📖lore-chat

[hard sigil]

I do hope they expand into different provinces later down the line 🤔

I'd love to see Chengdu eventually

Even Hunan province would be cool too, very mountainous though

[void flower]

Guys, how do I unlock the fate incense burner? I have no idea

[copper fiber]

what does the lvl give

[lavish rover]

Friends Channel

[copper fiber]

oh

ok thanks

[lavish rover]

Np

[tiny lark]

where does murong yuan go? does she dissapear from the map

also did she like, turn good or something i didn’t get the mission at all

[copper bough]

Looking For Mates or a Mate to Get Intimacy Up to MAx And level and farm together ect xD

Im Aussue so abd on PS5~ im GMT +10 hav4 Mic

[hearty hedge]

I'm the only feel this game actually some good story but because the lack translation a lot is hard to understand ?

[dusk stone]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-praying-skibidi-toilet-gif-6212637397548653112

i just got story about toilet god

i cant im gonna die from laughter

[hearty hedge]

I hope they add the option to have more than 1 character so i can like re-do the story and see if the experience is better idk

[dusk stone]

what can imagine in kaifeng there are lady who prays to toilet god

[hearty hedge]

did she died or managed to escape with others?

[last hound]

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[cold pendant]

||She escaped, we are going to Kaifeng to look for her/figure out where she is||

[hearty hedge]

no sure if i'm dumb but as new player the whole story is very confusing and hard to follow is because english translation or what?

[green wyvern]

The translation is not great yeah lots of missing context

[echo bronze]

Freakin kaifeng outskirt full of scammazzzz

[jaunty coyote]

Guys who’s Li Hua again

[green wyvern]

Every Chinese game I’ve played has one big city area that’s just full of scammers it’s a meme at this point

[cold pendant]

if you need help understanding the main story u can dm me, and ill try my best to help. u can also look at the pinned messages here and sometimes people will explain the lore

[hearty hedge]

Also i dont understand why the game doesnt give the option to review the dialogue of to stop from keep going

[cold pendant]

yeah that is something i dont really like, you could send feedback about that in the game, and maybe if enough people talk about it theyll change how it is

[warped spire]

i know nothing of lore

[ocean wren]

What do you mean?

You kill her, she's gone.

[hearty hedge]

@cold pendant could you explain about the blue bug we see multiples time at the start of the game ?

[sterile bramble]

What was the "Northern Campaign" that keeps being mentioned

[tiny lark]

But the dude you give the wooden bird to says he’ll get it to her no matter what

plus i imagine you can do the quest before the main quest, and she shows up there so

[ocean wren]

He doesn't know she's dead?

[indigo hazel]

i went to this place near the riverside bview boundary stone & went inside a cave full of aureate people & a chief - theres nothing else directing me here, but is this a lore-important place? the chief was talking about the aureate stationing people in qinghe and kaifeng before i murked them all

[vague shoal]

there's historical context behind that. Basically Northern China was in the hands of the Khitan, and the 1st emperor of Song tried his whole life to reclaim it

[tiny lark]

Seems a bit off that the other 2 who argued for the gold making vessel stay alive but mot her

[humble bay]

After Chapter 1, you get a letter in your ingame mail that’s from Wuque to Aunt Han. It confirms that Aunt Han is the water lady and she has been invited to Kaifeng. That’s why we are going to Kaifeng to find Aunt Han/Wuque

[orchid cobalt]

Can someone explain the side story with He Ran and the general? I'm confused

[tender badge]

He Ran delivered a package containing something that would convert the General into a Sleeping Puppet, which resulted in Jiang killing the General. But He Ran only saw the part where Jiang killed the General, thus blaming him for the General's death.

[orchid cobalt]

Ahhh

Where was the sleeping puppet part told? I must've missed it

And why did they do that to begin with

[tender badge]

Implied, because the General was said to die multiple times.

[orchid cobalt]

Ah

[steady leaf]

Twice

[hearty hedge]

Sad I deleted the mail

[orchid cobalt]

Did they give a reason to why they did that? Or who?

[tender badge]

I think the package was sent by (I forgot the name, basically the guy in the beginning with the white hair)

[steady leaf]

Emperor Ai controls those puppets

[orchid cobalt]

O

[steady leaf]

Sephiroth

[tender badge]

I knew it, it was him all along

[steady leaf]

Did Sephiroth do this?

Jk, it was emperor Ai

[steady leaf]

You also see him at the mission where you fight void king

[hazy girder]

Where winds meet mobile will not release on mobile in next month. People who posted fake email images on twitter, they should stop.

I asked them yesterday.. here is the reply from officials

[glacial crag]

A'ran > ruby ..just saying

[paper rampart]

It showed in the cutscene when you were a baby. It showed when you fought a crazy horse boss.

[orchid cobalt]

Icic

[vague shoal]

and in gleaming abyss questline

[zealous spire]

asdasd

[obtuse ferry]

How old is our Mc btw? It was said s/he left home or whatever when s/he was 16 but how much time has passed since then?

[vague shoal]

During the kaifeng questline probably 1 2 months

[obtuse ferry]

Dang...it is just weird to see others play him as an old dude with the young voice and the fact he is just 16 😭

It is funny tho

[vague shoal]

Yeah, the character is even older than uncle jiang and aunt han lol

[tepid anchor]

HI! I dmed you cause I can't keep up with what the main story really is telling.

[vague shoal]

which part do you find hard to follow right now?

[tepid anchor]

Basically Kaifeng journey. After Ruby died and Aunt Han saved us. I don't know why we went to Kaifeng and what is the purpose. All I know is that we are looking for Aunt Han. But why? All blurry to me. Story is great, it's just hard to follow. Maybe the English translation ain't that good.

[vague shoal]

In your mail there's a letter sent to Aunt han from a guy named Wuque

that's where u find out that Aunt Han has been in contact with him, and he's the only clue you have to look for aunt Han

hence the MC set off to Kaifeng to search for this guy

[vague shoal]

try to check your mail if u can find the letter

[quiet wigeon]

Basically what KAM said, but as to why we're looking for aunt Han is because she's missing. I do think that part is tad weird. We see in the scene we're rescued by auntie and then it immediately skips to us on the graveyard.

Also the whole village believes that the MC is dead, and MC is hiding their identity for their own safety (finally the protagonist does the sensible thing), so he/she can't stay in Qinghe anyway.

[mint pivot]

#💬gacha-and-fashion-talk message

[marsh geyser]

tysm!

[lament grotto]

Its the stress getting to them, early gray hairs

[upbeat estuary]

Well damn, I shouldn’t have read that first sentence 😂

[tender rampart]

Does anyone know how to unlink your account?

[uncut fractal]

It starts in the winery with a big cauldron in the middle
You'll trigger the encounter: Her Legacy after picking up an object there

[lone lark]

Bro I am reading the dialogues and I am lost on the story

[empty goblet]

Lore

[dire acorn]

whats the name of the scholar who we go with to return the eyes to the moon goddess?

[dire acorn]

what part?

[exotic sentinel]

in cn with a quest npc who is also a friendbale npc dies before you friend them, how do they friend them afterwords?

[frank granite]

Girl delete this rn it doesnt go here it goes in #1425508678219468811 the game just came out

[lone lark]

Everything from the beginning like what is going on I am at the part where I defeat heartseeker

[feral spade]

Your cultivation is too low therefore you cannot comprehend the world around you.

On the full note from start to Heartseeker:

[lone lark]

LOL facts

[feral spade]

||You are the baby Uncle Jiang brought to Qinghe to hide away.||

||You eventually got adopted by Aunt Han when he went somewhere for long time.||

||timeskip. You are now 16 years old. You are going to a small festival in General's Shrine with Ruby. Some guy robbed you of your jade pedant.|| ||You're not overly worried about losing it though.||

||After the tourney, you end up going to Heaven's pier. Where everyone is getting ready to celebrate the Drunken Immortal.||

||You go to Blissful retreat where your home is. Your aunt is mad that you're late.|| ||You serve some wine to very beautiful fairy, so beautiful she wrecked your heart.||

||You eventually do some chores, and spiral off into getting more jar for Aunt Han. Cue Pottery visit.||

||You meet Di Yao. He ask you to take him to Blissful retreat. You jebaited him.||

||The jebaiting doesn't last very long, you end up being saved by him when the mysterious gang appears to shoot you with arrows.||

||You evasdrop on Aunt and Yi Dao talking.||

||You decide to go investigate the mystery basement behind the clinic.||

||You read too many manuals and underwent a qi deviation which meant confronting a heart demon who happened to take on the form of that very beautiful fairy.||

I HOPE i got the timeline correctly. Been a hot minute.

Do not bother asking about ||Faceless||, ||Aunt Han being Water Lady||, ||What is the mysterious gang||, or ||why your uncle is gone|| as these are way later.

Your burning questions will be answered, baby cultivator.

[lone lark]

Oh those were mainly the questions I had LOL

But thanks!

[feral spade]

Yeah there's no point in asking these questions because they're spoilers.

Treat C1 as "wtf is going on" and C2 as "I got some answers but now more questions."

[dire acorn]

theres another storyline more to do with the world than the mc that you shouldnt miss out on

[lone lark]

which one? Is that chapter 2 storyline?

[vague shoal]

sthing Tian, he's at the back of evercare clinic, yaoyao mentions his name too

[feral spade]

Unfated Tian. He's not a scholar. He's a doctor.

[lone lark]

Also are the lost chapters related to the storyline in anyway I don't see how they connect

[feral spade]

They are world building.

They mainly offer insights on some aspect of the world, or give you an idea of the bigger picture.

[vague shoal]

there are a lot of clues u can easily miss during those lost chapters, you have to collect them all and piece everything together, then they will make sense

[feral spade]

I LOVE DARK SURGES

I LOVE DARK SURGES

[dire acorn]

Is he Tian Qi, Tian Yings lil bro?

[lone lark]

Oh god

[feral spade]

SUCH A FUN AND ENGAGING MECHANIC

THIS IS NOT SARCASM.

(It is sarcasm)

[lone lark]

Wait which one is this?

[feral spade]

No idea. I wouldn't relate them considering yeah.

[vague shoal]

in the menu section, dark surges usually recap all the clues u found

[feral spade]

Dark surges are non-mainstory of Lost Chapters. They are usually completely unpredictable in acquiring method, sometimes entirely missable, and very possibly to never complete it.

[dire acorn]

no, its a Qinghe story. The connected story of the Jianghu legacy basically, telling Tian Yings story. Tian Yings story is more interesting than mcs so far

[feral spade]

It is literal game of Easter egg except the eggs are freaking riddles.

[lone lark]

HUH???

Holymoly I am cooked

[feral spade]

Yeah don't spoil that yet. @dire acorn

[dire acorn]

these things, the comments usually have clues towards them

[feral spade]

I will have to inform you that this isn't spoiler.

[dire acorn]

I wasnt going to, I want people to discover the lore for themself

[proud crater]

why is unfated tian unfated

[feral spade]

Who knows...

