Lunar Config

[remote kernel]

ngl id not mind 2 jesters if that old mod that made them go back in their box worked

or I mean go back after running around for a while

even if you are inside

[primal linden]

pain

[narrow pivot]

I do though, and it's not just Jesters, this affects every enemy.

We've seen 2 Brackens and 2 Kidnapper Foxes before.

[meager whale]

that sounds so ass 💔

[narrow pivot]

In fact, it's possible for there to be even 3 Brackens.

[remote kernel]

I didnt even know brackers were capped at one

idk if some mod overrode it before but before lunar I saw that XD

[meager whale]

a lot of inside enemies are

lunar has caused me a ton of issues w enemies before, even after uninstalling it my vanilla moons still have their spawn curves ruined

[narrow pivot]

I uncap Barbers because they seem like an enemy there would be multiple of.

[meager whale]

got like 12pm dogs on assurance and insta thumper at 8am the same round

[remote kernel]

when was that?

[meager whale]

even when I try reinstalling the mod it just fails to land

[remote kernel]

also I dont think it should keep the modified spawns after uninstalling

[meager whale]

last year in v72, then I came back to update that pack and it's still happening

[remote kernel]

oh yeah it was still pretty unstable back then

wait what

how

ive never seen that

[meager whale]

I have nothing that modifies enemies really so idk

[remote kernel]

no like it should by literally impossible

[meager whale]

recently I reinstalled it to the pack and deleted the old configs to regen them and I just can't land anymore

[remote kernel]

oh wait, just checking

[meager whale]

so I just removed LCFG altogether for the pack

[remote kernel]

do you have missile turrets

and code rebirth

[meager whale]

this is a v73 pack

[remote kernel]

ah

[meager whale]

I can land after going on the lcfg central file and turning off every config BUT the item one which is the one I wanted to use

[remote kernel]

wait you downgraded it to the right version right

[meager whale]

but even then the item one doesn't generate, and trying to move in an item config from a previous version of the pack doesn't do anything cuz it just doesn't read it

[meager whale]

yeah bud

I have 55 mod updates pending lol

[remote kernel]

bruh I need to check stuff lol

if im to guess that may have been one the bugs that only god fixed in the v81 update XP

since some were bundled in with it

[meager whale]

I'm just giving up on LCFG for this pack since the only thing I really needed it for was LLL scraps, and I removed those a few updates back

I also wanted it in order to change Biodiversity item names

but I can live with them so I'll be fine without it

something's just majorly fucked w the profile so I haven't found a reason to report any of this :P

[remote kernel]

ah yeah if you were just using it for that not worth messing with the old version thats not being fixed XP

[meager whale]

ye lol

i'll start using it when I move to v81 but for the time being I'm good just thugging it out

[remote kernel]

Anyways if im correct at least the enemy cap thing may be on dawn's end? from what I saw xu saying

[meager whale]

might be ye

[remote kernel]

then a fix should be out relativly soon, shes always fast with them

[meager whale]

hopefully those things are fixed at some point cuz it sounds a little problematic for balancing lol

[meager whale]

thankfully yeah

[narrow pivot]

Yes.

I mean technically it's overall a vanilla bug actually.

But it never occurs in vanilla because there's never an instance where an enemy is in 2 different spawn lists.

[remote kernel]

ah yeah, well hope thats fixed soon but I can at least deal with it for now

(should say I when I said modded enemies drown that out, I dont spam them on every moon ive been setting per moon XP)

having every modded enemy installed on every moon would be pure chaos

[narrow pivot]

I mean I know it's kind of a meme at this point but I do kinda wish I could find some custom moons that stuck a bit to vanilla formula but there just doesn't seem to be any really.

[remote kernel]

(I mean reason I have 95% of code rebirth off rn and have been adding it in 1 by 1)

[remote kernel]

no offence man but your gage for that seems weirdly specific 😭

im not saying that many do

but also I cant really tell what youd count as a point agaisnt that

[narrow pivot]

I mean it is specific, I won't lie.

Like any moons that put indoor enemies outdoors, and vice versa, I generally don't like.

I kinda get why some people do that because there's very little in the way of variety of outdoor enemies.

[remote kernel]

Bracken outdoor has always been a fav of mine

was like the only reason ages ago I used to use lethalescape

[remote kernel]

I wont say try generic's since there is no chance you havent, as for others you could try that are updated

I could say these 4 at least deserve a look

if you havent

[narrow pivot]

I've been looking, there's just not that much that scratch that itch well. But I'll look into the bottom 2.

I've looked into Turbotaliz's moons, I like their moons design but they also do the thing of having outdoor enemies indoors.

Which can be changed easily of course but still.

I also don't like moons with silly non-toggleable easter eggs >>

Yeah I know, I'm fun at parties. But I don't like anything immersion breaking like that.

