Character Body Overhaul

[runic obsidian]

Elf ears dont appear when you load CBO afler Elf Destiny. To solve the Problem you need Elf Destiny loaded after CBO. Its Fully Compatible

[candid river]

heya, place CBO lower than elf destiny in mod order. itll then work

[runic obsidian]

I had CBO at the bottom of my load order and the Elf Destiny mod at the top

[lone dew]

somehow I have my CBO on top and then elf destiny and I get the elf ears

[candid river]

thats the right way round, sorry my mistake you need elf destiny loading after CBO

[lone dew]

i'm also just using CBO and not physical attributes

[runic obsidian]

Okay thanks I will try it

[winged tiger]

Do you know a mod that makes cbo and aep compatible?

[lone dew]

They don't work together?

Does it add new clothes or something?

[winged tiger]

Asians like Chinese and Japanese have no clothes

[lone dew]

It will probably never happen, I always see that people trying to make a compatible mod for CBO but ends up being a lot of work apparently

[winged tiger]

Oh... So I prefer to keep cbo, because already the Asian mod is not really compatible with my old saves, and the day it is abandoned my saves are perhaps dead? or in any case I would return to situation 1

[lone dew]

You enabled the Asian mod mid save?

If that's the case I'm surprised the save worked at all

[winged tiger]

no a new game

Well in this case, both, but along the way it makes the added part belong to the British Empire

[lone dew]

Yeah unfortunately unless you don't mind everyone being naked it's either CBO or AEP

[winged tiger]

oki

[nimble perch]

Has anyone gotten this to work? Anytime I have CBO in my load order, all elven women have comically large tits. Triple the size of their heads, and their arms clip right through the middle of them.

I'm going to do some digging in my playset. See if I can find the culprit

[lone dew]

you need both cbo and the cbo patch

found somewhere within the forum comments

here

[lone dew]

lmao

just use cbo, dont use the other stuff the mod auther has

so the load order should be
CBO
CBO Patch
Elf destiny

should look normal like so

[nimble perch]

The only items in my load order are those.

In order:

• Carnalitas ( necessary? )
• CBO v1.8.4
• CBO 1.12.1 Unofficial Fix
• Elf Destiny

[lone dew]

ah yes i forgot about carnalitas

[nimble perch]

What version of CBO do you have?

[lone dew]

are they getting the big boobies trait or something?

i have whatever version is on loverslab download

1.8.4

also if you use better barbershop put that below CBO patch

[nimble perch]

Hmmm... I have all the Carnalitas game rules disabled, so no traits are being generated

[lone dew]

cbo
cbo patch
better barbershop
elf destiny

[nimble perch]

Do I need Better Barbershop?

[lone dew]

did you try again now? did the patch work?

[lone dew]

oh yeah you should get better barbershop

[nimble perch]

I always had the patch

[lone dew]

very good mod

not sure if you can even add revealing clothing without it

[nimble perch]

Ok, but it shouldn't affect this specific issue right? I'm just trying to narrow down all possibilities.

Thats the mod list im working with, still enormous tits

[lone dew]

i wouldnt think so

is it all women or just who you showed

[nimble perch]

Let me check

I believe its only elven women

[lone dew]

check random npc elven women too

might be something wrong with the dna

[nimble perch]

Ok, I have more data... super weird, but it does not seem like it affects all elf women, just some...

[lone dew]

i suspect its all the women i put dna in for

but their milkers are nowhere near that large in my game

[nimble perch]

Here we have outlandish. All the Valeriths, and at first glance, all the Serelions

[lone dew]

lmao yep

all mine

[nimble perch]

But then I found a Serelion that wasn't crazy

[lone dew]

this is troubling

[lone dew]

yeah not mine

💀

[nimble perch]

and I found more normal ones

Mostly Thundaraels

[lone dew]

not mine

just to test it, put the game rule for boob traits

and see what happens

[nimble perch]

That fixed it!

