Quota Overhaul

[late anchor]

The goal of Quota Overhaul is to make the quota system as fun, rewarding, and configurable as possible. I've taken inspiration from several existing mods, added some stuff of my own, with some community input sprinkled on top.

Features

Quota Settings

In vanilla, there are internal variables to control several aspects of the quota. All of these variables are now configurable:

• Starting Quota
• Starting Credits
• Base Quota Increase
• Quota Increase Steepness
• Qutoa Randomness Multiplier
• Quota Deadline Days

Player Count Scaling

The quota increases the more players you have. This should make high player counts more balanced. The scaling is always based on the highes number of concurrent players seen during that quota, to avoid exploits. Very configurable.

Configurable Credit Fines

You can toggle fines on and off, change the percent fine per dead player, or use the new Dynamic Mode, which is more configurable and scales based on the number of players online (specifically, the record player count on a given moon run).

Increase Quota on Death

You get penalties to the quota for dying! This is intended to replace losing all your scrap when all players die, and maybe the credit fines if you want. Configurable with the same options as credit fines.

Loot Saving

You can keep all your hard earned scrap, set a 50/50 chance for each precious piece loot, lose it all, or anything in between.

Equipment Loss

You could also risk your handy equipment for an extra punishing experience.

Credits

Quota Overhaul takes inspiration from:

• Quota Tweaks by mrov
• Save Our Loot by MrHydralisk
• Custom Death Penalty by ImpulsiveLass

Check out the github repo to see the roadmap, report bugs and submit your ideas for quota related features!

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LuciusofLegend/QuotaOverhaul/
https://github.com/LuciusofLegend/QuotaOverhaul/tree/1.1.0

[late anchor]

Quota Overhaul

This is currently in alpha and I've only done a light amount of testing, but I hope it works alright for yall!

[brave tartan]

?modder 796759857855987742

[zealous drum]

Added role Modder to luciusoflegend

Yay! @late anchor you've been assigned the modder role. Head to #role-picker to select which type of modding you're interested and active in.

[late anchor]

👌

[sinful rivet]

Think you forgot dependencies in the manifest :b

[late anchor]

Yeah I'm going to get that fixed today

I'm using the mod template, and from what I read on the page, I thought it would do that automatically

I only found out late last night

[late anchor]

Also need to make an icon

I'm thinking like a Q with wings or something could be cool

[native salmon]

Yo this looks SEXY

[late anchor]

Hell yeah!

[zealous oxide]

Downloaded. Thanks for making this!

[eager oriole]

since the icon has not been fully thought out yet. It might give you some ideas.

[plucky grove]

Hello! I'll be testing this mod :]
I hope it's compatible with GeneralImprovements QuotaRollover

[late anchor]

I don't know anything about GeneralImprovements but it probably doesn't work with quota rollover?

Oh wait you're saying the quota rollover feature of GeneralImprovements?

[late anchor]

My mind just conjured an "and" there

[plucky grove]

sadly I got a softlock with this mod :,]

[late anchor]

Hmm

I'm gonna test the loot saving features but then I'd be down to try to fix that

[crimson frost]

Working well, ty we play in 5-8 players so it's a must have

[late anchor]

Very nice!

I actually ran into an issue while playtesting, and I'm curious it this happens to you as well

With dynamic quota penalties enabled, when some players die but others survive, it's supposed to penalize you based on how many people died. But for me it would always apply the maximum penalty.

[late anchor]

Actually I just had a cool idea for the icon

A little arrow going up kind of like quota tweaks but the left side is pixelated and the right side is higher resolution?

[summer oasis]

Hey I'm not sure if you already have this - haven't had a chance to try this mod yet but looks awesome - but do you have a config option to change fines based on bodies recovered?

[late anchor]

Yeah you can change that

[late anchor]

Anyone interested in QuotaOverhaul should check out the #1328118636895801384 thread by the way. There are some very interesting ideas being thrown out there about a modpack to create a nicer game flow.

[summer oasis]

ty I'll check that out!

[crimson frost]

Yeah i can confirm that, I set "Penalty Per Player = 5" but we get an enormous quota increase

After 6 moons we reach like 3200+ quota

[late anchor]

Well damn

I never tested per player mode honestly

[dire notch]

@late anchor There's an issue: items outside the ship don't despawn.

I think it has to do with the LootSave mechanic.

[late anchor]

That would yeah

Interesting

[dire notch]

Could you add an option to disable it until you fix the issue? Even when I set all the chances to 0, the issue persists.

[late anchor]

Sure yeah

[dire notch]

@late anchor One more thing: could you add a mechanic that combines penalties and loot saving? Basically, the penalty removes random scrap which, in total, equal the penalty.

[late anchor]

Interesting

I got a suggestion through a github issue to combine credit penalties and quota penalties

That might provide the kind of result you want

There's a link to the github on the thunderstore page and above you can check it out if you want

[late anchor]

I guess you're talking about value save but it's dynamically based on how many players die?

[dire notch]

Yes.

[late anchor]

Ok, I can do that

It'll work like the penalty systems, and if someone wants to recreate the current value save functionaity they can use the threshold value

[dire notch]

I mean, I assume it depreciates the value of scrap?

That'd be the best of both worlds, really. If everyone dies, you don't lose all your scrap, but instead recieve a severe reduction in its value

[late anchor]

I don't know, it all seems the same to me

[dire notch]

You could make it where the amount of times people die affects the company rate

That sounds simple enough

[late anchor]

Quota penalties are very simple honestly

[dire notch]

alr

[late anchor]

And by the way, they use an additive algorithm, not a multiplicative one

And they're just for the current quota

Like, if you've played with Custom Death Penalty, in that mod you could rack up crazy quotas really fast

I don't know, I just mention it if you were worried about that kind of thing

[dire notch]

nah

I'm fine with it

[late anchor]

Just so you know, I would be totally open to implementing these things in the future, as long as it actually affects gameplay. I'm not seeing the difference right now but I might be wrong.

[dire notch]

It's all good. Quota penalties work best, as they are simple to understand.

Btw, make sure to check if the LootSave mechanic is working properly. The bug I encountered may be a symptom of something else.

[late anchor]

I'm not set up very comfortably at the moment, so it may be a bit before I get to these bugs

[crimson frost]

+1

[late anchor]

Oof

I uploaded a new version that should let you toggle the offending patch

Ok so I forgot to upload the binary in that release

Anyway

I tested this but for me outside items despawn just fine

Maybe you guys could send me your modpack codes?

Also something you can do is check the logs. For me, it logs each outside item like this:
[Info :QuotaOverhaul] RubberDucky(Clone) Lost Outside

Actually it is a little weird

The unity log shows a bunch of props despawned (like vanilla would I think), and then QuotaOverhaul logs them separately

I don't think unity should be logging the despawns directly here

Also it throws a warning for each prop, which exists because of a past issue that I fixed:
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Error/warning: RubberDucky(Clone) prop was not spawned or did not have a NetworkObject component! Skipped despawning and destroyed it instead.

I guess the point is it would help if you send logs so I can check for differences between yours and mine

[late anchor]

Actually, I found how I messed this up

And also probably why it says prop was not spawned

I should be able to properly test it in a second

[late anchor]

Also because of the same thing this version doesn't actually let you toggle the Death Penalty patch lol

[dire notch]

Will do

[late anchor]

Ok I've reproduced the bug now

The logs look exactly as I would expect, so no easy answers there

LMAO

I just straight up don't call the despawn function 🤦‍♂️

Well thanks for the bug report should be fixed in about 2 seconds

Yep it's done, I'm gonna take a crack at some of the other bugs that were reported before I make a new version

[late anchor]

I'm testing this bug out

Oh yeah immediately Calculated Quota Penalty of 1 it's supposed to be 0.2

Oop turns out I was logging the wrong value

I should probably not flood the chat until I get something more concrete but oh well

[dire notch]

@late anchor If you don't know how to add text to the Changelog section in Thunderstore, please add any changes you make to the README section on the Thunderstore page

[late anchor]

Yeah, thanks for the reminder

I know how to add text to the changelog

I just forget to

[late anchor]

wdym

oh no the fix isn't released yet

I'll release it sometime tonight hopefully

You're good

[dire notch]

Make sure to update your changelog

[late anchor]

I've noted the despawning fix

[late anchor]

I just realized another issue

I'm not actually saving the quota penalty multiplier

So when you leave a lobby it will reset

I think that's a fix for another day though

[late anchor]

Alright 1.2.0 is released

I forgot to update the Known Issues section in the readme but the changelog is updated

[late anchor]

1.2.1 released!

I'm still calling it alpha for now, but I fixed all the known issues, at least as far as my testing goes.

I'll be testing it myself with friends soon. I haven't really gotten the chance yet.

