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Personally I find more worrying that they're releasing paid DLCs while still in EA
This is the kind of company that we're dealing with when you want to talk about aow
or that they released the same game but in UE5 for like $60?
It's not blizzard
And I'm telling you snail is worse
it's not that they are worse
it's that their model works
and they will keep being like this until their model stop working
That's how life is
Why should I change my mindset about how I earn money if i earn money just fine with it
And their mindset is directly the player's fault
Just like EA releasing the same game every year at $60 or $80 is the player's fault
and a large etc with most of AAA companies
As players, we need to be better
The thing about aow is that they've captured a very niche playerbase. It's not a generic game by any means
There's never been an mmo that has combat as satisfying as it imo. And i really can't explain it until you've actually tried it for yourself
Sorry but I don't think I should find it satisfying
I like fighting in fair conditions
I don't want to be beaten by someone who paid to get to that position even thought I'm a better player
And I don't want to spend 3 months farming some resources just because some people pay to skip the grinding
Sorry, not my thing
I have played a lot of p2w games as a f2p, and I keep playing them, and I still don't find them satisfying in any way
The only part I find satisfying from them is that I can compete with low p2w ones and beat them
Like, in the game I'm currently playing, I'm stronger than 95% of my server. The only people who can beat me are p2w who started playing way earlier than me or whales
When you have a system set up this way, where it's a toon building game and pk is the primary content of the game. If you give everyone access to everything then there's really gonna be no variety. People definitely will quit when there's already nothing to work on. It's how the game is set up. If it never was p2w and some other system was in place, then yea sure, but then that wouldn't be aow. It'd be your WoW or whatever
There should be the same variety. It's just p2w players shouldn't gatekeep the same skills
So no you cant have aow without p2w. It'll be an entirely different game
Completely different dynamic
I'm not advocating for p2w. I'm trying to make you see the point I'm making
Clearly for some reason you can't see it
I quit the game dude you think i like it?
Neither am i, i don't get your point?
You are scared, very scared
Lmao...
because removing p2w should change the dynamic, as you said
I shouldn't care about that at all
It's playable and fun? Yes? Then go on!
Way to turn this into an ad hominem argument
When i was simply responding to your query of "cant have aow witbout p2w?"
You can have aow without p2w
It's just not the aow you want it to be
So I really can't say much else
You're suggesting to redesign the fact that it's a toon building game idk what you want me to say
it still can be a toon building game
That we can have aow without p2w, just that it's another game
but the p2w skills are free for everyone instead
At this point idek what you're trying to argue about. What is your point exactly? There's no room for change anymore for this game
Of course the game can't be changed already
You also said you weren't trying to make a hypothetical where the game can be changed
My point was the same than the initial one, for less p2w games to exist in the market
So idk what you're trying to say
and for less p2w games to exist in the market, people need to stop spending in crap pixels
it's not even pixels, it's memory slots
So you did all that just to come and tell me now you're actually talking about the market trend
I always talked about the market trend
I don't know what you thought I was talking about
Which i would've responded extremely differently had you made that clear
Our conversation started with you saying that you paid to skip grinding
and I told you that companies make hard grindings precisely so people pay to skip it
and the correct way to make a game not have such a hard grinding should be to not pay to skip it
Basically that you're are supporting this system by paying to skip it
Anyway
I don't have anything against you so don't worry
Uh huh and i said this rmb?
Thank you for the conversation
yea
and I told you that there're non p2w games right now
it doesn't mean there will be in the future
Maybe i misunderstood your earlier points and it derailed the entire thing
When i said this i meant aow directly i didn't mean games in general
yea I figured it out later on lmao
And this is quite a direct reference to the current state of aow
Imagine someone making an free to play AoW
Yea i see where it derailed
yall argued for an hour and then made up, noice
Nah we weren't exactly on the same frequency on some of the earlier parts but nvm it's all cleared
No i don't like p2w
I mean, just because I argue with you doesn't mean I don't like you
And i feel that p2w in general is just a garbage way of presenting your company
I argue in a friendly way
I expect that when the argument ends everything will be back to normal
lol
true, but not everyone is like that, it's kinda rare LOL
Because you're telling the playerbase that this game is a cash grab
We didn't exactly disagree
I had a game in my phone, super fun
Roguelike
I quitted playing it like 4 years ago
You were on market trends and not condoning p2w and i was on how p2w just wouldn't work in a game like aow as it is now
I installed it again on my phone and they added a cash shop
Now you can buy things to get stronger, and they slowed down the progress
That's why it felt circular
You mean the gatekeeping part?
