#Support is bis now thanks guys you should take away all gear drop and make sure new guy get a trophy

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tranquil plover
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So when are you guys gonna take away all combat

fresh tusk
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Sorry to hear you miss ur empty hell lobbies for easy loot.

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It really does suck when there's a little challenge when looting :(

tranquil plover
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They weren't empty I was still playing plenty of games why are trying to defend this shit dude do you even play at all

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If you do does it not bother you in the slightest

fresh tusk
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I only run hell

tranquil plover
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Prolly in support only

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That way you don't have to risk it

fresh tusk
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Oh yea been running support in hell since season 1

tranquil plover
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And can only profit

fresh tusk
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Send them back to lobby

tranquil plover
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That was never supposed to be the point of the game to slap on support gear and try to kill the teams that aren't support

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Get em out they shouldn't be there

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And just how far north of 650 till I stop seeing them

fresh tusk
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You act like hell was popping off. It was being ran by 750+ gear score players

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And Asians who team

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It was not fun

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Hell has always been dead more than active

tranquil plover
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Grind it up like we did it isn't always fun for us either but it was exciting

fresh tusk
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Was no in-between

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Either dead lobby or fight top 10

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Or get teamed

tranquil plover
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You can't possibly to expect to pick up a game that LITERALLY has to reset out of necessity every month or two MID SEASON and expect to be able to play the end game content if y'all want that go play world of earcraft

tranquil plover
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No support gear in lobbies for those of us "try hards" bc we enjoy the risk of losing or profiting when we play a match and no risk for the new players so they can learn combat and game mechanics before trying to play with those that are actually playing for keeps

tranquil plover
fresh tusk
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That's why lobbies are divided by gs and skill

tranquil plover
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You know what fine make it support only lobby that way they can't get destroyed and I can't be third parties by homie running no risk to my high risk

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Bc that isnt working

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Should have done that to nm as well that's where the problem stems from

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In hard I can have 56 agi 25 str and 32 vigor and still run at 310 ms weapons and im at 500 GS

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Make the lobby separate new players aren't optimizing gear stats like we are we are hunting the proper stats for our class while new guys where's legendary gear that would be better used in collection bc no one is going to buy it or use it that know what they are looking at as far as stats just bc the GS is really high on that legendary shield doesn't make it good

fresh tusk
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Again we keep coming back to the fact that even with ur bis you'll lost to support timmies?

coarse latch
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It honestly sounds like a lot of decent players are making it to hell lobbies now and fighting these guys and winning. Where before they could not afford to do it. Imagine being this mad that you’re losing to ‘inferior’ players

fresh tusk
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I can't fathom how a 650 is losing to 520

tranquil plover
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Nope not yet man but that third party is coming at some point for alot of people

fresh tusk
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Especially if you worked hard

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3rd partying is gonna happen

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There isn't a way to stop it

tranquil plover
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That's fine

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If it happens it happens nature of the game but don't let support gear do it to me

fresh tusk
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Bro that's the only advantage they have

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Every other category/stat you stomp

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And it's not even cheesy

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Good on them for being patient

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It's playing tactical

tranquil plover
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No it's playing with absolutely no risk so you can dive bomb people and take all their shit while they have to deal with dumbass that isn't risking snything

fresh tusk
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I had a guy bum rush me in hell fighting lich. Killed my friend and pushed me out of the boss room. He died because he didn't wait long enough.

tranquil plover
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Now or when he could lose something for making that mistake

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Hell mode was the setting where the decision actually mattered and you had to be picky about your gear I get that they want to play and it's really hard for them bc we are jumpy and will kill a team before I lose my gear but don't put us in the same lobby if your not risking anything and I am

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Thats not right

fresh tusk
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Expect NM doesn't drop legendary or uniques. So all the timmies would have to survive the timmies stompers to scrap together enough gs to get into hell. Now they get in and get stomped by 750 gs.

tranquil plover
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If they are in a support lobby that cant get smashed by gear diif

fresh tusk
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You seems to only care about how this affects you personally and not the player base.

tranquil plover
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I'm in epic only set

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Your right but it's not just me forgive me for not really wanting to cater to some that doesn't put in the time that other do

fresh tusk
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A simple suggestion of a higher difficulty in a respectful thread would have been great! Instead of this. Also giving actually helpful suggestions to go with the idea is also very much wanted.

tranquil plover
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I did that a little earlier respectfully

fresh tusk
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Ok great! So why the angry post to muddle and bury the other posts?

tranquil plover
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Bc a lot of us are angry

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Your not a dev it's not really focused at you my guy honestly this is just the closest thing to official we can get and you guys are the only face most of us get to see when it comes to the devs

tranquil plover
# fresh tusk Ok great! So why the angry post to muddle and bury the other posts?