I also added state saving, so quitting a save and rejoining it shouldn't cause any issues

[late anchor]

ok now I need an icon fr

That would be nice yeah

I thought of some random stuff, like a Q with wings, and a graph lookin thing (kinda like quota tweaks) but one side is pixelated

@nocturne sky I forgot about the issue you brought up, sorry about that

I can try to reproduce it rq

But also I would expect to pretty much be vanilla behavior, although I've never complete a quota early

I'm gonna test it with a deadline of 5 days, I'm not sure what you had it set to

[nocturne sky]

huh, i didnt report any bugs

i was just making a suggestion if you could add a feature to your mod to stop quotas from ending early

[late anchor]

oh ok

Sure why not

[late anchor]

This thing has 39 config options now lmao

I can tell because I get 39 warnings on build :)

I mean they don't cause a problem its just funny

Yoo that's pretty epic honestly

way better than anything I would have come up with

I mean I'm not gonna pretend it's perfect but that's pretty good dude

[late anchor]

alright this feature is done! Plus some extra configuration

There's a new config option, Early Finish Line

For values of 1 or higher, it represents the number of days that must pass before the quota can be fulfilled

For values below 1, it is equal to the Quota Deadline

so it sounds like for what you wanted you should set it to 0 or below

Although actually I might need to change how it works ever so slightly

Because days don't pass at the company apparently

Yeah just kidding

set it to -1

vanilla functionality should be 0

[late anchor]

Ok 1.2.2 is a go

Now with a spiffy icon by Cirno the 9th

lmao too bad

yoink

[broken badge]

but it's better than Default Thunderstore Icon

[late anchor]

I guess I could remove you from the credits if you really want

[nocturne sky]

just generate something with ai i guess lul

[sinful rivet]

booooo

[late anchor]

I don't think it's a big deal

Yeah for sure

But I'm about done seeing that goofy thunderstore icon

[late anchor]

Just kidding I had publish errors

it worked this time

[nocturne sky]

nvm dont use AI it sucks

[sinful rivet]

I have ideas

ye

my job here is done

I didn't finish

What you have is good

[late anchor]

yeah if you could add back the text that would be awesome

I'll probably mess with the colors and maybe add a background again cuz that was a good idea

But I can do that much myself

Honestly I'm getting some good takaways if I need to do this stuff in the future: Steal stuff, and steal more stuff

I mean seriously

That's 90% of programming anyway

The way it looks in the first icon is great

Doesn't matter the color I can change that

[late anchor]

Actually 40% of programming is stealing stuff, and the other 60% is debugging 💀

:0

[sinful rivet]

I liked the ideas you had so I was going for something similar with this

[sinful rivet]

just the idea

[late anchor]

Yo

that is scrumptious

Mostly I like Endoxicom's, but I still think the text with the lines through it is cool

[sinful rivet]

I just did this font (it's the one on the monitors) because it's more legible when it's smaller

[late anchor]

I suppose yeah

Alright I'll use that

[late anchor]

Thanks a lot, both of you, for making these

[sinful rivet]

actually it's not to obad if I don't do the text outline lol

[late anchor]

I have these all saved just in case I want to mess with it in the future

[sinful rivet]

Just noticed, but I will be pretending like the quota is not off center in mine

[late anchor]

real

[crimson frost]

Base quota, 7 players: 300
4 deaths first round
new quota: 264

[crimson frost]

Quota goes to 0, then quota increases

So deadline is always 3 days

Ah maybe is because im on 1.2.1

[granite path]

Hi, I found a bug(thanks to a user called CommonSay).
On a new save when you die the first day of the first quota, the dynamic quota penalty gets calculated in a weird way and it just makes the quota 0

[granite path]

I looked a bit at the source code and I might be wrong, but I think that this is caused by an oversight of the baseProfitQuota variable because from what i can see the only case where this variable gets updated is when you load a save data. So when you start a new save it probably stays 0 and then 0*(whatever number) is 0.

[late anchor]

Yeah sorry I didn't get back about this but I already found that bug and uploaded a fix

You were right about what caused it

I'm just not using LethalModDataLib anymore

(It still saves and loads I just use ES3 directly)

[granite path]

ok, nice

[late anchor]

Ok I made most things in QuotaOverhaul run only server-side now

I think the cause of excessive penalties was the penalty function running on each client, so that should fix it

[late anchor]

Ok there are some bugs with that release

I should have them worked out later today

[late anchor]

OK I uploaded a new version that should fix stuff?

I didn't have time for proper testing

[azure sage]

guys is normal that this mod spawns random scraps in the ship at exit and re entering the game?

[young trout]

yeah I had that too
when I flew away from the moon and reloaded the lobby, whole scrap from that moon magically appeared on my ship
deleting the mod fixed that issue

[late anchor]

oh yeah 100% normal

No I'm joking

That shouldn't happen

Lets see if I can reproduce it

Yeah I get the same issue

[late anchor]

Postifx() -> Postfix()

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-dust-hands-gif-4172164

lmao

I'm sobbing

How...

No actually I'm happy cuz I get a funny story out of this

[dire notch]

@late anchor For some reason, your mod makes it so that the cruiser can't be bought if it's left on a moon. It's likely caused by you attempting to fix the despawn bug.

[late anchor]

Hmm

Yeah I did mess with the despawn props function a bit

I think at the same time of fixing the despawn bug

But I thought I was just keeping vanilla parity

I'll take a look

[late anchor]

Uhh

for me I can't even buy a cruiser

the dropship comes with the strings hanging down but there's no cruiser

[late anchor]

oh lol that happens to me even without quota overhaul

I have other mods don't worry

for testing purposes

just gotta see which one is being weird

[sinful rivet]

Imperium?

[late anchor]

Yeah I guess it seems to be imperium

Tried it with just that

ok I reproduced it

[dire notch]

I assume you fixed the cruiser issue?

[late anchor]

No, I haven't

[dire notch]

oh?

Well, your most-recent update seemingly fixed it

[late anchor]

oh...

it still does it for me lmao

let me just install the latest update and see what happens

Wow you're right

oh wait I guess that does make sense

Except the part where the bug was still present for me

I guess I'll roll back my code to 1.3.1

[late anchor]

Wow its been a long time with no bug reports

Oop

Well, take your time I'll be busy for a few days

Still haven't gotten a good chance to test it with friends 🙄

[agile cloak]

the first quota was 16

[late anchor]

oof

ok its gonna be a bit before I have a chance to fix it

[summer oasis]

Also I think (narrowed it down to) quotaoverhaul making items delete from the beltbag upon going into orbit. A few weird things are happening with it:

1. items are removed from the slots, but you can't put anything in the slots for the rest of the playsession
2. "older" items aren't removed (if you have shovels, tzp, etc. on the ship on load in those are fine, it's items you buy on the moon that are subject to this)
3. the items reappear on the ship floor when you quit the game and reload the save

Makes it so buying tools and tossing them in the bag is super dangerous during a playsession though!

[late anchor]

for this could you send your profile code, so I can get your exact config and other mods

[late anchor]

Yeah this kind of makes sense, there's some weird code in the loot saving portion about belt bags. I stole it from Save Our Loot without fully understanding it, so that's probably causing the issue

You know, "export as code" in your mod manager

oh ok

thanks

lol

[late anchor]

ok on making a new save, the quota was 130, the same as the config

Do you remember if it started at the correct value but maybe was reduced later?

ok

[late anchor]

yeah I mean I didn't test it really

I just loaded a new save

[summer oasis]

btw just as an update to this, messing with the configs around saving items I wasn't able to get the bag to not delete items. Definitely quotaoverhaul causing it tho!

[late anchor]

Thanks

[late anchor]

Yeah it turns out my reference for the vanilla code was out of date. It was set to lethal company v62, before the belt bag was added.

So there was some necssary code to do with belt bags that I missed when making my custom function.

I did a full rewrite of the item despawn function, and in my testing (which was fairly extensive this time), everything worked.

Just gotta make the changelog and then I'll upload the new version. Hope it works!

