(canceled) Notezy's Moons

[heady girder]

forgot text chat

[zenith apex]

btw the effect did work before with them

but after the shift it was gone

and they became hatless

you can also see i became a ghost through my friends lux and snue's pov

[heady girder]

Ohhh, so if you're an echo ghost to their POV, then you shouldn't be able to see them since they are in the future realtive to your current time

So for some reason, only their hats dissapeared and not their entire models

Btw I love seeing clips of my moons

[zenith apex]

more.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1310686160343007343/1411169601718587554/Lethal20Company202025-08-292021-58-06.mov?ex=68b3ad9b&is=68b25c1b&hm=e42c1993bd18a1f79989e4ded07dfc7c86bbcfcdd985d4e58ecf4a43ab88249b&

[heady girder]

https://tenor.com/vU5CPaXruWr.gif

[lunar ember]

👏😭
alright nah
majora moon's getting blacklisted

-# it's without sound because audio screwed up

[heady girder]

XD

should probably not have the time machine effect players in the ship while it's leaving

[lunar ember]

well I came back into the ship in like a 00:30:00 before the impact, so I kinda deserved it for being greedy
and the time machine starter winding up few seconds before the autopilot

you can however make the time machine pause it's winding up when the ship is departing/after pulling the lever to prevent such cases

[heady girder]

Found out this is caused by model replacement API forcing the player models to always be enabled

[lunar ember]

I doubt seeing fixed time inside the interior is intentional right?

[heady girder]

no :(

[zenith apex]

pretty sure lethal emotes api is also a culprit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1310686160343007343/1411177442508279929/Lethal20Company202025-08-292022-26-38.mov?ex=68b45da8&is=68b30c28&hm=8bd3c46db8833dc64cd0c372845e13191c0e9e749ef2110b46f5c2e2a5f7fa49&

[heady girder]

peculiar

[atomic bronze]

Only one I know LQ has problems with atm moon-wise is GenericMoons v8.0, otherwise it's usually enemy/trap related

[heady girder]

Updates

Recede V0.0.3

• Enemies in the future now appear as echo ghosts
• Fixed Model Replacement API causing players in the future to not vanish to players in the past
• Fixed Suits breaking after time traveling
• Fixed time travel effect for widescreen players
• Added tip when landing on the moon for the very first time
• Fixed True Timeline Clock not hiding with the normal clock
• Added tip when time traveling for the very first time

would you guys prefer if a day was extended from 11.5 minutes to 16.8 minutes to account for the extra hours at the start of a cycle? (12AM to 7AM)

[lunar ember]

"Fixed True Timeline Clock not hiding with the normal clock"\

I mean it does hides but (at least first time travel) exposes both time clocks

may be improvedclock thing but I check that out on vanilla clock later today

[heady girder]

It's a bug with recede somehow turning on the normal clock

[lunar ember]

yeah and if it's raining, it's raining inside as well as the game treats you that you're outside smh

that also happened but before v0.0.3

[heady girder]

Also what mod gives the invitentory slots item values?

that looks cool

[lunar ember]

QualityCompanyFork

it feels buggy at times, but I don't mind it and didn't saw any gamebreaking bugs from the mod
I just disabled all of ship monitors configs from the mod to not overlap with GI's monitors

[heady girder]

Adding more Features to NotezyLib

[steady cobalt]

hey i had an idea for a moon that vanish over time

[heady girder]

peculiar

[lost dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scritch-scratch-gif-23659187

[lunar ember]

But what would happen if you reach 12 AM at day 0 of the quota
Would you get left behind?
Actually
Imagine if that happens, you reach 12 AM after day 0 of quota, the ship leaves you behind and you get "get fired" screen

[steep sky]

Reminds me of that one ladder glitch from nms

You know if this moon is going to have a day night cycle maybe the time should be a bit slower

I would say "balance" but i don't have much of a reason rn.......mostly because my brain is super fried but i think it might be worth considering.

[random crater]

at the start of the final day of the quota cycle there should be a warning kind of like the midnight one

to make it a bit clearer what will happen when the day end s

[lunar ember]

that was actually really cool
-# don't ask why there's no sound I'm tired of it 😔

[heady girder]

Almost, the ship will just instantly leaves to trigger the fire sequence in sapce, although with the way I set it up the ship would leave before the 0th day to give players a chance to sell.

[heady girder]

There are several warnings in place on the last day. The clock icon turns into a skull at night, the ship leave icon is activate and the ship will say that it will leave on this cycle

[heady girder]

Cycles are already extended from 11 minutes to 16 minutes because of the extra 6 hours at the start of each cycle

[heady girder]

unusual

[tropic oak]

BALDIS BASICS PLUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[slate perch]

Heyo, I just found out your moons very recently and it looks very fun ! I might try it out one day 😌
Also, it looks very complex for some mods to be 100% compatible on some moons, i hope its not a problem lmao because i never saw multiple interiors in a single map before, and incompatibility with CullFactory could be something that people will not like... i hope this can be fixed someday

[slate perch]

ok lmao, i just arrived in this thread and there is already funny majora clips 😂

[lunar ember]

yeah, a couple of them

[slate perch]

The next majora release will improve compat with many time manipulation effects so it should react better (the moon will actually be re positioned higher in the sky)

[slate perch]

Yeah i just noticed lmao

I did not expect that but its funny

[lunar ember]

I will be able to enable LGU's quantum disruptor lets goooo

[heady girder]

The dev of cull factory has added compatibility with multiple interiors, but it's currently on the beta branch of the mod.

[slate perch]

Ah i see, good news anyway

[slate perch]

idk what this is but probably yeah

[lunar ember]

a funny upgrade that slows the flow of time
someone already reported how majora moon was overlapping into the floor because of it

[slate perch]

Ah this one, ok, yeah this will be fixed no problem

I think

Oh, but i have a question

[lunar ember]

as a player of 222 mods solopack I didn't found very much issues except for LQ and conflux lack of compat

[slate perch]

If the time is skipped into the future, theorically it is possible to skip beyond Majora timer no ?

[heady girder]

with some bad RNG, yeah

[lunar ember]

it does yeah

[slate perch]

💀

[lunar ember]

recede with majora moon works better than I thought lol
-# at least on solo

[slate perch]

If that happens I think players might die like... instantly

which is very funny lmao

[lunar ember]

at least on solo because recede's time machine sends everyone individually afaik
some will travel into the past, some into the future

so idk how it would behave overall on majora moon lol

[slate perch]

oh 💀 💀

This is very bad

[lunar ember]

I can only theorize (as a loner without a friends) that the majora takes the countdown from the host

-# still pretty weird

[slate perch]

Well

Yes and no

[lunar ember]

key word: theorize

[slate perch]

Yeah lol

Youll see for yourself

[lunar ember]

oh?

[steep sky]

I hope eventually once all of the hard work is done that the moon's look eventually will change when time shifts. Like it starts normal but you eventually see the moon as it was in the past before it was abandoned (||either nature related or a town still being present||) and if you go into the future seeing what could be its future fate (||like it being destroyed or somehow being even more abandoned or make like sonic CD and become hyper developed and mechanized||) not really important and DEFINITELY should come last but its on my feature wishlist.

It also would make sense for the shift to be temporary and for all shifts to cease upon leaving.

[heady girder]

The effects from shifting should be reset once the ship leaves the moon

[steep sky]

Ye

I'm very curious what your vision for the shifting will be.....not trying to presume. I can't wait to see what it'll all looks like.....if only i had my own recede machine....wait

[lunar ember]

I mean I think it's supposed to be a planet
-# if we're talking about final moon

[steep sky]

I was referring to recede

If the planet is the only one that time shifts (beyond changing the time left) or if both of them do that's also cool. None of them could do it and that would be fine hence why its on my feature wishlist and NOT necessity list.

I just think it would be cool and i think would totally add to the time travel experience.

