flow-general・🌊

[sharp dome]

yes u can?

[crisp basalt]

This isn’t flow

[sharp dome]

i am talking about veo3

[crisp basalt]

no wonder you got gibberish result

[sharp dome]

whats this thing I am fiddling with supposed to be then

[crisp basalt]

Veo 3 only available for ultra plan

In Flow

[crisp basalt]

try this prompt : Close-up shot, futuristic professional setting: A man with a confident expression looks directly into the camera against a clean white background with bright, even lighting. Realistic skin texture, high resolution. Man: "Hello world, I am AI”

[crisp basalt]

That is not the official website

If you wanna complain about this, might as well complain directly to the creator of that website

[sharp dome]

veo3.ai is not their official website?

[crisp basalt]

No

[crisp basalt]

Once again it’s not an official website

[sharp dome]

r u guys saying this is a scammer website?

[crisp basalt]

https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow

This is the official flow website

[sharp dome]

....r u sure that google really made such a stupid mistake? to have url domain taken?

by a random nobody? and be prepared to scam people on day 1?

[crisp basalt]

These are the only official website where you can access Veo model made by Google

[analog fossil]

scenebuilder has no audio?

[crisp basalt]

Nope

[analog fossil]

we early early haha

[crisp basalt]

For now , they might consider adding that functionality in the future

[sharp dome]

is there anyone with actual authority on this discord to confirm this?

[crisp basalt]

Yeah , there’s Google staff and labs team if you look at the member list on right side

But yeah, once again, they won’t take any responsibility since you weren’t using the Flow website.

[sharp dome]

"I'm genuinely surprised that Google would allow their product name to be used in a way that could potentially mislead or scam users. It seems like a serious oversight, and it's hard to imagine a company as reputable as Google making such a critical error."

[crisp basalt]

And.. what do you want them to do about it?

[sharp dome]

nothing if it's really Google just being incompetent I would be surprised and lose some respect but I don't think this is the case

[crisp basalt]

That’s on you my dude ✌️

hope you having a great rest of your day

[sharp dome]

you can say that to potentially thousands of people that would be scammed by this website

welcome to harsh reality u just got scammed lol

[crisp basalt]

Maybe u should focus on refining the prompt

Rather than trying to defend yourself

it’s not a good look on you

[sharp dome]

actually no

sorry but u r wrong

I'm 100% sure that if any official staff was here they would be seriously concerned about their product name be taken and being used to maliciously scam people

If some company was using googles name and maliciously pretending to be them to scam people they would sue them

so what I'm saying is
you're wrong

you should be respectful other members calling other people's dumb and troll can get u banned from server

if u think i am a troll report to the mods

[vital turtle]

So you expect Google to shutdown EVERY site that contains ANY name that can relates to ANY Google product? Man, stop whining and stop going to obvious scam websites...

[sharp dome]

When did I? I came here to explain my frustration on what was fake veo3

and u were offended

so u decided to call me dumb and troll

[vital turtle]

He didn't, I think we all did - My bad. You got scammed, now move on.

[sharp dome]

u calling me stupid troll l is not only a personal attack and but also a shaming

I will report you now

how do i report members that call others stupid troll on this channel

I have tried to warn u of ur behaviour but u refused to apologise

[vital turtle]

Mods, can you please mute this guy? Thanks!

[sharp dome]

<@&1366831844502274180>

I am reporting these two @vital turtle @edgy holly I came here using veo3.ai website thinking it was googles API end and it turns out this was (supposed to be) scam. these guys didnt consider my unfortunate situation emphatically and decided to call me stupid and troll

<@&1366831844502274180>

[rare carbon]

would like to contact the veo team about requesting a partnership and support for my content creation plan. Please note that the tool is not yet available in my country. I Don't know which email address to send it to. Can you help me, please?

?

[sharp dome]

it's not available unless you live in the United States

[elder kiln]

why its says Failed Generation?

[vital turtle]

Check the #1319424187730755636 multiple users have the same issue

[rare carbon]

I want to contact them now. Until is available in my country

[sudden sigil]

This happens for literally everything all the time do you know how many ChatGPT spinoff websites there was. Same with Gemini.

Why would they use the model number in the URL when those change fairly often?

Is it just a lack of critical thinking.

[crisp basalt]

We were all trying to have a good-faith conversation, it just felt like you got a bit passive-aggressive after things didn’t go your way

Seriously man, please step away for a bit and calm down

[sharp dome]

I think u got point

I think my frustration got me mixed in my words and I agree I was tilted as u described @crisp basalt but I think u should recognize that these words an open shaming and insults should not be toleranted on this server

this is an act of "opening shaming someone" and this is against the rules of this server.

[crisp basalt]

understood. so do you still need help with refining your prompt?

[sharp dome]

No I think I am gona be salty sad by the fact I got scammed

[crisp basalt]

alright , suits yourself

[sharp dome]

tears

I dont think prompts can fix it because I am using inferior scammers AI

[nova ferry]

can you please link me this site?

[frosty acorn]

Hi, I just subscribed the Ai Pro Offer and I expected tto receive some Ai credit but I did not. There is any reason?

[sharp dome]

r u in US

[crisp basalt]

bud its on flow faq section

https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow/faq

[nova ferry]

thanks brother!

[sharp dome]

https://labs.google/flow/tv/channel/mobile-homes/3BdI6pk3CTHDUDvsMkVu?random=true

I am watching this meanwhile, ah I wish to be one of the creators

[frosty acorn]

actually, I did with VPN. I have the right to enter in flow, the right to create etc... But I don’t have any credit. When I try to check the subscription, google tell me that I already have an account.

[sharp dome]

honestly I agree with you

[frosty acorn]

Erf so sad......... haha

[pale sapphire]

if it keeps on saying it fails to generate in the flow dashboard what to do? (I have google one)

[frosty acorn]

I understand, this is the point. I was hoping to try it and promote the solution within my company. I should wait...No worries.

[vital turtle]

Check #1319424187730755636 people have same issue

[humble tusk]

I have the Google Ai Ultra subcription. is there a limit to how many videos I can make? i dont see where the credits are being used like in Kling Ai

oh i see thanks

cant wait til i get some days off from work so i make videos

[charred dock]

Veo 3 worth it? I wanna buy it

[humble tusk]

I like being able to make action scenes. two men engaging in martial arts. that prompt gives me errors in Kling

its cool.

yea. VEO 3 managed to do it on the first try

[restive badger]

anyone not getting audio?

[humble tusk]

make sure its on VEO 3

[charred dock]

How much video I could do with ultra subscription

[restive badger]

yea it definitely is. i created a video with audio and when i tried to reroll for something better it did not add audio

[humble tusk]

approximately 10 minutes and 40 seconds of total video footage.

long enough for my short films

[restive badger]

yea if you figure you get probably 1/3 in your final product. its a 3min short

for 250

[humble tusk]

or you can buy more credits or wait until it resets the next month

[spark delta]

Hey guys
Just a reminder to please follow #rules-and-guidelines・📋 when having conversations here. I understand things can get heated but please try to respect other users and help keep this place a friendly welcoming environment!!

[worn tiger]

hello, i don't see any support channel so i'm writing here. i just subscribed to Google One AI and tried multiple times to generate videos in Flow, every time its failing immediately on 0% "Failed Generation". And i have already -800 credits even though i just subscribed and tried to generate 4 videos (all failed the same). I'm over 18 and connecting in USA. Any help how to resolve it? Thanks in advance

[cobalt junco]

https://deepmind.google/models/veo/evals/

pretty cool

[ornate kelp]

Yea, Sora looks good as long as you don’t have physics involved, or expectations for prompt adherence.

[edgy pasture]

100%. I’ve gotten some really good videos via Sora but when it comes to physics it sucks

[crisp basalt]

wait til u see sora 2 leak

[placid sparrow]

Sora had good hype ig

[jade crest]

Can someone help nudge Google’s engineers for me? I want to upload my own images

[little sparrow]

anyone having issues accessing flow? When I click create with flow it just takes me to a page where flow videos are playing but I can't access any of my content I created

[median hearth]

Works fine for me atm.

[unique abyss]

What's interesting to me about that chart is that VEO3 only wins over VEO2 2/3s of the time, which suggests, if you are credit constrained, rather than time constrained, and if you don't need sound for a particular shot, you might be better off strategically choosing to do some shots to VEO2, rather than using "the best and most expensive" model by default.

[crystal palm]

IS sound working? I'm using Flow, and I'm not getting any sound.

(Ultra plan, BTW)

[restive badger]

same

[vital turtle]

Unless you need Veo3 specifically, you could try Google AI Studio. There you can use your own image as start. Incredibly weird that you can't do this in Flow already...

[median hearth]

Are you being specific about what sound you want? Also, be aware that atm, it only works for the first video. So if you extend or jump to, you wont be getting audio/sfx yet.

[crystal palm]

Ah... Thank you, I'll try that. @median hearth

[jade crest]

Veo2 has hit a bottleneck in certain scenarios, and I’d like to try Veo3.

[edgy pasture]

Not really, Veo 2 at high quality costs 100 credits, which is what most video professionals should choose. Upgrading to Veo 3 costs 150 credits for the same quality, meaning you’re paying 50 extra credits, meaning it is worth it more than 2/3 times

[torpid cedar]

Veo 3 is expensive, yet worth the results in the end.

[lunar aspen]

Flow's crazy.

[crystal palm]

To make sure I'm not missing something... Veo 3 IS Flow, yes? (Or am I confused?)

[median hearth]

Veo3 is the model...Flow is the interface

[crystal palm]

Ah. Gotcha. Thank you!

[median hearth]

You can use Veo3 inside of Gemini with daily rate limits, however using the Flow interface uses your credits.

[unborn panther]

When can is Veo2 gonna allow image uploads.?? That is the main reason i signed up.