[remote kernel]

ill say these 2 def fit with the overhauled march and vow

given they dont reuse the assets since all forest moons in vanilla now use unique sets of plants

with little overlap

[remote kernel]

any examples?, I only remember generic moons gokus which were toggleable

[narrow pivot]

Well with Aerona, there's just a disco party happening in one of the warehouses lol

[remote kernel]

ah wait, that kinda easter egg, tbh I like ones like that cause it reminds me of zeeker's humor XP

I thought you meant like super pop culture ones or shitposty

which I dont like

[narrow pivot]

Well I mean the disco thingy does use copyrighted music from what it sounds like

Unless it isn't, I don't know for sure tbh.

[meager whale]

I feel like a lot do and very well, not saying you haven't looked hard enough tho ik you have a very specific way to look at this game

I do too so I totes get it

[meager whale]

I do agree w that, I don't think any that I use on my public pack do that

and even if they did LLL lets me just remove that so it's mostly fine

[woven idol]

Why I can't anymore configurate The Fiend and Shy Guy (Scopophobia) after they been deprecated (until deprecate all was fine) ?
Since mods still working 🤔

[carmine warren]

also, i think that being able to edit an enemies increasedChanceInterior should also be an option, basically it's the property that maneaters use to have boosted rates on mineshaft

[dreamy gazelle]

To edit the config file and options does exist a designed ui to use ?

[woven idol]

maybe this one

+gale mod manager

[dreamy gazelle]

thx i'll check!

[ornate harbor]

That's just a curve visualizer, but Gale is the recommended config viewer currently, there are a couple custom ones in the works tho!

Version 0.3.14

Features

• Added Catalogue Index option in moon entries for allowing a custom order of moons in the terminal.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Crafty/LunarConfig/

Credits to @rancid pebble for this one <3

Probably some of the better written code in the whole mod lol

[primal linden]

neat!

[woven idol]

@ornate harbor do you know something about it?
Tried to set spawn weights with Lunar Config after Scopophobia and The Fiend deprecated and it just doesn't work, but built-in configurations (in mod itself) still work 🤔

[ornate harbor]

Likely because their built in configuration is taking precedence over Lunar's

Nothing I can change about that

[woven idol]

I think something similar exists for interiors/interior types on different moons, so would like to see config of this thing too

[split trench]

@ornate harbor If there are missing entries for scrap spawns on moons does it use default or does it just set the ones that are not there to 0

[ornate harbor]

Set to 0

[meager whale]

awesome as freak

[narrow pivot]

I noticed recently that Lunar wasn't generating moon configurations for custom moons?

Should it?

[meager whale]

definitely

[narrow pivot]

Oh oh oh wait I think I know what happened.

Oh wait I don't have clear orphaned entries on

hmm

Nevermind for now

[grim raft]

Hey @ornate harbor so the "is in store" option is broken, but also the "is scrap" option as well

[ornate harbor]

'Sold In Shop' does work, in a profile with just Lunar and Dawn, I imagine it's some terminal mod not being compatible with Dawn's predicate system

Not something I can fix

[ornate harbor]

How do you mean Is Scrap? is broken

[grim raft]

Well i cant disable something from being scrap

When i set a scrap item to false, the item still spawns in

[ornate harbor]

Yeah because that's not what that option does

[grim raft]

Its not?

[ornate harbor]

Let me find out what it does do

[grim raft]

Alr thx

[ornate harbor]

Seems like a lot of things use it, but primarily it determines whether an item can be sold for credits or be put in the belt bag

Honestly I might just get rid of it as a setting

[primal linden]

I guess someone could use it for some things

But it has to be explained

[narrow pivot]

Sold in Shop does work on my end, but I only used it to disable purchasing flashlights.

I think it only works for items that are already in the shop.

[ornate harbor]

It works for enabling and disabling items from the shop

[primal linden]

maybe doing smth like "IsScrap (Disable in store)" or smth like that

[split trench]

If I’m correct I believe it just makes it a tool when disabling is scrap

[dreamy gazelle]

which mod allows to create new moon to terminal ? or allows basically to ducplicate a vanilla moon

[plush wasp]

I dont think you can do that

Besides like actually making a mod

[narrow pivot]

I don't know if this is on Lunar or Dawn's end, but I noticed an oddity with Lunar generating Dungeon configs.

It says the Facility and Mansion dungeons are unknown modded dungeons.

[mossy tide]

Oh that's weird, is this something that's changed recently?

[narrow pivot]

Yeah

[mossy tide]

Are u able to downgrade a few dawnlib versions to check if its always happened?

[narrow pivot]

It doesn't happen on DawnLib 0.9.18.

It does on 0.9.19 though.

[mossy tide]

Fun, I'll have to see which of my changes could've done it

[full helm]

Hello, I have been doctoring a modpack for a little while, specifically item weight spawns within lunarconfigmoons, but I'm hoping to allow any loot item to spawn on any moon. Any way to do that? I'd like to add another item drop mod that's why

[ornate harbor]

Try using the All tag in LunarTagInjection

[full helm]

here?

[ornate harbor]

In the file called 'LunarTagInjection'

[full helm]

I feel silly but there's no file by that name in the config section

[primal linden]

there is

maybe is not checked in LunarConfigCentral

[full helm]

this one?