[heady girder]

Lemme draw a diagram

[steep sky]

[heady girder]

The moon has 2 timelines, the true timeline and the recede timeline.
The time machine only effects the recede timeline which is the timeline where events like enemies spawning, players being outside, and the clock follow.
The time machine only shifts a few hours back or forward in the recede timeline, so it's not really like it will be shifting to 100 years in the future or past.

[lunar ember]

...nah I'm too stupid for that 😅

[steep sky]

Will i figure it probably would send you back to the normal time after a 30 seconds or a minute and is less of it actually sending you back fully and is more time warping overlapping the past with where you really are.

like taking plastic wrap coloring one half red and the other blue while keeping a middle strip uncolored and then folding the blue over the Middle. If you put your finger on the middle clear strip but fold the blue side over it yeah it not looks blue but it's still in the middle clear part in reality.

In that vein you could make it so everything flashes or has energy crackle somewhat making it look like the area is unstable before it violently sends you to the normal time.

Well "time" anyway

Even though I say time it's more like the parallax dimension thing except it's time adjacent here.

Basically you're there but not actually you're just seeing the past in a way where it looks like you're sent but you're not. That's how I kinda imagined it personally.

In a way it doesn't fully contradict the timeline lore wise or mechanically because the terrain and everything can remain the same but maybe the shaders or weather is but different? Maybe some map objects change or ones appear that weren't there in the present or ones in the past and present change or aren't there in the future?

Everything else can remain unchanged I just thought that it would be very interesting.

I think it would also be fair to NOT change scrap, monsters, doors, or anything that exists in the present time and mostly just change map related things or add new things that are only in those time zones.

Basically every now small chance to temporarily time zone shift, see different things maybe new things for like a minute, come back and everything is normal for a while.

[zenith apex]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-do-you-feel-it-gif-5980427

[steep sky]

The machine was so powerful it disrupted the universe

[lunar ember]

[steep sky]

....I just thought of something stupid.

What if because of the time machine thunder storms are more common because it's charging up the atmosphere?

Don't actually do this.

[steep sky]

Nooooooo

[glossy cave]

notezy's comedy is peak ngl

[heady girder]

I was actually thinking of having thundeing weathering cause random instant time shifts when lighting strikes the time machine

But that was a little more unstable and caused more bugs thant the normal time shifts

[steep sky]

Revisit this when version 1 is done

[zenith apex]

what if

we had a time disruption weather

(pretty much recede's gimmick but it can happen in any moon)

[steep sky]

That could be interesting, we should save this for later. Does pawsy have a pin message command?

[heady girder]

Yes

[steep sky]

I don't have permission apparently

Dangit

[steep sky]

Anyway

[heady girder]

obtuse

[glossy cave]

omfg

😭

notezy completed Lethal Company modding

at this rate notezy will make lethal company inside lethal company

[spiral cove]

Out of all people in the modding community, you're pushing lethal to its absolute limits, from what I can tell.

[heady girder]

yep! :D

[lost dawn]

get this person on the CodeRebirth team

(joke (unless))

[heady girder]

Can't consider it, I've seen CodeRebirth's source code. Their programming is way more complex than mines.

Quoting from a video I saw, cannot remember "For gamers, it doesn't matter what your code looks like; it only matters what it does. For developers, it matters what the code looks like and does. Especially when working on a team"

which is why I barely touched REPO modding. Because I assume when working on a team the code needs to be way more sorted, cleaner, and complex than working solo.

There are so many induvial classes for the Enemy AI in repo than compared to the one Enemy AI class in lethal

[glossy cave]

you still are way to smart for this

you literally have made things that were thought of impossible before

[flint rampart]

is it intentional for the echo ghost nutcrackers to see you in any timeline?

[heady girder]

no :(

[steep sky]

You are a true pioneer and innovator

I feel 0 shame saying that I really admire your work dude

[heady girder]

Thanks!

I feel like I haven't said the enough, all of your guys response really mean a lot to me.

The only thing holding me back is my lack of moon design skilz, but I think I'm getting better.

[steep sky]

Well your kind of work I'd say means a lot when a lot of mods kinda fall into similar paths especially since modding in general has gotten a bit quiet. We need more things like parallax, coderebirth, and just in general new things that haven't been made like out of the box stuff.

[lunar ember]

Same thing happened with thumper

[lunar ember]

[lunar ember]

Exactly
Breaking bounds of lethal company like this with time travel, inverted landing, multiple interiors, dividing the moon into the parts making it more of a planet, or pararrel layouts feels insane
I thought the dev bounds would end on modificating ship landings that oxyde or synthesis does

[steep sky]

not to mention DIMENSION SPLITTING

it's still insane to me that parralax was the first of your moons because man you came out SWINGING.

[glossy cave]

For me the craziest one is conflux

And even more making it a lib

[steep sky]

in many ways yes but making more than one interior code wise seems simpler than MAKING MULTIPLE DIMENSIONS that exist physically separate from one another while also **not **actually being their own spaces.

[lunar ember]

I named it pararrel layouts as I never been on parallax yet

[lunar ember]

It's a shame that's not compatible with LQ because it explodes when I experimented or did unwanted things

[glossy cave]

Time for Lunar Config to shine

[lunar ember]

What's this?

Can it replace LQ?

WILL it replace LQ?

[glossy cave]

It will replace everything

In Lunar Config we trust

Seems that there is gonna be a "beta" version coming up close

Wont have all features

[steep sky]

but how easy is it to use compared to LQ, LLL, and lethal variables?

[glossy cave]

But will have the basics

[glossy cave]

Wtf is lethal variables xD

I think i've heard of it once

[random crater]

Paths? 👀
||Only 3 people including me will understand this reference||

But that won't be long......

[glossy cave]

Idk, LQ has an entire web page, its extremely comfy

[random crater]

Not for long. ... . .

[glossy cave]

Idk if Lunar will be like thst

[glossy cave]

Cabinet 2???

:0

[steep sky]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AMRV/LethalCompanyVariables/

[glossy cave]

Cute

[random crater]

Probably not any time soon ):
Hint: I'm saying this in a moon thread for a reason
Cabinet 2 would be quite the heartstopping experience though

[steep sky]

it's what i used until i had problems between it and LLL specifically when i turned on LLL's configuration file toggle for moons.

[glossy cave]

So many moon threads

And you chose this one

Mmmmm

[steep sky]

LQ is what i switched to after which fixed everything.

[random crater]

Yes because these moons have WILD MECHANICS

And they said the keyword

[glossy cave]

:000⁰000

Vector cooking again???

Really looking forward

[steep sky]

LV is made by AMRV the same dude who made configurable company.

[random crater]

We don't have devs yet
Gonna start looking for them when the concept is documented better
There's too much bullshit in my life to learn to make moons rn

[glossy cave]

Sad

[steep sky]

i feel their pain

[glossy cave]

Seems like making moons isnt as hard as we think

Tho if you wanna do more wacky things

Thats when it gets harder

You could...

Ask notezy...

Maybe he will be interested

[random crater]

It's not hard but as I've said LIFE doesn't allow me the energy for ot

And yeah it's gonna have wacky shit
I wouldn't ask notezy though because notezy is too busy cooking

[glossy cave]

Sad:(

[steep sky]

will it though be eventually as comprehensive as LQ? if it will be then i'll happily switch.....as long as it doesn't conflict with anything that is.

[glossy cave]

I mean, at least for help hehe

[glossy cave]

You could ask that in their thread

[steep sky]

seriously i can't go through an LV incident agian.

[glossy cave]

I have no idea how its gonna work

I only know its a new config mod

That sounds very promising

[random crater]

One could say it's bone chilling

[lunar ember]

My first LQ which was broken later on

[steep sky]

i haven't had LQ fail me yet and i hope it doesn't for a while. it also seems to do more than LV used to which for me was a bonus especially for the mod collection idea i had.

[lunar ember]

Idk man
Tony managed to smh make his moons while me as a grown-ass man don't know how to lol

[random crater]

Am I a troglodyte for using central config?