[late anchor]

Ok it's released :D

Also @agile cloak Kenopsia looks incredible. I'm gonna have to check that out if my laptop can run it.

some modpacks make me lag ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ohhh you're being humble

Well I might be biased because the trailer looks cool

[late anchor]

original quota

Well, not the very first quota, but the current quota before any of the modifiers are applied (like player count multiplier and other penalties)

that's interesting

I don't know if that happens for me

I'm about modded out for today tho so I'll test it another time

[late anchor]

Ok, that does happen for me I just never noticed

thanks

oh weird

when I just replace the + with a - it's red

hmm

I guess that's technically possible

fr

[fresh meteor]

hi, was trying out this mod with some friends. For some reason it set's the quota to zero when we get a penalty and starts a new quota. I've noticed for the host the post mission screen says "increased quota by 24" but for the clients it will say "increased quota by -224".

we should've. I'll double check. Will different configs cause issues?

i was also testing it in lan with two sessions open with the same configs and was still having the same issue

based on the logs it looks like somethign is messing up when it's trying to sync. Here's part of the host's log:

[Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Synced Profit Quota: 224
[Warning: Unity Log] Unable to add the requested character to font asset [b]'s atlas texture. Please make the texture [b Atlas] readable.
[Info   : Unity Log] Setting animation on client
[Info   : Unity Log] clip index: 9; current planet: 41 Experimentation
[Info   : Unity Log] Current ship ambience clips length: 12
[Info   :ReservedItemSlotCore-2.0.43] Focusing reserved hotbar slots. NewIndex: 4 OldIndex: 0 ReservedStartIndex: 4
[Info   : Unity Log] Weather chance: 0.7352481; 1
[Info   :    YesFox] Skipping level #3 71 Gordion mold iterations
[Info   :    YesFox] Skipping level #9 8 Titan mold iterations
[Info   :    YesFox] Skipping level #12 5 Embrion mold iterations
[Info   :    YesFox] Skipping level #14 134 Oldred mold iterations
[Info   :    YesFox] Skipping level #15 71 Sector-0 mold iterations
[Info   :    YesFox] Skipping level #16 117 Schalttafel mold iterations
[Info   :Swaggies.BetterEXP] Saving data...
[Info   :ReservedItemSlotCore-2.0.43] Unfocusing reserved hotbar slots. NewIndex: 0 OldIndex: 4 ReservedStartIndex: 4
[Info   : Unity Log] Setting animation on client
[Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Synced Profit Quota: 0
[Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculating New Profit Quota...
[Info   : Unity Log] Luck calculated: 0
[Info   : Unity Log] Randomizer amount before: 0.6125765
[Info   : Unity Log] Randomizer amount after: 0.6125765
[Info   : Unity Log] Amount to increase quota:244.5598
[Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Synced Profit Quota: 444```

[late anchor]

oh that's a good idea actually

That should be very helpful for me to catch issues like this before a release

Thanks and I'll look into this

[late anchor]

I think different configs should only cause superficial issues, like things displaying differently, but the quota should still sync

And I use CSync for the configs just to be sure

I had some similar issues when I was playing with friends today

I'm not actually sure how to run two sessions at once

If I just try to launch the same profile again it doesn't do anything

[fresh meteor]

are you on gale or r2modman?

[late anchor]

gale

[fresh meteor]

make sure launch mode is set to direct

[late anchor]

alright

thanks

hmm

[fresh meteor]

weird

[late anchor]

Well what does direct mode do? Is that just not launching it with steam?

[fresh meteor]

yeah

[late anchor]

If it just runs the executable, it wouldn't work for me because I'm on linux

[fresh meteor]

cuz i don't think you can have the game loaded twice via steam

ahhhh i see

[late anchor]

Yeah I thought that might be a thing

I might be able to write a bash script or something... Which I've never done before

But still it might be worth it

is that a different mod manager?

yeah ig that wouldn't make any sense

ah I see

I kind of assumed that was already a thing

sad that it's not

but makes sense

[ripe vale]

How does the quota steepness work exactly?

[late anchor]

That I don't know

What the config option does is change an internal value that the vanilla algorithm uses

I didn't take the time to understand the quota algorithm

I haven't looked into it yet sorry

[late anchor]

I found the calculation

Mathf.Clamp(1f + (float)timesFulfilledQuota * ((float)timesFulfilledQuota / quotaVariables.increaseSteepness), 0f, 10000f);

That's the code

[ripe vale]

Thanks, though I have no idea what this means lol

[late anchor]

It should result in this: T = timesFulfilledQuota, S = increaseSteepness, 1 + T * (T * S)

And then it's clamped between 0 and 10000

well I guess that's not the full equation hold on

That gets multiplied by the baseIncrease and added to the quota you just completed

With some randomness tossed in there

[ripe vale]

Okay let me see here...

Wait using this, wouldn't increasing the quota sleepless increase how much the quota increases?

Which is the opposite of how it says it works in the configs?

[late anchor]

Wait yeah it does seem like that

I just stole the description from quota tweaks without double checking it so

Yeah, looks like that's how it works

I changed the description to match

at least, in my code, it won't release for a bit

[late anchor]

oh ok

You're just in time cause I'm back from my 2 week vacation

That's why I haven't been doing much

[late anchor]

I was on Kauai actually

it was really fun

[hasty kettle]

Is the "Body recovery bonus" a percent of that player's contribution to the penalty or is it a subtraction from the entire penalty percent?

[late anchor]

the player's contribution

The mod doesn't really work rn, just so you know

[late anchor]

I'm currently trying to figure out multiple instances on linux

If I can get that working, then my testing will become much more reliable

[late anchor]

Yeah Hamunii has been trying to help me figure it out

it feels like I'm close but I don't know

[late anchor]

yeah umu

The long and short is that this line launches normally through steam:
"/usr/bin/steam" -applaunch "1966720" --doorstop-enable true --doorstop-target "$profiles_path/$mod_profile/BepInEx/core/BepInEx.Preloader.dll"
and this line launches with umu but no mods are loaded:
umu-run $lethal_exe --doorstop-enable true --doorstop-target "$profiles_path/$mod_profile/BepInEx/core/BepInEx.Preloader.dll"

[summer oasis]

Mods borked? I've been using it and noticed no issues.

[frozen junco]

what are the bugs with this mod? i just found it today, and was planning to replace chocoquota with it

[late anchor]

hmm

I mean I guess I haven't tested it in a couple months...

But there were several bug reports that I didn't fix

maybe it works in some cases

I don't really know. Unfortunately until I have a reliable way to test the multiplayer features, I can't be sure if it works or not.

[frozen junco]

oh right cus you're on linux right

[late anchor]

yeah :/

[frozen junco]

in windows it's just open with the executable itself instead of through steam

but i'm not sure how that translates to linux

[late anchor]

I've tried for a couple hours to get it to work, using a third party launcher that allows me to use proton without steam

[frozen junco]

the umu line to launch doesn't load any mods even though it targets bepinex preloader?

[late anchor]

Almost

It's kind of complicated, but I'll explain what I've gathered, as it might help me figure it out as well

The way BepInEx is supposed to work, is it includes a file called winhttp.dll in each mod profile. Windows loads dlls like that for essential functions, and since the name matches one of them, the included file is also loaded ig. The file actually contains Unity Doorstop, which allows patching games before they are run. You are then supposed to set doorstop's target to BepInEx, assuming that doorstop is already loaded. Then BepInEx loads your mods.

The problem on linux seems to be that doorstop, disguised as winhttp.dll, is not loaded with umu, although it is with steam.

I made sure that umu used the same wineprefix and proton version as steam, and I installed BepInEx manually to rule out any weirdness with my mod manager.

still didn't work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense rain]

aw man :(

any other mods that add similar functionality and are recent enough?

specially the quota being risen on death

[late anchor]

I haven't looked in a while

[late anchor]

I suppose it's best if I revert the warning to what it was previously, just stating that it's in alpha and bugs should be expected

[dense rain]

oh

i mean i havent noticed issues myself

guess ill use it again

[summer oasis]

tbf I haven't used every config option, and I may have not noticed some issues too

Would you be able to add the other reported bugs to the known issues? Curious what I ought to look out for lol

[late anchor]

I don't think I had a clear picture of what the bugs were

I'm pretty sure when I tested it with a friend deaths didn't give the right amount of penalty

Cirno had some weird issue where the quota started really low and nothing would despawn

But I don't even know which of these issues are still present, so I don't think I'll add them to known issues atm

[late anchor]

Ok, good news (maybe) on the multiple-instance script for linux

The issue is not with umu launcher

I now get the same error with both umu and steam

I had seen this before but failed to notice that doorstop is throwing the error

that means BepInEx's winhttp.dll is being loaded, it just then fails to load the real winhttp.dll

[late anchor]

Welp bad news is I can't launch modded at all anymore

[frozen junco]

Have you considered setting up a dual boot for windows? Where you can keep Linux as your primary but switch to windows as a testing environment?

Or is that out of the question

[late anchor]

It would be inconvenient, especially since my SSD is only 256 GB, but yeah, it crossed my mind

Mostly I don't want to do it out of a weird stubbornness lol

[frozen junco]

fair enough

[frozen junco]

if there was a list of reported problems i could probably check for them

since i can do modded lan instancing

[late anchor]

Yeah I don't have enough details to be helpful

[ornate prawn]

Hi, I just heard of quotaoverhaul and thinks it's a nice mod especially with the customdeathpenalty section of it. I have a few suggestions though. When it shows how much percent the quota is increasing, it doesn't show it accurately when it's a decimal. I have it set to 0.4% increase but it shows +0%. Despite that it applies the calculation of the 0.4% just figured it would be weird for someone playing to see it increasing by 0% and it still go up. That and the plus sign right beside the zero is really contrasting and very dark and basically touches the percent number. Was wondering if you would make it less stand-out ish and maybe give it the same format/type that all the other letters use. Lastly, sometimes I feel like it doesn't increase. Could be because it's the third day as that's whne it last happened but I'm not sure about this part. I'll have to check it out some more.

