more equipment slots

[cloud umbra]

instead of just having a singular equipment slot that ends up being occupied by either a Spinjutsu Scroll or one of the Hero abilities why not split it into 3 separate slots? there could be a "dodge" slot for anything that changes up your dodge (I.E. Spinjutsu Scrolls or the Hero dodge abilities), a "power" slot for the Rifter Ripper and Shadow Caller damage boost abilities (or any others that get added later on), and a "misc" slot for the Illuminator so you don't have to sacrifice having an ability just to see in caves or other dark areas

[analog perch]

feel like it wouldnt work cause in most controlers u dont have extra buttons for that

[astral tendon]

Controller u have left and right bumpers so Controller players got no issue with more slots

[analog perch]

But theyre all in use

[cloud umbra]

the only button that's actually affected by the ability items is your dodge button, the Rift Ripper and Shadow Caller have two ability items: a dodge and something that boosts the damage of their hero weapon, I'm suggesting to let us use BOTH at the same time, and of course you can't use a Spinjutsu Scroll and a Hero dodge item at the same time, and the Illuminator (or similar items that may get added later on) will have their own "misc" slot

basically you can have a Spinjutsu Scroll/Hero dodge, Rift Ripper or Shadow Caller damage boost, and the Illuminator equipped at the same time

that's what I mean with this suggestion, not having to choose between having an ability or having a light source that works when using two-handed weapons

[analog perch]

Ooooohhh now i understand thats nice

but they would have to buff the rift ripper and shadow caller cause even if they added that i wouldnt add it with that damage

[silk latch]

At the very least, give the Illuminator its own slot

[analog perch]

Yes

[cloud umbra]

yeah, at the end of the day I want to be able to see where the heck I'm going in a grasslands or ice cave without having to sacrifice the improved mobility of a Spinjutsu Scroll

[plain cloak]

Nah i think it's more healthy for fhe game to make you choose equipment instead of just putting all of it without a single thought

[cloud umbra]

at least let us equip the Illuminator at the same time

plus you'll still have to choose between a Spinjutsu Scroll or one of the Hero dodge abilities

[plain cloak]

You can eat a burger/pepper, or use fire scroll, or use torches. There are many alternatives available and if you're not using them that doesn't mean they should simplify the gameplay

[cloud umbra]

still, the Illuminator needs its own slot, I shouldn't have to carry around a specific food item to see in the dark

[plain cloak]

The whole point of it is that you can't put everything you want so you have to choose. Every time i go to caves in my expert world, i have to choose between light or extra damage from spinjitsu, it's healthier for the game

[plain cloak]

You literally should carry an extra item to see in the dark, and as i said you can just take torches or use fire spinjitsu which Has illumantoion effect.

You need to carry something extra to see in the dark irl as well lol

[cloud umbra]

the Illuminator needs its own slot PERIOD

[plain cloak]

You're just lazy bro

[cloud umbra]

no. I'm not

[plain cloak]

You have so many way's to see in the dark besides using illumator , some better some worse and instead of adapting you just want another slot specifically so you don't have to think

Bro it's just one slot in inventory it cannot be that wasteful 💀

[cloud umbra]

we need a dedicated slot for the Illuminator, end of discussion

tbh they shouldn't have reworked food the way they did anyways

[plain cloak]

Okay... Why?
No really, why does second slot for illumator is needed when there are so many other options, and how do you add that without making these options obsolete

[plain cloak]

I really liked it but deleting hunger was unnecessary, i think hunger + effects would be really cool and make people choose between something that gives nice effects and good saturation

[cloud umbra]

the burger and pepper shouldn't have been given a glowing effect in the first place

[plain cloak]

But now it can

And there is a fire scroll and torch shaped elephant in the room you're ignoring

[cloud umbra]

not to mention that the Snowberry Shake should've remained the Snowberry Shake, not be turned into a potion that doesn't do what it used to

[cloud umbra]

can't use a torch if you have a two-handed weapon

[plain cloak]

I really don't care about their texture, i just miss hunger

[cloud umbra]

and I don't use the elemental scrolls either, I'm waiting for them to add an improved version of the non-elemental one

[plain cloak]

Yea, that's called a trade off

[plain cloak]

So you want another slot because you don't want to use alternative's?

