#V.E. Scanvan Thread! (and any other of my vehicles)

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humble geyser
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do you know if they can harm you outside the car?

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just confirming i didn't brick the big cat or anything

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ah, i might see why my targetable thing doesn't work

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i'll try address this in 1.1.0

unborn helm
humble geyser
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yeah, okay, i'll defo look into this

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thank you for informing me :)

unborn helm
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Np

unborn helm
humble geyser
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i see

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i think i know why

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should be easy to fix

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if i can make them not target you in the truck if all the doors and windows are shut i think that'd be ideal

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because otherwise they just kinda get stuck on the van

humble geyser
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kay, i might've narrowed down the problem when dcing

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hope n' pray, maybe

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nah, it's just throwing the exact same shit

humble geyser
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kay, i fixed the error, but the player who left is still like, well, stuck to the seat

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iirc this is kind of a vanilla issue

glacial geode
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@humble geyser I have something really funny to show you

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Hold on it's sending

glacial geode
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Idk if it was a bug or what but this shit was frying me

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My mic was broken in this clip but I was laughing my fucking ass off dude how did this even happen 😭

humble geyser
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let me see

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i think thats the geometry of the map

glacial geode
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LOL

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Yeah that makes sense

humble geyser
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the car uses unities wheels which can just freak out if the geometry isnt smooth

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there's nothing inherently wrong with the cars physics, it's sadly not something i could rectify without making an entirely custom wheel collider which is a whole can of worms in its self :(

glacial geode
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I wish my mic didn't do that I was laughing my ass off it was so funny

humble geyser
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might be worth informing demonmae about

glacial geode
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Do they have a Mod Release thread?

glacial geode
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Thank you, I couldn't find it before. I wanted to subscribe to their thread previously

humble geyser
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np!

humble geyser
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i see you finally got up to third

glacial geode
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I've been trying them out. It's a little confusing, but the more I drive this thing, the more sense it'll make. It's reminding me of changing gears on my bicycle. I've never driven before IRL, so that's the closest thing I can compare it to.

humble geyser
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but i am 99% certain

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this vehicle is probably the most stable vehicle physics wise in lc :p

glacial geode
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No I bet it's the geometry of the map. It did look a little funky, and the Scanvan hadn't done nothing like that previously. I've been using it like all day

humble geyser
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not to brag or anything

glacial geode
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No I believe you because you seem to really know what you're talking about and seem intune with IRL car mechanics and how they correlate into a video game.

humble geyser
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it's kind of at the mercy of unities wheels right now

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and unities wheels are quite sensitive to weird geometry

glacial geode
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That was genuinely so funny oh my god

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That was like the last thing I ever expected it to do

humble geyser
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that was pretty funny, at least it didn't kill you lol

glacial geode
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It did a whole fucking flip ☠️

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Yeah

humble geyser
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i do hope demonmae flattens the geometry out a bit

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with a vehicle like this it becomes really noticeable and it can throw the truck around quite a bit

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all the sharp angles in the road and stuff

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and if you aren't using the auto recenter config it can be a bit of a doozy to control lol

glacial geode
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That would be nice. I really appreciate these vehicle moons they made, they're really nice. And they have quite a few other moons that are good for the vehicles in their other moon packs too I play on a bit.

humble geyser
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we played on demonmaes moons today in our play session

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i'm really shocked the scanvan could do any of those super steep inclines

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sure we had to do them in first gear but

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it had the torque

glacial geode
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Yeah LOL

humble geyser
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plus the assist i guess also helps

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we never tried hillstarting on them though

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wonder how that'd go..

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some of the slopes had a sharp angle at the bottom so this van kinda hits against them

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since it's made more for the cruiser which is shorter and stubbier

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but style takes precedent in my books 😎

glacial geode
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Yeah

humble geyser
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but yeah they do be fun anyways

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i kinda hope to see more vehicle moons in the future

glacial geode
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Me too. There's not a ton. I mean I know of quite a few by Demonmae but other than them I don't see many people make vehicle moons.
Poweredmoons does a few good vehicle oriented moons but idk when they'll be updating their mod to v81

humble geyser
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yeah powereds are p good but

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they eat

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my framerate

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so bad

glacial geode
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Oh

humble geyser
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:(

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actively brainstorming how to deal with players that dc in the seats

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zeeks never accounts for this in the vanilla cc

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it looks like he tried to account for it, but it's not sufficient to completely remove the player from the vehicle

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any non used players are owned by host, so i need to get creative

slim quail
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i think power was gonna update but got demotivated

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unfortunate cus they were good maps

glacial geode
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Why?? I liked their moons

slim quail
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irl things if i had to guess

glacial geode
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Oh

slim quail
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also i guess the files for scallg got completely ruined or something cus he took it out of the bundle

humble geyser
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okay, it looks like i can hack together something to handle disconnecting players in the seats

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although it still thinks the seat is occupied

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hrmph

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oh wait i was setting the wrong thing to null

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i don't know why i've been saying 1.1.0 this entire time i meant 1.0.8

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i think i'm dum

flint prawn
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He’s leaking future updates 😱

humble geyser
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okay, it's "kind of working" but it's just spamming rpcs in my console

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sigh

unborn helm
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I don't want to bombard you with bug reports or anything, take this more as a funny clip if you want to (besides its just a mod confict with Code Rebirth and the Blue Dress Lady)

humble geyser
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i had this happen when messing around on oxyde a while back

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it's because she enables some of the zap gun effects

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which just breaks when you're in a vehicle seat, this isn't just specific to my scanvan

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@golden meteor perchance invehicleanimation check?

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and dw about bombarding me with bug reports ^^

fallow perch
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I will bombard you (no bug reports tho)

humble geyser
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bug reports help me catch things i might've missed and polish the car up around the edges

glacial geode
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Woaaahhh old Scanvan alert SapSuckerDAMN

humble geyser
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i did indeed inform xu but i guess she just forgor

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yes very old

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lol

glacial geode
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It's really cool seeing how the dashboard used to look

humble geyser
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the gauge cluster is mostly the same now but i just added numbers to the dials

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and altered the colors

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because this was only going to fly with me for so long lol

glacial geode
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Really? The stick is different and the radio looks decently different. There isn't an AC unit either - at least not the dials

humble geyser
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ohh you mean the actual dash

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sorry thought you meant the gauge cluster

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where the speedometer is

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and stuff

glacial geode
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Yeah haha sorry

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No I meant like all the main features

humble geyser
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this is the first ever gauge cluster i made and it's horrible

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i'm glad i remodelled it

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lol

glacial geode
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Aww that doesn't seem too bad. I like the look of it. But yeah it does look objectively better now

humble geyser
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some more old scanvan stuff

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no third row seating and no enclosed roof

