I kinda saw it as the opposite
#The Cabinet
thick heart
Rend was the mansion moon, kinda like a tutorial for them and then dine and titan were allowed to be a little more strange
such as having more traps
and other interiors
slender halo
I just MIGHT be cooked
mint eagle
cinder hawk
I just MIGHT be cooked
hehe
what interior is this ?
manic helm
still oracle
the table
cinder hawk
the table
manic helm
I genuenly didnt realise this mod blew up
lc on youtube is DEAD so you don't see it but it's in like every modpack ever i think
tame pelican
lc on youtube is DEAD so you don't see it but it's in like every modpack ever i ...
cope
mint eagle
I mean in the mainstream sense, yeah
Only LC videos getting over 100k views now are from big channels with loyal viewer bases
remote otter
only smi7i or idk how he called
remote otter
i think he is offering to kiss
tame pelican
What did Dr. Minecraft mean by this
sorry that was mean and I did not elaborate LOL
but I saw a great lc video today that's like 2 weeks old
tbf it doesn't have too many views
but i've been seeing a ton of lc content comin' out as of late
idk why
also one from 4 weeks ago (72 sub channel š)
so you are right, lol
BUT there is still good content coming out , believe it or not
tame pelican
which is stupid! and should never be used as a valuable metric for most things
niche communities are fucking goated
mint eagle
Welcome to the internet
tame pelican
i would know im dr minecraft
gentle plover
Yeah sadly the term dead has like bad connotations to it. But it doesnt always mean that in a bad way, there hasnt been all that much lethal content releasing lately, and since repo came out, many people play that game over this one. The game is great and the content is too, its just unfortunatelly cooked.
Hopefully it has a comeback when zeekers releases a big update
mint eagle
When the ending comes out I bet it will make a bit of a comeback
Everberonās lore videos do pretty well view-wise so there clearly is interest in that
still oracle
WHAT
legitimately
this is the first time i have ever seen lethal company used in a content farm
mint eagle
I wonder what the Eyeless Dog and Ghost Girl models are ripped from, those are clearly not the actual designs
Eyeless Dog could be SCP 939
real falcon
this is the first time i have ever seen lethal company used in a content farm
theres a lot more than this, theres atleast 2 or three other content farmers that repost brainrot LC
REPO got the same treatment
celest wyvern
Whats funny there are 1.20.1 lethal company mods but they are not good
manic helm
they're not good because there's no cabinet in them
real falcon
probably made in mcreator or some other crap
still oracle
@cinder hawk youll never believe it but i found an issue with the cabinet just now
if you kill it while its shaking, the growling noise doesnt stop
remote otter
me trying to hear the image
still oracle
me trying to hear the image
still oracle
i want to also suggest that if the cabinet drops the extension ladder from too much weight then the ladder gets popped out
this may sound stupid but apparently hoarding bugs make the ladder pop out
if they pick it up and drop it
remote otter
i want to also suggest that if the cabinet drops the extension ladder from too m...
ngl that would be peaksome
split rampart
does microwave spin bug work on the cabinet
still oracle
it wouldnt because you have to hold E on the cabinets top
items dont get parented for dropping on it
split rampart
unplayable, officially worst entity ever
halcyon grotto
How dare it leave the poor items as orphans
cinder hawk
if you kill it while its shaking, the growling noise doesnt stop
damit
gentle plover
Lmao
merry cobalt
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6HbGczZYpRw
TABLE PEAKS
gentle plover
da taable
gentle plover
i wonder what would happen if u put the cabinet on mixamo
manic helm
do it
manic helm
no cabinet footage makes me sad
cinder hawk
moar pls
split rampart
i feel as though this is not supposed to happen
still oracle
why is there a random adamance sliver at the end
split rampart
first person spectating somebody outside
still oracle
oh
still oracle
manic helm
i feel as though this is not supposed to happen
Oh apparently that still happens
Yeah the cabinet can just kill you remotely seemingly at random I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be fixed
manic helm
@cinder hawk why does it do that
tame pelican
no distance check maybe?
manic helm
it doesn't do that always... .
severe iris
Yeah we had it happen many times while testing, we fixed one edge case of it doing that but I guess something else is causing it
cinder hawk
i feel as though this is not supposed to happen
whyyyy does this happen again ?! D:
also you shouldn't look at it like this anwyway but yea
cinder hawk
nooooo dont show him gambling hes gonna get... ugh... addicted
manic helm
also you shouldn't look at it like this anwyway but yea
yeah i forgot to mention that bro was just full staring at it and accepting a completely avoidable death
thgats why jack needs to rewrite the dang bestiary
and i don't think it's really mentioned in the mod description so maybe i should do that
severe iris
And you need to give me proper sound direction 
manic helm
Who made the animations for the cabinet?
@gentle plover
gentle plover
Vat
manic helm
you
remote otter
Hiiii
Your work is amazing omg
Idk if its a combination of animation and code but they work perfectly
Makes it go the next step
still oracle
yes the animations are very good
i love how expressive the arm movement is
it feels like a creepy ghoul
and thats a good thing
remote otter
Like i mean the animations are great enough to feel like they are part of the game
Like
Lots of other enemy mods but none of them have like thst level
And from what ive been seeing it does have to do with the animation
Also im not saying the other mods are bad pls dont take it wrong
Its just like, this enemy its in a complete other level
Same with locker
still oracle
the cabinet is by far the closest modded monster to zeekerss' own style
even compared to the locker, its got some pretty jarring audio and visual effects
and like, yeah they work for the model, but the only thing similar is the old bird, which has in game lore explanations for those design choices, and also ties into their mechanics
i guess this does also for the locker to be more suddenly jarring, but its too loud and flashy imo
the only thing about the cabinet is the jester already exists and i dont know if zeekerss would make or consider two "box enemies" existing together
manic helm
they're not really hte same though
still oracle
and yeah i know thats all really nitpicky
but thats the thing about zeekerss' creationism style
it is so fucking specific
and genuinely, really hard to get down right
still oracle
they're not really hte same though
mechanically no
"shell" wise, also no, one is furniture imitation, one is toy imitation
but like still
theyre both boxes
manic helm
if anythign they're opposites
one reveals itslef and kills you other doesnt' want to be seen and kills you
remote otter
the cabinet is by far the closest modded monster to zeekerss' own style
even com...
Yes exactly thats what i mean
Locker also is amazing but just because is a bit simple in like overall mechanic i can understand why it isnt AS zeekers style
remote otter
those 2 are also extremely good but simple in nature
mimics dont work in most places either
and peepers are amazing but tulip snakes are also a thing
still oracle
manic helm
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/lDs1WYwerEgnhuK79?invite=cr-MSxGSnks...