I don't want to fight bosses so they need to add a chest with boss loot ASSAP

[cloud umbra]

no, I want another slot because the Illuminator is something that we shouldn't have to give up

[cloud umbra]

that's not what I'm saying

[plain cloak]

Why? You're just saying this stuff like it's a fact but it's not , there is other options so you don't have to give up everything, you actively try to not use other options/ like them less , but that doesn't mean it's needed

[plain cloak]

I know but I'm trying to get into that logic

[cloud umbra]

the Illuminator NEEDS its own slot

[plain cloak]

W H Y

[cloud umbra]

so that we can see in the dark!

[plain cloak]

This is a rage bait i cannot deal with that anymore

[cloud umbra]

it's not rage bait, I'm being completely serious here, if nothing else the Illuminator needs a slot of its own

it already takes quite a bit of effort to actually craft

so why not reward that effort with a light source that we'll always have (provided we don't die on a world with backpack dropping enabled)

nothing you can say will change my mind about this

[plain cloak]

...
Illuminator is good because it's a versatile item useful practically throughout the whole gameplay, that's why there needs to be competition. And it's competition is good because each one has own drawback:
-illuminator takes your equipment slot so you cannot use stronger ones
-peppers and burgers need a slot in inventory and are only for a time
-torch needs to use second hand or when thrown doesn't follow you
-fire scroll makes you again not use stronger equipment in that place but it's a good compromise.
And because of that all of these are useful in their own right, and just because you don't like using alternatives doesn't mean the item you like should be buffed so much that other's become useless

[plain cloak]

Your effort is rewarded with an item called illuminator and it lets you see in the dark when you have it equiped in equipment slot i hope that helps 👍

[plain cloak]

I'm not trying to change your mind but I'm trying to say why i don't agree with it

And it's not for you but for everyone in this thread

[cloud umbra]

can't believe you wasted so much time typing out a bunch of nonsense

[plain cloak]

I knew it was rage bait, enjoy your day bro

[cloud umbra]

again: not rage bait, I am completely serious

[cloud umbra]

I don't rage bait

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

I'm being serious, I don't rage bait

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

ok, now you're the one who's ragebaiting

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

childish

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

is that all that's left in your vocabulary?

[plain cloak]

Yes.

[cloud umbra]

like I said, childish

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

the more you say that the more childish you're acting

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

man, you really are being childish, it's almost pathetic

[plain cloak]

can't believe you wasted so much time typing out a bunch of nonsense

[cloud umbra]

hey, you were the one who wasted your time with that huge paragraph earlier

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

idc about whatever excuses you came up with to not add a dedicated Illuminator slot, I think the game needs one

[plain cloak]

You can't even come up with one argument for adding it besides of your laziness bro

[cloud umbra]

I'm not lazy though

[plain cloak]

Nu uh

[cloud umbra]

the Illuminator is hard enough to get, we shouldn't have to choose between it or a Spinjutsu Scroll

[plain cloak]

Beacuse your lazy butt cannot take a second to change it between combat and mining, or better yet, using fire scroll that has abilities of illuminator

[cloud umbra]

I told you I don't use the elemental scrolls, and it's not being lazy, it's just preferring to not have to pick an element, if there was higher tier non-elemental scrolls I'd use those

plus the Spinjutsu Scrolls also give you better mobility for actually exploring the caves

the Illuminator needs SOMETHING to make it worth using, even if it's just giving it its own slot

[plain cloak]

Yes you did, but why does it matter to the population? You not using it is personal choice, so if you're actively losing at the fact you're not using them it doesn't mean they should buff items you're using , but for you to reconsider what you're doing

[plain cloak]

Yea that's why i take my earth scroll and eat a burger when i go mining because i like this mobility

[plain cloak]

It is worth using , just because you can't have it mindlessly 24/7 doesn't make it worse, it's still the second best lighting item in the game(besides fire spinjitsu which is really an upgrade)