[edgy pasture]

I think the limits are monthly no?

[edgy pasture]

It already allows, Veo 3 is the one that doesn’t yet

[formal zenith]

No that’s only AI generated images not uploaded images

[deft gyro]

this ai sht gets scary

[edgy pasture]

Oh mb, you can still upload any images in Google AI studio though

[median hearth]

Daily limits when I use Veo3 in the Gemini web UI.

Monthly limits based on your credits when used from within the Flow UI

[frank quarry]

Hey i have got the same problem as @worn tiger does anyone know whats going on with us ??

[jade crest]

[frank quarry]

?

[worn tiger]

I wrote to google chat support and after brief chat they said its unusual and brought the case to "more technical support" and they are suppose to be come back to me in 24h. Try to chat to google support as well

[frank quarry]

Ok thanks I'll do that lmk if you get a favorable response

[heavy wraith]

Is it possible to test veo3 for free in any platform?

[blazing otter]

How to get access? Its not available in my country

[cobalt junco]

lol Day 3

[winged plinth]

That was a great stream.

[cobalt junco]

halp

[naive pine]

Wondering if any celebrities are allowed to be used or are they blocked

[cobalt junco]

lol no 😂

[cobalt junco]

here many celebrities are blocked, not all

although I don't know what it would do with a reference image uploaded 🤔

[naive pine]

sora currently crushing with the celebs

lol not for me

[cobalt junco]

I never tried to upload a ref on whisk and use it does it work?

I just don't use any celebrities anyway

lol at "that other guy"

you know Drake but not Kendrick? shame

lol 😉

[naive pine]

But even if I have gucci manes permission you'll be upset?

lmao

lmao nice

I made young dolph and hillary clinton hold hands on this vid im working on

sora tho obvi lol

[wild oracle]

hey! I am here for this question, too! did you get an answer?!?

[sharp dome]

if ur AI cannot make the person say something

[night python]

Just sharing some hunches/discoveries:

I'm starting to suspect that audio generation is more consistent when working with human subjects. I've been trying to generate dialogue for a talking CG puppy. I've done 12 generations, and only 3 had audio (the first 3, weirdly). But when I do human-centered scenes, I get audio much more consistently, about 60-70% of the time. 🤷‍♂️

[sharp dome]

u might be using a scammer's version

check u r at "google.com"

[wild oracle]

I think I maybe found it. I only have the PRO account, so I am not getting sound.

[fair gull]

Is there a way to hear the audio in your Veo 3 videos within SceneBuilder? There's an audio slider at the top but I get nothing unless I bounce out of Scenebuilder and listen to the clip directly. Using Chrome.

[pseudo ether]

I would like to request early access to use here in Brazil, does anyone know how I can do this?

[dusty hornet]

how to make a video from veo 3, but using fiscord

[wild oracle]

maybe you can answer this, which was the other big one: why does the face keep switching as I tell the story??? i.e. extend it....

I am kinda losing my grip trying to keep the same character extending, it keeps switching face and even race! That would be cool for a sci fi storyline, but I am doing something else and I need my protagonist to hold steady. any ideas?!

ty. that is rad. not 💯 sure how to switch-- but it says fast here...

[crisp basalt]

Switch the model?

😬

[wild oracle]

I did't even see that there! I got nightmoded. TY!~~

and I am going into 4 output mode, too!~ TYX2!

[wild oracle]

my hope is that I can maybe keep adding a descriptive character prompt to preserve it for longer, because my last guy just morphed out and grew a red beard. But I now have some hacky theories maybe how to get around it though based on todays learnings.

[peak jetty]

In which countries is this available?

Just the US?

[wild oracle]

that is sic. well here is an example of what I am doing. this is my main dude.

and this is the extended dude

so close!

right. editing and maybe extending other edits is the way to go. appreciate your help again and maybe got output 1 to save credits.

[wild oracle]

Ay! That sounds like sage advice to me! I am def using genAI to help plan, produce, organize, format my prompts, and also keep a record. I am still a little shook from winston growning a mustache bc I was def rolling.

[hasty lion]

What I did was use the examples fro m the veo webpage, and told ai to create the scene in this format

[flint summit]

I cut back to 1 at a time. Too expensive at 150 credits a pop for Veo3. Also I'm hoping that maybe they'll credit us early Veo3 adopters back some credits to help make up for all the fails. We're still basically paying to be beta testers.

As for prompts, I keep mine simple. At only 8 secs a clip I find it more important to tell a quick story with a punchline than try to micromanage every little thing on screen.

[unreal raft]

labs.google/fx/tools/flow it just says Flow a new state of creation there is nothing else. How do I try it out?

[muted bobcat]

I cut back to 1 at a time. Too expensive at 150 credits a pop for Veo3. Also I'm hoping that maybe they'll credit us early Veo3 adopters back some credits to help make up for all the fails. We're still basically paying to be beta testers.

[reef trail]

Hey guys! May I ask you for an advice on building continuous video containing 5-6 scenes, which has consistent background music and voiceover?
For me, it seems that I cannot make that in Flow's Scenebuilder right now, and I should only make separate scenes to glue them together after with own music.

(Ultra plan, veo3)

[crisp basalt]

no register or login button?

[robust fog]

Is there a way to see the output video quality and/or adjust it? Everything looks 720 or lower but I'm on the Ultra plan and using Veo 3 (i think)

[reef trail]

you may adjust video output resolution (to 1080p max) when downloading, yet upscaling was a bit buggy for me

[naive pine]

veo 3 through gemini can i give it an uploaded image to use as first frame or reference even? I am aware that I cannot through flow

I see i cannot even click the plus sign to attach, answered my question haha

[verbal willow]

hello i need help, im testing Flow and i get everytime a Failed Generation message every time I send a prompt

[robust fog]

No Ai Studio support for Veo 3?

[reef trail]

I am really really interested in if it's possible by design to have a video of 2+ scenes having continuous consistent audio and voiceover in scenebuilder (Flow, veo3, ultra plan, US)
if somebody could support me on that – I would really appreciate that!

[verbal willow]

what is this message? i have google premium and i am from US

[robust fog]

for Ultra members, is there a limit to the number of Veo3 generations you can make?

[reef trail]

12500 credits per month, 1 generation of veo3 is 150 credits

[verbal willow]

and what should i do? spam multiple times trying to generate?

[robust fog]

So about 83 generations a month

hmm. That's a bit disappointing for what you have to pay

Thats fair. I just need to be mindful of my generations 🙂

Does anyone test first in veo2 and then transition to 3

[grave linden]

Anyone know when image upload will be available for flow?

[tame sleet]

Is 8 sec the longest it can generate ?

[reef trail]

yes, but you may extend it in Scenebuilder, and it will cost 1 more generation

[robust fog]

Is anyone having trouble with audio generating?

[ember thistle]

Featured on my LinkedIn bio: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ersansaribal_google-deepmind-veo3-activity-7331398565795164161-LFuU

[verbal willow]

how can i contact with support? i lost my credits on failed generations try

[karmic wagon]

hey guys, i am from colombi but when i tried to use flow it said that flow is not allowed in the contry, some help here please 😢😢

[velvet hull]

Hey

How can I use veo 3?

[lyric grotto]

Hi, is there a way to generate 9:16 vertical videos with flow?

[robust fog]

Is there a character limit in the text to video field?

[still siren]

Anyone making money with this?

[naive pine]

what does it charge in credits if any when generating an image in flow for text to image usage?

wonderful im hoping so, seems to be

would be deceptive if not lmao no sign of credit usage anywhere

[velvet hull]

do I really need ai ultra to unlock veo 3?

[naive pine]

Yes

I believe I had to lol

[velvet hull]

:(
It’s only available in us

Im from Brazil

[naive pine]

dang

[velvet hull]

Can anyone here generate a video for me?

[vocal rivet]

I have a question! Is there any timeline or idea of when we will be able to use the full Flow feature set (ingredients, extend, first/last frame, camera controls) With the Veo 3 model? Right now being limited to only text->video for Veo 3 makes it difficult to use for a commercial/professional use case

[broken plaza]

#flow-general・🌊 A Saudi young man inside the car is annoyed by the heat of the sun, with sounds of cars in the street and sounds indicating that the person is annoyed.

[amber sparrow]

I just got here so apologies if somewhere better to ask but messing around with Flow for fun not work. Made a video I really like but it put something on the character's t-shirt I want to remove. Is there a way to edit an existing video or do I have to just run it with a different prompt and get something sort of similar?

[silent prairie]

I'm also wondering about image to video / ingredients with veo3

[amber sparrow]

Also this is a Pro not Ultra account I'm using.

[vocal rivet]

fair enough. I just was curious if it was a technical limitation of Veo3 or if it's something that will be implemented in the future.

[olive sleet]

When will veo 3 feature in Belgium?

[potent mural]

i got google sub why i can't use Veo 3 ?

[olive sleet]

it might not be in your country yet.

[strong bramble]

Yeah cant access flow. I'm on Pro, I've updated chrome and signed out of all of my other google accounts. Still telling me to upgrade, even though when I click it the page says I've already upgraded. Also I am within the US, created my account in the US as well so not too sure at this point what the issue is unless it takes upwards of 3 hours for the account to give me access to flow/VEO3. Any ideas or a mods help would be greatly appreciated!

[potent mural]

same here

[ember thistle]

Alright folks. I'm by no means an expert, nor am I affiliated with Google, but I've spent a crapton of hours over the past day knee-deep in this stuff. So I'm going to do my best to answer ya'll's questions for the next 30 mins. Disclaimer: there's a small but significant chance I'm completely wrong.

[ember thistle]

Fwiw I was able to access Flow yesterday while on Pro, before upgrading to Ultra. I will say that the upgrade from Pro to Ultra took about 10 mins before it registered.