Deserved
Stop killing my son
still oracle
idek why he wanted to kill it here
not exactly a moon that it would get hit while fighting something else
gentle plover
Your work is amazing omg
I appreciate it. Thank you very much
The coding was done by @cinder hawk
slender halo
Our art skills have regressed so much due to not having properly drawn in a year but whatever. take cabinet
severe iris
love the cat one
cinder hawk
Our art skills have regressed so much due to not having properly drawn in a year...
yay cute cabnet art
slender halo
the only thing about the cabinet is the jester already exists and i dont know if...
Forest keepers and brackens as well as manticoils and giant sapsuckers coexist, so
Roaming locusts and circuit bees too
mint eagle
Thatās not the same thing
We are used to there being different specifies of insects that look kinda similar, meanwhile two fictional enemies with very similar designs may stick out as being repetitive
still oracle
roaming locusts and circuit bees use the exact same model, but thats understandable because a normal person wouldnt bother to closely inspect the model of them, especially since they are small in game, the only difference is one is red (circuit)
and yeah like adjective said, its not that there cant be multiple of a specific genus
its just that the cabinet and the jester are both boxes
thats literally it
they both dont have natural origins, they just exist as weird vaguely human-like limbs that inhabit a box
and thats not really a problem per-se, but in the context of if zeekerss made both, he would probably only use one
every monster has a very distinct model and design choices, except for roaming locusts and circuit bees using the same model
but i gave the explanation why this particular case doesnt matter as much
the jester and the cabinet are very big standouts and since every other monster has unique attributes to their appearance, two monsters that are human-like limbs hiding inside a box isnt very likely to exist in pure vanilla
another nitpick actually
every vanilla "manor enemy" is either a toy turned into horror, or a full human figure that has unnatural properties, and the nutcracker is technically both
zeekerss hasnt made fake furniture or fake walls or anything that would be part of the building itself as a monster
i still love the cabinet regardless, i just dont think it would exist as a zeekerss creation
his focus on monsters is more so that they would be their own separate objects from that of whatever building you are in
if he were to create a monster that is trying to blend in with the building, it would have to either change its appearance based on the interior, or every interior has to have one of the same prop
probably at least
i suppose every interior has a cardboard box actually so i guess fuck me and kill me and shoot me also
still oracle
i know what this says guys trust
real falcon
Our art skills have regressed so much due to not having properly drawn in a year...
Do like the detail of the employee looking away from their (presumably) pet cabinet
It looks like a cat in the drawings so Itās funny to imagine it like a cat bringing in a dead mouse or something
manic helm
if he were to create a monster that is trying to blend in with the building, it ...
THE CABINET IS NOT TRYING TO BLEND IN
still oracle
then thats like
idk
i feel like that should be one of its goals
i mean the bestiary entry literally describes it as doing such
it gets mad if you see its real self
manic helm
That's not the bestiary entry
manic helm
i mean the bestiary entry literally describes it as doing such
If the bestiary entry does that I must have missed it
Because that's not supposed to be part of it
It's not a mimic
Not in lore
Not in gameplay
still oracle
that is a bit baffling to me im not gonna lie
you have the design and behavior set up in a way like its meant to fool you
maybe not 100%, sure
but like
so much about the cabinet screams that
no pun intended btw
manic helm
because following uncomfortably closely behind you and getting pissed if you don't play along with its game is very secretive
real falcon
I mean the first few times Iāve seen people find it blind they didnāt even pay any attention to it until it moved
manic helm
because following uncomfortably closely behind you and getting pissed if you don...
Very good strategy of fooling you into thinking it is a regular piece of furniture
real falcon
So itās a mimic until you learn what to look for; which is almost every mimic ever
still oracle
then wdym thats not a goal of the cabinet
if youre describing how it fools you
how is that not meant to be what it does primarily
manic helm
That was sarcasm
still oracle
manic helm
The cabinet is like the most obnoxious thing ever it's not fooling anyone because it's not trying to
It's too stupid for that
still oracle
then why does it have mechanics to suggest otherwise
it doesnt start following players until they pass by it enough
it hides back in its shell like its trying to pretend it never moved
manic helm
Because it doesn't like it when people look at it
manic helm
it doesnt start following players until they pass by it enough
That's not a thing
still oracle
that is a thing
idk the exact number you have to pass it but i know that is a thing
manic helm
It doesn't follow if it's being LOOKED AT
still oracle
alternatively interact with the doors and it instantly starts following you
i do mean pass it without keeping watch btw
that is how its functioned in my experience since the first day i tried
manic helm
Oh right
I think it might be because of the line of sight thing
If you DON'T look at it in the first place it won't follow you
For no cabinet surprises
Maybe the check for that is being weird
Basically it tries to make sure you saw that it's there before starting to follow you
still oracle
its probably bugged then
btw good time to mention the cabinet chases non-host clients differently
its almost like its slower
from whatever the set chase speed is
manic helm
I don't know why that would happen
still oracle
well thats probably zeekerss fault more
there is a fuck ton of non-host client differences for how monsters move and behave
because of networking jank
manic helm
It's too stupid for that
Why WOULD the cabinet try to fool you?
It's not even trying to kill you
still oracle
and the extremeity depends on regional difference
this also effects various other things like the inventory status of yourself but its mostly noticable for monsters
masked will slide a bit more after being hit
barbers slide forwards a bit after hopping
old birds can see you while flying if youre crouched
yes, theyre not supposed to be able to
the game does not properly mark non-host clients as crouched normally
this is fixed in additionalnetworking
manic helm
Why WOULD the cabinet try to fool you?
It's not even trying to kill you
The cabinet is the deadliest thing in the mansion after the jester it does not NEED to hide to kill you
still oracle
bracken also aggros faster for non-host because the status of where they are looking or standing is lagging behind from host
and so, so, so many more fuckass issues
still oracle
barbers slide forwards a bit after hopping
btw this is probably the worst one of my examples
i fucking HATE dealing with that shit
molten flint
I thought barberfixes fixed that
tame pelican
Our art skills have regressed so much due to not having properly drawn in a year...
your shit's still clean <3
still oracle
oh yeah forgot to say
your art is definitely still good idk wtf youre talking about
molten flint
If I put the cabinet on Spawnable interior enemies will work?
still oracle
whar
oh
if via content configuration thing that is not LLL, yes
idk if it overrides the cabinet config weight string or combines it
unless you use centralconfig in which case it does override but you probably dont
slender halo
barbers slide forwards a bit after hopping
I thought this only went for clients
Is there a reason why cabinets donāt like being looked at or are they just weird like that
manic helm
Shy
slender halo
Awee
That's cute lol
They're already the cutest modded entity to us, so this just make them even cuter
remote otter
Cutest really? Wow hehe
slender halo
Yeah there's just something about them that's appealing
Boom birds used to be the cutest to us before cabinets came out
celest wyvern
Can i pet the cabinet?
manic helm
I can confirm
The cabinet would like it if you wiped the dust off of it
neon imp
what's that mod that adds the chef variant to the butler?
still oracle
what's that mod that adds the chef variant to the butler?
extraenemyvariety
also recommend colorfulenemyvariety
neon imp
extraenemyvariety
does both of them work for v73?
slender halo
Yes
remote otter
does both of them work for v73?