[lone dew]

most strange

[nimble perch]

Interesting. I only wanted to use the revealing clothing options you had in your elf tinder posts

I disabled most of the other rules

[lone dew]

yeah it would be great if cbo just had the revealing clothing as a separate mod

[nimble perch]

So good 😭

Yea, everything is back to normal now

[lone dew]

actually you're going to need better barbershop if you want that

that exact clothing i posted

[nimble perch]

They dont even have the said traits that I enabled the game rule for, which is kind of funny

[lone dew]

sometimes they might

if you look around some will have that insane boob size due to the trait

sadly

[nimble perch]

Well, thank you @lone dew

Your characters are amazing! But you already knew that 😉

[lone dew]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-tears-tearyeyed-about-to-cry-gif-4917303

[lime crater]

How do you get such hair color? If I put Elf Destiny after CBO I can only pick vanilla colors of hair and skin

[winged tiger]

it has a mod that allows more hair colors

[runic obsidian]

@lone dew nearly all the time I use a Elf DNA from the Elf Tinder hub they always have the enormes bust size and no hair. This happens at the Charakter Creation before I start the Game. I have the Traits enabled and have the Fix. Do you know what this could cause?

[lone dew]

which dna's

them being bald just happens, you'll have to just apply whatever hair you want

[runic obsidian]

For Example your Sun Elves DNA

[runic obsidian]

ah okay good to know

[lone dew]

you sure you have the right load order? it should be
carnalitas
cbo
cbo patch
elf destiny

[runic obsidian]

Yes

[lone dew]

i'm not really sure then

[runic obsidian]

okay Thanks for trying to help

[lone dew]

does it still happen when you start the game or just character creation

[runic obsidian]

only in Character Creation as far as I know

[lone dew]

These are canon Aeluran Matrons

[nimble perch]

🗣️ drop the outfit names 🗣️

I especially like the headgear and necklaces

Great work as always

We really gotta get these outfits to be default Aelurian clothing

[winged tiger]

I see what item of clothing it is but I don't understand how it came to be dyed

[lone dew]

Uh i forget the name, one of the priest robes or monk or something

It’s towards the bottom of the clothing list

[nimble perch]

Monks robe

[lone dew]

I dyed it red through better barbershop

[lone dew]

These are actually from community flavor pack mod

The screenshot is basically three mods at work

A nicely placed picture for the future aeluran update 😏

[winged tiger]

how ? Idu

[lone dew]

Next to the clothing item name in the list there should be a little color square

I can show you when I’m home if you can’t find it

[winged tiger]

I'll check but I never noticed 🤔

[lone dew]

It’s the same way you dye people’s hair

It’s just at the clothing part

[winged tiger]

OH SHIT I've found

thank's !

[lone dew]

Not everything fully dyes though

[odd portal]

these are not canon clothing

(yeah, you can call me frigid, but these do not feel Aes Sedai and/or Bene Gesserit vibes for me XD)

[lone dew]

Shhhh

[odd portal]

https://tenor.com/90Js.gif

[lone dew]

Might be best if you avoided this channel, there is only darkness here

[odd portal]

Nah, I like to keep myself updated 👀 but I also can't resist to say "nah, it's not canon" (yet ? ) when I see half naked Red Sisters 👀
So... I could avoid it if it's a pain 😅

[lone dew]

lol no it’s ok, Julia Melwood

[odd portal]

https://tenor.com/bg7t9.gif

[nimble perch]

I refuse to believe this 🙈

I always give them thigh high black boots too 😉

[odd portal]

I would have lesser problems with this dress with more options. Like if it wasn't that high on the tights or have this weird circle around the navel 👀
I am all for sexy and provocative, but I love more logic, psychology and facts 😂 I mean, I love Ada Wong's outfits in the Resident Evil, but it's not really realistic to see her run in thin heels on metal platforms with grids 👀 have you ever seen a girl stuck a heel in the street ? That's the same problem 😂 I understand that magic is a part of it, but since the Aeluran Order is mostly inspired by Aes Sedai (Wheel of Time) and Bene Gesserit (Dune) I can't really see the "need" to have them wearing this.
But give me a character created with Lustful and a Valerith background, and I'll bite that. 🤌
Just... not for Red Sisters
(as a matter of fact, I never said anything about Belanor's wifey and she and her sister wear a lot of short dresses with a plunging neckline. 👌 )
(but as a woman, I gotta say... you guys have literally no idea how breasts and neckline work 👀 with those bombs, they wouldn't be able to have a neckline without the boobs bursting it XD)

