nope
#Lethal Sponge
tepid chasm
tepid chasm
https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304
society if people changed to gale
sharp jackal
yes
elfin yacht
UNLESS THAT'S A STUPID QUESTION
tepid chasm
brotherrrrrr
sharp jackal
Gale is just peak fr
tepid chasm
i will eat myself
foggy void
It's literally just another mod manager
elfin yacht
same servers
ok im switching
so this is my mod pack code
0198aa60-9b60-5e8f-66f6-6120fd755cd7
and it will work
?
tepid chasm
same codes
same everything
you will log in
and it will ask you if you wanna port your profiles to it
sharp jackal
Btw, I'm also interested in this 👆 Idk if any config "fixes" this
elfin yacht
been testing
uhhh don't seem like it
but ik hdlc did
but hdlc is poopy compared to this mod
so idk
elfin yacht
and it will ask you if you wanna port your profiles to it
log in?
sharp jackal
HDLC is past it's prime
elfin yacht
ah alr
tepid chasm
but you can also log with discord
elfin yacht
thought i had to make some shit account
sharp jackal
Don't use it, currently it's not updated and has a lot of incompatibilities
tepid chasm
and make shared codes
foggy void
Btw, I'm also interested in this 👆 Idk if any config "fixes" this
That's just a view distance thing
lol
tepid chasm
and make shared codes
gale's best feature
elfin yacht
gale's best feature
i mean i can always share my codes with thunderstore
i don't see the difference
sharp jackal
and make shared codes
Wdym 
foggy void
Unfortunately I have people that don't like Gale and won't explain why
so I still need to do manual exports as well
elfin yacht
https://galemodmanager.com/ is this the right website
elfin yacht
sharp jackal
You're saying that Gale had an option to share profiles and sync when I make changes all this time and I didn't know?
tepid chasm
Unfortunately I have people that don't like Gale and won't explain why
stupid
stupids peoples
foggy void
https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/releases Get it from here
tepid chasm
deserve death penalty
tepid chasm
You're saying that Gale had an option to share profiles and sync when I make cha...
yes
elfin yacht
You're saying that Gale had an option to share profiles and sync when I make cha...
WAITR WHAT
sharp jackal
That's just a view distance thing
But is there a way to increase it?
elfin yacht
https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/releases Get it from here
ok now im confused
foggy void
But is there a way to increase it?
You can but it causes some issues, we tried doing it with CullFactory before and clients noticed some bug of view distance resetting
tepid chasm
as shrimple as that!
elfin yacht
do i download the first guy's link or yours
foggy void
I would just not bother
elfin yacht
@foggy void
foggy void
do i download the first guy's link or yours
Both are official sources
tepid chasm
ok now im confused
https://thunderstore.io/c/peak/p/Kesomannen/GaleModManager/
download it from here, where it says manual download
sharp jackal
I would just not bother
Ok then
tepid chasm
elfin yacht
I would just not bother
aw man, i mean yea fair tho
tepid chasm
elfin yacht
sharp jackal
Why did you do that to spongebob
strong lion
no!! spongebob would never do this!
elfin yacht
so um
sharp jackal
Hmmmm I think there's something I should do here but it's not clear enough...
tepid chasm
????
sharp jackal
LOL
strong lion
how tf did you get markdown files to be assigned to l4d2
fluid pelican
change it to notepad lmaooo
elfin yacht
how tf did you get markdown files to be assigned to l4d2
I HAVE NO IDEA
IT JUST DID IT ONE DAY
HELP ME
sharp jackal
Bro is playing LC2 while we're waiting LC to get off from early access
tepid chasm
True
strong lion
better
elfin yacht
idk how or why it's like that on my pc
is there a way to convert all md files to not use l4d2
fluid pelican
I would put .md and change the default program (for the future)
fluid pelican
is there a way to convert all md files to not use l4d2
yes
strong lion
btw for future reference, don't change md files to txt, right click and select "open with" and then choose notepad and set it as default
elfin yacht
ahhh
i had a feeling it was with that
did it
i must've miss clicked at some point then
ok now what
strong lion
run the executable
tepid chasm
Install it
strong lion
the one on the bottom
strong lion
tbf you haven't given me much indication you know how to do this stuff
elfin yacht
ok fair yea mb
tepid chasm
elfin yacht
alr did it
elfin yacht
i uninstalled thunderstore before launching the game on gale
and i feel as if that's why my mods seem to be uh.......... not the saved in terms of settings
or maybe im stupid
fluid pelican
did you use the import function? either way they should have (from code or importing directly)
tepid chasm
Weird
It should have
Maybe smth happened in between
But either way
You have now ascended
elfin yacht
did you use the import function? either way they should have (from code or impor...
did i have to check the import all files toggle?
cuz i didn't originally
but luckily i still have the original code soo
maybe it'll work?
tepid chasm
Try doing it
fluid pelican
uhmmm yeah, you might want to do that
elfin yacht
oof
tepid chasm
If you have things outside common ts you need to do thattt
elfin yacht
mb i didn't see the option
tepid chasm
Ye happens
elfin yacht
i was too fascinated by the slick design of the program
tepid chasm
Hehehehehhehehehehehehehhehehewiwijebehu3h3o2092u2hvejdbd
elfin yacht
worked
fluid pelican
if you have it installed, sure
burnt belfry
Gale is actually so much better it's not even funny
tepid chasm
Fr fr
pseudo glade
Is there any known incompatibilities with this mod at all? I've never used this mod and I'm just making sure before I install it.
warm solstice
Is there any known incompatibilities with this mod at all? I've never used this ...
None that I know of. Besides a terrible mod called surfaced which you should uninstall.
-# ||There aren’t any known incompatibilities||
placid surge
None that I know of. Besides a terrible mod called surfaced which you should uni...
whats wrong with surfaced
warm solstice
whats wrong with surfaced
spongebob made it 
somber pollen
hearty berry
Is there a setting to use sponge with no visual difference? Or if I did that would the mod simply have no impact whatsoever
Since it's just difficult to see things that are farther away inside with the shading, especially noticeable in caves
sudden abyss
You can but it causes some issues, we tried doing it with CullFactory before and...
issues with CullFactory view distance switching? any idea what causes it?
(if it doesn't seem to happen every time for clients)
first I've heard of it
foggy void
@versed orbit Do you remember the issue and a good way to describe it?
strong lion
Is there a setting to use sponge with no visual difference? Or if I did that wou...
Turn off the shader in config
You might need to disable it removing postprocessing too
hearty berry
Turn off the shader in config
Like the custom shader?
strong lion
yes
hearty berry
Thanks <3
pale narwhal
there is no way to use the mod without it impacting the visuals of the game
there's always going to be a tradeoff
the biggest difference is the shader so you can usually just turn that off and resolve most of your issues
but you'll still have like, FPS limiting for the cameras
items disappearing when far away because of LOD tuning
lights working differently at certain distances
etc
valid forge
Is there any known incompatibilities with this mod at all? I've never used this ...
i know this is a late reply but the mod looks weird with the Liminal Pools Interior i’m pretty sure
tidal canyon
is it possible to allow the game to run 4096x shadows?
visual wigeon
i uninstalled sponge after fiddling with the camera settings and uh...
tepid chasm
beanie
polar thicket
hello hello, question! which setting makes the radar look like this? (Second image the one with Lethal sponge on) or/and is there a way to prevent it?
ornate reef
hello hello, question! which setting makes the radar look like this? (Second ima...