[lunar ember]

Yes

[steep sky]

i tried that for a while in my early days of playing mods. found it limited but better than lethal editor.

than after that i found LV and never looked back....until about a month ago anyway.

i went through a phase of looking for various lethal company editors and i found LV right when it was new, went through like 5 different config mods before that.

whatever you do though do NOT use lethal utilities. major pain in the ass that can barely do anything and was the first one i used.

anyone who uses lethal utilities to me is a masochist, no question.

[glossy cave]

We can learn

Dont give up

[lunar ember]

I remember "notezy-ish concept" of a moon I had on my mind, where the time stops sometimes including sounds and entities in complete stillness

Like for example it's 11 AM and time starts to slow down, more more more to complete stop including entities and ambient
After some time the time resumes where it gets slowly faster and faster back to normal
Phasing like that time slowing watch from coderebirth

[slate perch]

You should consider making some of them as weather effect, really (well, only if you want of course)

[lunar ember]

For real
Time machine somewhere in horizontal background that works exactly like on recede would be amazing to see on different moons

-# you both should collab for the 3rd legend weather after blood moon

[slate perch]

Lmao, im sure Notezy has the skills to make that without help

[lunar ember]

Maybe maybe

[granite shadow]

you are!

[flint rampart]

sorry for the late follow up question, so does that mean something is conflicting? like lets say starlaceraifix or pathfinding lag fix? btw love your Recede so much! it's just that the echo nutcrackers entrance camping is a pain

[lunar ember]

but does echo ghost nutcrackers shoot you and you die?

or does nothing to you?
I have the same thing with thumper, so I'm pr sure that's a bug

[heady girder]

It's an oversight. Simply the mod thinks that nutcrackers can't see players as echo ghosts so the mod doesn't make then resistant. Because of their kicking attack can't hurt players but they still can see players. Will defeintly fix that in the next update

I forgot to make it so enemies cant so you as echo ghosts, I only made it so enemies can't colide with you as echo ghosts

[flint rampart]

got blasted

[flint rampart]

i see i see, thank you for clarifying! will wait for the update

[heady girder]

Thinking about that after I made parallax. A weather that splits all of the scrap between 2 dimensions, was going to name it something like "PARALLAXED".

[slate perch]

Thats a good idea

And a fun one also

[lunar ember]

hell yeah

[random crater]

what the fortnite

[glossy cave]

I was thinking of a moon concept, kinda inspired on old LC bugs, where each person would see a different weather, moon layout, interior and maybe even enemies or smth, but they can still see each other

[steep sky]

Ayo, his body got dragged through time and space dude.

[steep sky]

I actually like that and it could lead to some REAL mind fuckery. Imagine your walking around and your buddy just phases through a wall and doesn't even see you.

I mean it would take a MASSIVE amount of coding and a specialized library but I love the idea of every player having their own seed, interior, scrap, and monsters but still being synced and visible to one another.

[lunar ember]

now that was mean
-# feat. mu on vc (not my actual voice )

[steep sky]

Well that just makes me curious what your actual voice is like

[lunar ember]

you know tyler1?
that's how I sound like

I'm tyler1 secretly but retired from LoL

[lunar ember]

I eventually clip something with my voice accidentally but this time I couldn't really talk anymore
maybe on #game-clips I had some clips

[heady girder]

yep gonna fix that outside while inside bug gimmie a few minutes

[lunar ember]

[steep sky]

Oh god my mic is awful 🤣

[heady girder]

you underwater? XD

[steep sky]

🤓

[zenith apex]

https://tenor.com/view/31-31-minutos-fnaf-gif-5350334420791506205

[atomic bronze]

ngl that multiple landing positions feature would pair up really nicely with the multiple interiors mechanic

Like imagine 2 (or more) facilities with a giant ravine separating the respective zones

[heady girder]

Love that idea

Updates

Recede V0.0.4

• Reduced Nutcracker overall spawning odds
• Nutcrackers can no longer see players in other timelines
• Enemies can no longer see players in other timelines
• Players appaer as echo ghosts no matter if they are in the past or future for consistency reasons
• Tweaked power levels
• Tweaked spawning "curves"
• More overall enemies spawn
• Fixed clock showing up after time traveling inside
• The giant kiwi (Giant Sapsucker) can no longer spawn

[warm escarp]

manipulated time just to try to kill you...

[glossy ravine]

@heady girder

[heady girder]

This is just a general debug log that happens with some custom enemies when recede is checking if they should be resistant to time travel. This should not cause any bugs.

[glossy ravine]

got ya

[heady girder]

speel

[glossy ravine]

LOL

[lunar ember]

working on 5th moon are fruitful I see...

oh excuse me

on a planet

[lunar ember]

and yeah, I have similiar yellow-colored log on my solopack as well
don't feel like it significantly impacts the game

[heady girder]

better spelling

[heady girder]

I'm updating outfall's surface, what do you guys think about this?

[tropic oak]

looks nice

[warm escarp]

omfg that looks fantastic!

[lunar ember]

Looks better yeah

[flint thunder]

Wait wha?

[lunar ember]

On 5th "moon", the ship's gotta stay past midnight and extract a quota day from you
Basically a day cycle on this one, and more

[heady girder]

Yep

[lunar ember]

Meow?

[analog flower]

Meow meow!

[steep sky]

Beautiful, certainly improved.

[heady girder]

Since it would kind of suck to spend a full half hour on the planet and have it all be for nothing due to LC shenanigans. The planet has a Lost and Found, which saves (some of) your items on the ship. So if everyone dies, you can still go back and get the scrap from the last cycle.

[granite shadow]

looks alot better! I'd try to have the tres be more sunken into the ground, notice how some of em are floating just above it

[lunar ember]

Moon name leaked 🗣️

[heady girder]

you can actually see the "moon" name at 0:04 of this clip

[lunar ember]

oh

[random crater]

peam

[steep sky]

I'm not sure how one would do that since it's a randomized surface.

[heady girder]

Did it in one line of code

[steep sky]

Oh

[granite shadow]

great work!

[heady girder]

Less floating but there is still some semi-floating on slopes

[granite shadow]

code can do all I suppose

[granite shadow]

meh that's normal, I wouldn't worry about it too much

[steep sky]

I thought it would be more complicated

[granite shadow]

honestly same, I forgot it was the random generation one

[steep sky]

Especially because the elevation changes a lot

[heady girder]

abnormal

[atomic bronze]

Don't you just hate Flash Floods

[lunar ember]

did the weather just changed?

[heady girder]

yep, the weather has a changes every cycle while on the planet.

[lunar ember]

fair

[chilly flax]

can it fix my marriage?

[heady girder]

Might wanna transpile in some marriage counselling

[chilly flax]

ah ok

[lost dawn]

transpile the beanie

into the shower

with soap

[chilly flax]

whats with you guys telling me to shower and not believing i do!?!

what? Do you want VIDEO EVIDENCE?? Are you trying to get THAT out of me… you freaks…

how vile…

[glossy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-pentinence-famine-war-gif-23084505

[chilly flax]

youuu.... disgusting fleecher...

[unreal void]

just tried Recede

abso fucking lute peak creation

[lunar ember]

I agree
We all loved it and turned out better than I expected lol

[heady girder]

I honestly didn't think it would be liked so much, since I had to cut the more complex time travel mechanics and release it as an alpha.

[tropic oak]

its not wesley so its bad 💔 💔

[lunar ember]

How dare he not be wesley

[lost dawn]

i ate the moon

[unreal void]

I went in completely blind, had no idea what it was all about, died immediately to lightning and didnt even register half of what was happening afterwards to the other until we went back and I actually could play, insane stuff!

[warm escarp]

i had all my friends play it last week and everyone adored it, their only complaint was getting lost but that comes with being a snowy moon X3

[steep sky]

Ohhhh, maybe a warning should be shown if the next cycle will have different weather.

That would be good qol.

that way you're not just hit with a flood out of nowhere or halfway to the ship fog rolls in and you can't see anything.

Or at least you will know it's going to happen before it takes place.