Anyways I fade

[dire acorn]

maybe he has no fate? maybe his fate shouldve ended a long time ago? i wonder

[lone lark]

I need the spoilers in my dm

[dire acorn]

strongly recommend searching for Tian Yings story if you (like me) didnt understand + skipped through Jianghu legacy and other quests

[lone lark]

Will do

[vague shoal]

Tian ying is the mc of qinghe. What happened between Lunar goddess and him was particularly unfortunate

[dire acorn]

Tian Yings been through it for sure

[paper rampart]

We will be tianying Tian Ying for his dark lore, won’t we? Pun intended.

[tawny hull]

You guys think we will see any Romance of the 3 Kingdom references? Seeing how it took place around the same time

[fickle bolt]

Why are we fighting Tian Ying? He seems like a good guy...

And our character should know it too at that point?

[vague shoal]

3 kingdoms happened a while ago, this game is set in the beginning of song dynasty so i doubt it

[bitter solstice]

Yet some 800 years ago lmao

[tender badge]

wait... is Li zhenzhen from the wraith village????

[paper rampart]

Because he caused 17 and general wang current situation

[fickle bolt]

Wdym caused, I thought 17 was an unlucky accident (he was told by the emperor that he'd be back when 17 smiths 10k swords, and then just aureates attacked), and wang qing - that happened due to Du Chongwei betrayal?

How was Tian Ying a cause of any of these?

[paper rampart]

If tian ying didn’t give half orb to 17 and general wang respectively, we wouldn’t fight tian ying.

[fickle bolt]

Oh

[fickle bolt]

You mean general Ye

[paper rampart]

My bad. The general from bodhi sea

[fickle bolt]

But why can't we be friends with him

[paper rampart]

Set during a period in a song dynasty, being friends 朋友, 朋 means they must share common point(月）.

Actually now you mentioned it, I need to read tian ying lore again.

[mystic drum]

Because Tiang Ying wants you to kill kim

[paper rampart]

Maybe it’s the same reason why we had to fight dao lord.

[mystic drum]

||It's a staged execution, he fakes his death and then goes away in peace||

I'll link a video hold on

[paper rampart]

Oh right.. that’s how he is li zhen zhen now

[fickle bolt]

Wut, li zhenzhen was the moon goddess, his girlfriend

[mystic drum]

No link posts allowed rip

[fickle bolt]

DM me the link

I love me some Tian Ying lore

[paper rampart]

Sorry i meant he took up his gf surname.

||In the major cutscene on the Buddha statue, the statue collapses and Tian Ying sinks into the water—presumed dead. Yet moments before he disappears, he smiles.

Later, the protagonist receives a key leading to a small house on the Buddha Light Peak. There, the truth is revealed:

Tian Ying is still alive.

He was the one who spread rumors about his return to lure the masked faction. He has adopted a new identity, now under the surname Li—perhaps in memory of Li Zhenzhen.

He is currently serving as an official
on his way to the Liao Empire.

His mission continues.

||

[fickle bolt]

Oh, ok

[timber nebula]

bro 😭 i just got a grass turtle and my first thought is, the red heroine would love this

[tawny hull]

ahh damn i was asking because one of the quest mentioned the Shu Kingdom and it immedietely came to mind so I had to check what time period or dynasty it took place. Would like to see a Guan Yu (God of War avatar) boss fight or something

[onyx mulch]

does this have a fandom now

[quiet wigeon]

there are many references to three kingdoms. There's mention of someone being praised and said to be as smart as Zhuge Liang etc. Which I think makes sense. In the setting of the game 3 Kingdom era would be a legend/myth. This takes place roughly 800 years after

[mellow horizon]

from where do I know this explanation

[tawny hull]

Seeing how the CN folks are going towards the fantasy side of the game, I can only hope we would see the legends and myths in the future. The mythology for the Chinese is so rich and has so many things going

[quiet wigeon]

tho to be fair if they really want to they absolutely can add Guan Yu as a boss fight. Tian Ying fight involves Asura manifestation after all.

[paper rampart]

Reddit.
Google tian ying lore reddit

[tawny hull]

https://tenor.com/view/smite-guan-yu-warrior-moba-gif-18108635498640802363

[mellow horizon]

All good, I was just joking cuz it was my post

[quiet wigeon]

you're joking. It was you.. Senior brother. *kowtows

[mellow horizon]

[paper rampart]

Gotta take the joke to the next level. We need more pranksters in mortal sect 🤣

[mellow horizon]

I need to fullfill my job

[tender badge]

is li zhongdui the (idk the term it starts with a P and is the guy wearing the purple robe) of Kaifeng?

[civic sail]

so guys I don't understand why they steal the pot?

just they roleplaying?

[bronze raven]

it can supposedly make money

[mellow horizon]

Infinite money glitch

[feral spade]

We need a 9 mortal sect sticker named "scammed" somewhere.

[mellow horizon]

#1435338461925081220 (I agree)

[boreal spire]

Can someone spolier to me the actual movies of Murong Yan? I finished the whole quest but still don't get it.

[feral spade]

Generals are split among themselves instead of being united under a banner. Some loyal. Some not. And some become rulers.

Murong Yan is just a prisoner to one of four fate.

At least that the gist i got

[severe apex]

Wait…. aunt han was Qingye?

[rigid edge]

no, I read apparently qianye is apparenly han's sister or something but that hasn't been a plot point in the english version yet

dont know if it's true, just something people said

[severe apex]

Reddit said Qingye is a man?

[rigid edge]

lol idk

that sounds like a bad translation to me

like a chinese gender neutral term for sibling that got machine translated to brother or something

[severe apex]

Zheng E’s story is pretty sad tho ngl

[empty rampart]

There is a Shu 'kingdom' in the time period the game's set in. It's not the same 'kingdom' as that from the Three Kingdom period.

This Shu kingdom exists between 907-925 and 934-965. Its capital is nowadays Chengdu

[rigid edge]

did anyone else get a weird issue in the latest story chapter, there was a part where I walked up to the next event and there was like a glitched out cutscene, after the part where you were staying at that poor old lady's house, after that I went to a place and there was like an atcual blank shot of nothing happening for 10+ seconds and then a dialogue choice box popped up where I got to choose between "Ever Normal Granary" and one of the other locations, I picked the granary option, and then it went to the part where we start investigating lord shi. It was really weird, felt like an entire cutscene or section of the story got skipped. Wish I had recorded it.

also wanted to know, in the part where you're following the nine mortal ways instructions to meet the ferryman, at the end whre you yoink the scroll, I didn't pay attention to the "people can see you" icon at the bottom and got immediately caught and put into a chase sequence with the guards and then sent to hide out in the slums. Does that go any differently if you don't get caught using celestial sieze on the scroll?

[timber nebula]

Who would win great sage former shell or the heroes of jianghu 🤔

[keen dust]

looks like a translation error, its very common with Chinese and Korean mostly. On another game i play some female characters are translated as "He" purely due to translation errors and doesnt match the official characterization

[lament grotto]

Even if its not a sect order i go into scholars heart and just spam wrong answers just to mess with people 😭

The fact that so many people follow my answer is hilarious

[rare gale]

||Not error at all. It is highly discussed in China community when it came out too|| Spoiler Alert

[lament grotto]

I still havent found out how to send fake red envelopes but im gonna be so insufferable

[bronze raven]

there's no gender neutral term for sibling—its all based on gender and birth order

[rare gale]

her younger brother couldn’t be trained like Aunt Han, he was eventually taken to the research institute.

But there is no confirmation for that relationship yet.
Since Qianye Phase 2 have guy armature in some people vision.

[bronze raven]

considering water lady's ability, it would not be too far off the mark for qianye to be aunt han's former younger brother. it seems like their dad sold them somewhere during their youth and inbetween, somethings happenned.

[vague shoal]

Murong Yuan's first father was a general of the old dynasty, called later Zhou whose throne was usurped by the current emperor of the Song dynasty. So basically she thought her adoptive dad, general murong volunteered to kill her 1st father when he rebelled (i think she was also adopted then and murong adopted her again)because he refused to surrender to the Song Emperor, whereas the truth was that general murong tried to convince her father to bend the knee but he refused to. She didnt know that and took revenge on general murong, by locking him inside the ship and he went mad, after she knew the truth about this incident she then blamed the Song goverment and decided to join a conspiracy that involves destroying the boat, which is crucial for Song campaigns to unify china

[boreal spire]

Tq so much!

[placid iris]

I mean if she can change faces. It's not farfetched.

[placid iris]

No. I've learned chinese. Unlike korean, chinese language is very gender specific.

[placid iris]

I didn't encounter any bug at all during the main quest

[boreal peak]

Has anyone found the Immortality charm?

[astral kayak]

doesnt change her being bad asf

[astral kayak]

<@&1231156582469865522> ^

[grave dirge]

thanks

[scarlet meadow]

Is there a lore reason why all the kids are annoying asf?

[hushed zinc]

ss

[green wyvern]

This game has a guy call a spear a gun the translation is…….

[rain notch]

i swear i almost use taichi to throw that one kid off cliff because he faked his kidnapped and then get caught by bandit

[scarlet meadow]

Death by cliff would be too generous

[orchid inlet]

Definitely to generous

[mortal pewter]

killer blade is a fraud people in aunt han's bar was talking about how he cut mountains in half but when i saw him he was struggling against NPCs

[thorny timber]

Tbh they're better than today's brainrotten and screen-glued kids

[rain notch]

He does indeed got nerf. Try fight the dream version of him

[stoic knoll]

Who is the eight talents

[oak basin]

nice

[paper rampart]

kids back in song dynasty know sufferings and they annoying levels are not the worst. i tell you this generation we are right now, is the worst ever created.

imagine hearing 67 67 67 the moment you step out of your house.

[remote shuttle]

wuxia titles are often exaggerated, u see titles like heaven splitter demon then its just sum random guy from a random noname place

[zinc epoch]

Literally any gorge will have the lore of like oh yeah this super strong guy dropped his sword and it split the entire earth in two and now we have to build a bridge

Guy will sneeze once in a wuxia novel and a few years later he'll be called Heavenly Gust and they'll say that when it rains it's the leftover residue from that one sneeze

[remote shuttle]

LMAO ACCURATE

[random owl]

the MC's name is Tian Ying?

[surreal fox]

no, that's a boss. mc's surname and real parents are unknown atm

[random owl]

we playing as the MC right? not the baby he was carrying at the start(i kinda forgot what all happened alrdy)

[surreal fox]

the baby is the mc

[random owl]

so there was a timeskip and the character we created was the baby?

[remote shuttle]

yeah

[surreal fox]

yup, and our uncle jiang wulang/yan is the one that adopted us

[remote shuttle]

unc jiang the goat

[random owl]

where did the guy go( the guy at the start) he was attacked by the dude in black right?