I think resizeTextures and maxTextureSize in the config might affect this
bleak geyser
Any problems with this mod on the new version?
plain leaf
I would assume not as it is not involved with networking I think. Mostly handles how the game and its assets are being loaded after all
bleak geyser
I would assume not as it is not involved with networking I think. Mostly handles...
It doesn't work, after I pull the lever the game crashs
plain leaf
Good to know. Guess this one will need a tweak as well. Let's hope it comes soon
bleak geyser
Good to know. Guess this one will need a tweak as well. Let's hope it comes soon
It seems like it was another mod doing this in specific situations, and when I downloaded Lethal Sponge, the game crashed, so I thought it was Lethal Sponge. Sorry.
plain leaf
Dw, know that kinda situation all too well. Not always that easy to judge that. Did that other mod act up with LethalSponge or what do you know about what happened?
bleak geyser
Im not a 100% sure but biggership and weatherregistry
foggy void
@scenic ocean On v73 if you have both LethalSponge and TooManyEmotes present the game crashes when you land the ship
it works fine if TME is disabled and Sponge is enabled
also works fine if TME is enabled and Sponge is disabled
So you prolly need to recomp the mod I assume
Yeah it's a Sponge issue, prolly the post process stuff is broken
scenic ocean
I'll take a look into that, thanks for letting me know 👍
foggy void
I'll take a look into that, thanks for letting me know 👍
Yeah can confirm it's on Sponge's side since I tested a recomp of TME and reprod it
scenic ocean
Are there any error messages, or does it just crash?
foggy void
Are there any error messages, or does it just crash?
It just crashes
Right after lever pull basically
ionic crane
<@260587965456056331> On v73 if you have both LethalSponge and TooManyEmotes pre...
can i see your sponge config cuz it doesnt crash with my current one
or is it just a default one ?
foggy void
can i see your sponge config cuz it doesnt crash with my current one
I'm not replacing the posterization which is prolly why
Maybe this also helps @scenic ocean
I can also just share the full config but yeah
foggy void
idk i cant make it to crash even with your config
It has to be on v73
Or now it doesn't wanna crash whaaaaa
I reprod this several times
stiff sapphire
Or now it doesn't wanna crash whaaaaa
!nuke game (in the past)
foggy void
I fucking crashed it so many times and now it just works okay
What the hell
lmao
Lemme test the live TME build again
WHAT THE FUCK
LMAO
Why is it fine now
AHAHA
I'm losing it
I made it crash every damn land before
WAIT A MINUTE I KNOW WHAT DID IT
@scenic ocean I had the option to disable Motion Blur on when it was crashing
LMAO
Hold up just a damn minute
TME + Sponge + That option does it?
☠️
OKAY IT JUST REFUSES TO CRASH NOW
I am so hella confused
LMAO
ionic crane
☠️
ionic crane
the one u share doesnt have remove blur set to true so
yea illl try that combo now
stiff sapphire
I'm losing it
The gradually depleting sanity when mysteriously unable to repro the issue 💀
Mood
foggy void
Bruh in this video it crashed right after lever pull but it was game capture
ionic crane
it doesnt crash for me... at least on my own profile
lemme try a fresh one
foggy void
I have no idea why it wanted to be a bitch when I caught it red handed earlier
Wait I just realized I scanned before pulling the lever
HMMMMM
foggy void
That actually may have been what I did when it crashed after the ship landed too
I might have scanned and it died
It just wants to behave now
like
most of the time
Idk
ionic crane
u should keep trying again
foggy void
Nah it's definitely some sponge related issue but idk why it's being inconsistent now
lol
foggy void
It also could be a bug on TME's end still since I never had it once before pairing the 2 together
idk
Best thing is for both mods to get recomps and update prolly
lmao
Here's the logs from that crash I recorded too
pale narwhal
i am also getting extremely inconsistent crashes when landing the ship on v73
in my case it has only happened on dine and seems to only happen with imperium installed
foggy void
i am also getting extremely inconsistent crashes when landing the ship on v73
I only get it with Sponge and TME together
I had it happening consistently too idk why it's behaving now
pale narwhal
i am also getting extremely inconsistent crashes when landing the ship on v73
not related to sponge btw i just wonder if something else is to blame
foggy void
I wish I could manually import the new BepInEx into Gale and see if it's related to that
Cus the old version of BepInEx 5 might be being fucky with the current Unity build
iirc didn't the Peak community also have some inconsistent crashing issues til Bepinex got updated for them specifically @pale narwhal?
https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx/releases/tag/v5.4.23.4 Wouldn't hurt to run a test with this and see if it stops cus if it does we should prolly get TS Staff to update it
pale narwhal
iirc didn't the Peak community also have some inconsistent crashing issues til B...
i have no idea
pale narwhal
I wish I could manually import the new BepInEx into Gale and see if it's related...
is there something preventing this in gale
i feel like replacing the files ought to be possible
foggy void
replacing the files just breaks Gale
That being said I might be able to import it into R2
neat light
I can almost guarantee its not bepinex
foggy void
We don't know for sure what it is, that being said it doesn't hurt to see if it might be
pale narwhal
updating bepinex would be pretty funny because then every log would be congested by complaints that mods are targeting the previous bepinex version
foggy void
could be mods hooking into some method as well
pale narwhal
until everybody recompiles again
foggy void
updating bepinex would be pretty funny because then every log would be congested...
actually it shouldn't care, it's backwards compatible
it only complains if they look for a newer version
lmao
pale narwhal
if you want to copy your profile's mod list i can post what mods overlap with mine that's crashing
pale narwhal
if you want to copy your profile's mod list i can post what mods overlap with mi...
i have less than 50 enabled so it shouldnt be too difficult to narrow down
foggy void
Idk if it will show the disabled ones or not
Doesn't seem to
Oh wait yeah it does
MonoDetour shows up
LMAO
Let me correct this to exclude disabled mods rq
Actually
I just noticed
I disabled Chameleon unintentionally
and I had it on when it was crashing consistently
pale narwhal
if you want to copy your profile's mod list i can post what mods overlap with mi...