Ys of course yes of course
still oracle
@manic helm @cinder hawk https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/lI3Meavx47FXawOvf?invite=cr-MSxoSW0sMTI1MTU0MDY3&v=20
not me recording btw
cinder hawk
<@403222475418238987> <@177826384696049664> https://medal.tv/games/lethal-compan...
owno it doin the slide again
how much damage does the spOOn does ?
tame pelican
<@403222475418238987> <@177826384696049664> https://medal.tv/games/lethal-compan...
Insanely heat clip bro
you did him in w the
still oracle
how much damage does the spOOn does ?
dos
still oracle
owno it doin the slide again
i think this is just due to the harbinger teleporting it when its standing still
cinder hawk
i think this is just due to the harbinger teleporting it when its standing still
the harmbringer
remote otter
hamburger
split rampart
new custom harbinger skin the hamburnger
still oracle
cinder hawk
is this an interior ?
drifting gyro
this looks like seichi's exterior why is the cabinet there
still oracle
i spawned it with imperium
drifting gyro
makes sense
manic helm
FOR THE LAST TIME
NO WE ARE NOT "KEEPING HIM"
IT'S AN ELDRITCH ABOMINATION
LEAD IT BACK INSIDE
split rampart
i would like to have a Cabinet of my own
manic helm
@cinder hawk do we tell him?
manic helm
i would like to have a Cabinet of my own
Finger on monkey's paw curls
manic helm
I'M NOT LETTING THAT THING IN THE SHIP IT WILL KILL US WHILE WE SLEEP
cinder hawk
wh.. wha
manic helm
Pulls out shotgun
IF YOU TWO BRING IT TO THE SHIP I'M GONNA SHOOT IT
split rampart
cinder hawk
i think ya should listen to employee Vector, he knows stuff about furnitures and appliances
split rampart
exacly
still oracle
friend shaped
mortal trench
IT'S FURNITURE
Can I beat it to death with a shovel?
split rampart
all furniture is susceptible to The Shovel
manic helm
Can I beat it to death with a shovel?
it is not advised but it's better than trying to keep it as a pet so go for it
if you die it's not my fault
mortal trench
if you die it's not my fault
Don't worry, I've had practice
remote otter
Hi i have a cabinet pet
They so cute
It helps me carry lots of items!!
Its a bit shy tho but thats ok!!
worthy matrix
I would love a cabinet plushie scrap item
split rampart
that'd be so cool
worthy matrix
Perfection
In general, a mod like Monster Plushies could heavily benefit from an update. It does not even feature the fox, butler, barber and so on, which is a shame honestly
still oracle
there exists teasers of an old bird and tulip snake plush
but they never got fully implemented
no idea what the dev is up to either
worthy matrix
I see
mortal trench
In the next update, could spawn weights be added to demonmaes moons?
remote otter
Cant you add them yourself?
Like, in the meantime
Its not easy to add weights so if you can provide weights yourself it would be really appreciated :3
mortal trench
I could yeah, it's not that big of a issue. It's just a bit weird that there isn't spawn weights for demonmaes out of the box.
mortal trench
Its not easy to add weights so if you can provide weights yourself it would be r...
And yeah, I could probably take a crack at it
Got a pretty busy schedule so I might not post them today, but I'll see what I can do
remote otter
I could yeah, it's not that big of a issue. It's just a bit weird that there isn...
There are way too many moons in the game
Would be crazy to add specific weights for every single moon
Ways to go about that is Vanilla: and Custom: that will give a global weight for every moon
cinder hawk
In the next update, could spawn weights be added to demonmaes moons?
i am not familiar with those but sure if someone give a good set of weights
manic helm
Hey guys
Cabinet
still oracle
waow
tiny kestrel
split rampart
cinder hawk
@still oracle hey you the proffesional entity destroyer
do you know how long flash grenade and homemade flashbang stun last on enemies ?
molten flint
7.5s x stunmultiplier
cinder hawk
7.5s x stunmultiplier
thanks
molten flint
from wiki
cinder hawk
from wiki
ah shiet i looked at the actual flashbang page
@manic helm look, you must now decide about the stun multipler
mortal trench
<@381651321704677379> hey you the proffesional entity destroyer
Standard is 5 seconds, that's at a standard 1.0 multiplier
Not sure where leubes got 7.5 seconds from
The only way any entity would be stunned for 7.5 seconds is if they had a multiplier of 1.5
tame pelican
Standard is 5 seconds, that's at a standard 1.0 multiplier
wiki says the Thumper's x1.0 results in a 7.5
thats probably where they got it from
still oracle
wiki says the Thumper's x1.0 results in a 7.5
average wiki
fun fact about stunned hygroderes btw
they cant do damage in that state
actually one of the more useful monsters to stun
tame pelican
that's neato
tame pelican
average wiki
You should contribute to the miraheze wiki š„ŗ
it's so butt empty and you know way too much about the game
still oracle
You should contribute to the miraheze wiki š„ŗ
too lazy
tame pelican
gatekeeping important information that would improve the currently available learning resources š
typical Sweat!
still oracle
also important to note i dont know the exact specifics of how some things work or function
i havent decompiled the game, idk how to properly read code, and i get most of my information from self hypothesis, testing, and people like buttery stancakes
like i know challenge moons have various modifiers, but if you asked me how the game chooses what the modifiers apply to, or how the modifiers are chosen to be in place, i could not tell you
remote otter
Fake fan
split rampart
industrial fan
thick heart
still oracle
new lore just dropped
manic helm
The cabinet is also a giant sapsucker
still oracle
The cabinet is also a giant sapsucker
why doesnt it do a silly dance sometimes then....???
checkmate, buddy
it just does this sometimes
still oracle
the fact i listen to this song is so funny
tame pelican
the cabinet if it was in repo
cinder hawk
oh my
twilit scroll
lmfao
manic helm
is that cabinet
what is that
real falcon
what is that
cabinet
twilit scroll
what is that
it's cabinet
small arrow
cabernart
merry cobalt
I was boutta say sum until I realized this is most likely satire
Now I'm curious though if cabinet is straight up a possessed piece of furniture with arms glued on or if somethings actually inside it
manic helm
Now I'm curious though if cabinet is straight up a possessed piece of furniture ...
it's something
the cabinet is definitely something
gentle plover
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300938706852642932/1301336694464839770/2...
