💬off-topic

[dark wigeon]

Get outfits that I won't see in mmos

[wet lance]

I feel a bit bored to begin playing Lies of P DLC

Haha yeah they look good

Meh

[dark wigeon]

I won't be bored since I have plenty to do before this game officially drops

[wet lance]

I have plenty to do as well but they mostly boring responsibilities

And im like

Using discord and games to run away n like

Bruhhhhhhhhhh

Dilemma

[wet lance]

What ya got to do tho

[dark wigeon]

I meant game wise lol I exclude work and stuff

[wet lance]

Ah

Im just looking out the window staring at the sky feeling the wind and like

Mehhhhhhhh

[dark wigeon]

I'm working all days until the 24th though

[wet lance]

Dang

Hyper busy

[dark wigeon]

So I'm technically busy with that until beta

[wet lance]

What about after beta

[dark wigeon]

Its good money though

[wet lance]

U get time to play?

[dark wigeon]

I didn't schedule work after beta

[wet lance]

Ah

[dark wigeon]

I work when I want

[wet lance]

Thats so awesome

[dark wigeon]

The beta starts at 9pm for me on the 24th anyway so I can play it after work but probably won't for too long since I'll be sleepy

[wet lance]

Yeah

But u ll have plenty of time to play it out

Its a week so

Do you have friends irl ?

U do stuff irl? Like for fun?

[dark wigeon]

No

Not much of a people person irl

[wet lance]

Ah

[dark wigeon]

Yea I didn't schedule work after the 24th

Not working again until august

On purpose

[wet lance]

Yeahh

Priorities

[dark wigeon]

Online I can chat someone ear off but irl I'm quiet so I dont make many friends lmao

The most talking I do is at work

[wet lance]

I used to be that way

When i was a teenager

But then improved my social a lot

[dark wigeon]

I dont have much in common with the people around me

[wet lance]

Coz i had crush on girlssssssss

[dark wigeon]

And I dont have a car to be going around my city to do stuff

[wet lance]

Yeah in the US u need a car pretty much

[limber edge]

that definitely would limit you in the states

[wet lance]

I have, absolute nothing in common with anyone

I mean

Ok its exagerrated

But like, yeah i am idk always different in some way ovjectively and subjectively

So as much as i fit in or find something, i have a feeling of cast out but that doesnt matter when things r like good

[dark wigeon]

Most people around me like to drink and smoke primarily

And don't game at all

Don't like most of the things I do

So I wouldn't be able to hold a convo

[wet lance]

Oh yeah i have a younger brother just exactly like you just said too

Real good kid tho

But i been helping him develop some key habits

Like fitness etc, and he just started, and works out 6 days a week for 3 weeks!

Whereas im like 2-3 days

3 on very occassional good weeks

But for me like

I get outta my comfort zone a lot

But at same time, when i do so intentionally, like idk, ok i had breakup, and try to meet new people etc, its like, i just notice the differences in the inside

But the activities are fun tho! I went tennis with strangers for eg

But when it comes to people i judge people’s personality so damn much and like its so easy to find something i dislike about someone

Im far from anything i even deem good but like, i still judge

And then regret/realize later

[dark wigeon]

I dont judge much

[wet lance]

Sometimes i mean

Soemtimes im right to judge xD

But yeah not judging is what should be

But for me its just my internal disposition

[dark wigeon]

Ok back had to walk into the building i work at

But all in all I enjoy my own company enough to not feel lonely without friends and stuff irl

[wet lance]

Yeah thats good

Wait what animes r sad for u tho

I dont really get sad about things i watch anymore

And have stopped watching a lot of things

All i care about is work and family, but i sort of seemed to have lost myself for the time being so im like, yeah, just being lost for now

I think what I wanted and had was some security for the future, and upon losing it, I’m drawn back to most reality which is filled with uncertainty and unknown, and I’m finding the transition difficult to navigate for now, but i suppose like, at least i thought of it now and like, yeah. My bad for spamming tho, so, sorry but thank you

[stiff reef]

I wish all the best for you and your future man ❤️ I’m certain things will work out best way for you in the end

[dark wigeon]

If I can remember the ones that made me cry was
Angel beats
Clannad
Asobi Asobase (from laughter)
A silent voice
Maquia
Ride your wave
Your lie in April
One piece
Naruto (during certain scenes)
Oshi no ko (first episode)
Can't remember anymore off the top of my head

[simple sundial]

Violet Evergarden
AnoHana
Cyberpunk Edgerunners

[buoyant cargo]

Have any of you seen 15 Centimetres Per Second? Jfc that was too realistic. I got it for my girlfriend after we watched Your Name together thinking it'd be a cute romance movie...nope.

[marble comet]

I watched it but I didn't understand anything and found it super boring

also didn't help that I watched it with a group of people, maybe I would try to watch it alone

[slate mortar]

really looks like chinese for sure

[nova fiber]

Stellar blade was a really good game. Hyped for SB2. The combat was really well done.

[hollow seal]

yeah it was super fun, bought it cause eve is hot but kept playing cause the gameplay

[vestal mango]

it was fun playing this game

[vestal mango]

why does graphics look so bad

[ionic acorn]

I have to tell myself to resist buying monster hunter wilds every time I see the hunter fashion subreddit

😭 like ...god the drip is so good for fem characters

I want it Sooooo bad

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-fainting-desmaio-mad-crazy-gif-6971696022815179065

[hollow seal]

world + ib is great

just dont get wilds

[ionic acorn]

I meant wilds

Poo brain

LMAO

I don't like the combat of monster hunter in general

:((

[hollow seal]

i love mh but wilds optimisation is insanely bad

and getting worse if anything

[ionic acorn]

Yeah I saw it's reviews are tanking it on steam

Yikes

[hollow seal]

my pc can run it but its nearly unplayable for quite a few of my friends

[ionic acorn]

My only hope is they do another collab with FFXIV so I can get another outfit out of it since the director of xiv is friendly with the mh devs

[hollow seal]

just wait two years for the expansion and hope that fixes things

[ionic acorn]

😭 id still wouldn't buy it but I hope they fix it tho

[spark heron]

Moving in from general

Either way

Pronoun roles are an easy way to help include an entire community

At the cost of a few minutes of an admin’s time

With no cost to the community

I don’t understand why ppl r so against it

[hollow seal]

id argue if you want to hide from some ppl youd make another account anyways incase the ppl you want to hide from also join one of those other servers