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this shit was a convertible for a long time

glacial geode
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Like if you legit added it like that it honestly would work just fine. That information isn't super important to me anyways when driving so I don't care for it's accuracy too much.

humble geyser
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i vaguely modelled the new one after LDV vans

glacial geode
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Oh

humble geyser
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but it's mostly pretty generic

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fits alot better

glacial geode
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Yeah, that's true

humble geyser
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old horn

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and old alarm

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also older model

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me when the van sounds like a 1970s american landyacht

glacial geode
humble geyser
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i just like having the dials there and seeing them move

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it do read wheel speed but it is indeed lying to you

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the tachometer is kind of accurate

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its a little behind iirc

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but it's mostly accurate

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the van has a redline of like

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5k i think

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since it's meant to be a diesel

glacial geode
humble geyser
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then i fully implemented the heater for lethal elements and i just nuked it

glacial geode
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Omfg is that one of those uh like

humble geyser
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rear view mirror fan

glacial geode
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Shitty little fans

humble geyser
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yes

glacial geode
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Yes

humble geyser
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i loved how dumb they looked

glacial geode
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I love that

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YEAH

humble geyser
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the cabin fan model can be found in beaniebes vehicle hangar (whenever he can update it)

unborn helm
# humble geyser

Personally a big fan of the fans that beam lasers in your eyes so you crash

humble geyser
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on the cruiser models that i gave him

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this was my favourite

glacial geode
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LOL

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That's so extra

humble geyser
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i was giggling hysterically when i laid my eyes upon it

glacial geode
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I love those little fans

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They're so stupid

glacial geode
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Wow, you got the whole fan running with animations and stuff just to remove it?

humble geyser
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it was literally just using .Rotate in SetCarEffects

glacial geode
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I actually like that

humble geyser
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it was literally not that fancy

glacial geode
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Oh, lol

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Yeah I guess so

humble geyser
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and then it had a speed that was interpolated based on if the car was on or off

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which is why it gradually speeds up and down

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i mean i still have the model for it and everything

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it's just not in the current model

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the fan was never originally for this anyways

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it was for the prop in beaniebes vehicle hangar that i put together

glacial geode
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I don't think it'd be worth adding since you already have the AC unit and all that

humble geyser
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yeah exactly

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the heater controls already replaced that

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for the lethal elements compat

glacial geode
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Yeah

humble geyser
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lethal elements is broken right now sadly...

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so for now it's just a noise generator

glacial geode
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What mod is that? The weather mod?

humble geyser
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but so was the fan, so

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yes

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it added blizzard, heatwave etc

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and the heater in my truck could keep you warm in blizzard and safe and protected

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and cool during heatwave

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all the doors and stuff had to be shut ofc

glacial geode
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How does the heater interact with it? Ohhhhh will it like counteract heatwaves and blizards?

humble geyser
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yes

glacial geode
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Yeah wow

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That's actually fucking cool

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I didnt even know you could like

humble geyser
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the fan speed just affects the heat transfer rate

glacial geode
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Do that

humble geyser
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it was kinda easy for the most part

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i just patched some of lethal elements methods

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i just had to account for a bunch of shit so it do get a bit messy

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like i have to account for if the vehicle is parked under shelter outdoors

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n shit

glacial geode
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Yeah

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I'm like

humble geyser
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putting the heater to cold during blizzard would make you freeze very quickly

glacial geode
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So fascinated that it interacts with the weather like that

humble geyser
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and using it during heatwave would make you very hot πŸ”₯

glacial geode
humble geyser
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if you drive on anything tagged with Snow

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i made the tyres a bit more slippery

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it's not near as bad as it once was at some point in time but you will get some extra slip

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so you have to be careful

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this is probably where a manual comes in really handy

glacial geode
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Oh, that's cool

humble geyser
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makes driving on specific moons a bit more engaging greed

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wow this disconnect in seat thing is really fighting me huh

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okay, well, i don't know if i can push an update out in the next ~2 hours since i have college soon

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but, after college i should be able to get an update out the door

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which should fix:

  • disconnecting while seated
  • puma protection not working (hopefully this isn't a pain up the ass to do)
  • eva door alerts playing when they shouldn't
  • probably some other stuff i forgor
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i'm probably also going to update the README to make some stuff more clear

fallow perch
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awesome!

humble geyser
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i'm just hoping the dc while seated "fix" doesn't cause any problems since it do be a bit hacky

glacial geode
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Is Circuit Bee protection possible?

humble geyser
glacial geode
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You're welcome

humble geyser
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i'm wondering what to do in regards to worms

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i might just make them fling the vehicle into the air

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could be funny

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i once tried making them eat vehicles but it just kept softlocking players

humble geyser
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about what i'm envisioning right now

humble geyser
arctic iris
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Honestly from what I've experienced with vanilla and modded LC vehicles, they are 10x more stable and safe than that of Helldivers II

humble geyser
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you should try the scanvan x3

arctic iris
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I have!

humble geyser
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what'dya think?

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you can be honest

arctic iris
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Really took a while to get used to using the clutch

humble geyser
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figures

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i imagine like 99% of people will need a moment to get used to it

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i guess it depends on who you are but i think there can be fun in learning and getting good at something

arctic iris
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I do not drive because I'm from Europe and haven't needed to for the first 21 years of my life.

But yeah no in all honesty it is like learning to drive the cruiser again

humble geyser
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i think for the first two weeks i'm going to have to put learner plates on the scanvan aren't i

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the big ol red L

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maybe the forest giants can take pity on you

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kiddin

humble geyser
arctic iris
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Getting used to shifting the gears between Drive and Reverse (and Park) took a bit to get used to back in the day, combined with the abysmal physics and health related stuff.

humble geyser
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park reverse drive is pretty straight forward haha

arctic iris
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It isn't when you've never been introduced to the concept πŸ₯€

humble geyser
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ah well i guess that's fair

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but even if you know nothing really

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they're like

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labelled clearly

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unlike reverse neutral first second third fourth + using the clutch and modulating your pedal inputs depending on driving situation

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automatic cars are more user friendly for most people

arctic iris
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Shit is literally easy mode.

humble geyser
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pretty much

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i made the manual as like one of the last minute changes to the van

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lol

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i already had the model and some animations but it needed a few more animations and needed implementing ingame

arctic iris
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Oh I did get a chance to check out the v55 cruiser yesterday too (was off work since my allergies where playing up), took it to embion and um err. I made it to main pretty easily, was "lucky" enough to find appy straight off the bat and decided to try my luck.