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.4.6
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
ButteryStancakes-BarberFixes-1.3.0
ButteryStancakes-ButteRyBalance-0.3.0
ButteryStancakes-ButteryFixes-1.15.3
ButteryStancakes-Chameleon-2.2.0
ButteryStancakes-EnemySoundFixes-1.8.1
ButteryStancakes-JetpackFixes-1.5.4
ButteryStancakes-MaskFixes-1.5.2
ButteryStancakes-MeleeFixes-1.4.1
ButteryStancakes-WeedKillerFixes-1.1.2
Dev1A3-LethalFixes-1.2.8
DiFFoZ-HarmonyXTranspilerFix-1.1.0
DiggC-CruiserImproved-1.5.2
Fandovec03-SpiderPositionFix-1.5.3
Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix-1.2.0
JacobG5-ReverbTriggerFix-0.3.0
LethalCompanyModding-VertexLibrary-1.1.0
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2024.2.2700
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.10
Zaggy1024-PathfindingLagFix-2.2.5
Zaggy1024-PathfindingLib-2.4.0
mattymatty-Matty_Fixes-1.1.35
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-3.3.2
Hmmmmm
pale narwhal
these are the 24 mods that overlap between our profiles
foggy void
Yeah it might be Chameleon
Cus I stopped having the consistent crashes with that off
But that's an odd combo
pale narwhal
i would be very doubtful but i guess nothing is impossible
chameleon does not consistently induce crashes for me
foggy void
Yeah no it's usually fine for me as well
pale narwhal
and i've played around in snow caves, with manor doors, etc. features appear to work fine
foggy void
The crash issue I'm thinking is that + TME + Sponge
which also might link to the crash with Imperium too?
Chameleon + Imperium?
pale narwhal
also of note, i guess, i use loadstone unstable beta on this profile and you use stable loadstone (unless you have it disabled)
foggy void
Still seems okay
so strange
I did have some other mods on earlier that are broken like The Locker and The Doctor
Idk
I just wish I knew why it was consistent before but now it's fine
lmao
pale narwhal
i will say i checked my crash logs
loadstone is one of the last few things to output before crashing
but im not sure if it's just coincidence because it's crashing right as the ship lands
pathfindinglib and/or loadstone generally show up in the stack trace or right before
foggy void
Following up on the PathfingindLib theory
What are the chances that everytime it crashed it tried to spawn in The Doctor? @pale narwhal Since he is broken on v73 and he can spawn at round start
That won't explain the random crash when the ship fully landed though with it disabled
but might explain the ones where it did right after lever pull
pale narwhal
i have no idea what the doctor is, but if that's a custom enemy, i don't have it installed
i have next to nothing in terms of custom content on my profile that's crashing
foggy void
Yeah which makes this stranger
pale narwhal
```
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.4.6
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
ButteryStancakes-Barb...
these are the only mods our profiles share
foggy void
I do know these 2 guys were enabled at the time I was producing them consistently though
both of which are broken
pale narwhal
these are the only mods our profiles share
- you have loadstone and i have loadstone unstable beta
if i had more time and energy right now, i would try to replicate a crash with loadstone off, but i was planning to sleep soon so i dont really want to get into all that
foggy void
if i had more time and energy right now, i would try to replicate a crash with l...
I'll test rq since you said Imperium makes it more likely
Loadstone might not even really be as necessary anymore
it loads way faster without on v73
No crash
with it on or off with imperium
scenic ocean
Okay, just uploaded the recompiled update for this version.
v73 is actually using a new version of Unity HDRP due to updating the Unity version, when I have time again I'll need to look into if that changes anything significant. For now it just means I had to retarget the transpiler that Sponge was using.
Not sure if a recomp and transpiler fix will solve the issue you were having though, let me know if it keeps happening and I can dig deeper.
Or... I tried to upload it. Got a package rejected. I'll have to look into that.
Reason: Invalid submission is not the most descriptive.
rustic heath
Or... I tried to upload it. Got a package rejected. I'll have to look into that....
ask there
scenic ocean
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1229912303588212796
Thanks. Although, the rejection message has now vanished. So maybe it resolved itself?
I guess if someone could check and make sure they're able to see/download v1.1.11 of Sponge that would be great.
neat light
yeah if the message is gone that means a janitor saw it and approved it
it gets rejected automatically based on whatever it detects and yeah
happens to every update of my mod 🙃
thankfully the janitors are actively pretty fast
scenic ocean
That's good, it gave me a bit of a scare, haha
Never ran into that in the past, usually the uploader stops me if there's something glaringly wrong.
Anyway, the patch should be up, let me know if that resolves the issues.
neat light
dont worry, this will probably happen to every one of your uploads now 😆
raw tartan
<@260587965456056331> On v73 if you have both LethalSponge and TooManyEmotes pre...
I dont get crashes with both enabled on my V73 pack
foggy void
I dont get crashes with both enabled on my V73 pack
Sponge got updated, and yeah we found it was inconsistent
You're a bit late lol
raw tartan
Even yesterday i mean 😛
rigid rock
tranquil lake
Is there an option in this here's config to increase the render distance?
I want players in my modpack outside of the facility to see EVERYTHING while jetpacking
ornate reef
Is there an option in this here's config to increase the render distance?
i put one in for decal distance in my mod
oak quartz
I want players in my modpack outside of the facility to see **EVERYTHING** while...
no but you could use HDLCpatch or https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/NoLOD
pale narwhal
it depends on what you mean by "render distance"
several objects use LOD groups and get culled at faraway distances
pale narwhal
no but you could use HDLCpatch or https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAm...
so you'd need this to fix disappearing trees and such
pale narwhal
if you just mean "make the camera draw more stuff at a further distance before it turns into skybox" you'd need to increase the clip plane distance
which you could use cullfactory for
vanilla's value is 400 but anything 1000-2000 should be more than enough for basically every vanilla map
tranquil lake
so you'd need this to fix disappearing trees and such
Does it affect performance heavily, since all models will be at their highest poly count?
pale narwhal
i mean yeah cuz that's the point of the LODs to begin with
it'll be rendering more geometry at all distances
frustrum culling can help mitigate that somewhat
and that'll happen no matter what
rustic heath
Update?
scenic ocean
Okay, I finally had a bit of time and energy to do more reverse engineering. Complete rewrite of Sponge's replacement shader is done(ish). Pushing it up to thunderstore now.
### [1.2.0]
* Rewrote the replacement shader from scratch, basing it off the assembly of the original lethal company shader. It should be much closer now in visuals.
As you can see, the color balance is now nearly identical, and the way shadows are effected should be about the same as well.
There are still some differences, mainly related to lighting and fog, due to how this is a fullscreen shader instead of a per-object shader.
If I can get more time/energy I'll try to iron out the last few things (I think it's losing a little grunge on the color edge detection for some reason), but this should be 90% of the way there to the original shader, but without all the performance issues.
As this update is just to the shader, there shouldn't be any compat issues with other mods. It should still work fine with VR as well, as I'm still using the XR shader macros, but if someone could double check that I'd be grateful.
neat light
goated
mighty rapids
with the sauce aswell
sharp jackal
Is there a way to keep the outlines and use your shader?
scenic ocean
The new shader should have just about the same outlines as the base game.
fluid pelican
holy shit we're so back
scenic ocean
Interesting notes on Lethal Company's shader for anyone who cares about the technical bits:
- The 'Posterization' effect is actually just a Luminance check. Anything above a certain Luminance value is increased by 30%, anything below is reduced by 30%. This is what makes the obvious color band seen on the wall in the screenshot above.
- There's another check for overall brightness, and anything above that gets brightened even more (usually outside the noticeable range due to HDR). That makes the crazy highlight you can see on the wall from the lamp.
- There's two edge detections, both sobel filters, one for color and one for depth. The color edge evaluates R, G, and B separately and uses the one with the greatest edge. Both have post processing on the edges, where they are thresholded, smoothed, and color corrected.