[spark heron]

But that still doesn’t make sense to not spend a few minutes to set up pronoun roles

And ppl usually don’t go through all their friends profiles to see which servers they share just to enter those servers and see their friends’ profiles in specifically those servers iykwim

So in the end, it’s still lower cost to just set up a bot to give pronoun roles to ppl who want it

And some ppl like me might just want it

And it doesn’t compromise anything for ppl who don’t anyway

Bc they can just not have it

[crisp osprey]

i mean you can also argue the point that it's already a feature open to anyone and everyone on their discord profile

So it makes no sense to add more

[spark heron]

But it does make sense for reasons listed before

[crisp osprey]

It'a slready a feature

[spark heron]

That is not viable for every situation

[crisp osprey]

Adding in server profiles isn't going to stop someone who joins this discord from finding out anyway

[spark heron]

Particularly situations where ppl most in need of pronoun roles are prone to finding themselves in

[crisp osprey]

If people "need" pronoun roles

[spark heron]

Which ppl usually don’t go through all their friends profiles to see which servers they share just to enter those servers and see their friends’ profiles in specifically those servers iykwim

[crisp osprey]

I would actually argue that they need professional help with their situations and not a role on discord

[spark heron]

Well, I don’t see what’s wrong with helping transgender ppl feel included

[crisp osprey]

Because if their entire existance is based on a discord role

[spark heron]

For being trans?

[crisp osprey]

No for caring too much about a role

[spark heron]

Well that’s over-exaggerating my words

[crisp osprey]

That's what the word "Needs" means

[spark heron]

That’s like saying, wow, I need a house

And being

I can’t believe your entire existenxe is based on the love and obsession over a house

[crisp osprey]

being a house is indeed something people would call essential

[spark heron]

Which like no

[crisp osprey]

Poor example on your part

[spark heron]

Same over-exaggeration of the interpretation of the word need iykwim

Or it’s like saying

Wow I’m injured

I need to go to the hospital

And being like

[crisp osprey]

Healthcare is also an essential need

[spark heron]

Wow I can’t believe your entire existence is based off of your obsession to go to the hospital

Which is also

The same over exaggeration

[crisp osprey]

Another poor example

[spark heron]

Of the interpretation of the word need

Which I feel like I don’t understand ppl’s obsession with not allowing a few minutes of an admin’s time to help trans ppl feel more included

The cost is low

Reward is high

Why the opposition?

Helping ppl is what we should do 😊

[crisp osprey]

because there's already systems in place

which is avalible to everyone

[spark heron]

That again, don’t help the ppl specifically these systems would help

[crisp osprey]

if they are having to hide their self from people for whatever reason

A discord role isn't going to help them

[spark heron]

Are you trans?

[crisp osprey]

Nope, but i'm a qualified mental health nurse in this department

[spark heron]

Ah

That explains why you don’t know a lot about trans ppl struggles

[crisp osprey]

[spark heron]

Some of them

[marble comet]

My addition to this is that people don't really care about other people pronouns

[spark heron]

Can’t come out to everyone

Due to all different types of issues

But

[marble comet]

If someone is a guy or woman, they'll ask to be called she or he / correct us

[spark heron]

Having gender affirming pronouns help

[marble comet]

so there's not really any point for pronoun roles or something

[crisp osprey]

Suddenly all my training is for naught i guess

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spark heron]

Well some ppl want them, and it doesn’t take a lot of effort to set them up

[marble comet]

Yea, servers don't have to suit to people

and trans are still people

[spark heron]

Whoa, I’m not trying to offend you, sorry if it came off that way

It just seems you don’t have a lot of personal experience with some trans issues

So I’m trying to explain

[crisp osprey]

It's a big part of the problem that is faced in the trans community to this day

[spark heron]

Please don’t discount other ppl’s experience just based off of what your training says

[crisp osprey]

Having everywhere adjust to you and having this thing that a lot of people do miscrew as "entitlement"

Does impact your long term mental health in the recovery period

and discord does do a good job at having options for those who do want to express their pronouns and gender-fluid nature

[spark heron]

Well yeah, but there’s no point in not having them

[undone lodge]

I understood your point perfectly. I think need is a fuzzier word in practical usage than some dictionaries would imply. Clearly some miscommunication occurred due to difference in personal use of language as well as fundamentally different values regarding the fundamental topic of the communication.

[spark heron]

It seems that you feel asking for pronoun roles is entitled behavior(?)

[crisp osprey]

Not entitlement cause that's a scummy buzz word used to critise anything

[spark heron]

Mhmm, I think some miscommunication occurred too

[spark heron]

Then what do you mean?

[marble comet]

I personally find pronoun roles out of place for this kind of server, like, if it was in a friend group or a social community sure, but it's for a game at the end so it's kinda out of place

The language roles for example aren't there to tell people "hey I speak this language", they're there because they unlock certain channels

[crisp osprey]

two points to it

[spark heron]

I don’t really think so, a lot of games tend to have pronoun roles

[marble comet]

I also have to add that I didn't know that you suggested the pronoun roles in #📬discord-suggestions and that I'll upvote you because it's not really something I care about

[spark heron]

Especially as a lot of lgbtq+ ppl tend to be gamers too

[spark heron]

Aw thanks, I appreciate it 😊

[marble comet]

🫡

[crisp osprey]

What i mean is that by citing it as a need and trying to claim that there's no downsides to it is often used as a buzzword for anti-trans people as "entitlement" especially when said systems do exist already on the platform itself where it is protected and guarenteed by discords own community team.

[spark heron]

It’s an issue I feel strongly about especially as I’m very close to and know a lot of ppl personally affected by it

[marble comet]

I don't really care if it gets added or not tbh

[crisp osprey]

And on the point you raised about hiding it from people or certain places, this is where it comes to individually but when i said they need help if they place importance on a role, is because it does feed into more underlying conditions that do need help by professionals.

[crisp osprey]

Same.

Doesn't affect me at all

[spark heron]

Which, I did explain that you would either need nitro, have to make and consistently log out and back into another account, or have to come out to everyone

[crisp osprey]

Again this is where they need to seek actual help

[spark heron]

When the other option is having admins take a few minutes to set up a bot

[crisp osprey]

because they either are not in a safe space in their life or they have other issues that need help to process and deal with

[spark heron]

For what?

