Arduous Hardships/Arduous Journeys

[solar flame]

I havent even seen the rubber rooms yet

but for a while ive had runs die immediately on gratar because of the spike trap issue LOL

[terse mango]

its 0.33% on gratar

the same as old manor experimentation chance

[solar flame]

icic

[terse mango]

just did a test run

its fine, arguably more playable
the real funny thing is, due to my edits of the rubber rooms' size generation, sometimes only the reception counter at main entrance spawns, and all of the loot is at the loot node thats there

its pretty frequent here from what i tested

[terse mango]

im going to add the cabinet to hardships, but i dont know if ill add them to journeys

AJ has a lot more cache already

and i think the harbinger does fine as an extra addition

AH Version 2.4.0

• Cabinet
• Removed CodeRebirth :(

[hidden plinth]

code unbirth

why

[terse mango]

im totally not going to add it back because i miss the snow globe/puppeteer even though the snow globe is not that big of a deal to be lost and the puppeteer is janky in a lot of ways

also the addition of the cabinet kinda makes the puppeteer harder to deal with tbh

[terse mango]

istg i will NEVER fully remember every change i need to do for something if i never need to

had to upload two small updates to fix things i forgot jfhjfhwifhweuf

[terse mango]

just curious

[static harness]

GOATED

modpack

Friends usually hate modded LC

But AJ is perfect.

[terse mango]

how far did you all get?

[static harness]

i was opening the game rn to see

there was some guy that spawned nutcrackers

whatever moon that was

i have to carry so hard 😭

Motra

2/5 people know nutcracker mechanics 💀

[terse mango]

that is so funny

[terse mango]

harbinger teleports monsters, not spawns

[static harness]

waht the fuck thats worse

[terse mango]

it cant teleport a couple things

[static harness]

so many nuts... so many :desolate:

[terse mango]

snare fleas, bunker spider, maneater, coil-heads, ghost girl, circuit bees

[static harness]

bees??

does that mean bees can be inside on some interiors?

[terse mango]

theyre still inside on hyve

thats why

[static harness]

oh bruh

[terse mango]

although not too frequent cause im not that evil

[static harness]

Only ran into him once

[terse mango]

in hardships they are occasional indoor spawns for two moons but even rarer than hyve in AJ i think

[static harness]

It looked like he spawned over a fragile box, was that a coincidence & did he just teleport to me

[terse mango]

im not sure what you mean

[static harness]

He appeared to the right of me, I backed away

Right over a box

[terse mango]

oh thats just him being over scrap

[static harness]

Oh!

[terse mango]

yeah he teleported to you

he has two timers always ticking
one to teleport to a player
one to teleport a monster nearby a player if close enough to one

[static harness]

jump scare was crazy

[terse mango]

first is 45 seconds
second is 17

[static harness]

oo

good to know 💀

[static harness]

How to make it so anyone can land? 💀
Host has the best internet but is an alt tab addict haha

[short crane]

Its an issue with LLL, it doesn't have a fix yet 😦

[terse mango]

i mean you can enable the generalimprovements setting

i have it disabled to respect the host being AFK

[short crane]

I've heard lots of people saying it doesn't work 🤔

[static harness]

it worked for us

[short crane]

Oh amazing! Then ignore what i said hehe

[gilded prism]

I find things like that can be buggy, it seems different for everyone though

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.4.4

• Decreased the Cabinet's max weight it can carry to 85 LBS
• Reduced the chance the Cabinet can spawn on a couple moons
• Reduced the chance of the Harbinger spawning on Offense, March, and Adamance

[terse mango]

Both Mod Packs

• Made the Harbinger able to teleport Tulip Snakes (for if they're brought inside)

weirdly the game doesnt break completely if the harbinger tries to teleport a tulip snake on someones head

it just doesnt teleport it and makes an error show up

which isnt really a big deal imo

its one error, no spam

[strange gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/tulip-snake-lethal-company-meme-flower-snake-lethal-gif-4934095674208557478

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.4.7

• Updated Cabinet
  • Made the Cabinet take 4 seconds to get angry when stared at

changed mostly for people who havent experienced the cabinet before and dont know wtf is going on with it

[hidden plinth]

what's the fov that the cabinet gets angry in

[terse mango]

its like

[hidden plinth]

is it kinda like the bracken that it can be in the furthest 10% of your screen without making it mad

[terse mango]

inbetween bracken and coil-head for what counts as looking at it

[hidden plinth]

ah

it hasn't spawned for me yet so idk how it behaves

[terse mango]

in this mod pack or your own

[hidden plinth]

mine

[terse mango]

then i would change weights maybe

[hidden plinth]

are the default weights too low or something

[terse mango]

depends on which moon
but also, it doesnt have default weights for every single modded moon

Experimentation:1,Assurance:0,Vow:7,Offense:0,March:8,Adamance:12,Rend:150,Dine:20,Titan:80,Embrion:40,Artifice:310,attenuation:1,retinue:8,volition:45,detritus:30,icebound:26,collateral:2,hydro:6,landslide:1,integrity:28,humidity:36,submersion:13,corrosion:2,vertigo:18,brutality:80,devastation:9,acidir:29,asteroid13:0,atlantica:0,calist:19,cubatres:31,demetrica:14,ducksteroid14:0,empra:56,etern:31,filitrios:14,fissionc:20,gratar:0,hyve:0,hyx:20,infernis:0,junic:0,lecaro:0,motra:0,polarus:16,thalasso:0,trite:19,utril:11,wither:56

[hidden plinth]

ahah, i haven't gone to the moons it has high weight on 💀

[terse mango]

it might be a while before i update AJ

i have seen a majority of new content but i want to play each new wesley moon in their default state before i know what would be interesting changes

plus i want to integrate new items and interiors into other moons
on top of something else im not going to spoil exists

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.4.9

• Updated mods
• Changed the loot spawns on Bozoros and Penumbra a little bit

[terse mango]

Arduous Journeys Version 2.0.0

Spoilers added here for those who have not seen the new Wesley content yet

||- Added the new Wesley content to places, changed value ranges/weights of new items also||
|| - The new moons are added and act as additional options for the first 6 tiers of this mod pack's tier progression (this includes a free moon alongside Gratar)||
|| - New scrap spawns on several moons||
|| - New monster spawns on several moons||
|| - Every moon before this update now has either the Fractured Complex and/or Greenhouse as an additional possible interior||
||- The Harbinger can now teleport Void-Heads||
||- The Zap Gun can now explode Void-Heads and Arachnoheads (6 seconds and 4 seconds respectfully)||
||- Made the Art Gallery spawn no extra scrap items due to the addition of safes/movable paintings||
|| - This is a temporary solution, I'm hoping Wesley eventually makes them able to be disabled||
||- Removed "Pencil" from the SellMyScrap don't sell list||
||- Fixed the flintlock not being in Infernis' scrap pool||
||- Fixed the Belt Bag not being in the blacklisted items for stuff you can store in the Belt Bag||
||- Updated the Mod Pack Info log with various fixes and additions||
|| - I will additionally mention a temporary request I wrote in it: Please do not use the Belt Bag if a safe in the Art Gallery gives you one, its overpowered due to how the Belt Bags changes are, and I would prefer no one abuse the fact safes drop them, but I cannot control everyone, so it's your own call||

god i wish discord spoiler text wasnt ass on pc

anyways there is a couple changes i already know i need to make

i will do those later

oh wait actually i should do the changes rn

reasons

https://tenor.com/view/death-die-dies-explode-explodes-gif-2004373368647406706

AJ Version 2.0.1

• Earth Leviathans spawn indoors at Hyx and Infernis again (iforgottoaddthistothelastpatchnoteslol)
• Added a custom log to Repress that is an alternative to the one on Gratar (it's the same text, just added in case someone plays Repress in the mod pack first)
• Fixed outdated README stuff

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.4.10

• Updated Thallasic
• Moved Dev Log 1 a bit

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.4.11

• Increased Vow's min/max scrap by 2
• Updated Frisbee

AJ Version 2.0.2

• Dreceased Repress' indoor power to 5
• Swapped the power Eyeless Dogs and Earth Leviathans occupy on Asteroid-13
• Reduced the chance the ||Void-Head|| spawns on Core
• Increased the min/max scrap of Gloom by 2
• Removed the ||Void-Head|| spawn from Lecaro and replaced it with Coil-Heads

[terse mango]

i have updated both mod packs for the CSL update

i also changed the min/max additive size of most interiors (to be bigger) in AJ

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.5.0

• Added the Sanguine Capsule from UsualScrap to various moons
• Added the Candy Dispenser from UsualScrap to more moons (it doesn't deal x2 damage anymore)
• Altered the value range of the Candy Dispenser
• Removed Sizable Scissors from a few moons
• Replaced the Frigid Capsule with the Sanguine Capsule on Aquar

[gilded prism]

No more Candy Dispenser meta 😭

Now Seichi is the endgame meta for its weapons

[short crane]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[abstract wyvern]

pocket watch is broken rn in AH. It just disappears when dropped

[terse mango]

that isnt my fault

[abstract wyvern]

I understand. Anyways, it just got fixed in new Usual scrap update

[hidden plinth]

Pocket watch seems a little weird right now

I got it to do the thing that happens in desyncs while playing solo lmfao

Picked it up with a belt bag, it stayed there on the ground without interact trigger, but as soon as I dropped it out of the bag it disappeared and became a normal scrap again

[terse mango]

uploaded update with usualscrap updated since some people dont update mods when they download mod packs

[terse mango]

peak challenge moon this week

[terse mango]

released an update for both mod packs, mostly just mod update stuff, nothing too crazy
however, AJ can now have SIDs since sciencebird tweaks added an option to blacklist specific items from being selected for a SID
the initial reason i turned them off was due to the gimmick i gave the huge harold and comb chair

[raw briar]

How do you go to the top of this page?