[full helm]

The mod pack I’m doctoring has a bunch of adjustments spawnable loot, min/max scrap, and value multiplier. I don’t mind the configurations for the min/max scrap or the value multiplier, but I don’t like that it limits which loot spawns on certain planets with the spawnable scrap setting.
I’d like my red solo cup (and other modded items) to appear on any moon

Would just clearing the “spawnable loot” line for each planet make any scrap spawn anywhere or just make no loot spawn?

[narrow pivot]

That looks like a very old version of LunarConfig

[full helm]

I’m on the previous game version of lethal company, would updating just lunar go and ruin a bunch of things?

[plush wasp]

How old is this lunar version wth

[plush wasp]

Oooh

Hehe

Uhm its hard to help when is something old

[full helm]

I can share my code if you like

[plush wasp]

Not necessary

Try what you said and see if it works

From what i know, lunqr doesnt have a global option

[full helm]

The clearing the spawnable scrap option?

I’ll get back to ye

[narrow pivot]

It is fixed 🙏

[full helm]

so clearing the spawnable scrap spawn makes it to where none of those items spawn :/

[nocturne night]

Hey @ornate harbor is there a potential way in the next update we could be able to edit the height of objects? We can tweak width so I feel like it could make sense if height we're to be configurable too

[mossy tide]

height is not a thing

so no

[nocturne night]

But then what about the trees on Vow?

[mossy tide]

what about em

[nocturne night]

Like on Vow their super tall

[mossy tide]

yeah

[nocturne night]

But when you make lethal_company:tree spawn on uh

other moons

their shorter

theres no like

[mossy tide]

vow's are manually placed

[nocturne night]

Taller tree object

or anything

[mossy tide]

some moons just have manually placed trees

there's no height option for bigger or smaller trees lol

the width isnt changing the actual object of the width either

it's just asking you to give it how big it is so it doesnt spawn inside other objects

[nocturne night]

Hm

And im assuming

Trees in LunarConfig are automatically placed and not manually I suppose

thus not letting it have the big size

in which essentially

theres zero way of getting bigger trees on moons

[mossy tide]

unless someone registers a bigger tree, no

[nocturne night]

Hmmm

Registers a bigger tree

I wonder who could do that

[mossy tide]

not lunar or dawn

[meager whale]

are LLL custom outside objects configurable thru dawnlib?

like if I add them to my moon do those get registered and are therefore configurable thru lunar?

or is that field for the outside objects just for vanilla ones?

[worldly heath]

@ornate harbor I think MapObjects supposed to spawn inside cannot spawn outside through the "outside" config part

tried Spawning Devious Traps and vanilla traps outside, it made maps endlessly load

[ornate harbor]

I've had it work before with landmines

[worldly heath]

Devious traps besides LRAD worked in v73

Apparently the interior traps don't anymore

[ornate harbor]

Huh, maybe something with DawnLib?

I didn't change anything

[worldly heath]

Seems like it

[woven idol]

@ornate harbor can you tell anything about it?

• something similar for interiors/interior types on different moons (if it exists, but it seems like it does).

[mossy tide]

Why use that when you can use interior weights...?

Does Lunar not provide interior weights?

[ornate harbor]

Lunar does provide interior injection for enemies

[woven idol]

I'm just worried that my weights are being multiplied by some moons' hidden multipliers

maybe I'm just unlucky, but I have a feeling that moons' hidden multipliers in some way affect interior weights.

Also, can LLL show incorrect values when using "simulate"? (Maybe it doesn't account for these hidden multipliers) If its calculation is 100% reliable - sorry for disturbing

And if possible, what is the most reliable way to check spawn chances (for both - enemies and interiors)?

[mossy tide]

DawnLib recreates the simulate command and replaces LLL's, so it should be accurate

I'm not really sure what you mean by hidden multipliers

simulating on a moon will give you the spawn chance of the interiors on said moon as well

[woven idol]

like what synthwave said

[mossy tide]

Who...?

[woven idol]

this one

[woven idol]

.

[mossy tide]

Ah right

Uhhh, honestly there shouldn't be much like this in base game

Other than this there's the special enemy stuff, there's infestations, anniversary rates and maybe thats it

[woven idol]

ok, sorry for disturbing, maybe just my schizophrenia.

[carmine warren]

me!!!

[meager whale]

burmp

[ornate harbor]

blump @mossy tide ?

[mossy tide]

Probably

[meager whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376251350882582638/1500015889775329300/Eating-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

cool !

[subtle ingot]

does anyone happen to have a flat image of the moons list in the terminal with no post processing, i could swear i've seen it somewhere

[dreamy gazelle]

what is offset time config
what purpose

[dreamy gazelle]

[plush wasp]

if i had to guess

days start at like 8 am or smth like that

so prob works to change that?

[dreamy gazelle]

yeah that's it thanks
it adds time in ingame minute to the time start

past ≈1000 value, the day starts at very early morning like 6:30 am

[gloomy trellis]

This has been brought up before but you can't edit modded bestiary entries. Will this be fixed eventually?