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We did not make if half way back to the ship . . .

humble geyser
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LMFAOOO

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yeah driving on embrion at like the start of the day on clear is easy

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..it's when the old birds start waking up does it become torture

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as long as you had fun, that's all that matters :)

arctic iris
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coughing cruiser vs 30 nuclear old birds

humble geyser
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old birds not seeing people in cars is something we've been deprived of for so long

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so true

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and i'm really glad i managed to get it working

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because it's just glorious

rough garnet
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driving a bastion in colonies was giga ass 😭

arctic iris
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nudging one of the prop vehicles and getting sent into the stratosphere

humble geyser
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"fixing" old bird los for vehicles might be my greatest achievement and i cant wait to see all the chaos that ensues for people

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the thrill of your friends screaming in the back while trying to navigate through what is essentially a warzone with explosions left right and center, loads of loud crying and assortment of other loud noises is so fucking fun

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and it's something we haven't had for like

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nearly 2 years

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atp

rough garnet
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whats wrong with old birds and the cruiser?

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do they not target it

humble geyser
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only when they're flying but they will just land on you and not aggro

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it's because they look for your transform which gets buried inbetween the vehicles colliders

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baboons have the same issue iirc

rough garnet
arctic iris
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yeah, shit is ass.

humble geyser
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of being terrible

arctic iris
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classic cruiser is way more rewarding to successfully use

humble geyser
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absolutely spot on

arctic iris
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Modern cruiser is just a tank that makes the game easy

humble geyser
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true

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old cruiser is terrible in every way and that's what made it rewarding and fun

arctic iris
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unrelated but @rough garnet vro the first and only timer I did a GATER mission on Oshaun, me and my guys dropped by the vehicle and straight away there where like 3 or so impalers by it. Few seconds later we get the fucking "mission failed" stick after I watched this heavily armoured drilling machine get launched half way across the map and exploding on impact.

rough garnet
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i couldnt care for boost nerfs because i dont use it but durability nerf would be fire haha

arctic iris
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I just realised you are a fellow hollotablianchud

rough garnet
humble geyser
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tea kettle sid from a few nights ago that me and 2 folks got on embrion when using v55 cruiser

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dragging all the kettles out so we didn't lose them was pure chaos and i was last man standing

arctic iris
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Hey Scandal, does lightning damage the Cruiser in vanilla or the v55 recreation?

humble geyser
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in v55 it struck through it because it never checked for vehicle layer

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but it never damaged it ever

arctic iris
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Yeah okay I was gonna say I remember getting smitten when in the back and I assumed it was the cruiser itself exploding, and with modern I had noticed ligning just hits it and does jack shit

humble geyser
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lightning struck through my v55 cruiser?

arctic iris
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pretty sure it did, might be misremembering

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Might have been during the betas

humble geyser
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oh you mean in the actual v55 beta

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i thought you meant on mine

arctic iris
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yar, back in the day

humble geyser
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in v55 lightning just struck through the car yes

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and it could smite you in the back

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in v56 that was fixed

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...kinda

arctic iris
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It bothers me that lightning does not at least deal minor damage to the cruiser.

humble geyser
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i think that would be a bit too mean since if you just put a ton of metal in the back your cruiser would go up in flames extremely quickly

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i think the poor durability of the old cruiser and unwieldy nature is the best method of balance

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especially for something that could trivialize scrap collecting

rough garnet
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please just fix eyeless dogs and old birds...

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im not a huge fan of the boost but i dont use it so idrc

humble geyser
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i just want to see some nerfs to bring it closer to his original vision

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i personally would settle for something like v55 but with hop feature and a few other bits

rough garnet
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fax

humble geyser
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i will still be a bit of a hardcore fan of the original v55 cruiser

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but

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i personally would be more happy

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if we had something like that

rough garnet
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babyface on the radio πŸ‘€

humble geyser
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I also added the unused radio 1 track

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babyface is off by default just incase of the 1 streamer that might use it

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cause it's copyrighted

humble geyser
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random sidenote but in v1.0.8 i think i will reduce the volume of the voice alert slightly on the Scanvan

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since it do be a bit loud

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i may also give it the ability to lower the radio volume and raise the radio volume just like the real cars

golden meteor
humble geyser
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no worries lel

fervent timber
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It was actually a praised decision more than disliked, the main thing I miss is being able to kill Giants with 1 hit if you were driving fast enough

humble geyser
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I obviously dislike it, if you couldn't already tell, because having a nearly indestructible tank on four wheels that transports an infinite amount of scrap at a time, and can also fly, completely strips any lick of skill out of the car and does not fit into lethal company.

The cruiser was never meant to be this all powerful game changing piece of equipment you could buy for a pretty cheap price, making it fragile, clunky and hard to control is such a good counter balance when it has the potential to trivialize gameplay.

glacial geode
humble geyser
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Because he nerfed it slightly on v80

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But it's still a mostly indestructible tank

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The people that praise changes like the v70 buffs just do not "get" the company cruiser :p

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Those people also just.. I don't know.. I don't know how to put it. I guess for one they just don't understand the cruiser is fundamentally meant to be terrible for starts, but also, I guess they'd rather just have things easier, maybe because the cruiser completely trivializes scrap collection and it means they can just hoard shit tons of loot in one go

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I guess those people just don't appreciate the art of learning how to use something properly to get good use out of that something :p

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Sorry if this is a bit poorly worded I'm typing on my.phone and I'm tired

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The cruiser just feels so overly numb and boring to use right now, there's no sense of vulnerability and you know you can just overpower 99 percent of things in your path without consequence

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The skill factor has also kinda been tossed out the window

glacial geode
# humble geyser Those people also just.. I don't know.. I don't know how to put it. I guess for ...

What is the difference between the v55 Cruiser and now the v81 Cruiser? I didn't know there were a ton of changes.
This sounds like it sucks, though, from what you're describing. I completely agree with everything you're saying.
I enjoy the fact that the vehicles in Lethal Company are really unintuitive and are a literal learning process.

You can't just hop in and drive. You have to sit with it, familiarize yourself with it. Spend time and care actually learning it's nuiances. It's why the Scanvan is growing on me. It's fucking complex, difficult, but that learning process is very much enjoyable to me. I yearn for that in a vehicle mod and you delivered on that front perfectly for me.

rough garnet
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don’t quote me tho i could js be lying haha

humble geyser
# glacial geode Alright, thank you <3

i'll just give a brief timeline that should explain stuff:

v55 release: car was extremely fragile, fast collisions were insta death for seated players, items didnt count as collected
v56: added weedkiller boost ability and ability to heal car using weedkiller, items in the car count as safe in orbit, the insta death was turned down to damage the player, the car was made slightly more durable and traction was reduced to make it a bit more stable
v70: most sources of damage removed making it nearly indestructible, car has a self uprighting feature, self regen buffed a fuck ton, car has a short boost after hitting the gas after changing gears, enemies such as dogs dont damage it anymore
v80/v81: minor nerf by adding small bump collision damage (you have to be going slow anyways) and self regen nerfed slightly

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in v70 i guess there was also the "nerf" that the car wont instakill large enemies at fast velocities anymore

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and it was turned down to do 12 max damage

rough garnet
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you can’t run over the fox in v80 as well right?