[lunar ember]

forgot to mention yesterday, ppl from different timelines we're able to communicate via chat and TTS
I heard it was unintended back then so I thought it's worth mention it

[heady girder]

yeah will fix that

[lunar ember]

I thought it was meant to be fixed earlier so I didn't used word "still"

[glossy ravine]

https://www.twitch.tv/lunxara/clip/GoldenSourTrianglePipeHype--u3Zm4DFkqOZnDJv Maybe keep it as a config option so we can have the bug as a feature for more funny moments like this lmao

[lunar ember]

[lunar ember]

and yeah fair

[heady girder]

XD

[heady girder]

Using fog to hide regions being culled

[unreal void]

Careful with that, fog is pretty performance heavy for some people

[chilly flax]

i think its mostly related to lights interacting with fog

so, just dont go overboard w lights

[granite shadow]

cool beans

[lunar ember]

@heady girder @sacred lagoon

-# apparently elevator interiors and recede is not a good idea

[heady girder]

0:

what interior is this?

[tropic oak]

playzone?

[lunar ember]

I'm guessing the LC_Office would not work out as well

which it also has elevator
even worse that could kill you if you get teleported into the past in the elevator hole

[heady girder]

LC Office works, I tested it

Although the past thing is a possibility

[lunar ember]

I see

[heady girder]

Wait, how did you even get it to load nonthenless get it selected

When I test it the game softlocks on the RandomSeed screen

[tropic oak]

kiszony sent that, not me

[lunar ember]

ask lunxara

[heady girder]

Their streaming rn

[lunar ember]

playzone is blacklisted
playzone's generated lol

[lunar ember]

ye

we're not on recede anymore tho

[heady girder]

Please don't tell me that was on stream

[lunar ember]

hm?

it was just me there
out of sight of the stream
I got unlucky 😔

[heady girder]

okay

[glossy ravine]

Playzone did spawn even though you said it should be blacklisted

XD

[heady girder]

Do you have a mod that changes the way interiors are selected?

Because thats the only way I can think of playzone getting selected

[glossy ravine]

I'm using LunarConfig so that might bypass however you were attempting to blacklist it

[heady girder]

Could you provide a modpack code? I'm more curious on how the game didn't softlock when it got selected

[glossy ravine]

01991fde-75d4-852c-58fb-2973460a41ae

And a log so you can grab the seed

[sacred lagoon]

Whar

[lunar ember]

I'm out of bounds

of your interior

it was gullible all over

[heady girder]

Slight misinterpret
Thought we were talking about Outfall
Whoops

[heady girder]

Where you in the elevator in the past or smth?

[lunar ember]

we're I?
yeah

[lunar ember]

did you meant that blacklist for outfall while the topic was all over the recede?

wow

[heady girder]

sorry abt that my mind is all over the place

[lunar ember]

we we're talking about recede all the time 😭🥀

[heady girder]

not sure if I can fix that

[lunar ember]

it's kay
putting both majora moon and elevator interior will come with risk

funny risk

[heady girder]

funny and 100% harmless risks :D

[lunar ember]

Level up! Spend your skill points.
-# (Pause menu -> Skills)

[heady girder]

I should slow down a bit start following the TODO list in an order

[lunar ember]

8 regions? you're insane

[unreal void]

spin da wheel

[zenith apex]

me when i enter the fog that transports me to the piss dimension

[chilly flax]

sir. why is your pee green.

[zenith apex]

i eat my veggies

[chilly flax]

@spice egret did u infect this guy?

greenits infection

[spice egret]

I may have

I thought the gas mask would work, darn

[steep sky]

Not bad though to make it less sudden the transition to the foggy boundary should maybe fade in more gradually. Like fog to hide the fog. That way it looks less like this wall.

[heady girder]

Updates

Recede V0.0.7

• Fixed Reverb triggers
• Added Trees
• The spectate UI now shows if a player that is being spectated is in the past or future
• Fixed tesla coil electrocution SFX
• The lights from the tesla coil's lighting now affect the time machine's model
• Changed main's light fixture
• Players that die are automatically reverted to the present.
• Fixed that one AI node that was out of bounds for some reason

[steep sky]

......wait there was a node out of bounds?

[steep sky]

[12 hours later]

That is bizarre

[steep sky]

Update progress: still waiting for updates.

[steep sky]

Ask and we shall receive

I like the checker board pattern

Be good for a diner like interior.

What causes the explosion?

[heady girder]

kill bind

[heady girder]

Forgot to mention at the time but the Recede's info literally mentions it cannot be turned of because of the tesla coils. XD

[chilly flax]

the humble tricking an old bird to fire rockets at it: (they probably dont spawn on the moon at all but its neat to think about)

with that being said every single moon is impervious to being blasted by their rockets

so they wouldnt even break it

[heady girder]

They don't, mainly because of the spawning at the start of the day thing.

Neither maskeds

I made it so Maskeds cannot spawn on any of my moons

because they fustrate me
Like every time I try to play with a friend's modpack, some goofy mod (huntdown I think) spawns 101 maskeds
It does it like every time we play, even in early game
It's not even fun any more it just ruins my mood to keep playing

[heady girder]

Yeah like the buildings on every moon, rockets won't even put a dent in the time machine.

[granite shadow]

what the fuck LMAO

might be the left4dead huntdown mission

[granite shadow]

o wow

it looks good!

QUEEEE

[steep sky]

This image strongly reminds me of the movie "the night house" especially its promo art.

[heady girder]

Updates

Recede V0.0.8

• Fixed players teleporting out of bounds or dying when time traveling while on elevators
• Fixed more out of bounds AI nodes

[brave cove]

@heady girder Now that you were able to make it so enemies are timeline based on Recede, could you do something similar on parallax with the players and enemies?

[heady girder]

Am planning on doing that

[heady girder]

Is the Pink too saturated?

[chilly flax]

looks weird...

grass with pink spots of flowers would make sense

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scratch-gif-26163158

methinks

[heady girder]

Good idea

[chilly flax]

let me try and dig for the adamance flower textures

would you want any of these?

id find a grass texture, make 2 versions of it, one green one pink, and then in the areas where the grass is pinkish put these flowers

like they are spreading around

https://tenor.com/view/mold-spore-attack-mold-spore-attack-car-gif-13865220698347045437

[heady girder]

Yeah

[chilly flax]

mold spore spread

looks like its this

pink roses come with it too

these are all found on adamance

u just need to split the mesh

[lost dawn]

so what's this moon planet gonna be named again?

[heady girder]

Euphony

Each region on the planet will have it's own name aswell

[lost dawn]

pog

[lunar ember]

so there's gonna be 9 regions planned or less?

[heady girder]

Yeah, just like how conflux has 9 dungeons

[lunar ember]

oh dear

[lost dawn]

so im guessing "Truncks" is a heavily wooded area?

[heady girder]

Yep

[lost dawn]

nice

[chilly flax]

dence...

isnt it spelled dense?

[lost dawn]

^

[chilly flax]

this is so cool tho

ogugughh its awesome

please cook on the enviorments!!!!

[lost dawn]

and isnt it spelled "Trunks"? unless we doin a bit of naming liberties

[heady girder]

whoops

Don't know where that C came from

[lost dawn]

after B

[chilly flax]

lol

truncks, very dence

honestly its kinda charming

[lost dawn]

much dence, such truncks

wow

and ye, i don mind

[heady girder]

I will try my best!

[lost dawn]

im mostly curious what other nonvanilla environments are slated

[heady girder]

Updated TODO list

[lunar ember]

oh I see it already incompatible with LQ

[heady girder]

How was conflux incompatible with Lethal Quantities again?

[glossy ravine]

You should be migrating to LunarConfig anyways

[glossy ravine]

I agree with the Visuals on Recede, the Snow looks very strange atm and doesn't have the vanilla visuals applied

[lunar ember]

interior set ups we're ignored or broken
if I set up 1 or 3 interiors, the game got softlocked
I should have tried setting up 9 different interiors

[lost dawn]

Euphony's icon is gonna be interesting to make. will definitely be using the larger template

[zenith apex]

reading this

so we will be able to make our own "outfall" type of moons?