i remember sending you this when i was rigging it š
still oracle
mint eagle
š¤Ø šø
cinder hawk
I have problem
My "friend" is too busy playing world of tanks that he won't help me test the mod
I need to see what give the best results for the stun mechanic and doing so in solo doesn't give full informations
And testing stuns is borderline impossible alone with multiple instances of the game
We could redo like we did last time but in order to avoid language barrier between me and you (whoever you are) id have to write in chat
(i already have somewhat difficulties in my own language because i have a little stuttering + often have to find my words and so it way worse in another language)
(+ my accent that is apparently hard to listen to ;_; )
still oracle
(+ my accent that is apparently hard to listen to ;_; )
thats just been me
im bad at hearing french accents in general
no offense
cinder hawk
i can try to have a better accent but ill have to prepare sentence in my head first and then speak slowly
@still oracle you tell me if you can help me
still oracle
i mean, i should be able to again
cinder hawk
i mean, i should be able to again
ill fix some tiny things first and then take out my doggo
you still there in ~1h ?
still oracle
probably
cinder hawk
@manic helm ponging you as well
manic helm
what
still oracle
remote otter
cinder hawk
cinder hawk
@manic helm I think im done with the new features, i even fixed the long lasting bug that made the cabinet kill you from afar
i only need you to give me the values you want for the stuns length and difficulty
manic helm
i only need you to give me the values you want for the stuns length and difficul...
ok good
il lget to that
cinder hawk
il lget to that
default value of 1 means the grenades stuns for 7.5sec
and the difficulty is for the zapgun, i believe every mob have 1
still oracle
i think
15 seconds is good
or x2
still oracle
and the difficulty is for the zapgun, ~~i believe every mob have 1~~
no
theres a lot above one and a lot below one
cinder hawk
oh okay
still oracle
the highest is the giant sapsucker with x1.6
cinder hawk
right now for testing purpose it was set to 0.1 which made it so the zapgun never changed the dirrection to pull to
mortal trench
default value of 1 means the grenades stuns for 7.5sec
1x equals 5 seconds, not 7.5 seconds
I think I've mentioned it here before
So if you want to set it to 15 seconds, you need to set it to a 3x
cinder hawk
1x equals 5 seconds, not 7.5 seconds
that is agains't whats written in the wiki
and also from my experience
i logged the duration of the stuns, it said 7.491656...
mortal trench
Wait, lemme check this in imperium
@cinder hawk Okay, so I checked it, and enemies with 1x multipliers do actually have a stun time of 7.5 seconds, but also the wiki I was using was wrong
Fuck me and my dumbass brain I guess
Sorry for spreading misinfo
cinder hawk
Sorry for spreading misinfo
no worries frend
thick heart
I rewrote the cabinet bestiary for the update so its clearer and other such things
still oracle
cinder hawk
he chillin
remote otter
the gang
manic helm
it would be the gang if the ghost girl was there in place of the snare flea
then they're all the guys who don't like being seen
split rampart
bracken also don' like being see
manic helm
true
remote otter
Spore lizard
split rampart
spore lizar is just a silly fella
cosmic ore
til you install diversity
small mantle
til you install diversity
The diverse variety got the lizard actin different fr š£ļø š¬ š¦ š
still oracle
why you call him stupid wtf
manic helm
becausse he is
still oracle
:(
remote otter
He is the smartest creature ive ever met dont say that!!!
still oracle
@cinder hawk @manic helm which render we like more
yes i made these
behind the scenes
remote otter
second is peak
manic helm
I like the first more
still oracle
<@177826384696049664> <@403222475418238987> which render we like more
oh also @gentle plover
my bad cuh
gentle plover
nice
cinder hawk
ayo wat
cosmic ore
i like the 2nd one
real falcon
Second one has better lighting
cosmic ore
first feels like its oily and slimy
if it got a whole rework where its got like vines and stuff i could see it being a slimy kinda creature
cosmic ore
but as it is right now with the polished cabinet and stuff i prefer the 2nd
gentle plover
<@177826384696049664> <@403222475418238987> which render we like more
I like the second one
still oracle
twilit scroll
behind the scenes
twilit scroll
"Go, do good."
(he did actually find someone afterwards)
still oracle
"Go, do good."
(he did actually find someone afterwards)
the lethalsponge golden skull š
twilit scroll
lolll
manic helm
"Go, do good."
(he did actually find someone afterwards)
peak cabinet usage
cinder hawk
"Go, do good."
(he did actually find someone afterwards)
fate accepted
manic helm
that's why the cabinet is your best friend
cosmic ore
"Go, do good."
(he did actually find someone afterwards)
depressing story scene š
stable stone
Is there issues with Cabinet in generic interiors?
remote otter
Nope
still oracle
is there issues with generic in cabinet interiors?
stable stone
remote otter
Nope
mint eagle
Is there issues with interiors in generic cabinet?
split rampart
there are issues in my cabinet
real falcon
is there interiors with generic in issue cabinets?
remote otter
Nope
ruby magnet
Interiors there with is in generic cabinets issue?
manic helm
Food broke
merry cobalt
Interior? Cabinet
still oracle
cabinar
twilit scroll
issues generic there in?
cinder hawk
1.10.0
- The Cabinet is now stunnable
- The Cabinet is now immune to damage when hidden
- Fixed the Cabinet killing while outside the hitbox
sand magnet
now the most important question
is... the cabinet stunnable during his enraged chase
cinder hawk
that's the goal yes
sand magnet
so there's a counter now 
still oracle
so there's a counter now <:yoiled:1181287712943259738>
shovel
manic helm
so there's a counter now <:yoiled:1181287712943259738>
there has always been a counter
don't freaking look at it
especially if you're not the one who pissed it off it will spare you
SPEAKING OF THAT
um
@cinder hawk
cinder hawk
wah ?
manic helm
did you add the new bestiary entry. .. .
cinder hawk
fffffffffffffffffffffffffff
still oracle
wtf i like the bestiary though
manic helm
wtf i like the bestiary though
nobody knew you could just NOT STARE AT IT MURDERING YOUR FRIENDS to be spared
still oracle
nobody knew you could just NOT STARE AT IT MURDERING YOUR FRIENDS to be spared
adding bestiary text isnt going to help this much
because a lot of people just dont read the bestiary entries of anything
i bet some people dont even know the bestiary exists
because lethal company "doesnt provide enough information"
it does btw
this is a completely false statement
people just dont fucking care to actually read shit
the clipboard tells you a lot
and then the terminal tells you more
its genuinely not hard to learn how the game works, its just people dont fucking read
legitimately i think the bigger problem is how fast the cabinet begins aggro by default
its 2 seconds
for one, thats really aggressive
but more importantly, if it was like, 8, then players can more easily pick up that staring at its true form is what aggros it
because it starts convulsing and growling
still oracle
the longer it does it, the more time players get to process thats what aggros it
but also, it growls louder if it takes longer
yet another tell for the cause
manic helm
its genuinely not hard to learn how the game works, *its just people dont fuckin...
and that
is not my problem to fix
manic helm
for one, thats really aggressive
but more importantly, if it was like, 8, then p...
this will be addressed
severe iris
# 1.10.0
- The Cabinet is now stunnable
- The Cabinet is now immune to damage wh...
