Skelaah's Wild Moons

[short river]

Are we talking about this?

[sonic perch]

Yup

Wait hol on

Is it still happening?

[short river]

It happened after i left the moon, playing it was completely fine.

I saw the console spam i believe right before the game is saving in orbit.

[sonic perch]

Which version of Bilge / WildMoons are you on right now?

Becuase the latest ones don't have the script on them, if so this means I screwed something in LLL rather than in the code

[short river]

v2.3.2 it seems.

So it should be the latest i think?

[sonic perch]

Yup it is

Well I'll have a look later

I have college in 5 hours so gotta go to sleep

[short river]

Alright! Have a nice rest!

[sonic perch]

I have no idea what to do at this point

The only plausible thing to do at this point is to deprecate Bilge for the time being

The map works fine when playing solo but the moment someone joins its the same green fog screen

[steady surge]

wait what? i thought it was working fine but without tides

[sonic perch]

okay I have

zero fucking idea what's happening anymore

[steady surge]

????

[sonic perch]

so what happens is, whenever someone joins the lobby they get the black screen with the green tzp-like fog effect

and I don't get which part of my moon causes that

[steady surge]

ohoh

Thats from the moonpack as well as bilge ? or bilge alone ?

[sonic perch]

I tested with both a standalone and the whole moonpack

Idk I posted a version without the script

Let's hope nothing breaks

[steady surge]

oh damn

Ill stay on kanie and acheron for the time being then

[sonic perch]

I mean Bilge should still be playable, if you don't get stuck in the lobby then that means it's playable

[honest fern]

@sonic perch We had no issues anywhere else so the issue was probably with Kanie

[honest fern]

Okay those warnings definitely have to do with Mel's ship

Cus they also happened on Adamance

[honest fern]

According to DiFFoZ they are also harmless

Idk why Kanie breaks killing masked, there's no errors

😦

[sonic perch]

I'll just disable them spawning naturally then, at least for now

[honest fern]

I would guess it also relates to whatever makes some of the trees not breakable

[sonic perch]

That one actually baffles me, I triple checked pretty much every single goddamn tree after last night and none of them had the missing breakable script

[honest fern]

I'm not sure what was going on, I'll send the client logs though

Weird

Maybe this has to do with it?

See a few interesting errors

[21:45:03.8627908] [Error : Unity Log] "ResetPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.

SyncShipUnlockables went off a few times

Idk what caused the HudManager error though

SyncShipUnlockables and ResetPath

appear in both logs

HudManager one only happened in Skitts'

[sonic perch]

I really don't know what could be the issue, at least looking at them atm

[honest fern]

My guess is whatever caused the ResetPath error is why the mimic couldn't register being attacked

Suit errors might be cus I have Furniture Lock set to unlock the vanilla suits

[sonic perch]

Did you change the modpack since the last stream? I'd like to play with some of the mods you use to test some stuff out

[honest fern]

You should be able to use the manual code still

I've been working on changes for the Synced one

lol

[sonic perch]

Then I'll do so once I come back home, just finished an exam 😅

[honest fern]

Ooh nice

[sonic perch]

And you just reminded me to install Gale

[honest fern]

lol

[sonic saffron]

what's the issue with Kanie??

[pastel parrot]

unbreakable trees and broken masked ig?

[sonic saffron]

ah k

[sonic perch]

@honest fern do you mind sending me the manual code again? I can't see the pinned comment on your vod

[honest fern]

Let me see if I can find it

[honest fern]

01975bbe-db40-4977-35a2-da63590cad05

[sonic perch]

okay I removed every tree that was being unbreakable for some reason, at least all the ones that I encountered

about the masked thing I have zero idea what could be the cause, I removed them from Kanie just in case

[bronze frigate]

So I've been testing out 47-Chronos, and am i crazy or do the "Time anomolies" thing just not happen? I've been watching the clock for a while now and havent seen any huge jumps at all like i expected. Are they just small leaps forward or backwards or are they like, 1-2 hours? If its the ladder then idk what the problem is here

[sonic perch]

Depends on the time of day and partially on luck. You got 2 types of anomalies, weak and strong ones. The strong ones only appear between 8am and 1pm and they skip the time up to 2,5h forwards or backwards, but they also have a bigger cooldown, meaning that you can not get them at all if they don't happen beforw 1pm. The weaker anomalies skip the time for about 30-45 minutes both ways, but have a smaller cooldown as well. The anomalies despawn at 9pm altogether
I did that mainly because it was kind of bullshit whenever you got an anomaly at 9pm and it would skip the time to 11:45pm and now you can't get back to the ship in time

[bronze frigate]

I guess im really unlucky then lol because from my testing i was getting like 0 anomalies, Itd be great if there was a config to change the cooldown of it ngl

[sonic perch]

Here's how it should look technically

Actually would you mind sending me an output log if you play on Chronos next time?

[bronze frigate]

Sure, but also do the time anomolies only work when your inside the facility? Because I was just flying around moons with imperium to see if i wanted them in the pack or not, but wasnt actually going inside. If yes then thats probably why i diddnt see the anomaly lol

[sonic perch]

They should work inside and outside

[proven torrent]

Love your moons! I wanted to mention that I noticed on Acheron things such as bear traps & AC units from coderebirth would spawn floating off of the ground

[sonic perch]

Thanks! As for the acheron floating thing, my theory is this might be a terrain tag issue, since the terrain is tagged as either rock or concrete and that might screw up some placements

[last ore]

fair, I don't see much terrain other than rock

[sonic perch]

ffs Kiszony

[last ore]

what

[proven torrent]

Oh interesting!

[pastel parrot]

maybe the nodes are higher up than they should be? or is that not how they work

[sonic perch]

pretty sure if that happened then the enemies would also spawn higher up

[pastel parrot]

oh prolly

[steady surge]

is the navmesh a bit higher then?

[sonic perch]

I will have a look but pretty sure its where its supposed to be

[honest fern]

@sonic perch Likely the same issue we had with Kanie before, they're invincible on some moons if the ship doors are closed for some reason

[sonic perch]

I searched for any stuff related to ship in the ship triggers and found only this so far, I'll keep searching but haven't seen much yet

[sonic perch]

UPDATE 2.4.0

- Added a new early-game moon: ||615-Noctis|| as an early access (not 100% finished in terms of gameplay and obviously optimization)
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

[stuck coral]

any pictures?

[sonic perch]

no

I'll update the readmes and send some stuff tomorrow

I won't have time today I thinl

as for actual images, I only got this one

[sonic saffron]

wait is this a snow moon?

[sonic perch]

I tried to not make it a snow moon but the ground is suspiciously grey

[sonic saffron]

I use chamelon so idk what to set the mansion window and mineshaft cave type

seems very interesting

[sonic perch]

I mean I guess you can set it as snowy

If it fits then why not

[sonic saffron]

I'll play around and decide

[mossy lark]

this is a very nice concept. my only recommendation is to lower the cooldown on the flash. not a ton; just enough so you're not in the dark for too long. especially since dogs can spawn at the start of the day on a C- moon

[sonic perch]

I plan on making several improvements to the map like:

• make the flash have a manual interaction
• change the spawn curves because currently they are really fking broken
• maybe have a different type of flashes once the apparatus is pulled...? (unsure on this one)
• maybe set a different route price?

[mossy lark]

hmmmmk

[sonic perch]

If some of these changes are not out until tomorrow then it will stay like this until next week (I'll be away from home starting tomorrow)

[hasty wagon]

might replace espira in my mod pack with noctis, its a lot more vanilla matching and fits the same vibes without feeling too cheesy

[sonic saffron]

Overall I say it's a neat moon and I imagine Biodiversity's like coilcrab spawning here maybe

[hasty wagon]

for one, the map is very small, so i dont really mind the light
and as far as i could tell the outside power is 4

so really id say its fine balancing wise how it is

[pastel parrot]

salt or gravel probably

[sonic saffron]

Seems very lickable

the moon

[pastel parrot]

yummers...

[sonic saffron]

OH also I feel coilcrab fits, feeling and design wise.