Yea
I dont agree that p2w should be used to gatekeep, but i think that something else should be there to gatekeep
Maybe a random encounter
Or something
Oh I am like this 😄 and I know many people who are too
I mean you are a dude right
boys convo at 3 am
alr
I'm totally against gatekeeping, even if it means the game will die out of no content
not the ones i've seen the past year 😭
Ok let's not bring politics into this LOL
huh
lmao
I feel like that would upset a lot of ppl
yea no politics by rules too
I think I know what you're talking about Miki
Then which men??
i'm talking about guys on games
but it depends on a lot of things
I dislike P2W as a rule and I want it made illegal across the world.
Won't happen but it's a dream lmao
idk anything about politics

I want pay to play. And then pay for further dlcs
And maybe a sub to get special perks if ppl want
Like the bdo sub thingy that makes it easier to grind
i don't like talking about it 
you pay to get the expansion and also pay monthly
LMAO
Like eso you know
oh I don't know anything about ESO
I think eso has a good model
I played their closed beta but that's all
You basically pay for the base game and pay for expansions
And they have this vip system where if you buy vip for like a month
You get access to all expansions and dlcs for a month
So you can either outright buy the expansion to make it permanent or pay for it to have access for a month
it's basically a monthly sub
Not really if you just grind out the content in a month you'll have everything
No need to visit it again
I did it
LOL
I did it when i was still in school
yea
So LOL
That's the normal part
lmao
but an adult has less time
even more if they get married and all
You spend half a day working, and the other half taking care of home and your family
at most you'll have a couple hours a day to play something
maybe a little more
The one gripe i have with f2p games
Is hackers
Not saying paid games dont have hackers but having a paywall there certainly culls it to an extent
oh man, don't say that lol
I fear for WWM precisely because this
The CN version is more controlled because they ask for your ID card
but the Global version will be crazily full of cheaters
Or the bounty hunters
On a side note
Which guild were you in
after BD merge, Rebellion
Why did i expect that answer
lmao
Usually major players who aren't deity end up in rebellion
CMK is- all kinds of bad words i can't say
deity used to by my guild's ally before BD merge lol
You were from age of wulin right?
it was one of the first servers haha
i think i remember that? not too sure lol
Silver viper
oh yeahhhh
i have but i don't think i knew anyone from there
I was Eden
And then i quit only to come back years later
Still no idea why i came back
my guild was LittleMaster but my guildies wanted to be more competitive and talked with the leaders in rebellion and then we merged lol
i couldn't 🤣 the graphics just got too unbearable for me
i was in a sect named Eden in overmortal... flashbacks to when i spent waaaay too much on that game
It's getting a makeover
I played Overmortal...
Oh I've heard of that game
nuh uh-
it was fun.. for a little while
But Eden is quite a common name
my wallet did not like it at all
I think it was great to experience a p2w game and have fun.. and learn a lesson on not playing p2w games
You need to spend $10k to be someone there
dang... i never learn my lesson lol
Sounds like you had the aow experience too
I spent like 2k, was the sect master of the largest sect... I missed feeling important bahahah
the aow experience?
Basically be subject to p2w
in my server the strongest spent $20k in a single month
it was one of my guild mates
Global version tho
But it's a cultivation game no?
no idea if you played a japanese version or something
Yup
i played global
Why spend so much on a cultivation game
people love being strong and beating people
it was really early on, my server was not that big of a whale server
I had been called weak by people who only are stronger than me because they spent
lmao
lmao
I cant wait to pay money for WWM tho
I'm from the first ever global Overmortal server
i need to get a high paying job.. just for this
Motivation
It works you know
whales or shark?
Pressures you to do well so you can beat the lil shite that's been annoying you for months
Girlfriend?
Family?
