and really quick for the time
#V.E. Scanvan Thread! (and any other of my vehicles)
humble geyser
visual nest
Ik ik, but i mean in game
visual nest
Ok
humble geyser
needs a ton of other work before that
visual nest
But srsly. I personally am not a fan of mods that add voicelines. But ik a lot of people like them too. So maybe make it optional
humble geyser
it won't be optional
it's based on a real system
i'll get a video for you demonstrating what it's like
older video but
good example
except the radio blaring
and making it impossible to hear
visual nest
Ok. I do think it should be optional. Like have an option for it just to beep instead.
Btw, any chance ur gonna add something in the passenger seat to maybe make the passenger have a use?
humble geyser
i'll see, if anything i would make it a random chance but i know alot of people may want it, one thing i know i'll add is a config to change the volume of it
humble geyser
Btw, any chance ur gonna add something in the passenger seat to maybe make the p...
i 'unno
if you have any ideas toss em my way
visual nest
if you have any ideas toss em my way
Make it so players can aim guns out the window?
Shotgunner seat lol
humble geyser
seems like a pain to do, plus the fact that sitting in a seat completely disables item interactions
then i'd have to start messing with gun code
visual nest
True
Can u add compatibility with that cruiser mod that allows you to look over your shoulder close the cabin window, and stuff
humble geyser
...i already have that implemented :)
visual nest
Nice
humble geyser
though you have to open the windows to look over the side of the truck
visual nest
NICE
Even better
Can u make a small emote mod that just allows you to do middle finger out the window?
Not better emotes mod. That mod is incompatible with piggys variety mod
humble geyser
playing around with the EVA
humble geyser
Not better emotes mod. That mod is incompatible with piggys variety mod
better emotes is incompatible with basically any mods that wants to implement custom anims for things like items
it's incompat with my truck
visual nest
Hey maybe add a seat in the side of the truck in the inside so u can strap in. Kinda like a seat in a army chopper
humble geyser
i'm not adding a seat on the side of the truck because that'd just look ridiculous
lul
visual nest
Ok, maybe add straps so u can be strapped in. Basically its a seat, but looks cool
visual nest
Kinda. An x seatbelt that straps u inside, but u r standing not sitting
humble geyser
But srsly. I personally am not a fan of mods that add voicelines. But ik a lot o...
i'm not usually a fan of voicelines either (such as the ones in ship windows) but i don't feel like the system on mine is as bad as that
visual nest
Yeah, maybe just make it able to be disabled
regal bone
Shotgunner seat lol
What if someone made a truck with a built-in gun? Like a military jeep with a mounted gun, or maybe something more balanced like a mega zap gun for anti-giant activities. Zap cannon if you will
humble geyser
Yeah, maybe just make it able to be disabled
that would be host sided only
visual nest
Adding the option is better than forcing it
visual nest
Ok thats fine
regal bone
We're entering the age of custom vehicles, maybe someone will think to weaponize them
humble geyser
i don't want to just disregard how other people feel about certain things, even if its my creation and i'm in control of it
kind of a shame you want to disable the eva system entirely
i think it's a really fun gimmick
regal bone
It sounds like fun
visual nest
I just dont like voicelines really. Makes it seem too advanced.
humble geyser
you know this system is from the 1980s
visual nest
Ik
humble geyser
it's a real system that was on real cars
i wouldn't say it "makes it seem too advanced"
humble geyser
it was chrysler trying to capitalize on peoples desires
humble geyser
And not rugged enough
wym?
humble geyser
it was chrysler trying to capitalize on peoples desires
also remember that during the 1980s shows like knight rider were a big thing
visual nest
I can explain ltr
humble geyser
and that featured a talking car, so you can kinda make the connection there
visual nest
I gotta go to work now
humble geyser
alr! all good :)
regal bone
At the absolute worst to me the EVA would be a mild inconvenience that comes with buying a more advanced truck
humble geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fimu4Tf0GYk this is the system if you want to learn about it :)
there were other companies that did something similar, but i think Chryslers was probably the more ""advanced"" implementation of it
humble geyser
At the absolute worst to me the EVA would be a mild inconvenience that comes wit...
as long as you aren't being like, an idiot with the truck, you generally won't hear alot of the messages haha
especially with the durability buff, it won't go critical so easily and play like 5 voice lines all universally telling you that you're fucked
if you're a really good driver, never leave the keys in the ignition before getting out, never leave the lights on before taking the key out, never leave doors open, etc, then the only message you'll ever really hear is
"ALL MONITORED SYSTEMS ARE FUNCTIONING" on startup
humble geyser
just going back to this, i would like to make the SAAB a manual transmission with clutch only, think that could be a fun "gimmick"
would also mean i can implement the "put gearstick in reverse to take the key out" hehe :)
need to rework some stuff regarding the engine logic though for that haha
fallow perch
Reading all about this is so cool
Nice work!!!
celest portal
does your cruiser replace the old one in the store?
humble geyser
does your cruiser replace the old one in the store?
Nope
Would make sense to be one but, it's not
visual nest
just going back to this, i would like to make the SAAB a manual transmission wit...
Can u make the clutch part optional?
humble geyser
god, the stupid player rig is being such a pain, anyways, I'm going to try implement some additional animations, for example, honking the horn
humble geyser
Can u make the clutch part optional?
i er, probably not? it would just be a simple key press
visual nest
Can u make the clutch part optional?
Like make the clutch part active by default, but add option to just have normal driving
humble geyser
okay, that's not true, i COULD, but a manual transmission HAS a clutch in the real world
humble geyser
Like make the clutch part active by default, but add option to just have normal ...