[ornate harbor]

Lunar currently uses Dawn to access the node and keyword so unless that changes it likely won't

Is Lunar still grabbing the bestiary values correctly, just not applying the ones you set right?

[sharp anvil]

Question:

how does one check turret amount via lunar?

[narrow pivot]

Under moons, look at the bottom where it says Inside/Outside Curve

Use this to determine graphs too

[gloomy trellis]

Bestiary configs dont appear as an option at all for modded monsters, while they do have bestiarys themselves

The configs still appear for vanilla monsters if they have a bestiary

[ionic vine]

Overwolf does not own Thunderstore

[subtle ingot]

oh rlly?

is it just the mod manager then?

[ionic vine]

Even that isn’t owned by Overwolf

There is no credible source to say that Overwolf owns the TS / managers

[subtle ingot]

oh ok

[gentle zephyr]

Is Min and Max total scrap value supposed to do nothing?

[ornate harbor]

Yup, unless some other mod changes that

[gentle zephyr]

Oh, sad. I was hoping to use it in order to make moons give specific amount of scrap value for balancing purposes.

[gentle zephyr]

So disabling inside and outside curve does not work (I did start the game and landed to update the configs)

[carmine warren]

theres a mod that makes it work

i can try finding it real quick

[gentle zephyr]

Yeah, but it does not work 😭

at least not on v81

[plush wasp]

Thats so weird, why did overwolf used to automatically install with thunderstore? And why did you have to go to thunderstore website to install the mod manager?

[gentle zephyr]

Weird, no idea tho I use Gale.

Gale is THE goat

[plush wasp]

Ye im asking ebkr since he works on both those mod managers hehe

[ionic vine]

Install what with Thunderstore?

[plush wasp]

not anymore

it used to before

[ionic vine]

TSMM runs on the Overwolf platform

So the Overwolf client is always required

[plush wasp]

oh

well then

why

hehehhee

[ionic vine]

But TSMM is not owned by Overwolf

[plush wasp]

thats crazy

[ionic vine]

Not really? There was a partnership around 5 years ago where OW gave money to have a mod manager on their platform, and I was hired by Mythic to build it on top of r2

People just assume that OW owns TS, but they don’t

[plush wasp]

well

kinda clear why people would assume that no?

if you need overwolf to use it, overwolf gav emoney to make it, with the condition that it has to be on their platform

that sounds like a product own by them lel

[ionic vine]

It’s more like something commissioned

Overwolf want it on their platform because they can show ads and they get more overall impressions. Once people are using their client they might also use the in game stats trackers and other apps to boost their platform more

[plush wasp]

a lot of people, at least here, thought thunderwolf was owned by overwolf, im just saying what could have made people think that

honestly doesnt sound much of a commision

sounds more like something they own

its weird hehe

but hey, nice to know that

[ionic vine]

My point here is just that it’s super easy to reach out and ask, especially if it’s something that someone has a dislike for

I’m just correcting any misinformation

It was mentioned in the RoR2 discord that someone got the incorrect info from here, so I figured I’d correct it

[plush wasp]

fair fair

i mean who owns it isnt really that relevant tbh

the issues people have with thunderstore are still related to overwolf, even if they dont own it

[ionic vine]

There is definitely disdain when people think that OW owns it

[plush wasp]

forcing people to install more software that they dont need, and having ads everywhere is probaly why people dislike thunderstore, which both come from overwolf

[ionic vine]

there is no forcing though

this is why r2modman and Gale can exist - it's not forced

[plush wasp]

im specifically talking about installing tsmm

[ionic vine]

to continue we should probably move though

[plush wasp]

:0

okiiii

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-to-be-continued-goodbye-bye-later-gif-12062047

[ornate harbor]

Ok

I didn't forget about you guys forever

Only for a considerable amount of time

Version 0.4.0 - The B.I.G. Update

Bug fixes, Item features, and General additions

Features

• Added many new features to items, several are disabled by default as they're advanced!
• Added the ability to configure the LLL tags of a moon, this option only appears if you have LLL installed!
• Added the 'Disable Increased Chance Interior' field to enemy configs (for enemies like maneaters)
• Removed 'Is Scrap?'

Fixes

• Fixed Lunar grabbing empty map object weights (and any other issues with grabbing things that weren't initialized)
• Fixed an annoying spam message if Lunar tried to parse an empty tag on an entry
• Fixed enabling configure content on a moon removing it's tags from LunarTagInjection
• Fixed 'Catalogue Index' ignoring configure content
• Fixed inside objects freezing the game if you tried to spawn them outside

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Crafty/LunarConfig/

Now I sleep for another 400 years

[errant bolt]

Xbox, record that

[meager whale]

awesome as fuck.......

[narrow pivot]

Oh I don't know about allowing Floor Y Offset being exposed.

I believe that's a variable used to determine where it is currently as it's dropping.

[mossy tide]

its rotation

[narrow pivot]

Wait

that's the rotation value for Y?