- There's no HSL or HSV conversion. Everything is RGB HDR, with the exception of the Luminance cutoff.
And for anyone curious what the actual post processing values from the base game are for the edges:
_OutlineThickness = 0.001f
_DepthThreshold = 0.4f
_DepthCurve = 0.4f
_DepthStrength = 6f
_ColorThreshold = 0.47f
_ColorCurve = 2.94f
_ColorStrength = 0.65f
And if anyone's really curious, I've added the shader files to the github repo.
They were the only thing not on the repo before since they were managed by Unity and I didn't want to include the whole bloated Unity project on the repo.
foggy void
The new shader should have just about the same outlines as the base game.
Holy shit just looked at the screenshots and I can barely even tell the difference it looks practically 1:1
Hella nice job
scenic ocean
Fog/volumetrics is still going to be a bit different. I'll probably never be able to get that part 1:1 just due to the nature of the replacement. I'll have to see if I can get it closer though.
plush sierra
what u got is fantastic tho so erm
pale narwhal
As you can see, the color balance is now nearly identical, and the way shadows a...
this is really really impressive
pale narwhal
Fog/volumetrics is still going to be a bit different. I'll probably never be abl...
leaving this aside i think it's incredible either way
scenic notch
As this update is just to the shader, there shouldn't be any compat issues with ...
This doesn't do much of anything for VR since the game does not support Single Pass Instanced rendering. Need to fall back to Multipass rendering which works without the XR shader macros (but is significantly less performant)
bleak geyser
Its incredible
scenic ocean
This doesn't do much of anything for VR since the game does not support Single P...
Ah, damn. Well the shader is faster than the base game one even with multipass rendering, shame it can't get the added benefit of single pass.
strong lion
is this how things are supposed to look from far away
ive been using the sponge shader for so long idk if thats normal
neat light
how far away is dat
neat light
i think posting a screenshot of the entire screen would work :3
scenic ocean
you should be able to type /sponge shader in chat whenever to swap between the vanilla shader and sponge. So you can use that to see if the outlines are different
I'm assuming the issue in that screenshot is the fuzzy outlines on distant object, at least.
strong lion
ah here's a comparison
scenic ocean
That looks normal, I think? Likely the vanilla shader will have heavier fog
yeah
vanilla's fog is thicker, and it washes out the non-outline portions of distant objects
strong lion
yeah i guess thats the different
scenic ocean
That's going to be the main difference
strong lion
it looked like a really strong anti aliasing on some other moon but i guess its just vanilla
scenic ocean
I think I might be able to replicate that better if I tweak some more things, it will take some testing though.
As that part can't just be a 1:1 reverse engineering since the shaders happen at different portions of the render pipeline where volumetrics aren't as accessible. I've got some ideas to work around it though.
strong lion
left: sponge shader
right: vanilla
just further comparison i guess
the occupancy sign feels off and i dont know how to explain it
mighty rapids
left: sponge shader
right: vanilla
all i see is that the text shadows are a little thicker
but how the hell are you gonna notice that in normal gameplays
pale narwhal
https://tenor.com/view/eel-gif-19235352
this video always makes me a little happy
pale narwhal
left: sponge shader
right: vanilla
looks a little like venetian blinds
strong lion
but how the hell are you gonna notice that in normal gameplays
my tism
scenic ocean
left: sponge shader
right: vanilla
Huh, yeah the effect on the sign looks wrong. I'll try to figure out what's making the edge detection act like that on it. Vanilla's looks to have more sharpness on the lines.
mellow osprey
no shader vs shader
scenic ocean
Okay, found a major source of the discrepancy. I had missed that during the color sobel filter, the original shader is modifying everything by the camera's exposure value.
Still trying to find out why some of the edges get oddly thick/fuzzy though, but I should have another patch soon that will bring the edge rendering closer.
pale narwhal
just to let you know
zeekerss was experimenting with moving over to a fullscreen pass yesterday in the patreon channel
im not sure he's 100% committed yet but he's wanting to add some new objects that don't work well with the original renderers pass
but if that happens im sure it will have a very interesting effect on things
oak tinsel
As you can see, the color balance is now nearly identical, and the way shadows a...
does it work on v72? or only v73
foggy void
zeekerss was experimenting with moving over to a fullscreen pass yesterday in th...
I saw the pictures of the new shader and I currently dislike it, I like the fog volume changes and stuff but the toon outlines are way too thick and it looks odd rn, I hope he ends up toning it down cus it just doesn’t look right atm
I understand replacing it though and removing the old shader natively will optimize things a ton, just hope he manages to tone down the outlines cus I feel like those are the only thing that look weird rn
scenic ocean
does it work on v72? or only v73
Only v73 right now, since 73 messes with a lot of backwards compatibility.
scenic ocean
zeekerss was experimenting with moving over to a fullscreen pass yesterday in th...
That's actually super cool. Zeekers should absolutely be doing that.
If that goes through and is identical, the shader portion of sponge won't be needed anymore. If Zeeker's new shader isn't identical, I'll probably keep sponge's in as a way to have the old shader.
Maybe I'll reach out to Zeekers and offer this shader, if I can iron out these last few bits.
foggy void
He's also gonna be adding in new Skyboxes so Atlas shouldn't be necessary anymore after, seems like that default google maps skybox is gonna be removed lol
scenic ocean
Figured out why the edges are fuzzy, it's due to resolution. I hadn't noticed it much while testing because I test in windowed usually, but since I moved the color sobel over to a sampler instead of a direct load it was being effected by the games' resolution.
Original shader only works on the 860x520 rendertarget of the camera, so running the new shader at 1920x1080 was essentially doubling the color line thickness.
foggy void
Or at least reused way less
foggy void
Figured out why the edges are fuzzy, it's due to resolution. I hadn't noticed it...
oh lol
Tbh I didn't even really notice it
scenic ocean
Just trying a few things so I can sample from the exact same rendertexture as the original shader, then it should be ready for another patch
I may have also fixed volumetric lighting and fog? I need to test that more afterwards
foggy void
Hell yeah 
scenic ocean
I think it's a good sign when I can no longer see anything changing when I do the "/sponge shader" command
with and without the new shader at 1080p
balmy spire
that's amazing
scenic ocean
Okay, the last thing is properly accounting for fog. It's closer, but getting a bit too bright now.
mellow osprey
wow thats pixel perfect
balmy spire
a quick question: is the "old" shader gonna be available? it worked with blackout weather just perfectly and - if it's possible - i would love to have an option to use it 🥺
scenic ocean
I can move the previous sponge shader into the 'legacy' slot, so you can toggle it.
Does anyone still use the existing legacy shader, the very first sponge one that has an option in the config? If not I can just replace that with the previous shader.
foggy void
with and without the new shader at 1080p
🔥
pale narwhal
I can move the previous sponge shader into the 'legacy' slot, so you can toggle ...
i think it has kind of a cool psychedelic effect
i used to use it on another friend's mod pack but that was like months ago and i dont really care if it gets removed
i just think the weird colored outlines are silly lol
lucid solar
with and without the new shader at 1080p
are these the same image? the text in the upper left corner is the same on both of them
scenic ocean
oh, huh. that does look to be the case
Here's two actually different images
I think everything is identical except 1 final thing now.