I would just replace the stun with making the "dont look at it" part more obvious
mint eagle
this is a completely false statement
It is not completely false.
LC does provide adequate information to help new players, but that does not mean it could still be better about communication. The importance of the clipboard or terminal is not made apparent at all, and in game design needing less reading to understand the mechanics is considered good practice (see the FNaF fangames that make you read a college thesis before each night).
Making things more apparent to players is not even that hard.:
- The ship loudspeaker could say āconsult the trailing clipboard for more informationā in the opening monologue for a new save
- Terminal defaults to the command list page rather than its current home screen when you open it so you see the available commands
- When you can an enemy for the first time, the ācreature data sent to terminalā message could also mention the bestiary
Lethal Company in general is good about making the game intuitive enough for you to get by without reading up, but like everything there is always room for improvement.
severe iris
Idk man, the instruction manual was like one of the first things I found
Literally when I joined my first ever lobby, shortly after we landed I was already reading it
still oracle
It is not completely false.
LC does provide adequate information to help new pl...
- it literally does do that
- the home screen clearly says to type "help"
- why would it need to do that if the terminal clearly displays the bestiary exists after typing "help"
it is genuinely just a personal problem that unfortunately a lot of people have when they pick up this game
im not expecting high IQ geniuses to play
but im also not expecting the game to flash giant red arrows so i know what to do
the game provides enough info for a player to learn how to play
its just a lot of people who buy it dont ever see that info
molten flint
nutcracker bestiary cof
still oracle
yes
the nutcracker bestiary is the only in game text thats fucked
severe iris
It is not completely false.
LC does provide adequate information to help new pl...
The game's information is all diagetic. It is very clear about it, though. You literally either just read the first few sentences on the terminal or use the only interactable item that always spawns on the ship
mint eagle
I just think that if it is so widespread then it stops being a user issue after a while. Zeekerss added those new player pop-ups so clearly he had this issue in mind
mint eagle
1. it literally does do that
2. the home screen clearly says to type "help"
3. w...
- Ah my bad
- Why does the Home Screen need to exist at all though?
- Because it is redundancy for the sake of the player. The game already has examples of this for other things
split rampart
i would assume the home screen is both a way to reduce information overload, and to just be a welcoming way to transition into the UI
still oracle
its also immersive because a real life terminal computer would behave this way when its turned on initially
the employees always turn it off
mint eagle
I donāt buy the information overload part when you have a 5 page clipboard
still oracle
its not overloading though
mint eagle
Surely players can handle a list of like 4 commands
still oracle
the hardest part about it is looking to the top right to see you have to press Z
and then moving your camera with the model
split rampart
I donāt buy the information overload part when you have a 5 page clipboard
there's a reason most people didnt read the clipboard
mint eagle
Well thatās why Iām saying information should be conveyed through other means too
split rampart
the hardest part about it is looking to the top right to see you have to press Z...
it does tell you how to inspect and flip pages when you pick it up for the first time in the yellow popup tip
still oracle
even then its really not a ton of text
mint eagle
Itās more about the language than the volume to me. I get the company is cryptic and all, but youād think they would provide more precise instructions to employees. If you like immersion it would be realistic to have more precise instructions
You look at irl employee handbooks and they are pretty cut and dry besides legal stuff
split rampart
i do like how they sometimes give you either incorrect information or misleading non-information, that was a pretty charming part of the early experience to me and added onto the feeling of "this company is so dogshit everything they provide to us sucks"
mint eagle
Well it comes at the expense of the new player experience arguably. If you like getting trolled then fair enough, but I have a feeling a lot of us here do not
I bet the cryptic/wrong instructions were part of why hoaxes were so rampant in the gameās first year
split rampart
yesss
mint eagle
Whether hoaxes are fun or frustrating is up to you
split rampart
in my opinion that was one of the coolest things about the game
still oracle
i only have a problem with the nutcracker bestiary of all text in game
split rampart
i hadn't experienced playground rumors for games like that since... actual playground rumors
still oracle
every other bestiary describes at least a basic idea of how to survive monsters with no equipment
mint eagle
I personally liked it too
mint eagle
i only have a problem with the nutcracker bestiary of all text in game
Idk why he removed the āwatchful eyeā part, it was kinda important
split rampart
it was removed in v50 i think
mint eagle
The one bad change of v50
real falcon
Is there any known counter to the cabinet? It'd be cool if you wrote it down somewhere in game
or added some visual/audible cue of whats triggering it
remote otter
I almost replied to this
severe iris
or added some visual/audible cue of whats triggering it
You uhh... Dont look at it...
I would have thought that would be obvious after the first encounter
Okay well you didnt actually reply to anything, i take no whooshes for that
remote otter
You uhh... Dont look at it...
I would have thought that would be obvious after ...
Omg im glad im not the only one who fell for the ragebait heheh
I was able to stop myself before sending the message xD
severe iris
Two whole ass days after the discussion ended
severe iris
But anyway, the clipboard doesn't even have that much actual text. Parts of it are purely flavor text, and a lot can be inferred just from playing the game.
And that's besides the fact it's perfectly accurate to the game's theme
Since you start in orbit, you also have plenty of time to learn the controls in peace
still oracle
what if i dont know how to buy the game in the first place
twilit scroll
But anyway, the clipboard doesn't even have that much actual text. Parts of it a...
shoutout to the "starter pack" purchase
also, interesting that red means biological matter
might just be inconsistent since traps have it
severe iris
Probably just an inconsistency yeah
severe iris
clipboard was likely written before traps were added so yeah
twilit scroll
But anyway, the clipboard doesn't even have that much actual text. Parts of it a...
also i like how it says "safer and closer moons" are cheaper when most moons that are "cheap" mostly only fit embrion
also intriguing since the ship goes to different moons and therefore moves further away
so shouldnt that make nearby planets cheaper and previously free moons expensive?
still oracle
might just be inconsistent since traps have it
its not referring to scannodes
its referring to the center monitor pips
which is funny because
its unupdated to mention scrap is pink now
scrap was never green as most people thought
twilit scroll
which is funny because
its unupdated to mention scrap is pink now
scrap was neve...
oooh lol
split rampart
its referring to the center monitor pips
Huh, that's interesting. i always thought it was intentionally incorrect info about the scanner
still oracle
i think when zeekerss wrote it he got a little sprazy in his mouth and his brain was a little wacky zany
lyric sonnet
idk if this is something on my end but the cabinet lacks the fuck out of the game when they spit me out
im not sure if this is because of imperium but it happens
also coo mod
i wish Spiner had the same level of quality as this
harsh tendon
idk if this is something on my end but the cabinet lacks the fuck out of the gam...