[pastel parrot]

do it got stormy

[hasty wagon]

gravel caves would fit best imo

[sonic saffron]

yea

like set the same weight as kanie's

for stormy and normal

Also not sure if it's intentional but it works-

I can hear the thing go off inside the interior

[pastel parrot]

probably just the sound range being way too high, if it sounds nice that's good though

[sonic saffron]

yea like isn't too loud

just normal throughout the moon

[sonic perch]

Not sure about weathers still

For now it only has the default one

[pastel parrot]

eclipsed and clear only

peak...

curse you @summer dagger

[sonic perch]

lore-wise the moon ||doesn't have its sun / star to orbit, that's why it's perpetually dark||

so not sure if eclipse would work

[hasty wagon]

i think rainy would actually be pretty effective here

[sonic perch]

Oh god walking into a mud on this map

[hasty wagon]

also me when i realize if i were to replace espira for noctis, id lose the ouija board and ectoplasm sample

[sonic perch]

Espira is pretty popular and for a good reason, it looks gorgeous

Nothing will top The Iris for me tho

For a while I actually wanted to make that map by myself but DemonMae's done a better job than I ever would

[hasty wagon]

nah dont say that

you are making good content

i wouldnt consider the replacement otherwise

[sonic perch]

I've definitely learnt a lot since I started, that's for sure

Still, thanks. I want to make more ambitious stuff and it's really nice to know that people enjoy stuff that I make

[honest fern]

Even if you can't fix the problem with Kanie masked should be safe to put back on there again btw, just make a note to not close the ship doors or smth if you plan to box them lol

DemonMae couldn't figure out why Pareidolia is weird either

It's not really an issue I would consider major now that we figured out what it is

[sonic perch]

I kinda want to test if ticking out this box solves the issue but I don't want to break the entire moonpack and be unable to change it for an entire week

[honest fern]

Yeah fair lol

Maybe @candid skiff could potentially test that as well since their moon definitely has the triggers set up properly as far as I could tell

I looked with Imperium and the only difference compared to Experimentation was the trigger was a bit smaller and slightly further back but the Trigger exists so that shouldn't matter

So it has to be some flag that needs changed or something

[sonic perch]

Was it just experimentation? Do the other vanilla moons have the same issue or did you just check exp?

[honest fern]

On Experimentation the bug doesn't happen

It's just Kanie and Pareidolia I had it on

and it could happen on other custom moons too probably I just haven't tested them all

I just went to find what caused it after having it on Pareidolia cus I was curious lol

[sonic perch]

Does Pareidolia have a customly tagged ground around the ship? Kanie have a massive concrete walkway and that could mess something up, it did in the past

[honest fern]

I'm not sure

I don't think it does

[sonic perch]

I think I remember Makron having a similar platform to Kanie, just smaller

Maybe try to reproduce the issue on Makron...?

[honest fern]

At this point we just know it's a trigger thing and that it means masked are for some reason being registered as not inside of the ship

Cus on Vanilla moons it's fine

[sonic perch]

Which area of the ship is this again? The main door, right?

[honest fern]

yeah

This one to be precise

It only appears in the ship when landed on a moon

That's supposed to determine when you and enemies are inside the ship or not but for some reason on some custom moons it seems to not detect masked and likely other enemies as well as inside the ship properly

[sonic perch]

What if you let the masked further into the ship?

[honest fern]

I mean I tested that on Experimentation the issue just doesn't happen

I don't think it matters where they are

[sonic perch]

Hmm

Could you send me a screenshot of where the trigger is on Kanie from the similar angle?

[honest fern]

That's why I almost wonder if some flag needs changed but I've no idea what

It looks almost the same ngl

[sonic perch]

I think I found my issue

Or at least I think I do?

Only Kanie has this preset missing

Also I found why the dogs went under the ship on the new moon, the links were set to a different navmesh type

[honest fern]

That makes sense

[sonic perch]

I'll quickly drop an update and I'm going to sleep I see the sky starting to light up

[honest fern]

Lmao what time is it for you?

it's only 9 pm here

[sonic perch]

3am

[honest fern]

The sun starts coming up at 3 am for you?

That is wild

;o

[long rune]

for me i see it start coming up around like. 4

[sonic perch]

well not really the sun but I see the sky starts to have this lighter blue / green color

[long rune]

But that's only during like. daylight savings

otherwise it's 5

[long rune]

yeah

[sonic perch]

the sunrise happens in an hour to a minute

over here

[long rune]

ic

[long rune]

thinking about it now was probs on about that instead

I stay up until 4 and see the sky not black and I hear birds and it's like

aw fuck i should sleep

[hoary crown]

rips my shirt off, revealing another shirt underneath saying "i <3 rogue planets"

[sonic perch]

oh god the moment I lie down and start hearing birds I just know I'm up for like 2 hours worth of sleep

[long rune]

lmfao

Somehow I'm usually able to sleep a bunch anyway and even if I don't I fucking make myself

I hate operating on not enough sleep

[sonic perch]

I make myself wake up early so I can have that in my routine when I inevitable start working fulltime in july (if I find a job)

[long rune]

yeah fair

[sonic perch]

other than that if I dont wake up early I will sleep in until like 3-4pm

and I hate that

[long rune]

Understandable, I hate waking up past noon

(not nearly as much as i hate running on not enough sleep)

(but prefer avoiding the latter)

[sonic perch]

Aight I gotta finish this so

UPDATE 2.4.2

||Noctis||

• The ||flash beacon ||now has a longer uptime (from 5 > 8 seconds)
• Fixed the off-mesh links on the ship
• Changed the spawn curves for outside enemies
• Increased the outdoor enemy power count from 4 to 5
  Kanie
• Potentially fixed an issue where the masked would become unkillable upon entering the ship
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

Oh yeah also the moonpack hit 20k recently, supposedly on my birthday of all days

thats all I gotta say

One last thing, readme update tomorrow

[summer dagger]

HAHA

peaknits…. Just incorporate it into your vocabulary atp

my beanish infects others

[sonic perch]

UPDATE 2.4.3

• Added ||Noctis ||into the README
• Slightly optimized some moons
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

This will be my last patch for some time since I'm going away for private stuff, I'll be back somewhere around monday

[honest fern]

@sonic perch

[sonic perch]

So it's a vanilla issue then?

[honest fern]

Yep

[pastel parrot]

ay happy late, or current birthday!!!

you deserve so many more downloads 🔥

[short river]

Happy late birthday! I hope you're having a wonderful day for yourself and i hope your LC projects will go well too!

[sonic perch]

Update 2.4.4

Noctis

• Slightly lowered down moon's ambiance
• The flash beacon can now be activated manually
• Removed the ability for the flash beacon to activate automatically
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

I'm finally back from my break! I'll finally tackle Bilge's networking issues this week and hopefully release the working version by friday

[sonic perch]

Update 2.4.5 (EXPERIMENTAL VERSION, ROLL BACK TO 2.4.4 IF SOMETHINGS NOT WORKING)

Bilge

• Optimized the file
• Readded the tide system, now triggering on specific hours instead of randomly
• Fixed funky collision near main building
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

[sonic perch]

Update 2.4.6 (Looks like Bilge is technically working, so I've finally sat down and optimized the moons)

• Changed the icon so it includes 's at the end of Skelaah
• Changed the README (had a mismatching number of moons on its page)

Noctis, Kanie, Bilge

• Reduced the lethalbundle file sizes by a lot

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

[steady surge]

glory to the 's

[honest fern]

Guessing you used the help from s1ckboy on those lol, I knew when I saw the size they could be optimized

[sonic perch]

yah, I never sat down and did it properly, for the 3 of those that I changed, I believe I can squeeze out extra 3~5MBs per scene

The other 2 are on separate projects so I'll have to either merge them into the rest of the project (if that's even possible) or I'll just do them individually

[true notch]

I've been super busy as of late but I can't wait to play with the new moon and potentially fixed bilge

[thin badger]

Played this mod again after the update, and i gotta say that this moon-pack (And moons in general) are pretty solid, there were some audio/lighting issues here and there, but it was pretty snazzy overall (Although bilge's flood just seems inescapable).

[sonic perch]

bilge's flood just seems inescapable
good

okay but fr now, I'll either make the warning appear a bit faster or the tide transition itself a bit slower

once you get the warning you should make a decision to either stay inside or risk going to the elevator before drowning

[willow fable]

just played on Noctis yesterday - it appears that the huge light in the middle may not be synced properly for other clients

and also, some of the trees on Kanie appear to use the Snowman break effect for some reason

[sonic perch]

okay I see the issue with the trees, I didn't put the right tag on them so the game probably mistakes them for other breakable objects

as for Noctis, I'm not sure yet but I'll keep looking\

[sonic perch]

Okay, pushing the update in a second regarding both of these changes

If the issue with Noctis persists, then lmk

[willow fable]

alr!