[untold canopy]

dang why yours is different than mines. like mines is jsut CBO vanilla, couldn't find the whole thing

[nimble perch]

I can prob help you when I get off work

[untold canopy]

which one of the files ya normally choose?

[lone dew]

they download the same mod but from different websites

[untold canopy]

oh

that's why the name is different

i thought i was going crazy because i couldn't find the mod that everyone has

well downloading the first one, i already got the unoffical fix file

[lone dew]

Good

[untold canopy]

i guess i don't need anything else

do i delete the rest of the language beside english?

[lone dew]

just leave them

i mean i guess if you want

[untold canopy]

it won't do anything>

[lone dew]

It wont do anything

[untold canopy]

where do i put down better barber shop?

i assume i need that to get access to things

[lone dew]

are you asking where you put it in the mod list

[untold canopy]

no i mean do i need anything

[untold canopy]

wait i mean yes

[lone dew]

yeah get better barbershop

[untold canopy]

sorry, i'm thinking of 6 different things

[lone dew]

not sure if needed but its a good mod

Character Body Overhaul (CBO)
CBO unofficial patch
Better Barbershop
Elf Destiny

follow this

your confusion ends today

[untold canopy]

oh thanks you

and not yet!

what about Carnalitas? that stay on the top?

[lone dew]

yes

[untold canopy]

alright sweet

i assume i don't need anything else

well than thanks you

[lone dew]

@nimble perch Here we are. All the starting bloodline elves, as well as the Thalwyns and Julia Melwood, are now perfected. Let me know if it doesn't work. Put this mod below both Elf Destiny (I don't think this will work with the Atlantis mod at the moment). Eventually I will see if I can modify the Sister/Matron/High Matriarch traits to automatically switch to revealing clothing. And I also have made it so that all people from the elven cultures spawn with the CBO genes.

I sense steam will not allow this on the workshop, you must take what is inside the zip folder and put it in your documents\paradox interactive\crusader kings III\mod folder

It will not work until you start a new save

The thin line this mod has avoided crossing has now been crossed

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-25608698

[charred river]

The one between love and hate?

[untold canopy]

those of what i have set, add the arouseframe work and CBO comp skeleton

i assume with the CBO compatible skeleton shouldn't affect elf destiny ears much

since they still have vanilla bodies

i think i did it correctly

[lone dew]

As long as you have elf destiny below on the list, it will work

[candid river]

as one of the envoys from the sus sites discord.... do you want me to throw this up on a github for you?

[lone dew]

You can if you'd like

[candid river]

https://github.com/Fiore-Free/CBO-Elf-Destiny-Patch--MARKUS/tree/main --- uploaded here for you, if you want to be added as a contributor give me a shout, ill also announce it over on the other place

[lone dew]

How does one become a contributor

[candid river]

if you have a github account and send me your username ill add you as a contributor, youll then just need to "accept" it

[lone dew]

https://github.com/markus40391

[candid river]

invite sent

[nimble perch]

FYI Balding fix:

#🍻the-great-hall message

[lone dew]

perhaps i should include it in my cbo patch

[candid river]

having just read further the requried fix to run CBO already impliments this

[lone dew]

Wait, what do you mean

[candid river]

CBO currently requires usage of "unoffical cbo fix" to work properly, that fix already implements the no balding thing

[lone dew]

Yeah but I could also add it to my patch so that one doesn't have to edit the unofficial cbo mod too

[mighty canyon]

Uhm, is it still working for everyone? Just asking cuz it sometimes just stops working randomly for me.