[heady girder]

Just with the randomly generating surface, I'm not sure if I will be able to easily port over the dungeon flow editing code to the lib

[zenith apex]

i think someone could do something like this if thats the case

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Robi_H/Zeranos_Mansion/

[brave cove]

or central config

I prefer central over lunar, tried lunar and did not like the design and system.

[lost dawn]

oh god... imagine a Vanish-like interior

[zenith apex]

whar

[lost dawn]

an interior that's continually shuffling the layout of uninhabited tiles, all while simulating a natural flow

tiles would all have to be 1x1 or 2x2, with dead end tiles not generating too close to each other

[glossy cave]

you tried Lunar???

[brave cove]

yeah

[glossy cave]

[brave cove]

lunar config

[glossy cave]

uhum yeah

@tacit crest config

https://tenor.com/view/zhouzhou-orange-cat-cat-with-orange-sleepy-cat-gif-14937184825975080647

[tacit crest]

yes

[heady girder]

What do you guys think about Frigid's map?

[chilly flax]

looks pretty good!

dont forget the snowy bushes and grass patches

[lunar ember]

Did you finished the mechanics that the regions are being made?

And I'm feeling good about the region

[heady girder]

The mechanics are almost done aside from a few rough edges

[lunar ember]

[glossy ravine]

@heady girder Wanted to report an issue to you with either NotezyLib or Recede. When the 2 mods are present the Tesla Gates in Piggy's variety mod don't light up properly, I had @rose canopy test to help me confirm this. Basically only 1 of them will light up but then the rest of them will all be dark

[glossy ravine]

https://www.twitch.tv/lunxara/clip/WealthyManlyTriangleThisIsSparta-IUe6XnmEqrMLIhs9 Idk why it happens, but yeah this clip shows a good example of the one being lit and one being right next to it being blacked out

[heady girder]

Neither mods should effect the tesla gate lights at all but I'll look into it

[glossy ravine]

I never saw errors so I do wonder if it just be run order shenanigans but I guess you'll find out

https://github.com/Piggy3590/PiggysVarietyMod/blob/main/Patches/TeslaGate.cs#L57 The code relating to the lights seems to start here though

[heady girder]

I'm debating weather or not to add spacing between each region. Players that want to walk to another region would need to walk a much longer distance if they are spaced. And enemies probably won't be able to move between regions since I'm not sure if the game will crap itself if I make a NavMesh that spans each region since the regions would be thousands of units apart from each other. But I think would make the transition in theming from each region a bit less jarring.

[trim lagoon]

you can keep the regions as if they were a decently sized moon each, with the usual tricks to refrain the player to go too far without the ship

[chilly flax]

idea: do the option of them being adjacent, but lightly terrain paint the borders of each region to be like the adjacent one

set brush strength to be very light

(if you dont have the terrain tools addon yet, i highly reccomend it)

helps alot

[heady girder]

I could do that but I'd like it for players to be able to walk or drive between regions without having to entirely rely on the ship.

[trim lagoon]

yeah, then try making "natural view blockers" like mountains, buildings yknow

so people don't see the other terrains popping into existence

[heady girder]

(did not know terrain tools was a thing thanks for recommending it)

[heady girder]

Yep, planning on doing that. Kind of already did that by adding a giant fog wall to each region but that might have caused some low FPS when testing, not entirely sure yet though.

[trim lagoon]

yeah giant fog walls are not the best thing (they're poorly optimized)

try a more crafty solution

[random crater]

Will planet regions be in notezy lib?

[heady girder]

Yep

[random crater]

Epic

[steep sky]

Maybe round it out with a darkened texture? That way it's not just flat and some of the saturation is absorbed by the pattern.

Otherwise I think it's great just a bit bright but I also don't want it to just get slightly darker flat because I think the brightness is kind of fun.

[atomic bronze]

Ah so the idea for the multiple landing zones is each one will effectively be their own mini-version of a moon?

[atomic bronze]

Late but in all fairness LQ's features regarding interiors has always been on the spotty side and required specific wrangling to not have it desync the pack (or worse). It's why in the past for my pack I just used LLL to handle interiors cause it's much more reliable at what it does.

Curious on how it handles when you tweak interior spawns for Conflux, probably fine
The more problematic one I can see potentially arising for enemies is with Euphony

[heady girder]

Yes

[atomic bronze]

That was the impression I got when you were describing how it worked
Question is since it all exists within just one absurdly big map, could you theoretically put the landing spots close to one another and just have the same weather conditions for a landing zone if it's close enough to an already existing one

I think the different weathers for different sectors is a pretty neat idea, the same conditions one is more of an edge case if you give complete freedom to even plop a zone incredibly close to an already existing one

[heady girder]

Yeah, if someone wanted to they could make all or some regions share the same weather as the main region.

[steep sky]

Third

[heady girder]

more like one thousand five hundred seventy-first

[steep sky]

No literally the third person, second was cheesenits and fourth was safeofarsenal

[heady girder]

oh

[steep sky]

😀

[heady girder]

99 💀

[heady girder]

no words

[steep sky]

And I thought half life had it bad

Oof

[lost dawn]

man. didnt even give you time to killbind.

[heady girder]

Took me several days to figure out you can't just patch multiple methods to a single transpiler like this, and harmony will only patch the last attribute

[steep sky]

Yeeeeeouch

[heady girder]

But at least now that I know this I can start working on per-region spawning.

Also found this programming goof in the game's code

There shouldn't be a scenario where insideAINodes is null, but still

[steep sky]

What does it do?

[sacred lagoon]

outsideAINodes = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("AINode"); is supposed to be insideAINodes

If that were to run it'd make it so inside AI nodes are considered to be the "outside" ones

And the actual outside ones would be unused

[heady girder]

^ yeah ^ and It would run the calculation with a null array afterwards

[heady girder]

I noticed that with LethalSponge, you can't see the planets in the ship's camera

[unreal void]

Oh yeah I was sure something was missing lmao

Didnt really think much just felt weird when I looked at it

[heady girder]

Euphony is very performant :D

[trim lagoon]

it's because of the culling distance

it's reduced on the cameras with LethalSponge

[brave cove]

It’s a config option for render distance of the camera or something

[heady girder]

Oh, yep

[steep sky]

Hewo

[zenith apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618069985658404871/1401114674459709601/togif.gif

[heady girder]

It seems like the performance issues that happen when all 9 regions are loaded occur mainly due to enemies and not the rendering.

[steep sky]

That's actually a little weird

[heady girder]

Not only due to the spawn lag, but also because Euphony has about 3647 AI nodes when all of the regions are loaded

so when outdoor enemies are doing wandering caluations, they do it for all or most 3647 ai nodes

[chilly flax]

jesus

it should be like… 50 nodes per region…

normally people aim for 50 per moon

[heady girder]

Did not know that

I use my own tool to automatically place AI nodes, which ends up with over 400 AI nodes for all of my moons

[steep sky]

......maybe there's a way reduce the rate of calculation when they're far away? Something equivalent to animations having way less frames and resolution when they are far away from the player.

[trim lagoon]

yeah... moons depending on size are from 40-70 per moon, even less if the play area is small

and AI nodes tank performance a lot

[steep sky]

That way only the active region is actually doing normal ai calculation while non active regions take a backseat

[heady girder]

Yeah I am planning on doing that but did not know AI nodes caused heavy performance issues

Thanks for informing me

[unreal void]

Cant wait for the update and also that tool sounds cool!

[chilly flax]

thats… oh no

neat tool idea though!

[steep sky]

I knew the AI is pretty un-optimized and lags very often sometimes getting caught in trigger loops but I didn't know that moons could have that many nodes. Seems kinda excessive having 50 let alone OVER 50.