[craggy plank]

As far as I know, right now the quota increasing method is broken. The + sign being darker is because of the vanilla font not having that glyph.

[ornate prawn]

Are you sure it's broken? Other than my visual complaints, it does seem to work

it just doesn't account for decimals so it visually doesn't show them

[ornate prawn]

Using that latin character mod you can get around the plus sign. But yeah, my main issue is the decimals don't show so when it's a 0.4% increase, it'll show 0% increase but still will apply the 0.4% increase

[frozen junco]

Update?

[plucky grove]

any news on the latest update?
There are no changelogs

[late anchor]

Oh, I guess I didn't add one

oops

The changes were kind of scatterbrained lol

It's not extensively tested at all so you might encounter issues, but it mostly worked for me

The one issue I encountered is that when a new player joins, the quota doesn't update. (It should change if you have player count multipliers on)

It will update at the end of each moon though

[plucky grove]

I'll test it when it's avaliable on Gale

[late anchor]

Yeah I'm surprised it's taking so long

[late anchor]

I'm going to test it with some friends when it's available to them as well

[late anchor]

Alright, I've done some more testing, and fixed some minor oversights. Everything seems to work fairly well, so I've updated with version 1.4.4. Make sure to shout at me here or make an issue on github if you spot any bugs.

[late anchor]

Now I'm going to take the [ALPHA/INACTIVE] off the desription and make an actual readme 💀

[digital viper]

[14:20:42.2934526] [Error : BepInEx] Could not load [QuotaOverhaul 1.4.0] because it has missing dependencies: FontUpdate (v0.8.0 or newer)

[14:20:43.9427707] [Info : BepInEx] Loading [FontUpdate 0.6.5]

[craggy plank]

OUH that's my fault

lemme fix that lmao

[craggy plank]

just pushed a fix for that

[vapid vigil]

could you add an option to disable the notification that pops up if you have scrap loss enabled?

[late anchor]

sure

[late anchor]

done

[vapid vigil]

awesome thank you!

[fluid hazel]

QuotaOverhaul no longer works in v80 while the settings work leaving the moon leaves it softlocks it in orbit

[elder flame]

Same happens for me

[frozen junco]

wonderful

just got a bug figured out too

@late anchor ping to let u know

[late anchor]

Okay, thanks for the heads up

I haven't worked on any modding in a bit, and currently I'm preparing for a summer job out of state, so I may not get it fixed.

I ask that you wait to submit any more bug reports until I look at it. If you don't want to wait for that, you're more than welcome to make and upload a fork of Quota Overhaul.

[fluid hazel]

Stack trace:
QuotaOverhaul.Patches.DespawnPropsPatch.Postfix (System.Boolean despawnAllItems) (at ./src/QuotaOverhaul/Patches/RoundManager.cs:68)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::DespawnPropsAtEndOfRound>(RoundManager,bool)
StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d__321.MoveNext () (at <bc42cf6950c34b22862bb697b6cfe961>:IL_027B)
Dawn.DungeonRegistrationHandler+<UnloadDungeonBundleForAllPlayers>d__12.MoveNext () (at ./src/API/Dungeons/.DungeonRegistrationHandler.cs:284)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0026)``` error in question that soft locks

[frozen junco]

DropAllHeldItemsAndSync sounds like a function that would be broken by the new tool slot

[late anchor]

Yep I'll have to look at the source code of all the functions that I'm patching

Thanks for the log tho that should help

[late anchor]

I probably fixed it

Just gonna test rq

[late anchor]

Nope I broke other things lol

[frozen junco]

this is an error i got that caused me to never respawn when the ship took off after dying

it might help a bit with where to look

[late anchor]

It's the same error essentially

That should be fixed now. The method DropAllHeldItemsAndSync() was renamed to DropAllHeldItemsAndSyncNonexact()

Yep it no longer softlocks you on leaving

[late anchor]

Now the starting quota and starting credits and stuff are just vanilla

So I'm trying to figure that out

For anyone who uses this mod regularly, I've been wondering if I should try to reduce the amount of config options. Or other ways of simplifying the configuration.

Like does anyone use the flat percentages per player? Or should I do away with that in favor of using the dynamic calculations based on the number of players in the lobby

Also by the way, I have plans to make some settings for scrap loss that are more similar to how credit/quota penalties are done

And I have ideas even beyond that for scrap loss, like being able to set it to lose a certain number of randomly selected scrap. So you can either base things on the scrap value or the number of items.

Would also love to have more people weigh in on this issue: https://github.com/LuciusofLegend/QuotaOverhaul/issues/2

[frozen junco]

Well since it seems you're working on this mod a lot recently I might as well get the bugs people reported while u were away (I didnt check the github so idk if they were mentioned there)

Some people were saying that quota penalties were causing desyncs (i think just desynced quota, I never used them)

And i personally got an issue with per-player scaling where it was applying the multiplier to DailyQuota calculations on the first time players failed to complete it

[frozen junco]

At the time my per-player multiplier was something like 0.96 which was way too high, but with my lobbies would come out to around 4.8x.

Upon failing DailyQuota the quota would shoot up from 980 to ~6658

And after turning per-player scaling off it stopped happening, so I guess it just was getting triggered too early

It could probably be fixed by only running that calculation on the final day as defined in QO config

[frozen junco]

Also this is a cool idea, either a reduction to body retrieval value or a credit deduction per teleport would be interesting

[late anchor]

Yeah I ran into that same issue when I tried to use daily quota one time

Or maybe it wasn't quite the same issue idk

[elder flame]

Just wanted to chime in on this
I have been noticing something similar with the Quota not really increasing.
The Penalty System is working just fine but sometimes we complete a quota ex. 412 to 1174 and when the next quota comes around I just see something like 488

Which makes me think the penalty System is sometimes overwriting the normal Quota increase.

[frozen junco]

do you have anything else touching quota besides this mod

[elder flame]

NOT ALWAYS though.
If I had to make a guess it's always the first qouta that gets forgoten

[elder flame]

I just checked and at the most I have Generalimprovements and the config "Allow quota rollover" set to true

[frozen junco]

that shouldnt be causing it

very unusual

all the problems i had with this mod occured primarily on the first time the quota got updated though

so maybe, something fails on the first run and then it falls back to something else? idk

[elder flame]

I didn't want to report on something that I wasn't 100% certain on so I looked through my recent recordings and the little bit I saw would point towards it happening on the first quota which is weird.
Sadly I don't know when this reset happens since I only notice it on the next Sell day but I'm guessing either on the next finished day or a save reload.

[late anchor]

Okay interesting

I'll note some of this down real quick

I did some refactoring to the way quota multipliers are handled, which right now just includes player count multiplier and quota penalties

So that could be to blame potentially

Did you notice this before 1.4.6 (current latest version)

Actually I may not have shipped those changes

idk 💀

[elder flame]

DAMN IDK but I could definitely check my old recordings if this helps

[late anchor]

Nah it's fine. I'll need to reproduce it myself anyway.

You've given me at least a direction on how to do that, so that will be the first step.

[elder flame]

I would have to check more of my latest play session recordings to give you indefinite facts. Which isn't really a problem since me and my friends been playing again and much more regularly

[late anchor]

Good for you guys :)

I've done a session or two on the new update

I very much appreciate the performance gains lol

[elder flame]

Finally Zeekers looked in

[late anchor]

My computer did okay before but now it's smooth af

Also my friends and I played on the lowest resolution setting as a challenge

[elder flame]

Yeah even me with a bulky ah PC have noticed the ship to land much faster after pulling the lever

[late anchor]

It's kind of a vibe by the way. It's worth a try.

[elder flame]

Would you say it's also creepier or just harder

[late anchor]

I'm not sure. I mostly don't get scared by the game at this point. I have about 300 hours so I'm just kinda unfazed lol

But yeah I'd say it's creepier

Cuz you can't see shit 😭

You be looking at one huge pixel like "is that a dawg??"

[elder flame]

"Can I pet that DAWG?"

[elder flame]

Also love this suggestion of the teleporter not being able to teleport dead bodies.

I play with usual Scraps which adds the Defibrillator which lets you revive each other, which surprisingly stops the Quota from increasing.
I really like that there is a thing that lets players actually play again and not wait 10 minutes while others are having fun without you, but as long as you have someone at ship you essentially just get reset back to ship since they can just tp you back and revive you.

If this config were a thing, then you would have to bring the body to the ship or the expensive Defi to the player.

[late anchor]

Mmm yeah that's an epic mod synergy

[elder flame]

• I've also added poltergeist but you barley get to use it because your never dead for long

So yeah that would be really cool

[late anchor]

To confirm on this, I have not seen this issue. The issue I had with Daily Quota is when there was a penalty from Quota Overhaul, the one from Daily Quota would be ignored.