[mossy tide]

yes

the y value in resting rotation does nothing

dont ask why its done like this

[narrow pivot]

Oh my god

[subtle ingot]

tuff

[worldly heath]

@ornate harbor question

say I have TagInjection on, and config files per moon

If I have a tag that adds creature inside with their integer value (like Flowerman:5) and the moon's config file that do so as well (like Flowerman:50)

do they combine with each other or one overrides the other

?

[ornate harbor]

The moon's Flowerman value will take presedence

[worldly heath]

hmm

so in order to make the TagInjection work what should I do

entirely disable the interior enemy function of the moon?

[narrow pivot]

Does it take precedence only if it's higher?

[ornate harbor]

No

[ornate harbor]

You would have to remove Flowerman from the moon's entry

I wish it combined but Dawnlib does it look this :p

[narrow pivot]

Got this pretty nasty error with the terminal

[Error  : Unity Log] An error occured while post processing terminal text: System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key 'Dawn.DawnMoonInfo' was not present in the dictionary.
  at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) [0x0001e] in <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_001E
  at LunarConfig.Objects.Config.LunarConfigCustomMoonOrder.GetIndex (Dawn.DawnMoonInfo moonInfo) [0x00000] in ./Objects/LunarConfigCustomMoonOrder.cs:24
  at System.Linq.EnumerableSorter`2[TElement,TKey].ComputeKeys (TElement[] elements, System.Int32 count) [0x00010] in <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_0010
  at System.Linq.EnumerableSorter`1[TElement].ComputeMap (TElement[] elements, System.Int32 count) [0x00000] in <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_0000
  at System.Linq.EnumerableSorter`1[TElement].Sort (TElement[] elements, System.Int32 count) [0x00000] in <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_0000
  at System.Linq.OrderedEnumerable`1[TElement].SortedMap (System.Linq.Buffer`1[TElement] buffer) [0x00006] in <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_0006
  at System.Linq.OrderedEnumerable`1+<GetEnumerator>d__3[TElement].MoveNext () [0x0003d] in <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_003D
  at Dawn.FixedGroupSizeGroupingAlgorithm.Group (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] input) [0x0008d] in ./src/API/Moons/IMoonGroupAlgorithm.cs:59
  at Dawn.MainGroupAlgorithm.Group (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] input, System.Boolean reverse) [0x0008a] in ./src/API/Moons/IMoonGroupAlgorithm.cs:207
  at Dawn.MoonRegistrationHandler.DynamicMoonCatalogue (On.Terminal+orig_TextPostProcess orig, Terminal self, System.String modifieddisplaytext, TerminalNode node) [0x00075] in ./src/API/Moons/.MoonRegistrationHandler.cs:393
  at DMD<>?2023343454.Hook<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?238029012 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x0001b] in <0dc2774ac9ce4d1db1620f6d70a71efe>:IL_001B
  at DMD<>?-478419032.Trampoline<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?492734626 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x00031] in <cddac6f97e644bb38c72c2d7a5409a64>:IL_0031
  at Dawn.UnlockableRegistrationHandler.AddShipUpgradesToTerminal (On.Terminal+orig_TextPostProcess orig, Terminal self, System.String modifiedDisplayText, TerminalNode node) [0x00000] in ./src/API/Unlockables/.UnlockableItemRegistrationHandler.cs:130
  at DMD<>?1057266410.Hook<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?-481176688 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x0001b] in <197fd76e044e400ca8b92e203ab11354>:IL_001B
  at DMD<>?-2030099692.Trampoline<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?-1164809812 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x00031] in <78ba877cbd594e008a57609305d29a95>:IL_0031
  at Dawn.Internal.TerminalPatches.UpdateItemPrices (On.Terminal+orig_TextPostProcess orig, Terminal self, System.String modifieddisplaytext, TerminalNode node) [0x0000f] in ./src/Internal/Patches/TerminalPatches.cs:138
  at DMD<>?-1147765630.Hook<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?478929712 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x0001b] in <896ad820f8174e09b2a4412248a282b4>:IL_001B
  at DMD<>?1490508432.Trampoline<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?-359730198 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x00031] in <c37e9a298022440880ff569b12e6322d>:IL_0031
  at Dawn.Internal.TerminalPatches.HandleTerminalTextModifiers (On.Terminal+orig_TextPostProcess orig, Terminal self, System.String modifieddisplaytext, TerminalNode node) [0x00000] in ./src/Internal/Patches/TerminalPatches.cs:125
  at DMD<>?-1950961622.Hook<Terminal::TextPostProcess>?-775502524 (Terminal , System.String , TerminalNode ) [0x0001b] in <b62abdf25d5d46adb7e226e78084ca0f>:IL_001B
  at DMD<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?-87647176.LoadNewNode (Terminal this, TerminalNode node) [0x00098] in <cafb19973dd249ecb79d75ed576858cf>:IL_0098```

The catalogue index option breaks something

[normal quarry]

skul

[plush wasp]

emoji

[worldly heath]

Aight thanks for the precision

[ornate harbor]

They did write a reason for reposting it in the description but I don't understand what they mean

Anyways I'll take this as affirmation if I have people stealing my mod

[ornate harbor]

CustomMoonOrder 24 (for later me)

[worldly heath]

@ornate harbor 'sup, I'm continuing the discussion I had over the Biodiversity Thread over here about the spawn rules of the "Coil-Crab" entity ; apparently the entity has two distinct spawn weights, one normal one and one for stormy weather.