[terse mango]

pinned messages

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.6.0

• Replaced Adoration with the modded moon "Harbringer"
  • and no i did not forget anything like skins or moving the custom logs this time..
• Fixed a few small things

[terse mango]

today i decided to release a special version of arduous hardships publically
this is in celebration of 10k downloads, and also for how grateful i am for the reception of arduous hardships, even if not very large, im still happy people enjoyed my project, and got to experience the concept of moon content configuration for a mod pack, and just in general, a mod pack with high effort put into the experience of it
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/purpletheproto/ArduousHardshipsUltimatum/

i will be leaving my IRL home in 3-4 days, so i wont be able to do anything related to lethal company for a long time until i get personal stuff straightened out, so enjoy the exclusive things, and more chill early-game on ultimatum, if youd like to do so

also
DO NOT install the missing dependencies, they arent required and add things not meant to be in the pack

the only public release consideration i did was add a custom log to all the free moons at main entrance, they all say the exact same thing, as well as some more details about whats exclusive to this mod pack

speaking of which

[gilded prism]

Well gone Purple, it has been a pleasure to be part of this saga

[strange gorge]

Waiter, waiter a third arduous hardships!

-# In seriousness they’re super high quality modpacks. Definitely deserved

[terse mango]

you say that like ill never be around again

[gilded prism]

I imagine it will be a while, but I did not exactly mean it like that

10k downloads is a big milestone and I just wanted to say the journey to it was very fun

[terse mango]

AHU Ver 1.0.3

• Increased Experimentation's min/max scrap to 7 - 11
• Decreased the chance of Radioactive Cells, Gloomy Capsules, and glass spawning on Excando
• Fixed the custom logs on Utril and Thallasic not loading

[terse mango]

all 3 mod packs updated

im too tired to type changes here

[terse mango]

AJ Version 2.0.11

• Roart changes
  • Added Snare Fleas to possible indoor spawns
  • Reduced chance of Maneater and Harbinger spawning (latter not as excessive)
  • Reduced Old Bird count to 2
  • Decreased spawn curve scaler
  • Decreased interior size
  • Removed coconuts from scrap spawns
• Removed FairGiants and enabled ButteRyBalance blizzard vision divider
• Mod updates

did last two bullet points to the other two mod packs

[hidden plinth]

what's the reason for ditching fairgiants

[terse mango]

i only kept it for the blizzard vision divider

and i didnt know butterybalance had that

[hidden plinth]

so you weren't using it for the better pathfinding away?

[terse mango]

didnt have to cause butteryfixes also patches it

[hidden plinth]

hmm

[terse mango]

Fixed FairGiants still being cached lol

[terse mango]

AHU Version 1.0.8

• Fixed StarlancerAIFix and BetterSprayPaint not being included jesus fucking christ that is REALLY bad that SAIF wasn't on holy fuck

[gilded prism]

Shocked the modpack even booted up without it

I guess it technically is not critical for anything

[terse mango]

perfect etern round in AJ

idk why the grade isnt S

but whatever

[smoky lotus]

Dang right when I left...

[terse mango]

AHU Version 1.1.0 (1.0.10 in available versions because I'm stupid)

• Added a rare chance for the Phantom Piper to spawn on Excando and take the entire nighttime power available
  • You can kill them for 5 - 11 value ranged Bagpipes if you want, it just takes one hit lol
• templatemoon changes
  • Removed turrets and spike traps
  • Void-Head now spawns outside instead of inside
  • Reduced landmine count 22 > 9
  • Slightly increased spawn curve scaler
  • Reduced indoor power 15 > 14
• Made Haunted Harpists take longer to aggro from noise
• Made Haunted Harpists take 1 power instead of 0.5
• Updated README and custom data chips to mention the Phantom Piper

[terse mango]

AHU Version 1.2.0

• Added the Hotel Insanity interior (my calling!)
• Removed the Void-Head from Bozoros
• Fixed some config stuff + more cleaning

[terse mango]

just a quick question

should harbinger teleport hygroderes?

[smoky lotus]

AH my goat

[terse mango]

AH: Ultimatum Version 1.3.0

IMPORTANT UPDATE

I completely altered the information about uninstalling the mods that are "missing dependencies", both on the README and custom data chips on the free moons. I realized that the mod pack installation itself automatically downloads mods marked as missing dependencies, and as I've (hopefully) made clear, those mods are not meant to be in the pack. I assumed that it didn't just do this, and it was a by choice thing to install missing dependencies, but it was much more irritating than I thought (for me). So, I've completely rewrote the guide for properly playing, and now you will know what mods to remove, as I've made a list of the ones to remove on the Thunderstore README; the data chip contents now just say to read the README for more information. Of course, some people still won't get it/care to get it, but if you're not one of those people: Thank you for reading what should be, and I apologize for if it was confusing about which mods to uninstall, enjoy the mod pack!

[warm badger]

is it not possible to have diffoz tweaks prevent those unwanted dependencies from loading btw? I thought it let you do that

[terse mango]

would only work for autoscroll, levelmusiclib, and moon day speed multiplier patcher

[warm badger]

ah, rats

[strange gorge]

Wait MonoDetour and MonoDetour BepInEx 5 are unnecessary for LethalLib to work?

[lunar star]

ye

they're added by hamunii for no real reason other than the very miniscule and low potential that it might help a dev out with some very specific coding scenarios

[strange gorge]

Wow. That’s actually really dumb.

Adding 2 dependencies to a good 30% of the mods on thunderstore is a wonderful idea

[lunar star]

yes

[terse mango]

way more than 30%

[terse mango]

AJ Version 2.1.0

• Updated Thalasso's min/max scrap count due to a recent inclusion on it
• Added the human heart to the muted scrap list in ScienceBird Tweaks

[terse mango]

chat
what is he cooking

[terse mango]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/purpletheproto/TheCompanysLethalTrials/

please do let me know how it is :)

[warm badger]

Sounds really cool

[terse mango]

ok so just to mention
apparently, if you set the starting moon to dine with sciencebird tweaks, it just completely breaks the game
guess which moon i intended trial 2 to be

[warm badger]

https://tenor.com/view/burgerpants-undertale-shake-shaking-burger-pants-gif-14100517075195591894

[strange gorge]

that sucks, atleast trial 2 is titan.

[terse mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1406459610881069136/1413991110594007140/good_and_evil.gif

[terse mango]

Update for both AH and AHU

• Updated UsualScrap
• Reduced Quasara's indoor power to 11
• Chaned some spawn weights on Quasara
• Reduced Hygrodere Zap Gun explosion time to 11 seconds

thanks to @tender wagon for noticing how high quasaras indoor power was, this was a typo lol (20 power)

[tender wagon]

I suffered for 6 hours

I beat bugged quasara on eclipsed only solo

[strange gorge]

Should increase experimentation to 20 power

[terse mango]

no

also i forgot to fix the spawn weights of the new usualscrap stuff

lollipops were renamed/remodeled and the sanguine capsule is now the sacrifical capsule

didnt forget for AHU though :P

[terse mango]

i havent posted recent changelogs here cause idrk how to format updates for 3 separate mod packs lol

i suppose ill do this

Update

• Removed RadarEdits and replaced it with Universal Radar (AH, AJ, AHU)
• Added the mods MattyFixes and ReverbTriggerFix (AH, AJ, AHU)
  • Apologies for my stupidity with MattyFixes btw...
• Increased Thallasic's min/max scrap by 2 (AH, AHU)
• Added another scrap item from Legmr Moon around places (AHU)
• Made some tweaks to templatemoon (AHU)
• Added Pops to the SellMyScrap don't sell list (AHU)

maybe looks weird for here idk

[strange gorge]

This list format works well

[short crane]

What about

• AH/AJ/AHU : Removed RadarEdits

[gilded prism]