?
visual nest
Just make the clutch optional. U can have the feature activated by default, but add the option to not have it
humble geyser
i don't really like the idea of doing that
and i don't really see the point
if i had an option for the clutch what's the point of making it a manual
humble geyser
i'm not really interested in making an automatic variant of this car i'm afraid
visual nest
Isnt it already automatic?
humble geyser
if someone wanted to make a submod to make it an automatic they'd be free to
i mean right now yeah, but that's because it's unfinished lol
visual nest
Yeah jusg add the option to use the automatic code instead like in the config
humble geyser
no what
i'm not going to add an option to automate shifting if it's a manual transmission, because at that point there'd be no point making it a manual transmission
visual nest
Wait, is what u r planning just havimg it where u hold a key while u shift?
humble geyser
i think you're getting confused
visual nest
I am
humble geyser
Wait, is what u r planning just havimg it where u hold a key while u shift?
do you know what i mean by manual transmission
like, shifting through the forward gears manually
with the use of the clutch
the Cruiser for example is an automatic transmission
visual nest
Ohhhh wait. This is for the saab and not the scanvan
humble geyser
i thought about making the truck a manual but, wasn't sure on that idea
visual nest
Plz dont
humble geyser
the cool thing with making the saab a manual is that i can have the fun "car must be in reverse to take the key out"
visual nest
But yea i like the idea about the saab doing that
Yeah, plus if ur doing it manual, u could also make the car faster than normal lethal vehicles too so u can go into higher gears.
humble geyser
my truck already has a gear system, but since it's an auto, the forward gears are shifted through automatically
the Cruiser doesn't have gears, it's just a 1:1 direct drive
visual nest
Ok
humble geyser
neither does the Hauler
visual nest
Any chance u are able to add steering wheel support?????
humble geyser
i thought about it
visual nest
If u do all this, may as well
humble geyser
it's at the bottom of my priority list though
visual nest
I agree. That is where it should be. But u should do it when u are at the bottom of ur list
humble geyser
Plz dont
if i made the truck a manual it would be like a super rare chance
so it wouldn't be "every scanvan is a manual"
it would be like "98% of them are automatics, 2% are manual"
humble geyser
Any chance u are able to add steering wheel support?????
i'm wondering if i could do this through inpututils
i do have a wheel with pedals, so i can play around with it
and a shifter
visual nest
Btw I wanted to show u that
Would be a sick vehicle
U could have rockets on the side that u load into the cannon. Could be a cool Giant detterent
Store a few pieces of scrap on the front
humble geyser
i er, not really interested in anything like that
visual nest
Damn.
humble geyser
seems a little ridiculous and OP
and i'm not interested in bikes/mopeds/scooters either
visual nest
Nah, the rockets would cost money
And u u could only have 3 on the side at a time
And they are 2 handed
visual nest
and i'm not interested in bikes/mopeds/scooters either
Yeah i get it.
Hey any chance I could try ur mod out?
humble geyser
i'm not really looking for testers right now, sorry!
charred cliff
Have you considered
✨ Vehicle trailers ✨
I’m not sure how possible of a concept that is within the limits of lethal company but
charred cliff
Yessir
humble geyser
i have thought about it once, and that's about as far as that went
charred cliff
It sounds cool on paper but now that I’m thinking about it, in practice I’m not sure how it would work
Cause
Magnet
humble geyser
didn't even think of that
maybe it'd be a disposable thing you have to buy per moon hehe
charred cliff
That would actually be pretty awesome
Or it’s like something you can find on a map
humble geyser
i was more worried about how it'd play out in multiplayer
charred cliff
Like how outside hazards spawn in code rebirth
humble geyser
although i think syncing the trailer (while attached to a vehicle) would just be syncing its rotation, and then having it parented to a vehicles towhitch on all clients
charred cliff
How would it even work, could it even work if it was a stripped down version of vehicle assets
Or would it basically have to be made from scratch
humble geyser
wym?
charred cliff
I’m not much of a programmer so it’s kinda hard to explain what I mean
But like
Yeah I cannot explain what I mean
charred cliff
How would it even work, could it even work if it was a stripped down version of ...
Like if it was essentially a stripped down company cruiser with all features aside from two wheels being removed
Cause that’s how I would go about doing it but again
I don’t program
humble geyser
would probably be something like that
charred cliff
Like if it was essentially a stripped down company cruiser with all features asi...
Lobotomised company cruiser code
There
I explained it in 4 words
humble geyser
i mean, you can just run your own functions or run some basic patches
if __instance is trailer
return false
charred cliff
Also I should forsure look for more vehicle compatible moons because I just tried driving on what I thought would be a good moon to drive on, and was met with many pot holes 😔
humble geyser
what moon was it?
humble geyser
you tried any of poweredfulls moons?
charred cliff
Uhhhhh would that be moons like tauralis I forget
humble geyser
yup!
scallg, quasara, ferangdalion (the best) tauralis
and probably some others i forgot
charred cliff
From what I last checked, their performance was pretty sucky
That being said
That was ages ago
So I assume they’ve been optimised
I might need to look back into scallg cause from what I remember that was the best one I had driven on
I just really like tauralis
humble geyser
oh no yeah the performance is pretty dire
charred cliff
But it’s so late game in my constellation progression
humble geyser
i still think they're great, though
charred cliff
I like them but not the biggest fan of their naming schemes
Ferangdalion is a bit of a mouthful
I might be being nit picky tho
I’m very specific with moons I add to my modpack 😔
humble geyser
fergandalion is the best cruiser moon imo
a nice amount of variation in terrain and it's pretty big
driving is almost non negotiable unless you bring multiple jetpacks
there's also some cool stuff
charred cliff
I tried it when it first released and there were some parts of the map I really didn’t like but they’ve probably changed by now judging from the screen shots
humble geyser
||like destroyed trucks having loot|| or the ||interior before the actual interior that can have loot in it||
charred cliff
I did however, really like quasara
humble geyser
quasara is pretty good
charred cliff
||like destroyed trucks having loot|| or the ||interior before the actual interi...