[ember thistle]

Which Google plan are you on? Need to be on Pro or Ultra

[robust fog]

Just as a PSA for those who are experimenting right now and not getting the output they'd expected:

Make sure you're clicking that settings icon and choosing, "Highest Quality (Experimental Audio) Veo 3"

[ember thistle]

I believe you have to run it with a different prompt. Run more iterations until you find something you like. Although I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that we will be able to make follow-up adjustments. The feature just doesn't seem to be released yet.

[robust fog]

I was on Veo 2 like all day and just now could click on that setting function

[ember thistle]

Yeah. Big one. My UX issue with that was mine defaulted to "High Quality" so I thought I had the maximum quality - where "Highest Quality" was what I needed.

Edit: Pretty sure it used to say "High Quality" but looks like the Google Labs team fixed the language to clarify

[strong bramble]

Thanks will check again later today, just annoying that I have all the other features instantly and can generate with Veo2 already. *sigh

[exotic pike]

Hello , please when will flow be awailable in Europe and my country Luxembourg?? What is the timeline here! We are desperate!!

[robust fog]

I know it gets asked a lot, but what's this group's opinion on when other aspect ratios will get support?

[sharp dome]

Hello I bought Google AI Pro plan but I can't access the page

[silent prairie]

@ember thistle - Are you able to upload images to use as a reference/starting point for either Veo2 or Veo3 yet? The upload option is grayed out on mine for both Veo2/Veo3 (I was able to upload image -> video in Veo 2 before the move to Flow).
Having a reference image starting point is pretty necessary for this to be usable in my specific production flow.

[sharp dome]

I can't access it

[amber sparrow]

Thanks!

[hushed summit]

hi, is there a way to set the aspect ratio?

[rapid crow]

Hi, I just signed up for the Ultra package and am unable to upload ingredients even though the package says that the feature is available (the option is greyed out and says "dropping soon"). Is this a bug or false advertising?

[halcyon trellis]

It’s not a bug it’s Google

You can’t upload your own assets

[ember thistle]

No clue whatsoever, but damn would that be useful.

[rapid crow]

Do you know when this will be available? They made it appear as if the feature is active

[ember thistle]

Nope, it's been grayed out the whole time for Veo 3 release, AFAIK

[ember thistle]

I had a ton of Premium options. Can you scroll down to see others? Or is there some little link to expand for more options?

[ember thistle]

AFAIK, no

[ember thistle]

I haven't been able to upload ingredients since yesterday either. I think it's a temporary limit

[rapid crow]

Is the feature available to some users? Would be great if they had provided some clarification on this. I would have waited to sign up for the premium package

[sharp dome]

options?

no nothing

what do you see?

[ember thistle]

Correction! It appears I can do text-to-image using generation (I assume powered by Imagen inside the Flow UI) and also use frames that were saved as assets from inside the Scenebuilder (by clicking the little plus symbol)

[sharp dome]

@frosty acorn

did u manage to use flow?I can't

[ember thistle]

You should be able to use Flow even with a Pro and not Ultra subscription. Pro just won't get sound

[sharp dome]

could it be some people are just not allowed?

https://support.google.com/gemini/thread/339730508/veo2-not-showing-up-after-signing-up-for-google-gemini-advanced-ai-plan?hl=en
Google recently introduced a Veo2 feature on Gemini. They roll out the feature to a small percentage of users initially, typically 5%, and gather feedback from them. If there are no issues, they gradually extend the feature to more users.

[ember thistle]

Could be. Are you outside the USA by any chance?

[analog sedge]

Wish there was an unlimited credit plan

[copper plank]

I can't find the export for FLOW. I'm on ultra

Video is done but I feel like i'm blind. Where in the UI do I export or download.

[ember thistle]

There is.... if you have unlimited funds 😆

[ember thistle]

Hover over it and look for the download icon, top right

[copper plank]

I can do individual scenes. but not the full thing

[ember thistle]

Use Chrome if you're not already, the UI may be messed up otherwise

Ah.... in that case, unsure. I haven't used the Scenebuilder much due to its lack of features. Instead I downloaded the individual scenes and put it together outside Flow

Wow. That's a big issue that renders Scenebuilder completely useless

[sharp dome]

I am... cough... travelling outside the usa and using vpn at the moment

[fierce nimbus]

hover over the preview/canvas and you will see a download of the full video in the bottom right of the preview/canvas

[signal ice]

Hello, i have Google AI Subscription but flow site says "subscribe now".

[sharp dome]

thats me

[sharp dome]

I don't think anybody here can help you, you have my problem and I cant get help

[copper plank]

Does upscale download cost credits?

[signal ice]

I hope it gets resolved soon. Maybe, Ultra membership required?

[fierce nimbus]

Yup working on some changes as we are learning from all of you! Thank you for the feedback

[sharp dome]

nope

don't waste your money on ultr, it's not working on ultra if u can't access it on pro plan

[copper plank]

Also none of my clips have audio

Ultra Flow, just straight frame to video. didn't want to do straight text to video in case the output wasn't what shot i wanted

so audio is only with straight text to video?

[signal ice]

Hello Nick, can you help us?

[fierce nimbus]

hey @signal ice for that one its not me sorry.

[signal ice]

Okay. 👍

[naive pine]

Does audio allow curse words I have not tried yet but if I wanna make rated R drug dealer type movie in terms of the vulgar language will I have to dub over

[signal ice]

Flow can create voice other languages?

[zenith ravine]

Anyone else getting this infinite loop? Subscribed but can't generate any video

[signal ice]

Yes, no solution currently.

[zenith ravine]

Same issue for both Pro and Ultra? (I have Pro)

[naive pine]

dang gonna have to be very violent then and kill off everyone every scene LMFAO

[copper plank]

Over everything else having proper text generation in the video and imagen 4 base is AMAZING

[signal ice]

I dont know. I have pro.

[naive pine]

need ultra

[quaint ingot]

Google loves wasting my 100 credits on "Quality" mode by silently switching to it every single time.

[unique abyss]

Also, regardless of if you chose settings that should be able to product audio VEO3 both sometimes doesn't include audio, and is often tempted to add nonsensical "subtitles"

In this tweet thread you can see the CEO of Google noting that this bug that is on his radar:

https://x.com/emollick/status/1925305547651190787

So this might not exactly be the best moment to spend very limited credits on attempts at audio, although I can also understand the desire to roll the dice, and get to play with something really cool, which feels like the future when if/it works.

Ethan Mollick (@emollick)

This matches what I am seeing, the model is a huge leap in video creation and is good at direction following, but the two most common failure modes are that it adds nonsense "subtitles" to videos and that some videos lack sound. Wouldn't be a big deal but credits are not returned

X · May 21, 2025, 9:39 PM

[ember thistle]

Took me ~10 mins to get past that

[quaint marsh]

Hey, Is there any plan on when flow gets released in different countries?

[naive pine]

need sound in upscaled so we dont have to download two versions

[signal ice]

How?

[zenith ravine]

Moment of truth...

[signal ice]

😅

Working now?

[zenith ravine]

A new infinite loop, now can't authenticate with my google login no matter what. Ultra login, I think they call it

[signal ice]

Try clean cookies.

[rigid venture]

congrats on those who got ultra hahah!

make some crazy stuff

[zenith ravine]

Thanks, logging out and in again via google.com, and then opening Flow again worked. Kind of. Not really. But I could at least log in.

[rapid crow]

How do I get a refund on the Ultra package? This is clearly not as advertised and not yet ready for commercial use. I shouldn't have to pay to have Google sort out all the bugs

[rigid venture]

tide pods (the return)

[zenith ravine]

I'll give the team a few days to sort things out, hopefully credits and features will be available then. Meanwhile hope to see bunch of wild video posts from people who have access

[signal ice]

https://support.google.com/googleplay/workflow/9813244?

[rapid crow]

Thank you!

[stoic tulip]

hey guys, how do you get veo3 credits on flow?

[signal ice]

I cant see ultra plan on my Google one app. Its not available for everyone?

@edgy holly Have you tried create voices in other languages?

[rapid crow]

What was yout prompt for this? I haven't been able to generate dialogue and curious what prompt you used

Was that straight text to video? How did you can the model to talk?

[latent saffron]

How do y make money from ai

[stoic tulip]

I need to subscribe this right?

does anyone know what's the limit for veo3 generation with this?

[rapid crow]

Save your money, it's super buggy right now

[latent saffron]

It's just a question I don't like ai I'm not asking to start or smthng I just want to know

[stoic tulip]

oh ok

what you mean with super buggy?

[latent saffron]

.

[stoic tulip]

you can't accomplish results with quality you see online?

[latent saffron]

I mean are y selling like advertise videos and get paid?

[winged plinth]

It's working perfectly fine.

[rapid crow]

You can't upload your own assets to ingredients yet. If you try to add dialogue, half the time it will add mispelled subtitles

[kindred mountain]

Is Veo 3 only accessible to the ultra mega subscription tier?

[latent saffron]

Yes I mean I cannot understand how can y make money from it from ai cause there are people like me that making designs and video edits manually and taking hours just like for 150$

[stoic tulip]

thanks very much, how long does a single video can be with veo3 in terms of minutes??

[halcyon rain]

How exactly does this work? Do I just prompt in the proper channel? Am I allowed to use image like taking an image and animating it?

Ok, what is happening in the prompts channel. I have only ever used midjourney so Im a little cluless on how this works.

How do I access Veo to test it. Do I need to go to the direct Flow site and ensure I have the correct subscription. I am seeing this Google AI pro

[rapid crow]

For anyone asking how this works, the instructions are here: https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow/faq

[lucid zealot]

Hey guys! What a great tool Google created🔥🔥🔥very excited for the possibilities. Do you have a date of when it will be available outside the US?