[crisp osprey]

Well finding somewhere safe is the main thing

[spark heron]

Well yeah but that’s also denying ppl who don’t have the ability to seek help or cut off everyone who is not allowing them a safe space some comfort

[crisp osprey]

Or learning how to remove the problems from your life instead of letting them control that

[crisp osprey]

Discord is not a safe space for anyone

[spark heron]

Why not help the ppl in the interim

[crisp osprey]

Social media is not a replacement for professionals coming in and supporting and helping people in need

[spark heron]

Which is why we should strive to be more inclusive😊

[undone lodge]

Akiro is saying that "get over it" should be an option for them and that anyone who cannot get over something like that needs help. Which is an argument that could be equally applied to anyone who has any interest in the outcome of this situation on either side of the conflict, if it's granted that people can in fact freely choose what they get over or do not get over, which I would not grant as remotely certain or even logical tbh.

[spark heron]

I’m not trying to promote social media as a replacement for professional aid 😅 please tell me where you got that from, I’ll revise it

[crisp osprey]

wouldn't use get over it as the term

😂

[undone lodge]

Right but not exactly strong disagreement. I'm just presenting the claim you're medicalizing nonmedically.

[spark heron]

I think ppl should be allowed to have things that help them feel included in the interim of getting help, especially as it’s not necessarily instantaneous

[undone lodge]

Clearly the implication is that there should be another option and the option is synonymous in practical meaning to "getting over it"

[nova fiber]

Probably best we move on from this topic. #📬discord-suggestions is the best place to ask for such a thing and the team will take a look at all suggestions.

[marble comet]

Let's move on better tbh

oh good timing

[crisp osprey]

More getting people who have degrees in Psychology and know each and every individual needs specifically and to guide them through their issues and troubles yea

[undone lodge]

I agree it's a minor gesture in the scheme of things. Moreover it can save some time on routine misidentification of the percentage of people who do care.

[spark heron]

Yes, it seems to be getting a little heated

Not trying to start a fight

[crisp osprey]

I wouldn't call it heated at all tbf

[vestal vigil]

Unlike the ******* weather

[crisp osprey]

[marble comet]

It's kinda chill here

[spark heron]

Ah

[spark heron]

Then I wouldn’t mind talking about it somewhere else, as it is a topic I feel strongly about due to reasons mentioned earlier

[undone lodge]

Lol good luck with that.

[crisp osprey]

Should i start the charging clock

jk

[spark heron]

🫠

[crisp osprey]

[spark heron]

Would you like to talk about it? You seem to have some strong opinions as well

I could dm you?

[crisp osprey]

why do i get the feeling you guys think im against things

[spark heron]

I think it’s bc you’re actively arguing against it? 😅

[crisp osprey]

The question was simply

"Why were people not agreeing with it"

[spark heron]

Let’s not talk about it here

[crisp osprey]

I just answered it

[spark heron]

I don’t think the mods are happy

[crisp osprey]

not that i'm against it

[spark heron]

I’ll dm you

🤗

[crisp osprey]

Might take a while to answer

cause i'm going into an iracing event

[spark heron]

Phew, dm sent!

[spark heron]

Since you’re here btw, do you happen to know when they’d get around to that and what they base their decision off of?

[spark heron]

And also, since you’re not against it, I’d appreciate if you could support the vote for it in #📬discord-suggestions 🤗

[lyric bobcat]

This happened

[spark heron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tidal timber]

@spark heron is there any additional benefit to having gender role vs the pronouns specified on discord profiles? If its about having server-specific genders where its more comfortable to state, i think people would do that in smaller private discords rather than larger public gaming ones?

[spark heron]

Ah we got here from general and I think I listed some of my reasoning there, let me find that text for you, please hold on

[spark heron]

Can I dm you some details or should I send it here?

[tidal timber]

sure

either works

[fiery mesa]

Anyone read any cultivation novels? Im currently reading Cultivation online for the thrid time, and Blue phoenix again too.

[hollow seal]

i read one

[spark heron]

I read them but I can’t guarantee the ones I read are good

[fiery mesa]

What have you read then?

[hollow seal]

memories of the fall is great

[fiery mesa]

Ill check it out

[slate mortar]

idk once once maybe i used mod

[vestal mango]

hmm

[dark wigeon]

@lime rain i was waiting on duet but I'm iffy on it

Will just try it when it come out

[lime rain]

I got in the cbt

It was okay

[dark wigeon]

But my main 4 is gta6/wwm/female paladin update on lost ark/and some other updates on the first descendant

[keen fjord]

I just started cdramas

So i'm noting anything you guys are mentioning lol

[vestal mango]

[lime rain]

Oh you should try forever and ever

Don’t try witty or hidden love keep those for later

[lime rain]

Ohh

Try like historical ones first they are good but don’t try ctrauma

[keen fjord]

My first one was Meteor Garden because i heard it was similar to Boys over Flowers and then I branched off to Love between Fairy and Devil, A Love so Beautiful, and Love O2O

[lime rain]

My first was love and redemption I think

[vestal mango]

My mom watches a lot lol

[lime rain]

There were many misunderstandings at first but I got through it

[vestal mango]

C dramas

[keen fjord]

Might give me something to watch today 👀

[vestal mango]

Chinese shorts xd

[lime rain]

Well tell your mum that I’m a fan too

[vestal mango]

Yes

[lime rain]

Nah I can’t stand Chinese short dramas I like the long ones like 40 episodes

[vestal mango]

melo drama

[lime rain]

Hmm which genre do you like

[vestal mango]

😂

[lime rain]

I stay away from dramas that’ll make me cry

[keen fjord]

To be honest I don't think I have a specific Genre with shows -- if it is interesting I'll watch it

[wet lance]

my first was Love o2o

[vestal mango]

Ngl pakistani drama hitting today lol

[wet lance]

Eternal Love

[keen fjord]

I thought it was really good!