What made you come around to MattyFixes? I know you were kinda staying away from that mod

[hidden plinth]

why were you staying away from it? (original was accidental caps lock)

[terse mango]

because i didnt know how to properly stop it changing item rotations

this is an extremely nitpicky reason but it is true

at the time i had a really specific item placement desire for stuff on the ship, mattyfixes was messing with my muscle memory for organization because of the changes

but if you want a slightly better reason, i specifically hated the position change for spawned in candy, old phones, and magnifying glasses, because i was really used to them spawning straight, and it made it hard to tell if i was looking at an item thats part of a hoarding bug nest

(because hoarding bugs always drop items tilted)

[gilded prism]

I mean, Hoarding Bug nests are rarely if ever set directly in a scrap spawn spot, so this should not be a huge loss

[terse mango]

as a whole i tend to be bothered more so by small things rather than large things, including for personal traumatic events and whatnot

that is its own problem i maybe need to work on at some point

but it is why this bothered me so much

if you want to know the solution is setting all items with a changed coordinate to "default"

which sounds redundant but "default" equals 100% vanilla no changes

i suppose thats another problem i have with mattyfixes, the config is very undiscriptive on several settings

and ultimately i dont even understand why this particular setting is a thing in mattyfixes

because its not a bug or an egregious problem in vanilla at all

its not a "fix" for anything and theres no reason for it to exist

[terse mango]

Arduous Hardships Version 2.7.5

• Happy (early) Halloween!
  • Made shovels free for the occasion :)

[alpine fjord]

is there a code for this modpack

[strange gorge]

You can download it like other mods on the “Online Mods” section.

[terse mango]

do you need one for some reason?

[alpine fjord]

i usually do copy from code to install a modpack

i dont know how to do it other ways

[short crane]

installing it through the mod manager

[short crane]

same as a mod

[terse mango]

you can just download it like a mod yeah

[alpine fjord]

so how do i install it without the code then?

[terse mango]

i shouldnt give a code because gale and r2modman have desync with codes

....like a normal mod

[short crane]

through the mod manager, same as a mod

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kiss-lunaistabby-kitty-cute-cat-gif-702362695713301435

you gotta create a new profile

then inside it, search for arduous whatever

and install!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[alpine fjord]

this one correct?

[short crane]

yes!!!!

or journeys if you want the wesley's moons version

[alpine fjord]

thank you!!

[short crane]

yippee!!!!!!!

hope you have fun!

[warm badger]

the world is a beautiful place where people help eachother and prosper, truly

Double Thumbs Up!

hope you have fun brotha

[terse mango]

just remember halloween shenanigans are happening rn

the amount of men is not normal, this is just their recent gig, they paid me two little caesars pizzas for this opportunity

a fair deal id say

[short crane]

wa

now i want pizza

can you share me a slice

[terse mango]

no its cheese sauce pretzel crust

its too good to share

top ten impossible challenges

[short crane]

a bite?

[smoky lotus]

not putting on Trick' R' Treat jester and Jack-o-cracker nutcracker is crazy

[terse mango]

im too scared to break the config

[smoky lotus]

thats fair af

[alpine fjord]

question

you know how you heal yourself from the medkit on the wall? do you need to enable it from in game or i need to install it onto the modpack?

[terse mango]

what

there is no medkit

[alpine fjord]

ill show you give me a sec

also how do you change the qutoa? its too high

[terse mango]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-happy-cute-cutie-bloke-gif-16712418804254293730

this is not in my mod pack normally

i dont know what youre adding

[alpine fjord]

oh your right i think i added the wrong modpack oops

[short crane]

Wa

[terse mango]

here 01997dee-5a1f-8e2a-6cd0-c7006d622925

again, try not to die to the halloween men

[alpine fjord]

thanks!

[tender wagon]

You really just accepted 2 pizzas to have these men populate these moons just to be given major concussions via blunt force object

Have you no heart?

[gilded prism]

I mean they should have known

[strange gorge]

Its not october yet smh

the spooky guys are ruining the autumn spirit

Where are the orange leaves

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[terse mango]

Updates

• Reverted Halloween stuff cause I ended up not really liking the idea, especially for newcomers to the pack (AH)
• The Harbinger can now teleport Oni (AH) (and the Phantom Bracken on AHU)
• Added a rare chance for Oni to spawn on Aquar (or Spectate for AHU) and Catalyst (AH)
• Increased the chance of Butler spawns on Thallasic (AH, AHU)
• Reduced both Aquar's (or Spectate's for AHU) and Catalyst's indoor power to 12 (AH)
• Replaced Masked with Oni on Espira (AHU)
• Redone the skin configs for Excando (AHU)
• Some small cleanup things (AH, AJ, AHU)

[short crane]

🍐

[terse mango]

AHU Update

• Fixed Legmr's interiors being able to spawn
• Added two scrap items to places, one for Excando

in other news i finally beat chumps mod pack in downloads

[short crane]

congrats!!

[terse mango]

Two Separate AHU Updates

1.6.3

• Added Seichi's "Special Key" to some moons
• Added Seichi's "Marriage Contract" to Excando
• Updated SellMyScrap config and items you'd want to keep recently added to places won't be sold unless by choice
• Updated a part of the README

1.6.4

• Increased the chance of El Gazpacho spawning on Excando
• Added the mod "MQLCTP"
• Changed some Cruiser radio aspects

@warm badger

[warm badger]

QUEEEE

fucking awesome

[smoky lotus]

Ahu my beloved

[terse mango]

i am really sorry for how many updates ultimatum has gotten today

i hate everything

[terse mango]

mugshot

[terse mango]

just gonna ask this question
if you, person reading, have read the information custom logs on any of my mod packs, are they too clunky, should i try to do some rewritting?

[terse mango]

Arduous Hardships Version 2.9.0

• Updated UsualScrap
• Removed the pocket watch due to complications
• Replaced the bloody capsule with the noxious capsule
• Increased the value range of Roses and sizable scissors
• Made dying cause something specific if you do something specific on Seichi
• Added the noxious capsule to Titan's scrap spawns
• Made pro flashlights 0 LBS
• Added the new UsualScrap item "Doomsayer Bell" to Penumbra's scrap spawns (no where else)

the other two mod packs will take more time to prepare an update for, especially AJ

everything mentioned here will be in the next AHU update besides the doomsayer bell

[strange gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-family-guy-tiktok-funny-clip-tasty-sand-gif-27509497

[hidden plinth]

Rotmaxxing

[gilded prism]

Just needs Minecraft parkour

Complete the Four Horsemen of brainrot

[strange gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-civilisation-minecraft-civilization-chicken-or-beef-parkour-gif-184988321108354063

[terse mango]

ultimatums update is released

heres everything thats only added in ultimatum's:

• Added evil spirits to moons
• Harbinger can now teleport her
• Increased the value range of the fuel cylinder and radioactive cell
• Added the Puppeteer's plushie from CodeRebirth to a few moons
• Added Jimothy's plushie from CodeRebirth to Excando
• Made berets 0 LBS
• Removed walking cane spawns on Utril
• Fixed a typo in Titan's scrap spawn weight string
• Fixed README error

[terse mango]

Small Update

• DawnLib had to be updated (AH, AHU)
• Removed Hotel Insanity (AHU)
  • Added the Dilapidated Manor from Wesley's interiors as its replacement (AHU)
• Added the Puppeteer's plushie to the SellMyScrap don't sell list (AHU)

[gilded prism]

No more DVloper 😔

[terse mango]

Small Update

• Blacklisted all enabled UsualScrap items from being selected as a SID (AH, AHU)
• Disabled ButteryFixes' Auto collect setting (AH, AHU)
  • Re-enabled the End orbit early setting also, I spread misinfo on the internet like 10 seconds too early :( (AH, AHU)
• Blacklisted all CodeRebirth plushies from being selected as a SID (AHU)

[terse mango]

update
apparently the blacklist doesnt work for this case

heres some additional context

i was able to get items with 0 weight as a SID

and it isnt absurdly rare either, especially in AHU, due to how many unused items there are with 0 weight set

xu has plans to fix this for coderebirth items

but its not only coderebirth this is happening for

so my solution that i think is less damaging overall is i have disabled SIDs entirely

[hidden plinth]

how are you blocking stuff from being in SID

[terse mango]

sciencebird tweaks

[hidden plinth]

dang

forgot it could do that

[terse mango]

average day of espira in AH

[short crane]

took me like 20 seconds to know wtf those green things were

[lunar star]

To be clear my solution does it all for items with 0 weight on a level, too much work to make it specifically coderebirth and I don't think 0 weight items should be getting considered in the sid anyway

[terse mango]

Update

NOTICE: These versions for AH and AHU were built for Lethal Company version 72, not version 73, DO NOT update any mods included