Car?
naaah WWM drip
indeed
atleast not in art
nah it's fine
Well WMM can kinda be discussed anywhere, since you know.... This is the discord for WMM lmao
the description of the channel
@subtle nexus you can't send your fav emoji here
sorry
I find the name choice interesting cos it's vastly different from the actual name
I think it's fine, WMM has a kind of poetic touch to it
Yea
I like the poetic meaning more than the original name
The original name is also kinda poetic but it's more direct
"Sixteen Tunes of Yanyun"
I see you guys are on fire today hahaha
Well it seems you got to understand each other at the end hahaha
I finally got to enter the SoJ discord 👏🏼
It really wasn't that big a deal to either of us tbh
Half the time i was trying to figure out why we didn't seem to be talking about the same thing
That's good then hahaha
Just a conversation that derailed into an argument cos of some misunderstood points
Nah bro you good, i should've picked up on the fact that we were on different topics earlier
weee
don't be shy and say hi there later hahaha
i'm okay~ what about you?
yay! 
don't beee haha i'll say hi if i see you 
@subtle nexus
I guess you didn't like it
wymmm
Your reaction to it looked like you didn't like it
it's so good tho
Weeeeeeeeeeekend
lmao
Anyway, can the authors please stop giving spoilers in the chapter titles? 🥹
It's hard to always avoid reading the first line
super crowded
was it fun tho?
Was quite excited for successful reservation for Japan pavilion, they say it’s good and the lottery is the most difficult to win
But that one is really bad in my perspective
Others are satisfactory
there
?
a second or a first?
Sleepy
do you like lotteries then?
Since you were so excited about it
yea go to sleep, we can talk tomorrow
since ur homies come out
And going to wake up 3:40 to watch champions league final and catch my flight back home 7:10
he like foodball
inter always gud
then yea go to sleep asap lol
Blame Real Vardrid for got stop at quarter final
oh I blame them for everything which happens don't worry
I'm so sick of them
lmao
Then I’ll be a happy Barca fan
that should be better
Barça and their fans are okay
they don't have so much ego like Real Madrid people
how about manchester united?
u like it
I only know about them because they're my country top teams
u like it since before birth
and because everything bad which happens in football here is related to the Real Madrid somehow
you should be amazed at their level of influence here
They're pretty powerful, in a bad sense
Seriously? Nobody knows of Ananta?
What's that
Another new game, right?
no real idea honestly
That's cool too. What were you reading?
I just got home, it was very fun! ate a lot lol Now I have to do master's degree homework TT
It's an isekai where all Earthlings transmigrate and become Lords in the new world
and the new world has kinda RPG settings
so the lord talent of the main character is getting 100% drop rate
A nap before homework? lmao
I don't know how you aren't sleepy after eating so much
Why everything you read sounds like it has a good plot?
I will save that one too in my list hahaha
if it is me, I should fall asleep already
Good taste, what can I say?
hahahahaha
I wish I could, but I cant sleep during the day
I have to wait till night time to sleep again
idk why
oh
I'm not an easy sleeper either
but sometimes if I feel sleepy I can take short naps
hahahaha you're probably right
give me that superpower of yours
I wanna be able to sleep too
hooo? tell what else
hmmm
I can change my dominant eye at will
another one I prefer to don't say here because reasons
how do you even do that?
haahaah dirty mind mode ON
I didn't know until I went to check my eyesight
The woman who attended me was like
what the f
how can you do that
LMAO
but what do you feel? like do you feel the change?
barely
now I'm super curious I didn't know that was possible?
But it's painful if I do it intentionally
like, I feel some sort of pressure below the eye
but I think I can do it without it being intentionally too
since well
That's what happened during the eyesight test
That's crazy hahahaha
Yea the woman who attended me kinda congratulated me because that
No, I don't have superpowers like that
She said it was a super hard thing to do
and I was like
Uh I didn't even know I could do that
I thought it was impossible ahahaha
yea same
Good job I guess
lmao
hahaaha
Natural talent I guess
what can I say
hahahaha
some people can vibrate their eyes
ahahahaha baja modesto
I don't know an expression for that in English
ahhahahah It actually sounds like an ultimate skill
No¿? We say 'Baja modesto, que sube gacob'
Maybe it's something from Canary Islands
Idk
ohhhh
We don't say that here but I think I have heard of it before
I don't remember where tho
Oh! hahhhaha
An useless ultimate skill
hahahahaha
it's pretty much useless
Me neither
hahaahaha
maybe it's helpful for the brain or something, like they say if you use the other part of your brain it helps prevent Alzheimer
hmmmm
i have assumed I'll have alzheimer when I get older
so I don't think that will be the case for me
hahahahaha
but hey
Sleeping during the day isn't really a super power
it's just that I'm a night time person
so eventually I got used to sleep in day time
why is that?? 😮
My memory really sucks
I can learn things pretty fast and I love to get new knowledge
but my memory can't keep up
hahahaha Actually here too. For example in my family they all take a nap after lunch, and I'm always the only awake. Even since I was a little kid
ahaahaah The mix of both things is really something
it's mosty if I sleep badly during the night
I see
Well it's good that you can do that
With work I don't have the time to nap even if I could
yea, that's fair
so its finee
then you have holidays soon no?