[vestal mango]

But indian drama is gone case

[lime rain]

Try hidden love or WIFTY

[vestal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/indian-serials-nonsensical-wtf-wtf-is-going-on-dramatic-gif-13707255

[lime rain]

For school romance or crush type of thing

[vestal mango]

Lol

[tight rose]

I loved hidden love

[vestal mango]

😭

[lime rain]

Yeah some aren’t getting interesting

[wet lance]

Hidden love bestt

[tight rose]

was so cute

[keen fjord]

This was the exact scene I was thinking of LOL

[wet lance]

super cute

[keen fjord]

or at least the same show

[tight rose]

and I love Zhao Lusi

[vestal mango]

😂

[wet lance]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-zheyuan-zhao-lusi-hidden-love-偷偷藏不住-gif-9779898923081929761

[lime rain]

Me too I cried at the scene where Ryan Joachim was giving sang zhi his cards and everything

It made me cry for some reason they are too precious

[tight rose]

I think they really did a good job about his struggle with it

[lime rain]

Me too I’m glad she’s better now

[tight rose]

yeah!

[lime rain]

Yeah it was so realistic

[wide portal]

anyone watch cdrama of mo dao zu shi?
i forgot the name

[tight rose]

yep

Untamed?

[wide portal]

yes

[vestal mango]

Guys have u seen disabled man Chinese movie top tier

[tight rose]

yeah awesome 😄

[wide portal]

i only watch the anime version

[tight rose]

I watched both, loved both ;p

[wet lance]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-xiao-zhan-the-untamed-wei-ying-wei-wuxian-gif-3110322730748764924

[vestal mango]

Yeah

[lime rain]

I didnciltivation

Cultivation*

[tight rose]

Xiao Zhan was so good

[wide portal]

i wanna do a cosplay of lan wangji

[lime rain]

Master of diabolism?

[wide portal]

yes

[dark wigeon]

@vestal mango didn't like scarlet heart much

[tight rose]

go for it!

[vestal mango]

I remember now

[lime rain]

It’s donghua

[vestal mango]

Big world

[lime rain]

Picturesss

[tight rose]

yeah share!

[vestal mango]

Lmao

[lime rain]

Yeah me too

[wide portal]

ya donghua, no i havent bought the outfit yet

[vestal mango]

Such a good movie

[lime rain]

Chinese dramas is really great in doing those transmigration

[lime rain]

Omg this makes me cry

[tight rose]

have not seen this one hmm

[vestal mango]

Yeah korean dramas are boring

[lime rain]

Anytime I see shorts of it

[wide portal]

lord of mysteries is very popular now

[tight rose]

is it over?

don't wanna watch while it's ongoing

best to binge it all at one time xD

[wide portal]

lord of mysteries is only up to episode 4 now

[dark wigeon]

I like a good chunk of them just the newer ones get boring after like the first 3 eps usually

[lime rain]

I haven’t watched it yet, I want to watch it so people can stop the sung jin woo glazing

[tight rose]

ah still a ways to go

[vestal mango]

Only this movie made me cry xd

😭

2007

[lime rain]

Haven’t watched it

[wide portal]

oh mid leveling

[lime rain]

Yup the fans are always glazing the anime that doesn’t even have a good storyline

[vestal mango]

Yeah dyselxic kid but teachers helps him

But teacher was dyselxic as well

💀

[tight rose]

o.O

[lime rain]

Oh well wasn’t expecting that

[vestal mango]

But he knows the pain

[tight rose]

interesting

anyone watched The Double?

[marble comet]

???????

[lime rain]

When do I unlock sending pictures

[marble comet]

The anime might not be good but the original story is pretty good

[lime rain]

It’s mid tho

[wide portal]

i used to know a girl who is obssesed with jinwoo, saying he is the kindest and caring and loves his personality and he is so cool. she bought jinwoo phone cases etc

[lime rain]

Well if so

[vestal mango]

Arise

[marble comet]

Have you read the manhwa or the novel?

[tight rose]

you will always have insane fans for pretty much anything

[wide portal]

yes i read the manhwa

[lime rain]

lol I will never get the anime hype I like the season 1 but the season was just all about Jin woo and the other characters that had potential were left off

[vestal mango]

Yeah waiting for s3 2028

Xd

[marble comet]

And do you think the manhwa is mid? lol

[vestal mango]

Nah

[marble comet]

I mean, I get you don't like it

but not liking it it's not meaning it's mid

[lime rain]

They should have built the other side characters as well

[tight rose]

manhwa was not bad

it's all personal preference tho imo

[wide portal]

yes. jinwoo is the only character, the rest of the characters doesnt matter and nobody cares about them except jinwoo

[lime rain]

It is mid tho the story is mid just the animation that is okay,

[marble comet]

Yea, it's not perfect and Jinwoo is indeed the focus of the whole story

How is the story mid

[lime rain]

Yes always glazing him, I also have a problem with the romance

[vestal mango]

i guess im ready for 2028 for this boruto

[wide portal]

i cant even remember 3 characters from solo leveling

[marble comet]

I can remember a few and my memory is horrible

[wide portal]

jinwoo, cha the girl and thats all i know

[lime rain]

lol

[tight rose]

hah

[marble comet]

That's a you problem tbh

[lime rain]

I only play the game

[wide portal]

nah\

[lime rain]

Me too

[tight rose]

I suck at remembering names >.<

[wide portal]

i remember all characters from naruto, bleach, etc

[marble comet]

oh I don't remember names

[vestal mango]

just few more years for this fight to happen

[marble comet]

but I remember a few of the characters

[wide portal]

im good at remembering names

[lime rain]

Now I’m into donghua

[marble comet]

The rich guy who almost got killed by a team of raids

The MC ofc

all his summons

[tight rose]

oh did you watch Slay the gods? @lime rain

[lime rain]

The animations are just 🤭

[marble comet]

The demoness girl of the tower

The president of the Korean association

[lime rain]

Yes I did

[tight rose]

what did you think about it?

[marble comet]

the S rank who defended the MC

[tight rose]

was kinda short imo

[dark wigeon]

Nah

[marble comet]

and I could keep on lol

[lime rain]

My pfp is the other donghua made by the studio

[marble comet]

Please Yawn, Solo story is good

[tight rose]

oh which one?

[lime rain]

Yeah we’re getting a season 2 next year

[tight rose]

oh nice!

[lime rain]

The demon hunter

Meng chia

[tight rose]

need to watch this?

[wide portal]

even demon slayer has a better story than solo leveling

[lime rain]

China

[marble comet]

No one can really expect what happens after the ant arc, and that's proof enough that the story is pretty good

Demon Slayer has a good story?

[lime rain]

It’s sooo good try it

[marble comet]

lol

[lime rain]

Yeah

[marble comet]

Good joke

[tight rose]

oki, thanks for the rec!