[sharp dome]

Why is Veo region only

[crisp basalt]

I thought u can

Ah alright

Btw upload is now available in flow

[rapid crow]

Yeah, it's pretty lame. They made it look like the feature is available when it's not

[crisp basalt]

Eh it’s fine , rules a rules so

[fading dirge]

Upload your own image? And it uses veo 3 for o animate?

[crisp basalt]

Yea

It appears enabled on my end

[fading dirge]

Even in 9:16 ratio?

Welp time to try it

[crisp basalt]

Yeah if you want

I think it’ll pop up window asking you to crop it to fit the 16:9 landscape format.

[rapid crow]

Ok, now it looks like you can upload your own images

[odd ridge]

hey every time I click download 1080p version it downloads the gif version with no audio. How do I fix this?

[odd ridge]

onmly for veo 2 right?

[crisp basalt]

Refresh the page

And do upscaled again

And don’t leave the page until you see the small toast message saying your video is ready.

[crisp basalt]

Veo 3 also supports frame-to-video, but it only works with the first frame, for now

[fading dirge]

damn this much and you cant even chose your ratio is wild lol

[crisp basalt]

@fading dirge you can upload a 9:16 image btw, it’ll still ask you to crop, but it won’t force-fit it into a 16:9 frame, which is actually nice ✨

@jade crest your favorite feature is now available

[jade crest]

Great! It now supports uploading my own images.

[fierce nimbus]

This is actually a fun one! When you upload a 9:16 asset to Flow you can still use it as a Frame or Ingredient with the black bars and all! In this example I am using a 9:16 asset as a First Frame annd then type "FPV camera into the picture and throughout the apartment". You can always trim that first bit out in the SceneBuilder before exporting. Super fun to see Veo just outpaint like this.

[crisp basalt]

Is there a way to prompt it to keep the black bars throughout the video? i mostly really love that 4:3 aesthetic sometimes.

[fierce nimbus]

No true way to force it however you will find certain prompts retain the black bars without issue.

[robust zenith]

Is there a way I can check how many credits I have left on my Google Flow?

[crisp basalt]

Understood As long as I don’t phrase stuff like “do not” or anything negative in the prompt, I should be fine

[fierce nimbus]

You can tap on your profile image top right to view credit count!

[robust zenith]

Thanks! Wow, I'm really burning through these credits, i better be more careful with my prompts!

[crisp basalt]

https://one.google.com/u/1/ai/activity?utm_source=flow&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=flow_ai_credits_page&pli=1&g1_landing_page=0 you can also click on the ai credits to see details of your ai credit balance

[fading dirge]

eh i make youtube shorts, id like to be able to make 9:16 ratio

[fierce nimbus]

100% understand. Feedback heard!

[fading dirge]

oh youre with google?

[crisp basalt]

hes the lead designer

[fading dirge]

can i ask you a question?

[fading dirge]

oh nice

@fierce nimbus I know ai is expensive to run, so im not complaining about the price. But how feasible is it to have relaxed generations in flow with the ultra plan? Is it something that could be possible in the future?

[heavy shuttle]

upload img appeared for me?

I'm on ultra

[crisp basalt]

It’s enabled for all flow users

[heavy shuttle]

Thats awesome!

[amber sparrow]

So I'm trying to get a specific logo on a shirt but it Flow doesn't know it so it just makes something up. How can I get the real logo on it? This is for fun not for work.

Also, something else mentioned in the prompt showed up on the t-shirt but I don't want it to. 🤷‍♂️

[fierce nimbus]

Anything is possible but right now we offer 3 models in Flow to help people create with Veo Fast, Veo 2, and Veo 3.

[fierce nimbus]

This is a perfect usecase for Ingredients to Video available on our ULTRA tier.. You would upload the logo as an ingredient and prompt for it to appear how you want.

[amber sparrow]

Nice. Thank you.

[minor rune]

👋

Can someone confirm in pro we did not have access to ingredients to video, it is an ultra feature limited?

[raw sparrow]

Hey

[minor rune]

I saw this table saying that in Veo 2 quality it should be available but maybe it's a bit misleading

[raw sparrow]

Hope y’all can game me up

[crisp basalt]

wait

yeah youre right

[crisp basalt]

Actually nah, that tables specifically for the “Quality” option you use when you're in Ingredients-to-Video.

[minor rune]

Oh ok, this is clearer now

I will enjoy first to veo 2 and see if I may test the ultra sub to get access to the Veo 3

[fading dirge]

any one tried the audio with an uploaded image?

[crisp basalt]

Btw, @minor rune just a heads-up , be mindful of how many vids you’re generating, especially if you’re using the “Quality” option.

[minor rune]

Yeah I know it's costly, I use the fast by default, the quality will be only for specific purposes

Two last questions :
Quality mode is 1080p?
Audio is for ultra sub only too?

[crisp basalt]

quality mode is 720p still. you can upscale it to 1080p after u generated a video

[crisp basalt]

you can do upscaling by clicking on the download icon in the video player itself

[minor rune]

Perfect thanks

It worked for me

[crisp basalt]

did you see that little notification that says "video is ready for download" or something

[minor rune]

I used fast and follow the @crisp basalt steps

It took ~30 seconds/1mn before video is ready to download appears

[halcyon vector]

So exactly which Flow features does Veo 3 support? Earlier in the day I couldn't use first frame/last frame with it, but now I can (Sort of)? I can select first frame and use Veo3, but camera control OR last frame forces me back to veo 2?

[crisp basalt]

Veo 3 is Text-to-Video and Frames-to-Video (first frame) only.

[halcyon vector]

got it!

a bit disappointing though... I really want to use the audio/voice stuff while still controlling the first and last frame, otherwise it's a lot harder to make longer clips

[mental mulch]

I gotta get Google AI Ultra

Missed it 😭

Welp I can see why a crap ton of people are moving to Kling because of ridiculously expensive this became

[languid cove]

Chicago party

[odd ridge]

I choose this option and it downloads a really low res version with no audio

[flint summit]

Has anyone had any luck getting audio with a starting image in Veo3? I haven't. Only subtitles.

[crisp basalt]

@nova ferry having same problem

though i saw someone from reddit, managed to generate audio with start image

[halcyon vector]

its sometimes yes sometimes no for me

[nova ferry]

with t2v yes, but with i2v so far none.

[crisp basalt]

im gonna speculate that they will eventually support extend with audio. cuz they have this video on their deepmind page. https://deepmind.google/api/blob/website/media/us_wm_veo_3_extend_a-follow-shot-of-a-wise-old-owl-high-in-the-air-peeking-through_0pYjNAp.mp4

file name literally said "veo 3 extend"

[torpid cedar]

Still good

[crisp basalt]

A wise old owl and a nervous badger sit on a moonlit forest path. "They left behind a...a 'ball' today. It bounced higher than I can jump.” the badger stammered, trying to comprehend it. “What manner of magic is that?" the owl hooted thoughtfully. Audio: Owl hooting, badger's nervous chitters, rustling leaves, crickets.

A wise old owl flies away out of the frame and a nervous young badger runs in a different direction out of the frame. In the background, you can see a squirrel hurrying past making noise of rustling dried autumn leaves as it goes. Audio: birdsong, loud and leaves rustling, and the sound of intermittent pleasant sounds buzzing, twigs snapping underfoot, and the sounds of squirrels scurrying through the dried autumn leaves. The sound of an owl hooting in the distance, badger's nervous chitters, rustling leaves, crickets, sounds that are full of innocent curiosity.```

[warm whale]

In the cold sea at night, beside the wreckage of the hull. Jack was in the water and Ruth was lying on the board. Jack wore a shabby suit and Ruth a white dress. Jack trembled and said, "Winning the ticket and getting on this boat... Meeting you is the best thing in my life." Ruth sobbed.

[sacred hinge]

Time-lapse sequence showing a professional NHS receptionist avatar being created. Starts with wireframe 3D model, adds facial features, then professional NHS uniform. Avatar comes to life with blinking eyes and gentle smile. Background transforms from code editor to clean medical office setting. Avatar speaks: 'Hello, I'm here to help you navigate the NHS.' Polished, professional aesthetic, 20 seconds.

[flint summit]

I've had good luck getting audio, dialog, singing with t2v but no luck with i2v. If someone gets audio w/ starting frame, please post it.

[torpid cedar]

No audio on image 2 video

[halcyon vector]

The audo i get is usually only for a second or two and cuts out abruptly

with i2v

[random yew]

Where I can make test videos

[crisp basalt]

https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow

[broken cairn]

When will frames to video / ingredients to video come to Veo 3?

[halcyon vector]

the big question

[forest raptor]

Making and buying art, in human history, has always been a privilege of the wealthy. When AI art first emerged, I thought finally art would be for everyone. I was wrong. History never changes.

[halcyon vector]

$250 is less than paying for a studio team to make a commercial

and im sure in a year it'll be cheaper

[forest raptor]

You just made my point.

[halcyon vector]

$50,000 -> $250 (you are here) -> $25 -> $0.25

[forest raptor]

Everyone talking "commercials" and "ads" and "cheaper than Hollywood". No one speaks about one single humble person with a creative idea.

[halcyon vector]

I'm just making funny videos with it

[forest raptor]

I don't know. Not sure it'll happen. One year ago I would have said "yeah it will get cheaper" but now? They are capitalizing art.

[forest raptor]

I'm glad you can afford it. Still my point remains.

[halcyon vector]

you're disappointed that it's 100x cheaper to create "art" which by your standard has to be as good a veo 3 (somehow free AI art models aren't good enough for you), and you insist it instead has to be 1000x cheaper RIGHT NOW instead of a year from now

[forest raptor]

....he says, while being able to afford Veo3

[halcyon vector]

... and nuke professional plan costs more. I don't see you whining about that?

[forest raptor]

Make this same argument while not being able to spend 250 bucks a month for a hobby and I will believe you

Nuke?