so I won't have that issue until I finish
I already have them
my last day was 2 days ago
yeah but its online
so I don't really have the pause
I mean I could, but I have to catch up to what I didn't do before
Audiovisual translation and dubbing
more on the part of audiovisual translation
English yeah
No, you actually remember it properly haha
I know French and Korean too
learning Chinese when I have the time too
I'm a translator actually
Yeah hahaha
hahaha thank youuu :3
^^ ❤️
I mean
There're billions of people in the world
many people are still a minority
Also
I can change my dominant eye at will yes, but you can change the language you speak in the midst of a conversation
4 times
5 once you get fluent in chinese
ahhaaha I will never forget your dominant eye superpower
That's true, but sometimes I don't remember a normal word in my own language, so I'm malfunctioning sometimes
oh yea
ahahhahahahahahahahahhaa
in this caotic world hahahaha
hey
The podium of speaking fast has always been for us andalusians
Are you copying our culture?
wow
hahahahah maybe?
was it one of your favs? I was never really a fan of it
I liked it
Not sure if favs
hmmm
From them, I should say my fav is Wall-e
and I barely remember anything of it
oh no
Training your dragon
I forgot it's also from Dreamwork
I never watches Wall-e
I loved training your dragon
I wanna go watch the live action
hahahahaha
boy how are you so fast!?
I'm in computer
June is still too far away
ahahahha
me too but I'm not that fast
alright let's do a test
ohh you had an early start hahah
[link removed]
either is fineeee
english then
it's less of a bother
lol
when you write a word press space for the next btw
I start now
oh ****
wait can I start again? aahahahdjsajdsd
oh
swithc the language to Spanish
how much did you get in English?
alright I finished one in both English and Spanish 🫡
dshfjhgdsf
hahahahaha
DEAD
hahahahahaha
in WoW you need to be real quick to be a good player
Plus I used to fight monsters and players while typying in the chat at the same time
but I lost a bit of speed tho
shocked
that's crazyyyy
ahahah I see... you lost a bit of speed
oh god
hahahaah that's so cool
there was barely anyone who posed a threat so it was okay
you must be a very good player then
I can smell the confidence even here
hahahhaa
I stopped playing WoW and went to play Guild Wars 2 instead
very similar games
but I competed in GW2
Never played any
you should try
but I know them
in GW2? yea
I was a high-ranker there
my team was the non-pro top 1 team in the server
I normally don't have all that time to play, so normally I have to choose which one to play
the pro teams didn't count on there
I hope to have more free time when I change jobs
I was like 21yo back then
The last time I went to that game
Someone beaten my ***
I left that game because my team was...
uh
how to say it
We had different goals?
it was weird
mmm okay
They intended to reach the pro league without sacrifices
only two of us actually had the right mind about that
For example
I was a high-damage dealer class, and I had to go myself and hold bases because the tankies ones in the team didn't find it fun
It is very hard to find people who think alike in general, not only in games, but work, how to deal with hardships, etc
Pretty much
but I don't know how they pretended to reach the Pro League without actually having a team mindset
like... we should be earning money from that
play smart please
😭
So sad actually!!
it's a fun story to tell now and that's all
people are not mature at the same age
yeah ahahaha I understand
good stories
ahahah
alright I have to go to my master's
it was a fun chat :3
Not wanna tell any of your stories before going off?
👀
I feel bad I have been talking about myself the whole time
lol
hahha it's okay I'm a good listener
and I'm a curious cat
next time if a story comes to mind I will tell you
Thank youuu!! Talk later
here we always have good temperature. Canary Islands, you see hahahaha
I'll enter combustion if I was there ahhaha
I dont even know if you can say it like that
haahaha
very please
breath in deeply while you're still there before coming here
so it's cool air
This joke hurted even myself
hahahaha I'll bring the fresh air with me
Laura Cold Air S.A
the best
<<Cool air directly imported from Canarias>>
hahahahahaha
are you taking the sun with you too?