willow charm
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Oh, so thats why ive never had issues with dogs lmao

humble geyser
willow charm
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I really wish someone would have a look at the damage model of the car though. Its really inconsistent

glacial geode
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WEEDKILLER HEALS THE FUCKING VEHICLES?????!?!?!!???

humble geyser
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and in v56 he made small enemies unkillable

glacial geode
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OMG

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How did I not know this

humble geyser
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its also used for the boost ability

glacial geode
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I thought it only activated the boost

humble geyser
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nah it do heal

willow charm
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first it heals, and at max health it adds boost

humble geyser
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the only way to heal the car fully in v55 was taking it into orbit

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this is still a feature but yh

rough garnet
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let old birds, dogs and baboon hawks target/damage the car right and make scrap only save if you have it in the back of the van πŸ™‚β€β†•οΈ

humble geyser
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i liked that if you fucked it up halfway through the run you'd have to try and delicately drive a ticking timebomb back

humble geyser
glacial geode
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I'm genuinely surprised dogs don't damage the Cruiser??? Like, you're ramming into a massive creature. When people hit shit like moose and stuff IRL your vehicle is totaled, and moose are a lot less beefy than an Eyeless Dog

humble geyser
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i made it so that if the player collider it detects is in a vehicle animation, then it sees through the vehicle layer

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this doesn't sacrifice los blocking for non seated players

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but it do allow them to see you at all times when seated in a car as if the car was invisible

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which i'm okay with

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works well for my v55 mod (feels more authentic) and makes them more of a threat

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otherwise you could just face the back of the car to them and be fine

humble geyser
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but as of v70 they do not

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the old bird los stuff is actually part of my scandals tweaks mod, you don't even need the v55 cruiser or scanvan to have this feature

glacial geode
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Is your v55 Cruiser mod compatible with the Scanvan? I want to revert to the old Cruiser

humble geyser
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just don't use any mods like cruiserimproved with the v55 cruiser

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because, well, i'm sure you can figure out why that wouldn't work

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it's an entire model replacement with its own controller

glacial geode
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I assume this mod is compatible

humble geyser
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radiobabyface doesn't work on my v55 cruiser but i have my own implementation

glacial geode
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Oh

humble geyser
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it won't cause errors but the reason it won't work is because

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it adds the song to the radio

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and then my mod replaces the prefab with the updated model

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which doesn't have the song that butterys mod adds

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so you don't need radio baby face if you're using v55 cruiser but it won't break anything

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you just need to enable it through the config

glacial geode
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Thank you for letting me know, I'm glad I asked. I didn't think something like that would cause issues

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So just enable Babyface via your mod in the config?

humble geyser
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it doesn't really cause issues its just that my model overrides the original cruiser prefab after butterys mod adds babyface to the radio

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yes

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these are the only 3 configs i added

glacial geode
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Alright, thank you <3

humble geyser
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right hand drive is my own gimmick and it only works if true-v55 is off

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just adds a random chance for the car to be right hand drive

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because i can

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true v55 unfixes some stuff to be more like v55, otherwise if it's off it's like a "slightly more polished and slightly less buggy v55"

willow charm
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what about v56 cruiser?

humble geyser
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this is a v55 mod

willow charm
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but what about v56 cruiser?

humble geyser
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never (maybe)

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idk i don't think i'm interested in making a v56 cruiser

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i had code in the v55 cruiser that would enable some v56 stuff but

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it's unused

humble geyser
glacial geode
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Is the turbo boost not a feature in the v55 Cruiser? I don't really care about it - I never use it. But I know that it's important to people who break this game apart.

humble geyser
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v55 never had this ability

glacial geode
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That's interesting.

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The turbo boost is a cool mechanic but man it like

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Ruined the Cruiser

humble geyser
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you couldn't hop the car either

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lol

glacial geode
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OMG WAIT I remember that

humble geyser
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you gotta get out and use the push prompts like some sort of freak!!!

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the engine bay in v55

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no boost bar

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cant be healed with weed

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vee 56

glacial geode
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Does going into orbit completely heal it?

humble geyser
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yes

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just like in v55

glacial geode
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Oh alright that's nice

humble geyser
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my goal with the v55 cruiser is to try be as authentic as i see fit

glacial geode
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Yeah

humble geyser
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disabling true v55 will just fix some issues like the suspension and steering and make it a little more stable but still be awful to use overall

glacial geode
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It can't be that bad

humble geyser
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i only added this as a config since i was trying to answer the question of "did the jank also make the v55 experience"

humble geyser
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the broken steering is just the usual desynced wheel

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the "non true v55" steering matches the front wheels to the steering wheel directly which makes it feel "heavier to steer" but i guess that fits thematically with the truck

glacial geode
#

I'm gonna try it out once I configure Lunarconfig on my modpack. Someone just told me about it yesterday so I can force-set interiors on specific moons (So I don't get shit like a manor on a moon that's supposed to be industrial. Or an industrial interior on a moon that's supposed to be a Manor.)

humble geyser
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oh yeah i also raised the price back to 400

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in v56 it was reduced to 370

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and its been that since

humble geyser
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make sure to drag all loot out the trunk and take it into the ship before going into space

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don't want to lose it all now do we greed

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gotta use teamwork if you have a buncha items

glacial geode
#

I already do that. My boyfriend is always confused but I just like to have everything inside the ship LOL

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He doesn't understand why I do it when it already counts when we put the vehicle on the magnet

humble geyser
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with the v55 car it is a requirement so you don't lose everything but that's fair lol

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item collection is a thing that "makes sense" but it changes so much about cruiser gameplay

glacial geode
#

I actually was glazing the hell out of the little step on the rear of the Scanvan because it meant I could put the vehicle on the magnet before taking everything out

humble geyser
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whereas before you might of had to set off a bit earlier to drive back, then drag everything out and put it into the shp

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ship*

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with the current day cruiser you can just

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put it on the magnet

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and boom

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everythings safe

glacial geode
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Yeah I like didn't understand why that was a feature?