[late anchor]

Okay got this fixed

Now I can start testing for these suspected bugs

[late anchor]

I have a checklist of all the config values, and I'm going to test that each one behaves as expected at different values. Some I can test in Singleplayer, and I'll tackle those first, then I'll release a new version. Some things have to be tested in multiplayer, and I can't launch multiple instances with my setup. So if anyone is interested in helping test those things, let me know. I'll get back to you whenever I've finished testing in singleplayer.

Usually in the past I haven't done much testing. Not letting that happen this time. We got a lot of stuff to get through 🤣

[fluid hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/mimikyu-pokémon-dancing-sun-and-moon-doll-gif-9752469230819264861

[late anchor]

Yeah I've found some goofy ass oversights so far. Testing this mod is a humbling process, but it's gonna be really good for stability.

[frozen junco]

we're just glad you're back man, take your time with this

honestly would consider you the GOAT of quota mods

[fluid hazel]

Agreed there

[late anchor]

Thanks guys!! 🫀

[late anchor]

Okay, v2.0.0 is released!

[digital viper]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-freaky-cat-evil-freaky-billy-freaky-tongue-out-gif-15606774793615950575

[late anchor]

I won't be able to do multiplayer testing this weekend since I'm away from my computer, but let me know if anything comes up for you in that time. And on Monday I'll try to get a lobby going and get things ironed out. So if you're interested in that dm me or ping me here.

[elder flame]

https://tenor.com/view/manticoil-lethal-company-rotate-gif-14783936219091347947

[fluid hazel]

LETS GOOO

[silk osprey]

fuck yeah brother

[fluid hazel]

Whether its a bug on its own or an incompact with a mod in my pack this causes scrap left on the moon when leaving not despawning

I will get more info

[elder flame]

Wait but that’s actually kinda cool

Bug❌
Feature✅

[fluid hazel]

No clue

Would be cool

Depending on what happens if ya leave a moon

and it also is unfair given some issues

I have to get more info on if its something else in my mod pack

Can confirm it is just quota overhaul

[dense ember]

for some reason after the game ended (we lost), the unsold items that weren't sold and laid on our ship transferred into the next game, so we started day 1 with some scrap already on our ship.
can i disable this or is this not supposed to happen?

[craggy plank]

That's probably not supposed to happen, like the scrap persisting during rounds

[elder flame]

IDK if i'm missing something but I am in a lobby but the quota didn't go up after I died, even thought it says +10%

[late anchor]

Okay gotcha

It should be quick to fix

Thanks

[fluid hazel]

No problem

[late anchor]

No that's not supposed to happen

Yeah it's probably related to the other bug

[late anchor]

Well, that shouldn't happen in any case, but it could be that the +10% is the incorrect part

What's your Quota Penalty Threshold? It could be that I didn't account for the threshold in the way it's displayed.

[elder flame]

These are my settings for Quota Penalties

[late anchor]

Ah gotcha

Okay thanks for the info

[elder flame]

Maybe I should delete my config and let it generate a new one?

[late anchor]

It shouldn't affect anything but you can certainly try it out

If you reproduce the bug again would you mind sending over your log file?

[elder flame]

Yeah sure I'll do that right now

[elder flame]

Ok I don't know what triggered this bug

[elder flame]

BUT I did just have this had problem happen again, where the quota seemed to have reset.
Here is the log for thath

I had this save for 15 days and just completed a quota.
I quit the game and restarted and loaded the save again.
After that I landed, died to some bees and had this pop up👆

[late anchor]

Hmm okay so they're edge case type things

I'm glad you included extra detail. That should help.

[late anchor]

Ah unfortunately your log doesn't include Debug level messages

I should probably switch the logging back to Info

[frozen junco]

i wish player.log from the game itself was easier to access

it contains everything including debug logs

[elder flame]

Oh yeah sorry, I enable them now

Also funny bug I just found.
When you wipe on the company moon you lose all Items even if you have lose scrap disabled

[late anchor]

Yeah I haven't even heard of that

[late anchor]

oh interesting

okay I'm home now I'm gonna try to reproduce these

[late anchor]

I guess for clarity could you send me a screenshot of your config?

[elder flame]

Does this work?

[late anchor]

yeah thanks

So do you only lose scrap at the company?

[elder flame]

Oh yeah, any other moon and it's fine

tested it right after

[late anchor]

okay

Okay I lost all my scrap but not equipment. Same for you?

[elder flame]

Exactly yeah

[late anchor]

Okay pretty sure I fixed it

erm

I might have caused another issue tho

It seems all the scrap that was inside teleported into the ship 🤣

when I tested on experimentation with scrap loss on

[late anchor]

Actually I'm amazed I didn't catch these issues in my previous testing but it should be good now. I'll release a hotfix.

[late anchor]

I tested for this using the config you sent me, and I lost credits equal to 10% of the quota, as expected. And it didn't say +10% quota. I notice in this screenshot you also didn't lose any credits which is strange, assuming your config was the same then.

[elder flame]

OH wait yeah sorry, forgot that I changed the setting "Charge credits instead" to true

I first forgot that you actually added this now

[late anchor]

okay I'll test it with that disabled

[late anchor]

I think I know what caused this, and I tested it just now, I think I fixed it in 2.0.1

[fluid hazel]

Bet

[late anchor]

Okay so it worked as expected, it just increased the quota by 10%

Let me know if that happens to you again

I'd like to do a multiplayer playtest at 7:00 pm Eastern Time. Anyone is welcome to join.

[elder flame]

Dang would love to join but thats 1pm for me and I got work tomorrow

[late anchor]

oof

[elder flame]

ups meant am not pm

[fluid hazel]

Ping me if ya can i dont pay mind to the time

[elder flame]

Alright It's happening again.
I still have the same Config as listed above (except for Credits per quota which is now 0.8) and on the first day I still had Credits which got all got removed but it shouldn't have been enough but yet I got +0% on the quota.
After dying on the second day I got the fines in the screenshot and copied the LogOutput. As you can see I didn't get a Quota increase again

[late anchor]

Your log file is cut short or something. I can't find the lines where it would show the penalty being calculated and such

[late anchor]

@elder flame I'm going to take your suggestion of stopping dead bodies from being teleported back to the ship, and make it standalone mod

I'll let you know when I release it :)

[elder flame]

Awesome man, can’t wait to see it. Thanks a lot

[late anchor]

Not gonna lie I didn't get much testing done last night

My friends and I kinda just played the game

[elder flame]

Which is allowed a MF can just PLAY THE GAME from time to time

[late anchor]

🤣

[fluid hazel]

Agreed

[brazen ibex]

same thing happens to me.
Multiplayer/Singleplayer - doesn't matter (maybe more often in multiplayer).
As i can see - biggest problem is reloading lobby, but its not the only reason.

Problems that i have encountered:

1. Penalty just doesn't work - "quota +2% but it still the same"
2. Penalty reduces quota "quota +2% but it reduces it by ~90% instead of adding"
3. Penalty adding quota way more than said "quota +72% when config set to 20% cap and 2% per player with 10 players in lobby"
4. Penalty calculating max cap when needed to calculate only per player cap and viceversa

[late anchor]

hmmm

okay thanks for the info

I think first I should just read through my code and make sure I understand what it's actually doing 🤣

By #4 do you mean that it sometimes uses the per-player calculation instead of the dynamic calculation (the one with a cap)?

And if that's what you're saying, have you checked the logs to find out? If it's using the dynamic formula there will be a line that says Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of x. Otherwise it will say Calculated Quota Penalty of x.

[brazen ibex]

Yes. MAYBE it is caused by simultaneous death (emergency dice lovers) but i cant reproduce this again, because penalty not work happens MUCH MORE often, so cant tell.

Btw, if i understood correctly, penalty percent cap only works with dynamic mode and penalty per player only works with dynamic mode off? If so, per player penalty in dynamic mode calculated from "penalty percent cap" ? If so, can there be separated cap setting if there still at least 1 player alive? Like, wanna different penalty for ALL DEAD situation and if there is at least 1 alive, because if its now always calculate from one cap its no much diff with 1 survives and noone survived.

[brazen ibex]

Where i can see logs for ur mod? Cant see it in default logs (LogOutput.log)

[elder flame]

I think you have to enable those in de the BepInEx config.
There should be one where you can toggle debug information to be included in the log.

[brazen ibex]

yeah, ty

[brazen ibex]

will try to reproduce each of problem and give u logs then.

[late anchor]

Oh, yeah the penalty threshold works with both

That's what I call it

Sorry for the confusion

[brazen ibex]

no, i meant specifically penalty percent cap, i think?

Let's take 2 different situations:

1. Penalty per player - 2% + dynamic mode off = you will get stable +2% quota per dead player
2. Dynamic mode on + Penalty percent cap 20% = if you have 10 players in lobby you will get same +2% quota per dead player

Am i right?
If yes, it would be great to have setting for independent calculation, if all players dead.
For example - we have penalty percent cap 20% + dynamic mode on (10players) + new setting enabled with 40% penalty when all dead.
When 9 players dead = we will have +18% quota, but when all 10 players are dead we will have +40% quota penalty.