Make sure you have decals turned off in the config under "Optimization"
dunno why it's even on by default tbh
cinder hawk
@harsh tendon @lyric sonnet those are the default value because it didnt cause any lag under most circonstances
but i do remember it had lag issue with lethal quantity
do you guys tried to see if it still cause lags when having not other mod on (beside dependencies ofc) ?
harsh tendon
I've not tested it yet, no
lyric sonnet
but i do remember it had lag issue with lethal quantity
why lethal quantities specifically
cinder hawk
why lethal quantities specifically
no idea
mint eagle
I mean LQ is dead as of v73 so not that big of a deal
lyric sonnet
I mean LQ is dead as of v73 so not that big of a deal
I mean it still works
If it works it works
remote otter
perople who still use it say lots of things
that some things are broken, others that everything works
idk, i had my issues with it back in v69
lyric sonnet
im honestly praying that LQ doesn't break
i use tha shi to re-rank kast and artifice to P and i do not want to learn centralconfig
still oracle
i use tha shi to re-rank kast and artifice to P and i do not want to learn centr...
- its literally easier to do it on central
- lunarconfig (also easier)
lyric sonnet
1. its literally easier to do it on central
2. lunarconfig (also easier)
how is this easy
still oracle
that is
not where moons are
its easier because you dont have to use an entire different website to generate the files youd then need to transfer into your mod profile
that was always the thing about LQ that threw it off for me
lyric sonnet
its easier because you dont have to use an entire different website to generate ...
i feel like centralconfig and lunar not needing a different website is more convient than easy
still oracle
isnt something thats convenient in this context easier
like especially if youre doing active heavy changes to what spawns on each moon
if its not just how you want it
you gotta go back to the website
generate entire new files
then import those new files
and even then it may not be right still for you
lyric sonnet
then import those new files
i kinda see the point but like
i feel like LQ is less convient but easier to use due to the website providing more basic visuals so it isn't confusing
but the others are quicker to get to but harder to understand
remote otter
generate entire new files
that doesnt really make lots of sense tbh, its just one more step, and thats just if you added smth big, since LQ saves your last file in the website so its not that far off from using mod manager to config
if having to open a folder once being considered unconvenient then having to open the config files should also be unconvenient
in that case just doing stuff inside of lethal without having to restart it every time you make a significant chage would be the best option, which it isnt possible so idk
dont really see the issue
green sky
cinder hawk
happy to see it use ladders
peak apex
Can't believe you died smh /j
peak apex
I didn't know it could Climb Ladders honestly cus not many interiors have them lol
green sky
Lunxara you should stream FranticFrenzy frfr :3 /j
green sky
I have no idea what that is
My public thunderstore modpack :3
peak apex
Ahhhh yeah I don't really keep up with mod packs
I so rarely update mine nowadays I could prolly make it public sometime lol
green sky
Damn
green sky
I so rarely update mine nowadays I could prolly make it public sometime lol
I am
very VERY curious about your pack
celest wyvern
Hes was a bit angy
split rampart
mystery boxes
still oracle
cabinet infestation goes hard
mint eagle
That passive Maneater mod but for Cabinet
celest wyvern
The idea i can think of how ever needs a nav mesh for the ship while in space is a part entity part ship upgrade tho at the same time what would it be used for xD
manic helm
INFINITE CABINETS
manic helm
v80
molten flint
any problems?
teal pumice
any problems?
afaik all enemy mod have issues on v80
related to the updated PlayerControllerB
manic helm
oh no
green sky
I got a lucky infestation on EXP
wait what the shit??
HOW DO YOU MAKE CUSTOM INFESTATIONS????
celest wyvern
HOW DO YOU MAKE CUSTOM INFESTATIONS????
green sky
Oh my god
This is peak
Oh shit 4 months ago
oh no
Does anyone know if it still works for v80!?
PLEASE SPEED I NEEDD THIIIIIS
celest wyvern
xD
teal pumice
Does anyone know if it still works for v80!?
nop,e it doesn't work :,]
teal pumice
Okay wheres this guyās thread
remote otter
cabinet
manic helm
cabinet may or may not be alive
manic helm
thats not up to me
sand magnet
fooxynn help us
cinder hawk
mint eagle
Yesssssssss
cinder hawk
ill look at it tomorow
but i forgor what i am supposed to do when the game update
like how to fix my project lol
real falcon
@spring sail add cabinet to DawnLib before Fooxynn updates the mod
Then uhh
Stone cheese or something
With rocks I mean, donāt give him drugs
remote otter
do both
spring sail
cinder hawk
<@514120543046336516> add cabinet to DawnLib before Fooxynn updates the mod
what is for ?
fervent oxide
ill look at it tomorow
take your time but nice to know its being worked on
cinder hawk
1.11.0
- Updated for V80
-# kinda
i just recompiled and its seems to work, lemme know if you find something wrong
small mantle
# 1.11.0
- Updated for V80
small mantle
So many cabinet varieties
Uncloseted cabinet varietyā¢
crimson yew
thank you for updating this mod in a very wesley moons time in my group's life, added this into the modpack halfway through without them knowing (yet). They dont even know this mod exists. Slid that in there like herobrine
cinder hawk
thank you for updating this mod in a very wesley moons time in my group's life, ...
hehe
neat elk
Why does the cabinet just like instantly chase all my friends
everytime we've found it all it does is just instantly chase us
manic helm
what do you mean by instantly chase
cinder hawk
Why does the cabinet just like instantly chase all my friends
what version you are playing on ?
neat elk
what version you are playing on ?
It was like about a week before v80
cinder hawk
It was like about a week before v80
thats odd... you sure none of your friend were watching it while it was not hidden ?
neat elk
Nah I was spectating them they were in the grand armory interior just walking around then the cabinet just came out from behind them and started running at him
cinder hawk
oh the grand armory...
cinder hawk
Nah I was spectating them they were in the grand armory interior just walking ar...
that might be the interior fault then, since this one is ultra open, you might be able to look at it without knowing
i dont remember if i added a range limit, looks like not
neat elk
that might be the interior fault then, since this one is ultra open, you might b...
Maybe, thanks for the help anyways. Mod seems really cool!
cinder hawk
Maybe, thanks for the help anyways. Mod seems really cool!
i might look at this next time
its fixable
echo ravine
hello :P
i just wanted to say that me and my friends played your mod blind and it was really fun. It fit into the game really well and even gave me some ideas for my own creature. I'm also wondering if you guys plan on making any other creature mods like this or lc mods in general
cinder hawk
i just wanted to say that me and my friends played your mod blind and it was rea...
yippeee
manic helm
i just wanted to say that me and my friends played your mod blind and it was rea...