The original shader doesn't touch the skybox at all, but sponge's fullscreen does. I have to see if there's any way I can exclude it.
I think I can do something with the depth buffer in order to exclude it.
Okay, I'm actually really confident now that this is 1:1 with the original shader.
including fog
lucid solar
hell yeah, looks great
scenic ocean
This update will change the default of the volumetricCompensation config to False, as the new shader no longer needs to compensate any volumetric differences.
The new shader also doesn't need the custom injection point that I had added a while back, but I'll keep that in so the legacy shader still works.
scenic ocean
With this, you might be able to run the new shader on versions before v73 as well, since the new shader doesn't use the injection point anymore.
Haven't tested that myself, but the injection point was the only breaking change from v73.
Just pushed 1.3.0 up to thunderstore. At this point, if the shader looks different than base game, let me know here since that's a bug. It should be 1:1 in all cases now.
### [1.3.0]
* Finished reverse engineering the original shader. The new shader should now be 1:1 with the original.
* Moved the previous shader into the Legacy slot, accessible in the config.
* Defaulted Volumetric Compensation to false, as it's no longer needed.
* Disabled a number of transpilers and patches when not using the Legacy Shader, since they're not needed anymore.
Actually, there's one final case where it won't be 1:1, which is cases where mods excluded models from being shaded. Usually skin mods I think.
The new shader will affect everything at the moment. I do know how I can fix that as well though, if I make a mask based on materialID or layer or something, then exclude based on that.
I think the most popular case of that is from ModelReplacementAPI? I don't use skins generally, so if someone else knows more about what mods are bypassing the original shader and how, I can start thinking on how to support that.
pale narwhal
this is unbelievably impressive
i absolutely can't tell a difference anymore
and i can feel a definite performance improvement
tepid chasm
Has anyone tried this with lethalelements? Im curious if the snow still looks the same
tranquil lake
Just pushed 1.3.0 up to thunderstore. At this point, if the shader looks differe...
Holy fuck this is baller
Pawesome job
oak quartz
Has anyone tried this in a bright moon? XD
the moon IS bright
tepid chasm
Thats where its the most noticeable
oak quartz
normally
oak quartz
Try in motra pls
tepid chasm
Thats the only place i was able to get the snow as black as i could
Other moons can be less noticeable
oak quartz
Other moons can be less noticeable
oak quartz
Did you check?
tepid chasm
:(
burnt belfry
including fog
wow this is insanely good
hopefully zeekerss will take a look at this if they're going to be changing the shader
oak quartz
hopefully zeekerss will take a look at this if they're going to be changing the ...
he doesnt look at mods for the mostpart
he likes to seperate himself from them generally
scenic ocean
If the lethalelements snow is acting odd, it probably just wasn't affected by the base game shader and is being caught by Sponge's now. I need to add some kind of masking option next so that things can be excluded from the new shader.
I'll have to think on it for a bit, but I might be able to make it a config option, so you can personally set what layers/objects you want excluded.
oak quartz
If the lethalelements snow is acting odd, it probably just wasn't affected by th...
actually a issue with the base mod as well haha, tho yeah the older shader seemed to kinda fix it
at its root its an issue that pacho has to fix on LE's end
but he has a lot of projects lol
foggy void
If the lethalelements snow is acting odd, it probably just wasn't affected by th...
The LE Snow is not a Sponge issue
It's a v73 problem
stiff sapphire
If the lethalelements snow is acting odd, it probably just wasn't affected by th...
I dunno exactly what changed in v73 that made snow look goofy, I know rebuilding a bundle with the new Unity version is supposed to fix it but I can't exactly do that without the original project
I think last time I was looking into it I was experimenting with changing a bunch of material properties at runtime, but I dunno what'd actually fix it
tepid chasm
If the lethalelements snow is acting odd, it probably just wasn't affected by th...
Yes sorry, LE snow is v73 issue, something changed with the shaders and completely messed up the snow, i was wondering since you remade it, maybe it magically got fixed but yeah
Nothing to do with sponge
scenic ocean
Interesting, I wonder what changed so much. I know that v73 is using a newer version of Unity HDRP.
oak quartz
Interesting, I wonder what changed so much. I know that v73 is using a newer ver...
shaders on some older moons also broke
foggy void
Interesting, I wonder what changed so much. I know that v73 is using a newer ver...
The HDRP version update is why some Shaders are borked, it's fixed by having the moon or said other thing be re-exported on the updated Unity build
pale narwhal
there appears to be a problem with v1.3.0 where enabling "disable reflections" under rendering settings completely blacks out everything
screenshots are from a fresh profile with only sponge, only change from default is enabling that setting
it "looks just fine" if you disable that setting so not a huge deal. i also dont use the setting on my main profile, only another one intended for use by a friend with really low end hardware
but if it's a hassle to fix, probably the setting should just be entirely removed, i guess?
scenic ocean
I'll take a look into that, but yeah if I can't figure it out I'll remove that config. Wonder why reflections would mess with the shader like that.
fluid pelican
some textures are still doing some funnies with sponge it seems (left is sponge, right is vanilla)
neat light
where is this? scoops probably would need the place to test stuff like that
fluid pelican
Solitude, from beanie
faint zodiac
i can confirm
genuinely no clue why this happens
that area is a bit grainy compared to normal textures in vanilla but sponge for some reason makes it constantly shifting beige static
faint zodiac
hmm… what moon is that
rustic heath
also weird grainy effect on Forsaken leaves and trees
ornate reef
i have noticed the shadows look far more flickery than usual in still scenes when fps isnt a consistent number
scenic ocean
I'll take a look at those moons and see what's causing that
foggy void
I'll take a look at those moons and see what's causing that
The issue with Forsaken wasn't you
It was something Luna fixed
scenic ocean
Okay, but the solitude one looks to be, so I'll look into that
foggy void
Yeah dunno what is going on with Solitude lol
scenic ocean
Solitude with/without sponge looks identical to me
fluid pelican
@faint zodiac was the one testing
oak quartz
<@856689661149184000> was the one testing
maybe he had the legacy one on?
scenic ocean
I'm thinking they might have legacy on, or another setting
scenic ocean
i can confirm
Did you have any alternate Sponge configs enabled?
faint zodiac
Solitude with/without sponge looks identical to me
i was using the updated sponge version
faint zodiac
Did you have any alternate Sponge configs enabled?
default configs
i didnt touch any configs
do i need to opt-in to something?
rustic heath
The issue with Forsaken wasn't you
uhm, afaik it was not?
Beanie specified that it was not forsaken fault?
faint zodiac
oak quartz
default configs
my current settings that look fine
foggy void
uhm, afaik it was not?
Beanie specified that it was not forsaken fault?