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It seems a little

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Lazy

humble geyser
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it was suggested as a way to make the car "more viable"

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it makes sense to an extent but like, items on the roof also count as safe...

glacial geode
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Wtf

humble geyser
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and buttery made a good point that items on ship railing aren't safe, so why should items on the roof of the car be safe

glacial geode
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YEAH that's true

humble geyser
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putting items on the roof of the car was also heavily abused as it used to break baboon ai

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and it prevented baboons from grabbing loot

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i don't think it breaks them anymore but i have not confirmed this

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oh yeah another thing i forgot about in my "timeline"

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as of v70

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trees dont damage the car

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at all

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pre v70 the car hitting a tree was dealt 1 damage

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i do indeed bring this back

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but i account for snowmen since he made them breakable too with the same script

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snowmen will not damage it

glacial geode
#

Why do so many hazards not damage the Cruiser?

humble geyser
glacial geode
#

I didn't even really pay attention until you mentioned it

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I've ran over countless dogs and had no damage dealt

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And killed them

humble geyser
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in present day cruiser?

glacial geode
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Or running into trees all the time doesn't ever really do anything

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Yeah

humble geyser
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because any enemies under or equal to a certain size as of v70 are just not allowed to deal damage to the car

glacial geode
#

That kind of sucks

humble geyser
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zeeks intentionally removed dealing damage from hitting trees

fallow perch
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Hey scandal you think I could parallel park using the same methods used irl

glacial geode
#

Is there a way to disable the Upturned phone call song and the other song added to the v55 Cruiser radio?

arctic iris
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don;t think you can with the other one currently

glacial geode
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No I want Baby Face, but not the other two.

glacial geode
static horizon
static horizon
static horizon
willow charm
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I guess that explains why they are in the files

glacial geode
#

Yeah

arctic iris
static horizon
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is the model different literally just because of the boost thingy or

arctic iris
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yeah

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And the clipboard was modified to reference the weed killer on the final page

static horizon
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Makes sense

humble geyser
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i just added that one for fun, but i s'pose i can add a config for it or smth

humble geyser
humble geyser
glacial geode
#

How did you get that song? That's actually a really interesting piece of LC media I've never seen preserved or even mentioned before

humble geyser
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which is why it it's not lost in the ripped files

glacial geode
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Ooooohhhhhh

humble geyser
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someone did also upload it to youtube

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the song is literally just called Radio1

glacial geode
#

How did you even know that?? That's so fascinating to me!

humble geyser
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and it was Radio1

glacial geode
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I knew about red pill but not the radio song or the fact red pill plays that song very low pitched

static horizon
humble geyser
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i never mentioned it but one of my other ideas for the v55 cruiser was that it would have elements of "pre-release" cruiser as well, as a config maybe

static horizon
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I found it on the website I use for getting LC audio files without needing to open unity

humble geyser
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so i.e. no eject button, no cabin light, (maybe blue tinted headlight pattern like in that video?)

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i wish i had the clean texture for the cc like in that video but sadly i do not

humble geyser
glacial geode
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It's alright haha just bugged me slightly. The songs clashed with the 1920's to 1930's music

humble geyser
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understandable

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i will push an update for it ASAP

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and then i can try and finish up the scramvans update

glacial geode
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Alright, thank you. I actually like this v55 cruiser a lot

humble geyser
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i'm surprised literally anyone but me likes it lmfaoo

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it's the epitome of "bullshit" but i do think its alot of fun and i'd like for everyone to be able to experience the cruiser like the day it came out

glacial geode
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I love janky shit 😭

humble geyser
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its a very different experience from modern day cruiser as well imo

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like i also fixed giants not being able to grab you out the cab and shit

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i did add enemy protection but only for the back specifically

glacial geode
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That's good

humble geyser
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so it's not "fully authentic", i guess it's more "v55 if it worked properly"

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with only some intentional jank left as a config as it does make the truck more unwieldy

glacial geode
#

Are you in charge of reworking and esentially maintaining the Hauler mod for v81? Or is Glojam going to be working on updating the original mod to v81, and your rework is a separate project?

humble geyser
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the rework will replace the original

glacial geode
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Ooohh, alright.

static horizon
humble geyser
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i don't even remember why

static horizon
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oooh sorry I was too scrolled down

humble geyser
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i just thought "why not"

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no worries

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i am actively rebuilding the bundle w/o it :p

static horizon
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I like it for the boombox tbh I like that buttery added it in upturned variety

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but for cruiser yeah it's better to not have it I thinkk

glacial geode
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^^ Yeah it would fit the boombox way more than the Cruiser LOL

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Oh it's included in Upturned Variety? I didn't even notice. I never really use the boombox

humble geyser
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it's not

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that's a diff song

glacial geode
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Oh I was about to say yeah I thought it was a different one lol

humble geyser
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unrelated but i might add this as an alternate door alert on the scramblevan

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one of the most like, "iconic" eva alert noises

glacial geode
#

☠️

humble geyser
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from the older 11func noises

glacial geode
#

Please add that it would be really funny

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It sucks I don't hear the EVA alerts really anymore now that I got used to using the Scanvan TulipSad

humble geyser
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for the most part i guess that makes sense, they aren't just meant to randomly play for no reason

glacial geode
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My friends think it's annoying but I think it's really charming and cute for the vehicle to have an automated voice system like that.

humble geyser
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though i did consider adding some

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oh yeah i need to lower the volume of it slightly

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i can see why people find it annoying but i enjoy it

glacial geode
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Yeah haha I love the voice <3

humble geyser
# humble geyser though i did consider adding some

https://youtu.be/Y7T_ph61pxw?t=71 like this one (timestamp)

In this Video you will hear every voice line that you can find on the EVA 24 Function Unit.

The Audio was recorded directly from the amplifier on the circuit board.

Unlike other people I decided to share these ancient recordings with the world instead of keeping them on my hard drive :D

So now you can transform your car into a talking one.

β–Ά Play video
glacial geode
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For weedkiller? (Does the Scanvan use Weedkiller? I haven't tried.)

humble geyser
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it does have weedkiller ability but yes weedkiller is one idea i had for the washer fluid lol

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just as something you could top up to make it shut up about it

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for a while

glacial geode
#

Lol

flint prawn
humble geyser
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ajar = slightly open

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lol

static horizon
#

im p sure it's the same one

static horizon
#

yeah I can hear it in the vid lol

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but I feel like that's just the same one from upturned variety lol

humble geyser
flint prawn
static horizon
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OH wait yeah I just looked it up it's a diff one

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I mixed it up cuz I used to use that website I mentioned for listening to that song specifically

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fsr

humble geyser
#

i'm just going to go over some of the v55 cruisers enemy protection and add uh, protection against pumas i guess

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okay, going to test it first before i push an update for it!