[hasty wagon]

this is happening with every modded moon i think

[sonic perch]

I think it depends on the type of tree that you import on your moon scene

one of the tree types doesn't have its proper tag that's responsible for the script to recognise them as trees rather than snowmen, at least I think so

[willow fable]

Didn't happen on Bilge

[hasty wagon]

i see

[pastel parrot]

oh yeah, this was happening w generic's integrity

[pastel parrot]

generic's are custom tree models but they may grab from the one you're talking about

[sonic saffron]

Truly a generic moment

[sonic saffron]

Ngl Bilge goes neat with Atlas' valley skybox

[sonic perch]

It does look pretty cool

I wonder if I should look for custom skyboxes myself

At least for 2 other moons that don't have htem

[pastel parrot]

I think it'd be a good idea imo

for some or all really

[sonic perch]

yeah

I don't want Bilge and Kanie to have galaxy based skyboxes (like acheron or noctis)

I'll have to look for more skyboxes like the ones that Atlas provides

[willow fable]

just on Noctis right now, it appears it may still not be synced - haven't got time to test if it's a conflict right now though

[sonic perch]

looks like we're gonna have to go back to automated flash beacons from the first few patches

at least for the time being

[mossy lark]

just increase the flash rate to compensate i guess?

[sonic saffron]

I swear noctis doesn't spawn any enemies -

Used the cruiser gal and somehow encountered no one-

[sonic perch]

Pretty sure I had an issue where the exact opposite thing happened 😭

I give up on making my own spawn curves, I'll just copy one over from vanilla

[sonic saffron]

Noctis is so mysterious -

That it defies spawn curves

[sonic perch]

speaking of Noctis, I still want a somewhat manual activation of the flash beacon so I'm currently working on an alternative to the lever

[sonic perch]

Update 2.4.8

Noctis

• Changed the way the flash beacon works (proximity instead of stable cooldown)
• Added a new flash animation whenever an enemy is nearby

Kanie, Bilge

• Further decreased the file sizes

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

[sonic perch]

okay the new update decided to eat Kanie's entire terrain away, for the love of god do not go to Kanie right now

[hasty wagon]

i think we should go to kanie guys

[sonic perch]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-25785566

Other moons should be fine but I'll check just in case

[honest fern]

I guess it's a good thing you didn't update the seperate uploads yet

lol

[sonic perch]

yeah I dont even know how that happened

this happened to me several times back when I first used Terramesh, sometimes it just ate away the terrain prefabs for no reason

[honest fern]

☠️

[sonic perch]

For now I'll revert Kanie to the previous version (the current standalone one)

[thin badger]

Looks like someone mowed the planet a little bit too hard🌲

[sonic perch]

Update 2.4.10

Chronos

• Changed the colour of the fog and increased it's visibility slightly
• Added a new Fire Exit
• Removed the stupid parkour thing next to the bridge (I will make it better in the next update)
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

[sonic perch]

Seems like everything's in check for now, so I'm posting a WIP of a new moon which I'm planning to drop by the end of this week

[sonic saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/kurimanju-freak-freaky-tongue-chiikawa-gif-14803241557829479357

[hasty wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240798144032411660/1390847288997318747/twitter_1940972343406600328.gif

[pastel parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-mudskipper-reaction-my-honest-gif-9720056272567426772

heat???

[short river]

The new Tilt moon!

[mossy lark]

🗿

[last ore]

stonehedge the moon

[sonic perch]

Update 2.5.0

• ADDED A NEW MOON: ||28-Terra||
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/

I was a little greedy and decided to skip the wait

[pastel parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-fire-writing-perfect-writing-perfect-cell-writing-writing-perfect-cell-gif-17299771935638990179

i NEED to try this. GRAAAH

[true notch]

ourgh

I need to check this out inmediately

can't cause I'm traveling. Again.

[sonic perch]

oof, is it like work related or something?

[mossy lark]

aint Terra an alias for planet Earth?

[short river]

I think so yeah.

[pastel parrot]

it just means land but also the planet yeah

(in science fiction)

https://tenor.com/view/savosandsavos-gif-10098754770260943602

[sonic perch]

oh yeah the naming is pure coincidence

[severe imp]

can you name it terraria

[pastel parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/gog-ultimate-gog-ultigog-gog-monkey-monkey-gog-gif-18791701

[hoary crown]

https://tenor.com/view/gog-bobux-rich-robux-tower-heroes-gif-20086188

[mossy lark]

i cooooouuuuuld just make an icon of Earth

||i wont||

||unless you want me to||

||but until then||

||i probly wont||

||you lost the game||

[last ore]

gdi pepsiman

[mossy lark]

[sonic perch]

ffs

[sonic perch]

very greedy

[mossy lark]

[thin badger]

https://tenor.com/view/miserable-crying-sad-tears-black-guy-gif-12326280655494835815

[hasty wagon]

2 weight weed killer goes hard

[sonic perch]

lmao ikr

paco and kiszony will surely appreciate that

[hasty wagon]

terra might remind kiszony of trite too much

and he will get scared and run away

[sonic perch]

face your fears and obtain the sacred weed killer

[last ore]

Let's add weed killers to weighting and not tell lunxara about it

[steady surge]

as stated by mrov, this will only add the weathers to the company, not actually make them work
so majora will not work, and pretty sure eclipsed also

[sonic perch]

pretty sure you meant that in the Legendweathers thread yea?

[sonic perch]

-# I did

[steady surge]

wth

oh shit

how did i do that

oops

[sonic perch]

dont worry lmao

[hasty wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240798144032411660/1390847288997318747/twitter_1940972343406600328.gif

[mossy lark]

EARTH ||it's not Earth||

[steady surge]

im gonna improve majora on Terra and Noctis

[sonic perch]

Hmm not sure about Noctis, currently it doesn't have any other weather than Clear due to it potentially killing immersion

[pastel parrot]

blackout noctis

[willow fable]

Foggy Noctis

[sonic perch]

that's like saying wet water

[willow fable]

What about Eclipsed?

[sonic perch]

Sounds like a nightmare tbh

But I can implement it in, you just won't see any difference

[hasty wagon]

it depends on what you make the spawn cycle be

i dont actually know what noctis' stats are

let me check

ForestGiant:8,MouthDog:24,RadMech:16

this might be scary

i mean

max outdoor power is 5

only one giant/old bird will be able to spawn

but regardless

Eyeless Dog: 50%
Old Bird: 33.3%
Forest Giant: 16.6%

those chances arent very far off eachother

and the giant would be evil

[sonic perch]

What power level are dogs again?

[hasty wagon]

2

inside is fine btw

akin to embrion tbh

[sonic perch]

I hope that the spawn curves aren't too shit, but they shouldn't be since for Noctis specifically I think I copied over one from like assurance or vow I think..?

[pastel parrot]

LMAO

[hasty wagon]

post v70?

cause if you copied over assurance's post v70, might be more than youd want

zeekerss buffed assurance's natural spawn curve in v70

its why bees are spawning so much more now a days on assurance

if you have something that makes them spawn at any daytime interval

like the buff is actually insane and makes assurance a bit less desirable to go to

its like a mini-infestation

[sonic perch]

yeah it was post v70 but again, not sure if it was assurance or vow

[hasty wagon]

i can probably tell by just loading imperium and watching spawns per wave

[sonic perch]

Yea

Fun fact, Bilge's initial spawn curves were copied from Liquidation (there's full information about Liquidation in the ripped asset files)

I heard people saying the insides spawn curves especially were wayy too unbalanced so I changed them

[true notch]

weren't liquidation's curves for everything the same as artifice's

pre balance artifice from the betas

[pastel parrot]

nope

they're a bit diff i think

[pastel parrot]

oh that maybe

[true notch]

uhm akchually

[pastel parrot]

vodka's ||new moon|| also uses liquidation stats lol

[plush lotus]

@sonic perch

[sonic perch]

Woah, this is really cool, thanks!