Leave something for your fellow people please
😭
hahhhahaah
hahahahaha
Just like someone I know
oh you know someone like this too?
I wonder who is this person
I hope they are nice
🤔
they seem like it
ahhhh lucky
think about the other meaning of this
That's funny too ahhaaha
😭
not my faultttt
I had a horrible sleep for days already
I need to sleep more than 8 hours now to fully rest
whyyy?
no idea
Initially maybe nervousness/anxiety because I had the last exam of my year this last wednesday
and the rest days maybe because my sleep schedule just broke
oh how did it go??
Like, I went several nights only sleeping 4-5 hours
and I'm a long sleeper lol so that's very low for me
9.5
that's too little, you're chatching up on sleep then
you're too hard on yourself
At least I ended up the year being the top of my class
that's a very good mark too
🫡
I mean
my exam was perfect tho
the teacher removed 0.50 because something I added which he didn't think necessary
but I added it for a good reason
eh it's hard to explain without being specific
I'm studying coding
and my exams are making softwares
waaaa more interesting things !
So my software crashed under a specific condition
so I added something to the code so it doesn't crash
But the weird thing is I tried doing the same in class the next day and it didn't crash
so I don't really know why it crashed at that time lol
Ohhh, So that's why they thought it was no necessary
still
I would not have taken out points for adding something good
if what was expected was met
ahg
the thing about coding is
every single thing you add takes resources
So you're expected to code things in the most efficient and shortest way
I still think my nullcheck was good tbh
but I didn't want to bother with it anymore
so I let it slide
lmao
just kinda sad I might have gotten full marks if it wasn't for that
Well, you can take that situation into account for next time
but still you did well 🙂
Thank you Laura
It's funny I always tend to make at least 1 mistake so I almost never get full marks on anything lmao
don't worryyyy i'm not that harsh on myself either
I know marks at the end of the day are useless
I'm happy enough knowing I'm top 1 in my class
and btw I just found out why I added the extra code on my exam
I just went to check it lmao and yes I was right
jdasdadsjasa I can't believe you went and checked it out
hahahahahahahaa
When I was telling you about it
I was like
"wait, was it because that...?"
so I just went to check it
hahahahahahah
how did your master go btw?
could you advance much?
ahahhahaah
it's true that you are a curious cat
🫡
Mister Curious Cat at your service
I actually prefer dogs tho but calling youself curious dog sounds kinda weird
I have to do a long activity this time. I have to do an audio-description of a short film
about the minions
create a script and record myself then create a final video
But I could only do the preliminar researsh and a draft of the script. Still is good for today
ahahhaha
yeah
yep
It was nice to meet you Laura
I noticed that I could be making you nervous
so I needed to change my approach
hahahahaha
no, no, it's fine hahahahaa
I mean
Its a very short film
I know youtubers and all
so i know the time it takes to edit and all
and it's a load of work
still I think you can do it tho
actually I will first create the script within a subtitling program, then use Filmora (they ask us to use this) and I just have to add my voice audio to the original audio and that should be it.
I'll probably have to do it after I come home from work
and tomorrow too, I will work on it tomorrow too
hmmm
yea
the script might be the hardest thing?
or not
if it's only translating what the original says, then it's okay
I actually wrote it already, but I have to polish it. I will have to read it several times to make it fit within the silences.
there is no original script
I had to write it from scratch
oh
so it's like one of these mute things where you add a dialogue to make it funny
👀
It is for blind people, sorry
they need to know what is happening in the scenes
when the characters are not talking
so you describe the actions happening basically so the person that can't see can understand and imagine it
"maybe she's talking about the original piece of video"
I also do stuff for hard of hearing and deaf people that's why haahhaa
hahahahaha
it made no sense yeah hahahahaha
it was not you being sleepy this time
aahahaha
lmao
yeah I'm tired too ahhaha
so you know sign language?
hmmm it has its difficulty indeed
I do not unfortunately
I wish I knew
I want to learn when I can
yeah, because it can be too long, you need to be precise and provide the most important information making it entertaining? depending on the theme
hahahaha there are so many I don't know
so many = all of them
@marble comet how many user you fished about the release when?
exactly ahahahaa