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nice i believe the scanvan is like

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breaking shit rn

humble geyser
#

just need to test if my dc while seated fix also works for this vehicle too

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i might turn it into its own seperate script so i dont need to keep copy pasting it to each vehicle

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and that way only my vehicle seats have that code

humble geyser
#

maybe

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visibility is a little on the "poor" side since it's a big van

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but you can probably parallel park it using irl methods

fallow perch
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let's freaking go

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my driving teacher told me on vans and pickup trucks I can align the back wheel with the rear bumper of the other car, then do a 30 degree turn while going backwards and then go straight and then when the mirror is aligned I can turn again while going back

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I will most definitely try it out when parking next time LOL

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who even needs to finish their driving tests when you can drive the scanvan ❀️

humble geyser
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learning to drive in letal compam,ny

glacial geode
#

Thank you Scanvan for teaching us to drive manul Whimsy ... I mean manual

humble geyser
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i don't know why

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i keep getting a nullref despite null checking everything

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oh, i see

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yup, fixed it

humble geyser
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Radio1 is staying though since it's a piece of "pre-release-cruiser"

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i wish i had access to early builds of v55 before release

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i would love to compare differences

glacial geode
#

EVA VOICE I MISS YOU

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I'm so sorry for complying so nicely πŸ’”

humble geyser
#

just leave your keys in the ignition or start randomly opening doors and it'll start talkin' again

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the eva voice annoyance becomes essentially null and void when you start complying

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lol

glacial geode
#

I love that it would bark at me for leaving the HEADLIGHTS on

humble geyser
#

yes lol

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they did do that irl

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same for the keys

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i guess it gives a reason to use the headlights

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since for the most part no one ever switches them

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ever

glacial geode
#

Then I started to toggle the headlights off before I got out and take the key out and now I just comply with everything so I never hear the voice TulipSad

humble geyser
#

on older 11 func evas it said "Don't forget your keys" followed by the long beeps

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and instead of headlamps it said headlights

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wording changed between the 11 and 24 function

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24 function had a-lot more alerts tho

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ofc

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like brake pads, checking headlamps, brake fluid level etc

humble geyser
#

just don't leave your keys in, turn your lights off, close your doors, and you'll be a-okay

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at one point i did have a "battery system" where not having the engine running and leaving the headlamps on and stuff would drain the battery but

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i cut that feature

humble geyser
#

adding red locust bee protection right now

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i have also made the eva a bit quieter, finally

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shouldn't be as overbearingly loud now

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very close to updating the scanvan ^^ going to run one final test

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bee protection do work indeed

#

1.0.8 Of the Scanvan is released!

  • Puma protection fix (maybe..)
  • Bee protection
  • Fixed dc'ing while seated causing softlocks
  • Adjusted hints, added a hint for when the car is stalled for the first time
  • Adjusted readme to include the default controls
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And i accidentally left the ver as 1.0.7, fuck

fallow perch
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let's flipping go Brah

humble geyser
#

car should still have all the new stuff

humble geyser
#

and lowered the eva volume

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forgor to mention that

fallow perch
#

oh yeah I had something happen to me with lightning
I had a key in my inventory and when lightning struck it killed me and my friend, is it supposed to do that or is it supposed to protect you? I figured nothing bad would happen since there is a roof on top of me lol

fallow perch
#

Yea

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drivin

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my friend was in the passenger seat

humble geyser
#

i don't think there's much i can do because of how lightning works

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it calls a Landmine explosion which is just a nightmare of spaghetti to try and figure out

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i tried adding protection but

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i guess it isn't working?

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Oh

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Wait

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I forgor i removed that patch

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πŸ’€

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i'll look into it

fallow perch
#

thanks!!

humble geyser
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i had a hacky patch thrown together that should fix this

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1.1.0 coming up.. soon..

humble geyser
#

yup seems like this works

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1.1.0 Released

  • no more lightning ganking you through the car
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any issues let me knowww ^^

fallow perch
#

awesome!!

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I told my friend you fixed it and he wants to let you know you are very cool for making this mod

humble geyser
#

i think after college i'll look into fixing items going through the seats and into the abyssal void that is "shit you dropped under the car seats never to see again"

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and i'll also look into making items on the roofrack save

glacial geode
# fallow perch oh yeah I had something happen to me with lightning I had a key in my inventory ...

Uhhhh. Yeah idk if there is a fix for this. Buuuut. What I do when driving the Scanvan during stormy weather, is I put everything metallic in the back. Actually I just put everything back there during a storm. Keys, flashlight, scrap, utilities.

I've driven twice during stormy weather, having multiple lightning strikes hit the Scanvan, and not once did I die.

It's most likely cause the key was directly in your inventory so it struck your player directly instead of the Scanvan.
Just put everything in the back if it's stormy, and you should be safe <3

I hope this helps!!

humble geyser
glacial geode
#

Oh, damn alright.

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They must have just got unlucky then

humble geyser
#

it can happen in vanilla with the rear compartment too it's just rare due to the height of the rear box area

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I think sometimes the explosion check would leak into the cab and that's why it did damage

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So now it's coded that if you're in the truck it cannot do damage to you

glacial geode
#

That's good <3

humble geyser
#

it was cuz I was consolidating some stuff and forgot that I removed that patch lol

#

Obviously didn't mean to

glacial geode
#

Yeah

rugged copper
rugged copper
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nah hold on

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1.0.6

humble geyser
#

1.1.0 should fix this

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okay yeah that's why

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lol

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i readded the lightning patch i accidentally nuked back into 1.1.0

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so you shouldn't die in the cab or storage compartment

rugged copper
#

this, is good news
we can finally bee bees-

#

but anyway, steering with this car is hella difficult PikaHoldIN

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but I love the design either way

humble geyser
#

another thing i did was, the steering wheel has a full steering rotation like a real car

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and the front wheels match the steering wheel but they have a curve

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the first few turns have the most effect

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and it tapers off towards the end

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there's an auto center config, if it helps

rugged copper
#

but does the car really need to be reignited every time it stops? πŸ₯Ί

humble geyser
#

you're stalling it

#

a real manual car would also do the same thing

rugged copper
#

you may be right

glacial geode
humble geyser
rugged copper
humble geyser
#

sometimes the lightning strike "leaks into the cab" and can kill you

rugged copper
#

and it's not just the car

humble geyser
glacial geode
#

But it seemed like it was due to the lightning striking the player and not the cab. The player was holding an item that could become conductive. I've never been struck - but the people who report being struck were holding a conductive item.

humble geyser
# rugged copper you may be right

when you're not in neutral and you just slam on the brakes, the brakes overpower the engine, the wheels lock up and the gearbox, which is still actively connected to the engine with the clutch not pressed, cant turn the wheels so it just locks up and dies

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if i did this in my irl car it would do the same greed

rugged copper
#

I'm glad it doesn't replace the cruiser entirely, as my friend already was sick of starting up the car and had to order normal cruiser

rugged copper
humble geyser
#

starting the car is basically the same procedure as the normal one

rugged copper
#

my autistic ass won't be able to comprehend manual shit

humble geyser
#

i am autistic too

rugged copper
humble geyser
#

the brakes work the same

rugged copper
#

normal one's automatic

humble geyser
#

i'm just saying that when you slam on the brakes it locks up the wheels because there's no ABS

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which can very quickly result in a stall because of how a manual works

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if you feather the brakes to just slow down a bit it'll be fine