[sonic perch]

Update 2.5.2

Kanie

• Added a new mechanic - automatic door gate ~~ (make sure to not the be near them when they're closing)~~
• Added an alternative exit from the landing zone, as well as a safe spot from the creatures in-between the crates
• Added JLL as a dependency

Bilge

• Readded the VFX on a breakable pipe
• Added extra lights near the bottom platform to make it more visible during the midday
• Increased the route price from 450 to 625
• Decreased the interior multiplier size from 2.15x to 2x

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons/
-# sorry if anything's broken currently 3am over here also thanks everyone for 35k downloads!

here are the screenshots of the new stuff

[thin badger]

Still waiting on that greenhouse (Which also contains alien weed) to be added in kanie trust🗣️🪴
The green-date will become real fr 🗣️

But on a more serious note, cool update, i dig it. Although i'm not sure if it's a good idea to make bilge even more expensive, but either way it seems fine

[sonic perch]

I got some feedback that bilge was a bit too difficult for its price, so I nerfed some aspects of it and increased the price, which I might decrease if it turns out to be an overkill

[sonic perch]

-# and yes the greenhouse update will come at some point

[thin badger]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[pastel parrot]

the gate really adds to kanie, love it

[hoary crown]

get the fuck up you are not built for these moons little guy

[sonic saffron]

Still idk how the spawning for noctis work fr fr

Wait I got it now lol

[short river]

Honestly, atmosphere wise Noctis is my favorite moon so far from the bunch.

Really brings back the "first time" Lethal Company vibe in terms of scary.

[mossy lark]

Rend my beloved

[sonic saffron]

Yea okay it works pretty good lol

#game-clips message

[sonic saffron]

Wait is Terra rocky or valley??

[sonic perch]

Rocky I think

[sonic perch]

I love Noctis as well

took this screenshot a while back and I love how it looks

[short river]

That looks sick.

I tried adding the Driftwood from CR to it earlier and damn does it go hard. Seeing the Driftwood's eyes glow in the dark with his menacing sounds just makes the whole thing even better.

[sonic perch]

woah haha

[short river]

But still, the best thing are the ambient sounds, it just adds so much when you are inside and expect an enemy any moment.

[sonic perch]

I love whenever an enemy passes near the light and it glows red

whenever I see it when I'm not on the ship I'm like 'oh shit' lmao

[short river]

Oh so that's why it glows red sometimes! I didn't know that, that's good information actually.

[sonic perch]

Yup, that's the indicator lmao

[hoary crown]

add it to the page

[steady cloud]

Noticed on Terra moon. Dropship items drops thru the terrain (atleast 2 out of 4 spots goes thru the terrain)

and the fire coming out of dropship are flickering(?)

[hasty wagon]

dont actually know what causes the flickering on some moons

but it doesnt bother me as much as music playing as its landing :P

[sonic perch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

I also saw some meshes hovering slightly above the terrain, they'll also be fixed by then

[sonic perch]

Update 2.5.4

Bilge

• Reduced the price down to 500

Terra

• Fixed the dropship's items spawning under the terrain
• Fixed multiple grass meshes floating above the terrain
• Updated the water to have custom Ogopogo spawn zones
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons

[pastel parrot]

GOGUS!!!

Give me weights for that later

[sonic perch]

-# very mysterious content update coming not so soon

[steady surge]

||train?||

[summer dagger]

||ive always wanted a moving train... so lets take a look when it releases...||

[mossy lark]

imagine a moon

that's a train

and the environment scrolls to make it look as if it's moving

[pastel parrot]

That's ideally how you'd do something like that

prolly!

[last ore]

the ||train|| stuff you saying reminds me of ||zingar's dusthaven depot||

[summer dagger]

hey buddy

ive had that planned for several months

it WILL exist

[steady surge]

Insane

[thin badger]

Nah, months of development DESTROYED💥

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[sonic perch]

||YOUR LIFE IS IN GOOD HANDS!
We've trained your pilot to navigate even the most dangerous conditions.||

[hasty wagon]

wow no jumpscare

thats crazy

[sonic perch]

||boo||

[hasty wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/necromancy-gif-5157321473599463596

[last ore]

wow ||trying to be oxyde by ruining the ship keep doing that please||

[sonic perch]

UPDATE 2.5.5

• Updated readme

Noctis

• Added lights near the dropship to make dropped items more visible
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons

[toxic perch]

||New Moon? or just an update?||

[sonic perch]

just an update sadly

it will take a while until the next moon update

[toxic perch]

Ah, well I can't wait for ||Greenhouse (I think that's the moon name)|| to drop

||Hyped as hell for it the teasers you gave are insane||

[sonic perch]

||pretty sure Greenhouse is one of Wesley's interiors 😅
I can see it fit into Kanie (one of my actual moons) but I'm not planning on making a moon called Greenhouse ||

[hasty wagon]

can you make a moon called the gayhouse

[sonic perch]

no

[toxic perch]

Oh so that's what you meant here: #1355705471050186803 message

[hasty wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255310300757102663/1381704664160010240/poorbaby-blank.gif

[sonic perch]

OHHH THIS

[toxic perch]

Never mind I read, you are adding a greenhouse to one of your moons

[sonic perch]

Yup haha

[toxic perch]

I didn't read before

https://tenor.com/view/mold-spore-attack-mold-spore-attack-car-gif-13865220698347045437

[sonic perch]

dont worry about it

that will also come some time in the future

[severe imp]

noctis is not the moon you want to be landing on after staying awake for way longer than you should

[sonic perch]

The new moon will be released sometime later today or if not, then sometime during the weekend

Ngl I'm mad at myself since I wanted this to be a double release but I wanted to be a bit more ambitious with the other moon and overestimated my own abilities and I don't know how it will take to finish the other one so I'm posting one at least have something new for this month

[thin badger]

Oh don't worry about it, you probably shouldn't be so ambitious. (Especially if you might not be able to handle it sometimes) Just remember take care of yourself alright? And please DON'T rush this. Art takes time and so do you.

[short river]

Take your time, quite a few of your moons have unique gimmicks to them and i imagine that it takes a bit more than a regular moon to create and test those

[last ore]

Don't be
You're not rockstar
It's not mandatory
Polish the moons further if you need
Lunxara streams tomorrow too
The legion won't fall
You will succeed
You will grow
You have wildered your moons
Take my support
Leave it to yourself
Let yourself grow
Don't assimilate tho

[sonic perch]

Damn you really had to use translated message 4 for ts

But for real, thanks, to everyone here

[short river]

I meant to thumbs up the bottom message but i guess this works too

[sonic perch]

I'm not going to rush anything, now that I decided to not have a double release but it's still a shame

I actually had a moon ready for release for quite a while but I wanted to be a bit greedy

[short river]

Hey maybe it's gonna make the eventual release even better?

[sonic perch]

I hope so

[short river]

I believe in it

[sonic perch]

I will say, I'm not sure if I should put the moon in my moonpack since its gameplay will be a bit different than the usual moon gameplay loop

-# not the one I'm releasing today, the other one ofc

[short river]

Hmm, maybe a poll would be nice in that regard? Or maybe a standalone release first and see what people think about it?

[sonic perch]

Yeah I'll probably release a standalone version first

[short river]

Sounds like a good idea.

[steady cloud]

is it not wild !? 😳

[sonic perch]

might be **too **wild 👅

[quaint oxide]

I only have the moonpack :,]
I usually download only the moonpack to avoid mod count bloat

[sonic perch]

Yeah understandable

I'll most likely have a poll in here when it eventually comes out

[steady cloud]

extra wild 😌

[quaint oxide]

in worst case I'll do an embrion

[pastel parrot]

can't help but think of him when I see 👅

[sonic perch]

💀

[hoary crown]

im an artist from krypton and this is my work ❤️

[toxic perch]

I think it comes down to how insane the moon is, if the moon is like your normal ones but with extra then you should add it, if it's Oxyde levels of "where the hell am I" then it would be better to have it as it's own thing

[sonic perch]

UPDATE 2.6.0 (& 2.6.1)

-** Added a new moon:** ||81-Deadlock||

• Updated readmes
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons

[sonic saffron]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1041583271932338247/1135760270778707980/stupid_ass_cat.gif

[hasty wagon]

wtf deadlocked from geometry dash

[mossy lark]

new mün??