[chilly flax]

you might wanna go back and manually place the nodes, its shockingly quick to do it if you just control shift place them

[unreal void]

Maybe you’d want to mess with this too :p

[chilly flax]

also it lets you control the density and spawn regions of enemies

[chilly flax]

this is very useful

more nodes in an area generally means more enemies will spawn around there and stay around there

[unreal void]

Also another thing tho I dont think you have too many lightsources on the moon? Its still worth checking it out

[heady girder]

yeah I don't know why that didn't come to mind that the over 400 AI nodes could be causing lag and not the mechanics on my moons

[chilly flax]

lights can also be a major issue, id highly recommend opening the hidden settings to reduce max shadow distance

otherwise it leads to frame drops and flickering

[heady girder]

alright, I've had lighting issues with my own Unity games so I know how significant lighting is to performance

[steep sky]

Yeah light sources even though are not super draining can stack. Sometimes it's more efficient to cheat with raster graphics and make something look lit by drawing the light or removing shadows on that thing then to put up a whole light source. Half life kinda did that in many ways.

[atomic bronze]

Oh yeah an acquaintance of mine got a rude awakening about lighting being heavy to performance, they were working on a unity project

[steep sky]

Oof

[lunar ember]

not exploding at the end of the vid is weird

[glossy cave]

I mean

Giant exploded

[steep sky]

Giant took the explosion, I think it's hit box acts like a big ass wall.

[heady girder]

The Enemy AI lag is mostly fixed, especially with the AI node cropping.

Just need to balance out the way spawning works so the game won't spawn a million old birds every spawn cycle

[steep sky]

Maybe have cap limits that change hour by hour? Also definitely look into fine tuning the curve, everything comes back to the curve eventually.

[steep sky]

I just realized that someone using the lib and this design could recreate planet zebes from Metroid on nes including all of the regions.

[graceful ridge]

would it be possible to add a config to have scrap be able to spawn inside on outfall? not all of it, just the possibility

[heady girder]

Yeah I think I can do that, but not sure if I will be able to totaly control the outside/inside scrap spawn ratio

[lost dawn]

by chance, is it possible to make it so:
A. only certain interiors spawn in assigned regions
B. that if you pull an apparatus in one region, only that region is affected
?

[heady girder]

Yes
Yes

[lost dawn]

nice
nice

should that be implemented, i know exactly how im gonna set up this moon in my pack

[steep sky]

If only there was a mod that allowed you to put the apparatus back or to bring one and use it to power an unpowered facility.

[glossy cave]

I mean, wesley's finale uses it hehehehe

[glossy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-8890329830311161961

[sacred lagoon]

Only works with the vanilla Appy

[glossy cave]

not even bozo??

[sacred lagoon]

Well

[sacred lagoon]

I gotta make it so it actually switches it

[glossy cave]

would be amazing

imagine a eater egg where it would start reproducing some silly music and and and the entire cart would be rainbow and the explosion rainbow and and

[sacred lagoon]

(This specific patch is not in the Bozo Wesley compat, I did not get around to making it actually replace it)

[glossy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-high-abstract-gif-19077356

[sacred lagoon]

We do a little

Transform? apparatusSlot = rootObjects[i].transform.Find("Map/Rails/Cart/Cube (1)");

if (apparatusSlot != null && apparatusSlot.TryGetComponent(out ItemConsumer apparatusConsumer)
    && apparatusSlot.TryGetComponent(out PlayerFilter playerFilter))
{
    apparatusConsumer.validItems = [.. apparatusConsumer.validItems, .. AllApparatuses];
    apparatusConsumer.checkExact = true;

    playerFilter.heldItemFilter.shouldCheck = false;
}

[heady girder]

Euphony runs surprisingly well, and even a little better on Lunxara's mod pack. Aside from a few bugs caused by other mods mods

[brave cove]

What is euphony

[heady girder]

The last moon I'm working on ^

[lunar ember]

At what % is the moon done? (approximately)

[glossy ravine]

Lmao what mods are causing bugs? I am in the process of pulling some stuff

Also that ending was great

[lunar ember]

he always do that
also you can see him ragdolled in between the scene change at 0:09

[heady girder]

40%

[lunar ember]

I see

9 regions to organize solo, sounds already crazy

[heady girder]

I have been fixing them on my end, Like
Loadstone caused the game to softlock when loading an extra region.
ButteryFixes somehow prevented the mod from unloading the extra regions.

But the only one I don't know is some mod is causing the clock to loop at 6 instead of 12, Which I'm pretty sure is just a visual bug with the HUD.

[lunar ember]

from 5 PM to 6 AM?

[heady girder]

It was general improvements

[lunar ember]

why I'm not suprised

if I only could I would never install this mod, but I love the extra monitors feature that keeps me on the mod 😔

[glossy ravine]

Ugh I love you GI but you have so much feature creep lol

[lunar ember]

fr

all I need is extra monitors

[heady girder]

I don't really blame GL for this since any mod can prefix the clock like this. I also am second guessing myself since this pre patch only happens if the 24-hour clock config is true which isn't the case.

[steep sky]

I Will now bite the hud

[glossy ravine]

[steep sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-blink-big-eyes-short-gif-gif-27595067

[rose canopy]

[flint thunder]

Been learning lua and that kinda looks like lua XD i know its probably not tho

[heady girder]

Yeah I was wrong, I think it's LethalHUD because when I disable that mod the clock works normally.

[heady girder]

also that's C# lol

[flint thunder]

XD

Coding is fun but it eats time

[heady girder]

Not very sure about as well since the bug doesn't happen on my mod test profile with LethalHUD.

[heady girder]

Okay, I think I understand it now.
It's both LethalHUD and General Improvments

BepInEx MonoMod Debug Patcher is a life saver

[glossy ravine]

Oh fun lol, are they both patching the same thing?

[heady girder]

Yes

[glossy ravine]

@unreal void @hearty light Idk which one of you will need to fix this

[heady girder]

Let me explain rq

LethalHUD Postfixes the Set Clock function
So when LethalHUD is installed by itself, My Prefix skips LethalHUD's postfix which is why the bug doesn't happen

But General Improvments Prefixes it.
And Harmony patches the function in a way that makes it so my Prefix now skips General Improvent's Prefix and not LethalHud's Postfix

[unreal void]

Lel

[heady girder]

Even if I set the priory of my prefix to first or high harmony still patches it like this causing the bug.

[unreal void]

Im switching back to harmony btw as soon as I figure out some rpc work for my chat stuff so I’ll get back to this issue later

[glossy ravine]

HOORAH FUCK MONO DETOUR

It makes the game run slower

lmao

[rose canopy]

??????

[glossy ravine]

Idek why it does but it does

[rose canopy]

do you have any basis for this

like any proof

[glossy ravine]

I've seen Purple talk about it

so

I would trust his claims

[rose canopy]

[glossy ravine]

Xu's also mentioned it before a couple times

[granite shadow]

purp's been wrong before

[glossy ravine]

Dunno about XuXu though

[granite shadow]

also iirc this is because xu doesn't like that hamunii's "farming downloads" off it (even tho it translates to nothing)

[glossy ravine]

Ahhhhh

[tropic oak]

wtf

[granite shadow]

but it may also have an effect on performance? never heard of it tho

[rose canopy]

i have my own reservations abt monodetour but ive not heard of any slowdowns caused by it

[tropic oak]

youre telling me someone would spread lies on the internet...?