I saw Luna update it and say the issue was on them idk
faint zodiac
is the top one not meant to be on by default?
scenic ocean
The top one should be on, that's what actually enables the shader
foggy void
These are the correct settings
rustic heath
I saw Luna update it and say the issue was on them idk
file optimization and correct files update
foggy void
my current settings that look fine
This is wrong lol
faint zodiac
hmm. why did it look bad for me then... ill test again
scenic ocean
Hmm, what other mods are you running?
rustic heath
it doesn't have nothing to do with the grain texture
scenic ocean
Maybe there's another mod causing something
faint zodiac
Hmm, what other mods are you running?
basically only imperium, which i just removed to see if it was that somehow
loading in again
scenic ocean
because for me this is how it looks, Sponge on left vanilla on right
oak quartz
This is wrong lol
I think I had posterization off bc of the earlier versions
I should prob change that lol
since before it was bugging something for me
uncut slate
I think the custom shader does not activate if disable posterization is enabled
oak quartz
I think the custom shader does not activate if disable posterization is enabled
it seemed to before? ig ive been playing without it for a while
scenic ocean
there's one specific part where it looks like this
I'll walk over there and check, thanks
oak quartz
XD
uncut slate
it seemed to before? ig ive been playing without it for a while
If you hover over custom shader, it says something like, requires removed posterization to be enabled. I could be wrong though.
faint zodiac
its sorta gone?
pale narwhal
it seemed to before? ig ive been playing without it for a while
if disable posterization shader is disabled, none of the custom shader stuff is enabled
because you have to disable the posterization shader or lethal's vanilla shader will draw and there's no reason to replace it in that case
oak quartz
if disable posterization shader is disabled, none of the custom shader stuff is ...
im going to commit die
pale narwhal
the *4 settings after "remove posterization shader" are all dependent on it being enabled
faint zodiac
(near main)
im actually not getting this anymore but it might be because of stormy
fluid pelican
i had clear weather
fluid pelican
oh maybe it's imperium
faint zodiac
YEP
fluid pelican
lemme check without
faint zodiac
its gotta be imperium then
no no no i did it without
before it looked like yours
then i removed it
scenic ocean
Oh wait, I'm seeing some static looking stuff by main
faint zodiac
and its this
scenic ocean
it looks like it might be that area?
faint zodiac
imperium is probably the issue
scenic ocean
vanilla does that too though
well, maybe vanilla without sponge doesn't
let me test a few more times
Might be some other sponge setting messing with both shaders
fluid pelican
still the same without imperium
faint zodiac
from my testing, the new shader you made runs fine without imperium
rustic heath
There are like 2 really near to main
pale narwhal
i mean, i would be confused on how imperium would impact the rendering in this scenario
rustic heath
let me get a video
scenic ocean
I've had Imperium impact other parts of sponge, but this should be unrelated.
I think it has to be weather related or something
If it's being inconsistent
fluid pelican
mine are all in clear weather
scenic ocean
Okay, just to be certain on my end
fluid pelican
i lit downloaded in a fresh profile
scenic ocean
Left is vanilla shader, right is sponge
I'm getting it on both
scenic ocean
Let me try without sponge completely
faint zodiac
what is happening bro
how do i not have it
but
both of you
this hurts my head
scenic ocean
This is wild. I have no idea what would cause this to not appear sometimes
fluid pelican
maybe it's drive issue like amd/nvidia (would be odd but... idk)
fluid pelican
same
fluid pelican
only these mods btw
scenic ocean
Aha, without sponge it doesn't show.
I think it's a different sponge option that's causing this, unrelated to the shader
fluid pelican
getting the same results
scenic ocean
this is with no sponge at all
time to mess with other sponge options and see what could be doing this
foggy void
Interesting
fluid pelican
hmmm maybe the resize textures?
scenic ocean
Oh, that's a good thought, if the ground texture is really big
scenic ocean
I think that's it? I'm not seeing it
foggy void
Oh so the texture resize is also affecting moons lolol
@fluid pelican Since most moons use 2k textures, increasing the size to 2048 should fix it
faint zodiac
OHH OF COURSE ITS TEXTURE RESIZE
faint zodiac
Yeah i had that off i think?
foggy void
Yeah, the sand and grass normals are 2k textures
Yeah you prolly should just change the default to 2k ig
faint zodiac
so without it, it just goes to uh
fluid pelican
idk how sponge resizes them but it's making them tweak
faint zodiac
pixels
scenic ocean
Probably, people with really bad machines can just put it back at 1k
foggy void
idk how sponge resizes them but it's making them tweak
Sponge is crunching them down to 1k is why
faint zodiac
maybe have texture resize off at default
but make a big suggestion in the description
foggy void
maybe have texture resize off at default
Nah because typically a 4k texture getting downscaled to 2k is fine
faint zodiac
Nah because typically a 4k texture getting downscaled to 2k is fine
is 2k the current default?
fluid pelican
Sponge is crunching them down to 1k is why
i do resize them in editor and they're fine, but maybe it's because it's done on runtime or something
foggy void
Possibly
scenic ocean
I've seen some horrifying 8k textures in mods, so I'd like it to stay on by default, but moving it up to 2k is fine
I'll patch it to be 2k default now
faint zodiac
I've seen some horrifying 8k textures in mods, so I'd like it to stay on by defa...
this seems like the best idea
although 8k textures have got to be rare jesus christ
foggy void
Some older scrap mods and such have huge textures
neat light
I was given a 16k texture for the old meteor shower model iirc
faint zodiac
I was given a 16k texture for the old meteor shower model iirc
b- b- b- buuuhhhhh????
scenic ocean
I should actually also be checking out the resize method, because it looks like the resize is doing more than just downscaling, at least for normal maps
I might have a bug with normal resizing in particular
faint zodiac
I might have a bug with normal resizing in particular
definitely might be whats going on here
fluid pelican
can you test Forsaken moon?
scenic ocean
It's ending up a way lighter shade
foggy void
Oh odd
scenic ocean
so I think sponge's normal resize has a bug
faint zodiac
It's ending up a way lighter shade
what the hell
rustic heath
yup, it was that
scenic ocean
I'll put out a patch to increase default to 2k, then look into what the resize is doing wrong as well
oh, wait... it's totally changing the file format. It's resizing into R8G8B8A8_SRGB and not BC7_UNORM
I've got some work to do on that
fluid pelican
we learn something new everyday
scenic ocean
Wish there was a good way to make new Bepin config defaults override old values.
2k default will only affect fresh installs, people with it already set will need to change manually
neat light
Making a new config option always works... Lol
scenic ocean
Yeah, but then it just gets so messy.
Because the old options stay as like, phantom configs for people who had them
neat light
Wut, you don't clear orphaned configs?
foggy void
Wut, you don't clear orphaned configs?
A handful of configs don't have an option for this surprisingly
neat light
I mean it's a code thing not a thing you'd see
I've never seen a mod without auto clearing of orphaned options
scenic ocean
Does bepin have a setting for that built in? It shouldn't be too hard to write myself if not I guess.
neat light
Does bepin have a setting for that built in? It shouldn't be too hard to write m...
Was easier to find the file than the thread tbh
scenic ocean
Oh, I see there's an example on the modding wiki now too. That's really nice.