[eager merlin]

Yummers

[pastel parrot]

WTF DEADLOCK

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-deadlock-dead-lock-abrams-gif-1965662900681p557133

omg i didnt see the end

uhm

AnimatedPlink

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-hop-on-hop-on-deadlock-games-moba-gif-1323395493917429811

[proven torrent]

These are absolutely my favourite moons ❤️

[sonic perch]

Thank you! I'm really glad to her that!

[candid skiff]

I'm sending my Deadlock obsessed friend this moon lol

[sonic perch]

oh ffs lmao

[hoary crown]

deadlock?????

https://tenor.com/view/cat-geometry-dash-transform-kisses-gif-17815799

[sonic perch]

ISTG I'M GONNA CHANGE THE MOONS NAME

[quaint oxide]

man... Softlocked on loading Deadlock

will send u the logs

[toxic perch]

4 people beat me to the GD Deadlocked joke

[rich wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlocked-gif-23063430

Deadlock??

[toxic perch]

Deadlock is cool and all but when are we getting Alivelock

https://tenor.com/view/deadlocked-geometry-dash-meme-gif-25586237

Skelaah's Deadlocked Moons

Deadlock Deadlocked Deadlocks

I have overused the joke it is no longer funny

[mossy lark]

lesser attempt at translating the thumbnail, but it gave me imagery i could work with

[sonic perch]

Hmm

Has this happened to anyone else?

[hasty wagon]

i just now realized
this was likely just vanilla

the vanilla game has a rare bug where host loading breaks and just never loads

and therefore the moon never does

i have experienced this numerous times

unless moroxide confirms they tried like 7 times

id just surpass it as that

[sonic perch]

Well, I made a control version of just my moons and seems to be loading in just fine

I'll try the same with the standalone version in a sec

[hasty wagon]

i loaded standalone to see it and its fine

[sonic perch]

yeah seems to be fine with mine as well

[hasty wagon]

@quaint oxide

[sonic perch]

I'm seeing toy store spawning in the logs, I used to have an issue with toy store not spawning properly on custom moons but that was a while ago

I'd like to see the while mod profile, if it really was just an unlucky vanilla issue then I'd like to know for sure

[hasty wagon]

i think we can all agree we would rather have this rare vanilla bug happen

(i still havent seen this myself 3.2k hours later 😢)

[sonic perch]

is that a smol loot bug?

[hasty wagon]

hoarding bugs spawn from vents squished down, but unlike other monsters, this is not an exiting animation
so, if the server chugs at the right moment, the hoarding bug will remain squished, and nothing is in the game to make it be un-squished

its probably the rarest bug in vanilla, i dont know of any other obscure ones

[sonic perch]

oh wow lmao

I never knew anything like that could happen

[hasty wagon]

heres a video of it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189973207608995991/1239865254415040533/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_242.mp4?ex=688e7cc0&is=688d2b40&hm=13cb9b30583458a7c3bcd843a5346f33b3f3b8df049a92d75577133c974701ee&

[upbeat imp]

So, loving Deadlock so far, but uh... I think the walls next to the entrance don't have collision- i've backed up against the wall when the train is coming twice now and fallen to my death lol

[sonic perch]

Oh shit lmao

I moved the entrance last second because the walk was too short for my likings so something must have happened when I did that

[quaint oxide]

I'll be testing again in a bit after the update actually appears in the manager

[sonic perch]

I've decided to change the readme screenshots for some moons because most of them are very outdated and I like how these came out so I'll be posting them here:

• Acheron

• Kanie

• Chronos

[quaint oxide]

btw, any recommended interior for Deadlokc?

[sonic perch]

• Noctis

[sonic perch]

vanilla Facility, Grand Armoury, uhhh maybe Subsystems...? anything factory-related seems like the best fits imo,

back to the thing

• Bilge

• Terra

• Deadlock (currently only this one because there's not much visuals in it lmao)

[last ore]

I thought it was the T-word planet

I hope it doesn't have turrets or lone listeners

[sonic perch]

fun fact: Chronos' first layout iteration was literally Trite, I had the moon finished before finding out that Wesley had the same exact moon idea almost a year before me so I decided to scrap it 😭

[last ore]

I mean tr*te is the only city moon with vanilla style
it would pass if it was changed a little

budapest and argent aren't really vanillaesque

[sonic perch]

I guess that's true

I want to make a city moon ngl

Trite 2

[last ore]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

do it so I can shit on it as well

[sonic perch]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-zenless-zone-zero-hoyoverse-nuh-uh-zzz-gif-13074252805747367964

no shittng on my moons

only pissing

[last ore]

oki

I shit on tr-te
and piss on your tr-te 2

[last ore]

detected

[sonic perch]

hell yeah

I lost the 50/50 on her recently 😭

[last ore]

I won her on her first banner
but stopped playing
too complicated relic system for my brain, so I rather star rail
now I have an problem if I should actually revive my wuthering waves account, or pull or alice

[sonic perch]

hmmm

never played wuwa and I dont like how toxic its community is towards outsiders so I cant help you with that

[last ore]

I see
I hated wuwa for how blank the characters are
the community is terrible but characters improved in time
I think I might wanna stay on ZZZ if I had to choose

but 2 gachas already feel like a big responsibility considering I play HSR since the release

[sonic perch]

I started playing ZZZ after completely burning out on genshin and honestly never looked back

[last ore]

genshin's mid af
sorry not sorry

[sonic perch]

-# (and yeah I also played genshin since release lmao)

[last ore]

I took too many breaks and lost too many 50/50's to even try going back to the game

losing on yelan banner was my ultimate point I completely dropped the game

[sonic perch]

I loved some of the regions they did like Enkanomiya or Dragonspine but they butchered the last year's update so bad I lost any sort of love I had left for the game

it also helps that ever since march (thats when I picked up zzz) I haven't lost a single 50/50 up to 3 days ago (GDI MIYABI)

[quaint oxide]

ok, happened again :,]

Deadlocked on Deadlock

[sonic perch]

weird

can you do a control version profile

(just deadlock / the moonpack)

[quaint oxide]

can't find the issue why it's not loading

[sonic perch]

both times I'm seeing toy store as the interior

[quaint oxide]

will check that

[quaint oxide]

yup

[quaint oxide]

ok, It's something on my pack that only happens on this moon of my +70 moons

[sonic perch]

over how many moons?

bob

[quaint oxide]

40 "normal" moons + Wesley

I tried removing all the configs, and changing interior

still nothing

still softlocked :,]

I don't know what it could be

[sonic perch]

sadly I dont really know either since crashing at loading in are quite common and there can be multitude of reasons

can you send me the code to the pack? I'll look at it and worst case scenario will go through it one by one

[quaint oxide]

BZhZEEIESbmr91HE0dVTWg

[quaint oxide]

Did a test without async in case it's affecting some logs

[quaint oxide]

If I disable Loadstone, now I'm getting this error log when trying to land DeadLock

[quaint oxide]

yup, found the issue

CodeRebirth

[sonic perch]

Okay think I know whats the issue

Deadlock doesn't have any outside AI nodes

And from what I see CR tries to spawn the outside hazards like cranes, AC units etc

[quaint oxide]

I see

[sonic perch]

if I'm right, blacklisting Deadlock from the moon lists on those outside hazards' configs should work

just to be safe though, I'll add at least a couple of nodes

[quaint oxide]

yeah, that'd be hard

I'd have to set this FOR EVERY TRAP to all +70 moons except deadlock
Instead of having it Vanilla/Custom

Vanilla - 0.00,0.00 ; 0.11,0.05 ; 0.22,0.08 ; 0.33,0.09 ; 0.44,0.12 ; 0.56,0.18 ; 0.67,0.28 ; 0.78,0.46 ; 0.89,0.77 ; 1.00,1.20 | Custom - 0.00,0.00 ; 0.11,0.05 ; 0.22,0.08 ; 0.33,0.09 ; 0.44,0.12 ; 0.56,0.18 ; 0.67,0.28 ; 0.78,0.46 ; 0.89,0.77 ; 1.00,1.20 | Oxyde - 0.00,0.00 ; 1.00,0.00

[sonic perch]

yeah I think I'll just put some AI nodes

[quaint oxide]

that'd be good

Thanks

[sonic perch]

okay I launched another update

hopefully it should fix the issue

[true notch]

I gotta try out Deadlock

[limber roost]

its tuff

[true notch]

was able to play Lethal properly for the first time since last year a few days ago, fucking love noctis and bilge

[limber roost]

i cant stop thinking abt it. its a standout

[true notch]

yar. The gimmicks of these moons hit so darn hard

[toxic perch]

Now that it was mentioned, what are the recommended interiors for your Moons? Mainly asking for Terra due to the "POPULATION: Never settled by humans"

[sonic perch]

I usually ask around other modders whenever I find a fitting interior for a moon

for Terra I guess Wesley's Citadel could work?