[lusty idol]

The one we forgot about after 10 minutes 😭

[random owl]

yo what happened to him??? i gotta know or else i wont be able to sleep

[lusty idol]

We dont really know, it all starts with us trying to find out what happens to him, but here is a long way there

[random owl]

u cute tho, wana do some coop together?

[mellow horizon]

please use #🔍looking-for-coop-pvp

[shut moat]

has anyone finished the god of killing quest?

[frank granite]

They were asking one specific person.

[mellow horizon]

That doesn't really matter, cuz every kind of coop-asking is better suited in #🔍looking-for-coop-pvp
That was also meant as an friendly-reminder in case he is currently mainly searching for ppl to play with

[zinc epoch]

Is there a chat for finding a wife? (In game, obvs)

[frank granite]

Lol ok

[rapid knot]

I guess it's "looking for coop" channel to find partnership

[fallen stump]

Hi, I made a new 5 min video on YouTube called

Where Winds Meet Lore - The Untold Story Behind “Blind to The World” Quest

Key points:

1. ⁠How this quest is connected to the Dream Puppet in the main story
2. ⁠What role did Li Zhenzhen play in key historical events
3. ⁠How Tian Ying reacted to all of these

if you can’t be bothered to read all the texts, this short video might help you.

[timber nebula]

Send link!

[mellow horizon]

Please do it via dm or #📺media

[lusty forge]

Are there any good videos summarizing the first part of the game? I'm so confused with this game cause it feels as if there's a ton lore they assume you know

I just got to the second main area and the story for it feels a bit more together

[dark basin]

looking for that too

[zealous spire]

Huh

[lusty forge]

No looking for in game wife's/relationships in the discord

Rule 10

[languid dew]

RIP RUBY

[brave atlas]

Yes

[languid dew]

Kaifeng so far is great I actually watched the full cinematic when you get to the city

[brave atlas]

Real

[flint knoll]

Anyone read the old lore books?

[rapid berry]

Wait... do I understand right? If I do the main story and haven't unlocked certain lore in the bright tide/Dark surge thing, I'll be forever locked out of those?

[quiet wigeon]

No. Not that I know of. Main story is pretty linear

[rapid berry]

Just reading the comments on the not-yet-unlocked dark surge objectives and people keep saying that i'll lock myself out of certain parts if I complete the Qinghe storyline o.O

[quiet wigeon]

The only "missable" stuffs are the very early things around the aunt's inn. If you really want to you probably want to do stuffs there.

[rapid berry]

Yeah I unlocked only 1 dots from the 9 of the 1st two collections 😩

[quiet wigeon]

if I'm being honest it's really not a big deal. Are you aiming for full total completion?

[rapid berry]

Well, yeah, I'm curious and I mainly play this game for the story

[humble bay]

You can still get it from joining a coop world that hasn’t completed ch1 and talking to the npc

[tender badge]

is the guy in black in the beginning unc jiang?

[quiet wigeon]

what specific npc is this and how does it affect the main story?

[rapid berry]

ok... will try that. So frustrating!

[humble bay]

Zhang Dazhuang at heaven’s pier brewery. It just unlocks one of the dark surge fragments about tian ying if you want more lore. No effect on main story

[quiet wigeon]

aah I see. Thanks for the info

it seems that heaven's pier has tons of missable stuffs. I missed the dog card game as well

[humble bay]

You can still do that in the dream world

[green wyvern]

Making content hard to get just because you did the main story is stupid as hell

[agile mist]

The Crimson Vow outfit has verses from Shui Diao Ge Tou written on it, if anyone was wondering what the writing was. It's a Song Dynasty poem.

[weary marlin]

The wwm story has a lot of similarities with Mgsv funnily enough, tian yian is venom snake. Was also hard on myself to dig through translations to get a truer understanding of this great game

[sullen umbra]

why does the side quests has to keep emotionally scar me ??

[opaque bear]

No

Ok

I don know

[uncut fractal]

I thought so too, his eyes were similar to him

[lament grotto]

Coming back to your adopted niece YEARS after you left her with her aunt only to come back and rob her is some diabolical work

[urban shuttle]

can anyone point me towards where the house that || zheng e wants us to leave the letter in|| is at please

[gusty badge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[quiet wigeon]

I think it's for lore reason if anything and honestly appreciate them going the extra miles to make things sensible. it's not like you'll miss an epic reward if you missed those. If you're trying for full completion I believe that section is the only thing you'll ever miss, due to.. certain things happening in the story

[nimble cedar]

is the part where the imperial officers get beat up by chickens in Kaifeng historically accurate?

[torpid oracle]

./

[nimble saddle]

Apricot Village, has a tree outside it.

[woven turtle]

Ik she gone but like fr fr Older teen Ruby with rope Dagger and Cooler persona despite losing everything would be sick imoi

[dim turtle]

seeing lots of questions here about the origins of the mc and chapter 1

watch "What Actually Happened in Qinghe? - Where Winds Meet Full Story Breakdown 🌟Spoilers🌟" on youtube if you've finished the halo peak / chapter 1 story, VERY good video

[civic vessel]

has anyone done the "The man in the well" Encounter quest yet? It left me hanging who actually is Li Wa😭

[dim turtle]

This is an actual scam, BTW - mods will delete when they see it

[ebon sundial]

curious how the scam works tho

[astral kayak]

||So the man in the well lied about everything he's actually a criminal who wanted to kill you and replace you which is why he took your clothes and talked about if you cane from a rich upbringing the dead guy you find at the end is actually the hoodlum who you fought off that was killed by "li wa" and left there to make you think it was him||

[wide sandal]

Is this game going to have gallery for player to watch cutscenes?

[covert turtle]

I forgor where but i read that CN has it, the global ver just gatekeeping it, idk why

[wide sandal]

gatekeeping from the lore, I'm dead want to watch master of grain cutscenes again

[covert turtle]

Yeah lol, i wanted to see the last chapter 1 cutscene again

[wide sandal]

I hope they add heart threat feature soon, So i can get hurt again

[vague shoal]

is there a follow up to this story?

[astral kayak]

no but you can find him loitering around heavens pier

[wet lark]

wondering if there's any main story lore recap somewhere like including spoilers til cn ver? feel like I'm getting edged everytime I finish the main story cuz I'm sooo curious

[half urchin]

Where do we find that out? Is there another quest later?

[vague shoal]

Doesn't he want to kill us? why is he loitering around our home turf

[astral kayak]

your home turf is blissful retreat not heavens pier hes probably hanging around it cause its either were hes actually from or where the guy he killed is from

[astral kayak]

i mean you just kinda find this out by playing the quest they make it pretty obvious imo

[vague shoal]

Oh since he already killed the hoodlum to steal an identity there was no need to kill us?

Which means he could change faces

[half urchin]

I mean i figured he wasn't sho he said. But the part about him wanting to kill MC wasn't really clear?

[astral kayak]

he killed the hoodlum thinking it was you when you talk to him after beating him up hes trying to remember the code he overheard you talking to li wa aboutt. he also mentions a little brother which is the one that distracts you while the hoodlum is trying to steal from/ get a look at li wa

the little kid talks about his big brother which is the one who gets killed

[astral kayak]

you're suppose to figure it out by him being interested about the fact that you seem wealthy and him suddenly wanting to meet you when your clothes fits him

[vague shoal]

oh wow there was a lot going on in that quest, I must have been dumb to miss all that

dumb like the young master

[craggy timber]

Do you have the link for the video? I can’t find it when I search

[hot pike]

Sent in DMs

[dusky smelt]

is the white lady in the witch fight the real face of witch or who is that white lady

[wintry pivot]

i thought aunt han and the witch were completely different people ??? like weren’t they talking to each other in aunt hans shop ?

[craggy timber]

Ty!

[dusky smelt]

that drunk girl was witch?

[wintry pivot]

that’s what i thought but on tiktok everyone keeps calling her aunt han

[dusky smelt]

i forgot she existed now that u reminded me , im all confused

[wintry pivot]

we are in kaifeng to look for aunt han aren’t we ?

[dusky smelt]

i have 0 idea lmao i am still in qinghe after fighting the witch at the end i havent progressed

[hot pike]

I think people r confused because of the boss looking like aunt Han

[dusky smelt]

coz she put in the face of someone you know right? but in phase 2there are 2 of em a white one and ur aunt han

[dusky smelt]

also isnt aunt han the one who pull us back from explosion in last act , why she gone to kaifeng without saying a word

[hot pike]

I’m not sure bc my memory is hazy but I’m pretty sure someone told us to look for a guy ( the young master ahh looking guy inside the money chamber)

[gray pasture]

does the mc eventually become recognized in the jianghu so all our drip looking like a wuxia overlord starts making sense

[wintry pivot]

ah okay i thought i was just stupid for thinking they weren’t the same person

[hot pike]

I assume TikTok players didn’t notice that because even I didn’t

[dusky smelt]

you become so powerful ur hand sweep killings 10000 true immortals

[wintry pivot]

in one of the side quests in keifeng we ask where aunt han is and do a quest specially for her but we don’t see her

[hot pike]

I assume the whole exploration thing for flight increases our recognition in the area lore wise

[dusky smelt]

i see , i m still confused to witch's identity 🤣

[hot pike]

In the quest for the umbrella talent there’s a list that has aunt hans name on it (people r looking for her and her group?) and we burn the list so that they aren’t found

[dusky smelt]

but i guess thats the future story they have yet to uncover like the past of aunt han and yi dao

[gray pasture]

yeah but it would also be cool to see it actually reflect in the story and not just a headcanon

[wintry pivot]

all i know is she’s a hottie who came to visit aunt han

[dusky smelt]

aunt han is hotter

[wintry pivot]

that’s the exact reason why i haven’t been dressing fancy and been trying to kinda blend in with npcs and in the dialogue we say we come from a poor family

[wintry pivot]

i love them both x

[dusky smelt]

i try to look as menace as i can with shabby and dark clothes with mask

[wintry pivot]

i’m saving my drippy clothes for when we progress more in the story it just doesn’t make sense to me right now

[dusky smelt]

true torture chamber drip

[dusky smelt]

no free outfit looks as drippy so im always the same 🤣

[wintry pivot]

can u send me a pic i love seeing peoples characters and outfits 🥰

[gray pasture]

yeah same, i'm just rocking the qinghe exploration reward + some straw hat

[dusky smelt]

aunt han with open hairs solos

[dusky smelt]

i cant send imgs here lmao

[wintry pivot]

i can dm you mine i’m wearing a paid outfit but i dyed it to make it look like an npc outfit

[wintry pivot]

my dms are open lad

[wintry pivot]

ah okie

[dusky smelt]

still mine looks pretty damn same to preset lmao

i tried making jin mu won from legend of northern blade and fumbled 😂

[hot pike]

I assume since it’s Wuxia areas don’t have ways of communicating with each other/no migration of people so juss because we r known in one area it doesn’t mean everywhere will have heard of us

[thorny timber]

Question for midnight blades sect lore: the point is to kill 'sinners' aka people who have lots of negative karma. And seeing that there are a few NPC sect members in public, I take that to mean they refrain from killing people with positive karma? Other wise, they would be a very wanted sect yeah?