[late anchor]

oh I see what you're saying

Interesting

Yeah you can't achieve that currently but I suppose I could add it

[brazen ibex]

that would be great

[late anchor]

Were you using any mods aside from quota overhaul?

And if so could you send the modpack code?

[brazen ibex]

yeah, many.

019d960d-b3c7-9d24-83aa-e23aac51afb0

[late anchor]

Kay thanks

10 player lobby is wild as well 🤣

I will be changing the log level back to info because I guess BepInEx defaults don't include debug level messages

[brazen ibex]

yeah

[late anchor]

So yeah if you reproduce any of this just send the log over and it should give some clues. I'll also test it myself with your modpack.

[brazen ibex]

maybe, but for BrutalCompany it's ok, i think.
+trying to balancing this.

[late anchor]

It just sounds chaotic that's all. I'm usually in 3-4 player lobbies

[brazen ibex]

[11:57:24.7548834] [Debug :GeneralImprovements] Updated players alive display.
[11:57:27.1328809] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0,6
[11:57:27.1328809] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 180 of 300 credits
[11:57:27.1328809] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,2
[11:57:27.1328809] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 0,2 = 40
[11:57:27.1328809] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
40 * 0 = 0

[11:53:11.9761957] [Debug :GeneralImprovements] Updated players alive display.
[11:53:14.2446846] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0
[11:53:14.2446846] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 0 of 300 credits
[11:53:14.2456822] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,04
[11:53:14.2456822] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 1,04 = 208
[11:53:14.2456822] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
208 * 1 = 208

Forgot to screenshot, but here it's not needed, i think.

[late anchor]

Oh crazy

Yeah something aint right lol

Yeah so in the top one, for whatever reason the quota multipliers are less than 1, which is never intended to happen

But in the bottom one I actually don't see what's wrong

[brazen ibex]

for some reason it calculated players alive as 0, as i can see

[brazen ibex]

why is it 0.04 ? 😄

[late anchor]

ah

Well hold on, how many players died out of how many in the lobby?

[brazen ibex]

singleplayer both screenshots

[late anchor]

Maybe I should log that, because I won't have to ask

[late anchor]

gotcha

[late anchor]

question, for this feature would you want recovering bodies to still reduce the penalty?

[brazen ibex]

yeah

[elder flame]

OK, I first thought I understood the calculation, but now don't think so any more

It first takes the Quota (200) and adds the "QuotaPenaltyMultiplier" which is 0.04. That I kinda get(even though I don't get how Dynamic Mode works but whatever)

But then It applies the QuotaPlayerMultiplier which is 1 ???
First, I thought 1 as in 100% of dead players, but that would mean if half of the players died, it would be multiplied by 0.5 which would DECREASE the Quota🤣
That's when I thought it was 1 as in 1 player died but if two people died, then it's times 2 which would double the quota

I clearly am not smart enough to make mods

[brazen ibex]

nah, quotaplayermultiplier works fine (kind of), its just multiplier per each player in lobby

its not about penalty, its about default quota increase

[elder flame]

Default as in at the end of the 3 day quota?

[brazen ibex]

yeah

[late anchor]

No it's not about the increase. It's just that whatever the current quota is, it gets multiplied based on the number of players in the lobby

[elder flame]

But that means in a 4 player lobby its an increase of 4?

[late anchor]

There's a whole calculation that goes on

Let me think for a second and I'll try to explian it

[brazen ibex]

im not good in explaining things, sorry 😅

[brazen ibex]

you can set multiplier per player.
If it set to 0.2 and have threshold of 1 it would be 1.6 for 4 players, if i am right

[late anchor]

So with default settings, and 4 players in the lobby, it first takes the Player Count Threshold, and uses that to adjust the player count. Specifically, playerCount - playerCountThreshold. In the case of the default, 4 -1 = 3. Then the multiplier is equal to the adjustedPlayerCount * multiplierPerPlayer + 1. Which in our case is 1.75.

Then the quota is muliplied by 1.75. For example 200 * 1.75 is 350

[elder flame]

Ok, I get that
So this calculation is just flat out wrong because it multiplies by 0 right?
[11:57:27.1328809] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier 40 * 0 = 0

[late anchor]

yes

that should never happen theorhetically

[elder flame]

OK, I'm gonna hold off on asking any more question until I'm Home and see the calculations that happen with my settings for my self😅

[late anchor]

would it make more sense to have the configs just be a float instead of a percentage?

it would cut out a lot of dividing by 100 from the code, and make the logs more obviously consistent with the config

[elder flame]

I can see it helping since "Multiplier Per Player" is also a decimal

[late anchor]

right that's true

kay I'll go ahead and do that

[fluid hazel]

I feel stupid i did not know it was updated to v2.0.1 i had it disabled xD

[late anchor]

classic disabled 🤣

[late anchor]

@brazen ibex This happened twice in a row for me

How often did you see a problem?

The credits didn't go down because I changed how the configs worked and then forgot to change that part of the config to match

(oh also the quota doesn't look like it increased correctly it's because the base quota is 200)

Side note your modpack seems pretty cool

[brazen ibex]

often.
Imo, atm there's more about conditions under which the bug doesn't occur, rather than the other way around
And if it happens once - it persists, as i can see (in same save file)

[late anchor]

Okay yeah that's what I was wondering

The persistence is interesting

I'll keep just kinda playing the game and see what happens

Except I'll need to install imperium real quick to spawn in scrap to get through this quota 🤣

[brazen ibex]

Hello, how are things going?
Maybe, I can help you somehow or you just busy rn?

[late anchor]

Yeah I'm just sort of doing other stuff

I guess one thing was I installed Imperium in your modpack, but the keybinds to open the main menu and spawning menu didn't work. Tried a bunch of stuff to rebind them but they would basically revert every time.

So I got sidetracked trying to solve that yesterday

[brazen ibex]

strange.
Works fine for me 🤔

[elder flame]

Maybe you changed it to local and not Global keybinds?

[brazen ibex]

y, but I didn't change so much in keybinds

[elder flame]

Maybe not you but him idk

[late anchor]

I tried switching between local and global

Neither worked

[elder flame]

Well did you get it to work?

[late anchor]

Nope

I'll try it again now

[brazen ibex]

I can give you actual code (with imperium), mb it will work.
But Im configuring enemies spawn chances rn, so it's kinda unplayable for normal runs.

019dabc7-fcbf-ef34-3951-1d79d5b7b3f7

[late anchor]

okay, I'll try that in a minute

I reset everything to default, and on paper it looks like it should work, so we'll see what happens

I'm suspecting the GeneralImprovements setting that's like NumberKeysSwitchSlots

Because even though my keybinds should be fine, the number keys switch the slots and the f1 f2 keys do the emotes

f1 and f2 are supposed to be for imperium

Alright that didn't do what I expected so using your code now lol

[crystal mesa]

compatible with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SoftDiamond/BrutalCompanyMinusExtraReborn/ ?

[brazen ibex]

it's just emoting + opening imperium menu for me, so idk what's wrong tbh :d

[late anchor]

what is compatible with it? Quota Overhaul?

oh it's a question

idk

Test it out. Let me know if you run into any compatibility issues

If it doesn't mess with the quota, or scrap loss at the end of the round, you should be good to go

And if it does, it might be fine anyway. Depends

[crystal mesa]

mainly want brutal for the events

maybe you could force your mod to take over the quota scaling somehow

just an idea, testing now

[brazen ibex]

works fine for me, excluding credit/quota penalties, but Im not rly sure what causing them to broke, so maybe for your modpack it should be fine

[brazen ibex]

but its not brutalcompany problem as I can say for now

[late anchor]

Yeah, I'm not familiar with the details of Brutal Company, so I'm not much help

[brazen ibex]

btw, in this code update I disabled penalties and turn on quota rollover (from GeneralImprovements), so keep that in mind.
You can turn off quota rollover for more precise tests, because i didn't test it with ur mod yet

[late anchor]

okay thanks for the warning

[crystal mesa]

ah okay i see now

brutal doesnt touch quota scaling by default

it optionally scales its difficulty system off the quota value which is handled by this mod

so yea fully compatible and nothing needs to be done on your end

[late anchor]

Yeah should be pretty good

That does mean if you rack up quota penalties the difficulty will go up

Since my mod does overwrite the vanilla quota value as part of its whole thing

[crystal mesa]

yea exactly

cant wait for all the mods to update and i can finally playyy

[late anchor]

this worked thanks

[elder flame]

Here is a short clip of me and my friends all dying on the company which didn't increase our quota, which is correct.
But at first it says that we have 3320 of 1219 but after the "Quota Reached" pop up comes, it says 2623 of 1145 and the new quota reached 2003.

What is actually weird is how it left us with 2623 since 3320 - 1219 = 2101

[late anchor]

could you send your log and config?