I'd have to update some tags to have a specific biome of the Citadel to appear but yeah

not sure if you can toggle it with a tag but the gutless version of Castellum Carnis also slaps

[toxic perch]

I think it's extremely funny that no other modder ever has made a ruins interior (I guess you could also count DemonMae's Unreal interiors but they aren't custom made [idea taken from Unreal]) are modders just extremely against the idea of making anything that isn't a Facility?

[summer dagger]

ruins are just more difficult, organic / decayed will always be harder than artificial

its really hard to make ruins make sense

its not every day you find underground ancient ruins

it is every day you enter a normal building

see?

[toxic perch]

Yeah I understand, but it seems more people are making more ruins like Moons so I think there is starting to be a demand

[hasty wagon]

bird

[summer dagger]

plirdite

[sonic perch]

valid, yet it's still very surprising that we don't really have a proper organic cave system as an interior

[summer dagger]

im assuming u mean like exclusively caves

[sonic perch]

yeah, I knew I should have addressed that better lmao

by organic I meant without human interference so no mineshafts no elevators etc

[sonic saffron]

Wait what tags are there for da moons???

[sonic perch]

Update 2.6.4 (PUSH BACK TO 2.6.3 THIS ONE IS CURRENTLY BROKEN, SEARCHING FOR THE ISSUE RN)

All Moons

• Updated / Added content tags (custom interiors should now be more immersive)
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons

[sonic saffron]

YOOI

[sonic perch]

From what I saw, currently Kanie is making the entire pack void on lobby launch so either please install standalone versions of my moons or remove the both Kanie .lethalbundles from the files

[sonic perch]

couldn't find the fix to the issue yet so for now I'm reverting Kanie to the previous version

should fix the green mist void issue

[earnest grove]

I went through all of the 8 updated mods until it was Kanie's turn and was confused when that ended up being the cause of the black void with green smoke. Never had a moon do that before 😅

[sonic perch]

yup sorry for that

[earnest grove]

Hah, it's fine. I am glad it wasn't the other mods that had big changes or bug fixes. Got nothing to complain about with Kanie!

[limber roost]

getting weed smoked from kanie is peak

[rich wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-staring-cat-stare-stop-staring-at-me-please-gif-9315292369693569596

[sonic perch]

FOUND THE ISSUE ITS THE FUCKING BIRD

[rich wharf]

Its that fucking bird that i hate

[sonic perch]

LMAO

https://tenor.com/view/that-bird-that-i-hate-dashie-dashiegames-gif-1682063604608334349

[hasty wagon]

just kill it

easy

[sonic perch]

hol on

its actually not the bird

its either the bird or a story log

LMAO I am losing my mind

[rich wharf]

Or both

Or neither

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-smile-wendy-peter-pan-internally-screaming-gif-4570330

[sonic perch]

oh my god it is the story log

that also explains why no other moon has crashed

[summer dagger]

stories not allowed

only plirds

https://tenor.com/view/woodcock-walk-gif-16362994160222888738

[sonic perch]

turns out the story log had a missmatched content tag

ONE MISSMATCH

https://tenor.com/view/joker-killingjoke-gif-19396209

[summer dagger]

u are not the jinkler 💔

you are the awesomer

[sonic perch]

thank you beanie

[sonic perch]

Update 2.6.6 the insanity update

Deadlock

• Fixed a skybox issue (would change into the vanilla one after 6PM)

Kanie

• Changed some indoor / outdoor enemy spawns
• Added TZP as a possible scrap spawn (gonna be a bit before I learn how to properly add custom items)
• Fixed the stupid fucking issue with voiding players on lobby launch
• FUCK YOU STORY LOG VOID ISSUE
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons

[mossy lark]

🙂

[last ore]

spawnable dr*gs hell yeah

[sonic perch]

okay I've cooled down now

[quaint oxide]

Hello!
Uhm... I've found a bug that can be a nuisance some times.
The 2nd item dropped of the Dropship (front side) doesn't appear on noctis

[true notch]

Deadlock is really cool, did a testrun with it earlier

only weirdness I ran into was a minor fog related thing. The volumetrics for the tunnel infact are visible from positions close to the wall from the outside.

[sonic perch]

this is because of the little pockets you can hide in during the train sequence, if the fog wasn't extended to them it would've looked weird whenever you'd hide in them

I'll still fix it tho

[sonic perch]

Update 2.6.7

• Readded content tags to multiple moons, now that I know they weren't the issue

Deadlock

• Fixed the volumetric fog clipping through the tunnel walls

Terra

• Fixed a spawn curve causing outside enemies to sometimes spawn really early

Noctis

• Fixed the dropship item clipping into the ground beneath it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheWildSkelaah/SkelaahsWildMoons

[sonic perch]

In case people get confused, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BLACKLIST DEADLOCK ON CODE REBIRTH HAZARD LISTS, its already fixed

[quaint oxide]

ok, I have to blacklist deadlock

/j

[sonic perch]

bardzoZy

[rich wharf]

Ok i have to beat deadlock

[pastel parrot]

ok i have to hop on deadlock

https://tenor.com/view/broke-back-brokeback-mountain-hop-on-hop-on-deadlock-deadlock-gif-817968691917176197

[sonic perch]

I'm thinking of making a form to gain some feedback on my current moons, I feel kinda burnt out because I'm not making any progress on the current next moon, so I want to go back to up the quality on some of my other work;
Would you guys be interested if I made one? I could even make something like a poll for a theme for the new moon

[mossy lark]

Lava. Swamp.
those are my 2 muses when it comes to moon theming. there would be a 3rd if electricity was a more common theme

not machinery

i mean like lightning, and lots of it

[summer dagger]

i was thinking of a lightning moon

[mossy lark]

i hav idea to feed you then 🙂

[summer dagger]

I was thinking of a moon made of magnetic metal called cynosure/induction/ferrite

beeg shiny moon

might still do it

could be cool

would certainly be unique

if anyone takes the idea ill throw magnets at them

could be seen as nephrite’s twin

except big zappy blue lightning

and glowing crystals and metal

[mossy lark]

ive sent my take

[oblique ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleepy-sleep-biting-bite-gif-18033591478874867089

[pastel parrot]

I think a google forms like what ziggy did would be goated asf

[sonic perch]

Yeah that's what I'm doing rn, I'm like halfway done but I'm getting real tired so probably will finish this up tomorrow

[sonic perch]

Okay the form's out!
FYI I've never done this before so it might be scuffed and some questions might be weird so please be patient with it. If you don't have the time or will to fill out everything then just complete the first section (should take up to 5 mins). Thanks!

[still gale]

Has anyone else experienced desync for the train on deadlock? the train / red lighting / grate closing events seem to only occur for the host for me

I tested within my modpack and then again on a stripped down pack

[limber roost]

yup, nearly pasted me cause i couldnt get back to ship and the train desynced

dang chainlink door

[sonic perch]

by host only you mean they dont happen for the clients at all or at desynced times?

[willow fable]

had the train desync for clients, i think some people saw it but some didn't

[still gale]

For almost every client, the train events did not occur (reportedly)

On one ocassion there was one client who had the train desync'd, by which i mean it occurred at a different time to the host. However it seems like this was in appearance only: they would see the train at the same time as me, but they were later killed by an invisible train at a different time

[sonic perch]

Hmm

On which version were you playing when this happened?

[still gale]

When I was playing with my group's modpack, that was the first version on release, where that situation with the invisible train occurred (and everyone else reportedly not seeing a train). I noted that down, so I could test it again outside the modpack.

I later did that test with one friend on version 1.0.2, and the issue still occurred. In that instance, the client could not see or be affected the train event that the host could see.