[cloud umbra]

the Illuminator still needs to have its own slot, or at the very least a way to unlock an extra equipment slot, we have yet to get masteries for Odyssey itself after all

[plain cloak]

And you're going to say something along the lines of "I'm not gonna use it"/"they still need to add illuminator slot" and not remotely touch my arguments like a little lazy butt you are

[cloud umbra]

I'm not lazy

[plain cloak]

Pretyped it btw you're predictable as heck

[cloud umbra]

I just want to be able to use the HARD TO GET LIGHT SOURCE without having to give up my Spinjutsu Scroll

[plain cloak]

Then use fire spinjitsu scroll, devs literally added option like that for you and you're not choosing it because, you're not using it

You're literally making a problem for yourself for no reason and being mad about it

[cloud umbra]

because I don't want to pick an element, it's why I only use the Power Relics for my weapons, I'd rather do normal damage to everything than lose damage because an enemy is of an element that resists mine

[plain cloak]

I don't wanna use weapon's that's why i fight every enemy with fists and I'm angry that i cannot deal enough damage, we need major fist buff ASSAP

You see how this sounds?

[cloud umbra]

also fyi you didn't need to say anything about my suggestion

[cloud umbra]

I don't fight barehanded though

[plain cloak]

The whole point of threads to these suggestions is for players to give their own opinion, so i decided to share mine

[plain cloak]

If you did would you make suggestions about buffing figthing barehanded?

[cloud umbra]

I wouldn't be fighting barehanded in the first place, as a matter of fact prior to Epic ruining the Lightsabers by removing their recharge with the recent rework I'd use them to take out spiders or scorpions without wasting the durability of one of my normal weapons

[plain cloak]

Exactly, you wouldn't be locking yourself out of the gameplay in the first place. So why are you mad that if you lock yourself from element spinjitsu scroll there isn't something added thst would work almost the same way as the stuff you're locking yourself out of on your own

[cloud umbra]

again: I don't want to have to pick a specific element

[plain cloak]

And again: because you're locking yourself out of the choosing element on your own you get problems that don't exist for people that don't do that

[cloud umbra]

there's still no harm in adding a dedicated slot for the Illuminator, even if it's locked behind new masteries for Odyssey itself

[plain cloak]

Literally there is harm i talked about earlier, there is so many illumator alternatives and adding it would hurt all of them making them useless

[cloud umbra]

give the peppers and burgers a better effect then

plus torches are still used for thrusters on Airships or Hovercrafts

[plain cloak]

And fire scroll and torches?

[plain cloak]

Yea but we taking about using them to light stuff around you and not building, I'm talking still about light around you mechanic

[cloud umbra]

by the time you're able to get the Illuminator you really shouldn't need torches for light anymore anyways

[plain cloak]

It's literally you after deciding not to use item that literally fixes your problem because you just don't want to

[plain cloak]

And that's a problem because it makes one item obsolete, that's why they decided to do this thing called "balance" and make illumator have competition

[cloud umbra]

is balance really necessary in a mode not made for PvP?

[plain cloak]

Yea because if the game is unbalanced it isn't fun no matter if it's pvp, pve.
If every enemy would one shoot you it wouldn't be fun because it's unbalanced, if placing one brick would take hour and be expensive it wouldn't be fun because price and time wouldn't be balanced to thing you get, etc

Balance is way more than how much your numbers you and enemies do

[cloud umbra]

some people like the feeling of being unstoppable

also it's just a light source, what are you getting so worked up over?

[plain cloak]

Then they can turn off elimination on their world and summon themselves 8 star weapon's I'm not having a problem with them

[plain cloak]

I don't care about light source but your takes, you're ignoring already existed solutions in game and cry about the fact there isn't an easy way that let's you live in this bubble of yours bro

[cloud umbra]

again, they could've given the peppers and burgers a better effect, or better yet not have reworked food in the first place!!!