• Completely removed UsualScrap (AH, AHU)
• Changed several moons scrap spawns but specifically Titan's a lot (AH, AHU)
• Increased the value range of the Friscoin and Flick Stick (AH, AHU)
• Updated the Harbinger + changes to them (AH, AHU)
  • Harbinger can no longer be exploded by the Zap Gun via targeting it itself
  • Decreased Harbinger's linked health to fractures to 4
  • Made two fractures able to exist at once
  • Increased the time it takes to destroy a fracture to 6 seconds
• Disabled the CodeRebirth plushies (AHU)
• Added new items to Excando's scrap spawns (AHU)
• Wesley's Unhallowed Update Spoiler ||The Floating Head can now be exploded with the Zap Gun, it takes 11 seconds|| (AHU)
• Added WaterAssetRestorer to the list of unrequired dependencies (AHU)

Also, I will now start including mod pack codes in the update messages here.
AH Code - 0199b220-7f19-cadd-9c9d-bfa45a71605f
AHU Code - 0199b220-dcc7-6c05-351d-6cf982053fb1

[strange gorge]

I think this enemy would fit well with 20 spawn weight on all moons, and 100 spawn weight on Etern
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mistermoo33/TheJonkler/

[terse mango]

just to mention
im not updating any of the packs again until v73, but i already have some stuff ready and plans for dines new scrap

2/3 new wesley moons for AJ are complete, and the dine scrap will probably only be on crowd there.. youll get why

also im not adding the weather mod to it

[gilded prism]

Any thoughts on the Jonkler?

[terse mango]

ok updates to packs are going to be delayed even further

i am going to switch to lunarconfig finally, and it will take a while to get everything set up because of item weight/value range changes

but i am able to update them now once im done with that, thanks to a recent mod from pacoito

[hidden plinth]

Can't you enable a lunarconfig setting to run late so it sets its defaults to what central config had them at

[terse mango]

i use itemweights to change item value ranges and weight

lunar doesnt have an automatic transfer for that mod

[hidden plinth]

Oh right

[terse mango]

and CC doesnt do that anyways

[hidden plinth]

I'm ngl I never really knew the scope of cc

I used it for 1 thing and ditched it for LQ

[terse mango]

ok i decided im going to continue using itemweights because it has alteration options not present in lunarconfig (currently at least), but its also just, not broken, and much easier to manage use of

[lunar star]

curious, whats it got in terms of options this item weights?

[terse mango]

options to change the price of ship upgrades, decorations, and suits

can also change cruiser price with it

thats all, easy implementations for lunar

but its still easier to manage item weight/value ranges with

and its not broken so

[lunar star]

icic

fair enuff

lunar config would probably maybe suport that next update too

[terse mango]

already made the suggestion

as well as an option to edit furniture luck values

[lunar star]

should be easy for when it does its dawnlib update, it'll have everything it wants in one place anyway

[gilded prism]

Ye, once Lunar lets us edit all shop prices it will be perfect for what I need

Cruiser only being 370 needs to be brought up more, insane underprice

[strange gorge]

I’m surprised in lore the cruiser is so cheap given the high quality materials and safeguards the company puts into it

[terse mango]

hey guys so after some considerations
i am not going to be switching to lunarconfig yet, and the main reason why is simply because im exhausted

i have spent over a year and a half now on these mod packs, i didnt even think id get to a point id want to make a spin-off one
right before i was able to move on v73, i encountered an extremely bizarre issue in the arduous journeys profile
what happened was whenever i tried to generate the hallowed content config for wesleys new interiors, it just would not properly generate, the file was there, but my gale client was not allowing editing it at all, and it was also completely blank when i finally discovered this
this appears to be an issue that occasionally happens by pure random chance and can happen to probably any mod
(if you want a solution to this btw, generate the mod's files in a different profile, then go into the files for that mod, find the config, and copypaste the text using notepad into the profile its broken, this will only allow you to edit the config from your mod manager client until you launch the profile again, but it will save whatever changes you made still)

before i properly found a fix for it, i thought the only solution would be to completely clear out the cache 100% of wesleys mods, JLL, LLL, and centralconfig... so i did exactly that and i had to copypaste everything back into the centralconfig config afterwards

thats the main exhaustion catalyst for me not wanting to switch to lunarconfig, but in general i have had to take up so much time with so many different small things over the year and a half+ ive spent on my mod packs, and people may think im overexaggerating, but remember this mod pack isnt just a standard every day mod pack that only has installed mods and nothing more, there is a ton of configuring i had to do for multiple mods, and it has genuinely taken weeks of hours of my time to keep up with all of it

so yeah, for now, im sticking to centralconfig, until it properly breaks

[terse mango]

Arduous Hardships Version 2.11.0

• Moved on to V73, the new scrap originally for Dine is now at various locations, and has weight/value range changes
• Added the mod "Company Globes" which adds a globe scrap that changes its appearance based on where it spawns, so it's at a lot of locations to see various variants of it
• Removed UsefulZapGun as it doesn't work with V73
  • To counter-act the potential balance breaking, I made Barbers have a cap of 6 and only spawn one at a time, and reduced the chance of Butlers spawning on most moons
  • If it gets fixed, I'll add it back ASAP
• Re-enabled ButteryFixes' Auto collect setting
• Fixed some stuff in the info custom data chip

Code: 0199de11-3d31-b40a-aa92-6ac559e435e4

currently i cannot update ultimatum because the haunted harpist is broken rn

but all of the changes in this version of base AH will be in it

[azure swift]

I can relate to your pains. Mod configuration and curation can become really exhausting and hard. I, thus far, refrained from any centralized config mods as they already just looked like they'd be a giant hassle, especially with compatibility and longevity.

Though once Lunarconfig uses DawnLib exclusively I think I'd start using it because it seems future proof and reliable that way.

[terse mango]

thats a lie btw lol

i cant add the globe thing in AHU due to legmr moon

best mod 🙏

[terse mango]

honestly i would recommend most people dont do what ive done, unless they were already at it or have experience with it
getting into this stuff is already a lot to take in, and im thankful i started before CC existed cause it gave me an easier time learning about how to use it

the only reason its worse in my case is other mods i have to do a lot of configuration for, mainly colorful/extra/distinctenemyvariety

i actually have fun editing moon stats and item weight/value ranges

but my god the skin configs are hellish to do like i did them

[azure swift]

Haven't messed with reskinner mods either thus far, but I'll certainly look at those too because it is just really cool stuff you can do with it.

[azure swift]

How did you do them?

[terse mango]

most independant monster spawns have 5 possible skins
a 42%
a 29%
a 19%
an 8%
and a 3%

fuck you discord

i cant use tag based skin selection due to this concept

[azure swift]

I like messing with the weight systems quite a lot. Or Betterfog as well. I took deep dives for both WeatherRegistry and Betterfog when configuring those. LGU is also a big one that still requires some work

[terse mango]

so i had to painstakingly pick each skin for each independant spawn of each moon one by one

then actually use the sliders for the chances i want

and ive remade the skin configs multiple times for AH

in AJ its just one skin for each independant spawn

but i might change that with the next update for it since i lost all the configs due to clearing out everything

[azure swift]

I see. That does indeed sound painful ^-^'

[terse mango]

i should also actually put tulip snakes on more moons than just infernis

fun fact i just completely forgot they existed and didnt realize until i was editing hyx and just decided "fuck it idc enough"

[azure swift]

X3

[terse mango]

Arduous Journeys Version 3.0.0

• Moved on to V73, the new scrap originally for Dine is now at Crowd, and has weight/value range changes
• Added Extort, Narcotic, Crowd, and Descent as additional moon options for tiers 1, 7, 8, and 9 respectfully
• Added new Wesley items to various locations
• Added the new Wesley monsters to various locations
• Updated the Harbinger + changes to them
  • Decreased Harbinger's linked health to fractures to 4
  • Made two fractures able to exist at once
  • Increased the time it takes to destroy a fracture to 6 seconds
  • They can no longer teleport Jesters
• Removed UsefulZapGun as it doesn't work with V73
  • To counter-act the potential balance breaking, I made Barbers have a cap of 6 and only spawn one at a time, and reduced the chance of Butlers spawning on most moons
  • If it gets fixed, I'll add it back ASAP
• Toned down Baboon Hawk spawns on some moons
• Changed/Removed some evil as hell Void-Head spawns
• Decreased the amount of Old Birds on Roart to 1
• Fixed various random typos in spawn weight strings, min/max scrap, and moon info
• Added the human heart from Thalasso to the muted scrap list in ScienceBird Tweaks
• Redid some monster skin configs
  • Also put actual effort into Manticoil, Roaming Locusts, and Spore Lizard skin configs
• Added the mod "RuntimeIcons BetterRotations"
• Disabled SIDs entirely
• Added "V73dcfix"
• Enabled GeneralImprovements' setting to store item rotations
• Fixed some stuff in the info custom data chips, like actually there was straight up broken English in them and I'm so fucking sorry lol

[terse mango]

Code because I forgot lol:
0199ea63-0e06-9a35-0c67-4feb9a81b4f4

[verbal dragon]

Is there a way to reduce the amount of enemies and increase the amount of loot

[short crane]

[terse mango]

so you dont want to play the pack as it is designed

which one btw

[verbal dragon]

Honestly I just downloaded the first pack I saw that works with the most recent update lol

[short crane]

This pack is kinda designed to be hard

[warm badger]

lol fair enough

[terse mango]

so hardships

experimentation is intentionally designed to be as it is

when you get past it its a lot less rough for a while

[terse mango]

just to give everyone an idea of what im preparing for ultimatum
while i could technically update it right now, im not going to until a couple more mods update, and one of those im waiting for will also be in regular AH after its updated

but ultimatum is getting a ton of love soon, because theres 8 moons that you cant normally visit in it

however, i am making configurations for all of them, in order for them to be played via random routing

there will be some stuff exclusive to them also

[gilded prism]

I saw you brought Harbinger to normal AH, considering any other AHU content?