[unreal void]

I dont think it does, I’d need proof of that like multiple tests

[glossy ravine]

It sounds like the stuff has been debunked and it was opinionated yeah

[glossy ravine]

I mostly don't like it cus I find it to be useless tbh

It does nothing for end users and it's not been useful like Hamunii said it would be

[rose canopy]

im not a fan of it being forced dependency of lethallib is the main thing

[glossy ravine]

That too

It was a shit move no matter how you slice it

[rose canopy]

and i havent really seen it improve anything since ive installed it

[glossy ravine]

Yeah

[rose canopy]

but i also havent seen it drop performance

[tropic oak]

is there even a mod that uses it

like, actually

[glossy ravine]

LethalHud does rn

only mod that does

lol

[rose canopy]

if anything it would just increase loading time by like 10 ms or something

[tropic oak]

important reason to uninstall trust

i cant wait 2 seconds more

[glossy ravine]

and I use LethalHud cus I love s1ckboy even if I dislike MonoDetour

XD

[rose canopy]

so true

[heady girder]

Yeah, I made LethalMin Only depend on LethalLib because I don't like having people download a bunch of deps just to play one mod.
-# that was kind of thrown out the window when LethalLib updated with the detour deps

[rose canopy]

i'll shave 2 sec off my 90 sec loading time

[granite shadow]

it's supposed to catch issues

it's not like, an API or LIB smth where a mod can use it if thats what you mean

[granite shadow]

oh rllY?

[tropic oak]

me when lunx just said lethalhud uses it

smh

[granite shadow]

to what effect/what reason?

[glossy ravine]

True but usually the errors are something only Hamunii understands lol

[granite shadow]

im montying sorry

:3

[tropic oak]

im montying with MQLCTP

[glossy ravine]

He just used it cus he found it easier than monomod/harmony at the time

essentially

[granite shadow]

im glad you like the cruiser tunes pack

[glossy ravine]

Good luck getting Purple to use Biodiversity though

But tbh it's valid if people don't vibe with it imo

I still have never seen the coil crabs work

I never see them spawn

Ever

[tropic oak]

i dont use it because i already have the harbinger and cabinet, and one part of my mod pack is preferably using lesser known content mods

[unreal void]

There were two main reasons I was / am using it. 1) has a nice little tool for transpilers but 2) my main reason was to learn something new and as a 3) side reason so to speak is because I respect and have a lot to thank to Hamunii so I wanted to show it in a way
I dont use transpiler anymore so as of right now MonoDetour is not really necessary and in some ways restrictive (although in a lot of other ways much cleaner and fits better with my style)

[granite shadow]

ye ik!

[rose canopy]

ogopogo catching my one friend off guard is the primary reason i still use it

[granite shadow]

i don't mind it

no one's obligated to use my shit

[tropic oak]

the harbinger and cabinet already add enough to the game

[granite shadow]

go to a vanilla moon for once dudeeee

[rose canopy]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/joVTFPdivbSvtON1O?invite=cr-MSxkUVgsMjA5ODQzMzg2&v=35 this from january its still so good

[glossy ravine]

I think Hamunii is a good person and I have no dislike towards her at all tbh

[granite shadow]

it's there every day on titan and rend

!!!!

[glossy ravine]

But I do think forcing Mono Detour as a dep of LethalLib was a bad move

[granite shadow]

if it don't work then idk

try resetting the config or smth

[glossy ravine]

I don't play on Vanilla moons

prolly why I haven't seen the coil crabs

[granite shadow]

yeah lmao

[glossy ravine]

I tried to make them spawn on custom moons but they just refuse to

Idk why even the Custom: tag doesn't work

[glossy ravine]

Also all of these things are valid as well :3

[heady girder]

I also tried to do a postfix, but because LethalHUD uses hooks, using HarmonyPriority does nothing and LethalHUD's postfix still runs last.

[unreal void]

I can add a harmonypriority if that solves everything in my next patch

Like I said in my next patch Im swapping back to harmony

But having troubles with some rpc work and frankly I have no idea what is my issue anymore lmao

[heady girder]

All you'd need to do is just make your SetClock hook into a normal harmony Postfix. Then since my postfix has it's priority set to last harmony should patch it so that it would run after your postfix and the clock would be set correctly.

[unreal void]

Understood 🫡

[steep sky]

....I kinda understand....brain hurty

[heady girder]

What kind of troubles?

[unreal void]

I’ll send you some dm’s about it if thats cool with you, but I can only show my code tomorrow as Im already in bed

[heady girder]

Alr

[lunar ember]

Isn't it required for code rebirth and couple of other mods from your pack?

[tropic oak]

coderebirth, no

unless i just dont have what it needs from it enabled

[glossy ravine]

Just Lethal Hud

Nothing else

[lunar ember]

Oh

Heck you s1ckboy

[unreal void]

[steep sky]

How goes the grind?

[heady girder]

Another one, StarlancerAIFix causes indoor enemies in that spawn in other regions to think they are outside.

[glossy ravine]

That's prolly more an issue on your part lol

[heady girder]

This is because AIFix determines if an enemy is outside or inside by getting the closest AI node to it when it first spawns.
But because AI Fix doesn't update it's node cache from when the level first loads, it only uses the nodes in the primary region and not the other regions.

[glossy ravine]

Hmmmm

@torpid crypt

[heady girder]

I was able to fix it by adding a simple method that just refreshes the cache when a new region loads.
If this keeps being an issue with other mods I might just pool AI nodes and place them when regions are loaded.

[chilly flax]

how would you know did you look through their code

[torpid crypt]

If I'm understanding what you're doing correctly, it's a fascinating idea, but definitely one outside of the vanilla system expectations that AIFix is relying on.

[heady girder]

Exactly

[torpid crypt]

Glad you were able to work around it ^^

[glossy ravine]

I just figured it might be since Starlancer’s code is really good, if I was wrong they would have worked it out though

[steep sky]

Bug fix after bug fix. A coder's work is never done...

[heady girder]

Copilot attempts to guess the moon names based off the first 4 letters of their names

[glossy cave]

bro sometimes copilot doesnt even let me write something, it makes the entire code by itself 😭

[rose canopy]

Goofy ahh copilot

[glossy cave]

yeah

im killing it

wawawawawawawawawa

[rose canopy]

wawawawawawa

[lunar ember]

meow

[analog flower]

Meow meow!

[tropic oak]

buh

[glossy cave]

abibabou

[slate perch]

yes

[chilly flax]

”my good sir, you appear to be too close, please stand back”

-the spatially aware employee

[loud birch]

please make it work with the green apparatus of the GrandArmory

[sacred lagoon]

Ye that patch works for all Appies

I'd just like to have it physically place the Appy so it doesn't switch to the vanilla one

Haven't messed with that in a bit

[steep sky]

Copilot evil

Copilot wants to spy on my stuff and the things in my head

I will bite it

[heady girder]

Will have to halt devlopment on the lib and euphony until LLL is back up

I also won't be able to fix my moons nor the lib even after LLL is back because I'm working on the 0.2.0 update

[steep sky]

What? The hell happened? I've been seeing reports everywhere.

[heady girder]

Basically Zeekees Updated the Netcode version of Lethal Company, which broke nearly every mod that uses networking.

He also updated the unity version of Lethal Company which may or may not also have broken alot of mods, I'm not too sure though.

[steep sky]

God dammit zeekers. Why?

[heady girder]

Because of a security issue with the older unity version LC was using, Zeekees had to update it

[chilly flax]

theres a working LLL patch pacoito made, but he needs permission to upload it / batby needs to respond

really wish batby did respond...

[steep sky]

Well at least there's an actually good reason this time.

[steep sky]

Yeah especially since we're kinda at a code fucking yellow for everything.

[chilly flax]

i mean we could ping him in a proper thread and ask

[steep sky]

Yes

[chilly flax]

i tested pacoitos patch, it works perfectly

it fixed both my interiors AND moons for v73 with no issues

i didnt even need to rebuild

[steep sky]

Well pass it out to anyone who needs until they get the go ahead for the actual release

[glossy ravine]

Nah he can upload it due to the license, he would just prefer for Batby to push it

[steep sky]

Ik

I kinda prefer that too

[glossy ravine]

I assume if Batby doesn't reply after a few days he'll push it since devs really need LLL

[chilly flax]

that is a good idea, but yeah i hope batby responds soon

[glossy ravine]

@sacred lagoon I'd assume this is the plan right?

[sacred lagoon]

Everything delayed by Lebron

https://tenor.com/view/update-delayed-lebron-block-update-block-lebron-lebron-james-block-update-releasing-3-2-1-gif-1010810542145176969

[chilly flax]

SOMEONE STOP LEBRON!!!