Well there's a scrap mod being worked on that's gonna have a lot of my and jacks ideas
And we also have a whole doc of creature ideas that I might post soon but I think fooxynn will run away screaming immediately upon seeing it
cinder hawk
ownos
echo ravine
Well there's a scrap mod being worked on that's gonna have a lot of my and jacks...
Hmmmmmm how interesting
Seeing how this mod came to be really has just felt āit canāt be that easyā
manic helm
it can't
i got extremely lucky
and as you could see no one gave a rat's ass about the heartstopper deer long enough for it to straight up become obsolete
echo ravine
Mhm
I suppose you and your group are just gonna make stuff till you dont feel like makin stuff now?
I canāt wait to see :P
manic helm
there's not really a group it's just me and jack making shit up and whoever decides they want to do unpaid labor for us
and if i had a nickel every time that happened i'd have two nickels
echo ravine
What was the other one
manic helm
scrap mod
echo ravine
Ohh right I thought you were talking about already released
Anyways stealing the luck straight out of your soul
echo ravine
Oh sweet yeah this is cool
Iāve been thinking about 4-handed scrap where there would have to be two players to move it efficiently. Wouldnāt be physics based though.
Iāll probably draw it at some point
green sky
wasnāt that
technically a thing before?
It was like
XLScrap or some shit
I forgot
echo ravine
I have never seen that mod
manic helm
XLScrap or some shit
thats not us
green sky
hold on lemme see if I can find it
echo ravine
I played nonstop back in like,,,,,,,
manic helm
and cargo does not work like XL scrap
it was specifically designed to be distinct from XL scrap in case the two projects get to coexist
echo ravine
Whenever the kidnapper fox first got removed
echo ravine
Huh neat
green sky
was pretty neat honestly
manic helm
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/necrowing/XL_Scrap/
yeah it doesn't work anymore there's a $100 bounty to fix it
Nobody has
green sky
yeah it doesn't work anymore there's a $100 bounty to fix it
Nobody has
Well I mean
I kinda figured
echo ravine
yeah it doesn't work anymore there's a $100 bounty to fix it
Nobody has
Is there actually lmao
manic helm
yes
green sky
echo ravine
Quick we all need to learn unity scripting and split the profit
green sky
TRUE HAHAHAHA-
manic helm
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/necrowing/XL_Scrap/
ocne again though
that's not my doing
and cargo is actually supposed to work differently from XL scrap you don't pick it up you push it like the car
and it's not even the main focus of the scrap mod the initial release is not gonna have any cargo objects
green sky
ocne again though
that's not my doing
and cargo is actually supposed to work dif...
Oooooooo
pushing scrap ey? thats cool!
echo ravine
How does it get through the door?
green sky
It gets through somehow
manic helm
How does it get through the door?
it's outside scrap
echo ravine
Oh
green sky
it's outside scrap
Oh shit
echo ravine
Iām so smart
green sky
thats new
manic helm
it's all very large items
green sky
Yeah that is smart
manic helm
and you'd know there's other things
echo ravine
I canāt read
manic helm
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TTkhtbRuZHErgz2BwufZOAR3Lqu4FGz1N9ohLeV3lnM/edit?usp=sharing
READ OUR 112 ITEMS OF DOOM
green sky
JUST hit me
manic helm
112!!! !
green sky
Youāre the Cabinet guy
manic helm
yeah
green sky
this is fucking peak
manic helm
i'm the Cabinet Guy
green sky
Amazing job with the Cabinet btw
echo ravine
John Cabinet
green sky
very well designed and very creative genuinely
manic helm
thank you i did literally none of it
green sky
broooooo-
echo ravine
Yeah lmao
green sky
manic helm
i came up with the appearance and behavior but at the time i wasnt even confident enough to draw what i want it to look like on my own
echo ravine
Actually can I share my creature idea here, donāt wanna impose
manic helm
uhh ig
echo ravine
If itās weird timing and placement I can hold off
Lemme look at the doc youāve intrigued me
echo ravine
CHEMICAL SPRAY
pleaaase tell me it has better range or something
Other than just capacity
manic helm
that could probably happen yeah
echo ravine
If it does happen you will be my savior
manic helm
if you've got anything more to say you should probasbly move to the scrap expansion thread
echo ravine
I was gonna suggest a store mod to mod ideas that added a lighter so you could Light That Shit A Flame
echo ravine
if you've got anything more to say you should probasbly move to the scrap expans...
Iāll let you know if I come up with anything
crimson yew
spectating my friends with cabinet has made me realize that its literally like if an EXTREMELY addressable elephant was consistently following you so your team swear to never address it and its really really funny to me now thinking of it like that
neat elk
I might be stupid but like is the Cabinet's entire thing just || if you open it you get slimed out?||
honestly that feels like a pretty cool monster design within itself but I cant help but feel like im missing something
real falcon
honestly that feels like a pretty cool monster design within itself but I cant h...
There is something else which happens most of the time you encounter it, you mightve just gotten unlucky. I put it in spoilers which I dont recommend checking if you want to experience it for yourself 
||It stands up and follows behind you. Then sits back down as a cabinet once next to you. You can put scrap on top of it and itll follow you around carrying your scrap, but if you look at it for too long while its standing then itll become aggressive. Sometimes it just doesnt follow you for some reason?||
neat elk
There *is* something else which happens most of the time you encounter it, you m...
Yeah lol when me and my friends find it for sum reason it likes to ||chill near the entrance, which is honestly cool within itself. The scrap thing is cool though, I'm def telling my friends its friendly XD ||
manic helm
Yeah lol when me and my friends find it for sum reason it likes to ||chill near ...
@cinder hawk we should lowkey remove it getting angrier when you attempt to open it
all it does is make people die without finding out what the cabinet does
if they could open it to learn it's a creature and then be unable to do anything to it they'd be more likely to try to keep an eye on it before leaving it alone and actually figure out the not looking at it gimmick
cinder hawk
<@177826384696049664> we should lowkey remove it getting angrier when you attemp...
meh... i like it tho :c
manic helm
I might be stupid but like is the Cabinet's entire thing just || if you open it ...
but DO YOU SEE THIS
It is a detriment to the monster's mechanics
manic helm
meh... i like it tho :c
when you do that you should also chagne the anger meter and stun multiplier if you haven't alredy
jack was supposed to give you some values did he do that?
cinder hawk
oh yeah, he did for the stun multiplier
crimson yew
all it does is make people die without finding out what the cabinet does
If anything this mechanic enhanced the experience for several groups im in, one group was super curious about it, tried opening it, looked at each other and started laughing, left the room and cabinet mechanica proceeded as usual. Another group im in helped realize you could place items on it by how the open trick suggested it was functional in some way
Plus its a real neat part of it, to mess with friends going like ooooh we're gonna open it haha
Almost like in early lethal company days in which people play "jester chicken" and wait by the main entrance andleave as late as they could before it got them
What happened in the instance with the person being confused in the cabinet seems to just be an offshoot occurrence of the cabinet not following the player after having encountered it, just sorta bugged out there ig?