I am noticing how much bigger AHU is getting than AH

[terse mango]

i told you like 3 times harbringer was not exclusive to AHU

it was just in general the replacement for adoration

aside from that

theres several problems with me bringing over stuff in AHU to AH

the only things that really could be without a ton of issues is the monsters

but well
AH has its main cast already, and i am perfectly content with it being the harbinger and the cabinet for the rest of time

wesleys monsters are fairly offputting besides maybe the arachnohead

puppeteer should stay exclusive in AHU, in general its an extremely rough to deal with monster and id rather it be kept out of the experience i put the most care into

harpist
is actually fine tbh, i just again, dont think i need more monsters

i suppose lecaro is also a possible one but
do i really need to

and will anyone actually enjoy that, cause in general ive noticed a disdain of my lecaro edit

not just with friends

even after i nerfed it multiple times

[gilded prism]

I guess I keep forgetting because it definitely feels like an AHU moon

[terse mango]

Arduous Hardships Version 2.12.0

• Added the Blood Moon from LegendWeathers
  • Resurrect time is 27 seconds
  • Difficulty in the config is set to hard
  • Spawn weight is 8 on all moons
• Added the Party Popper scrap
• Updated README to mention Blood Moon
  Code: 019a3251-ee61-32fc-3919-3bb96251ad5d

[terse mango]

Arduous Journeys Version 3.1.0

• Added a configuration for Release, it's an alternative to Lecaro
  • For now, there's not much additional spawns for the new scrap this moon adds
• Added the ||Corpse Crawler|| to some moons
• Added Expanded Factory to some moons
• Fixed Hoarding Bugs not having a skin on Oldred
• Fixed Barbers not having a skin on Cubatres
  Code: 019a3bdb-e50d-f4ba-d173-19fab31e3643

[terse mango]

lol i just got the 0.24% rubber rooms on release

died to stupid shit of course

[sharp linden]

is there meant to be creatures on gratar now? we just got 2 slimes, spider, bracken, spore lizard, thumper

[terse mango]

i think whoever is hosting doesnt have centralconfig properly cached

i have had this happen before

also

[sharp linden]

interesting

[terse mango]

AH Version 2.12.1

• Updated Bozoros
• Added the Dubious Candy Corn to some places
  Code: 019a3d1a-4aee-35c9-d58b-bf5227433e1b

[silk granite]

anybody having this issue? im new to the modding and im lost.

[terse mango]

being honest
i dont know

[silk granite]

thanks for replying still tho, i appreicate it.

[terse mango]

i rarely ever have someone experience an issue with my packs

and it usually just amounts to them having to clean out cached LLL stuff to be able to properly load (into a lobby, not the game itself)

i have no idea what this is

[silk granite]

mmm ok.

[terse mango]

@silk granite so i asked a friend who knows this stuff better than me and she said this

usually this happens because the path is too long
which you can only really "fix" on your end by making your mod name shorter
which i think requires republishing a separate package under the new name
but it's probably more the responsibility of who posted this to try and reduce the path name themselves
by installing stuff to a different directory, etc.
also not to be shady but "Thunderstore Mod Manager" is like a billion more letters than "Gale"
there are multiple ways to do this (referring to reducing the path name)
im just saying if it is an issue with the path being too long, using the mod manager with the longest pathname doesn't help

[short crane]

in short, use another mod manager

[hidden plinth]

You can also mess with a registry key to prevent this from happening in the future

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/1805411/how-to-enable-long-file-path-names-in-windows-11

This will allow windows to see file paths longer than 255 characters

[terse mango]

@sharp linden this is seeming to be a problem as a whole

read up

you might want to make the name of the mod shorter

[sharp linden]

if only thunderstore let you do that easily

I'd have to make a new team probably as well because my name is long on there

[terse mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/206466559672188928/1336144554323218454/Sigle_optimized.gif

[warm badger]

yeah

i got da same issue

[sharp linden]

well shit

i might have to switch back to using the config folder instead then, because that would subtract 45 characters from the file path

[terse mango]

Arduous Hardships Version 2.13.0

• Replaced Harbringer with Narcotic
• Added acid canister and small diamond to some moons
• Fixed spawn weight strings being broken from dubious candy corn
• Updated things that had to be
• Added "LethalScrollFix"
  Code: 019a427f-2c0c-3cdf-eec0-e579c9ff3f57

[hidden plinth]

Is lethalscrollfix working for lethal config for you

Its not doing anything for me in that menu

[terse mango]

it seems fine...?

[hidden plinth]

At the least its still extremely sensitive

The volume menu is being applied correctly just not lethalconfig for me

[terse mango]

AJ Version 3.1.1

• Added the "old signal" to Calist
• Added DawnLib
• Fixed a random splash text error
  Code: 019a4d16-54df-b3d9-144a-b55bd3fac501

[terse mango]

AJ Version 3.2.0

• Added Facto and its scrap items, Facto is an alternative to Infernis that is hidden in the moons list
• Rare spawns of the Decrepit Store, Croc scraps, Mannequins, and Croc monster variants added to moons in tiers 6 - 9 (nice)
• Added a mention of Facto to the custom data chip on Infernis
• Fixed the gold pot not spawning on Infernis
  Code: 019a8825-c0f9-237f-23f6-aebc09280c28

AHU Version 2.0.0

Hi I was delaying this large update to wait for a mod to update but I decided I'm not going to anymore, so enjoy!

• Moved on to V73, the new scrap originally for Dine is now at various locations, and has weight/value range changes
• Replaced Harbringer with Narcotic
• Added the Blood Moon from LegendWeathers
  • Resurrect time is 27 seconds
  • Difficulty is hard
  • Spawn weight is 8 on all moons
• Added configurations for all 8 unused moons for compatibility with RandomMoonFX
  • Note that these moons are very gimmicky and can feel stupid, and some also have exclusive monsters and scraps
• Added the industrial fan from CodeRebirth to templatemoon, and a few of the random route moons
• Removed UsefulZapGun as it doesn't work with V73
  • To counter-act the potential balance breaking, I made Barbers have a cap of 6 and only spawn one at a time, and reduced the chance of Butlers spawning on most moons
  • If it gets fixed, I'll add it back ASAP
• The Harbinger can no longer teleport Jesters
• Added the Dubious Candy Corn to some places
• Re-added the Puppeteer's plushie and Jimothy's plushie from CodeRebirth
• Increased the chance the Puppeteer spawns on templatemoon
• Fixed the Puppeteer and Snow Globe not being able to spawn on modded moons
• Added "V73dcfix" and "LethalScrollFix"
• Re-enabled ButteryFixes' Auto collect setting
• Added the Dungeon Key to the SellMyScrap don't sell list
• Updated all mods that needed one
• MonoDetour, MonoDetour BepInEx 5, and WaterAssetRestorer are now full inclusions
• Fixed some stuff in the info custom data chip
• Updated README to mention RandomMoonFX stuff
  Code: 019a8831-3632-660e-c8bf-125452a5206c

also heres a code for base arduous with updated mods:
019a8833-281e-b790-458f-a2fed9e438cd

oh i forgot to do monster skins on facto

and the nutcracker has a test skin applied atm lol

[terse mango]

released some fixes/small changes for AJ and AHU
AJ Code: 019a8adf-2750-85de-ad1a-cfbe5f2a154b
AHU Code: 019a8adf-5397-fbe5-da06-33e34d1f243a

[terse mango]

Arduous Journeys Version 3.3.0

• Completely altered almost every moon's interior chances
• Added the Deep Sewers and Snatcher to places
• Various small rebalances
  Code: 019a9f8d-f978-76f7-37bd-8a46b6ce6a7e

[terse mango]

Fixed Chameleon configs for Manor windows and Mineshaft cave types for AJ.
019aa114-f7e7-3184-0812-c6076bf962b9