Okay, so I see from this you're using quota rollover

[elder flame]

Oh yeah quota rollover from General Improvment, forgot to mention

Here is the Config the logs are sadly long gone

[late anchor]

okay, I'm not sure I'll be able to help you then to be honest

[elder flame]

It's fine

[late anchor]

It's also weird that the quota changed at all

like it went down before it increased

[elder flame]

I'll remeber next time

[elder flame]

Yeah so weird, my friend call it out

[late anchor]

Yeah, no worries

Maybe I could come up with a theory based on this. I'll take a look for a bit at least

[elder flame]

honestly, for me the mod is generally in a very well working order, that was the only time it was a bit weird in our 3 hour session

[late anchor]

well, that's good to hear

[elder flame]

Honestly this feels like a General Improvement Problem

[late anchor]

Could be. It's hard to say who's wheelhouse it is to solve it

But yeah it seems like an incompatibility between the two mods

It could be something about the way the quota multipliers are handled on my end

Did you rack up any quota penalties throughout the quota?

I guess it's not that helpful without knowing exactly how much of a multiplier you had, which I assume you don't know

[elder flame]

I have the full recording of the session but you need the logs right?

[late anchor]

Yeah, it's probably not worth combing through the recording and trying to gather info that way

thanks for the offer though

[elder flame]

WAIT I think I know why it left us with 2623 instead of the correct amount of 2101.
Maybe General Improvement ignores your Quota increases

[late anchor]

That would depend on the timing of... Something lmao

I think

Basically Quota Overhaul stores this variable called Base Quota, and that's what you multiply to get the actual current quota

The base game stores the quota in a specific variable, and most mods probably use that to do their thing

Whenever a multipler is updated (quota penalty or number of players), that base game variable is also updated to match

And that's also what gets displayed on the screen. So in theory, it should work fine.

Oh wait yeah I think it is that though

Because when a new quota is reached, Quota Overhaul immediately resets the quota penalty

And if I do that before GeneralImprovements can do it's rollover calculations, it would effectively be ignored

[elder flame]

Sounds to me like you are working with different values than than General Improvements

[late anchor]

Most of the time, they should be synced up properly

And actually, if I'm right, it still is synced correctly it's just I reset the multiplier before GeneralImprovements has a chance to do anything with it

Anyway, I know it's a little tough to follow and I could be wrong

[elder flame]

Well as I said, at the end of the day it fills like it works most of the time and if it doesn't, hey, we still enjoy the bonus the bugs give us

[brazen ibex]

how did you do that when u are speaking your avatar is bouncing ?

[elder flame]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/lethal_coder/Advance_Features/
Advanced Features very cool mod, also compacts the Performance Report
The Assets for this mod were salvaged from a now banned mod, very controversial👻

[brazen ibex]

ty, looks cool.
Works fine with poltergeist, I suppose?

[elder flame]

Oh yeah, well you still see the people Icons at the bottom left while flying around
SOOOOOOO much better then how morecompany handles displaying players

[late anchor]

Hey Pika, do you have a save file that is acting up with quota overhaul bugs?

That could be a good way for me to reproduce the bug and see the logs, if you can find the save in your files and send it over

[brazen ibex]

oh, sadly not, didn't think about it.
But, I think, it could be recreated fast enough

y, it was fast.

[20:27:50.5926236] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0
[20:27:50.5926236] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 0 of 120 credits
[20:27:50.5926236] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,04
[20:27:50.5926236] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 1,24 = 248
[20:27:50.5926236] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
248 * 0 = 0

@late anchor

019dac9a-7df1-40f3-24fa-0bb2e6db85a4

here is save + code (u can try with urs first time, maybe)

btw, you can try to recreate it by urself, just create new save, die 1 time and just rejoin to the same savefile.
Its rough way, I think, but its the simpliest way to recreate this bug.

[late anchor]

Awesome!

Thanks bro

[brazen ibex]

(after death tried to wait for saving data/not waiting - doesn't matter as I see)

[brazen ibex]

btw, after I restarted my game it works fine again, lol.
So, try by yourself, I suppose.

[brazen ibex]

[20:40:01.1112899] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 1,24 = 248
[20:40:01.1112899] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
248 * 1 = 248

it re-calculated quota, when I rejoined after restart and now did it right, interesting.
(still don't know from what it got 0.04 penalty, but its previous calculations mistake)

so, it breaks from somewhat in lobby join/leave cycle, but repairs from restarting game? 🤔

[late anchor]

ohhh

super weird

Yeah so that's happening for me too with the player multiplier being zero

[brazen ibex]

still affects only problem when it calculates wrong PlayerMultiplayer and not Penalties themselves, but at least it's something already.

[late anchor]

strangely for me everything looks fine in game tho

like it only shows up in the logs

[brazen ibex]

very strange...

here's new savefile, happened again, but different thing...

[20:55:00.7514779] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0,6
[20:55:00.7514779] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 180 of 300 credits
[20:55:00.7514779] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,2
[20:55:00.7514779] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 0,2 = 40
[20:55:00.7514779] [Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
40 * 0 = 0

[late anchor]

hmmm

[late anchor]

oh...

And it also shows up correctly for you

[brazen ibex]

yeah

[late anchor]

I mean I'm thoroughly confused at this point

This is what's happening to me rn:

[21:02:28.0659307] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0.5
[21:02:28.0659307] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  200 * 2.5 = 500
[21:02:28.0659307] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  500 * 0 = 0

[brazen ibex]

not working properly either, as I see? 😉

[late anchor]

yeah, and with other weirdness

like for some reason it's displaying 300, instead of the base or what it's supposed to show

[brazen ibex]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[late anchor]

I'm not sure if looking at my code is gonna be enough to figure this out. Cause it's an incompatibility with something.

And it's sorta breaking all the rules from my pov

[brazen ibex]

🤔
Anyway, it’s worth doing, I suppose?

I will test it with different mod setups, but I dont know how long it will take 🫡

btw, latest save file totally broken, it doesn't fix even after full restart

[late anchor]

dang

[brazen ibex]

here it is, if you need it

[late anchor]

thanks

I think the best thing to do is look through and find mods that are prime suspects for the incompatibility

I can help give ideas on that

I'll take a look right now

Immediately I think of GeneralImprovements

Clearly Vanilly can use it without much problem, but it may be due to how you have it configured

[brazen ibex]

nah

only your mod is enabled :d

maybe trouble with config leftovers, but I dont think so?

different savefile, ofc.

[late anchor]

oh

okay then

[brazen ibex]

[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0,6
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 72 of 120 credits
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,2
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 1,4 = 280
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
280 * 0 = 0

it's player multiplier bug tho, but I have thought that other ones could occur too

[late anchor]

Well I'll see what I can do then

[brazen ibex]

just wanted to say, that im not sure about other ones (because I can't even imagine how it possible to happen) and...

[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0,6
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 180 of 300 credits
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,2
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 0,2 = 40
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
40 * 0 = 0

here it is.
Vanilla too (only ur mod)

only one that left is 0.04 penalty (my beloved), but I think sooner or later it will occur too

[brazen ibex]

it happens after I remove buggy savefile and create new one without restarting the game, i suppose?

[late anchor]

And also the quota reducing to almost nothing right?

[brazen ibex]

quota reducing to almost nothing happens if u restart game with

[brazen ibex]

this one

i think

but if u keep playing its just base quota

[late anchor]

okay...

[brazen ibex]

most mysterious one - 0.04 penalty buddy, I dont know how to recreate this :d
But i will try

but in any case it seems like you need to take a look at your code and then we will see how it is going.

So...
Can only hope it won't take much time and wish you good luck :d

[late anchor]

yeah, thanks 😅

I'm gonna try to get a sense of where it's going wrong on the player multiplier first

So this is interesting. I basically made it update the player count calculation when it's doing death consequences. I did that just because I wanted it to log things. But after making that change, restarting and loading the same save, things work now for me.

I was only having trouble with the player multiplier tho

So it may be that that's a workaround for the bug

Still doesn't make much sense to me though

[brazen ibex]

only thing I can say, that's if you do so it can't go below 1 it will may fix this for singleplayer, but it will still be broken for parties, I suppose 🤔

but I think u know it without me 😅

[late anchor]

Yeah, I see what you're saying for sure

Only thing is, that should be true without me having to set it explicitly

[brazen ibex]

u mean, u just made hotfix?
or I don't get what u tried to say

[late anchor]

Well, I made a change to my version that I have on my computer

But I didn't push a new version no

[brazen ibex]

yeah, that's what I tried to ask 😅
Really interesting.

Maybe it will somehow fix this bug with penalty too? 🤔
(because, I think it somehow bounded with player multiplier)

[late anchor]

I highly doubt it to be honest

but all things are possible

[brazen ibex]

[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 0 of 120 credits
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,04
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier
200 * 0,24 = 48
[Debug :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier
48 * 0 = 0

yay!
I got it :d

took, like, 100 tries...

i dont fucking know how to recreate it, but it happens in vanilla too

[late anchor]

oop

okay

that's interesting though

You already had a penalty of 0.2 I guess

[brazen ibex]

y

[late anchor]

And it didn't delete that from the equation

it just went like -1

weird

[brazen ibex]

it happens with 9/10 my savefiles now, so it's independent problem (from 0.04 thingy)

[late anchor]

yeah

[brazen ibex]

yeah, MAYBE they somehow bonded, but I dont think so?