[halcyon vector]

yeah other content creation software

[ebon meteor]

I like it！

[forest raptor]

Never even heard about it honestly

[halcyon vector]

do you expect all software to be free?

[forest raptor]

I was hoping so when AI art emerged. Not free perhaps but affordable to people

[halcyon vector]

go check out stable diffusion, its free

there's a dozen other platforms too

[forest raptor]

I use them already

[halcyon vector]

so you're complaining that someone spent money to make something and don't want it to be cheap?

[forest raptor]

Exactly?

Perhaps English isn't your main language lmao

[halcyon vector]

i don't speak communist

[forest raptor]

Well James, thanks for proving my point. Another psychological fact is exactly this. People who can afford it love their perceived superiority.

Money = power = I have more money therefore I am more powerful

Anyway. I have to go to work. I just wanted to express my sentiment on this. I am disappointed I can't afford Veo3 but I guess such is human society

[halcyon vector]

it's one thing to be annoyed that there's a big cost to a subscription for something. It's another to use it as a way to try and turn it into grandstanding about society when it's a reality that the state of the art is always going to be more expensive than the cheaper to produce product.

[wicked galleon]

can i not use flow in india ?

[broken cairn]

And that folks, is how socialism started...

-# Socialism is a political and economic system where the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned or regulated by the community as a whole, rather than by private individuals. It prioritizes social equality and the distribution of resources based on need, aiming to reduce disparities between the rich and poor.

-# I don't know if you 100% meant it that way, but I read it as that, and I could be totally wrong.

[halcyon vector]

how'd you copy the voice?

different software?

[broken cairn]

I used Veo 3

[halcyon vector]

Yea but it sounds exactly like JP

[broken cairn]

I didn't even mean it to

[halcyon vector]

no WAY, lmao

[broken cairn]

I just said An old Historian, about 65 years old, sitting in a library saying "And that folks, is how socialism started..."

[halcyon vector]

i think someone got weighted really heavy in the algo lmao

[broken cairn]

I think good models copy the best things that exist

like how ChatGPT can make images of Studio Ghibli stuff on accident

[halcyon vector]

i mean ppl explicitly ask for that in the prompts though

[broken cairn]

Maybe it was Gemini in the backend that asked for that?

[halcyon vector]

it's possible they have an LLM that takes your prompt and reformats it, but idk have they mentioned that before?

[broken cairn]

I think I saw that in the intro video that it uses Imagen 4, Gemini 2.5 flash or 2.5 pro, and then Veo 3 to make the clip

[halcyon vector]

ok i tried it myself and got 2 completely differnt voices, just crazy lucky?

[broken cairn]

Maybe

[signal ice]

In flow shows my AI credits 0 but i have credits.

[broken cairn]

You need to have a Google AI pro or Google AI Ultra plan to do this

[signal ice]

I have Google AI pro. In Google one page shows i have 980 AI credits but in flow 0.

[broken cairn]

Interesting

[signal ice]

I try log out and again try.

[proud mesa]

anyone know how to set up flow so i only get one generation vs 2?

[signal ice]

Now shows my credits but still not creating "you can not enough credits"

[clever yoke]

Hello, extending a scene doesn't add sound for me and flow downgrades the model saying compatibility issues. How are you all adding scenes with each other and downloading the final product?

[broken cairn]

I just use "jump to" and keep the same scene

Literally does the same thing

[clever yoke]

Okay. Extend is buggy then. It doesn't add the sound

[cerulean swift]

How much is Veo 3?

Looking to get it

[frigid pier]

$250

[cerulean swift]

Damn only available in US, im in Canada, anyone know if VPN works?

[frigid pier]

not sure

[clever yoke]

But do you get the audio? I lose the audio if I do that?

[broken cairn]

I don't know, I also lost audio

I have been getting a lot of issues

At least with Veo 3

[frigid pier]

seems the flow is not worth $250 currently.
it seems like it's not complete product

[clever yoke]

Yeah, I thought somebody figured it out

[broken cairn]

Like this is the quality of most of my videos now

[clever yoke]

Yeah they should refund people. I just wasted so many points.

[broken cairn]

Grainy, Saturated, and unrealistic

[clever yoke]

Some of my prompts work the way I want it and the characters are so real but I cannot build on them.

[broken cairn]

I feel like also if google is letting users extend their videos, they should just make it so you can "batch generate" videos, where it queues multiple generations at once and stitches them together for one seemless shot, or literally just make it so the videos can generate for longer. Since I feel google probably scraped a bunch of stuff off of youtube, and then fine-tuned Veo 3 to only generate 8 second clips

And yes, I know it takes so much to generate a video of such length, however, they could employ techniques to make it faster. Which I am sure they have thought of before.

I feel i've been dogging on google, but I am sure this is going to be fixed. They have already lowered the credit cost of Veo 3, and labeled it as Experimental. They have given out lots of free subscriptions to use the model, and I am sure in a week or two a lot of issues we are seeing will be fixed, since it has been that way with a lot of googles AI products. Like that one time in ImageFX you couldn't edit images, or how nothing would ever save back in the days of VideoFX

[gray tide]

Hello guys, I am from India, needed some help on how i can access Flow here and generate some videos for testing

[broken cairn]

Flow is not avaliable in India

[gray tide]

will using a VPN work?

[broken cairn]

Most Likely

[frigid pier]

india will break google data center

[unkempt lark]

if anyone tests it with vpn, can you tell me if it works?

[sharp whale]

She will it come to Australia

When*

[wraith jackal]

I am unable to hear when I click on add to scene 😦

[wraith jackal]

I have access to it, I can spare some credits.

[robust zenith]

Anyone else unable to download generations on iOS from Chrome?

[worthy jungle]

When can we expect availability of Flow to India?

[rancid tree]

Hi everyone, what’s the difference between “jump to” and “extend” in Flow?

[broken cairn]

Extend seamlessly makes it longer, and jump to changes the scene

[frigid pier]

They may consider it as the last candidate.
because of massive requests from india.

[hollow tapir]

Someone in the flow-gallery channel made a 1 minute long ted talk and I think he was able to get good continuity by using a really detailed description of the main character in each prompt. You should try that! Also I've had good success doing 2 separate shots of the individual cahracters and then clipping them together in imovioe to extend continuity.

@broken cairn there's definitely a lot of standard video editing/generation/asset management utilities and functionalities missing from Flow, but you can be creative to patch together some cool stuff!

[frigid pier]

after scaling up their hardware enough

[frigid pier]

lmfaoooo

bro why their uniforms look like ww1 lol

[rancid tree]

Does “jump to” mean using one of the frames from the previous video as a continuation—is that correct?

[clever yoke]

Currently no difference. Extend seems to be for Veo 2. It seems Jump works for some people and preserves the audio. But jump can also be jumping to an altogether different scene.

[frigid pier]

bro but this looks insane.. tbh.

[hollow tapir]

I have some more good ones I finished all my credits...

[frigid pier]

we will be able to see lots of AI generated ads on TV soon

[frigid pier]

lol u rushed hard

[hollow tapir]

I can't watch Tv without being like "All of these could be made with AI"

[rancid tree]

Do videos exported from SceneBuilder have no sound?

[hollow tapir]

yep, go back to the original to export with sound

[robust zenith]

I’ve spent a lot of credits just fumbling around the Flow app. It’s so painful.

[rancid tree]

So I’ll still need to export the original version and use a video-editing tool to merge them myself.

[hollow tapir]

That's what I've been doing yep!

[hollow tapir]

Working on a few for Mozi wash and drinksunbear

[frigid pier]

we are so cooked

[clever yoke]

I know. It is a half baked product. I expected better from Google or at least clear dos and donts

[rancid tree]

Only the first video has audio; is it correct that all other videos generated using “jump to” based on the first video have no sound?

[frigid pier]

lots of people who were working for the video stuff will lose their job soon

like for example, i ain't going to hire or make contracts with camera men

[hollow tapir]

This helped me a ton and was hard to find - https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow/faq

[clever yoke]

Which tool are you using to merge these videos

[hollow tapir]

iMovie 😅

[frigid pier]

iMovie?

[hollow tapir]

yes haha

[frigid pier]

can't u merge them on Flow?

[broken cairn]

No, the audio gets removed

[frigid pier]

as I know, u can also change sequences

[frigid pier]

wow

[robust zenith]

I use Davinci Resolve Studio to edit works great on Windows

[broken cairn]

Me too!

[wicked galleon]

i have subscribed to google ai one subscription it still says me to upgrade for credits in flow ?

[frigid pier]

i use adobe. pay $50 every month

[hardy frigate]

anybody tried increase video resolution in flow before downloading ? it's taking forever for me

[frigid pier]

i use photoshop, lightroom and premiere pro.

[broken cairn]

It also removes the audio if you do that

[wicked galleon]

?

[frigid pier]

i do not get why it has to remove the audio for that? hmm

[robust zenith]

So awesome! Got any tips on getting better at prompting stuff like this? I’m so green

[hardy frigate]

I've the Google ai ultra plan and it some time says failed to increase resolution

[frigid pier]

this gotta fix asap

[hardy frigate]

let report it in flow bugs feedback section

[rancid tree]

So does that mean that using Jump to with the veo3 model will include audio?

[robust zenith]

Davinci Resolve Studio lifetime access. Wait for a sale. Think I paid $220

[hollow tapir]

let's collab if you want! or just DM me but yeah, I'm compiling a lot of thoughts!

[frigid pier]

yea but i also use other adobe apps like photoshop and lightroom for image editing.

for now, I am spending money just not making any real profits with them.

[hardy frigate]

yeah any video come out of veo 3 have audio

[frigid pier]

i have to make some profits seriously

if not, it means i am doing some stupid show

my yt channel has 200s subscribers currently.
need to increase it to 10k this year

[frosty hare]

i make my living making videos for clients, very excited and scared on this evolution. but i'm in sweden cant jump in right now

[paper basalt]

hey i am new here

can anyone help me to create things in flow?