Would it be possible for you to make Lunar handle the spawn weight over Biodiversity?

[ornate harbor]

If Biodiversity uses Dawnlib to do it I should already override it

[plush wasp]

I dont think it uses dawnlib

[ornate harbor]

In that case no, not really

I'd just ask them to add a toggle off for the extra stormy weight

[worldly heath]

@meager whale

[ornate harbor]

And you add it in Lunar yourself

[worldly heath]

that's fine I use Lunar for everything anyway

LLL config is way too anemic for my taste

[meager whale]

what do you WANT!!!!

:(

jk hi

[worldly heath]

'sup

[ornate harbor]

Read from here Monty :D

[plush wasp]

Montaña doesnt work on biod anymore because he hates everyone

[meager whale]

Not gonna speak for the new team, I don't lead the mod anymore but I personally wouldn't like that? The whole point is that it spawns more on a specific weather since its mechanic is centered around being a lightning rod

according to doppelganger lunarconfig just cannot modify coil-crab weights, right?

[ornate harbor]

It can change the basic weights, just not the stormy ones

[worldly heath]

yeah on non-stormy weather it doesn't seem to work

[ornate harbor]

Oh nevermind I guess

[worldly heath]

we had a stormy one with couple of these

[meager whale]

So you can't change the basic weights? but the stormy ones are still applied?

Or does having lunarconfig present just prevent coilcrabs from showing up EXCEPT when it's stormy?

[worldly heath]

yes and no, its inconsistent on non-stormy and seem consistent during stormy

I'll have to do more testing

[gentle zephyr]

Can't you disable spawning of creatures in Biodiversity?

[worldly heath]

yeah

[ornate harbor]

You could just do that and do all the spawning yourself in Lunar then no?

[meager whale]

that might just be cuz their weights on non-stormy are lower than on stormy, lol

[meager whale]

does lunar allow weathers to influence spawn weights?

[worldly heath]

to maintain its kinda an hassle to not have everything at the same location, ergo Lunar

[ornate harbor]

Yes

So you could just do that functionality yourself

[worldly heath]

haven't tested with the weather function

[meager whale]

And the issue here is that Lunar cannot config Coil-crabs at all?

[worldly heath]

truthfully

[meager whale]

Or is it smth else

[worldly heath]

ykwhat, I'll do some more testing with no Bio' configs but Lunar's, no Lunar Ones but Bio's, and with both

with and without stormy

[meager whale]

aight!

[ornate harbor]

Thanks for your time Monty

We will continue to ping you for biodiversity related questions

Jk :p

[meager whale]

nah yeah do so

cuz I don't think beef and jacu know enough about how coil-crabs work to really answer these anyway :P

[carmine warren]

speaking of that, do the injections add, override, or get overriden? like lets say i have old birds at 80 for stormy, would it become 81, 80, or 1 on vow

[ornate harbor]

I would guess they get added together, I know how it works with tags and I'll write that here for anyone:

• If the moon has a weight for the thing that weight is used over tags
• If the moon has no weight for the thing but has a tag with weight for the thing that weight is used
• If the moon has no weight for the thing but has multiple tags with weight for the thing they are averaged out and then used

@mossy tide may know the intricacies better than me for the weather and dungeon injections

[worldly heath]

@ornate harbor @meager whale did some test with the CoilCrab on non-stormy weather only ; with only Bio' ruling the spawn weight, then only Lunar, then both

Seems like its completely ignored

[rustic mural]

Do Injections override existing spawns or add to them and if they do override is there a way to make it so it adds? Like if I can do it like "braken+= 5" or something.

So for example if I made it so a specific weather adds braken outside, if the map already has outside braken at a higher rate do they have their rate lowered or added onto?

[gentle zephyr]

I assume since it is called injection it means adding on top of

[rustic mural]

That's my assumption as well

[plush wasp]

you can do that yeah

works like that

you can add, subtract, multiply and i think divide too

[rustic mural]

Can you do that in everything? because normally I see it being something like:

Large axle:4

So can I do instead:

Large axle+=4

?

[plush wasp]

I dont remember the exact way to type it

Maybe it was :+ or +:

[ornate harbor]

: and :+ will do the same thing

[plush wasp]

[rustic mural]

Thank you for the heads up crafty

[meager whale]

So it should be fine then? or

[worldly heath]

not really no considering neither modified the spawn weight on non-stormies

so idk what to think

[meager whale]

oh that's weird as hell

I'd likely report the issue with non-stormies to the biodiversity thread and @ mr salted beef and JacuJ

[nocturne night]

Is the Dawnlib and LunarConfig situation fixed up?