[lime rain]

Creepy good story

[marble comet]

Demon Slayer has a good world building and develop the characters

but the main story is pretty below average

[lime rain]

Yeah

[vestal mango]

ending was bad

[wide portal]

solo leveling is basically bad guy comes, jinwoo let people die, jinwoo appear and saves the day. even in the manhwa

[vestal mango]

well he has a son

in the future

[marble comet]

Yea but that's not the main story

[lime rain]

Yes lol but the fans won’t agree

[marble comet]

I mean

[marble comet]

I can agree with many things

but I really doubt you have read the manhwa fully

lol

[wide portal]

its okay we have klein from lord of mysteries

[tight rose]

I'm excited to see what they'll do with Omniscient reader's viewpoint

[dark wigeon]

Nah its really one dimensional to me

[tight rose]

a movie is supposed to come out on 23rd iirc

[limber edge]

solo leveling is a pretty decent story. Above mid but not much above it imo

[dark wigeon]

I like when more than just the main chr get development thats why I dont like solo leveling

[lime rain]

I heard that Jin woo was the strongest, so when I heard that klein Morreti(dunno how to spell his name) beats him I suddenly got interested in LOrd of the mysteries

[dark wigeon]

And I read the manwha not watched the anime

[marble comet]

The main story of Solo Leveling isn't the power-fantasy of the MC beating everyone

[vestal mango]

damn

[lime rain]

Me too the other characters were dumped

[tight rose]

it's hard to find any story that's absolutely unique today, tbh, everythings been already written about somewhere else

[marble comet]

the main story of Solo Leveling is all the matter about the gods

[vestal mango]

aura farming

yes

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-arise-solo-leveling-arise-gif-4562500486549573462

[lime rain]

The gods and sung Jin woo

[limber edge]

honestly in terms of hype.. its a peak hype story

[marble comet]

Yea, many of us love Solo because he's cool and the story is interesting, but I really feel like we're forgetting the real story which happens in the show

[limber edge]

not really?

[marble comet]

Jinwo coming and saving the day isn't the focus of the story

[limber edge]

it has a better twist than most of the same genre

[tight rose]

it kinda is tho lol?

[marble comet]

Yea that's what I am saying Cody

[lime rain]

Yeah

[marble comet]

Nah, have you read Urban Cultivator?

It's not

Read Urban Cultivator and you'll understand

[tight rose]

no haven't read it

but what has that to do with solo leveling o.O

[marble comet]

There're many manhwas, manhuas etc which the same "X comes and saves the day"

[lime rain]

🤭

[marble comet]

Because Urban cultivator is a power-fantasy like Solo

It's a loop about there's any problem, MC goes and saves the day

Is it good?

No

[vestal vigil]

It's so ******* bad

[limber edge]

also solo leveling ending...

idk how i feel about that

not gonna spoil

since anime isnt done airing but

[marble comet]

Why then Solo is considered peak compared to this Urban cultivator? Because the story

[lime rain]

Like re:zero

[tight rose]

I mean, solo leveling has the background of gods fighting etc, the main focus is on Ji Woo saving the day tho...

[marble comet]

That's what you see

Jinwoo coming and saving the day wouldn't be interesting without the background

[tight rose]

and on his growth from a weakling to someone super OP

[lime rain]

I dislike solo levelling but I love playing the game

[marble comet]

Yea, his growth and later when he gets involved in the ||god stuff|| is the real reason people like Solo

[tight rose]

his progress is much more in the focus than the actual reason for all the fighting tho ...

[tight rose]

I disagree lol

[marble comet]

Because most of the story is he growing strong enough

[wide portal]

there is no actual stake, no tension

[nova fiber]

What set solo leveling apart from the rest was the art was top notch.

[wide portal]

yes

thats the only thing

[tight rose]

yeah art was good

[nova fiber]

That helped its popularity

[marble comet]

I remind you people that ||the MC actually died in Solo Leveling, and I'm not talking about the ending||

[lime rain]

There were others that were better though

[wide portal]

but he didnt, he got back

just like goku

[lime rain]

Like the donghua super cube

[limber edge]

truue

[wide portal]

goku can come back so there is no stake

[tight rose]

there's always better stuff, and also, it's def a personal preference, just because a lot of ppl like smth, doesn't mean everyone does

[lime rain]

https://tenor.com/view/super-cube-super-cube-anime-anime-fight-combat-super-cube-ep-7-gif-13867073569850497835

[tight rose]

and vice versa

[nova fiber]

Yes but what helped also was that it had a very consistent release schedule

[marble comet]

Until that point no one knew Jiwo could come back, so what's your point lol

[limber edge]

If anyone thinks the art in solo leveling is mid..

[wide portal]

anyway i dont wanna talk about solo leveling anymore

[lime rain]

lol

[wide portal]

agree to disagree

[tight rose]

fair

[nova fiber]

Also the characters were well written.

[vestal mango]

he is back but

[lime rain]

In what? Solo levelling??

[marble comet]

I disagree about a few cases but yea

[nova fiber]

Yes, compared to most of that genre is it very good

[wide portal]

anyway to be hero x is also a donghua/chinese anime

[lime rain]

The characters in solo levelling are just a stepping stone for Jin woo to get a new power

[tight rose]

I kinda feel so pissed about what they did with TBATE anime...

[limber edge]

heard great things about it, and with Lord of mysteries

[lime rain]

Yeah anime fans will call it anime saying that it’s the same thing

[limber edge]

i need to watch those both

[wide portal]

donghua is finally rising up now

[marble comet]

That's not true. Jin Woo only got a power from like two characters, no one else

[lime rain]

Donghua has better stories

[tight rose]

the only issue I have with donghua is

translations are not always up to par 😦

[lime rain]

The harem some has a lot of harem

[marble comet]

if only the manhwas could get their own korean adaptions without going to anime tsk

[limber edge]

i mean like japanese people call all animated media anime.. so like i think its pretty pointless to argue if something is anime or not lol

[lime rain]

But it’s not the same thing though

[wide portal]

tbh i dont mind people calling it chinese anime tho, im chinese

[tight rose]

donghuas?

[lime rain]

Yup

[wide portal]

donghua or 动画 means moving picture/image

[lime rain]

Who watches heaven official blessing

[tight rose]

was good!

