Work in progress, making it now so I don't forget to write for it (the current lack of information is also on purpose, for the time being)
New name! From Schadenfreude to Scheinheiligkeit's Spark!
Leader and founder- Davke
Founding member number 2- Triblex
#The Scheinheiligkeit's Spark, or Sanctimony's Spark, or Hypocrisy's Spark! Definitely not a cult!
untold python
raven blade
what do you mean "schadenfreude" i don't understand and google translate neither
untold python
It's something like enjoying the suffering of others. Not sadism, it's more subtle and annoying than that
raven blade
Ah, a word that has no equivalent in other languages! Very interesting ^^ even if the meaning escapes me
after inquiry the concept is also known in my language, we just don't have a word for it, we would translate it as "unhealthy joy" ("joie malsaine" in french)it is not sadism because it is peaceful, where the sadist is active in the misfortune of others
untold python
Yes, exactly!
Basically, take enjoyment from the suffering of others, while not necessarily being the one who caused the suffering. It might be passive, but you can technically take steps to lead to their suffering without actually causing it. For example, in the great hall, I said the first session for Gwynthorns was free. It won't be my fault if Gwynthorns start paying for more and more sessions, increasing their stress and lowering their gold intake at the same time, until at the end, they realize they were paying for their own suffering rather than someone elses
In that situation, a sadist would just force the Gwynthorn to participate
gilded sentinel
So… Scientology for Elves?
untold python
Whaaat? Noooo, never, that would never happen!
gilded sentinel
The Gwynthorns would never fall for such a ploy. They know a Ponzi Scheme when they see one.
They break out into hives.
They’re allergic to wasteful spending.
sullen sigil
As a german I have to ask why Schadenfreude specifically?
I get what you’re trying to do I think but the word literally just means "enjoyment of misfortune" nothing else
untold python
As a german I have to ask why Schadenfreude specifically?
I'll answer that when I have time! (At work currently). As a side note, your profile picture is perfect for your question
untold python
The Gwynthorns would never fall for such a ploy. They know a Ponzi Scheme when t...
That's why the first session is free. It's there choice whether or not they want to come back for more. And the fee never changes, always 45 gold (not sure if that's low or not, I tend to cheat in gold, so I sometimes forget), and they can stop whenever they feel like it with no repercussions or retaliation
untold python
I get what you’re trying to do I think but the word literally just means "enjoym...
I am always open to different name. As long as it gets the point across
sullen sigil
well it depends on how you want to approach this sect of spark worshippers and if you want to keep the name german
if i'm understanding your initial idea correctly you want it to be about inducing suffering through subversion
i'm also not opposed to the use of the word Schadenfreude as it is indeed a very special word but it would be more fit as one of the tenants of said religion and less as the name of the entire thing in my opinion
and i guarantee you that it will make us germans quite giddy seeing our language somewhere especially if it is used correctly
our rule adherence boners will be breaking rocks and we will annex the entire religion 
untold python
As someone who appreciates the use of language to befuddle and subvert, I'm happy that the Germans will be ever so ecstatic in their joy
In that case, what should the name be?
What would be a word that most people would think is positive, but the actual intent would be the negative meaning?
sullen sigil
Considering the context of the religion here that is hard in either german or english for me ngl
I‘m no linguistic expert so I’ll see if I can come up with anything that has a positive sound but a negative connotation
sullen sigil
I got might‘ve been able to find one that would probably fit more in terms of overarching fit but it’s not really all that positive sounding in german
Scheinheiligkeit which translates to hypocrisy or what I find more fitting here sanctimony
It does lean more into the wickedness aspect of schadenfreude though but it works with the subversion aspect since it implies the image of some pretentious prick trying to sell you his course and get you into his mlm scheme
At least to me
untold python
Hmmm. Sounds interesting. I'll use it
The Spark of Scheinheiligkeit! Definitely not the Cult of Sanctimony!
The Spark of Scheinheiligkeit! Definitely not the Cult of Sanctimony!
sullen sigil
I‘d suggest switching the structure around for it going from "The Spark of Scheinheiligkeit" to "The Scheinheiligkeits Spark" idk how that sounds for an english native speaker but it seems like the more natural structure for my german mind
It might just be me being nitpicky though so idk
untold python
No, if you said that Scheinheiligkeit means sanctimony or hypocrisy, then switching it would sound better in both languages. And in that case, it leads to even more ideas for it
The Scheinheiligkeit's Spark, or Sanctimony's Spark, or Hypocrisy's Spark! Definitely not a cult!
I'm liking this more and more now
sullen sigil
Glad my nitpicking could be useful 
untold python
We are glad to have one such as you as a founding member of our alternative to the mainstream Aelurans
hidden mirage
We are glad to have one such as you as a founding member of our alternative to t...
funny idea make them eat humans
untold python
funny idea make them eat humans
Not that kind of religion. Maybe one of our smaller sects can focus on that
hidden mirage
Not that kind of religion. Maybe one of our smaller sects can focus on that
its a seprate religion?
shouldnt it be a faith?
untold python
Yes, faith, my bad. I always mix it up
gilded sentinel
Scheinheiligkeit which translates to hypocrisy or what I find more fitting here ...
I can’t even begin to pronounce that word.
It reads like someone was trying to say a long word that begins with an S and had a violent sneeze while saying it.
I mean it’s super unique and cool, but I don’t even know where to begin with trying to read that aloud.
sullen sigil
Well Schein is pronounced like shine, heilig can be pronounced like hay and lick and keit is pronounced like kite
That doesn’t mean they are translated as such just the words that came to mind sounded roughly like them
sullen sigil
I mean it’s super unique and cool, but I don’t even know where to begin with try...
Hope this helps a bit
shine-hay-lick-kite
It’s the best I could come up with for now
The ay isn’t quite the ei sound but it should be understandable for a german speaker if you try to pronounce it that way since it would be quite hard for a non native speaker to pronounce
We do have a knack for making words hard to pronounce
static oriole
It's a shame we don't have CK2's cult stuff. That'd be great for this.
untold python
We are not a cult! We are a faith based profitable non-profit
untold python
It's an Aeluran faith. Why ever would an elf clan make a human based faith?
static oriole
No I mean would it be located in Western Europe.