[hot pike]

My plan is wear the aunt han boss fit with sectless hat

It looks drippy

[hot pike]

I can send mine if u want

[gray pasture]

well no, I'm pretty sure in most wuxia stories, notable individuals from the jianghu become recognized in the world even if it's just by name

[wintry pivot]

yes !!

[gray pasture]

usually by name by common folk, but gets recognized by fellow martial artists esp when they see their prowess

[green wyvern]

Tiktok is dumb

[dusky smelt]

show the outfit? i dont think i have seen that outfit?

[hot pike]

Done

[hot pike]

There’s not really any lore videos

For this game

And people juss fight the stuff instead of paying attention

[thorny timber]

not yet anyway. most of the story isnt even out

[hot pike]

100%

[wintry pivot]

i would EAT up lore videos

only content i’ve been able to find on this game is people doing guides on builds

[hot pike]

I’ve only seen the what actually happened in qinhe video

[atomic violet]

on the lore, is it better to kill this person?

[wintry pivot]

do u want to be evil or kind

[atomic violet]

[dusky smelt]

if the name is red , you always go kicking the shi out of em

[wintry pivot]

you decide his fate

[atomic violet]

thats the npcs name on towns

[dusky smelt]

[hot pike]

Ask that in #🌱beginner-questions this is lore chat

[dull seal]

my bad i thought i clicked on questions, misclick

[hot pike]

All good

[tardy yew]

[civic vessel]

omg what the heck. such a plot twist tysm!

[atomic violet]

they went red so we fight

[dusky smelt]

dont send cute giggle emoji after basically saying u killed civilians lmao

[buoyant mirage]

bro how do i kill the goose

[wintry pivot]

next time put in #🌱beginner-questions but you can throw them into the water with t’ai chi

[buoyant mirage]

aight ty mb

[atomic violet]

I was just running around with me horse

lore accurate jianghu, people are so easy to anger

[wintry pivot]

no problem king 🌹

[dusky smelt]

🤣

Log out and log back in to reset aggression

[grand fable]

Qianye is a face changing witch, she makes herself look like someone dear to her enemies.

[charred dawn]

Major spoiler || why wasn't Ruby in that after life place, was she a bad person or smth ||

[ashen hull]

omg you just answered my questions. I knew it wasn't aunt Han but I was so mind confuzzled about it lol Thank you!

[atomic violet]

its not afterlife

game is wuxia, havent touched xianxia

they are just mortals who are playing fantasies

its just an underground market

[placid iris]

Where can you find him? Heaven's Pier? I wanna check him out

[spring pagoda]

#1425508678219468811 is ghost market and capturing the triplets the final quest so far? 0.0

[charred dawn]

Tf r u talking about😭

[placid iris]

We literally encountered ghosts when visiting the market in the morning lmao

[atomic violet]

that channel is for cn

[atomic violet]

they are not ghost... but jianghu unorthodox/cults

craezy persons

[placid iris]

... They're ghosts...

[atomic violet]

their light techniques are so good though

[atomic violet]

is this your first time at wuxia?

[placid iris]

Nope I read a ton of wuxia and xianxia 🙂

[atomic violet]

yeah, the nether realm are for xianxia

devs strictly pointed out they would stick at wuxia

(although the recent survey on cn proved that people wanted xianxia)

there are lighness techniquest at wuxia that would make you look like and have the characteristics of ghosts

such as moving through shadows, blink, etc

[placid iris]

Bro we literally have to sneak around ghost soldiers, wear yin armor, and enter ghost gate. Idk what else to tell you

We are already inching toward xianxia with the whole immortality thing that the main villain has

[queen mica]

Because ||ruby is alive and well practicing cultivation somewhere||

[atomic violet]

formations

we encountered one back then

killed ruby

though I am not sure, ruby's corpse was never shown

could be a potential plot line in the future

it was just implied that she died, but we actually never saw her dying

at this point, I'm just waiting for more lore

[placid iris]

Bro it has nothing to do with formation. The game blatantly told us that we've to get the Yin Armor to hide our breath of the living so we won't be targeted by the ghost soldiers. Have you even played the quest?

[atomic violet]

yeah and you can return to that map later, people will tell you to wear your masks or they attack you

I wear it but I did not like it so I remove it

my MC is still fine

[placid iris]

Not mask. Armor. I'm talking about the other market in the morning.

The regular market just require you to wear the simple mask

[atomic violet]

thats xianxia though

[queen mica]

U have to wear a mask to use shops

[atomic violet]

the lore accurate right now is wuxia's formation masters

toaist formations

[placid iris]

But you're dead if you wander around without the Yin Armor in the morning market

[atomic violet]

yeah those are black market rules

[atomic violet]

yeah thats how formations works, they have their own rules

trust me, I would love if the game would turn to xianxia honestly

but devs keep pushing wuxia

[placid iris]

You're just being stubborn at this point. Seriously have you played that quest where you have to gather 3 pieces of armor at the underground market?

Just because it's wuxia doesn't mean it can't have ghosts and other metaphysical aspects bruh

[placid iris]

Oh and I forgot to add that at the end of that quest we've to kill a ghost. The game said that out loud and blatantly.

[obtuse root]

my canon is we are now in some lowest realm which is 99% wuxia and after a few decades of upgrades we'll have starry sky battles and galaxy forging

[old coral]

We got some supernatural stuff here and there with the bosses, so we totally got room for xianxia ascension and sword flying

Also I did the infernal twinblades skill theft recently, that was squarely supernatural, im certain

[placid iris]

Eh maybe not cultivation and ascension. However I do know that we'll get a chance to ride a robot bird at Mohist Hill.

[hot pike]

We have “ flying “ and cutting voids in space

If that isn’t supernatural idk what is

[old coral]

I mean yeah but wuxia vs xianxia is very different in scale, our characters are still within the realm of wandering martial arts heroes and not the more.... higher level depictions of cultivators where they can blow mountains - way more grandiose depictions exist

[placid iris]

I do agree that it's doubtful we'll go full xianxia. I just disagree that WWM has no metaphysical themes at all like ghosts etc.

[old coral]

you know that reminds me but I remember seeing a robot from one of the ladies who's part of the music playing minigame

🤔 makes you think what sort of tech could be out there

obv that's not common to the populace but I gotta wonder what sort of prodigy she was for her to make it lol

[placid iris]

They make Mohist people into some sort of crazy geniuses with their creations

[stable hedge]

Just did the jinming pool campaign anyone could tell wtf happened from inviting me to a buffet to like trynna kill me

[dusky smelt]

buffets are good spot to kill in wuxia

[stable hedge]

Man i was getting wasted and she pulled up with her eagle

[dusky smelt]

now you know why its perfect place to kill

🤣

[little slate]

i just got the true ending of qinghe, can someone tell me who ||lord li|| is? i remember hearing his name and now the big reveal is meant to be huge im gussing but what did he do???

[fathom eagle]

YUH

[mellow horizon]

#🌱beginner-questions

[edgy mountain]

Nvm, i found a very helpful reddit post summarizing the story of He ran.

[lyric kestrel]

bois, is the tian ying that we fight in halo peak the same tian that was with us during the moon goddess quest?

[stark panther]

There's "true" endings to regions???

[vague shoal]

li zou is the white haired guy who controls bugs that make people zombies

[normal heath]

Why story so sad, poor girl make me cry.

[alpine path]

No, this game has at least two major characters “Tian” one from the goddess quest (who walks with us) is “Unfated” and is an entirely separate character

[sullen gust]

dont wanna spoiler someone in the question channel, thats why i ask here about it, hope its fine

im currently doing the mercyheart town wandering tales "A Elixir Theft",|| i was already in the cave but somehow the Dad "Pan Fading" doesnt want to spawn at the House, what would be the consequence if i give the poison medince to the child instead of the dad? because what should i do, he is gone||

[carmine thunder]

anyone tryna play

[willow basin]

can someone tell me if it's possible to re-read the various notes we find? like, you can open to read it once and "archive" it, but i still haven't found a menu to go back and read through them again?

[alpine path]

It is somewhere in the compedium I think
But the exact location varies on the type of what we read,

[willow basin]

I figured it'd be somewhere in there, but it's a bit convoluted 😅 I did manage to find what I was looking for though, thanks! ♡

[thorny timber]

Is Yao Yaoyao a reincarnation of Sage of Medicine?

[wide wolf]

so chu and aunt han were like a thing or am i missing smth ??

[shell dust]

Can someone explain the jinming pool plot?

[deep valley]

Gee wiz

[keen rapids]

Not entirely sure what to say here when it comes to the Jinming Pool

[shell dust]

Why do we even fight the boss ? She sent us there to steal the diagarm they gave away

The whole campaign was a mess

Loots of bugs to, like platform throwing u off when u board the boat, her cutscene dialogue missing or talking stuff from before

[keen rapids]

Yeah, that was the plan. Reveal the ship’s plan, have us steal away the diagram so it wouldn’t fall into the hands of any other region or nation, then she tries to General Shepard us.

||Not sure why that last bit is necessary but she takes the ship down too with her||

[shell dust]

But why?

Why give diagrams in the first place, why destroy the ship

Also i dont play mass efect so i didnt understand the shepard reference

[keen rapids]

It isn’t Mass Effect I was referencing, it was OG Modern Warfare 2

[shell dust]

I dont play that either

[haughty hemlock]

So the guy at the start was us?

[keen rapids]

In OG Modern Warfare 2, General Shepard, the antagonist in that game, asks us to steal valuable intel from an estate. When we hand it to him, he betrays us by killing the character we’re playing as known as Roach and our ally Ghost. Basically she tried to do exactly what he did but failed ultimately

[wide wolf]

can someone sum up unfated tian story ?? i dont get it

[flint crag]

also, to add to that, how does the rest of the story tie to tian story? is the tian story part of the main or its a side story?