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if you lock them up for too long it can stall

humble geyser
#

you can either take the time to try and learn it or just not use it, i suppose

glacial geode
#

Installing the v55 Cruiser mod Scandal made makes the Scanvan feel incredibly balanced.
Not being able to jump or heal the Cruiser makes taking the Scanvan more viable if the terrain is a little more tricky. But the Cruiser costs slightly less, and is much easier to drive than the Scanvan is (despite the Scanvan only being slightly more expensive than the Cruiser).
They kind of compliment each other because both have strengths and weaknesses. Where as if I ordered the v81 Cruiser it just would feel better than the Scanvan in every way. Especially since it can literally count items into the ship when put on the magnet, and tons of other shit.

humble geyser
#

the v81 cruiser is just so broken in terms of balance

#

lol

rugged copper
#

it do feels faster if used properly

#

I love speed

humble geyser
#

the vanilla cruiser?

glacial geode
#

Slow and steady wins the race

rugged copper
humble geyser
#

ah, yeah

#

mine has a simulated drivetrain system with gears and gear ratios

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the top speed is dependant on the gear ratios and final drive

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the vanilla cruiser just applies torque consistently in drive up until a certain number at a fixed rate

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side note: i think zeekerss would of absolutely made the cruiser more realistic if he knew what he was doing

rugged copper
humble geyser
#

even just variables like MinEngineRPM and MaxEngineRPM speak to me that he wanted to make it more realistic

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since the cruiser never simulates any form of drivetrain or engine rn

glacial geode
#

Would you ever consider bringing these ideas to life in the future in another Cruiser mod?

humble geyser
#

my scanvan already utilises these variables

glacial geode
#

Oooh

#

Yeah I see

humble geyser
#

MaxEngineRPM is the redline

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MinEngineRPM is the idle rpm

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the scanvan redlines at 5k rpm

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and idles at like

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800

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the cruiser has the minenginerpm set to 1000 and maxenginerpm to 3000 but they're never used

rugged copper
#

I don't understand nerd language, so in big tldr; I just say

#

either way, good mod 😐 πŸ‘

#

me like

humble geyser
#

for example on my scanvan if you look at the gauge cluster

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the middle needle is the engine speed

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if you use the gas in neutral you'll see it "rev up"

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alongside hearing the engine rev up

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when you let go of the gas it goes down but not to 0

#

to the minenginerpm (idle rpm)

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the numbers on the dials for the tachometer are multiplied by 1000

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which is what the "x1000r/min" is

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rpm is just revolutions per minute

#

pretty fast shit

prime canyon
#

wow this is even more realistic than i thought

fallow perch
#

had a great time on lethal with the scanvan today, no problems at all

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maybe sometimes when a friend hopped on the hood and the car started "hitting" them

#

car collisions with something but no damage is applied

humble geyser
#

i think i know how to fix this

fallow perch
#

by the way I would love (I know it'd be very hard to do) a mod that added a second magnet and would let you have a cruiser and a scanvan (or 2 of those)

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I thought of that because of when I had the scanvan but then I saw the cruiser in the store and was like
hmmm... cruiser.... and scanvan.... πŸ’‘

humble geyser
fallow perch
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orConvert the cruiser!!! hahahah

humble geyser
#

DawnLib allows secondary "magnets" and shit

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but it uses its own VehicleBase script that you use

fallow perch
#

is it different in a good or bad wway ??

humble geyser
#

good

fallow perch
#

did it come out too late into dev??

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dawnlibs vehiclebase

humble geyser
#

right now because my van inherits vehiclecontroller (same script as cruiser) spawning two vehicles with vehiclecontroller's would cause a buncha issues

#

not really its just i havent gotten round to it yet

fallow perch
#

oh it's on your plans?? huh!!

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Nice

#

is it very different from VehicleController

humble geyser
#

yes, it's completely barebones, which is nice as you don't need to inherit all of the cruisers garbage code and methods

fallow perch
#

I'm assuming that means changing a bunch of code?

humble geyser
#

nah it just means transferring all my code + the code that i need from the cruiser onto dawnlibs vehiclebase and then reassigning everything in editor

fallow perch
#

oh! that doesn't sound as hard as I thought

#

I always assume the worst lol

humble geyser
#

i just haven't played around with the station stuff yet "aka second magnet"

fallow perch
#

Everytime I play this mod it makes me want to learn C# even more

#

you got this scandal

humble geyser
#

storage light?

rugged copper
humble geyser
#

wow okay uh, that doesn't, look great

#

kay, it needs more intensity

humble geyser
#

i'm just thinking about the "hint" display messages and i don't think they're ideal, so i'm thinking of two things:

A. rewrite a part of the manual to include stuff about the clutch (probably the best, maybe on the last blank page)
B. add a config to turn the hints off forever

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the gear-stick does explain some stuff about the clutch but it doesn't explain like, setting off and shit

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i think the gear stick section is ifne as is, so i think a dedicated "clutch" section would be good

humble geyser
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for now the hints will suffice for people, but after i redo the manual section i will remove the hints entirely

humble geyser
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it's a bit better.. but i don't know how much i actually like this

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i will continue working on this after college ^^

humble geyser
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for now, the service manual has been updated and the hints removed ^^

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feedback is appreciated ^^

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and i forgot to update the readme, urgh, whatever, i'll fix it when i have a reason to actually push another update for it

glacial geode
glacial geode
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I apologize, I didn't mean to ping you twice for the same message.

fallow perch
humble geyser
humble geyser
willow charm
glacial geode
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^^ Something like this yeah. Try experimenting a little more, when you have the chance <3

humble geyser
mint warren
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@humble geyser you wish you could make something like this

fallow perch
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Scandal is in shambles right now

rugged copper
humble geyser
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true..

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lol, i should probably remove the leftover shift triggers from the old auto-box

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they cause a bunch of warning logs on ownership transfer

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this is harmless but it do be kinda annoying when it clutters logs

glacial geode
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noooo keep them in πŸ’” i love the log clutter

humble geyser
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plus i'm probably never reimplementing the automatic gearbox

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though i'll probably just keep the assets aside incase i want to implement it again in some other form

humble geyser
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going to be updating the ignition key model + using the animator i had instead of the spaghetti transform code

fallow perch
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Nice!

humble geyser
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so it looks like the EVA just completely mutes the radio irl (on 11 funcs atleast.. idk about 24 funcs)

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and then when it's done speaking it unmutes the radio

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apparently pulling the fuse out for the EVA would cause the fuel gauge and shit to go out lol

glacial geode
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Lol

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EVA Crashout

humble geyser
humble geyser
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1.1.2 - Scblamblenvan

Updated ignition key animation + model
Increased EVA volume slightly, the EVA can also mute the radio while it's speaking
Removed unused shift triggers that clogged up the logs with warnings on ownership transfer

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any probl ems lmk ^^

fallow perch
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yay! more scanvan

humble geyser
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ah, right, okay, i forgot to set the ignition animation when it stalls

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i was going to push 1.1.3 as a hotfix for this but of course thunderstore is like, dying right now

glacial geode
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What's wrong with Thunderstore right now?

humble geyser
humble geyser
slim quail
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every time u mention EVA i know its because of the voice assistant in the scanvan but my brain defaults to evangelion

rain dragon
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Hey, is this a good place to provide feedback for this mod? As well suggestions?

rain dragon
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Ok I'll keep very brief. Just also add that I REALLY like this mod. It kinda reminds me when I first learned driving stick. And it just fun and interactive as well.