We didn't stick around to see if anything else would've happened; just stopped after that

[sonic perch]

I'll look around today and get to it tomorrow, for now this probably means Deadlock needs to be either pulled out of the pack or not routed to since it doesn't work

[still gale]

I absolutely love deadlock, my friends do too, so I wish you luck!!

the ambience is great for it, one of my fav bits about it

[sonic perch]

Thanks! I will definitely need it, since it seems me and networking issues in my moons are like the biggest enemies lmao

[sonic perch]

forwarding this in case people didn't see it

[mossy lark]

sent my demands form in. few of the moon ratings had "Bad" and "Okay" swapped. just know, i went with what the column said and not what the column should be

[sonic perch]

yeah mb, this is what happens when I do this at 3-4am 😅

[mossy lark]

shit happens

[obsidian ocean]

survey's done, would have added more if I actually played Terra before

[steady surge]

I answered the poll! 😎
I made a lot of comments lol

[pastel parrot]

I want to play them all again tomorrow so I can answer the survey appropriately :)

[honest fern]

@sonic perch It's Alex rn not Kylie but I did the survey lol

[sonic perch]

seems like I'm not getting any other entries which means I'm gonna start my work, once again thank you everyone for taking your time filling out the survey ♥️
I do have one last question regarding any updates. Since I will be adjusting some things (spanning from simple additions to reworking entire moon layouts) in every single one of my moons, would you prefer to wait for a singular update to every moon or should I just release every updated moon one by one

[sand haven]

May be a little less overwhelming to release them individually just for the sake of like bug patches and stuff along the lines of that

[last ore]

Exactly dude, take time and care into your next development objective
We'll be there...
We'll be waiting...

[mossy lark]

1 @ a time

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story2-cleaner-you-cant-rush-art-rush-art-impatient-client-gif-20473209

[sonic perch]

Alright!

Since I already on it, the first moon getting a (slight) rework will be Kanie

[last ore]

it'll still be a cruiser moon right?

[hoary crown]

why wouldn't it be...

[last ore]

well y'know

[sonic perch]

Yup, no terrain reworks

[last ore]

I see

[obsidian ocean]

my only big gripe with Kanie is the relatively small default scrap pool, so you see a lot of Bottles and Chemical Jugs

[last ore]

Aaaaaand I just lost yanagi

[sonic perch]

NOOOOOOOO

[last ore]

this could be karma for stepping out of plan for pulling alice as I don't see her fitting anywhere because I don't have yuzuha
and because of story mode I got bored of her gameplay (which is satisfying but got me bored after some fights)
so yeah, RIP

[sonic perch]

yeah I was gonna go for Alice as well then I played in the story mode and didn't enjoy it

~~plus, I already have a certain physical anomaly rat ~~

I really want Yanagi but not sure if I want to dump every single pull for her since I also want Trigger / Evelyn and not sure when their reruns are

[last ore]

next version is an obvious skip
I don't like either seed or orphie or what her name was

[last ore]

I only want her so I can trash out soukaku
she's so slow bro 😭

[sonic perch]

whats your current team? since you got soukaku I'm guessing you got Miyabi as well?

[last ore]

miyabi lighter soukaku

I adore lighter 😭💔

[sonic perch]

DAMN lighter as well

[last ore]

yeah
but it was a short satisfaction as I saw season 2 character preview and I was like "eww, all mid"

[sonic perch]

lmao real

[last ore]

but then I realized that I don't care about end-games anymore, I already flawlessing end-games on star rail and zzz is rewarding enough for me just to skip them at some point

by rewarding I mean as a F2P you get more pulls in the version than on star rail

[sonic perch]

the only exception for me was Yixuan but that's because I got her at literally 2 pity AND a 50/50 so there's that 😭

[last ore]

-# I admit to pay 5$ (now 10$) monthly for 90 currency pass

[last ore]

I love her design and gameplay
but she's not in my interest tbh

[sonic perch]

yea valid

[last ore]

I just don't like ju fufu character-wise
her gameplay's also decent but lighter's probably better

-# credits to prydwen

have I mentioned that I fell for 1st limited 5⭐ trap and I have M0W1 ellen?

[sonic perch]

woah never knew that

[last ore]

yeah useless piece of knowledge lol
I don't use her that often anymore
even after her buff

• I don't have lycaon and I desperately need him

[last ore]

and hoyo gave me 2nd grace

[sonic perch]

oof

I mean you're closer to that c6 picture buff 💀

[last ore]

-# 🤤

on C5 I think is exposed enough

[sonic perch]

speaking of which you didn't get Lycaon on the free S agent picker thing?

[last ore]

I don't unlocked picker thing yet

if you mean that thing on 2.0 release
then no

I missed it LMAO

[sonic perch]

OH

that sucks

I usually never want to miss out on stuff like that

[last ore]

but actually I need to check if I maybe redeemed that thing
but I doubt it

[sonic perch]

last time I downloaded genshin specifically for that picker thing

same thing with star rail when they had that one character for free for a patch

I never touched star rail after that LMAO

[last ore]

me too
I wanted tighnari very much lol

[last ore]

I hope you took bronya or himeko (welt eventually)

because rest of them sucks

(clara is in between)

[last ore]

I didn't NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sonic perch]

no idea

I mainly play(ed) genshin and currently zzz so i dont really know about any characters from starrail

except acheron which was literally the reason behind the name of the moon

[last ore]

I knew this name was this reference LMAO

[sonic perch]

also HOLY SHIT 50k THANK YOU GUYS 😭

[proven torrent]

I forgot to mention this in your survey sorry, but I have a request: could you please add the tags for each moon in their readme tables?

[sonic perch]

Yea that's definitely something I can add

[proven torrent]

Tysm ❤️

[quaint oxide]

btw. Terra

floating tree

also a small terrain clipping (really small)

[last ore]

It's a feature
Not a bug

[sonic perch]

that fuckin tree that I hate

not sure if it's worth fixing it, now that Terra will be getting a major terrain rework anyway

[sonic perch]

anyway, finally did some progress on Kanie's new fire exit:

with it almost being finished, I'm like 40% done with the update, with the remaining 60% being something I haven't tried on any of my moons yet, so not sure how long it might take

[last ore]

||moon's wesleys repress escape route ||

[pastel parrot]

tthis looks awesome

[sonic perch]

new skybox for the eclipsed and night-time

[summer dagger]

reminds me of a certain green jade planet

(i think we used the same tool)

looks nice

[short river]

[sonic perch]

If you mean the one for the skyboxes then 100% LMAO

[pastel parrot]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/c82e757fc92904a9fe37fb0c6e75915d/d35e4eb0e4e559f6-ab/s250x400/c5f9e331f240060d7d17f88fc4401425e15b4d66.gif

so good...

[toxic perch]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-peak-fiction-one-piece-gif-26139262

[past mauve]

Hey Skelaah, I just wanted to say that you have been cooking with these moons! I was really tempted to add Bilge to my modpack, but I ended up going with Tandraus instead, still a great moon though. The others are also very high quality but just do not tickle my fancy.

I have added the new Deadlock moon though, you knocked it out of the park with that one. I usually do not like moons with non-vanilla gimmicks, but this moon made me reconsider that. The train a simple and effective, being a memorable part of the moon without being overbearing. I sort of think of the train like the Artifice warehouses, and how it “feels” like something Zeekerss would add. Deadlock also has amazing atmosphere with the dark tunnel and train ambience, even after flying around in Imperium and seeing that the train is on a timed loop (and is choreographed with the red lights), it still has me a little on edge. This probably is the scariest non-horror moon I have seen.

Well done Skelaah, you have broaded my horizons when it comes to modded moons.

[sonic perch]

Heya, glad that you like Deadlock! Sadly right now I'm facing issues with the train desynchronizing on other clients so I'd wait with including it just yet

Wait actually

I'll have a fix for the train in a second, it will be slightly more predictable since I'll have to remove any randomness from it but at least it will work

[mossy lark]

trains are typically meant to be on schedule, anyways

[sonic perch]

-# unless you live in Europe

[summer dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-eyes-emoji-let's-take-a-look-gif-16800462008013598153

[mossy lark]

stinkie derailin trains

[past mauve]

I see. I personally would argue the train being on a set schedule is better since it makes the moon more consistent. I know talking about sweaty stuff can turn heads, but at the same time casuals are not making serious modpacks.