[steep sky]

Boy what a shit storm. It'd be nice if he would give us a heads up before updating the very core code and all.

[chilly flax]

its zeekers

he never interacts with us

[heady girder]

totally reasonable, but it kind of sucks that he barely acknowledges the modding community.

Notezy's Moons (BROKEN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE)

[steep sky]

Especially if it causes consequences like this.

[sacred lagoon]

Good news is though moons don't really need repatching/rebundling

[glossy ravine]

You just need to recompile your DLL's and update to the new netcode patcher Notezy

[sacred lagoon]

Just uhhh

Ye

Only DLL needs recompiling, with the new Netcode version and stuff

#dev-general message

[heady girder]

Yeah, did that with a few of my mods. But I cannot do that with NotezyLib as I'm midway though an unfinished update.

I need to learn how to branch on github

[sacred lagoon]

git checkout -b v73

[heady girder]

Last time I tried I almost lost the source code to one of my mods (LethalMin)

[sacred lagoon]

Oh weird

Thonk

Should keep a full backup of the project if you're worried you might goof something

Git do be confusing

[sacred lagoon]

I could also DM you the LLL version for v73 if you need it to double check everything's working with your moons after da recompile

[heady girder]

Thanks, but I'd rather wait for the babty to give the go ahead

[zenith apex]

not his fault some asshat decided to use unity's vulnerability to hack people

https://tenor.com/view/luigi's-mansion-luigi-mansion-luigi-mario-nintendo-gif-1066159530261749330

[steep sky]

Ik

Damn hackers

Black hats really just can't leave anything alone can they?

[sacred lagoon]

I don't think it's actually been exploited yet, it's just that it can happen

[heady girder]

There is no evidence that the exploit was used

[sacred lagoon]

Ye

[zenith apex]

alright thats good atleast lol

[granite shadow]

you can stop lebron

ONLY YOU CAN STOP LEBRON PAQUITO

[lost dawn]

how much you wanna bet hackers wouldntve even noticed the exploit, and we couldve just lived on v72 in harmony?

[granite shadow]

that's

bugeyed

no that's just terrible LMAO

[sacred lagoon]

-# Surely there aren't any other critical exploits that haven't been made public yet or have yet to be discovered

[azure narwhal]

Afaik he could have patched without updating btw so

[zenith apex]

wait really??

damn.

[heady girder]

I think I did hear somthing about unity creating patchers for every spesfic unity version after 2017

[rose canopy]

i think repo devs just patched instead of changing version

zeek couldve done that for sure

if he wanted to include the NfGO update still it wouldve broke stuff anyway

[azure narwhal]

Though if you wanna direct any blame feel free to ask why Thunderstore still doesn’t have version associated uploads

[azure narwhal]

Ngo updated because the unity version changed it’s default ngo version target

[rose canopy]

makes more sense

[heady girder]

Either he didn't know this or he just updated it so he could be working on the most recent minor version of 2022 unity for LC.

I probably would have done the same

[rose canopy]

the whole thing seemed pretty hasty

cus apparently theres now some weird behavior in basegame cus of the ngo update

[azure narwhal]

He should have known it tbh

[rose canopy]

leads me to believe zeek was just trying to get something out fast cus of the deadline for wttdp

[unreal void]

Nope, repo is also moving unity version

[rose canopy]

are they choosing to do that or do they have to

[glossy ravine]

Unlike Lethal's Community a bunch of REPO mods are gonna die and not come back cus a lot of it's community in terms of modding already left and moved on

[unreal void]

From what I have read you gotta move.
https://unity.com/security/sept-2025-01
^ from what I see they slowly are getting thru each patch tho but I also move my unity 6 version to a different version

[unreal void]

I mean, maybe but then again they wont be affected as much as they are using photon, so networking issue is not gonna be present there like it was here

[glossy ravine]

Eh maybe, if anything REPO really made me grow a disdain for Photon with how unstable the servers were when the game was popular

I think I would still like it if they added a focus on replayability, the problem with the game is that after a while it stops having replayability

The late game isn't really great with how long the levels get and the moon phases didn't end up adding anything to help in any meaningful way

[sacred lagoon]

Btw you only need to open da projects in the newest Unity version and thy packages will update automatically, though keep a backup of everything regardless

[glossy ravine]

The game wasn't built with replayability in mind and I feel like cus of how the devs designed it they don't know how to improve the late game

I know they're gonna drop an update this month but I have no idea if I will play it I have no interest unfortunately

[unreal void]

My projects are fine now this is an old pic

[sacred lagoon]

o

Neat

[unreal void]

Iirc i move my side project to 6000.0.58f2

[tacit crest]

sorry for ghost ping sick boy

weird though, bc im on the same version and it doesnt have a warning

[unreal void]

your unity hub looks old

it might just be me lol

[tacit crest]

oh that would probably explain it

yeah im updating now, we'll see

yup it was the hub version

what version do I have to change to?

[unreal void]

2022.3.62f2

[heady girder]

I think I was able to do this by branching out on a commit before I started working on the major update. But I need to dubbed check and make sure every thing works

[heady girder]

I've also been thinking about changing Recede's time machine to time travel at entirely random hours in the day instead of just a couple of hours into the past/future.

[steep sky]

Yeeeeess

It would also be cool if the sky and parts of the area changed slightly as a side effect of the time jump.

It still has not left my head.

[lunar ember]

if that's doable, then that would be very cool

[heady girder]

So after testing it with pacotio's LLL Patch
Parallax is bugged
Conflux is bugged
Eather works fine
Outfall works fine
Recede is bugged

not sure how much is caused by V73 and how much is caused by me breaking my patcher project awhile ago before V73

[lunar ember]

recede's bugged ;-;

[glossy ravine]

Recede isn't even in my pack rn anyways

I love it but I pulled it when prioritizing halloween themed content

lol

[heady girder]

Will get fixes out for all of my moons and the lib asap

These are mostly visual bugs anyways (aside from conflux)

[lunar ember]

I know but for my solopack was a great asset

[lunar ember]

I see

[heady girder]

I was like "wow everything is working perfectly!" then went outside and saw the clock 💀

[brave cove]

Even if the moon seems fine, if it uses the netcode patcher and rpcs, I recommended recompiling with the new netcode patcher just to be safe. Because there can be small things that are unnoticed at first.

[heady girder]

Exactly what I'm doing rn, since almost all of my moons use networking

[granite shadow]

dang that's super rough

I'm sure you'll be able to figure something out soon :[

[lost dawn]

Eather?

[heady girder]

Another mod that uses NotezyLib
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/RealeStudios/Ether/

I missspleed it

[lost dawn]

ah

thought it was a moon i SOMEHOW missed

[steep sky]

Omg that's fucking cool! You basically upgraded it dude.

Or helped to, idk who did what.

That's amazing.

[glossy cave]

Notezy made the lib that lets you have multiple interiors

Reale added it to the moon

[steep sky]

Ik

[steep sky]

That's still cool

[glossy cave]

Of course

[steep sky]

I guess that still means that notzey still indirectly upgraded it by making the lib that allowed reale to improve it.

[glossy cave]

Im still waiting for a city-like moon with multiple interiors hehe would be awesome

[steep sky]

It would be cool especially if there was like a menu that allowed you to control that. Imagine having the lunar mall (once finished), beanie's liminal house, and piggy's LC_Office interior on a city moon.

[heady girder]

Updates

NotezyLib V0.1.4 (V73 Fix)

• Recompiled for V73

Parallax V0.1.5 (V73 Fix)

• Recompiled for V73

Conflux V0.1.7 (V73 Fix)

• Recompiled for V73

Outfall V0.2.0 (V73 Fix)

• Recompiled for V73
• Updated Terrain Textures
• Added Trees
• Added Rocks
• Increesed Map Size

Recede V0.1.0 (V73 Fix)

• Updated Terrain Texture
• Recompiled for V73

[chilly flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-claps-clapping-cute-gif-14440436985127897764