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  1. Add a noise for when the car stalls, I know the noise cuts out for when it's stall and the dash goes dead. But a better audio for when it stalls would add a lot of characteristics to it and tell people who aren't aware that the car has stalled

  2. My own complaint is that the car feels like it drives on ice and it slides a lot at high speed. I like the way the regular cruiser feels with the "Bettervehiclecontrols" mod. I guess it's what I'm saying it needs a bit more traction? Cause I often find myself over correcting the turns I make.

  3. This point is more so of a personal want. But I wanted to know if you planned on adding a config option for a free scanvan daily that comes attached to your ship much like the mod "cruisercourier".

4.I'm unsure if it works from the mod itself but add a magnet hotkey that functions exactly like the "bettervehiclecontrols" that magnetize the vehicle to the magnet.

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If you need me to clear up what I'm saying in any of these and let me know and I'll try to elaborate better when I'm home.

swift condor
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hey scandal, i had an idea for the scanvan

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or just cars in general

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the ability to hide under the cars when theres something nearby

fallow perch
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I'm all for visual/audio feedback

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like the clutch

glacial geode
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@humble geyser Could I have the original audio files for the Scanvan radio songs so that I can upload a video archiving them? I heard some of the Hauler songs (which I love) but also many new ones

fallow perch
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Hey @humble geyser I found a bug
Was trying out using a controller on the Scanvan and it keeps turning left on any steering input

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If I try to turn right, it goes left

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Also, if it is possible and you have time, could you figure out how to set up analog inputs on controller? For the steering and pedals

humble geyser
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I don't have a controller so it's kinda of difficult for me to test on my end

humble geyser
humble geyser
# rain dragon 1. Add a noise for when the car stalls, I know the noise cuts out for when it's ...
  1. This is something I'd like to do!

  2. The car does not have bad traction (infact, the opposite, it actually has really good traction) However, the steering has "smoothened inputs" so the steering wheel keeps moving a little after releasing the input keys, if it helps you can enable the auto-centering config I added, just like BVC has for the vanilla CC.

    • Another thing with BVC is that it completely nukes 2/3s of the steering wheels animation (to "fix" the desync in vanilla) which means you "don't need to turn as much" to turn where you want (the front wheels reach full lock at this angle in vanilla). I don't do this as that's lame, my steering wheel has a full 900 degrees of rotation like a real car, but I also added a "curve" to the front wheels which means the first few turns of the steering wheel have greater effect on how much the front tyres turn, and it tapers off towards the end (also like a real car to an extent with rack-n-pinion steering. This is one of those things that you'll need to just get used to
  3. I'll.. I never thought about this, I'll have to think about it, maybe a seperate submod or something

  4. I got asked about this, but I'm not sure if I'm personally interested in this, ages ago I did have an idea for one of those remote gate openers (like we had at our old flat) that hangs from the rear view mirror, but for the magnet instead, but nothing ever came of it

fallow perch
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I didn't touch steer though

humble geyser
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Ah, okay, I see the issue

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I can look into this but I'm not too sure how to go about it

fallow perch
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Take your time

humble geyser
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I may just add seperate binds for controller stuff

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We'll see

fallow perch
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Could it be possible you map positions of the left stick to wheel positions instead of speed? When using center wheel

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I may be asking for too much

humble geyser
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I'm not sure how to "grab" the position of the stick is the issue lol

fallow perch
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Isn't it from -1 to 1?

humble geyser
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probably

fallow perch
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Oh okay I see

humble geyser
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i'll read into InputUtils since that's what i use

fallow perch
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I'm gonna go sleep
See ya! Good luck

humble geyser
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Cyas!

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What I might do for controllers is remove the steering keybinds all-together and use the vanilla moveInputVector (kind of assuming that this will work for controller sticks)

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idk, i'll have to look into it

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would probably help if i had a darn controller

humble geyser
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but cars do block LOS

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^ stalling SFX

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may also use this for an engine shutoff sfx

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oh yeah, I might add the ability to "grenade the engine" by shifting to too low of a gear for the speed

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it'll have a timer of course it won't be instant

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my idea is that the van goes into a limp mode

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I don't want it to be entirely unusable

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I just want consequence for doing something like this

humble geyser
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i'm thinking of adding a knocking noise at low engine health

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maybe a little quieter but yh

glacial geode
humble geyser
rain dragon
humble geyser
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limp mode and rodknock

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and maybe can't be healed beyond a certain hp (unless taken into orbit?)

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we'll see

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that might be too mean

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i want it to still be useable but i don't want people to just get off scott free for doing something like this

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but i don't want it to feel too unfair

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maybe the exhaust will just start gushing out big blue plumes of smoke as well lol

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i could just damage the car in the same sense driving in park does in vanilla

rain dragon
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I getcha. Maybe you could add two different types of modes of difficulty for that situation in general? An "expert mode" for people who know how it works and it could be tighter timing, along with is own consequences.
and "base mode" in which it is RN?

humble geyser
rain dragon
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I don't know the reality of coding these things so I'm just spewing things ideals it

humble geyser
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which rubs me the wrong

rain dragon
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Yeah! I did. When I get home tonight I'll miss with the settings and feel the differences

humble geyser
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the only setting pertaining to steering is the auto centering config i added

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otherwise, steering this car is just something you get used to

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since "it's like vanilla" but it's also not

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if it helps you can also look at how much the tyres are rotated based on where you position the steering wheel

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so you can see how much of an effect your steering input has

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my tyres are indeed not broken like vanilla ^^

glacial geode
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Flat tyres πŸ’”

humble geyser
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lol i don't mean that

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i mean the wheels and tyres don't match each other

glacial geode
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Tyre puncturing mechanic would be insane

humble geyser
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in vanilla you can have tyres pointing visually right but the car goes straight

glacial geode
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I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

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THAT BUGS ME SO BAD

humble geyser
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same for my v55 cruiser but.. we don't speak about that

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if you disable true-v55 mode on my v55 car it fixes this

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and also fixes the suspension so it's not a jittery mess

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the car is still an unwieldy pile of garbage

humble geyser
glacial geode
humble geyser
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it was like the first thing i fixed when i begun working on the scanvan

humble geyser
glacial geode
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πŸ₯€

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Stop you're so mean

humble geyser
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my v55 cruiser is terrible and i love it

glacial geode
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Yeah I love it too

humble geyser