[brazen ibex]

like u said here :d

[late anchor]

Oh, I did notice, I guess the latest version still doesn't have all the logging that I've added now

I've added more places where it logs

[brazen ibex]

tbh, hope u will do something that I wouldn't need to bother again with recreating 0.04 penalty thingy :d
Other ones pretty simple to recreate, but this one shitty one...

[late anchor]

Well I think you've given me pretty much all the information you could from recreating it that time

You know what I mean?

You did your part, and that info is just gonna help as much as it helps

[brazen ibex]

hope so :d

[late anchor]

I'm planning to make sure everything makes sense, and then release an update that has the increased logging in it

[brazen ibex]

u just said about some extra logging so I had this thought :d

k, in that case, I'll rely on you and hope for fixes soon.

[late anchor]

Okay, 2.0.2 is uploaded

There are some other changes, see the changelog

I'm done testing for now, but I'll try again at fixing this stuff tomorrow at the very least

[brazen ibex]

y, I will try new version tomorrow too.

[late anchor]

Actually I won't be testing things today cause I'm going camping.

[frozen junco]

Have fun with that

[brazen ibex]

hf

[brazen ibex]

[13:29:05.0827507] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0,400000005960464
[13:29:05.0827507] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 72 of 180 credits
[13:29:05.0827507] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,200000002980232
[13:29:05.0827507] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  200 * 1,40000000596046 = 280,000001192093
[13:29:05.0827507] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  280,000001192093 * 0 = 0```

```[13:55:46.8008383] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculating Death Consequences for 1 players.  1 dead, 0 recovered.
[13:55:46.8008383] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Credit Penalty of 0,400000005960464
[13:55:46.8008383] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] You lost 120 of 300 credits
[13:55:46.8008383] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Calculated Dynamic Quota Penalty of 0,200000002980232
[13:55:46.8008383] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  200 * 0,200000002980232 = 40,0000005960464
[13:55:46.8008383] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  40,0000005960464 * 0 = 0```

Penalty and Player multiplier still count people as 0 sometimes (conditions are same as earlier).
Thought that maybe it's thresholds causing some of problems, but set them to 0 and nothing changed, so maybe problem not here 🤔

Also, Team Wipe penalty doesn't work at all (maybe singleplayer problem, but I don't think so)

tbh, you could have added this extra logging earlier - because now, at least, you can see that the problem isn't with "death consequences calculation" (as i can see) and it bugs out later 🤔 
(idk how much it will help you for real, but seems very useful)

[brazen ibex]

btw, funny thing about 0.04 penalty - it's happening, because I always jump from the ship in the start of the round (for testing purposes) and in some cases body somehow becomes recovered, lol.
My bad.

[late anchor]

ahh okay

one less thing to fix 🎉

[brazen ibex]

Hello, any news ?

[late anchor]

Nope

I've been doing other stuff

[late anchor]

There is very little chance that I'll get these issues fixed before leaving for the summer, and possibly longer

I don't have my laptop with me now, but next week I'll update the README to explain the current issues and that I'm no longer maintaining the mod

[brazen ibex]

Oh, that's quite sad. I hope you'll at least take a look, because I think the last logs I provided should be very helpful — so fixing this (at least the main issue with calculating 0 instead of 1+ ) might not be a big deal 🤔
But I'm not good at coding, so I can't say for sure 😔

btw, after you leave maintaining the mod - are you giving this "role" to someone or just letting know, that's mod no more maintained ?

[late anchor]

I don't have anyone to hand it off to as of now. If someone steps up, I'd be more than happy for them to fork it.

Fixing the bug is just a matter of finding the root cause. Debugging isn't something you can really predict. It can be very easy to miss the solution that's right in front of you.

I probably won't be able to put much attention towards debugging before I leave, because I'm preparing to go to a summer job out of state in just a few weeks.

[crystal mesa]

fyi the font fix mod causes this

[frozen junco]

font update? ive got it and it doesnt do that

did you put it on NoDollar

because the other option messes things up occasionally

[frozen junco]

huh

whats your profile code

[crystal mesa]

019dec6b-4ad4-2031-1782-127e56acc917

hella chonk list xd

cant even get into a game

[frozen junco]

mirage, diversity, rebalanced moons, lcsoundtool, customsounds, broken
bettermonitors, lethalescapeupdated probably broken

[crystal mesa]

dayum is there a confirmed list?

[late anchor]

I think font update is set as a soft dependency. Can you still launch Quota Overhaul without it?

Font Update just fixes a cosmetic bug in QuotaOverhaul. If QuotaOverhaul can't load without it, I'll fix that. Otherwise it's not my wheelhouse.

Oh, and even if your mod manager gives a warning about Font Update being a dependency, leave it disabled anyway and see if the game actually launches. There's a difference between Thunderstore dependencies and BepInEx dependencies.

[brazen ibex]

Maybe you should try feeding your code to the AI (if you haven't already), because it could be a good source of simple ideas that might lead you to a potential fix.

But, in any case, I hope good luck will be with you, including your summer job too.

[crystal mesa]

i can get into main menu but not the game cause of my other mods

[late anchor]

Thanks man

I've never used AI for really anything lol. I guess I could give it a try.

[brazen ibex]

Just thought a bit about problems in ur mod after our game session and can say something.

In case if u can do something atm (or at least think about it?) - I think that's the root of problem in way the data of quota/credits are saved/storing, because all the time I could reproduce bugs were rejoining lobby/restarting game or changing configs, so maybe you can try searching for something in this way, not in penalties calculation.

Will tell more, when I can test one thing (rn I'm going to sleep), but if u have free time rn - u can at least think about it.

If not - I will tell more in 12 hours or so and hope it will be helpful

[elder flame]

Would you say the saved quota problems you are experiencing, happen when you reload a save or only upon restarting the game? Because I have the same issue and in this state the mod doesn’t feel playable to me

[brazen ibex]

[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] New Base Quota is 332
[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:35.1184772] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:35.1614733] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Saving data```


Yeah, something totally is wrong with how it is saved

[brazen ibex]

This is what I had before restart

and that's what I have got AFTER restarting lobby

[15:03:55.4723342] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  0 * 0 = 0
[15:03:55.4723342] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Quota before loading data: 0
[15:03:55.4723342] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Loading data...
[15:03:55.4723342] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Base Quota: 332
[15:03:55.4723342] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Highest Player Coun This Quota: 0
[15:03:55.4723342] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Is Quota In Progress: False
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  332 * 1 = 332
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  332 * 0 = 0
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  200 * 1 = 200
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  200 * 0 = 0
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  200 * 1 = 200
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  200 * 0 = 0
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPenaltyMultiplier.  200 * 1 = 200
[15:03:55.4733348] [Info   :QuotaOverhaul] Applying quota multiplier: QuotaPlayerMultiplier.  200 * 0 = 0```

[brazen ibex]

As I have already said, all of these can probably cause a bug - changing config or reloading game/save file, but I dunno exact conditions and exact reason why does this happening

[elder flame]

What did you do between these results? Did just go to main menu or restart?

[brazen ibex]

yep

main menu

that's all

done quota, waited for save and restarted lobby

[brazen ibex]

I hope with this, Lucius will have enough time to fix the issue, because it looks very close to the root cause of the problem 🙂

[elder flame]

Agreed

[late anchor]

Thank you, I had come to the same conclusion but I kinda forgot lol

Or wouldn't have focused as hard on it if you hadn't said something. So yes that's helpful.

In the example you gave, it looks like RecordPlayersThisQuota was saved incorrectly and then not updated. That is what's used to calculate the player count multiplier.

The other bugs aren't really explained by this though. At least not that I can see right now.

[brazen ibex]

Btw, seeya a short time ago released powerful all-in-one quota mod, so, maybe, you can now fully focus on your summer job and have bit more free time.

Didn't test it yet, but it looks very good.

Tbh, kinda sad about hours that I spent last week(s) trying to figure out what's the reason of mod not working properly, but in any case, I'm glad that everything ended well 😅

By the way, I hope this didn't sound rude at all 🥲

Here is his mod, if ur curious https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/seechela/Configurable_Quota/

Anyway, I wish you success in your summer job and hope you get some good rest and prepare well beforehand! 🙂

[late anchor]

Oh perfect! That looks really good. Yeah I'm sorry your effort was wasted. I didn't mean to pressure you to do that work at any point, so I apologize if it seemed that way. That is just how it goes sometimes tho.

[brazen ibex]

nah, it's fine, just liked the idea of ur mod and so, wanted it to work properly 👍

Who knew someone this awesome would come along and do it all in our place 😄