Plus it helps communicate that if you dont keep messing with it then its basically chill, thats the whole gameplay with the cabinet
cinder hawk
@manic helm so... i have to make it being stun for longer, i have to "change the anger meter" do you mean make it take longer to become angry when looked at by default ?
and... do i really have to remove the interact feature ? :c
crimson yew
maybe instead of completely removing it the option to have it enabled could be a config?
manic helm
<@403222475418238987> so... i have to make it being stun for longer, i have to "...
yeah
manic helm
and... do i really have to remove the interact feature ? :c
only the part where it gets angry
manic helm
how much is it right now
cinder hawk
how much is it right now
1.5sec
cinder hawk
oof
crimson yew
oh honestly these are fine changes i think these are fine
cinder hawk
1.12.0
Some values have been changed in the config file, you may want to regenerate it.
- Increased the stun duration
- Increased the time you can look at the Cabinet before it gets angry
- Removed the feature where the Cabinet would eventually get angry after trying to open it
slender halo
It is a detriment to the monster's mechanics
It really isn't
The entity growls every time you attempt to open it
If you piss it off from that, that's entirely your fault
The conveys to the player completely well to not attempt that
Once you leave it alone, then you'll notice them beginning to follow you
This feels like a half-baked opinion that sapped some of the charm out of the entity
This is a horror/comedy game, the point of the entities upon first encounter is to figure out their gimmick without being abundantly clear (For the most part)
Which is why so many funny moments are made from mistakes :v
slender halo
If you piss it off from that, that's entirely your fault
I also feel like the growling also makes it more clear that the entity doesn't like their true form looked at
The cabinet is now just an inverse coil-head with a timer
crimson yew
I hope i dont come off as pestering about this or anything since I said it earlier too, but I wish it were at least an option to have it or not. Its quirky and its a cool feature
slender halo
I might be stupid but like is the Cabinet's entire thing just || if you open it ...
And this removal was born from someone going to the entity's thread and talking about it, rather than experimenting with them like how you do with new vanilla entities
slender halo
I hope i dont come off as pestering about this or anything since I said it earli...
Yes, this would've been much better
slender halo
And this removal was born from someone going to the entity's thread and talking ...
I'm sorry if I sound so pissy but 1. I just got done dealing with severe family issues a moment ago, and 2. the cabinet is an entity I adore a lot, and to see its worldbuilding neutered like this is disappointing
crimson yew
Agreed, cabinet is probably my favorite modded enemy at the moment. Love playing around it
wise ginkgo
I also think the Cabinet getting annoyed from trying to open it made a lot of sense. At least having a config option to re-enable this behavior will be appreciated
cinder hawk
yes ! bring back the Cabinet soul !
-# oh wait
sand magnet
neat elk
And this removal was born from someone going to the entity's thread and talking ...
mb mbb I was js tryna see if the Cabinet act did more cuz its still modded but yeah I should've experimented more u right
severe iris
Yeah and I thought screaming at baboons made them back off. Just because a player hasn't interacted with it doesn't mean it's a bad design choice.
If anything it reinforces the idea that it wants to be hidden.
It also makes a very clearly creature-like sound when you try to open it, so it's not even a question of the player not knowing what it is
With that said... I think v80 might have broken something, because I've encountered cabinet a few times in modpacks and he kinda just... Hasn't done anything?
But yeah no, I don't agree with those changes much at all
At 4 seconds of anger timer I'd be shocked to ever actually trigger the thing
And removing the opening anger is really boring too. It could have been reworked slightly if it was that big of an issue
Did we add the fear effect when players witness it standing? I reckon that would solve a lot of problems
I would say re-enable the door pulling mechanic, and put the anger Meter back at 1.5 seconds, BUT add the fear effect AND a config for it instead
manic helm
I mean
Is the anger really that big of a deal
You can still open it and it will do the same thing it just will never kill you
If anything that's closer to the baboon hawks
Screaming at them doesn't matter
Opening the cabinet doesn't matter
But it sounds angry
I'm pretty sure the fear effect does exist
At least when it goes murder mode
The reason I've decided to remove it getting mad from being opened is because this is not the first time I see someone thinking "yeah you don't open it that's all it does"
And one of those was a fricking mod showcase video bro why didn't they read the MOD DESCRIPTION
When people repeatedly don't get the monster and just give up on more experimenting I feel inclined to make it easier to figure out what the monster does
It also adds to the misconception that the cabinet is meant to be a mimic
It is not
It's not hiding it has a mechanic to make sure you've seen it before starting to follow you
I think it might actually be broken because this isn't the first time we hear about the cabinet just deciding not to follow people
manic helm
The cabinet is now just an inverse coil-head with a timer
You know it has a lot more unique behavior than that
cinder hawk
owno please dont be broken because of v80 cibinet pluuuise
slender halo
You know it has a lot more unique behavior than that
It still takes away a lot :v
cinder hawk
soooo... what do i do ?
Do i put it back ? or only with a config parameter defaulted to false ?
slender halo
Iād say put it back as a config option to keep best of both worlds, but the final decision is up to Vector V
teal pumice
In my opinion, as long as the extra mechanic isn't causing major problems that require extensive work to fix, I feel it adds that little extra charm to the monster.
severe iris
The reason I've decided to remove it getting mad from being opened is because th...
Just because someone made a video on it that ignored literally everything else doesn't mean we gotta change it.
How many times have you seen people encounter coilhead for the first time and instantly turn to run, dying because of it?
I myself thought you had to keep looking at the bracken to ward it off the first time I played the game, and I died because of it.
There's even that one clip of Markiplier thinking a spore lizard was a thumper and panicking.
Experimentation and trial and error is a critical part of this game.
If a player sees the cabinet, touches the doors, and concludes that's all there is to it, they're setting themselves up for getting jumped later when they turn around and see it sneaking up.
manic helm
Just because someone made a video on it that ignored literally everything else d...
i mean
that still can happen
it just won't kill you in an annoying way
slender halo
it just won't kill you in an annoying way
Maneaters aren't any better
Look at all of the times they've been brought outside and wiped the entire crew
It's an annoying death, yes, but it's funny the first time, and you learn not to do that
manic helm
ok that's actually a good point
slender halo
Same case here