Oh I didn’t know about that
humble geyser
i prefer cruiser moons that aren't just flat all the way
charred cliff
I like maps that do that
humble geyser
Oh I didn’t know about that
yee if you go in the tunnel you can find both those things
charred cliff
Retinue and wither do that and wither is my favourite modded moon
charred cliff
i prefer cruiser moons that aren't just flat all the way
Same
Other than tauralis because
It feels like you’re on the edge of a cliff the whole time
And I like that
Arcadia is pretty good for driving too
But a little annoying because of the permanent heatwave effect
humble geyser
i love going fast in my truck on ferangdalion
charred cliff
Retinue and wither do that and wither is my favourite modded moon
Wait why have I never thought to drive on wither
humble geyser
my truck can really cruise at speeds
charred cliff
i love going fast in my truck on ferangdalion
I’ll have to take another look at that map then
humble geyser
the vanilla CC just has a meltdown at fast speeds heh
charred cliff
I just gotta make sure to disable random landings because I have found that causes issues on moons you’re required to drive on if you land on a tricky spot with problematic installed
charred cliff
the vanilla CC just has a meltdown at fast speeds heh
I don’t drive the vanilla CC too often on account of it toppling really easy
I tend to just drive the hauler when I can
humble geyser
the vanilla CC is super stable
especially after v70
it got a self uprighting feature and passively tries to keep its self upright
charred cliff
I still have found a way to flip it almost everytime
humble geyser
even before that it had a super low center of mass
charred cliff
Tbf im not the greatest driver in video games
My favourite thing to do so far is drive in rainy weather with the hauler
humble geyser
nah, the CC does just suck in vanilla lol
charred cliff
Hauler is autocorrecting to friend nicknames 😔
humble geyser
it's a buggy pile of junk
charred cliff
My favourite thing to do so far is drive in rainy weather with the hauler
Cause it has roof sound effects
For rain
humble geyser
i do think that is a neat feature
charred cliff
I like attention to detail like that
I’m looking forward to other vehicle mods in the future (such as this one)
humble geyser
my truck muffles out audio if you're underneath colliders that are layered under Vehicle, so rain gets muffled too
charred cliff
Can’t wait to see someone entirely recreate the long drive using lethal company
humble geyser
i also fixed rain leaking into the cab and back storage
charred cliff
my truck muffles out audio if you're underneath colliders that are layered under...
Hell yeah
humble geyser
and i also fixed fog getting into the cab and rear compartment
charred cliff
Motorbike mod could be funny
A step further could be a wheel chair item that works like a ground jet pack
Or a Segway
Possibilities are endless
I feel like if zeekers were to add another vehicle to base game it would forsure be a quad bike
It only makes sense
humble geyser
with the way zeekers code and does things he only makes it harder to add an extra vehicle if he wished to
although knowing zeekers he would also just hardcode it in instead of making a modular system
charred cliff
I mean he is a solo dev who is used to working with the Roblox engine
humble geyser
you can't just deflect that with saying "he's a solo dev", i'm not disregarding that
humble geyser
i do blame him, he's making his life unnecessarily harder
especially if he wants to go back and change things
it's unfortunately just a zeekerss way of doing things
it feels like he started out with the intention of making a modular system
charred cliff
Not everyone is completely efficient at anything, I would probably do stuff in a similar fashion to him if I made a game
humble geyser
but slowly just started to disregard that idea
charred cliff
I mean I already kinda do with blender stuff that I do
humble geyser
Not everyone is completely efficient at anything, I would probably do stuff in a...
regardless
it's bad practice
charred cliff
it feels like he started out with the intention of making a modular system
Oh yeah the game idea was changed like 5 times during early development wasn’t it
It is it is
humble geyser
Oh yeah the game idea was changed like 5 times during early development wasn’t i...
i'm talking about vehicles haha
charred cliff
But at the end of the day it is his game and people learn from mistakes
charred cliff
i'm talking about vehicles haha
Ahh i thought we were talking about the game as a whole
humble geyser
nah lmao
charred cliff
Maybe he intended for multiple vehicles and then his plans changed
Tbf
When the cruiser came out
humble geyser
i'm mainly speaking about the vehiclecontroller class
charred cliff
I was so surprised because it felt like it could of been for an entirely different game
Especially with how basically no moon base game really need a cruiser that much
humble geyser
but also with the way he codes certain things like enemy interaction with vehicles
charred cliff
Maybe he had more ambitious plans originally for it
charred cliff
i'm mainly speaking about the vehiclecontroller class
Ahhh my fault
humble geyser
nah its fine i wasn't clear enough
charred cliff
but also with the way he codes certain things like enemy interaction with vehicl...
Iv never had a single good enemy interaction with the company cruiser
I guess the cruiser was probably originally intended as outside enemy protection
humble geyser
Especially with how basically no moon base game really need a cruiser that much
the cruiser was implemented since jetpacks were too easy and made the game too safe
charred cliff
But if anything is more of a liability for that base game
charred cliff
the cruiser was implemented since jetpacks were too easy and made the game too s...
Ahh fairs
That makes a lot of sense tbf
humble geyser
...but when weedkiller boost was added, it sort of just fought against the whole original idea
charred cliff
But I also just kinda got the idea zeekers realllllly wanted to make some kind of vehicle
humble geyser
he did yes
charred cliff
But had no other game to excuse putting it in
humble geyser
he expressed this on patreon
on the v55 post
he had a desire for driving games and such
charred cliff
As he should
humble geyser
the cruiser didn't completely satisfy that desire, but he said he had his fill
charred cliff
Also unrelated but
humble geyser
charred cliff
Are there any other vehicle mods currently released for lethal other than the hauler
I don’t think there are
But
humble geyser
other than that and the 2 story rv no
charred cliff
I don’t trust myself not missing something
humble geyser
vehicles are a pain in the ass to do, so don't be surprised there's only like, one or two
charred cliff
other than that and the 2 story rv no
Iv been patiently waiting for the 2 story RV mod to become a seperate vehicle instead of a cruiser replacement
humble geyser
melanie is considering it
charred cliff
So iv heard
I hope it’s possible
I always liked the 2 story rv because it’s a very funny concept
But
humble geyser
lol, looks like the CC had smaller wheels in earlier version
charred cliff
Didn’t like the idea of it replacing the base game cruiser
charred cliff
lol, looks like the CC had smaller wheels in earlier version
It looks like a toy
Glad they’re bigger now
humble geyser
they're too big base game
charred cliff
Probably changed cause of terrain
humble geyser
they clip through the bodywork
nah
changing the wheel collider size doesn't do much
it's just a single raycast
change the radius as much as you want
won't do much
making it sit higher will help
other than that, no
charred cliff
He must’ve done it for some reason as apposed to none
humble geyser
It looks like a toy
looks more like a toy with the oversized wheels
charred cliff
Maybe just a asethetic change
humble geyser
most likely yes
charred cliff
looks more like a toy with the oversized wheels
I’m the only person who likes the big wheels 💔
I wish the hauler had bigger wheels
The bottom of the car gets caught on everything unless the terrain is completely flat
humble geyser
I’m the only person who likes the big wheels 💔
they look silly and clip through the bodywork
charred cliff
Maybe it’s just a skill issue with me then
humble geyser
the hauler is really long
look at it this way, on unity default wheels, the only thing that matters is this point here
charred cliff
they look silly and clip through the bodywork
Hey I don’t know a lot about cars
I don’t know how they’re supposed to look
charred cliff
I’m a simple man, I see big wheel, I think of monster trucks, I smile
humble geyser
this is just a visual thing btw, none of this wheel mesh does anything
what matters is this
charred cliff
nah it's good lol
Yee dw Im not bothered yippie
humble geyser
ignore the ball, that's the force app distance which is suspension related
only this point matters in the context of unity wheels
charred cliff
Wait so the mesh is larger than the actual collision?