I'll just add that in with this patch then.
neat light
Ye
scenic ocean
Damn, so Bepin actually just saves a property called "OrphanedEntries" but doesn't expose any way to clear it without reflection?
scenic ocean
Okay, just pushed up the patch with the new default maxTextureSize, time to look into the texture resizing method and why it messes so much with normals.
oak quartz
A handful of configs don't have an option for this surprisingly
my dumbass realize cause of yall sponge's renderer wasnt helping my performance bc it wasnt on 😭
its all be placebo
scenic ocean
Okay, found a fix for the normal static on resizing as well, so anyone who needs to resize textures below 2k won't have to deal with that.
It wasn't regenerating mipmaps, which was the issue.
faint zodiac
Okay, found a fix for the normal static on resizing as well, so anyone who needs...
hoorah
scenic ocean
Uploading 1.3.2 to thunderstore with the fix now
Now to look into that disabled reflection issue. I think that was the only other reported issue at the moment.
scenic ocean
there appears to be a problem with v1.3.0 where enabling "disable reflections" u...
Huh... Disabling reflections also has the same effect on the vanilla shader when swapping.
Maybe v73 changed something about HDRP reflections on cameras?
scenic ocean
Oh my goodness, it was because I had accidentally reused the disable reflection config for refraction.
I'll just remove the refraction disabling option, since that seems to not work (maybe because of the helmet?)
foggy void
Oh my goodness, it was because I had accidentally reused the disable reflection ...
prolly
scenic ocean
Okay, just uploaded 1.3.3 with the fix for disabling reflections.
foggy void
You're cooking today Scoops it's good to see lol
plush sierra
goat
scenic ocean
Finally getting around to finishing the reverse engineering gave me a lot of energy for the project, haha.
Wasn't sure I'd ever get the shader this exact tbh.
sharp jackal
It's really impressive the work you've done, I can't notice the difference between vanilla and the shader you made. Congrats 👏 👏 👏
pearl condor
@scenic ocean Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of the game's shader, and what impresses me particularly is that it seems like you were able to sample the volumetric fog into your shader to lessen the depth outlines. I'm using Shader Graphs (because shader code is way beyond me), just copied the original shader nodes into a fullscreen version, and now I'm stuck with this look. I wonder how you dealt with that. (But at this point, I wonder if I could just use your solution?) 
foggy void
<@260587965456056331> Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of th...
Hey Zeekerss So amazing to see you in here
tepid chasm
XD
fluid pelican
<@260587965456056331> Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of th...
it would help a lot with performance, i can't believe zeekers himself here wow, scoop it's your moment
foggy void
Yeah Scoops did an amazing job at doing the shader, she talked about giving you the shader to use ^^
oak quartz
I never expected to see zeekers here XD
tepid chasm
this was not on my bingo card, 2025 is wild wow :0
nimble pendant
<@260587965456056331> Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of th...
Unrelated, but you should lurk around this server!
Might be able to get some inspiration from what people here have made
mighty rapids
being more involved with the modding scene is healthy for every game 
rustic cliff
yeah, cool to see the dev himself in this server at least!
nimble pendant
vital crater
<@260587965456056331> Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of th...
update your game!
tepid chasm
😔
versed orbit
Holy shit it's zeekers
rustic heath
update your game!
And that's why we can't have cool things
oak quartz
update your game!
vital crater
it's the truth that needed to be said
rustic cliff
update your game!
hey chat can we jump this guy?
oak quartz
no?
tepid chasm
rustic cliff
ok
wary solstice
Zeekers is gone for a year now
rustic cliff
yay
foggy void
update your game!
Be nice
stiff sapphire
stiff sapphire
We should avoid talking in here so Scoops doesn't have to scroll through 300 unrelated messages
rustic cliff
sorry Scoops lol
mighty rapids
update your game!
tepid chasm
scoops wondering why the thread got so many messages
sharp jackal
bro really thought it was a good idea to say that when Zeek is clearly working on it and is here asking for help
mighty rapids
"iT's tHe tRUTh" how about you become a mudskipper huh
wary solstice
Anyway when scoops comes online this is the message #1345089401100701778 message
tepid chasm
100% ragebait, stop giving it more attention, we have bigger fish on the plate hehehe :3
wary solstice
Because the thread kinda imploded
light ether
100% ragebait, stop giving it more attention, we have bigger fish on the plate h...
whoops
tepid chasm
gen im gonna
tepid chasm
ki (ss/ll) you
light ether
gen im gonna
faint zodiac
hi zeekler
pearl condor
hi
faint zodiac
thank you for saying hi zeekler that made my day
mighty rapids
w zeekler 🩹❤️
fluid pelican
it's really nice seeing you here zeeks :3
faint zodiac
you have truly changed my tiny beanie life for the better ❤️
ivory breach
Glad to see you around 
faint zodiac
it's really nice seeing you here zeeks :3
i agree!!!
oak quartz
Hope scoops is online soon
wary solstice
foggy void
Hope so too, he might be sleeping rn in which case I am sure he'll respond as soon as he wakes up ^^
pearl condor
<@260587965456056331> Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of th...
Okay I figured out how to put your shader in the game, so I think all I'd need now is your permission. I'll put your name in the credits, unless you wouldn't want that
rustic heath
Oh. That's neat
foggy void
Okay I figured out how to put your shader in the game, so I think all I'd need n...
I think he would be okay with it, he did talk about giving you the shader ^^
faint zodiac
Awesome!!! I love optimization
mighty rapids
we are looking 👀
tepid chasm
lets wait for scoops reply
rustic cliff
neat
faint zodiac
What does the shader do differently?
its one less pass
fluid pelican
It's a single shader pass instead of per object if i remember correctly
foggy void
Scoops is here 😄
mighty rapids
there we go!!
ivory breach
scenic ocean
<@260587965456056331> Hey, I was working on my own fullscreen-pass version of th...
Woah! It's awesome to see you here. And yeah, I'd be honored to have you use the shader in the main game.
light ether
beautiful moment
foggy void
Yeah we love seeing Zeekerss in here
faint zodiac
Lets all hold hands and sing
scenic ocean
Okay I figured out how to put your shader in the game, so I think all I'd need n...
My username (Scoops) in the credits would be more than enough. I'm just happy that the shader can help more people enjoy the game.
versed orbit
This day will be remembered
fluid pelican
dad i made it, i was here
faint zodiac
This day will be remembered
currently storing it deep within the recesses of my brain
pearl condor
Hoorayyy thank you!!
oak quartz
My username (Scoops) in the credits would be more than enough. I'm just happy th...
yeah it made the game run so well with my monster of a modpack
thx for it
rustic heath
Scoops rn
light ether
we love you zeekers! good luck on whatever you're up to now ❤️
versed orbit
^
rustic cliff
^
foggy void
^
wary solstice
scenic ocean
Hoorayyy thank you!!