[terse mango]

Updates to all 3 Mod Packs

• Added BetterSprayPaint back (AH, AJ, AHU)
• Increased the Blood Moon resurrection time to 30 seconds (AH, AHU)
• Added a mention to the mod pack info custom data chips about the Belt Bag breaking for non-host clients randomly (AH, AJ, AHU)
  • For context, since v73, there's been a bug causing Belt Bags to break randomly for non-host clients. As host, open LethalConfig in the pause menu and find BagConfig in it, there's a button you can press to fix broken Belt Bags.
• Fixed Harbinger being able to teleport the Jester in AH and AHU
• Fixed Vow not having Old Bird skins (AH)
• Fixed Dine not having Nutcracker skins (AH)
• Fixed Aquar not having Hoarding Bug skins (AH)
• Added the mods "NicheTweaks" and "BetterCruiserSync" (AH, AJ, AHU)
• Various balance changes (AJ)
• Fixed Lecaro being unable to generate Rubber Rooms (AJ)
• Fixed Harbinger being able to teleport the Croc Jester (AJ)
• Removed WeatherRegistry (AJ)
• Added new Wesley stuff (AHU)
• Changed templatemoon's stats again (AHU)
• Nerfed Joymiu and Vollen a bit (AHU)
• Fixed party popper weight (AHU)
• Fixed every monster not having any skins anywhere (AHU)
  • Fuck you
  • You suck
  • DIE
• Added skins to the skin list for if the Puppeteer spawns a Nutcracker, Butler, Jester, or Barber at a place they normally would not otherwise (AHU)
• Changed Chameleon configs for the two random route moons that have compatible interiors (AHU)
• Probably other stuff I forgot due to exhaustion from doing the skin list (AHU)

AH Code: 019aec40-74cb-f907-a0a8-ed408ca610a1
AJ Code: 019aec40-53ee-93f9-36c2-ec86161740f8
AHU Code: 019aec40-3744-4663-e3f6-f772754f4aa8

no exaggeration, probably the worst time ive had doing work on these packs

good night

[terse mango]

AHU Update

• Fixed random route moons being unhidden and unlocked by default
  Code: 019aec63-ca20-e344-a101-dd29f578aeaa

i suppose if you prefer the other code with pre-unhidden/unlocked random route moons, go for it

[terse mango]

AHU Version 2.1.2

• Reduced the basics of architecture price (random route moon exclusive scrap)
• Reduced the galvanized square steel weight and made it a usable weapon (ditto from last brackets)
• Reduced the industrial fan count on Kingdom
• Fixed BetterSprayPaint being disabled on my end
  Code: 019af016-7fb8-b91f-f61c-0260ee5808a6

[smoky lotus]

assimilated galvanized steel square

[smoky lotus]

gg

ahu mezuen% ran completed

[sharp linden]

how long did it take to lay out all that scrap

[terse mango]

like 20 minutes

[smoky lotus]

helps that our brains (mostly mine ngl) felt the need to orginize everything better

then purples joined in once it saw how good it looked

[terse mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s87mkipi8mA

[terse mango]

AHU Version 2.2.1

• Updated LLL and removed LLLU
• Changed templatemoon's center monitor info
• Changed Vollen's primary interior
• Fixed Eyeless Dogs not having skins on Experimentation
• Fixed an issue with Chameleon configs
• Fixed outdated README info

Also did the top bullet for all packs.
Also also, from now on I'll send a code for all 3 pack's recent versions alongside whatever update I post here since I don't post very minor updates here usually.
AH: 019b412e-bb7e-fd29-3e3f-df8cc748c9e7
AJ: 019b412e-9dfe-1ce3-42e1-fc4fc35d8a85
AHU: 019b412e-7b5c-21ea-2896-b12cc23de6cc

[terse mango]

how would you guys feel about a hard mode version of AH

[short crane]

😭

April fools is still in a few months

[terse mango]

no im serious

i have ideas, i just dont know if i want commit

i also dont have ideas for everything

[short crane]

Arduest hardestships

[sharp linden]

sounds fun even though im already bad at base arduous

[terse mango]

we dont require "good" people

[short crane]

Im bad at base game... AH is like brutal company to me

I just leave purple to carry me hehe

But yeah it would be cool to see what you would come up with an even harder version

Like, would be interesting to know how much harder can it get

[terse mango]

utril in AJ is probably my hardest edit that isnt just a joke like penumbra

[smoky lotus]

penumbra aint that hard tho

so hard mode AH is just like every room is cake room and thats the only way u can get loot right

[sharp linden]

every moon only has 1 scrap like experimentation

[short crane]

But its just enough to make each quota if you collect it each day

[sharp linden]

heh, if you were actually able to fulfill quotas it wouldnt be hard

each item is worth 1 dollar

[gilded prism]

Hrduous Aardships

Or Applebees Company, whichever you prefer

[strange gorge]

I don’t get why people find inside dogs so hard to counter. Utril is a rather fun moon in AH

I suck at all of the other ones though since I have a skill issue

-# ||Seeing a harder AH could be cool for the people who don’t find it challenging enough though||

[terse mango]

its just
harbinger keeps them at you almost always
only two handeds besides gifts

theres a reason i didnt put any outdoor spawns on it also

average player probably wouldnt get the huge harold gimmick also

so thats less potential profit

[strange gorge]

It is still a fun moon moon though

Inside dogs are really cool and more people need to put them on moons

[terse mango]

wellllllll

they kind of sort of make brackens aggroed

and i think most people would rather have the bracken than dogs

in general dogs can also kill other monsters for you very easily

[strange gorge]

They usually fit best on desert moons so it’s not a common occurrence to have a bracken and a dog on a single moon in most modpacks, but I can see why they aren’t used inside often

[terse mango]

theyd also trigger maneaters

and make hoarding bugs angry

[smoky lotus]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/kwCChAWiwxf__-wx3?invite=cr-MSx0dDEsMTI1MTU0MDY3&v=15

[sharp linden]

shouldve known

[terse mango]

@strange gorge btw out of curiosity
which moon edits have you not played, all 3 packs

[smoky lotus]

i havent played this one moon called templatemoon

we gotta play it a lot to test it i think

[terse mango]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-beast-funny-tweak--gif-10385279207180029279

[strange gorge]

For AH, all of them though i havent been to narcotic and penumbra much

i also think ive only been to espira once or maybe twice before?

for AJ, ive been to quite a few but i dont play it enough to find any of them that memorable so it may as well be none

havent played AHU yet

[terse mango]

Updates

• Added MorvDonalds (AJ)
• Added a rare chance to encounter MorvDonalds origin things at 3 specific moons for each thing that's from it (AJ)
• Nerfed Joymiu's interior power (AHU)
• Fixed the Harbinger being unable to teleport the Polter Bug (AHU)
• Updated stuff (AH, AJ, AHU)
• Fixed mod pack categories (AH, AJ)

Codes:
AH: 019b63c2-e064-22ad-3efb-49c9063f947a
AJ: 019b63c2-bc45-d109-f748-c006fe6ac2a9
AHU: 019b63c2-96d3-2445-e34c-48d0f302fc44

there was definitely nothing else added to AH or AHU

[terse mango]

Updates

• Hi so this changelog is written different cause I was really tired when I released the recent updates for stuff, so I'm writing this to say I completely forgot to add the bullet point I added the Shisha to this mod pack lol. Also fixed TestAccountFixes being not included and made the Shisha's Unko 0 LBS ok that's all bye and sorry (AH, AHU)

Codes:
AH: 019b666c-d869-cfa7-991b-6afae3b4a98c
AHU: 019b666d-007f-24fe-48be-7ba430ad6e9f

[terse mango]

thank you, all that are here, for making my packs feel even more special to me than before
actually having the drive to create a spin-off due to how much people enjoyed what i crafted was not something i thought wouldve happen, but it made me realize i do genuinely enjoy doing this stuff and having others experience it, and i couldnt be happier this joy also stems from my favorite videogame ever
thank you, all of you ❤️

[gilded prism]

Glad to make your life just a little better

[terse mango]

random ass question
to anyone here who has read the custom log on embrion, what are your thoughts on it?