[lone dew]

Wym it stops working

[mighty canyon]

Probably something on my end

disregard

[mighty canyon]

Did you make this compatch only for CBO 1.12 Unofficial fix or did you use compatible Skeleton?

[lone dew]

unofficial fix but it shouldn't matter

unsure if the skeleton messes with the genes

[mighty canyon]

I am pretty sure it does. CBO Compatible Sekelton is what is used now for compatibiltiy with EPE and CFP

as well as anything else that adds clothing and new meshes

[lone dew]

i dont use it because i cant seem to get it to work with ust cfp alone

[mighty canyon]

How so? Isn`t there a Cfp CBO Cs compatch?

Here it is

[lone dew]

Yeah but it hides the headgear 2 section of barbershop so i cant see the rest of the headgears

[mighty canyon]

UHm

Have you tried with Better Barbershop CBO compatch?

[lone dew]

i have not

hmm

that might fix it

[mighty canyon]

Try them, otherwise I think we oculd talk to csirke about it

He is literally carrying the community in his back

[lone dew]

Yeah he's a real one

[lone dew]

Im assuming the beta is the newer version?

[mighty canyon]

Beta is for Barbershop Beta

which has more options

Different mods

I also found out that since those geens were missing I think the game rolls the dice and assigns the missing ones something,depending o nthe generated seed, which is why sometimes I get monstrosities and other times normal.

[lone dew]

well either that mod worked or I never realized that the skeleton mod combines the two headgear sections into one

I see what you mean though... with the skeleton mod some of the characters not correct

[lone dew]

Alright so it turns out the better barbershop cbo extension mod messes up my patch

[mighty canyon]

Only the barbershop?

I am pretty sure the CS extensions also change dna

like CFP+EPE CBO CS , etc

[lone dew]

oh i've no clue about EPE

but with just cbo cs cfp it works

[mighty canyon]

Uhmmm

Yeah, because CFP doesn`t mess with genes

I thought your patch worked for EPE too, damn.

[lone dew]

I mean it should work

Even with EPE

[mighty canyon]

Nope, it is missong lots of Dna from it

I will send you a comparison later

[lone dew]

Yes the epe genes will be missing but everyone should still have cbo bodies with my patch

I’ve made the elves perfect

[mighty canyon]

Really? I will show you what I found later, it is not a dig at you or anything, your work is great.

[lone dew]

Wasnt there a patch for epe and elf destiny

[mighty canyon]

The patch is for the EPE portriat designer

As it used to crash

[mighty canyon]

Take a look at this dna compared to the one we have

it is missing a lot because of epe I think

if we could fix it owuld be all set

[lone dew]

That is quite a lot of new genes

[mighty canyon]

Yep....

[mighty canyon]

I did a lot of studying and I think I know why and how portrait editor is breaking

as it would facilitate a lot to use it for the dna string

[mighty canyon]

Good news, I managed to get the ruler designer dna with the epe changes and stuff

bad news is I can't fucking change the culprit which is the weight in the ruler designer

[mighty canyon]

What I will probably do is get the faces as close as possible to the Og's then go for the bodies.

[mighty canyon]

I am so tired of these mods, so much finicky get just to get things barely working is painful D:

[lone dew]

Truth

And don't forget they will all break soon in a few weeks

[charred river]

In 11 days

[mighty canyon]

I already backed up all mods I need

[mighty canyon]

look, I tried, best I oculd do was create a bit 64 decoder for the extra genes from epe and stuff. I think it works, but I am not 100% sure. too tred to think.