[spark mountain]

what is clamp in the LunarConfigDungeons

[spark mountain]

how the daytime and interior curve spawn works?

outside curve as well

[gentle zephyr]

It dictates how likely an enemy is to spawn during hour. It's a graph that goes from 6:00 am to 12:00 am and depending on how high the function is at given hour it chooses the corresponding value to tell the game how likely an enemy is to spawn. Usually it gets really high at 12:00 am. The Daytime curve is about spawning the enemies like manticoils, tulipsnakes etc. basically daytime enemies. Interior curve is about interior. Self explanatory and outside curve is about enemies that spawn outside druing the evening and night aka the more hostile fauna.

[spark mountain]

alr thanks

[errant bluff]

"yes"
but from my testing seems to be a combo of mods if you mean the issue were you cant get on moons
dawnlib and lunarconfig together are fine
now I'm trying to figure out which additional mod added would be causing issues

can confirm its not code rebirth at least

[mossy tide]

what does this even mean, lunarconfig relies on dawnlib

what situation is there

[errant bluff]

having it myself but in a larger pack
trying to go to moons will just leave you in an endless loop were the ship wont land
its another mod most likely as just dawnlib and lunarconfig together are fine

[nocturne night]

Well something about Dawnlib and Lunarconfig in their new respective updates breaks, I dunno

[errant bluff]

oh just created it in a smaller profile

[nocturne night]

[errant bluff]

happened after aadding both

GAH

forgot to saev log

[nocturne night]

So one of these mods breaks them

[mossy tide]

you said both and listed 3 mods, are you unable to just test adding each of those mods one by one?

[errant bluff]

doing that now

i forgot I added starlancer which has depedants and code rebirth
redid again without starlancer and its depedants

[woven idol]

try to disable arachnophobia event in emergency dice mod and any events from disabled/deleted mods - caused much issues with this mod for me.
"Allowed Effects"*

[errant bluff]

so landing is fine with surfaced and emergency dice & lunar config but add code rebirth and then it causes issues
disable emergency dice or lunar config and it loads fine

hmm?

[errant bluff]

i'll try that next

[nocturne night]

So somehow CodeRebirth has a problem with one of those then

its not DawnLib nor Lunar

[errant bluff]

seems to be something between
emergency die or lunar config gets haywire when you add code rebirth
disabling any of the 3 fixes it

[nocturne night]

Okay so

Its not just CodeRebirth

Im testing a modpack without it and it still fucks up

Not even with Surfaced

[errant bluff]

most likely another dawnlib depedent?
thats how I narrowed it down

[nocturne night]

Welp

I know it ain't my moon

Can't be TerraScrap

I think the new updates for Lunar and Dawn hate each other somehow but I don't even know how thats possible

no thats not possible

Imma remove Boom Varients and see what happens

[nocturne night]

send that in #help-and-troubleshooting

Pawsy will single out the errors

Well at this point imma keep using DawnLib 0.9.21 and LunarConfig 0.3.14

[nocturne night]

Okay so no

Its purely DawnLib and LunarConfig combating against each other for some reason

I made a pack with just Lunar, Dawnlib and their dependancies

and yeah

[mossy tide]

Oh right yeah that is a new bug introduced in latest lunar

It's not dawn and lunar fighting eachother, dawn is literally the dependency for it

[nocturne night]

I was gonna say I dunno what else to say

[narrow pivot]

Is it the [planetTime] bug?

[nocturne night]

Yes

[narrow pivot]

Disable catalogue indexing under moon settings, it's bugged currently

[nocturne night]

Ah alrighty

[narrow pivot]

Yeah, it's a temporary fix until Dawn or Lunar get updated

[nocturne night]

I'd say Lunar then

Xu says its a Lunar bug so

[narrow pivot]

Yeah most likely

Well yeah definitely since Xu would definitely know

[nocturne night]

Xu is smarts

[narrow pivot]

I just mean in that they would know if it were Dawn

[nocturne night]

a-

[narrow pivot]

My phrasing is bad

[nocturne night]

don't worry

-# my everything is bad

wait Terra

would I just make the Catalogue Index -1 to disable it?

[ornate harbor]

I believe they mean disabling it in LunarConfigCentral

Under Moons

[nocturne night]

Oooooh gotcha

[ornate harbor]

Anyone got some reproduction steps?

I'm testing a fix

[narrow pivot]

Simply enabling it causes the bug

[nocturne night]

well

step 1: go out to a bar

step 2: meet a nice lady-

[errant bluff]

for me it was
lunar config + code rebirth +
Emergency Dice Updated

oh

steps

my bad
add those 3 mods along with any of their depedncies
load game
create save
try to land on moon
get stuck in endless loop of never landing

[carmine warren]

broooo thats why it was broken for me 2 days ago

[errant bluff]

to be precise when code rebirth is added that when the issue occurs
disable emegency dice or code rebirth and its fine

[carmine warren]

i thought it was something completely different

[ornate harbor]

There are two different issues going on here

[ornate harbor]

I don't even know where to begin with this one, I don't know why that would be happening but I can confirm I also get that problem

The catalogue index issue, that I can fix

I'll push that out now

Version 0.4.1

Features

• Readded 'Is Scrap?'