[lime rain]

Yup I hope it gets a live action

[tight rose]

so can be like animated or drawn?

[limber edge]

the meaning literally is just animation..

[tight rose]

hopefully

[lime rain]

I heard there was a live action with zhang lunches

Linghe*

[wide portal]

not for drawn, it has to be moving so it has to be animated

[lime rain]

But it won’t release anytime soon because of the restriction

[lime rain]

Okay

[tight rose]

ye I mean, uh, cgi vs cartoon type of thing o.O

idk how to explain

[wide portal]

oh

[tight rose]

when they say anime, it's always cartoon for me

[lime rain]

lol 😂

[tight rose]

I mean :S

[wide portal]

theres no distinction in chinese, maybe 3D donghua and regular donghua

[lime rain]

I love 3d donghua

[tight rose]

I've seen only a few donghuas and they were all 3D

[wide portal]

and for comics, chinese call it manhua

[tight rose]

yeah

[lime rain]

Me too

[nova fiber]

Yeah people get manhua and manwha mixed up a lot

[marble comet]

manhwa

[nova fiber]

Mistype

[lime rain]

Like for Korean- manhwa
Chinese- manhua
Japanese- manga

[tight rose]

yep

[vestal mango]

yea

[lime rain]

Yes that’s why I say that anime and donghua are different I only say it for the recognition

[wide portal]

allow me to intro this donghua for you all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHwF6gdGi-g

[nova fiber]

I'm not the best type on a phone XD

[wide portal]

its not well known outside of china

[nova fiber]

Tyler*

[marble comet]

yea me either Jinx

[wide portal]

but the animation is amazing

[marble comet]

tyler lmao

[lime rain]

If people keep calling it anime donghua won’t get its own recognition

[limber edge]

pfft

[wide portal]

like mappa lvl animation

[nova fiber]

Typer*

Autocorrect XD

[limber edge]

fair argument

[tight rose]

this looks really good!

is it over?

[wide portal]

only season 1 is out now, im waiting for season 2

[tight rose]

ooh, time to find a way to watch it with subs :S

[marble comet]

As long as people know that anime isn't only produced in Japan, who cares if it's called anime instead of donghua

[wide portal]

the animation is on mappa lvl

[lime rain]

Yup

[limber edge]

lets just call anime cartoon

donghua? cartoon

[tight rose]

tbh they originated like that pretty much

[marble comet]

I call cartoons anime too

lmao

[lime rain]

Sometimes if they look cartoonish lol

[limber edge]

manga? comic
manhwa? comic
manhua? comic

[marble comet]

I only like this differentiation because they're read differently

[limber edge]

japanese people refer to king of the hill as an anime so like :P

[lime rain]

Yeah that’s the general name
But isn’t comic like maybe for me it’s like marvel, supa strikers

[tight rose]

this has only 12 eps o.O

[wide portal]

anyone else checking this out? its also set in the wuxia world like WWM. and it has insane fights and music

[wide portal]

yes but you wont regret watching it

[tight rose]

ofc not

am just sad it's so short ;P

[lime rain]

Title again I’m too lazy to scroll up

[wide portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHwF6gdGi-g

[tight rose]

Blades of the guardians

[lime rain]

It’s always short

[tight rose]

😦

anime used to be 24eps usually...

[lime rain]

Is it on youku or WeTV?

[tight rose]

now 😦

I found it on yt

[lime rain]

The demon hunter is 63 episodes

[wide portal]

i watched it on yt lol but i remember the subs being a bit weird sometimes

[marble comet]

Japan is too busy making animes where the MC is a guy isekaid into a world where only females exist, to get back to 24 eps

[tight rose]

that has more seasons ig?

[lime rain]

Renegade immortal is like 100s of episodes

[tight rose]

this is my biggest gripe

[lime rain]

Nope that’s just season 1

[marble comet]

Renegade Immortal is overrated

[limber edge]

im disappointed in renegade immortal's adaptation

[tight rose]

oh nice

[lime rain]

Yup it is

[lime rain]

I dunno how to shout this out

RENEGADE IMMORTAL IS REALLY MID

[wide portal]

fairies album is also a nice donghua

[marble comet]

It has a very interesting background

[limber edge]

like the novel?

or

[marble comet]

Yea

The novel is full of holes

[lime rain]

The first half was really good but it just went 🥴

[marble comet]

btw it's not even finished

[limber edge]

wdym

its finished

lol

[marble comet]

nope

It got banned in China

[limber edge]

i finished it...

[marble comet]

so the author never finished it

[limber edge]

what?????

[tight rose]

why??

[lime rain]

I wanna try swallowed star now but I’m finding it hard to watch

[lime rain]

Whyyy?

[marble comet]

wait

maybe I'm talking about another novel

brb

[tight rose]

lol

[marble comet]

Yea, I was talking about the Gu Master guy

I forgot its name

but it's pretty similar

[limber edge]

im pretty sure there was an ending for RI

[marble comet]

lol

[limber edge]

ok

yeah

lol

[marble comet]

not Er Gen

Er Gen is my fav author

sorry my guy

[limber edge]

isnt renegade immortal like his first novel

[marble comet]

I thought his first one was the sealing one

[limber edge]

definitely not issth

RI is first

[marble comet]

interesting

I found issth kinda boring

[limber edge]

Renegade immortal
pursuit of truth
i shall seal the heavens
a will eternal
a world worth protecting
Beyond the timescape

[lime rain]

I can post pictures now

[marble comet]

I have read a will eternal fuly

a world worth protection like half

and beyond the timescape like half, up to updates a few months ago

I tried i shall seal the heavens but found it a little boring

[limber edge]

er gen's novels are great when you have a lot of time to kill

since its so freaking long but its still pretty decently written

[wide portal]

if any of you got the time, go read jin yong's novels. those are the og

[tight rose]

what did this person write? o.o

[wide portal]

and even WWM has reference of his novels in the game

[wide portal]

legend of the condor heroes

[limber edge]

im probably not gonna get around to reading it

since im reading Er Gen's novels in order...

[wide portal]

laughing proud wanderer

[tight rose]

yeah ummm I did not watch this lol

or read it

[marble comet]

I remember we got to be friends because time beyond the timescape lol

[wide portal]

its a chinese classic

[limber edge]

I stopped reading it because it kept referencing other novels

[tight rose]

will give it a read ;o

[marble comet]

where did you left it?