[frigid pier]

yes I see that little plant next to your username

[paper basalt]

it says you need some sort of acess?

[frigid pier]

u gotta be usa citizen. america first ok?

[hollow tapir]

nope. only plain text to video on 3

[robust zenith]

I’m planning on starting YT because of this. I’m just enjoying it so much and the thought of of producing my own short films

[paper basalt]

just start

[frigid pier]

good luck bud. lots of people will start it with you. 😉

[paper basalt]

i am?

[frigid pier]

bloody competition

[hardy frigate]

Me too I've the ultra plan with a bunch of credit so .. open to colab with anyone that has good idea to make money together

[robust zenith]

Yup! Thanks haha

[paper basalt]

how to get credits?

[frigid pier]

wait u sure?

u gotta be a usa citizen bro no joke.

google loves usa citizens.

[robust zenith]

I’m on Ultra plan right now

[paper basalt]

and then whats thee next step?

[frigid pier]

u can buy that ultra plan bro?

[paper basalt]

should i need to purchase anything?

damn

i think it is free to use

[frigid pier]

u should be a usa citizen as i said.

[hollow tapir]

250/month even for us USA citizens

[rigid lark]

Yo google people, when I select a single video to generate, it shouldn't showcase 2 of them. It should only show one of them when generating

[paper basalt]

and i said I AM

[robust zenith]

Ultra on sale in USA right now. $125 / mo for 3 months then it goes up to $250. 😵‍💫

[frigid pier]

i feel like the user capacity will decrease siginificantly when it becomes that third month

[paper basalt]

gawd why its not free initially

[rigid lark]

Does anyone know if this is a diffusion model? Or is the output being like streamed to a file

[robust zenith]

The tech is bleeding edge!

[frigid pier]

becoz they consume lots of energy and computer hardwares bro.
they spent insane money on it.

[paper basalt]

yes i know they do but also that is gooooogllleeeee bro

[frigid pier]

Do you see something? lots of ai services now require more charges.
I am worried about this situation.

[robust zenith]

Yeah, I’m gonna start budgeting now lol, if I’m still cranking on it after 3 months I’ll see what I can do to keep it going lol

[paper basalt]

i am worried that future will be more painful with latest tech they will make more money

[frigid pier]

greed is rolling hard now

[paper basalt]

pretty badly

[frosty hare]

they can price it that way since what they are competing against are big video productions, which will always cost 100x more than any number under $500

[frigid pier]

capitalism in nutsell

[hollow tapir]

I imagine it is costing them a shitton of resources to generate these videos, like maybe not even making money. Compute at this level is expensive.

[frigid pier]

yea true

[rigid lark]

@hollow tapir they are def operating at a loss rn

[mortal magnet]

If you make more money than you spend or save a significant portion of your time, I dont see a problem

[frigid pier]

but i am actually curious how many people sub ultra plan currently.
I think it's not that much because people think it's very expensive.

[hollow tapir]

prob depends what % of credits subscribers actually end up using, but yeah 😅

[robust zenith]

$125 is a perfect price for me right now. $250 is gonna sting

[frigid pier]

if people didn't sub it that much then google will reduce the cost 🙂

play the game bro.

[mortal magnet]

Noone got time to wait out the pricing

[frosty hare]

for people paying 250, how long does the credits last, or do you need to buy more to do any valuable work?

[paper basalt]

right

[frigid pier]

it's just same man

[hollow tapir]

The tool is powerful enough to generate legitimate returns also. I think it's the first one where I can see brands looking at AI generated content instead of traditional studio for their marketing projects

[frigid pier]

bro i just heard some machine gun sound but it was just construction site.
no war.

[paper basalt]

are you guys some sorts of content-creators?

[frigid pier]

yes i am

i had one contract with a singer before.

[robust zenith]

How much time are you guys spending on a prompt on average?

[frigid pier]

and the video was played in time square.

[paper basalt]

lets build something together

[hollow tapir]

Bro I literally had to download imovie for this 😂 But that's why i'm hyped is because even amateur can use this to make insane stuff

[paper basalt]

it depends what are we creating

[rigid lark]

We should do a competition

Who can make the best video

[paper basalt]

yes on youtube

or any google meet

[frigid pier]

but i am gonna say this to u guys.
clients think making things are so easy with ai nowadays.
so they dont wanna spend that much money for ai creators.
and making things correctly is so painful if u have contracts with clients :/

[hollow tapir]

much more time tryign to figure out how to construct a scene from the limited pieces and tools we have in this

[paper basalt]

its painful fact

[rigid lark]

yeah the ui is rlly bad rn

Like they made the sickest ai.

But it needs better ui.

[paper basalt]

flow ai?

[frosty hare]

would be great to have this inside premiere pro

[frigid pier]

whwnever i generate videos with characters move in the video
those charactes are fked up i mean especially when they are moving :/
but it may get better soon.

[paper basalt]

+1

[hollow tapir]

I'm glad they are leaving space. you can see it's not a bad Ui just empty. it will develop.

[rigid lark]

FS fs

[frigid pier]

i am sure google engineers used ai to generate that design.

they are just doing vibe coding yea

[frigid pier]

Can you still generate the video with Veo 3

[jade crest]

I heard that each person can only use VEO3 five times a day.

[frigid pier]

i dont think it's true

if that's true, paying $250 per month is a joke bro

[robust zenith]

That’s in Gemini I think. If you use flow it’s higher

[paper basalt]

i am not paying anything now

will see in future

[frigid pier]

wow u still cannot generate videos infinitely?

[frigid pier]

gud luk

[robust zenith]

You pay about $1 USD per generation

[frigid pier]

:0

[real cape]

That's silly

[frigid pier]

sounds horrible

[robust zenith]

It’s unlimited if you got the credits to burn!

[real cape]

Lol

In the future it will get chipper as the competition becomes much

[frigid pier]

I think I am going to unsub chatgpt and midjourney etc.
and sub only google ultra plan.

[robust zenith]

It’s addicting too, so much fun

[waxen lodge]

Hi, I still have a Pro account. Can I get access to Veo 3? Why isn't it available on my account?

[frigid pier]

u cannot do that bro

just be a ultra plan and also american citizen. america first ok?

[robust zenith]

https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow/

Ah

[frigid pier]

I kinda think it will take months for global users.

Veo 2 was like that. yeah.

[waxen lodge]

help

[robust zenith]

Country you live in?

[waxen lodge]

usa

[robust zenith]

Pro or Ultra?

[rancid tree]

Does Flow currently provide an API interface? I didn’t see any mention of it in the documentation.

[frigid pier]

i dont think so

[vital turtle]

Were you maybe using VPN when you signed up?

[rancid tree]

Can image-to-video only use 16:9 images? Portrait images don’t seem to be cropped very well.

[willow hatch]

While creating videos. how do I provide prompts for characters' dialogues ? Or is this only with Ultra? Ive Pro

[hollow tapir]

Only ultra!

[willow hatch]

Thanks! Has anyone give it a shot? Does it do a good job of lip sync with dialogues?

[hollow tapir]

It's insanely good 50% of the time, with lots of hiccups and caveats

[clever hull]

a quite urgent demand indeed, hope flow/veo team can seriously consider this

can you also go to flow-bugs-feedback to report this? I'm also in huge demand for this

[clever hull]

I also make shorts, 9:16 is a huge demand I suppose, given that more & more creators start making shorts!

[clear fox]

how do i keep the same character after i make a prompt on veo3, it seems like it changes with new prompt

[ancient hill]

why cant I use Flow in Uk

[jagged blaze]

Hi, what type of subscription is needed for veo3? Is Google Pro Ai enough?

[crisp basalt]

nope. You need Ultra Plan to gain access to Veo 3 model

[empty pine]

I want to creat vedio

[jagged blaze]

Got it. Thanks!!

[crisp basalt]

no prob do check out the faq page here : https://labs.google/fx/tools/flow/faq

[jade crest]

Gemini doesn’t support VEO3. The flow resets every 24 hours, with up to five uses per day.

[pine jolt]

but i can't use it in India

[reef trail]

what tool allows me to use veo3 except of the flow?

[pine jolt]

nothing as of now

[surreal eagle]

My flow videos doesnt have audio 😥

I have gemini pro subscription

[pine jolt]

that is veo 2

veo 3 is US only and you cannot use it without flow

[clear furnace]

how many videos credit you get with GOOGLE AI ULTRA (Sorry for writing in bold)

[nova bone]

If you're in US and subscribed to Pro you still can't access it. It says to subscribe and you get caught in an infinite loop, not able to use Veo3

a lot of people have that (flow-bugs-feedback room) but still no solution

very annoying

[clear furnace]

what is flow veo 3 limit ?

[primal sail]

[verbal raven]

so is veo3 only capable of one scene at a time, no extending?

and i notice after the first veo3 scene generation, the second scene I add via scene builder doesnt have any audio, even with i chose highest quality - is this a thing i need to be aware of? That it's really just one 8 second clip per project

[mellow hamlet]

which membership we need to use veo 3 ?

[jade crest]

I saw on platform X that someone said it’s five per day.

[spice owl]

oh.. it s not available in my country.. where i can see the country where is available?

[verbal raven]

ultra but in the US

[vagrant fossil]

i have google ai pro subscription
but it still shows that i can only generate 5-6 videos with veo 2
and flow to use veo 3 is showing i need a google ai one subscription which i already have
can anyone help me with what seems to be the issue?

[tiny patio]

Only available in 1 of 195 countries for now so you don't need a list.

[spice owl]

oh.. ok thank you.

I m new to this. Do you think it could make video from games? like cs 1.6? or just reallity videos.