[vague shoal]

Murong Yuan's first father, Li Jun was a general of the old dynasty, called later Zhou whose throne was usurped by the current emperor of the Song dynasty. So basically she thought her adoptive dad, general murong volunteered to kill her 1st father for military achievements when he rebelled (Li Jun asked murong yanzhao to adopt her again after he cut ties with her) because he refused to surrender to the Song court, whereas the truth was that general murong tried to convince her father to bend the knee but he refused to. She didnt know that and took revenge on general murong, by locking him inside the ship but he already went mad from the guilt before she even locked him up. After she knew the truth about this incident from ember of the east and shimmer of the south, they manipulated her feelings of revenge towards the Song goverment and decided to join a conspiracy that involves destroying the boat, which is crucial for Song campaigns to unify china

She wouldnt attack us if we didnt find out about her plan to destroy the ship

[shell dust]

Thanks for clarifying but this is so poorly explained in the story, i know the bnner part whit her father but did it say aywhere its her father or that she was adopted i have no memory of it

[vague shoal]

There’s another encounter quest after the boss battle which explains it

[shell dust]

Why not just add it when u encounter the chained man, the peacing of the quest is bad and confusing

[vague shoal]

Devs want u to look for clues in general to piece together lore in this game, so it’s hard for people who arent into exploring

I cant find most of the clues too lol and had to ask people how to trigger the murong yuan encounter quest too

[surreal fox]

they take a dark souls type approach with the secondary story, where you're supposed to piece things together

[shell dust]

Yes but its bad design , put the breadcrumbs before the finale not make it confusing and then half a year later u find out a part of why this happened

[vague shoal]

It’s not exactly bad, sometimes it’s rewarding when u find things out by yourseld but i get your frustration

One thing i hate is that some encounter quests have hidden conditions to trigger and i have no idea what they are

Like the murong yuan one, u have to talk to a guy named li shoujie on a bridge for the quest to trigger later

It was a good quest though

[shell dust]

Yes but when its so disjointed makes it so manny ppl may never find it, loot of ppl are casuals, heck loot of ppl arent the smartest to put 2 and 2 together, it just makes it hard to follow, at least it could keep the main quest and campaigns easyer to follow, better translated and use encounters/ secondary quests to enrich the lore or experience

Like u said, the follow up could be easyer tp follow, like after the q where u loot the dead bird, u could find some letter or some lore piece from her , that would lead u to a follow up quest if ur interested to explain some things

[vague shoal]

Maybe there was sthing like that but i might have missed it. I was left with questions on why she betrayed us so i found out about the encounter quest after i asked a bit on discord. But yeah they should make it easier imo

[shell dust]

Or somr exposition during (boss cut scenes/into) the dialogue to make u know theres more to find out

[vague shoal]

Usually in this game when u wonder why, it means there’s lore behind it

[flint viper]

Can we romance granny turtle?

[elfin pond]

I was completely addicted to this game for about a week. I played the main story until meeting Ruby in Blissful Retreat (to tell her you're sneaking out), then cleared nearly all of Qinghe side activities. And then I finished up Chapter One... and I've been angry for days. I don't wanna put spoilers here so I used spoiler tags, but for anyone who doesn't wanna know let's say I'm really not a fan of a narrative decision they've made. 😭

||I think it's mainly because my character had become rather high level at that point (lvl 50 with all lightness skills and a bunch of different martial arts and mystic arts), yet was powerless to prevent Ruby's death. And didn't even try to heal her despite being a tier 2 healer. So it created a narrative dissonance. I'd basically become a local hero flying across Qinghe, but I couldn't jump up and catch one arrow. My character even got two chances. I'd expected something bad was going to happen at the end of the chapter, or at the very least things would change because Aunt Han was planning to escape with all the villagers. So I didn't want any Blissful Retreat / Heaven's Pier content related to the festival to get locked out.

The irony is I started off disliking Ruby. She was so chatty and disobedient. But through Chapter 1 she grew on me a lot. She basically started feeling like a little sister or a daughter. Who wouldn't start appreciating such a cheerful and kind-hearted girl. I defeated the scythe witch on pure rage. And then every encounter on the way to Kaifeng on lingering anger. And then I took a long break. But even when I came back I found that I couldn't get as immersed as before. Every little girl in the game reminds me of Ruby and I'm finding inner resistance getting emotionally attached to characters because my "mourning fictional characters" limit has been filled for this game. Losing both Ruby and my first martial comrade in one go. And they kind of narratively forced it.||

[flint viper]

Type shii

[placid iris]

@flint crag Unfated Tian or Ying Tian? For Ying Tian story I highly recommend watching YouTube explainer video.

[ember phoenix]

So what happened with new story the || freaking stabbing faceless girls ||?

Why they so violent?

[placid iris]

Yeah the issue is that WWM is primarily made for CN players who are very familiar with Chinese history. Like this one set during the five dynasties and ten kingdoms era. That's why they just don't explain much background information to players.

[placid iris]

Check journal for enemy details

[ember phoenix]

I'm scared to lol

[placid iris]

As you may have already noticed global players are sort of a secondary citizens rn. Maybe they think the game won't be that popular global so they fully design it with CN players in mind.

[placid iris]

I highly recommend collecting Dark Surges since it'll explain the motivation of various forces in WWM and make understanding the plot much easier. It's even better if you get some understanding about the real history of five dynasties and ten kingdoms.

[flint crag]

questions for future CN storyline. Is Tian still important to future plots?

[placid iris]

Which tian?

[flint crag]

Tian Ying

[vague shoal]

Tbf u cant use your in game power lvl to justify msq progression since it’s mostly gameplay wise, but yes i miss ruby too

[placid iris]

He's still alive. Iirc he's going to the north to infiltrate the Khitans. He just used us to pretend to be dead and changes his name.

[vague shoal]

I dont think he will show up in msq, his story already ended

[flint crag]

right, it sounds like his story with the MC is over if he doesn't show up in future content...

[placid iris]

At best he'll show up as side story again

[mellow horizon]

If the game should decide to visit the Liao Empire, then it's very likely that we will see him again

[flint crag]

still a pretty twisted storyline ngl; makes us feel kind of used

[little slate]

Yeah he's the leader of the southern tang i had to watch a lore video to get it lol

[placid iris]

Everyone is using us. Those girls from Velvet Shade are also using us.

[little slate]

Didn't pay attention to the start of the game I didnt think the lore would be good ngl

[placid iris]

Technically he's the last empeor of the original Tang dynasty. The current Tang is sorta a replacement where the emperor isn't even a member of Li bloodline lmao. Li Zuo is currently using the state as his puppet to dominate china again.

[mellow horizon]

The guy with white hair was actually the last emperor of the real Tang Dynasty back then

But he died quite early afaik

[placid iris]

Ye like many years ago. He's immortal that's why he's still alive

[placid iris]

If you play Gleaming Abyss you'll get a hint as to what happened to him

[mellow horizon]

Ye, I already played it

[little slate]

Ah thats right he like sipped back into southern tang when the guy declared that his state is now tang instead of what it was b4 right

[mellow horizon]

The next guy which we will meet soon will be the guy from the South Tang

Which we already saw in many trailer-videos

[little slate]

Oh the main leader?

[mellow horizon]

Ye, he is called Li Yu and was the South Tang "Lord"

He is very known for his poems in china

Some schools are even included his poem within the regular school-work

[little slate]

Yeah the lore video is watched went in depth about the irl lore b4 the game

[placid iris]

Wait which one? Have we actually seen him in trailers?

[mellow horizon]

Red Umbrella

[little slate]

With everything from the 5 dynasties and what not leading up to zhous song dynasty or something like that

[placid iris]

Oooooh the pretty boy. He's enemy?

[mellow horizon]

More or less

[placid iris]

If evil why hot?

[mellow horizon]

But you can see him as an villian

[little slate]

I must've missed that trailer

[mellow horizon]

He had afaik 2 wifes and he wasn't the smartest general back then

[placid iris]

In the launch trailer he showed up

[mellow horizon]

He killed his own general due to paranoia

and other lords played with him as an toy

[little slate]

Ohh i see, I literally saw none of the trailers for this game I only happened upon it like 4 days after launch bc a friend mentioned it in a throwaway comment

[mellow horizon]

the launch trailer is actually well done

but i was a bit shocked how early they decided to show Li Yu

This is Li Yu

[flint viper]

Fosh🐟

[wooden cedar]

does this lead to the tianying fight right away

or start the halo peakquest by itself?

[earnest rune]

No you want the blue book to it's right

[placid iris]

U mean green

Oh no i see it my bad

[flint crag]

umm does the game get more mystical? in some preview footage, we fight a dragon and a bull demon. that's kind of mystical to me

[earnest rune]

It's wuxia not xianxia

[flint crag]

right.. does dragon and bull demons still fall in category of wuxia

[earnest rune]

Yes young wanderer

[placid iris]

It does have fantastical element however as long as there's no cultivation aspect we can't call it xianxia

[wooden cedar]

so about the "secret" ending in qinghe, do I have to unlock everything in the dark surge or just do every jianghu legacy quest

[little slate]

Every dark surge

[wooden cedar]

damn

[little slate]

Then youll unlock the final cutscene

[carmine kettle]

Best we I described it is wuxia with some xianxia elements

[wooden cedar]

do they mostly come from the jianghu legacy quests

[little slate]

Trust me its worth it there's guides on yt showing all of them

Most come from talking to random npcs

But if you've been talking to everyone u encounter you should have most done

[wooden cedar]

lowkey just want to obtain them naturally but it seems theres a lot of hidden stuff lol

[little slate]

I only needed like 5 more after I started actually going for them

[little slate]

There's only 1 thats really hard to get without a guide imo

Its an encounte tied to eating food from market stalls

[placid iris]

I think you need to eat several kinds of food instead of a lot of food

[little slate]

Yeah its one of each food I think

Or multiple of each

[placid iris]

There also that one npc in Heaven's Pier who won't talk about ch 1 end.

[little slate]

I spammed a lot of a single one and got nothing, but u wanna eat at least 9? Or 10 of each food anyway to max out the elegance from them

True but I feel like if u were already talking to everyone you should've talked to him, but i think you can talk to his brother if u go back in time

Also ||yimo|| the kid can be impossible to talk to

He can get stuck listening to stories after tales of iron or wtv that quest with iron condor is

So youll have to join another world for that too

[placid iris]

No for me it's Zhang Dazhuang

Iirc

[little slate]

Yeah he can be impossible too but for me it was yimo

The kids wouldnt leave he was so annoying

Reset the zone and logged/relogged, changed time however many times but he was stuck sitting listening to stories forerver

[marble berry]

actually you can do ch1 dark surge after, without going into the dream or into someones game world

[plain mango]

Hi guys . do you have any advice for 100% areas? Most of mine around 40%

[fervent swallow]

AHHHHH... I JUST BEAT CHAPTER ONE AND WITHOUT SPOILERS... just.... AHHHHHH!!!!!!! 😭 😭 😭 😭

[lone lark]

Is || ruby really dead 😭 || or will there be a way to bring them back

[lone lark]

I getchu bro 😭

[fervent swallow]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[lone lark]

The pain in my heart will never be filled

[quartz saddle]

If you go to the docks in the house there is a zhang jiu something and he gives the dark surge

[quartz saddle]

Use her as companion assist

[elfin pond]

Yeaah. That was just a contributing factor. Mainly I dislike ||killing off two of the three characters you've gotten close to in the chapter||

[quartz saddle]

You dislike it, because you liked the characters

That’s why killing them is so impactful

[elfin pond]

No. I'm speaking from a fictional narrative-building perspective. IRL we love others despite the risk of losing them. But when it comes to fiction/entertainment, a narrative can "teach" the audience not to get emotionally invested.