If you are up to it, adding AI nodes to the exterior, even if nothing is meant to spawn out there, would be a nice consideration for modpack makers that want to change the spawn pools

[mossy lark]

game's random enough already. days are seed based, afterall. some consistency is fine in my book

[uncut light]

Makes it at least easier to debug if you have it only appear at set times

[sonic perch]

that's true yeah

btw I pushed the update to Deadlock a while ago and didn't notify in here (I forgor)

[uncut light]

I checked in cause I saw the update on Thunderstore lols

[mossy lark]

pog

[last ore]

Don't make me laugh

[past mauve]

Guys chill out, he said “typically meant to be”, which is correct regardless of reality

[steady surge]

I have a question, since you are updating Deadlock rn but i know you are working and a medium to big rework on other moons, should I keep the moon pack in my pack, or should I switch to individuals once youll start uploading the updates ?

[sonic perch]

I'd say it depends on you really
that Deadlock update was a small fix to remove desyncing on other clients to make the map actually playable, but other than that I'm still working on Kanie primarily

[short river]

I would call myself a semi-good casual and i work on a big modpack for me and my friends.

[sonic perch]

I'll have to change the map layout in order to allow outside AI nodes, currently the landing spot is too small to not cause problems like CodeRebirth's outdoor hazards making the map straight up unplayable

[short river]

I just have them disabled atm for Deadlock but yeah, for people not tinkering with any configs it could be an issue.

[steady surge]

Are you going to release updates one by one in individual moons mods, or each time in the moon pack ?

[sonic perch]

I think it's gonna be in both individuals and the moonpack

[steady surge]

Nice, thanks for the answer

[sonic perch]

Update on Kanie: by the end of this week I should be done with detailing the terrain, right now the difference between current and upcoming versions is insane
current:

upcoming:

[grizzled lark]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[sonic perch]

I also revamped the terrain to be a lot more smoother for cruisers

[summer dagger]

holy peak

[sonic perch]

MAN I love telephone poles aesthetics, you're most likely gonna see them in other moon reworks

[summer dagger]

i should revamp the rest of my unchanged moons but

im kinda caught up with an interior

hmm

it might fit well on kanie

idk

[sonic perch]

whatcha cooking Beanie?

[summer dagger]

ill show in a moment...

unity is dying

per usual

oh

it failed to generate

https://tenor.com/view/canny-uncanny-cat-cat-meme-cato-gif-4357296393513395148

[sonic perch]

lmao

[summer dagger]

it was working 5 seconds ago...

[sonic perch]

unity moment

[summer dagger]

OH LMAO

IT REMOVED ALL OF THE TILES

WHY UNITY

it disconnected them all

ok NOW i can show it (once it loads)

[sonic perch]

I actually wanted to DM you about your interior compat with some of my moons but I forgor, I think Deepcore mines are a perfect fit for Acheron and Terra

[last ore]

feels like dejection but more grassy and swamp-foggy

[summer dagger]

oh yeah, when I update it we can do that

im waiting on an update mainly cus im trying to get this done but also because theres some other people who might need their own custom tag variants for stuff so id like to do it one go

image quality is kinda bad but you get the point

[sonic perch]

wait this is an INTERIOR?

[summer dagger]

yep.

its only got 4 tiles rn but i started it last weekend

im finally at a point where I can start producing more tiles

[last ore]

is that REPO interior?
I need an answer before I get excited

[summer dagger]

no, its not a repo interior

[last ore]

peak

[summer dagger]

i already have one of those..

deeproot garden

[last ore]

ikr
that one was also peak but I got disappointed when I found out it was for repo lol

[summer dagger]

this is the spiritual successor to it, but for lethal company (and improved)

[summer dagger]

had to share a bit of my wisdom to the repo peeps

(at the time, there wasnt many good maps... after mine wesley made his and some others came out so i think they are okay now)

its based on both deeproot garden and the OutDoors from doors

a weird mix

[sonic perch]

I saw a fnaf pizzeria map for repo it was actually pretty good

[summer dagger]

yeah that one was good too

but the rest were really meh

most were copy pastes or reskins

i love deeproot garden but repo's systems are so limiting

so i figured

"why not just make a god damn outside interior for lethal? it would be easier."

[sonic perch]

now I wanna see that repo map

[mossy lark]

yea

i wanna see Redfield Bunker in Lethal, too

[summer dagger]

u can check the screenshots on the thunderstore page

[sonic perch]

OHHHH I KNOW THIS ONE ACTUALLY

I never played repo but I remember seeing that one on some of the videos I've watched

[summer dagger]

what videos? ive never seen any youtubers play it

[sonic perch]

-# oh I meant mostly Lunx's streams lmao

[summer dagger]

ohh

[short river]

Now that's the kind of improvement that deserves praise

[past mauve]

Well, this is up to your discretion but I would argue that if your ‘big’ modpack has most of these traits:

• 100+ mods
• 30+ hours spent on its development
• has mods specifically made for it or you requested mod devs to add features to their mods for your modpack
• has a large config mod (LQ, CC, Lunar, etc.) so you can micro-manage everything

I would argue you are past the point of being a casual player. I myself am not a sweat, as I still am horrible with a shovel and can get lost in facilities, but it would be more than a little ridiculous to call myself a casual player

[past mauve]

This is just me, but I would consider this CodeRebirth’s fault and not Deadlock’s. Besides, CodeRebirth has configs to help prevent this sort of issue, so people expecting out-of-box harmony between unrelated mods is their fault. I personally do not like the notion of not adding considerations to mods on the basis of keeping them idiot-proof

[uncut light]

I do agree with you on that

You're definitely not going to get every mod working alongside with one another, like with some of Generic's Moons aren't designed in mind with those mods that make your ship bigger

[proven torrent]

I also agree on that. It's pretty simple to edit CodeRebirth's config to prevent hazards spawning (or have a very rare amount)

[quaint oxide]

optional:

• Have a spreadsheet or excel of the list of moons/dungeons/enemies/scrap/etc.

[uncut light]

^ This
Especially helpful with mods like LethalQuantities if you need to do a fresh preset

If you have a field that also just has a long comma-separated list, plays well with LLL config too

[past mauve]

Ye, if you have that you instantly quality as a serious player/modder I would say. Little Timmy with his SCP/Anime player model/CodeRebirth/2 story ship modpack is not even gonna think to do something like that

[short river]

First two definitely apply to me, third one i only really use Lethal Config.

[short river]

You mena like this? I have my own system lmao

[quaint oxide]

yeah, it works too

[short river]

It just annoyed me at some point that i had to keep track of all the interior weights so i thought of a system for myself to have an overview.

[last ore]

I'm still thinking about you (interior)

-# fuck forgot to disable ping... get pinged ig

[summer dagger]

heys its 2 am and im not asleep yet

[last ore]

Oh hii

[summer dagger]

if anything it reminded me to sleep

[last ore]

It's almost 8 am for me

[summer dagger]

anyways I just tested the interior

ingame

shockingly

it works good

I just need to fix lighting errors and remove the fog

sadly the fog does not work

😔

[last ore]

Fog sucks anyway

I mean it
When I'm into the foggy interior, at 98,5% I reload the lobby
-# I think I might just disable seamines

[summer dagger]

the thing is the fog that would be present would be more akin to a light vow fog

im only removing it because it doesnt render infront of the skybox

so it looks odd

[last ore]

I see

[past mauve]

I had noticed that Deadlock has Flooded and Rainy as possible weathers, are these basically just for decoration given the moon’s layout?

[sonic perch]

wait it does? I thought I set its weather to Clear only, like Noctis

[past mauve]

I use WeatherRegistry and it shows me the allowed weathers on a moon

Wait

It’s actually Dine

No Eclisped is a little weird though imo

[sonic perch]

Kanie progress: about 2/3 done with the meshing so I might actually meet the tomorrow deadline spot on

oh and this doesn't mean I will be releasing Kanie tomorrow, that only means I'm fully done with the terrain part, which lets me start with the greenhouse

[quaint oxide]

looks great the new terrain

[summer dagger]

GREENHOUSE... you say...

oh yeah heres some tree color variants if you want them

spruce (brown and green) and birch (white and yellow)

might make the forest more varied and colorful