humble geyser
if i moved the wheel down or made it larger (which would move it down) that would help to an extent, but again, it's only that small point there
humble geyser
Wait so the mesh is larger than the actual collision?
the mesh just follows the colliders position
the mesh is purely a visual thing
charred cliff
Maybe it was an easy way of making it look like there was tire deformation
humble geyser
humble geyser
Maybe it was an easy way of making it look like there was tire deformation
uh, no
i'm not saying it like clips into the floor or anything
charred cliff
Maybe I am getting confused then
humble geyser
kind of dogging on unitys wheels right now but anyways
charred cliff
I’m not much of a Unity man, it’s beyond me
humble geyser
which bit is confusing you? i'm not good at explaining but i can try
charred cliff
Nono it’s good dw
charred cliff
I’m not much of a Unity man, it’s beyond me
I just stick to my blender sculpting and texturing
Doesn’t require me to think as much
You Unity people scare me because in my eyes it is black magic
It’s awesome
humble geyser
i'm kind of wrong when i say increasing the size doesn't help because it's kind of true but not, since making it larger puts the raycast further down
charred cliff
But it’s black magic
humble geyser
the hauler could increase its wheel size, but it would only help so much
unity default wheels are pretty bad for anything other than like, an arcade car
also the haulers huge size is probably part of the issue hehe
don't worry my trucks even worse
that's why i buffed the durability to v70 levels lol
humble geyser
I’m a simple man, I see big wheel, I think of monster trucks, I smile
vanilla CC rear wheel
roughly in its normal position, but hidden so you can see the outline and the body
also it clips into the storage compartment lol
this doesn't cause any issues other than just being an annoying visual thing
then again the CC has a laundry list of issues with the model
charred cliff
don't worry my trucks even worse
Your truck makes up for it by having a snazzy side door and whatnot
The coolness balances it out
humble geyser
i completely overhauled the model
i first had to fix every, single, issues on the vanilla CC model
vert by vert
so, annoying, such, a mess
charred cliff
It looks beautiful tbf
What do you think the price of it would be compared to the vanilla CC
Since it’s essentially just an upgrade in every way from what iv seen
humble geyser
What do you think the price of it would be compared to the vanilla CC
not sure, it's on 400 right now
charred cliff
650 to 750 would be my call but idk
humble geyser
Since it’s essentially just an upgrade in every way from what iv seen
depends on how you view it
charred cliff
I tend to overprice things tho
humble geyser
one of the major downsides is its size
charred cliff
True
humble geyser
collides with way more terrain more obviously
BUT
that's why i introduced the buff that was implemented on the vanilla cc
the durability one
charred cliff
Id say the voice thingy alone would be enough to make the car expensive
humble geyser
lol that's more just a fun gimmick
charred cliff
At least more expensive than the hauler in my opinion
charred cliff
lol that's more just a fun gimmick
An awesome one
humble geyser
i don't think it should be more expensive than the hauler
it'll probably be like 450-480 credits or something
charred cliff
I’m lowkey most excited for the little sedan thing
charred cliff
Yessss, I know it’s probably quite far off but it’ll be worth the wait
I just think it would be so funny running down people with it
humble geyser
every time i think about that car i keep wondering why i'm even doing that car in the first place, it just started out as a gag between me and my friends
that specific car anyways
humble geyser
every time i think about that car i keep wondering why i'm even doing that car i...
it was "funny saab in lethal company"
and then i just kept working on it
charred cliff
You could stoop lower and make a yugo that costs like 100 credits, and just give it a 50% chance to just break down for no reason, or blow up at the slightly bit of damage
humble geyser
it wouldn't even turn on
charred cliff
and then i just kept working on it
I like that style of car
Even if the car is sucky
They are just visually appealing
humble geyser
saabs were not sucky :)
they were really good cars
made to take on brutal swedish winters
charred cliff
Oh I assumed they were cause of the inside joke thing
humble geyser
they were quick too, especially for the time
nah it's just because i'm a huge saab guy
and i thought it'd be funny
humble geyser
way too out of the scope of what i want to do
charred cliff
But would be so funny
humble geyser
it is possible
charred cliff
Just not worth the effort
humble geyser
but it's not within the scope of what i want to do
charred cliff
Ahh fairs
charred cliff
Just not worth the effort
I feel like it would be a monumentental task
Specifically the boat anyways
Just because of how water works in lethal company
humble geyser
the player rig is genuinely the worst thing to work with
i just want to make the arm bend properly
humble geyser
i just want this to bend out a little further
but if i slightly move this joint the whole thing goes ballistic
charred cliff
You should see the model I made for my college fmp
Genuinely has the most dreadful weight painting imaginable
humble geyser
try animating the player rig then we can talk
charred cliff
I have animated before
I am very bad at it though
So I avoid it
Because it drives me insane
humble geyser
lcs player rig is just the bane of my existence
i don't know if it's just a unity thing or something
i could live with this, but trying doing this action irl, your arm bends outwards, and your lower arm will point towards your hand
okay well, you can also do something like this
i would just like it to bend outwards
but no, the rig decides it should bend inwards and look all weird
humble geyser
honestly i think for now this is the best i can get
celest portal
Would make sense to be one but, it's not
would there be a way to make it replace the cruiser in the store lol
like, remove the entry for the vanilla one
not actually replace the vanilla one's assets or anything obv
humble geyser
like, remove the entry for the vanilla one
probably but that might break some stuff with LLL
celest portal
i guess thats fair
i just feel it would be redundant to have both of them available to buy
humble geyser
eh, it's not that big of an issue
humble geyser
i just feel it would be redundant to have both of them available to buy
people might want to use the vanilla cc sometimes
or if they have the melanie rv mod
that
(until it becomes a seperate vehicle too)
cloud veldt
i share the same feeling he does, i've tried to look for a decent open world driving game for a while now
Jalopy is just too janky/buggy and Long Drive is too bare bones and linear
I want to try pacific drive, i don't know much about it otherwise
I'd definitely like to make a game in the same genre someday
slim quail
i share the same feeling he does, i've tried to look for a decent open world dri...