[lone dew]

Sounds impressive

Rest now

[mighty canyon]

Inside there is a randomize_dna.py (not mine but the mod creators have it to random the gooner dna)
The invincible.py is to strip all the nonsense from the dna so you can put it on Main.jv

so if it is like eye_color={ 255 30 255 30 }
gene_chin_forward={ "chin_forward_neg" 163 "chin_forward_pos" 130 }
gene_chin_height={ "chin_height_pos" 119 "chin_height_pos" 117 }
gene_chin_width={ "chin_width_neg" 124 "chin_width_neg" 122 }
gene_eye_angle={ "eye_angle_pos" 127 "eye_angle_neg" 120 }
gene_eye_depth={ "eye_depth_neg" 140 "eye_depth_neg" 140 }
gene_eye_height={ "eye_height_neg" 114 "eye_height_neg" 114 }
gene_eye_distance={ "eye_distance_neg" 114 "eye_distance_neg" 114 }
gene_eye_shut={ "eye_shut_neg" 114 "eye_shut_neg" 114 }
gene_forehead_angle={ "forehead_angle_pos" 130 "forehead_angle_neg" 124 }
gene_forehead_brow_height={ "forehead_brow_height_neg" 140 "forehead_brow_height_neg" 140 }
gene_forehead_roundness={ "forehead_roundness_pos" 168 "forehead_roundness_pos" 140 }
gene_forehead_width={ "forehead_width_pos" 130 "forehead_width_pos" 114 }
gene_forehead_height={ "forehead_height_pos" 140 "forehead_height_neg" 114 }
gene_head_height={ "head_height_pos" 138 "head_height_pos" 138 }
gene_head_width={ "head_width_neg" 117 "head_width_pos" 135 }

it will parse it to

"hair_color"
"eye_color"
"gene_chin_forward"

so on and so fort

finaly the main you use the output from it so you have your base geens and can get any of the Base64 bullshit strings paradox gives and put it on the generator

so you run the main.jv select if it is male or female on the terminal (type m or f) and then oyu input the gibberish:

Like this:

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

Results in this (inside message.txt)

So oyu can take the 64 string you have from belanor on one of oyur saves and use it from there on cbo and save a lot of time

best I could do

[lone dew]

damn dude

this is impressive

however

i do not understand it

[mighty canyon]

A lot of stuff was borrowed from other previous work, I just expanded upon it.

I will try to explain a bit later.

[lone dew]

What I believe I understand is that it is just adding the cbo sus genes and allowing it to randomize

as opposed to mine where i have them set statically

[mighty canyon]

You can do that, as you have the sus randomizer, problem is they geenrate a random set for everyone, so they all stay the same.

[lone dew]

but i purposely made them certain exact values because thats what my eyes desired

[mighty canyon]

Yes, which is why I created the alternate

[lone dew]

based

based spaniard

[mighty canyon]

So the idea is, you have the 16 digit string of whatever character you want and you put there, it will give you the approx ruler designer version you can copy and paste into.

The invincible.py is set so as to if you are in another mod that has different genes

say something like gene_bs_elbow

you can simply take any ruler designer character's dna paste there, and have every variable that us ysed by it.

so you will ned up with

"hair_color"
"eye_color"
"gene_bs_elbow"
etc...

You need this to input in the Main.java program

this program takes all these vairables and then decodes the Base64 Dna string.

AAAAABgfGB+RHpEeAYIBggF1AXUAegB6AHgAeACMAIwAcgByAHIAcgByAHIAfAB8AIwAjAGMAYwBcgFyAHIAcgGKAYoBhwGHAXIBcgCMAIwAjACMAHwAfAByAHIBcgFyAXIBcgByAHIAcgByAHIAcgGMAYwAiACIAXIBcgGMAYwBcgFyAHIAcgFyAXIAAgACATkBOQEbARsBBAEEAAMAAwEQARABHwEfAQYBBgEjASMBOQE5ADEAMQG/Ab8A3wDfARcBFwEfAR8BCwELADMAMwFDAUMAogCiAcEBwQAVABUBGwEbAFcAVwBhAGEBUwFTA

This thing here is basically encrypted dna. so each one sets a different value in the ruler designer. So, lets say you have the dna of belanor,victaris,etc. You can take this and put in the machine and it will give you each ruler designer setting and the value set for it.

So you can use it on ruler designer to fix everything you need and go back to playing.