You can DM me on discord anytime if you want any additional changes to the shader or anything else. Super happy to have the chance for it to be in base game.
plush sierra
thats goat
fluid pelican
we'll let you cook zeeks, we are all very thrilled to see what you do
versed orbit
Aye excited for whatever is next
fluid pelican
also @scenic ocean congrats you ARE the star here and now
wary solstice
Wesley monster update next 🔥
mighty rapids
This truly was... The Lethal Sponge.
stiff sapphire
*roll credits*
light ether
maybe the real lethal was the company we made along the way.,,,,.,
tepid chasm
and everyone lived happily ever after
faint zodiac
\*roll credits\*
whos gonna be in the post credit scene
tepid chasm
this is the calm before the storm
faint zodiac
Can i be the painting on the wall in the post credits
mighty rapids
whos gonna be in the post credit scene
light ether
whos gonna be in the post credit scene
can we get manule
fluid pelican
This truly was... The Lethal Sponge.
faint zodiac
can we get manule
yes…
light ether
faint zodiac
happoy
west vessel
what does this mean for the lethalsponge economy
ivory breach
what does this mean for the lethalsponge economy
Stonks go up
light ether
what does this mean for the lethalsponge economy
does this mean no more lethal sponge
stiff sapphire
does this mean no more lethal sponge
It does other stuff
ivory breach
does this mean no more lethal sponge
It still has a custom shader and some other stuff
light ether
i do not use lethal sponge so i did not know
oak quartz
does this mean no more lethal sponge
it had other stuff this is mainly the optimized shader
fluid pelican
It would mean that the shader would not be there, but sponge has some other really neat stuffs there
stiff sapphire
Texture compression for instance
LethalSponge KILLS my comically long texture that I scroll through to animate it 😔
fluid pelican
the light range limit/decal distance/shame optimizer etc etc
light ether
shame optimizer?
fluid pelican
yes
light ether
what
stiff sapphire
Shame
light ether
what is that
fluid pelican
it's not shame, mesh**
tepid chasm
imagine having to remove a feature from your mod because its now in the base game
crazy
fluid pelican
my autocorrect jumped
light ether
it's not shame, mesh**
stiff sapphire
imagine having to remove a feature from your mod because its now in the base gam...
Bugfix mods:
sharp jackal
Imagine if in the next days Zeekerss also implemented some fixes from other mods
fluid pelican
my phone did......
sharp jackal
wary solstice
scenic ocean
It's crazy. But yeah, Lethal Sponge will still have the other features. I'll likely just drop the shader once it's in base game.
Tbh I could also leave it, for people running older versions. We'll see how it works out.
ivory breach
Absolute Company
wary solstice
Absolute stinkboy
fluid pelican
ivory breach
Absolute stinkboy
Gdi Atomic
light ether
It's crazy. But yeah, Lethal Sponge will still have the other features. I'll lik...
tbf
once zeekers updates twice you cant downgrade via steam anymore
which is mildly unfortunate for the v72 locked mods
oak quartz
It's crazy. But yeah, Lethal Sponge will still have the other features. I'll lik...
I mean if they are running old versions they have to downgrade mods anyways
wary solstice
Can we ask Zeekers to add a beta branch for v72
oak quartz
so they can just downgrade to before its removed
faint zodiac
Can we ask Zeekers to add a beta branch for v72
as a permanent one? Maybe, seems logical
light ether
Can we ask Zeekers to add a beta branch for v72
that would be nice
oak quartz
as a permanent one? Maybe, seems logical
idk id be a good idea since the whole reason for the switch was the unity security problem
and leaving a vulnerable version choosable
wary solstice
Disable lobby browsing 
oak quartz
Disable lobby browsing <:perceive:1208563314842533918>
true
wary solstice
Invite only
faint zodiac
idk id be a good idea since the whole reason for the switch was the unity securi...
wait no i meant v73
oak quartz
wait no i meant v73
why v73?
faint zodiac
why v73?
that way if future updates break stuff we could default back to it
at any time
faint zodiac
meh
oak quartz
ye
light ether
v73 is when the mods broke
tidal lagoon
cant believe that my pc being so bad we couldnt play our modpack ended up being the butterfly wingflap scoops needed to get her name in the credits
faint zodiac
not worth it really
tidal lagoon
lets fuckin go
faint zodiac
v73 is when the mods broke
most are fixed now
fluid pelican
i think leaving v72 there as a beta would be nice, but v73 was a security update idk if it's such a good idea
oak quartz
cant believe that my pc being so bad we couldnt play our modpack ended up being ...
I mean they ended up making a mainstay performance mod 
like one those mods everyone should use
ofc it had a lot of things to work out but its in a really good state XD
ivory breach
Disable lobby browsing <:perceive:1208563314842533918>
Scannode fadeaways 
Also get your filthy paws off my name Atomic 
tidal lagoon
yeah she worked so crazy hard on it
when we started to peel back the surface to figure out why things were so bad for me she just started tweaking stuff and never stopped
super proud
was initially just there to sponge up memory leaks but here we are
leaden aurora
Also shoutout Buttery for mentioning it as an option a couple times whenever Zeekerss was talking about messing with the shaders
neat light
That's amazing congrats scoops
Also this was super awesome, hopefully zeekerss interacts more with the modding community eventually, we all big fans 🥺
loud remnant
why few messages has multiple reactions
what's going o- oh shit it's zeekerss 
I see, congrats and happy for u scoops
tepid chasm
Guys i had the craziest dream, i dreamed that zeekers himself showed up and was asking for scoops shaders to add them in base game
Really specific dream but crazy
neat light
Dats a crazy dream, if only...
tepid chasm
If only zeekers was real 😔
loud remnant
snap back to reality
ivory breach
snap back to reality
Oh there goes gravity
tepid chasm
Mom spaghetti
torpid wave
@scenic ocean grats on having your work added to the base game! I've been using your mod in my lobbies for a long time now and its been a great performance booster with no drawbacks. Coming from the competitive high quota community, we play previous versions a bunch and having the latest version of the mod support older versions of the game would be amazing! Definitely something worth considering if you're otherwise done with creating the mod.
Thank you again for your excellent work ❤️
bleak geyser
I thought High Quota should be played without mods
foggy void
I thought High Quota should be played without mods
There's some mods that the High Quota community allows
warm solstice
Congratulations Scoops
tepid chasm
There's some mods that the High Quota community allows
Imperium
ornate reef
Code rebutrth
torpid wave
Theres a modded high quota section for Wesley's Moons, brutal company and some older custom moons
neat light
Code rebutrth
cuhde rebuhrtuh
scenic ocean
<@260587965456056331> grats on having your work added to the base game! I've bee...
The way the new shader works should be able to function on older versions of the game. I'll do some testing and see what I can do about making it available for previous versions.
torpid wave
thank you so much 🔥 thats amazing to hear
robust folio
did i miss something? why is shader going in base game? what about post credits scene?
is zeek back?
balmy spire
is zeek back?
#1345089401100701778 message
robust folio
thats crazy
hey im making a potato edition of my pack for a friend, is turning off posterization the most optimized option?
or does it make any difference
oak quartz
thats crazy
posterization off is what allows the custom optimized shader to run
so yes have it on
you wont notice
robust folio
sorry i meant the optimized shader
idk lmao just which options are best to change for max performance
sorry i shouldve started with that
oak quartz
sorry i meant the optimized shader
the shader is identical looking to vanilla
just runs better
robust folio
yea but would it run better off
this guys on a laptop i gotta do all i can
he runs at 30 and hes content with that but i need him to run at 60 or ill feel guilty
oak quartz
yea but would it run better off
wait is his refreshrate on his laptop even 60?