hopefully forza horizon 6 is good
fallow perch
just going back to this, i would like to make the SAAB a manual transmission wit...
this would be so awesome.. clutch kicking would allow for some sick clips hahaha
humble geyser
got to implement the clutch first haha
and play around with the engine/transmission logic
it's nothing crazy or complex, i don't think there's a need for that
so i'll see if i can make clutch kicks possible without doing it artificially
fallow perch
Awesome!!!!!!!
I'm all for fun gimmicks :D
I can already imagine running away from the meltdown or a big monster, drifting all the corners, around the trees and rocks... so cool...
humble geyser
the saab is front wheel drive hehe :)
fallow perch
oh whoops
humble geyser
i'll add a handbrake mechanism though
fallow perch
never tried clutch kicking on fwd, is it still possible to drift?
fallow perch
right makes sense
still really cool
I really like driving in games with a manual mode, even if it is on controller
I find it very enjoyable to try to control the car with the added difficulty and finding ways of drifting or just driving it like a real one
hey, does the cruiser work with a controller? never tried it honestly
humble geyser
the vanilla CC or mine?
fallow perch
both
humble geyser
hmmmmm, well the vanilla CC nope, you can configure the keybinds on mine for stuff like the gas and brake, but steering won't work yet
i don't have a controller so its hard to test, but i do have a wheel
fallow perch
support for that would be so cool dude
humble geyser
a wheel is basically an over glorified controller, so i might be able to figure out something, probably
fallow perch
yeah sure
I've emulated a wheel with my controller on Assetto Corsa before and it sorta worked
humble geyser
you don't need to emulate with AC iirc
there's no way AC doesn't have controller support
fallow perch
it does hahaha
I tried it because my PS3 controller didn't work with the controller mode on CM
no idea why it didn't work, but it wasn't enjoyable
humble geyser
i'm not sure how "realistic" i want the physics for the saab to be
ideally i'd love something akin to gta-4s driving physics
i think something like that would be lovely
just slightly stiffer springs and ofc the manual gearbox and it'd be perfect
fallow perch
I'm guessing not something akin to AC? Never played GTA 4
humble geyser
i would say AC is "realistic" but it's also a little stiff and arcadey, so probably not
the current logic i have is really simplified
gta 4 was very floaty and weighty
fallow perch
just saw a video; those physics would fit the game well, yeah
humble geyser
a little rough but it's workin
north pine
i think maybe making it faster? so the audio desync isn't too noticeable? or i may be nitpicking idk
humble geyser
i noticed this too, maybe
i just don't want it to snap
will play around with it
again the animation is super rough
north pine
again the animation is super rough
idk i really like it
humble geyser
i've increased the speed of the animation so it's a little more in sync
god these animations are such a pain lol
the nightmare of animations
humble geyser
so many different conditions and shit to account for
gotta make sure it all links up properly
even just adding 1 new animation is a nightmare to figure out
gotta think about how it'll go from X animation to X animation under certain conditions
gotta test this in MP too, i don't see why it wouldn't work though
humble geyser
too much pain
proud bone
will it be worth it tho
proud bone
alright
idk tho i failed following a tutorial on how to make an LC moon at the 5 minute mark 😭
something in unity wouldn’t appear after pasting some github thing idk
north pine
i mean if in the entire LC lifetime we have only gotten 1 new vehicle, fairly recently
i mean it can be fun
but surely not easy
humble geyser
it can be fun but it's mostly just pain and suffering
even my truck, which uses alot of the original CC stuff as its basis (since it's based on the CC) has been a pain to work on at times
just to get things to behave properly takes so much fiddling and small adjustments
celest portal
humble geyser
i literally just came outside the vow fire exit
it actually survived that
anyways i fixed some animator transition stuff with the horn anim
celest portal
playing around with the EVA
does the truck actually have like, fuel and coolant and stuff or is that just like for flavor/immersion lol
humble geyser
they just light up on the dashboard if the car is under certain hp
or the corresponding voice lines
they also light up briefly when putting the key in (dashboard sweep) but that's more just an immersion thing
celest portal
ah i see
makes sense saying coolant low now that i think about it
since you have to put weed killer in the engine to heal it
also, since this car is not replacing the original cruiser in the shop, will it cost more?
humble geyser
i haven't decided on a price yet
humble geyser
since you have to put weed killer in the engine to heal it
i honestly want to implement something a little less ridiculous than this
might look into making a seperate store bought item
celest portal
honestly true
maybe like, a separate mod that just replaces the model and name of the weed killer to some engine oil thing
humble geyser
even if it's just something like "spray bottle of engine lubricant"
celest portal
i think the way the weed killer item has been kind of orphaned from its original purpose is funny
humble geyser
it uses spray paint code lul
celest portal
like it was originally added as a counter to the vain shrouds/kidnapper fox, while also having a secondary use as a lubricant type thing for the cruiser
humble geyser
ohh you mean in that sense
celest portal
yeah lol
humble geyser
i've generally just come to dislike the whole weedkiller = free car health, and i generally now take a negative stance on stuff like truck jumping
celest portal
its just funny how because of a bunch of development stuff, the car repair item is just a bottle of weed killer for no reason
humble geyser
its just funny how because of a bunch of development stuff, the car repair item ...
it was probably just hastily done for v56
cloud veldt
I really dislike how unity animations require this web of states, maybe i am not one to speak but i feel like its so unnecessary
humble geyser
v55 never had the weedkiller car feature
humble geyser
I really dislike how unity animations require this web of states, maybe i am not...