[tiny patio]

No idea. I'm not in the US so haven't used it.

[spice owl]

oh. ok.

[vagrant fossil]

anyone?

can anyone give me some help on this

[spice owl]

is it working with VPN? :))

[vagrant fossil]

yeah flow opening and it doesn't show the usual prompt like it is not available in my country

[tiny patio]

They probably don't talk about bypassing country restrictions in the official discord 😄

[vagrant fossil]

but it is asking me to use google one subscription

its okay, i just wanna create some videos, not like its a crime

[spice owl]

for veo 3 you need ultra subscription.. that s 249,99 $ / month

kinda a lot =)))

[vagrant fossil]

but in normal google ai pro subscription, it shows i can use flow as one of the offerings

[tiny patio]

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for other countries. I never got off the VEO2 wait list.

[crisp basalt]

Veo 3 is currently only available for Ultra subscribers

[vital turtle]

To be fair, what is the definition of US-based users? US nationality? US physical location? US isp?
Google is actively not responding to the question if VPN is allowed or not, meaning it's probably legal if it happens to work.

But if you sign up to Pro, without VPN enabled (like I did), it won't work if you later activate the VPN 😦

[crisp basalt]

US Region server

Everything on your google account need to be US based only. This includes your google pay profile

[vital turtle]

Pretty sure I've seen people successfully use VPN though?

[crisp basalt]

yes. im one of them

[vital turtle]

But you have US Payment profile?

[crisp basalt]

yes

[vital turtle]

I see, US Credit cards as well?

[crisp basalt]

no

[vital turtle]

Hm

When they release 9:16 aspect ratio, I will consider new account and buying Ultra then

[crisp basalt]

thats fine 👌

[astral cloud]

I have a question how to submit a ticket?

[cedar sable]

Can i create video's using a promt?

[tulip stag]

hi everyone, nice to be here !

[tulip stag]

hi, so u managed to have veo3 working outside of us with vpn and pro ? isnt there a billing issues with non US cards ? im tryign to fidn a solution to use it from EU, even just api with vertex will be a bless

[frigid pier]

someone ban this

[scenic panther]

hey @small elk @patent stone @spark delta can you guys do something with this spammer?

[torpid cedar]

Ban this user. He posting the same message everywhere

Thanks

[scenic panther]

thank you!!

[odd ridge]

Hi thanks for posting this. Do you know how I can export the 1080 version of the video? I am choosing the download option and then selecting 1080p but its downloading a GIF version with no audio. How can I fix the export?

[maiden grove]

is flow using veo3? or is it gatekeeped for ultra plan?

[cursive sorrel]

I'm having issue with no audio even with 1080p downloads. I have to upscale multiple times until one doesnt fail as well.

[torpid cedar]

Veo 3 is definitely going viral everywhere!

[tulip shell]

Im from the Netherlands. When can I start creating with flow? Not available in my region it says

[torpid cedar]

Regardless of it's issues

[jade crest]

It seems that partners on other platforms have already started internal testing.

[brave kindle]

Did you created a whole new account or simply edited your region details ?

[reef fog]

Hi, good morning everyone!!! Newbie here...

I got the Ultra plan and try to generate a few videos in Flow but non of them have sound...

is there a suggestion on how to fix this

[tame birch]

howdy guys just signed up to check out flow and veo3,, curious how to switch it to generate portrait mode vids

[lavish holly]

did you try just prompting that in?

[tame birch]

i got one that i prompted "no dialogue just ambient sounds you would hear in a grocery store" and it gave me a loud metal song,, then the next one no sound

[tame birch]

nop other vid ges i used you set the aspect ration in settings, i couldnt find any info on it and didnt wanna waste gens guessing, so you prompt in your aspect ratios, thanks

[lavish holly]

honestly i dont know because i didnt use flow yet myself, but im curious whether such approach would be possible. Im guessing you cant set aspect ratio via prompt but it might be possible to make it generate the video in a 90 degree angle, effectively making it vertical when you rotate the export afterwards.

[tame birch]

nope, that rendered a portrait mode video image inside a landscape mode size, wiht black bars on side,, and then had the characters rotated so they were horizontal.. oh and it for some reason thru some super loud kazoo music in there,,

[sand pond]

My newest obsession: Counting fingers and checking eye pupils after each generation. 😵‍💫🥴

[tame birch]

it messing htem up that often?

i am still trying to figure out how to get portrait vids

[sand pond]

All generative models do that. No way around that I think, gotta try multiple times.

[signal ice]

Hello, i can access now Flow! Bugs fixed. But i cant create audio videos without Ultra?

[tame birch]

ya Karan the audio one is super expensive, and from what i'm finding its not quiet ready ,, well not for that price point

[tame birch]

i rarely find that in sora, or kling i mean ocasionaly,, but its not common

[signal ice]

When i try upload photo, all uploads violate policy.

[ember thistle]

With some finagling I found the audio to be pretty darn good!! https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ersansaribal_google-deepmind-veo3-activity-7331398565795164161-LFuU

[ember thistle]

Yes, that's my understanding

[tame birch]

ya yo cant upload dongs,

[wild ember]

too low credits bro

[tame birch]

nice video, had to figure out my linkd in ,pasword rarely use it, since you an ai pro you know how to get portrait mode vids out of veo, i do a lot of social media stuff and the the 9:16 format is a must,

[ember thistle]

I have no idea how to get portrait mode out of Flow lol. 4:5 is the best for LinkedIn, I believe

[tame birch]

also everytime i try dialogue,, it puts in subtitles,,which i would not mind,, but the spelling is somehow worse than my actual spellin

[final tendon]

Try omitting double quotes or quotes

[pearl comet]

any idea how to turn off subtitles in prompts

[alpine warren]

Question - I just got veo2 for the first time and am trying to make one specific scene and I'm trying to be clear about what I want and also putting it into gemini and chat gpt to make sure it makes sense and I still am not getting what I'm looking for from veo2. Is there a chance that veo3 would be able to do this and that veo2 just isn't advanced enough?

[frozen quail]

Great news that veo3 has gone international! Unfortunately I’ve seen recent reviews and there seems to be no image uploading allowed just yet. I’ll wait until the bigger bugs get fixed.

[robust zenith]

It took about 2 days for them to open up Image upload in the USA

[ember thistle]

Same here. My only solution has been to upscale and crop the damn subtitles out

[ember thistle]

I would imagine veo3 is better at following the prompts. I've had pretty good luck with it. It certainly produces higher quality videos

[alpine warren]

That's good to know, I'm trying to do this elevator thing that's a POV of the doors opening and crazy things happen and then the POV persons hand frantically is changing floors. No luck at all though lol. Thank you very much!

[frozen quail]

Oh it’s already available?

[ember thistle]

You could try asking Gemini to improve your prompt so the video gen AI has a higher chance of interpreting it correctly

Explain the specific output you want, as well as what you've been getting, and why it's not correct

[vital turtle]

Where is that stated?

[foggy laurel]

Quick Q, Do i need to have ultra for the videos to have audio?

[flint summit]

Too tell you the truth, I was willing to pay $125 for 80 vids, but unless it gets significantly better quick I won't be renewing for a 2nd month.

[proud mesa]

anyone know how to set flow to only generate one version vs two to save on the credits being used?

[robust zenith]

So, when I signed up to Ultra it gave me 12,500 credits. ($125 = $1 per 100 credits) and using the new Veo 3 highest quality w/ VOICE feature it appears to cost 150 credits ($1.50) - You also have an option to create 1-4 generations off of the same prompt, in hopes that 1 of them will be perfect right? But it also CONSUMES 150 credits for each of the 4 generations, so that burned me pretty hard until I realized it.

[proud mesa]

yea thats why i want to set flow to one generation

[final tendon]

Where have you seen this? It’s still unavailable in Europe.

[proud mesa]

How did i miss this!!!!! thank you so much! and it lets me set the model and fast is only 10 credits!!!!

[robust zenith]

I already bought $25 worth of creds cause I was getting low, and I'm doing a project for a friend today to try and actually create something solid instead of just spamming random daydreams lol

[proud mesa]

but im using mostly ingredients so its 100 regardless of model

[sharp dome]

wOW

Flow is really expensive

the generation cost is really stiff

[quiet badger]

When will veo 3 be available in other countries and will there be a chance to try it for free?

[proud mesa]

thankyou! this is good to know.

[mellow gust]

Hi guys, new here

[frozen quail]

Thanks! 👍

[robust zenith]

Hell yeah, would love to see it!

[proud mesa]

Ive been bounching from Sora to kling to freepick and now flow. I need to have a consistent character set in many scenes and flow is helping with that while kling is letting me replace people and sora lets me extend clips then i run though topaz to uprez

[robust zenith]

Is Veo 2 prompting pretty similar? I think I should practice with this more than using veo 3 with the cheaper credit options

Nice, whats your YT channel?

Nice, I'm working on getting a YT channel setup today too.

@edgy holly - Are there any good sources to learn Veo 2 prompting? Will Gemini teach me or ChatGPT? 😄 I feel like there are some more nuances or tricks that I need to learn.

Great advice, I'll get one spun up, thank you!

Nice, just subbed to your YT also, thanks man

[sharp dome]

jesus the credit is burned way too quickly

it makes me really sad GOD DAMN IT!

[robust zenith]

Sonds like you're past the daydream / honeymoon phase. I just passed that also! - Focus more on improving your prompting skills bro

[sharp dome]

why do you assume my prompting skill is bad

I feel offended

[robust zenith]

Apologies, I'm just basing off my bad prompting. No offense

[sharp dome]

ain't the cost very stiff?

each gen is 100~150 and 25 bucks gets you only about 15 videos

[timid iris]

quick question is flow still geo locked to US accounts?

To sign up to Google AI Pro seems to work in Canada, Is that the only requirement to have the AI subscription?