[smoky lotus]

as someone who hasnt read the custom log it didnt mention cake room or templatemoon enough

or more accurately dont remember reading it

[terse mango]

kill this guy with eclipsed cake room knives

[smoky lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-disintegrating-emoji-disappearing-meme-21st-century-gif-24891417

[terse mango]

Updates

• Changed stuff in ScienceBird Tweaks (AH, AJ, AHU)
• Fixed one of the "A modded monster" splash texts still saying "The modded monster" (as if there's only one when there isn't) (AH)
• Moved the past changelogs into a pastebin archive because it was genuinely too much lol; link here: https://pastebin.com/qnFSrh6S (AH)
• Added MisideItems (AHU)
  • Only a few will spawn as usual
  • Changed weight (in game being held) of some of them
  • Kept in two ship decors also
• Changed a splash text (AHU)

god damn it

betterspraypaint in AHU

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/879230371579961394/1165371960260317235/ripslime.gif

god fuck im actually braindead

do not keep openbodycams in AHU (unless you really want to), its unconfigured and is another of the unrequired dependencies for it

i have had some moments of worry a majority of people dont listen to/read the various things i have in place for AHU about unrequired shit
i hope most do though
especially due to templatemoon (literally ripping hair out)

its actually not even because just "i dont want you to have these other moons at all"
its mostly because the pizza slice's default spawn weight is fucking 90 on all moons, and since its value range is like 170 - 220 or some shit, unconfigured moons just thrown in are largely busted due to it

[terse mango]

OK
just uploaded a patch to fix the README of AHU (and betterspraypaint being off again fuck!!!!!!!!!!!), also fixed some old stuff from AH's README that i forgot about

heres the codes for latest versions
AH: 019b9e3c-3261-cf33-f4ad-cb27c738cf52
AJ: 019b9e3d-74b0-ef50-3463-e66f71ec0bdd
AHU: 019b9e3d-4e37-2514-ff77-3c91f72d6c6a

[maiden berry]

hi im new

what is the diffrence between those versions ?

AHU is hybrid of the AH and AJ ?

[smoky lotus]

AH is the base modpack AJ is the modpack that only has wesley's content and AHU is a more silly pack with unique moons but less care for immersion

[maiden berry]

What modpack is better ??

[sharp linden]

Start out with AH definitely

Assuming you havent played any of the 3 packs yet

[maiden berry]

i played before cozy jeurney and condemed company

[short crane]

Play AH!!

[maiden berry]

ok

[sharp linden]

I don't know much about those packs but i can be fairly sure the arduous packs will be much different, every moon is remixed and has special gimmicks so it's quite unique

[maiden berry]

AH looks cool

how much moons AH adds ???

7 ?

[sharp linden]

Thunderstore page says it adds 6

[maiden berry]

i count 7 ???

bozoros utrll espira aquar narconic quasara and thallasic

[sharp linden]

i just checked myself, including hidden moons it's 10

[short crane]

narcotic is a new one so might be an old description :3

[short crane]

or that blehh

[maiden berry]

bro just 7 Secrets is just secrets

anyway anyone else not like wesleys moons ???

[short crane]

i love wesleys moons

my favorite moons and mod

[short crane]

but they are moons

its like artifice

do you not count artifice as a moon because its hidden?

[maiden berry]

i dont count hidden moons as moons . i see those a little diffrent

[short crane]

oh well ok then

7 moons it is!

[maiden berry]

ok

[short crane]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-group-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-11830707118005268792

[smoky lotus]

someone had a skill issue in cake room

[gilded prism]

@smoky lotus what is the best AHU moon for getting slot machine scrap?

I have been told you are the one to ask

[terse mango]

@maiden berry i claim theres 6 modded moons because i want people to discover the 4 hidden ones naturally
obviously i cant prevent people checking the mod list like you though, which is totally fine! i just prefer people found hidden secrets naturally

but people tend to not care about reading or finding data chips, especially for sigurd

and like, yeah even if theyre secret, it doesnt mean they arent actual moons

but penumbra is purely a joke easter egg experience

utril and it are free if experimentation isnt your thing (but penumbra almost 100% wont be either)

[maiden berry]

Wesleys moons not interiors

[terse mango]

his moons are mostly fine, i only really dont like a few

[maiden berry]

me too

iterioris is awesome

they have very good vanilla vibes

but some moons dosent fit to that vibes

[terse mango]

ok this i absolutely disagree with mostly

fractured complex and greenhouse are fine

and i dont really wanna count the expanded interiors and dilapidated manor cause theyre literally mostly skins

[strange gorge]

Wesleys stuff definitely isnt vanilla styled

Doesnt mean that its bad, just the visual style thats chosen

[smoky lotus]

Templatemoon

Purple knows this

[terse mango]

i forgot

i did say that but i wasnt sure

[terse mango]

hello hardship endurers
should the harbinger be able to teleport mask hornets? Y/N

[sharp linden]

no

if zap gun was useful though then yes

[smoky lotus]

what debbi said

unuseful trashcan means they are evil

[terse mango]

(THEY EVIL)

[smoky lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568829905886773258/1077880299536515083/Sequence_01_1.gif

[strange gorge]

Hell no

Mask hornets can rot in hell

[azure swift]

Realistically no, but I'd be kinda funny X3

[terse mango]

Updates

• Balance changes to the Harbinger (AH, AJ, AHU)
  • Mask Hornets are now blacklisted from being teleported
  • Changed the range of time the Harbinger can teleport to a player
  • Increased the time until a monster is teleported to 20 seconds
  • Decreased how fast the Harbinger finishes teleporting a monster a bit
• Fixed some typos I didn't notice in the changelog lol (AJ)
• Added some previously unused scraps to all moons added to Ultimatum specifically (AHU)
• Added some anti-idiot measures (shoutout to LLL's recent update!) (AHU)
• Updated README stuff (AHU)

Codes:
AH: 019bb28b-1138-2f2c-2dca-03c39a2a9ff7
AJ: 019bb28a-f7e7-6f86-6ef5-5996aeb26e7b
AHU: 019bb28a-db9a-48e0-1b08-c3f8a19154ce

AHU ate so fucking good with LLL's recent addition holy shit dude

[terse mango]

AHU Update

• Added the mod "ExtendedRandomMoons"
  • Type "random route" (or just "ran") in the terminal to use it
  • Keep in mind it doesn't spend your credits, if you care even
• Unlocked all the moons normally random route exclusive (meaning you can now go to them without just random routing if you know their names)
• Updated Sniper's Moons
• Removed the Void-Head from Embrion (wtf was i thinking)
• Removed outdoor Joymiu spawns
• Updated README

Code:
019bcaba-551b-7bc5-9c05-b14afd957ee8

[terse mango]

fixed lerzain being locked still in AHU
019bd201-19c2-4004-ec90-d9180b172a10

[terse mango]

Updates

• Added UsefulZapGun back (AH, AJ, AHU)
  • Mannequins can now be blown up btw (AJ, AHU)
• Reduced the chainsaw weight to 14 LBS (AJ)
• Fixed Mod Pack Info log stuff (AH, AJ, AHU)
• Updated README (AH, AJ, AHU)

Codes:
AH: 019bec94-9c12-77d7-eb1a-acff00ad4a71
AJ: 019bec94-82f7-145d-d1e0-8480c49d0255
AHU: 019bec94-b9f4-d16d-b650-6af4b29d96f4

the best fucking update to these packs of all time

[hidden plinth]

oh boy

useful zap gun fix

[gilded prism]

We’re so back

[warm badger]

fire

[strange gorge]

Barbers and butlers are actually bearable again

[terse mango]

just to note

the mannequins from decrepit store are really fucking stupid to target with the zap gun

the headless one is completely fine

but the other two are fucked up probably because wesley made them part of the default layer

or something like that

im not 100% sure

but its the same reason they move sometimes even when youre looking at them

that being said, its still possible to target the other two mannequins you just kinda have to dance around them as the zap gun is scanning

released a hotfix for 3 mods disabled in AH
new code
019bed12-e397-ff26-e819-d5bb2f598461

[terse mango]

hey guys so
dawnlibs most recent update forces me to swap to lunarconfig
if you want to play one of my packs right now, do not update dawnlib to version 0.7.3+, it will break the entire content configuration thing

[hidden plinth]

"you will use lunarconfig and you will like it" ahh update

[terse mango]

this was imbound at some point

i just wish i got like, at least a week more to not have to do super big work on an update

i blame my skin list suddenly breaking three times and forcing me to have to redo all the skins

now i know you can back it up and i have said backups now

but still why

that just kinda ruined my energy to do a big thing like this, and various other small things

but i literally have to now

on the plus side, usualscrap will come back to AH and AHU

[sharp linden]

candy dispensers comin back W

[gilded prism]

Are you gonna retool some AJ moons now that you are not bound to the original Wesley down curves? Etern comes to mind

[terse mango]

nah ill keep etern as an espira copy

i wanted one in AJ anyways

[lunar star]

Out of curiousity, what was it that changed that forces you to swap?

[terse mango]

its related to
Massively rewrote SpawnWeightsPreset class for future maintainability, this is a breaking change with LunarConfig until they update to latest DawnLib (which is soon).

i dont expect you to change anything about it just so centralconfig works alongside it

thats not needed, people should swap to lunar regardless

[lunar star]

Oh I didn't change anything about how it works internally

If you noticed it overriding something then that's just how it's always been

The changes I made allow me to edit code without asking people to update everytime

[terse mango]

it completely killed central working at all as far as i could tell

[lunar star]

Huh

Central config hasn't even known DawnLib exists right?