yeah it's really annoying lol
celest portal
oh really? lol
i actually didnt know that, i thought the weed killer always had that feature
humble geyser
oh really? lol
yup! when v55 released you couldn't heal the car with weedkiller, you couldn't jump or rock the CC either
celest portal
damn
humble geyser
i made a recreation of the v55 car out of boredom one time
i even have the original service manual photo
v55
v56
you can also see it lacks the turbo bar in the engine pic
since that's the original engine bay it released with in v55
celest portal
LOL i dont think ive ever actually seen that second one
celest portal
i think some mod i have makes the manual not appear in the cruiser anymore
humble geyser
that didn't have wee kill written on it
humble geyser
i think some mod i have makes the manual not appear in the cruiser anymore
science bird tweaks
celest portal
wee kill
humble geyser
i really liked the v55 cruiser
it's why i made a recreation of it, just with all the bugs and other issues squashed out
celest portal
is the only difference no boost?
humble geyser
if we're talking pure vanilla v55-v56 no
it was also more lethal to the occupants
collisions killed you way easier
humble geyser
i did add some things to my v55 car that were never in the base game to begin with
like the chance for it to spawn with the wheel on the other side
humble geyser
if we're talking pure vanilla v55-v56 no
the v55 car also had grippier tyres
celest portal
like the chance for it to spawn with the wheel on the other side
thats a really funny feature actually lol
humble geyser
also, v55 never counted items as collected in the truck and the truck never blocked LOS
but i'm not implementing those on mine
i feel like they're non negotiable
celest portal
i actually didnt know that items in the truck counting as being collected was a vanilla feature because its just so OP
humble geyser
i also got a bit of a hacky workaround to make old birds see you drive again on mine
great
it doesn't embed
humble geyser
i actually didnt know that items in the truck counting as being collected was a ...
it was added in v56
celest portal
wait what is this video showing im dumb
humble geyser
wait what is this video showing im dumb
kinda shows two things, but it was to show old birds being able to now see the truck
and locking onto it if people are driving it
right now in vanilla the truck has colliders that block los to old birds seeing you in the cab
i added a threat type to the truck and a visibility if people are in the seats
so old birds lock onto it
i think it's only fair and just makes sense
it 100% was not an intended feature for them not to see you
the second thing it shows is right hand drive lul
there's some other small things i added, like animating the vertical column buttons and giving them a sfx that was missing
celest portal
ahh i see
honestly old bird rockets launching you out of the drivers seat is so frustrating but it makes sense
humble geyser
the whole goal with the v55 recreation was keep it as authentic as possible while fixing all the issues, whether code related or model related
humble geyser
honestly old bird rockets launching you out of the drivers seat is so frustratin...
i guess yeah, but that's kinda the whole point
but because it's been a bit of a cheese for a while now, if it was patched out people would just immediately complain because they got so accustomed to old birds never seeing them drive
celest portal
i didnt actually know old birds couldnt see you in the drivers seat
humble geyser
it's because of the colliders on the truck
celest portal
is it only for old birds or all enemies?
celest portal
i see
humble geyser
if you remove some of the colliders they can see you
celest portal
dont giants have a line of sight thing too
humble geyser
giants can see you just fine
humble geyser
the v55 car also had grippier tyres
it also had a worse ignition chance, lul
golden meteor
I really dislike how unity animations require this web of states, maybe i am not...
I think if you can organise it and use it properly it can look amazing and intuitive but when you're not experienced with it it looks like absolute trash
Also doesn't help the decompiler just dumps them out
gentle sable
ive been thinking
now that custom vehicles are a thing
what if you could "store" these vehicles in a garage on the company moon?
it pretty much saves them and allows you to switch vehicles midway through quotas without having to discard the previous vehicle
for example:
i wanna switch my hauler to a cruiser/another car, i can just park it inside the garage, take out the cruiser and go into orbit with it
charred cliff
what if you could "store" these vehicles in a garage on the company moon?
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1397340436258881576 I made a lil thing about this if you wanna brainstorm with us
A garage system being a part of the company/gordion could be pretty cool
Idk how possible it would be tho
humble geyser
A garage system being a part of the company/gordion could be pretty cool
the most viable system is one that would delete the previous vehicle (and store it) and spawn the one you want in
it probably wouldn't be hard to just pull the list of vehicles in the terminal and save them by ID numer
number*
and then just make a system to tell the server to instantiate the one you want to spawn in
if you want to make it even simpler you could just make it so
a vehicle has to be near the ship
you store it through the terminal
it just despawns
and then any vehicle you want to spawn is accessed through a "garage" section on the terminal, and it'd be re-delivered by dropship
at no cost, ofc
severe robin
Oh so you got the radio with real life stations working? Cool
Damn I missed out on so much
Chat, this will be one of the best mods for lethal company
humble geyser
i think there are better mods than mine haha, calling this the best mod might be a stretch lul
remote raft
This does look peak
severe robin
Yea it is literally peak
Like nothing looks out of the place compared to normal lethal company
humble geyser
Like nothing looks out of the place compared to normal lethal company
i guess that's more up to your own view haha
north pine
i think there are better mods than mine haha, calling this the best mod might be...
the amount of love and detail you are putting to the vehicles is insane
humble geyser
same can be said for the Company Hauler, that's arguably way better than whatever the fuck i'm making lmao
north pine
you could just have made a few improvements to the cruiser but you decided to go beyond adding so many things its impressive
hauler is really cool
humble geyser
i just enjoy (and also hate) working on the truck
north pine
doesnt mean yours isn't
humble geyser
you could just have made a few improvements to the cruiser but you decided to go...
in fairness that is pretty much what it originally was
lul
i probably have some early pictures of it somewhere
this image is almost a year old
severe robin
same can be said for the Company Hauler, that's arguably way better than whateve...
imo Company Hauler is really cool because its the first mod to add a completly new car
But your mod takes the Company Cruiser (which already wasnt so bad) and takes it to a new lvl
I bed Zeekers would be impressed himself
humble geyser
the CC in vanilla is ass
severe robin
Yea
north pine
zeekers needs to hire you hehe
humble geyser
zeekers needs to hire you hehe
i've already done all the work to make an "ideal vanilla CC" (my v55 one hehe)
north pine
But your mod takes the Company Cruiser (which already wasnt so bad) and takes it...