[quartz saddle]

No it teaches what jianghu really is like

And that though it may seemed happy to lucky. There are too many evil

You can tell just from all the tian ying lore

What has bro been typing

[quartz saddle]

It is very late and I don’t want to give a proper response. But remember that not everyone has been reading murim wuxia everyday

[rotund zinc]

but that's kind of the reality in that age

I think instead of sell a hero tell, this game is trying to convey a sight of the actual histry, so as mc, we feel powerless sometime, I guess

I don't like it neither, I mean we're here to play the game as an escape of the reality, not to be reminded how cruel the reality is. but I understand what they tryna do

[quartz saddle]

I like it, and the dreamworld yi dao fight hits pretty hard

I wasn’t a big fan of ruby, but I love her companion assist

[vague shoal]

It’s one of the turbulent times in china too. China states power struggles and a horde kingdom invading you, so tragedies are gonna occur everywhere

[little slate]

Dude the music in the village was so sad

[little slate]

I loved her she was so cute

Little kid with big dreams

And the dream sequence in the red heroine encounter after the story was so sad

[little slate]

Have u unlocked every dark surge yet for the true ending

[elfin pond]

@rotund zinc @vague shoal Yeah, like I said I felt something big bad coming so I put it off. ||Was prepared to see the village I just spent a week getting to know to get decimated. Did not expect the 2 closest characters to die and the third to just up and vanish (presumably after saving you from the explosion in the wine cellar). It just hit too hard. And now I'm having a hard time connecting to the Chapter 2 characters because I feel like they're just gonna kill a bunch of them off again. I also haven't seen this dreamscape thing everyone's talking about.||

So the game just went from the most immersive game I've played in a long time to something I'm emotionally resisting connecting to. Anyway. Thanks for helping me vent. I'll just consider it part of the grieving process. 😛

[little slate]

To be fair the ||death of blade|| wasnt as tragic because of how peak it was, "death, ive already faced it!" Or wtv the quote was so cinema

The sharing drinks too

Also i cant believe the foreshadowing and symbolism of different areas is so good

[elfin pond]

Yeah, ||Yi Dao's death was a lot more tolerable. A comrade in arms falling in battle is within reason.||

[little slate]

LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN ||THE CAPE WE GAVE HER IS REASON SHE DIED, AND THE CAVE WE STASHED OUR HOPES AND DREAMS IS WHERE HER DREAMS CAME TRUE BUT ALSO ENDED||

Its so tragically peak I felt like crying 😭

[elfin pond]

||Not to mention we SAVED HER. We got her into the pavilion with everyone else and that stupid merchant put her in a straw basket because what better way to KEEP AN EYE ON SOMEONE than putting them out of sight?! And then Clip-Clop saved her but it still wasn't enough to truly save her. It was just such a "forced writing" way of doing it.||

[little slate]

I dont even think its forced tbh

||That cave is the cave where we stashed all of our wine to sell so we can go live in the jianghu together, so it makes sense that she'd find a way no matter what to make that dream come true, she risked everything to be a heroine|| 😭

[vague shoal]

you need to touch yidao's sword in front of the tower being reconstructed in blissful retreat to activate the dreamland, and ahve you done the her legacy encounter quest?

[little slate]

It was foreshadowed perfectly with the cape and everything too

Its all just too sad 😭

The red heroine encounter really makes it hit harder tho

[elfin pond]

Thanks. I'll go look there next time I play. Which will be at least a couple of days. Might help or might hurt my desire to keep playing. I pushed through and did the start of Chapter 2 ||Until where you have to go to the Ghost quarter (where I've already been once on a quest from Qinghe, got abducted by human trafficker IIRC) and end up hiding out at Granny Turtle's place. But because the story progressed so far without reconnecting with Aunt Han I just decided to quit for a couple days. I even friggen had to pawn off the last bottle of Parting Tears and I probably won't get it back...||

[vague shoal]

I think we wont be seeing her anytime soon, from what people who played the CN version said

[little slate]

Apparently we dont see aunt han for a long long time

Yeah even in cn she's only hinted at being seen in the latest area

Something like that

[vague shoal]

We're making new friends now

[little slate]

I want ||ruby and blade|| back 😭

[mint spade]

Who cares about Aunt Han, she could be an old hag for all we know

[little slate]

Or tian ying after learning his story

[mint spade]

Doctor Tian's diary is a real cosmetic surgery horror story

[little slate]

Makes me wanna join the inkboumd order just because of tian, but uncle jiang was well of heaven so im torn between the two

[mint spade]

Well of heaven is funnier and available. Just join them and have fun spreading money around until Inkbound gets released

[vague shoal]

inkbound is gonna be a long time away, they arent even released in CN right? And it seems they use bow as main weapon so we might get archer martial art too

[mint spade]

Though Jiang being a well of heaven is kinda funny, when you look at how comic relief the sect members are

[little slate]

Oh cooll

Ill finish the sectless stuff then yeah im joining well of heaven again

I want my character to be righteous this game

[surreal fox]

well of heaven chat's pretty cool. super active and funny

[mint spade]

There's no real evil sects to join in this game

Even the bloodthirsty dual sword sect is just farming karma instead of really going around mass murdering

[vague shoal]

hollow vale seems pretty evil

[surreal fox]

nah they're just poisoned up druggies

the one group we meet from them are traitors or a splinter group iirc?

[fallen stump]

For anyone who wonders what's with Jiang Yan's Father Slaying reputation, I made a new video on yt called

[vague shoal]

dont they experiment on real humans too, that's pretty evil in my book lol

[fallen stump]

Where Winds Meet Lore - Did Jiang Yan Kill His Father? Qinghe Story Deep Dive

[vague shoal]

Ohhh

[fallen stump]

Happy to DM the link

[little slate]

The encounter after the main qinghe story explained it pretty well to me, what else do u add? Genuinely asking

[vague shoal]

a lot of people don't know what was inside the box

[fallen stump]

A lot of historical backgrounds, all in 5 mins

[little slate]

It was a ||puppet beetle|| right?

Like with void king

[vague shoal]

yeah, but many missed that including me lol

[little slate]

Ohh ok

[fallen stump]

Like who Wang Qing is and why do these all fit in the grand scheme of things

[little slate]

I only really got it after watching the initial cutcene again to be fair

[little slate]

If u dm it to me ill watch it later for sure

[vague shoal]

some background on the battle of zhong du bridge too I assume, since the game dont talk about it

[little slate]

Ill watch all the lore videos I cam as long as they add something new to the table

Yeah there's almost 0 context about the battle itself that'll be interesting

[fallen stump]

Yes I talked about that

[little slate]

Nice cant wait to watch it then

[zealous holly]

On gleaming abyss can someone explain to me void king what is he doing there I don't understand

[little slate]

Immortal seed for longevity ruit iirc

Fruit

He wanted to be immortal, why hes back tho I have no idea

[eager widget]

hey everyone, i wanted to ask if anyone knows NPC Pan Fading at Rat Den?

i tried looking for this guy for an hour now, asking NPC directions and all but still no clue

[vague shoal]

Someone explained that he punished himself there because he failed to stop uncle jiang 16 years ago and disappointed his liege. He vowed to kill 1000 people who enter it and the young master was his last target

[placid iris]

You gotta wait for a long time if you want to see Aunt Han again lmao. Last I heard she might make an apperance in Mohist Hill which was the third area. The next one we'll unlock after Kaifeng is Hexi. That means maybe 6 months from now at best to even a year.

[placid iris]

But then, somehow, he saw Li Zuo’s image when he looked at the MC. What exactly is their connection? I’m dying to know.

[surreal fox]

it'll be about 9 months for region 3, if it's the same pace as cn. Hexi should probably be in february

[placid iris]

Uuuh I think he's a father with sick child? Maybe? Have you cleared out that cave with enemies. He's trapped there before he can go to Rat Den.

[placid iris]

Here's the thing though the Hexi story is divided into 3 regions. What I heard is that we get one new region every 3 months. That means it may take 9 months to finish Hexi. Then 3 months later we see Mohist Hill. I could be wrong though...

[surreal fox]

nah hexi took like 6 months to finish

[placid iris]

Well hopefully it's like that lmao. I want more main story asap.

[eager widget]

yes i rescued him long time ago, i've been to Rat Den and made old friends there also, the thing is i forgot where rat den is located which is sucks, the NPC also not helping

[eager widget]

i just found it nvm, thank you

[zealous holly]

I got distracted by the warm side story on the area but having void king there felt like I missed something

[quiet wigeon]

All this time I've been a lore nerd on each game I play and in this game I missed a lot of stuffs so much that I have 0 idea this is the case. Somehow I ended up with the totally wrong impression that the spirit man that lost his lover turns into the void king.

[vague shoal]

the male memory is still alive and is the main villain

[quiet wigeon]

main villain?? in where?

[vague shoal]

and the liege I mentioned is him too. From the quest we know he is the last emperor of the fallen Tang dynasty

And he's the leader of aucreate pavillion

[placid iris]

He's li zuo last empeor of the og tang dynasty. You gotta know Chinese history to catch it.

[quiet wigeon]

aah, I see.. I guess we haven't met him yet on this part of the story

[jaunty coyote]

why are all these emperors out here wuxiaing instead of fixing policy

[vague shoal]

U have. He's the white haired edgy guy with the bugs

[jaunty coyote]

bro go draft a bill or something

[placid iris]

He shows up in trailers and prologue. The guy with white hair.

[quiet wigeon]

ah.. right. the nondescript villain guy that looks from afar looking sinister and mysterious that constantly bullies young cultivator..

he won't be fully revealed on the story for some time I assume?

[placid iris]

Btw white hair usually means immortal so I kinda suspect the sleeping daoist as cultivator lmao

[vague shoal]

He only shows up here and there looking mysterious so far, but his goons have did a number on us, u know blissful retreat incident

[quiet wigeon]

in a cultivator universe Daoist is always a cultivator I think

[placid iris]

Doesn't have to be. In common wuxia, Wudang members are daoist.

[vague shoal]

the sleeping daoist is either zhang goulao, or is just a world boss who's inspired by him.

[quiet wigeon]

yeah. I'm aware of the basics of the aureate pavilion and the main story. The backgrounds though.. I missed by a lot, it seems.

[placid iris]

If you don't mind I can send you a link to a video that explains the background history of the WWM setting. It's made by CN player.

[vague shoal]

the lore for the sidequest in this game is like 10000x bigger than the main story lol

And the game makes us dig for all the clues to piece them together

[quiet wigeon]

absolutely, don't mind at all. I really appreciate that!

[placid iris]

You should also complete Dark Surge if you wanna get secret cutscene about Tian Ying

[quiet wigeon]

yeah. But somehow in this game, at times due to my own foolish deduction, at other times due to missing contexts outside of the game itself, I ended up with entirely wrong answer as to what happened lol. It's a pretty tough one to crack

I really need to train my scholar skill...

[quiet wigeon]

yeah. I've got the story explained from the reddit. And there's no way I realized 3/4 of the lore about Tian Ying even when I read all the letters and stuffs.