[limber edge]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[wide portal]

some skills in WWM are a reference to jin yong's novels

in fact WWM references a lot of other shows/novels

[limber edge]

somewhere after he goes to that academy

the uhh

[lime rain]

HOW TO READ NOVELS PLEASE?🙏

[limber edge]

i cant remember the details aggh

i pay

money

[marble comet]

I use pirate sites

[limber edge]

and cry because my wallet bleeds

[marble comet]

uh what academy wtf I don't remember any academy in beyond the timescape

[lime rain]

NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY TO START, I quit because wdym I have to read 1k+ chapters

[limber edge]

something about mankind

[limber edge]

just force yourself to read with a really popular story or something

I could barely read more than a paragraph at first.. highschool really killed my love for reading

but i got it back :D

[lime rain]

Ohhh

[wide portal]

lord of mysteries has more than 1300 chapters

[lime rain]

Yeah I heard 😦

[tight rose]

what even has so many chapters o.O

[limber edge]

currently in love with Guiltythree's Shadow slave... ch 2441

[tight rose]

damn o.O

[marble comet]

I can't get myself to read webnovel novels

lol

[lime rain]

Lotm I think

[limber edge]

theres very few webnovel novels i liked

very few

[tight rose]

I would not mind lots of chapters, as long as the writing is good

[marble comet]

that's the issue with webnovel

[lime rain]

Try it

[tight rose]

problem is translations

[marble comet]

And I can tell this because I have talked with many of their authors

included guiltythree

[tight rose]

is it finished tho? :S

[marble comet]

They just write stuff to keep the story on and keep getting $$$

[tight rose]

I hate reading stuff that's ongoing 😦

[marble comet]

and you can notice it

[limber edge]

at least with guilty the story is interesting enough to keep reading lmao

[lime rain]

Not sure ask @wide portal

[limber edge]

his writing quality dropped but not low enough for me to drop his story

[wide portal]

yes its finished

i only read like 50 chapters only lol

[lime rain]

It’s finished

[tight rose]

ok good

1.3k chapters hmmm

first gonna go watch this donghua, it's only 3hrs20mins

[lime rain]

Haven’t tried it yet tell me how it goes

[tight rose]

will do!

[wet lance]

👀

[tight rose]

@wide portal damn blades of the guardians, this was good!

[vestal mango]

[tight rose]

only 15 eps, hope s2 is gonna be out soon

[wide portal]

you finished 1 episode?

[tight rose]

wdym I watched all 15

I watch at 2x speed so eh

[wide portal]

what lol

nice

the fight scenes are amazing

[tight rose]

yes!

they were really good!

[wide portal]

esp when the mc did the killing intent

[tight rose]

gimme smth else to watch lol

[wide portal]

he was scary

[tight rose]

was rly not thinking it'd be this interesting, but they did a great job

and animation style was also great

[wide portal]

ya its a proper wuxia animation

[vestal mango]

oo damn

[tight rose]

translation was ugh sketchy at some points, which is annoying but

can ignore it

[tight rose]

wooo, this is gonna be great if true

[wide portal]

my fav character is the guy with the face paint/mask

[tight rose]

Zhi Shi Lang or smth?

[vestal mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n5bhXsb34Q

[wide portal]

yes

[vestal mango]

leaks

is out

[wide portal]

his speech about his identity is chilling

[tight rose]

yeah, dude is amazing, too bad he has leprosy 😦

yeh leader of the Hua Yong group or smth, forgot the name

I'm horrible with names QQ

[tight rose]

this would normally make me super happy, but sometimes stuff like this can kill a game before it's out 😭

[vestal mango]

well its only on ps5 rip

😭

[tight rose]

no PC?

[vestal mango]

nah

not for now

[tight rose]

RIP...

[vestal mango]

it will come later

[tight rose]

probably...

[wet lance]

i saw it 👀

[tight rose]

I saw it too xD

[wet lance]

aigooo

[tight rose]

[wet lance]

she wanted to kidnap someone 👀

[wet lance]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-quiet-be-gif-597401044830573588

[tight rose]

whoo ;o

if young, good looking male, am all for it

will help

[wet lance]

I dont know xD she just wrong message here about wanting to kidnap someone 👀

[tight rose]

xD

[wet lance]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

https://tenor.com/view/checked-out-gif-8139111214977286037

[vestal mango]

Huh

[tight rose]

what, nothing to see here

[vestal mango]

Haha

Im guy i can tell what's happening lol

😂

[vestal mango]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-gif-2734175389934997010

[ionic acorn]

@lime rain i would die for sylus. the game had finally pushed me to actually pay when his myth banner came out

otherwise im typically f2p

[lime rain]

lol would’ve continued too but I hate the stories I didn’t like the lore

[ionic acorn]

but im aware of infold and their infinity nikki stuff

very sad

[lime rain]

I found Caleb cringe I just loved zayne tho

[lime rain]

Yup they are soo greedy, they dragged the game to the pits of hell

[ionic acorn]

i found the writing to be at the same level as your typical otome game level

both good and bad lmao

but honestly in terms of f2p game in general, i really would prefer a standard one time payment to own the game than being nickled and dimed in a mobile styled gacha

and i have to constantly monitor myself with these f2p games because they can be very predatory with people who have neurodivergency

the reason why i quit LADS as a whole

had to catch myself from turning into a whale

[hearty tusk]

yeah i fell for it for a while. i ended up breaking my "pure f2p mindset" and even wasted 40 dollars of my birthday money on it this year. breaking away from it was the best option. i feel so much better now.

i think i spent close to 80$ on that game over the year it's been out.

which is 80$ too much.

[ionic acorn]

good that you got out while you still could

[hearty tusk]

i have AuDHD so it's scary how easy my strong will was defeated.

[ionic acorn]

honestly its crazy to even write a sentence like that for a videogame. it just goes to show how times have changed for the gaming landscape!

im still looking forward to wwm tho

the story is interesting

and im not end game raider

[hearty tusk]

it went from "oh buying the 5$ passes every few months is fineeeee" to "oh caleb is coming out! let's buy all this stuff they're advertising!"

[ionic acorn]

^^^^ yup

[hearty tusk]

i regret all the money i wasted. but i've moved on.

luckily no other gacha game has got it's clutches on me like LaDs did. so i'm safe now.

[dark wigeon]

Were yall f2p on infinity nikki?