and dont forget ab the other car in the making too!
severe robin
Ngl zeekers needs to start some hiring modders
Like Wesley
I bet they will keep the game alive
humble geyser
i swear the saab is just going to be more of a joke vehicle because it's going to be so impractical on any of the base game moons
north pine
Ngl zeekers needs to start some hiring modders
he doesn't even knows too much ab the modding scene
humble geyser
it'll probably be funny though
north pine
is crazy
humble geyser
Wait... *what* car?
the saab
severe robin
Ohhhh
humble geyser
the original car that i was working on
severe robin
Yea i cant forget about this one lol
humble geyser
mustard yellow
north pine
the original car that i was working on
maybe that one coudl have those thing at the top of the vehicle to bring a few items
severe robin
mustard yellow
So thats the beauty I saw the first time I looked into this thread
north pine
racks?
humble geyser
maybe that one coudl have those thing at the top of the vehicle to bring a few i...
a roofrack?
north pine
i cant remember the names
humble geyser
like on my truck?
north pine
yess
humble geyser
i just remembered something amazing
these were real too
Melanie i'm coming for your RV
severe robin
Just add a big V8 to it and make it like 400hp
humble geyser
Just add a big V8 to it and make it like 400hp
nah, the 2.0l 4 cyl is perfectly fine as is
turbocharged too
severe robin
Melanie i'm coming for your RV
Wtf is this 
humble geyser
Wtf is this <a:kekwa:887027508644569110>
saab toppola
north pine
Melanie i'm coming for your RV
i've seen similar things haha
slim quail
Melanie i'm coming for your RV
when this
north pine
ok i think this is too much
humble geyser
Just add a big V8 to it and make it like 400hp
i swear tuned saabs make more power than this
not talking about the 900, more the later mid 2000s
i don't think a v8 would fit anyways
humble geyser
i think a bicycle would be worse than walking haha
oh wow, i didn't even know the saab 900 had automatic seatbelts haha
north pine
i think a bicycle would be worse than walking haha
nah it has to be balanced for it to be worth it hehe
humble geyser
how do you balance a bicycle? :)
humble geyser
seems a little ridiculous to have a flying bicycle icl
north pine
its smaller so it can fit more places
north pine
seems a little ridiculous to have a flying bicycle icl
i mean yeah, im not thinking of a regular bike
cruiser flies, thats a bit ridiculous
humble geyser
it didn't used to fly :)
north pine
really? 😮
humble geyser
lol yeah, did you not know?
humble geyser
cruiser flies, thats a bit ridiculous
honestly i lean on the cruiser jumping meta being more of a thing zeekers didn't foresee
north pine
lol yeah, did you not know?
nope!
i barely know anything ab cruiser
left the game right around that time
and when i came back i haven't even used it
im too dumb to drive it
humble geyser
nope!
when it first came out in v55 it didn't have weedkiller healing, jumping nor could you rock the CC
my version 55 car recreation is exactly like this too
this stuff only came later in 56
north pine
oh interesting
humble geyser
i have to wonder how many people would still use the CC if it never received really any changes after its release in v55
humble geyser
im too dumb to drive it
i mean the control scheme isn't that hard
north pine
still a bike that lets you carry more items, is faster than the player of course, even faster when going down a slope, could have some kind of jumping ability (boost is an example) to let you go into more places, being smaller would let you go in smaller places that cruiser or other cars wouldn't fit, would be cheaper
idk i think there can be a good thing there
humble geyser
it is for me <:perceive:1208563314842533918>
W is your gas, S is always your brake pedal, A and D are your steering inputs
north pine
i need to learn it still
humble geyser
you shift gears by pressing E on the stick
north pine
W is your gas, S is always your brake pedal, A and D are your steering inputs
i sometimes go W and explode
humble geyser
that's pretty much all you need to know
humble geyser
i sometimes go W and explode
put it in gear then :)
you're attempting to drive in park
north pine
put it in gear then :)
i mean like im stuck
humble geyser
its too slippery
okay yeah no fair enough, it's not slippery it is just broken
north pine
im trying to get out of that place but i blow up :c
north pine
but its not cruiser only, i also have similar problems with hauler
humble geyser
Hauler uses the exact same code from the CC for stuff like this
north pine
and the boost is an instant death
humble geyser
so it inherits the same problems
north pine
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348033280896929926/1376040472576917618/C...
i will always remember
but
look at this
humble geyser
its too slippery
the CC actually has really good grip
a little too much grip
the wheels are very very jittery
north pine
north pine
the ending
humble geyser
i have no clue why the Hauler even does that
north pine
thats what i mean with im the bad one
humble geyser
i don't know if it's like a center of gravity or a force app distance issue
north pine
i have no clue why the Hauler even does that
what, slip?
north pine
yeah slip
north pine
oh
humble geyser
that's not natural behaviour
i would have to imagine it's a CoG issue or force app issue
north pine
im thinking it like slipping on a banana peel
humble geyser
you turned right and the car literally started leaning right, that makes zero sense
if it were just tipping over it should've leaned the opposite direction
humble geyser
funky hauler stuff then
i don't really know what's going on with why it does that
all i could recommend to train is to maybe double check stuff like cog and forceappdistance
humble geyser
i didn't even turned right xD
yeahh that's not your fault in this instance
you were slightly veering right but still
north pine
still im very bad at it
specially with the steering
turning its really hard for me
and controlling the speed too
humble geyser
the hauler or the CC?
humble geyser
and controlling the speed too
feather the gas instead of holding it
holding the gas is pretty much a death sentence
humble geyser
specially with the steering
the steering is broken, so partially not your fault, but you need to remember it doesn't center its self
north pine
the hauler or the CC?
both
humble geyser
you need to turn it back yourself
north pine
the steering is broken, so partially not your fault, but you need to remember it...