[plain cloak]

Yea , they could rework 4 item's for your sake and buff one drastically without drawbacks, or you could just accept that if uou don't want to use spinjutsu with a light(fire scroll )you're not getting spinjitsu with a light

That's a hard one huh

[cloud umbra]

again, there's nothing you can say that will change my mind, we need a slot for the Illuminator, and potentially other utility equipment they may add later on

you're just wasting your time trying to argue

[plain cloak]

I understood that there isn't anything that will change your mind the first time you ignored my argument, No we do not we have many alternatives for it, if other equipments be added you're gonna be sad cause you won't have 10 slots each for different equipment

[plain cloak]

Of course i do, but I'm having a blast, it's hard to find someone as ignorant these days

[cloud umbra]

I'm not ignorant

[plain cloak]

Sure , it's not like whatever i say would change your opinion on it as well

[cloud umbra]

you know, this argument wouldn't have happened had you just went "whatever you say" after I asserted the Illuminator needs its own slot rather than trying to argue that it's "healthier" that it doesn't

at the end of the day this isn't some hyper competitive game where a buff like this would completely mess everyone up

[plain cloak]

But I didn't because I like discussing things with people especially if i have different views than them, and you really like throwing things like these as the facts even though you never really get more into why (like that it it's healthier for a game to make you choose rather than stacking everything without a thought or reason)

[plain cloak]

It would mess 4 items up that's why I even argue in the first place

[cloud umbra]

I just want to be able to see without having to give up my Spinjutsu Scroll or having to remember to reapply the glowing effect

again: peppers and burgers could be given a different effect, torches are still useful for thrusters and would be obsolete as a light source once you got the Illuminator anyways, plus why give such a weak effect to the long awaited Fire Spinjutsu Scrolls anyways?

[plain cloak]

Then use the fire scroll,an intended item for such Inconveniences as yours. And if you don't want to that's fine, but if you're not choosing it it's your own problem

[cloud umbra]

again, I don't want to use an elemental scroll

they need to add higher tier non-elemental scrolls already

[plain cloak]

Burger's and peppers: yeah but why rework entire system that works? Torches are useful outside of it and that's fine, and i actually find fire scroll the second best scroll behind earth one, i swap it out with it when i go mining because i can make choices and not cry that my earth one cannot have free light on top of it

[plain cloak]

You're choice, but at least have courage to deal with consequences of it

[plain cloak]

That's the only thing i can agree with you Right now, I don't see a reason why there isn't more of them

[cloud umbra]

wait, I just had a thought, what if we could put the Illuminator in our off-hand and have it work even if we have a two-handed weapon out

it's not like we'd need to throw the thing like a torch anyways

that way there's still a drawback: you can't put a potion or other healing item in your offhand for quick healing

[plain cloak]

That's actually not a bad idea

[cloud umbra]

plus it could serve as a toggle of sorts, letting us "use" the Illuminator to turn it on and off

sorta like how you wouldn't always keep your flashlight on in games that have one

[plain cloak]

And that would actually be balanced , i like it

[cloud umbra]

of course it's a shame that shields were rendered obsolete because of the Nunchucks and other weapons that have an innate block/parry

like who even uses a normal sword or spear anymore anyways?

[astral tendon]

Holy yap u have to scroll up for like 1 minute just to find the post

Y couldn't you just go to dms

[plain cloak]

Nah bro it's cooler to talk here

[plain cloak]

True, Shields no only break way quicker but also aren't useful at later stages of the game

[cloud umbra]

not to mention that they don't have access to the Honed materials

at least the basic weapons are still viable damage-wise because they can use the Honed materials

[plain cloak]

Sadly so do star wars blasters and superhero weapons , i hate that dome item's are not available in 5star+ variants

[cloud umbra]

agreed

this update should've included "tuned" variations of the Star Wars blasters that are 5*+

heck for that matter the Musket and Flint-Knock should be reworked into modular weapons

also we kinda lost the subject here

[plain cloak]

Coming back to subject while still talking about this, i really like to discus things like that because if devs just add better things without balance we are left with things like these

Being usable because of lack of care or straight up better variant in every way

[analog perch]

In my opinion that would make the game way easier and they already took out hunger which made the game way easier
Also we have like 9 item slots having a torch wont destroy u

[analog perch]

I agreee with this