I think the best way to fix this with a community wide solution would be to give us a no risk and a high risk setting new players can play no risk for a little while where then don't lose gear and it doesn't punish them as much and high risk for us that have been playing bc we enjoy that kind of emersion but I do see where y'all are coming from with the older players beating newer ones bc we don't want to lose our gear ourselves and then not being able to progress this just had me heated

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I personally do not play nm anymore and I feel the pain of new players trying to finish main quest line having to go there

nimble nymph
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The supp gear in heck is honestly overhated. Either you’re not even gonna have to worry abt it since you’ll be matched with people of similar gear score, or in the event you do see one, you’ll kill them easily and get whatever loot they’ve already collected before you. Those supp gear people still risk rank points and obviously time bein wasted after dying, though not much, is still something notable…

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If you don’t wanna lose op gear to a supp gear, don’t get skill diffed or don’t go into it w/o having enough sands of time or plat coins…

tranquil plover
nimble nymph
sterile plinth
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I don’t think this is the end of the world I’m glad it’s encouraging players to try hell and it will be replacing bot teams with support teams

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At first I hated it but I let it sit for a day and I’m glad they did it

nimble nymph
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I had mixed feelings at first but I don’t think it’ll change much for the higher gs lobbies except that matchmaking will be faster. It’s definitely a net positive change.

pearl cloak
# tranquil plover Its still matching us at 650

I agree. I feel like hell shouldnt allow support users in. Its like going in a casino with nothing to gamble , which is dumb. Nightmare exists but i feel like hell should be that high RISK high reward mode

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And it was that mode but these crappy devs arent focusing on whats needed

tranquil plover
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This is exactly what happened to nm to the letter

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Hell didn't exist part of pre season 1 we had normal hard and NM

pearl cloak
tranquil plover
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When it comes to hell and how a lot of top players play we aren't playing the same game

pearl cloak
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which is what hell was supposed to be tbh

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Death mode? 💀

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lol

tranquil plover
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Thank you that's all give us setting that allows new players to progress and they aren't punished as much for dying and give us ours where it punishes you for making mistakes that's how we liked it

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As it stands a support gear player can risk absolutely nothing and stands to gain it all and that would be ok if it was actually new players but it's not it's some dude that is just as strong as I am as far as collection and character level and just as skilled he will get lucky and that's all it takes

pearl cloak
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Exactly

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I hate that. Thats an ass gamble

tranquil plover
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That's a fools bet

pearl cloak
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As a fully geared dude you stand to gain maybe a little more money

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But these supports just gotta get one kill

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Slither io shit tbh

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Lol

tranquil plover
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Nope I don't care about gold I can get it off mobs I care about them being able to run something griefer style and not even have to fight you if they can let the mobs kill you

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Savage roar barb with undying and and a resurrection cleric with protection and bind

pearl cloak
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Dude

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Thats exactly the issue

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Bro they can run with undying

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And kill a fully geared player💀

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This is ass

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They need to fix hell

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Or add a new option

tranquil plover
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Bind you to mobs you die barb runs in with protection spell roar I dying loot die res barb and all your gear is still in his bag @safe vale @fresh tusk this is the kind of thing I had in mind when I saying support gear is a danger a moveset like this and suddenly I'm getting meeting jesus they fail they can just put it back on and try again with total impunity until until they succeed

pearl cloak
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ouch

tranquil plover
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And I guarantee every other player that isn't playing casual has this method already thought out it took me a total of 15 seconds to figure out this moveset would be a big problem with the current setting

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End game content is end game this game is just really grindy to get there but once you do it's not the same game rogues moving at 310 plus weapons out 60 AGI 25 str 32 vigor and none of it is legendary but you have to play to get there shouldn't punish me for understanding the assignment

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I've grinded my rogues gear with a fine tooth comb optimizing stats until my kit didn't have a single stray stat point that's my hell kit and I know I will lose it one day but not in a highstake my part no risk on yours deathmatch and you can't lose

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You could let the swarm kill me and you still win even tho you didn't get my stuff

tranquil plover
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Almost died to support barb with war maul running risa only reason we got away is bc he didn't use zwei not have any movement abilities

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This is crazy guys lol

naive island
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getting skill diffed by low GS players is a part of the game and has been since PC

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nothing new

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same restrictions, you have to be level 20 (22, 24, on mobile?idr)

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but its damn near getting in for free. and your rank is only for high roller on pc, so earning the gold required for getting in is potentially risk free, or not, but thats on you

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not a big deal it just brings the game closer to PC's gameplay loop

tranquil plover
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I just would like to have one where people gotta actually play and not just rush when we had to invest something people played tactical and made logical choices not aggro every mob and try to parade pass that's not cool even if we die together he still wins bc he was in the free stuff and can try it again in the next match the game just had more emersion to it that way

tranquil plover
# naive island remember in pc you can go into high roller naked for only 100 gold. (which can b...

I have never played PC version bro this is an all new experience and so far I enjoy it I don't agree with some things bc it's weird rogues that freeze dropping little fire puddles that don't hurt yourself and make it almost impossible for any other class to deal with it maybe I am getting skill gapped but I know I'm surviving a lot more of my matches and people do tend to back up when we do fight it's a great game

naive island