So it is basically a shortcut, instead of manally doing each and every slider, you can use this to have a much bigger leg ahead.

You simply need a savefile with the characters you want and then you can take their game_dna and get their ruler_designer dna

[lone dew]

I do see, I believe

Funny enough I do this somewhat with cheat engine

But cheat engine doesn't let you change the cbo genes because the creater of the cheat engine table for ck3 doesn't use cbo

it just uses the vanilla genes

idk if you've used cheat engine before, but it allows one to change dna within the save

no need for diving into the save file

[mighty canyon]

Yes I have used it

I had the same issue with it because of cbo

[mighty canyon]

I need some testers to make sure this works for CFP+EPE and CFP+EPE+Statues

Or if ti breaks one or the other.

[lone dew]

what's statues

[foggy mauve]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3249896678

[lone dew]

I had no idea about this mod

[cursive pond]

Any chance of an updated CBO patch? The new Carnalitas 2.7 is out, and the new CBO Unofficial is also out and working.

[lone dew]

Not yet, I haven't played yet

Is it patch broken?

Are the starting elves bodies not perfected?

[cursive pond]

My elves look good in game. I'm not using your patch because I assumed it would not work, since the basegame skeleton changed and csirke128 had to redo CBO Compat Skeleton (now called CBO Unofficial).

[lone dew]

Yeah I saw that

Which I'm glad for

Combining it simplifies things

I might start playing it this week, we shall see

[cursive pond]

There's a patch for AEP+CBO on LL (on the CBO Unofficial page). Dropped on 12/5.

[cursive pond]

Don't use the old CBO. Everything you need is literally on the CBO Unofficial page. The mod author @cksirke did the patch for the old CBO and created the new CBO Unofficial.

[cursive pond]

Is that new? All my matrons are going to be scantily clad in red riding hood outfits? I suspect it's a mind jedi trick to get me to give them more temples. Which shows how smart the bene gesserit . . . . uh, I mean red witches. . . actually are.

[winged tiger]

I can't find it, what keywords should I use to find it?

[mighty canyon]

On CBO Unofficial, click on download and it should be one of them.

[lone dew]

yes that is of course nice

the guy who picked up cbo is based but sadly he isn't able to make revealing clothing for the new stuff

only the original had the skills

[cursive pond]

Didn't realize that. So all the revealing clothing is based off the old vanilla models that the original CBO author skimpified?

[lone dew]

yeah what's his name, mange or something

which is funny because apparently mange is a lawyer irl

a lawyer who made this massive ck3 mod

had the skills to code and use blender

[cursive pond]

We need to reach out to some talented 3d modelers and get them to do some pro bono elf clothing sets for the red sisters. Unfortunately they aren't in my little black book.

[lone dew]

doing 3d stuff would be my end goal here for sure

its also tempting to just port over some agot and lotr stuff to here

like the hairstyles for example, the vanilla and any new stuff need to accommodate the elf ears so they arent piercing through

the clipping bothers me

[cursive pond]

Is there any bar to porting clothing over other than asking permission as a courtesy? It's all really open source if the assets are on Steam or Nexus, because any mod posted on Steam or Nexus is subject to the clickwrap licensing agreements that give Steam, Nexus, and any gaming company (e.g., Paradox) a royalty-free unlimited lifetime non-exclusive license to do whatever they want with the assets. That was what caused a stink on Nexus a year ago (or maybe two) now, when a bunch of well known modders actually looked at the terms and conditions and went "WTF, are you kidding me? I'm doing this for free and losing my IP rights at the same time? No thank you, I'm out."

The clipping is annoying, agreed. There are only a handful of hairstyles that really work well with elf ears. Would it be a nightmare to port over something like KS Hairs from Skyrim, with 500+ different hairstyles?

[lone dew]

I'm sure I would be able to take what I desire but we are asking for a lot here, it isn't the same as stealing the same code or whatever

Plus that's up to East, not I

Unless I did a submod

But man even bringing stuff over would be a lot of work no doubt

[cursive pond]

Not encouraging stealing other folks work. Asking permission is always the polite way to go.