[ionic acorn]

i never got around to playing infinity nikki lmao

[hearty tusk]

i spent like 5$?

[dark wigeon]

Besides the story retcon why do you hate it now?

[hearty tusk]

didn't matter tho since their gacha is greedy as crap

[lime rain]

I never spent a dime on the game

[ionic acorn]

tbh i want a dress up game that isnt f2p pls

[lime rain]

I feel like it’s an achievement for me

[hearty tusk]

i quit months before that all went down.

but uh.... the miracle dress to wake everyone up from a coma. i actually quit because of that grind.

and then i find out none of that matters anymore anyways?

[lime rain]

The only game I’ve spent over £100 or more is mlbb I regret it sometimes lol last I checked I’ve bought over 40k diamonds till date

[dark wigeon]

Wondering why yall calling it greedy and hate it

[ionic acorn]

what is mlbb

[hearty tusk]

i still play gacha but with a wary eye. i play for the story and characters lol

[dark wigeon]

Its still apart of the story

[lime rain]

Mobile legends I calculated and I’ve spent up to £900 or more in over 3 or 4 years

[hearty tusk]

i got back into HSR and realized since i vanished for 6 months i had 90 tickets left. so i grabbed a few more from events. and managed to get Phainon and his Lightcone in 30 pulls. and then sunday after like uh.... 30? everything i'm earning is pure f2p tho.

[dark wigeon]

Only the beginning where the tutorial and stuff got changed for new players

[ionic acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/wendy-williams-passing-out-falling-shook-dead-gif-10143241

[hearty tusk]

i used the money i got this month to buy a new mouse and headset lol

[lime rain]

I’ll post my fav collection in general chat

[hearty tusk]

since they were hand me downs

just need to work on getting a new mechanical keyboard lol

[lime rain]

To make it worse my win rate is sooo bad

[ionic acorn]

oh it kinda looks like league

i see why you spent that 900...

[lime rain]

Yeah I got jealous of other players having those skins

All that for me to have never reached legend even the f2p are better than me

[ionic acorn]

😭

[lime rain]

If you wanna sell this account it’s 🤑💰

Mlbb fans are pretty crazy any their game

[vestal mango]

Yea it happens

[lyric bobcat]

here for example there is issue one

[tight rose]

what am I looking at exactly?

[lyric bobcat]

this muscle in big terms is the trapezius and it reaches from the abck up to the neck but where it meets the skin there is usually an indent like a curve but in soj it just goes straight up

[tight rose]

oh this is soj!

.<

[lyric bobcat]

so the skull is disproportionate

it isss

[tight rose]

lel

oki

[lyric bobcat]

showing on my character sorry

[lyric bobcat]

this way some of the hairstyles end up looking rather strange especially in motion, and for female characters its even worse

[tight rose]

😦

[lyric bobcat]

here same part on my female char, and with most hairstyles it just makes it appear like the character is wearing a wig over a bald head xD

[crisp osprey]

That's usually how it's developed

[lyric bobcat]

im aware yes

[tight rose]

ye this is very obvious lol

[lyric bobcat]

there are hairstyles where its very in your face

xD

[tight rose]

😦

[lyric bobcat]

other notable thing is that the size of the feet is always disproportionally large to the body

[tight rose]

I've noticed some games have like huge heads compared to the body

or too small heads...

[lyric bobcat]

feet size is proportionate to height with some error

in soj you can change them thankfully but people do also tend to make very small heads and faces

at least in cn and hmt

[tight rose]

:S

it looks so weird tho, why do it

[ionic acorn]

how expressful are the characters in soj? from what ive seen in chinese mmos. they usually have poor facial rigging or just by design

[lyric bobcat]

it depends

there are cutscenes and dialogues where theyrepretty expressive

in soj the entire game your character is voiced

so most big dialogue options all have your character speaking

[ionic acorn]

ah

oh i shouldve clarified. i mean player characters

[lyric bobcat]

thats what i mean tho

your player character speaks

[ionic acorn]

😮 ah!

[lyric bobcat]

and it varies from being neutral to veyr exressive

lemme see if i can go and record a bit

here some beginner mission dialogue bits it kind of shows the expressiveness of the player character

[ionic acorn]

ooh this is nice

[hollow seal]

what game is that?

[lyric bobcat]

sword of justice

[hollow seal]

oh i heard about that

i pity its not in the west

[lyric bobcat]

it is coming to the west

look it up sword of justice and the global website link should pop up

[hollow seal]

is it phone only? or pc too

[lyric bobcat]

pc and phone

[crisp osprey]

Technically pc is just a launcher using the mobile version

[lyric bobcat]

yeah and theyre working on the pc ui update on the chinese side rn

its gonna come out later this year

for cn

[crisp osprey]

Before it inevitably dies in the west again

[lyric bobcat]

[crisp osprey]

Biggest issue with the game wasn't the p2w feature of the game

But the crappy localisation and the complete lack of content

[lyric bobcat]

lol ill take what i can

to each their own

[lime rain]

Yes lol I beat the hell out of his lackeys

[lyric bobcat]

throwing the guy into the water will never get less fun

[lime rain]

At the beginning I chose to throw stone at that guy

But it led to something else

[lime rain]

Yeah lol

[lyric bobcat]

heh i did that on another character

it all eventually leads to the same option but its nice to roleplay a bit

and have different scenes play out

[lime rain]

Yeah

[plush smelt]

@marble comet the name of the novel is history’s number 1 founder i read it on novels.pl but you may have your own site for novels so may try it. But its the only book where mc doesnt have a lover or harem and its sole focus is on side characters most the time after the novel picks up a bit of speed.

[lime rain]

@tight rose
so didyou watch lord of the mysteries yesterday

[tight rose]

no ;o

I watched that donghua Blades of the Guardians

Lord of mysteries is not done... can't binge it

[lime rain]

Oooh how was it?

[tight rose]

was good!

15 eps season 1

@wide portal might have something else good to recommend? pretty please

[marble comet]

oh I know about it, but I dislike the side character chapters and all the amount of fill the chapters have

Like, for a fight they took 5 chapters without doing anything

[wide portal]

Fairies album

It's more mystical

[plush smelt]

The filler for the story actually is good once you make it to the end of the novel you actually have more attachment to the side characters cause its like their own chapters are coming to a end

[limber edge]

Only 5 chapters for a fight scene?