[green wyvern]

Lazy translation not helping

[placid iris]

The amount of times they use him instead of he...

[umbral zinc]

omg I found Ruby's red thread after what happened to the village and it made me tear up T-T

[green wyvern]

They’ve used he in the same sentence with she

[quiet wigeon]

I understand that they don't want to every show you a scene involving a ||dead child, let alone someone as cute as Ruby||, but the end on that chapter really didn't give me enough closure that I still feel weird seeing the MC acting like a normal teen immediately on arrival in Kaifeng. Wish they show a scene of us ||carrying Ruby to the graveyard, carving her tomb, praying at her tomb, talk to her grave, etc etc||

[peak beacon]

Did that village get hit by a meteor???

[umbral zinc]

yeah, ||the only thing the we get afterwards is her red thread, soon after we talk to her we learn that she is in heaven||

[vague shoal]

Imo her legacy questline is enough closure for me

[umbral zinc]

kinda, play the story xD

[peak beacon]

cool cool cool tight tight tight

[quiet wigeon]

yeah. It's.. just about, I suppose. I regret continuing the story and heard about the hidden side quest later on.

[vague shoal]

You mean the encounter quest?

[quiet wigeon]

yeah. I accidentally pressed 1 and spawned a burning horse and threw an explosive spear in the middle of the village. Sorry.

[peak beacon]

damn

[quiet wigeon]

yeah, the red ribbon? I honestly forgot if it was an encounter quest or something else? Is that not the one you mentioned?

[vague shoal]

The red thread quest, I was lucky to get it right after when I was looting some chest in heaven's pier and found the map lol

[umbral zinc]

yea is the encounter quest

[vague shoal]

Even in Kaifeng there's an encounter quest that explains murong yuan's background and context , unless u look it up it's so hard to trigger it

[placid iris]

Is it that one with the general on the bridge?

[vague shoal]

he's only the condition to trigger it. It's from the girl at the pavillion, right below the bridge

[placid iris]

I think there's a continuation quest where you need to talk with that girl at the lake but she won't show up!!!

[vague shoal]

She showed up after I talked to the guy on the bridge again

[obtuse ferry]

I love it so much <333 And piecing the clues together oneself, gives a better grasp on the story 🩷 It is very rewarding

[placid iris]

yeah that guy on the bridge move to the pavillion right. I then deliver the item to the other general on the temple. Wait for server reset but nothing changes.

[vague shoal]

I havent done his wandering tales, I just talked to him again while he was still standing on the bridge, and when I went back the girl showed up for me

[dim sundial]

Are there any real occult elements to this game? I’ve asked this once before but the person I talked to wasn’t sure so I figured I’d ask again 😅

[peak beacon]

I just had a spooky time at a burning village

[vague shoal]

yes there are, some side stories do involve them

[zealous dome]

[vague shoal]

thousand buddha village is a good example I think

[placid iris]

Occult? You mean ghost? Visit the ghost market under Kaifeng during daytime.

[inner light]

Is there any known lore behind these? I know it's a fantasy world. But I wasn't expecting to find this today haha

[placid iris]

Also the one at Boddhi Sea I think. That's pretty spooky too.

[placid iris]

Probably creation of the Mohist

[inner light]

Possibly

[limpid rose]

How skilled are we as the young wanderer? like I get it that we are new into the Jianghu but is it acknowledged that we fought off the Void King? or like the dozen other powerful foes in the open world

[quiet wigeon]

there's honestly quite a lot imo. But it's not overtly occult per se, they made it kinda vague, like whether what happened and we see is just hallucination, or people pretending to be demons, etc. The "actual spiritual realm entity" that we genuinely see in the game are surprisingly the gods. Like Tian Ying with Asura and Caishen coming soon.

If you're referring to "creepy" though the main story towards the ghost market is the creepiest one IMO.

[quiet wigeon]

not from main story perspective I think? Story wise so far the greatest accomplishment we've done so far is... beating up three kids. The rest of the bosses in the story are dream/hallucination stuffs.

[dim sundial]

Like real demons, witches, etc

[dim sundial]

Ah okay I see, thank you!

[limpid rose]

Damn for real I thought we at least fought Tian Ying

[placid iris]

Probably not. This is wuxia not xianxia.

[placid iris]

We did fight Tian Ying but the guy just pretend to lose since he's using us to pretend to be dead.

[quiet wigeon]

at the very least on our current ability on main story, I'm pretty sure we would die if we're genuinely fighting the non main story bosses lol

[placid iris]

Well we're just starting out. I'm sure we'll get there eventually.

[limpid rose]

I mean yeah but there gotta be some merit to our ability is we were skilled enough to find brodie in the first place

[dim sundial]

what's the difference if u dont mind me asking

[quiet wigeon]

we need rescue from regular guardsman. and the form of rescue is flying ducks and chickens.

[placid iris]

Wuxia is martial arts and somewhat grounded in reality. Xianxia is about achieving immortality via cultivation and you can find tons of cultivators around that live hundreds of years. There may also be jade emperors and other gods and demons. You won't encounter them in wuxia.

[vague shoal]

Only the heart seeker is illusion i think, others r kinda real like seventeen and void king.

[quiet wigeon]

oh yeah for sure. I sure do hope so, and let's pray it doesn't take the protagonist 10,000 years cultivating in qi dense caves..

[vague shoal]

General ye was probably fake tho

[dim sundial]

oooh okay

[limpid rose]

I don't see why the game can't have immortals running around

[quiet wigeon]

no, I mean the main story. I honestly feel the main story is entirely separate from the optional bosses, with our character being still so... unprepared

[dim sundial]

they do seem to have dieties although im unsure if those are real gods or not

[placid iris]

I'm kinda curious though. Since the game is titled Yanyun Sixteen Sounds in CN, it sounds like it focuses on the Yanyun Prefecture. However, the states themselves only became reclaimed near the end of the Song or Ming dynasty, if I remember correctly. So that's like hundreds of years in the future. Are they going to continue the story after that, or will there be a divergence from history?

[dim sundial]

i ran into the rat one and laughed lol

[quiet wigeon]

the side bosses do have real legendary fighters for sure

[limpid rose]

Doubt it I think we get one good human lifespan in this game

[placid iris]

Because that would reduce the importance of the main villain who’s trying to achieve immortality.

[quiet wigeon]

I sure do hope not. I have tons of friends and I'd hate to lose out on weekly gifts due to them all dying of old age.

[limpid rose]

nothing central to the story I mean just like a lil easter egg

[quiet wigeon]

the daoist boss I think is obviously a cultivator imo

only a cultivator can fly and fight with pooping donkeys

[vague shoal]

That guy’s kinda like an easter egg

[limpid rose]

oh yeah he should be a daoist cultivator

I guess our open world feats are separate from the main story for now

[vague shoal]

Goose in this game might be cultivators tho

[limpid rose]

phoenixes

[quiet wigeon]

Qianye is also technically illusion yes? In the real world we're just sitting down trapped in the illusion while big bro Yi Dao is defending us

so in the story so far we've beaten two illusions and three kids..

[placid iris]

We'll do something big in Kaifeng soon

[quiet wigeon]

Caishen?

hope I get to beat him soon

[upbeat forge]

alright lore gang I need some help, took a week break from the MSQ, but I think my game's buggy or something because dialogue has been randomly cutting out and I'm confused as hell: everything made sense until after Qianye boss fight, then I got lost

I've just finished the Revelry Hall sequence where you take the pill, these are my questions, any help is massively appreciated:

• Why was I looking for the Ember of East in the first place

• Why did I want to find the treasure basin (before it got stolen)

• Who is this "Wuqan" or whatever I think the EoE is

• What is the protagonist actually... doing? Like from my perspective everyone in Heaven's Pier died, Aunt Han pulled us from the fire, and suddenly I'm on a road trip to Kaifeng with seemingly no guiding purpose

help pls

[placid iris]

Caishen? Who's that?

[quiet wigeon]

God of Wealth IRL, it's what the... super greedy guy that duplicated the coin with the bowl? turn into

[placid iris]

We got letter from Ember of East saying that he knows something about Aunt Han who we're looking for. Wuque is his alias. We just got pulled into the treasure basin mess because of curiosity.

[upbeat forge]

you a real one for that, thanks

[placid iris]

Did you not read the letter from that eagle before starting Kaifeng quest?

[quiet wigeon]

or at least the somewhat deranged version of it. God of Avarice

[placid iris]

That's Lord Si I suspect

[upbeat forge]

I might have, it was a while ago, I wanted to wait for more breakthroughs before continuing the story so I don't keep getting time gated when I'm enjoying it

[glacial prism]

I can't believe the letter had a love letter inside

[upbeat forge]

the downside is being massively confused lol

[quiet wigeon]

that's him, yes. I remember he's a lord but I forgot his name

[vague shoal]

that letter is in the mail

[upbeat forge]

and another thing

• Kaifeng is the imperial capital?
• Weiyang, where the EoE is presumably some kind of lord or important person, is underneath the emperor
• the prefect of kaifeng is basically the mayor, and if kaifeng is the imperial capital, presumably a very important bloke

is that right

[vague shoal]

a lot of people missed it

kaifeng is song dynasty imperial capital

[steady leaf]

1 more sleepy

[vague shoal]

If u want to know how important the prefect is, you can look him up, he's a real historical figure, beware of spoilers though

[upbeat forge]

oh for real? interesting, thanks

[steady leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/plum-blossom-sword-technique-plum-blossom-sword-art-plum-blossom-martial-arts-manhwa-gif-12085355289827853233

[steady leaf]

How it feels like, the damage= 127 🤣

[vague shoal]

strategic sword will definitely get blossom effects in shop

[steady leaf]

Exsctly, just got it and tried it against enemy while only levelling up to 20🤣

[lyric kestrel]

I see, thamks

[placid iris]

I need to prepare my wallet

[placid iris]

Kaifeng is the capital of the Song Dynasty. Ember of the East isn't an official. He's just jianghu person. The Kaifeng Prefect is ||the emperor's brother||

[upbeat forge]

aaaah I wish I hadn't clicked that spoiler

that's on me lol

[placid iris]

Tbf chinese players don't even consider it as spoilers since they know the history of Song Dynasty lol

[steady leaf]

But this kind of movement I'd association with nameless

[quiet wigeon]

OMG. That guy is ||JUDGE BAO!?||

[surreal fox]

the prerelease cn trailers kinda showed a lot of things too

[placid iris]

Who?

[surreal fox]

like the emperor's face

[quiet wigeon]

the kaifeng prefect?

[vague shoal]

judge bao wasnt born yet, and he's not the emperor's brother

[quiet wigeon]

huh...?

what year are we on again? roughly?

[surreal fox]

962

[placid iris]

Let me make it clear the emperor is ||Big Zhao|| We're currently at the start of Song Dynasty

The founding emperor of song is still alive

[quiet wigeon]

AH. Okay. Well, time to tone down my excitement. I barely have any knowledge of this era, probably judge bao is the only famous story I know around this era.