[lone dew]

That I do not know, the only stuff I've seen people port over from skyrim are tattoos

[dry niche]

Is there a compatch for just CBO and ED? I don't want to install EPE because the tits look wonky when I do the CBO+ED+CFP+EPE compatch

[cursive pond]

Yes there is. Same place, from a few weeks ago.

[golden ivy]

New here so apologies if this is the wrong place to put it since it's not 100% CBO related. Has anybody tested adding Regula Magistri to the mix? Was running Carnalitas + CBO + CFP + Statues with a few Carnalitas submods like Regula without issues before adding ED. After adding ED, I seem to get stuck in heir limbo once I'm an elf and also Magister of the Regula where none of my children are eligible as heirs any more and I can't figure out why. I've got ED and the ED + CBO patch between CBO Unofficial and Better Barbershop CBO in my load order. Other than the heir issue, everything else seems to be workingg normally.

[cursive pond]

I haven't played since mid-December (b/c out of town) but I always add Regula to the mix along with ED and SD2. Really need to play three rulers for it to work -- (1) Thaleia from SD2 until you can summon Lilith from hel; (2) then flip to Norse ruler who starts the ED questline and accepts the Aelurans; and (3) another Norse jarl who finds the book and becomes the Magister. It's pretty fun, but also pretty involved.

[dreamy geyser]

Hey I read through the chat history but wanted to make sure I have the right idea for mod list order (just ignore things you don't want to use):

CFP
EPE
CFP + EPE Patch
Carnalitas
CBO Unofficial Base
CFP CBO Base Patch
Statues OF CK3
Statues OF CK3 - EPE Compatibility Patch
Better Barbershop
[Better Barbershop CBO Expansion] (#1206320883359162368 message)
Elf Destiny
[Eld Destiny CBO Patch + CFP + EPE + Statues](#1206320883359162368 message)
[Insert fan made Elf Destiny mods here, like elven abdication, etc]

Does this sound right?

[mighty canyon]

Do notnuse my patch

It is made for 1.12

Right now statues and cfp+epe are orked for cbo if you use ED

[cursive pond]

As @Generalissimo said, the statues mod is borked. Apparently they aren't plannig to do a CFP patch for whatever reason.

[hazy grail]

so is there any patch for simply CBO+Elf Destiny or is it unnecessary?

[hazy grail]

nevermind

[true zinc]

Does this still work?

[true zinc]

For the characters visuals

[flat hearth]

I am wondering if anyone has a court room issue when using CBO with the animations and mesh? As in it's stuck in the bed view and you can't do court interactions as a result

[mighty canyon]

That is very weird, usually happens when you have something out of date or one of the meshes is broken

[flat hearth]

It's specifically the elven aesthetic court rooms. SO for example, If I choose another character with a different court room aesthetic, going to the royal court loads normally. But specifically (from what i've tested so far) with Seraphina's court, it just shows a view of a bedroom. I am using CBO and I THINK I have my load orders right, but I'm kind of running out of options.

[mighty canyon]

Does she have a special courtroom?

Can you check for other court rooms from other cultures?

Also, what CBO mods are oyu using?

[flat hearth]

I checked other cultures, I think it's something to do with her courtroom being mediterranean

I'm using CBO unofficial with animations and mesh.

I'm wondering if I have something wrong with my patching and load order.

[mighty canyon]

Send me a screenshot and i can take a look

[flat hearth]

Here

Thanks for taking a look by the way

[mighty canyon]

Ok, I can see a few issues already

[flat hearth]

Oh noo

[mighty canyon]

Firstly, Lazy is not compatible with EPE

[flat hearth]

patch out of date?

[mighty canyon]

Yes, if I recall it is a fan patch

[flat hearth]

Okay, I can remove that.

Oh wait there is a patch that's in May

OH specifically lazy is not compatible with epe

[mighty canyon]

Yes

[flat hearth]

Are there any other issues with the load order?