[robust zenith]

I believe Pro gives you access to multiple models and the new Flow app. You'll have a more limited number of generations with Pro I believe. But you could start with that, see what it gives you access to, and decide to upgrade to Ultra if you're happy w/ it?

[vapid stratus]

I was finally able to upgrade to Ultra but I'm still not able to generate anything.

[placid sluice]

If I generated a video that is supposed to have audio (150 credits), and it doesn't produce the audio, is there a way for me to get those credits back?

[lyric grotto]

has any one tried generating vertical videos? Is there a way to do it?

[sharp dome]

Can I not extend with Veo3?

I want to extend the clip but it only generates voiceless

I used Jump but to use Veo3 to make the original clip longer but then the clip has no sound

How do I contact Flow customer service? My credits got burned cuz of the bug

[cloud bobcat]

are there animations generated with this tool? i only ever see realistic

[jade stump]

This tool is amazing

[lyric grotto]

Is there a plan for that?

[cloud bobcat]

that looks amazing, ty

this is made with veo2 fast? @edgy holly

can u make extended clips with that tool or just singular ones?

[tepid wadi]

how do you put audio in ur videos?

[cloud bobcat]

holy, and does it actually work well?

[near gate]

hey, does anyone here have a prompt they want to try? I want to generate my first vid just dont know what xd

[grave spindle]

I have a quick question, does Google offer a team subscription for Flow for organizations that don’t use Google Workspace? My team and I are interested in the AI Ultra, but I didn’t see any mention of a standalone teams plan, so I wanted to double-check.

[thorn pilot]

Hi new user here, any idea when Flow will be released to the UK ???

[cloud bobcat]

lets do it, tysm

[ionic steppe]

Como puedo usar la app??

[cloud bobcat]

holy this is great

[ornate kindle]

Generation video

[vital turtle]

I'm ASKING where it is stated that it's not allowed?

[cloud bobcat]

do u know how u can add a next scene that plays in the same universe(style and characters r the same) so not stitched together like u showcased? Basically a bit like the video u just commented on on the other channel

[warm sage]

Hey guys I'm new here. Quick question : do you get unlimited use of Veo 3 with the subscription or is there like... a token limit or something ?

[flint summit]

Has anyone gotten audio with a starting image yet? If you did please post it with your prompt.

[willow hatch]

How do I add audio to the clip I'm trying to generate. I provided script/dialogus as part of the prompt but I still don't see audio being generated. I do have Ultra subscription. Any pointers will be appreciated.

[urban horizon]

Is anyone else struggling to get the upscaled outputs? ive been waiting like 5 minutes...

will it come or am I missing something? For Veo3

[sterile parcel]

Hey guys, I have a Google workspace subscription but wanna use flowise, but it says I must have Google one, is it possible to get it with workspace or buy credits

[sturdy rune]

Hi folks - I got the 3 month promo deal for Google AI Ultra and am wondering if I can use the same clip (different in/out points) in scene builder.

[restive badger]

anyone else dissapointted in the amount of missfires? almost every 3rd video has captions and or no audio

[flint summit]

Yeah, and its too expensive to try and fix mistakes. That's why I'm going to cancel after my first month if nothing changes.

[restive badger]

im loving it. huge step forward. its just when you arent even getting something usable it feels bad from a user experience perspective.

[flint summit]

But I wouldn't be surprised if they offer some bonus credits to us early adopters (hint hint). I seem to recall something like that happening before.

[restive badger]

thats good news. means they are iterating on it quickly

[wild anchor]

hey guys quixk question... can u do prompts with audio when ur doing frames to video? Mine is not working every video is always mute

Or is it just a misfire?

[halcyon vector]

nah audio is T2v only. especially voices. Someitmes you can get some SFX with frames but for me its only like 10% of the time

[sharp dome]

I finished

my little project, inspired by the huge price of Veo3

Hmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sopOUiphIY0

why is the thumbnail wrong

[ornate stirrup]

Same here. I was only able to download the original size

[indigo torrent]

What is the process for getting Veo 3 to add audio in frame to video? It seems like it only works in text to video. Whyyyy?

[placid sluice]

it's a bit glitchy, sometimes it shows up for that option and sometimes it doesn't

[mint comet]

is there a way for veo to incorporate the same characters or renditions and use them for different scenes ? im having a hard time maintaining uniformity in characters

[ebon robin]

i apologize if this question has already been asked, but how do I add sound/vo to my scene? I'm struggling with it currently adding my "vo" text as onscreen text and can't get any sound.

[halcyon vector]

use only text to video mode with "highest quality"

[vital turtle]

The ToS that no one reads? And a chat message somewhere lost in cyber space? Okay.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying they are not enforcing it, since they probably legally can't allow the service in the EU (yet) because of regulations, but won't stop users from bypassing it (because then it's not their problem).

[lavish lava]

Is veo 3 now only 10 credits per gen now?

Or is this just a glitch for me

used to be 150

[halcyon vector]

UI bug for sure

[icy ferry]

Why do I get this error when I am subscribed?

Anybody else experince this?

[oak socket]

im seeing a regression in output as of today - quality of video and audio is much lower than yesterday

[wild oracle]

@edgy holly - thanks for your help yesterday, bud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od1GjhllUQU Here is what I was able to pull off.

[signal ice]

Any plans to VEO 3 for AI Pro subscribers?

[wild oracle]

Aww thanks. This has been fun. Good vibes all around. The discord thing is rad. On we go!

[willow hatch]

Ive an ultra subscription. Is there a mechanism to add voice over in my scene for characters? I provided that as a prompt but it ignored it completelye.

[clear spruce]

any reason why im unable to login to flow after purchasing a sub?

[willow hatch]

Got it, thanks! In the meantime how're people adding voice over to scenes they create?

BTW the videos they shared as well as some of the other posts might have implied Ultra had the voice over.

[fierce nimbus]

Voice and Sound come natievly with our Highest Quality Model Veo 3. You can find this setting in the top right of the prompt box.

[hidden shoal]

Hey was there a change in the credits recently? It used to charge me 150 for Veo 3 but now I am seeing only 100? Maybe I am doing it wrong.

Also on a separate note, has anyone been able to generate in 4K lately? I tried looking this up but havent seen anything.

I guess the video by Google DeepMind can be misleading then. It was in 4K.

[robust zenith]

I'm guessing they don't have the 4k res open to the public yet? since it's probably a massive lift?

[crisp basalt]

I’m guessing the 4K option’s only for select people or companies that are seriously into filmmaking. 🫡

[tawdry inlet]

is it possible to use frame to clip and extend an AI clip with additional audio. All attempts ive tried have failed and ive wasted thousands of AI credits

[willow hatch]

I'm seeing "Failed Generation" at the 100% mark consistently. Are others seeing it too? Funny thing is ... upon failure, it should still keep the promt in the text box so I can retry but it loses that so I've to retype it all.

[crisp basalt]

Woke up to that news a few hours ago and immediately had to generate a vid lol. thank you so much @hardy halo and the whole staff and team for making it happen! ❤️

[minor rune]

Is it normal I don't have AI credits on one account of my family member?

It's only the primary account that can access flow?

[broken cairn]

For me they dropped it to just 100 credits

[tawdry inlet]

I hope so because im getting raked with failures went through 20,000 credits today and got a handful of usable things

[tawdry inlet]

Also would be nice to get a refund considering they dropped the price 50% since yesterday, I dropped $300 yesterday alone...

[sharp dome]

what when?

[tawdry inlet]

Credits were 150 per video for Veo 3 and they are 100 credits as of today

Veo 2 went from 100 credits to 10

[sharp dome]

ah veo2 is 10

veo3 went from 150 -> 100?

[tawdry inlet]

Here is Veo 3

[broken cairn]

I remember when it released it was 250 per generation

[sharp dome]

Well I am so f- sad I burned off all my credits while it was 150

[crisp basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebobsquarepants-gif-9146238

[tawdry inlet]

And we are expected to eat that cost because we are alpha testers?

I get paying to test, I don't really get dropping the price 200% in 2 weeks and not making adjustments

[sharp dome]

I did so far 40 gens, so I am 40*50 = 2000 credits off

sad

[tawdry inlet]

Im at 50000 credits in 2 days

[sharp dome]

can't imagine your pain

[crisp basalt]

You were an early access?

[tawdry inlet]

no

[crisp basalt]

Then wdym alpha tester

[sharp dome]

he is saying it was 100 on fast

[crisp basalt]

It was never 100 on fast tho

[tawdry inlet]

Signed up yesterday, I am talking about the price change between today and yesterday, and this is clearly an alpha considering 60% of my generations fail with subtitles even when I ask not to do it

[crisp basalt]

Yall trippin 😭 I swear

It’s not in alpha stage anymore if they released the tool for public

[tawdry inlet]

lol doesn't mean it's not alpha level code, releasing it to the public doesn't make it finished by any means and it's def not beta quality, its more Alpha or RC

[broken cairn]

Yeah Alpha was wayy buggier than this. But it was free

[crisp basalt]

Try to explain your point with a bit more reasoning instead of just reacting emotionally because you feel like you "wasted" money on a tool.

[tawdry inlet]

Either way I am not unhappy with it, but the pricing is a bit iffy for how much it fails to do anything. One of my videos came out in a different language completely

[gentle cargo]

trippin on some lippers, trip trippin' on some lip 🎶

[tawdry inlet]

I didn't waste money on a tool, I do this commercially and we are testing to see if it has a usage

[crisp basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-trip-kid-gif-11852450

[sharp dome]

for all the salty people, I have pulled and collected my creative energy and created this piece as a memorial of our frustration

[crisp basalt]

If that cat ain’t me

[sharp dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sopOUiphIY0&t=39s

Veo 3? MORE LIKE VEO THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS!

[crisp basalt]

That’s good 👍