Fixes

• Fixed the catalogue index bug
• Fixed changelog

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Crafty/LunarConfig/

[carmine warren]

i was referring to the catalogue index mb

[ornate harbor]

Also for anyone curious on the catalogue index problem, the code for that feature was written by Bongo, but Bongo didn't write it with 'Configure Content' in mind, so it would always be applied regardless of whether that option was enabled. When I fixed that issue with Bongo's help in 0.4.0, it was done incorrectly.

So I fixed it to work right now

[carmine warren]

why was "is scrap?" removed in the first place? im just curious

[ornate harbor]

Because it's a little complicated and I thought nobody cared about it

I since learned otherwise so I added it back

[pulsar crow]

it says report this in the screenshot.

[errant bluff]

probably blind but were is hte part for changing how much battery and item has

[reef elk]

I loved that feature tbh

Also uuuuuUUUUUUUUGH. Some of my spawning isn't working. I'm not sure why but it isn't spawning brackens outside as intended, and it's changed on LC and LLL.

I feel like I'm missing something but idk what, been at it for 2 hours and it's frustrating

[plush wasp]

do you have starlancerenemyescape?

or aifix idr the name lol

[reef elk]

AI Fix yes, enemyescape no

[plush wasp]

you need the aifix hehe

also in what moon are you trying?

[reef elk]

I have that one. Also, I turned off LunarConfig and it works with my lethal level loader customizations LC ain't working but it has the same settings

Pareidolia my beloved

It works just fine with LLL

[plush wasp]

oh so bracken works fine with LLL but not Lunar?

[reef elk]

Correct, and idk why

[plush wasp]

of course you have content config enabled

[reef elk]

Yuh I believe so

[plush wasp]

and disable the one in LLL

[reef elk]

So

LLL settings keep to normal
put LLL settings in LunarC

I'll send an example screenshot as to what I mean btw

This is typical to spawn at the beginning of the day, this is with LunarC turned off.

[plush wasp]

oh i thought you meant screenie of the config lol

[reef elk]

I mean I could do that too

First one is for LL, while the second one is for LunarC

Maybe bc there's spaces between the enemies in LLL?

Unsure at this point

[plush wasp]

wat

both look the same

which ones which??

is that thunderstore omg

ugly muehehehhe

[reef elk]

I think it's the spaces in LLL

LunarC uses spaces to gap the entities when LLL doesn't. That's why it might be imcompatible due to formatting.

Gonna try it out

[plush wasp]

formatting shouldnt be unless done really bad

a space shouldnt be the reason but try it anyways i guess

idk what you mean by the spaces

[reef elk]

Red = example with no spaces in LLL, yellow is with my current setup w/spaces, which could be causing the error

Maybe that's why tbh

Gonna test it

[plush wasp]

but you just said that LLL does work

[reef elk]

The entity wasn't spawning overall, but it only spawned inside

Gonna test outside rq

Yep...LunarC is messing with it somehow :/ Gonna do some bug testing.

[plush wasp]

im so confused

[errant bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pelicula-western-meme-movie-james-cameron-gif-17538857

[plush wasp]

do you have both lunar enable content and LLL enable content?

[reef elk]

Yuh

So far so good, testing bugs and misformatting errors

[plush wasp]

choose one

[reef elk]

Smallest of typos fucks my shit up something fierce

[plush wasp]

dont use both at the same time

[reef elk]

Oh?

Is that what's supposed to happen or is this just a recommendation 🥲

[plush wasp]

either enable the content in LLL or in Lunar

not in both

to prevent any incompatibilities

we dont know which one takes priority over the other

[reef elk]

[We] should prob figure that out

But for now

I shall use LunarC and see\

[plush wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/we-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-14928204287258878513

[reef elk]

Yuh LunarC isn't working :/

[plush wasp]

i would ask you to show your config in lunar but, without gale, a video would prob be better xD

[reef elk]

Let me do some digging

Would adjusting the probability curve help on moons? I haven't touched that yet

But I'm also afraid to mess w/it regarding entities

[plush wasp]

scaryy

you gotta add bracken to daytime enemies in lunar

if you want it to spawn at the start

[gentle zephyr]

Are there plans to add battery life to item configs?

So we can configure them?

It would have 2 fields

Battery capacity (numbers idk) if -1 makes it infinite, if 0 makes it always discharged no matter what and >0 just sets the capacity to that number

and ofc an option like
Enable battery config (Boolean) in the managing what lunar configs you want to use window

[errant bluff]

agree

[crisp apex]

What happens if you change something in a config (Like Spawnable scrap) and then disable it? Will it let other mods add their scrap to the moon without Lunar setting it back?

Because I’m currently having an issue where scrap mods don’t do anything since Lunar overwrites scrap spawns on moons.

[primal linden]

Nuevo subscriptor?

[plush wasp]

yo