[mighty canyon]

Not that I can see.

This is what I just tested and worked fine

Big portraits could also cause it if it messes with courts

[flat hearth]

Hmmmm okay. I'll try with lazy removed, then try with big portraits removed as well

Man, I really like that armor too.

[mighty canyon]

I also do, unfortunately sometimes it isnt meant to be 🙁

But maybe you can learn blender and fix it for ux ;D

[flat hearth]

HAHA lol

Well I didn't really notice any issues when I was using lazys. But after this loads I'll see if removal of lazy fixed it

WOAH IT MADE IT WORSE

[mighty canyon]

ho

how

[mighty canyon]

Ah this is because you have a previous version in the load menu

this is normal

you cant play with the previous save

All of the meshes and stuff get loaded when the game starts

[flat hearth]

DO I need to del all my saves?

[mighty canyon]

No

You just cant use them

Or it will crash

[flat hearth]

Ok, I moved the saves. I'll restart game and see if it works

[mighty canyon]

Oh oyu dont need to restart or move them at all

[flat hearth]

Really appreciating the help so far by the way,

[mighty canyon]

jsut start a new game and everything is fine

[flat hearth]

Characters are like

green

Okay so with the load order I used from you, removed big portraits and lazy. Seraphina still specifically her court just shows the bed

I think it's that particular courtroom used. Is there a file I could edit to change the aesthetic of an elven culture, specifically what throne room is loaded?

[mighty canyon]

Sorry I fell asleep

4 am for me

I would suggest downloading those CBO files to make sure

Again

It makes no sense it worked for me and not you

And we had same load order

[flat hearth]

HA, they were updated just an hour ago

i'll redownload

[flat hearth]

So I redownloaded the files.

Even deleted cache, still running into the same issue. It has to be something really minor,

Did you specifically try to go into Seraphina's throne room to test out whether you're getting the same issue?

[flat hearth]

At this point I've been on this since last night trying to fix it. I'm going to just play without using the court and just go into debug to run court options when needed.

[mighty canyon]

Yes, I did.

This is really weird, sorry I couldnt fix it

[flat hearth]

It's all good. So, for you the court room works just fine huh. But for me it's not.

[mighty canyon]

Yep

[flat hearth]

Load order is the same, validated files. Something is causing a court room overlap somewhere. I'm out of ideas here. Either way. I appreciate all the help you've done since last night. Thank you. I will figure this out eventully.

[flat hearth]

@mighty canyon sorry to tag but I made some progress. I believe it's a DLC issue. I turned all DLC off and now the court works fine.

So now I think I'll test and turn each DLC back on one by one to see where the issue lies.

[flat hearth]

YUP! I figured it out. It's the Khans Of The Steppe DLC causing a court conflict.

[mighty canyon]

Weird

I have the dlc

[flat hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-what-the-hell-what-the-fuck-huh-what-gif-16553984

What the actual F.

[coral bloom]

hey is the epe cbo patch or the cfp+epe cbo patch updated ?

[mighty canyon]

With ED no

[coral bloom]

without ED ?

[mighty canyon]

Elf Destiny. The CFP+EPE+ED Packs dont work

the pure EDs do

[slow garden]

Where can I download the latest compatibility patch? My game crashes when I switch to face settings in the ruler editor.

[mighty canyon]

On the same place as before in LL? I think the ruler designer crash is something that happens with only ED as well as the designer hates the elf ears somehow

[cursive pond]

Sucks that Ruler Designer won't change the ears, but you can change the ears to elf ears (any type) or human in Barbershop after character creation.

[slow garden]

About a day later, I found a patch in LL and the ruler editor problem went away. But instead, I had a problem with grand weddings being cancelled for no reason.

[mighty canyon]

Which patch?

[slow garden]

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/32269-cfp-cbo-patch/ Elf Destiny - CFP+EPE+ED CBO Patch

But my current problem doesn't seem to be related to ED, since even without it, my weddings and meetings for those from the LMF mod are cancelled.