#shield breaking

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jagged holly
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please

noble seal
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i disagree on this one my friend

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"Know your enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster." - Sun Tzu

solemn igloo
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The only way this could work is if they make a cheaper shield. Don't know how much the shield will cost in the full release but it is possible for an expendable option.

opal apex
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A Sun tzu quote is crazy lmao. What are you even meaning by the quote. I feel like shields having some form of being able to have parts chipped off could be cool though. Adds some form of strategy instead of being able to just fully block everything forever

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opal apex
surreal rapids
opal apex
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Oh 🤦‍♂️

surreal rapids
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Although I find the idea of shield breaking really cool

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In medieval/ancient warfare, there were shields designed to break so they would lock their opponent's weapon

noble seal
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from a gameplay standpoint while it is a cool idea the rounds are far to short it makes no sense rewarding non-technical behaviour while punishing the shield user

surreal rapids
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I mean

opal apex
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Rounds are so short because we have no armor atm

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That’s gonna change once we get it

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Heavily

surreal rapids
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Adding different types of shields wouldn't hurt right?

noble seal
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of course not

surreal rapids
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A wooden shield would break far easier than a steel shield for example

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Their cost would be different

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The way you use them would be different too

noble seal
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i think the main cost element are weapon or shield effectiveness

surreal rapids
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There's more to shields than simply blocking moves

noble seal
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bigger shield = bigger cost

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since its more effecatious

surreal rapids
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Deflecting, trapping weapons, parrying

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The move editor opens up a lot of possibilities

noble seal
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this is true

noble seal
surreal rapids
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Maybe yes

noble seal
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you should

surreal rapids
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I hope to

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Although I'll probably lay dead on the first match

noble seal
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this is okay

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you have a week to train

surreal rapids
noble seal
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who knows sometimes the newbie trumps the seasoned player for they are completely unpredicable

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thus making them the most dangerous

surreal rapids
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Unpredictability can only do so much with the weapons' limited moveset

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If you train enough, you can prepare for every possibility right now

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That's gonna change with the full release tho

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The game speed makes a huge difference too

noble seal
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"The musical notes are only five in number, but their melodies are so numerous that one cannot hear them all." - sun tzu

surreal rapids
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"You can only fight the way you practice." - Miyamoto Musashi

noble seal
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good quote choice

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miyamoto musashi knew there was no true honor in combat

surreal rapids
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I've been procrastinating reading his book since forever

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But his quotes are really good

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I've read Vagabond's manga tho

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Inoue's adaptation of his biography is great

noble seal
noble seal
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namaste

surreal rapids
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I can't use the pc rn

noble seal
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i see okay

surreal rapids
noble seal
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same with sun tzu

surreal rapids
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This is funny because one of his most popular quotes

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Talks about abandoning your own body but preserving your honour

noble seal
surreal rapids
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Lmfao

noble seal
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my kind of honor

surreal rapids
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Honour is really subjective for Miyamoto

noble seal
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he doesnt really explicitly have a feeling about honor or dishonor

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winning is most important

surreal rapids
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He does talk about it

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Twice apparently

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In both he says that you should give up your life but not your honour

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I think he's talking about not straying from your Path

noble seal
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yeah i think i agree with you there

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he was obsessed with the path

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After my gladio mori sun tzu video im making ill probably make a miyamoto musashi one

surreal rapids
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Wait till we have dual-wielded swords

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Xd

noble seal
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perhaps you are right

last zenith
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You can get the menu editor now and it’s funny lmao

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You can’t change moves so they’re pretty useless still cool though

last zenith
pulsar thicket
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You can strafe the head from above, force the shield use to shield high then just stab them

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Or leg sweep once theres a better leg sweep attack

ember grotto
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pretty cool becouse there be more options than cool ahh dance

night wadi
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'bout that "shields can be bypassed with skill" talk and the "a newbie can defeat a master with unpredictability", they remind me of the notion in gaming that skill is divided into 3 categories: body (how well you can do the inputs/how long you can play without starting to falter from exhaustion), mind (how well you understand the game) and heart (how well you can predict your opponent's moves and be unpredictable). bypassing shields works such that usually your best bets are attacking from above and sweeping the leg, but the one with the shield can protect against either. good players can bait enemies into putting the shield in the wrong place, and newbies are unpredictable by nature, making it so protecting yourself against them is really tough.

anyways shield breaking lets you bypass all that

placid dew
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not a fan. rather have the weapon remain the same throughout the duel

crystal pecan
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^

hasty wasp
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I don't think the shields are that OP

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I started playing the game today and by far the best weapon in the demo seems to be the longsword cause of consistent one shots, not the sword + shield

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although the sword + shield is fun to troll people with if you are any decent at blocking