yeah thats like my biggest problem
i guess is similar to real life
humble geyser
nah
cars center up irl
unless you're not moving
but they naturally drift back to center when you move
north pine
also i always forget S is an input haha
humble geyser
that honestly won't help you and will just send you flying backwards
park might work
there's some disused code that basically never meets the conditions to work but putting the truck in park at speeds is supposed to damage it
however the conditions for this are like if enginerpm > 3000 and the cruiser would have to be going like 4x its max speed to reach this
the enginerpm on the cc code doesn't work like actual enginerpm
i altered these conditions on both my scanvan and v55 cruiser to work how i imagine zeekers intended it to
if you put it in park while it's going quick (and the wheels are grounded) it'll damage the car badly
north pine
also the biggest thing for me is that most the moons i play in are not even cruiser friendly
humble geyser
also the vanilla cc has some weird code, with similar conditions but even higher enginerpm, that is meant to damage the car if you're simply going fast in reverse lol
north pine
so even i f i wanted to learn i cant haha
humble geyser
also the biggest thing for me is that most the moons i play in are not even crui...
download some Cruiser moons then :)
north pine
download some Cruiser moons then :)
i would but
:C
is not that easy for me
but i do plan on it
i wanna add many more moons
humble geyser
if it makes driving any easier you can install bettervehiclecontrols btw
it's compatible with the hauler off the bat too
north pine
nah im not to that level haha ty
i wanna learn it but its not a priority
i have the wheelbarrow in the meantime hehe
humble geyser
wheelbarrow is very limited :)
north pine
wheelbarrow is very limited :)
yes
but it works
tho, in the moons i play the wheelbarrow is a far better option than cruiser
i mostly play wesley
so yeah
not much room for it
humble geyser
ah ic
indigo coyote
cruiser is more viable
north pine
cruiser is miles better than a wheelbarrow ofc
but there are moons where cruiser is unusable
no way you are fitting it in lecaro
indigo coyote
the humble engine lubricant
indigo coyote
yea definetly, ill try making one when i get back
humble geyser
you know it's bad when the only way the car is viable is to fly it across the map, and even at that point a jetpack makes more sense
north pine
you know it's bad when the only way the car is viable is to fly it across the ma...
true
humble geyser
never played wesleys moons, so idk what lecaro is like
guess i'll find out
0 star delivery service
okay, this moon may be the one instance where, if you really wanted to try using a car, maybe the saab would be a better option
it's wedged
completely wedged
north pine
xD
yeah...
only thing i can think of is like using the boost to go around, from the back of the ship to the left
humble geyser
the saab is WAY smaller than the truck, maybe that might fit a little better
north pine
but i dont think its possible
north pine
boosting is laaameee
humble geyser
just learn to drive 💪
north pine
XD
humble geyser
or just don't try use the car on a moon where it's very obviously not meant for a car in any way shape or form
north pine
yeah
that's what i said
and those are like the moons i played the most
so yeah not much to learn
humble geyser
i might still have a barely working saab i can try instead of a truck
i don't remember if reverse gear works but i'll give it a shot
in its beautiful mustard yellow glory
reverse kinda works
alright, let's try this
oookay exiting the car is broken
might need to like, fix this car before even attempting to use it
north pine
xD
indigo coyote
never played wesleys moons, so idk what lecaro is like
you should try it sometime if you have free time with friends
humble geyser
this car fits so much better
indigo coyote
also since you've been doing a lot of stuff i would recommend clearing your recycle bin
humble geyser
i just downloaded lecaro on its own
humble geyser
so thats why i said that
ic ic
i accidentally tried exiting :(
it got further than the truck
once i refine the physics it might be a little more capable
north pine
indigo coyote
lecaro wasnt meant for any cars probably
humble geyser
it's on a very barebone framework right now since i was redoing a bunch of stuff
humble geyser
lecaro wasnt meant for any cars probably
ya'think?
north pine
lecaro wasnt meant for any cars probably
you dont say
humble geyser
my car gets further than a truck though
north pine
my car gets further than a truck though
yay
humble geyser
i mean, it is like half the size of it
and if it weren't for the super barebone framework it could've made it around a corner
it just got stuck and had no power
once i refine it, this won't be an issue
lul
indigo coyote
well i wouldnt test it on standalones or you might get spoilers for his modpack (its progression)
north pine
how do vehicles work with the lava?
humble geyser
i am aware of its progression
humble geyser
how do vehicles work with the lava?
idk
indigo coyote
the lava is a instakill for employees
humble geyser
if it tries to call a destroycar method on my saab it'll just error out
if it doesn't then the car will just sit there
it'll just be stuck
indigo coyote
infernis is better for the hauler due to its holes fitting less
humble geyser
either that or it just deletes it
humble geyser
infernis is better for the hauler due to its holes fitting less
do you know how huge the hauler is
humble geyser
ah wait
indigo coyote
but the hauler doesnt fit in probably so
north pine
Yeah infernis is good enough for vehicles
indigo coyote
wait does the hauler have hauler jumps? icr
north pine
Another impossible is atlas abyss, unless you do the weirdest boost jump
north pine
wait does the hauler have hauler jumps? icr
Yes
humble geyser
the hauler doesn't have boost no
indigo coyote
hear me out.. what if you make the bumper silver so it can kill ghost girl
humble geyser
what
indigo coyote
doesnt silver kill ghosts in myths?
indigo coyote
oh wow
north pine
doesnt silver kill ghosts in myths?
yes!
you know what could be even better, lgu upgrade hehe
humble geyser
the hauler is around about the same length as my truck
humble geyser
multicruiser
indigo coyote
i mean LGCU is gonna be hard to make compatible with his haulers
humble geyser
funny buggy mod
humble geyser
i mean LGCU is gonna be hard to make compatible with his haulers
i don't think it would be
it uses alot of vanilla cc code
north pine
i mean LGCU is gonna be hard to make compatible with his haulers
yeah, i just said it bc it already has an upgrade for it
humble geyser
although for stuff like seat upgrades that would need custom compat
north pine
although for stuff like seat upgrades that would need custom compat
yeah?
it doesn't change anything visually
humble geyser
yeah i know, but the hauler has custom code to damage players in the backseats
so that would need custom compat
north pine
ohh
humble geyser
it's so l o n g
north pine
oki
humble geyser
i think my truck barely just beats it in length but it is a titanic