[vague shoal]

Yeah chinese people arent proud of the song dynasty too lol

[surreal fox]

this is one of the most underexplored eras in chinese media too, especially right before the song dynasty

[thorny timber]

at the end of the quest for the ghost market, does it gate you for time or is everyone gated?

[vague shoal]

everyone, new msq unlocks tmr I think

[quiet wigeon]

yeah, it's gated for everyone. same goes with the level, we're all stuck on lvl 55 atm

[thorny timber]

ty!

[devout kayak]

So I have some questions. In case if it's spoiler I will mark it as spoiler. ||Why was Chu asked to stop Aunt Han? Aren't they on same side? I thought Aunt Han don't want to change his face because he is her lover and all. But why was Chu asked to stop her? Also how can I read the letter that asked Chu to stop Aunt Han?|| Like which menu do I click?

[green wyvern]

Isn’t level gated from when you made your account?

[vague shoal]

I've never heard of a letter like that before

[devout kayak]

I find it in the bell tower, it was addressed to Chu

[vague shoal]

I think letters show up in the quest inventory

[vague shoal]

What are these seals

[placid iris]

Idk man that's just the entry in Dark Surge...

[vague shoal]

And the plot deepens...

[north badge]

Hey guys, I'm working on my Qinghe Tale and Echos in the Dark portion (undercurrents) The second cluster. I have 4/5 unlocked, being "Theft at Heaven's" "Palace of Annals's" "The Shattered Bell" "Clash Between the Waterlady..." According to the Q&A in game, I am missing one titled "Great Hero". I am supposed to be finding "Momo" to unlock it. Has anyone done this? And if so.. Would you kindly share some info on where? I found the flower-picking girl Momo, but she does not give any clues.

[devout kayak]

Oh thank you but I feel like I get more questions after this.|| So Tian Ying was part of the Palace of Annals? I remember reading somewhere that Palace of Annals tried to assassinate Khitan envoy and the Moon Lady was killed? but how does aunt han play into this?||

[placid iris]

She's Water Lady, she used to work for Palace of Annals to help people change their faces and become spies. That's why you find those faceless people in the underground. They're the unfortunate people that failed the procedure and have to hide underground to protect the mission.

After Chu Qingquan stole the Water Lady Scroll she cut ties and left jianghu.

[vague shoal]

It says Tian Ying stole it though?

[devout kayak]

ahh okay I miss the part where she works for Palace of Annals. So both of them met at Palace of Annals and the attempt to assassinate Khitan envoy happened and she has skirmish with them and I guess sometimes during this Chu ask her change her face and she refused and after Tian Ying stole the scroll and she left jianghu and go to Blissful Retreat and met our uncle?

[placid iris]

I mean they worked together

[vague shoal]

Oh...I havent spoiled myself reading tian ying's lore yet

[placid iris]

Because Chu Qingquan helped Tian Ying, Aunt Han got mad and cut ties with him. That's what I'm trying to say.

[placid iris]

Yes

[vague shoal]

Ok I definitely didnt know that they knew each other, need to do dark surges soon

[placid iris]

Tian Ying knows many people. Even Jiang Yan left to save him when he got trapped after killing Khitan envoy.

[vague shoal]

Bro's more like MC than the young master

[devout kayak]

Whew the timeline is a bit confusing. and there are too many informations so I am getting hella confused. But man, I wish I could see more of Chu and Aunt Han in their younger days. Their love story is really tragic.

[placid iris]

Indeed both Jiang Yan and Tian Ying are more like Qidian protagonist than our MC currently is lmao. But I'm sure that will change when we get to Li Zuo.

[placid iris]

I can send you link to video that explain the background history of WWM.

[devout kayak]

sure why not. I think I have watched all the videos but might as well as rewatch it again so that I can build my own mind map and timeline. Thank you

[upbeat forge]

could you send me that too?

I kinda speedran through the whole of qinghe, didn't pay much attention to anything, and only started caring about Tian Ying and his story after I beat him lol

[quiet wigeon]

honestly the ability to have multiple characters things really need to arrive soon. It's the kind of game that you need to do the story at least twice to get the full gist. First playthrough will always be confusing.

[placid iris]

I at least want them to allow us to rewatch old cutscenes...

[quiet wigeon]

yeah. That'd be a really great QOL

[hearty hedge]

question the story of Tian Ying is like itachi uchia type of thing no?

[placid iris]

This is lore channel

[uneven depot]

so ? it says talk about anything :) So I talk about my problem

[placid iris]

Well I can't help you anyway 🤷‍♀️

[uneven depot]

hahah it's okay.

[olive nebula]

Hello! Can someone please explain me why exactly Li ZhenZhen was "defending" the Khitan envoy? I am trying to piece together this subquest lore but I think i lost some details?

[mellow horizon]

Years later, during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, the second emperor Cai Rong reclaimed three territories from Yan Yun. The Khitan sought to reclaim them by allying with Nan Tang and sent an envoy to negotiate. The righteous soldiers of Qinghe intercepted this intelligence and sought to kill the envoy. Tian Ying, who had once saved Li Zhen Zhen, devised a plan. In a letter to the Moon Goddess, he wrote: “The Khitan envoy must not die in Qinghe. I ask the Moon Goddess to protect him and intercept the Qinghe soldiers…” He did not wish to save the envoy out of mercy but to make sure the envoy died in Nan Tang, thus ruining any potential alliance and keeping Qinghe’s name clean. He couldn’t explain this to the soldiers—there were too many, and they wouldn’t accept the cost. So he asked her to stop them, even if that meant killing them. Tian Ying planned to go into Nan Tang alone. But Li Zhen Zhen insisted on accompanying him, claiming that she would never find him on her own since she was blind. After convincing him, she joined his journey and left Feng a farewell letter. Li Zhen Zhen led the Khitan envoy safely to Nan Tang and slaughtered countless Qinghe soldiers in the process. The soldiers, feeling betrayed, turned against her. Even Feng, shocked and confused, passed her farewell message to the Qinghe forc

[olive nebula]

Thank you very much!
I have her journal entry on 100%, what have i missed that had these details?
Also, when i was under the lake, it seemed to me that the dead soldiers had the Auriate pavillion's men model, is that just an asset or is there any tie between those who were trying to kill the envoy and the organization?

[left anvil]

That's really well done 0.0

[hearty hedge]

question the the bell tower aun tan and tian yiang fought here and why ?

[placid iris]

It's Aunt Han and Chu Qingquan who fought. As for the reason, you can read this:

[placid iris]

You can only post links in media channel

[hearty hedge]

why tian yiang need that scroll she had ?

[placid iris]

The text literally said he needs it to slay the envoy...

[hearty hedge]

and confused me as if she so powerful why the heck she didn't help us when the enemy attack the blissful retreat

[placid iris]

Dunno there has to be a reason not yet explained

[hearty hedge]

I dont know why but i feel since this game is a lot focus in the china story and more stuff they should increase the budget for better translation

i saw people in reddit who played in CN and talking how awful and how much information people from global are missing or getting confused with the translation

[placid iris]

Well send feedback to customer service then. Complaining about it here won't do much.

[hearty hedge]

nah there probably enought feedback but as a new player the whole story was very confusing like I didnt have clue the heck was going on

[frank granite]

Pretty sure its a bot

[hearty hedge]

I didnt know who was who and why we fought some people and etc like the whole thing was chaotic as my experience

I even have to put the voice in chinese because a lot dialogue were missing plus a lot voice line is AI sound robotic (no talking about main content but more like random npc or side quest )

[graceful brook]

this quest of becoming a horse is 🙂

[placid iris]

I don't think so. Having some background on the history of China, especially the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, definitely helps, but the basic story is still pretty easy to understand. At first glance, it's a classic hero’s journey: the MC carries a hidden secret they grew up unaware of, and their parental figures also have their own share of mysteries that attract enemies who want to uncover or claim them. That’s the main story.

For the side stories, you definitely have to read more item descriptions or listen to NPC chatter. Gathering Dark Surges will also give you a clearer picture of what’s happening in the background, so the storytelling is more like Elden Ring, where you aren’t spoon-fed information. It’s definitely a far cry from Genshin Impact, where Paimon regurgitates every bit of information to hammer it into players and treat them like kids.

[hearty hedge]

hahaha that last part got me XD

[placid iris]

The main point is you have to pay attention.

[sudden valve]

I remember someone said that we would meet Aunt Han again, but in another map => future update

[placid iris]

In Mohist Hill, yeah.

[hearty hedge]

having someone like the lady from bg3 would help a lot

[sudden valve]

Yeah, and they already have the Mohist Hill map in the game. It's jut not opened yet. Guess this would be the next big update

[drifting whale]

BIG ZHAO IS THE EMPEROR HIDING AS A COMMONER!!

[placid iris]

Please censor that this isn't spoiler discussion.

[sudden valve]

Yes the guy is hillarious

😂

[empty kiln]

Dear developers. I just want to play the game not to feels hurts

[austere orbit]

I am kinda curious, do the "immortals" in wwm have longevity like most wuxia staples? There dosent seem to be anything that implies they live long lives

[quiet wigeon]

generally almost everyone you see in the game atm are not immortals, with very very, extreme exceptions

[austere orbit]

How many of them are immortals? The guy controlling the bug at the start of the game is one I presume? Any others?

[quiet wigeon]

assuming the immortal you mention is referring to the immortal cultivators, the game isn't really about cultivating. This game is themed around wuxia, not xianxia. It's more about legendary (pretty much magical) martial artists, and doesn't involve tribulations / demons / etc etc

[austere orbit]

ah, that kinda explains things

[placid iris]

Trauma builds character

[austere orbit]

there arent any actual long lived immortals then?

[quiet wigeon]

the bug guy immortality is questionable, and we'll have to wait for the world story to progress. I assume the donkey daoist is definitely a cultivator, but he's apparently some sort of "easter egg", referencing a popular mythical character

[quartz saddle]

Yh I have

[little slate]

gz

[austere orbit]

there is a true ending? How

[little slate]

im trying to 100% qinghe and wanna die atm

[placid iris]

Secret cutscene more like. It's about Tian Ying.

[placid iris]

Do oddities included to 100% area?

[little slate]

probably

[austere orbit]

I did not even know about this

[little slate]

but im not sure

u kind of auto get them all anyway

[placid iris]

I already finished my qinghe oddities so I'm too lazy to gather the rest.

[supple musk]

I think no? Bcs they respawns

[placid iris]

They... don't though? I already cleaned out Kaifeng.

[supple musk]

Dang, I mean that's good things now you can upgrade your oddities things to bai ji or others npc but you don't need to gather all oddities for 100% area achievement

[quiet wigeon]

A friend of mine ended up with more bugs than he needed to complete the Qinghe oddity tree. Made me think it will always appear until we 100% it?

[supple musk]

Yeah

[placid iris]

nah they just put more than we need I think.

[supple musk]

It's respawn bcs I gather from clinic like 3-4 times already