[terse mango]

yes

[lunar star]

You sure it's not another mod not updated yet? I don't mind taking a log

[terse mango]

i updated dawnlib and it just stopped working

[lunar star]

There is definitely no intent to break central config that update so I'll fix it if need be

[terse mango]

heres what i think is happening
when i tried to check configs for beginning swapping to lunar, central didnt have a single moon or interior option available, and i had to downgrade to 0.7.2 to get those configs again after loading a lobby

so dawnlib is probably changing how all that stuff is loaded in a way central cannot read them as existing

which is why im saying i dont expect you to do a single thing

[lunar star]

I get that but 0.7.3 really only changed DawnLib's internal code on something very specific, I'll take a quick look with CC and DawnLib to see if there's any obvious errors like that

[terse mango]

im gonna push for swapping anyways

afaik im the only person who still uses central at all so like

really no need :P

[lunar star]

lol, fair enough

[hidden plinth]

Except for that one person who forked it specifically for their group

[terse mango]

TRUE

idek why they did that or what the fork does

[gilded prism]

That was a surprise to see

Old habits die hard I guess

[gilded prism]

Catalyst 🔛🔝

I used to like Seichi more than Bozoros but I have really come around to the latter’s chaotic energy. I like AH’s tight balancing, but it’s not LC without some tomfoolery

[sharp linden]

I voted espira and seichi because they're the most memorable and stand-out moons to me compared to the others. I only ever played espira the one session with you months ago and i still remember what it was like, and seichi is cool enough with the barrage of masked and oni (i initially chose penumbra for that list because it's penumbra, but then i remembered what seichi was).

I think part of me just choosing what was most memorable to me has to do with the fact that i really don't play the base versions of most of the moons, so it can be hard to know exactly how much is changed (even though each clearly have drastic edits and are cool)

[hidden plinth]

wait does aquar still work for you

[terse mango]

yes???

[hidden plinth]

last i tried it was either the whole thing was broke or the water was nonexistent

[terse mango]

the water is still there its just black

[hidden plinth]

man

awenn come home

[strange gorge]

I chose espira because thumper + masked are a fun combo

It also has a near 1:1 journeys equivalent which I’m a fan of for the same reason

And Seichi is a very pretty moon. Makes it instantly better than the others.

[gilded prism]

You all like killing people with shovels too much

[strange gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-stop-sign-icarly-gif-15077519362864747036

[gilded prism]

https://tenor.com/view/true-patrick-spongebob-truth-nuke-gif-15777863855591434629

[maiden berry]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-de-niro-finger-wag-you-point-smile-gif-17331927

[terse mango]

Update on the life of my mod packs:
My personal laziness kicked in again lmao
I have the capability to get everything stablized for recent API updates and LunarConfig in probably around 6 hours of a day, I've just been procrastinating, and I apologize.

Additionally, depending on how feasibly doable it is, I may potentially make a mod pack for R.E.P.O, as I've gotten more into the game during my procrastination. This is not a guarantee because I spent some time digging through all of the mods of R.E.P.O, and a lot of them are either immersion breaking nonsense or just not good at all/not functional at all (I genuinely don't think any good modded monsters exist besides most of Wesley's) and it's currently a lot harder to make a mod pack that would standout for that game compared to Lethal Company, plus I imagine not a ton of people are particularly interested in modded R.E.P.O if it's been fairly lacking in high effort projects like Wesley's stuff.

So yeah, again, I'm sorry I kind of just suck with properly spending time for stuff like this. I know it's not my life, but I still have high care for my mod packs, and I just want people to know that.

[terse mango]

OK
yeah, i did it lol
its fairly minimalistic, but i hope people enjoy maybe question mark
https://thunderstore.io/c/repo/p/purpletheproto/RealityExtremelyPeculiarandObtuse/

[short crane]

Heyy congrats on the release!! :3

The icon is so trippy

Im guessing you didnt add wesleys bunker because its from another IP right?

[terse mango]

is it actually what

(i dont like redfield anyways tbch)

[short crane]

Wesleys trials

Yes its from very good game AMNESIA: The Bunker :3

Prob the scariest game ive played

[strange gorge]

peam

trying this later :>

[obsidian valve]

How have I not chatted here before wh-

[sharp linden]

hello ArduousFedora Productions

[obsidian valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/833885075573309452/1482882970388926484/caption.gif

[sharp linden]

AH challenge moon is experimentation... that's 28 fuckn gold bars and a zeddy

[gilded prism]

Bro think he’s part of the team

[obsidian valve]

https://tenor.com/view/fard-lego-gif-17123896070975755386

[tender wagon]

Arduous hardships dead fr fr on god on god

(We desire the hardships)

[gilded prism]

Lunar Config was too powerful

[obsidian valve]

Oh you just wait

[hidden plinth]

whens harduous aardships coming backl

[terse mango]

hell no

[hidden plinth]

[sharp linden]

[tender wagon]

Dead hardships

[obsidian valve]

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-21842344

[hidden plinth]

i'm really stretching with this one

[feral prism]

how's tycho bro

[obsidian valve]

Oh wait since Purples gone

this thread'll die

[feral prism]

https://giphy.com/gifs/worldweatherru-brazil-gEYaB9WeepbBcj1LJs

[strange gorge]

Will AH (or any of the modpacks) be updated for v80?

[obsidian valve]

Probably?

we won’t know cuz Purple is gone

Unless somebody dms him about it I dunno

[tender wagon]

eventually I guess

I honestly have no idea either

[strange gorge]

Purple left??

[obsidian valve]

He got booted

[gilded prism]

He really did not want to port from CC to Lunar, maybe one day he will get the motivation

[hidden plinth]

He's dead and I killed him

[short crane]

Good

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kill-cat-kill-gif-20949162

[strange gorge]

Doesn’t Lunar have an option to copy spawn weights over from other mods?

Was it other features he wanted?

[short crane]

nope not any more

that was before dawnlib port

[gilded prism]

Yeah that ship has sailed with the DawnLib port

He waited too long

[warm badger]

i mean they can downgrade to pre-DL port and then try it no?

[lunar star]

I think so

[short crane]

would be kinda crazy

idk how worth it would be hmmm

but i guess it could be done

[gilded prism]

He could but I’m not sure how much effort it saves, especially since the port feature was not entirely reliable

[runic laurel]

😔

[obsidian valve]

where did this pack go?

[sharp linden]

i'm sure it'll come back some day

[short crane]

To the void

[hidden plinth]

damn

entire thing deleted?

thats crazy

idr the last version before it was nuked but i have a profile with it

[sharp linden]

wait I didn't realize it was actually removed from TS what the hell

I thought purple just got banned from lcmd for whatever but the modpacks too???

[hidden plinth]

Yeah like what

[runic laurel]

it got deleted too?

wow

[warm badger]

that's mad strange but ig it makes sense

[lunar star]

Just to clarify, he asked for this

He wants to start ground up

[hidden plinth]

that makes more sense

def understandable

[strange gorge]

when are you going to do this with CodeRebirth

and DawnLib

[lunar star]

you wish

[warm badger]

can we delete all mods that don't use exclusively lcapi

they barely work an yway

[short crane]

Can we delete all mods, i dont like them anyways

Deprecating is easier than deleting

[lunar star]

you dont like my mods? 🥺

[smoky lotus]

he did that

[sharp linden]

i saw from what xu said

also why'd i get a phantom ping here

[smoky lotus]

it was me batman

i replied to the wrong msg

so i didnt ping on 2nd one

[plain dawn]

Might be a dumb question, but are Wesley’s moons in this mod pack?

The link to arduous journeys is down so I wasn’t sure

Second silly question, how bad would adding only lethal casino be

[hidden plinth]

Journeys was built around wesleys moons

But mainly the stuff before conquer

[sharp linden]

lethalcasino doesn't work in the arduous packs

[obsidian valve]

Purple is coming back to this pack

[plain dawn]

Yep that's why I'm looking for it

[hidden plinth]

its taken down for now cus the developer is redoing it i think

u can probably find a profile code if u scroll up

[smoky lotus]

AJ prob will be abandoned with v80

[short crane]

Arduous

[sharp linden]

it'll come back v90 trust

[feral prism]

https://tenor.com/view/someone-cooked-here-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-579099896864746534

[sharp linden]

oh btw it is back on thunderstore

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ProfoundlyPurple/ArduousHardships/

[short crane]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-spore-dance-gif-14387965675849981372

[hidden plinth]

Wonderful

[brisk cargo]

is there a hotkey to slowly go down the log, I might be the dumbest person ever but using the scroll wheel skips parts of the log so im struggling to read it

or is it almost identical to the one in the mod description but without the "this is long" preface

[sharp linden]

the scroll wheel just behaves really weirdly in the terminal, especially in a long page like that