Map Improvements [BETA]

[forest plank]

Updated GitHub so you can review the code

[timid grove]

thank you so much for including the flat odds ooption!!!

holy shit

[forest plank]

Still needs some work because certain improvements change based on the order, so you're technically missing out on them but I'll just add some randomization to fix that

The appearance rate will remain the same

[forest plank]

Help I need ideas for March Improvements because I can't just add more Fire Exits

I was maybe thinking of making the fire exit facilities bigger so you can find them easier

And maybe adding a cabin to hide from giants like Rend/Adamance

[proven robin]

I like this idea

[timid grove]

dry up the main lake and add a fire exit there? maybe?

[timid grove]

maybe, feel like you could do more than that but im not sure what

6 fire exit march would go cray cray...

dry up every lake, put a fire exit and a ladder in each

||this is a joke||

[forest plank]

I was thinking of adding another Fire Exit in the back right corner across the lake there

And the cabin would also add more environmental detailing, like more quicksand, trees, etc

I just need actual ideas for what should be improved from you guys

I feel that March & Rend are pretty much perfectly fine as is

[timid grove]

perhaps

[timid grove]

I'm the ultimate march supporter I can't think of a way to make it better

[forest plank]

Guess it'll be like Assurance then

Assurance, March & Rend are the perfect moons

[timid grove]

I think a good way to mix up rend is adding more trenches and ravines in the middle of the main path

[timid grove]

layout wise yeah

they lack sauce in the stats department imo

[forest plank]

I have ideas for Rend but its last in line

Titan will be a doozy, especially with Rebalanced already having laid claim to it

I'll do small improvements like I did with Assurance

Cabin & environment, Fire Exit, Facilities

[timid grove]

I have a goofy idea for titan lol

before > after

LMAO

[forest plank]

I will say I thought about effectively removing all the snow and replacing the whole environment with just an enormous facility

[timid grove]

THAT WOULD BE SICK

[forest plank]

It would also destroy anyone's computer on landing lol

Titan already does that, and I'd just be adding fuel to that laptop fire

[timid grove]

this was my first thought when looking at a topdown view of March

just a vow bridge across there with another bunker entrance, probably some more rock props n stuff

I like the idea of adding a cabin like you said, but I feel like there could be more than one to make use of the incredible amount of playable area march has

[forest plank]

Yeah that's what I was talking about with this

[timid grove]

ooo gotcha gotcha

ye I think that'd be an alright change

[forest plank]

Rebalanced adds/moves a fire exit here iirc

[timid grove]

yeah it moves the one left of the ship to that location

which I really dislike, so I usually just disable that change

[forest plank]

Its too close to main tbh

But I have to keep that in mind when making mine

[hollow river]

I just realized there aren't titan improvements

But at the same time what is there to change

[forest plank]

more fire exits according to you guys

[hollow river]

Yeah but rebalanced moons does that

I don't really see anything else that can be changed with it

Aside from like making it run better or something

[forest plank]

That's why it's 2nd to last on the list

If anything I'll make it run worse

[hollow river]

Like loading times or fps

[forest plank]

Loading, because I run the code when loading level

[hollow river]

Makes sense

[timid grove]

I don't especially love the idea of more fire exits IF they're all close to eachother

[hollow river]

The two vanilla maps that run the worst for me rn is titan (rebalanced scene) and artifice (MI + rebalanced)

I don't think the artifice lag would be caused by you? Since it seems to me like it should only run its code once

[forest plank]

Titan is just that way because of the dungeon size

I'm definitely contributing to the lag

[timid grove]

also isn't the facility variation assigned to it super unoptimized?

I remember hearing that a long ass time ago

[hollow river]

I thought it just used normal facility, does it use level1flowextralarge?

[timid grove]

thought it did

[hollow river]

I wonder if I could just set that variant to never spawn in LLL and only allow standard facility

[tribal portal]

rlly? its further away than the one in the ditch

[forest plank]

It's along the same path

[tribal portal]

its right here

i kinda wanna move it though

i just dont rlly like where it is normally it feels weird

[forest plank]

If you put it anywhere else besides where I was gonna put mine you'd really have to move another as well

Or you'd have to modify the terrain around where you put it

[tribal portal]

i was sadly planning on putting it in that bottom left area yeah but i guess i cant do that now

I might just move it back

[forest plank]

Maybe modify the terrain to make a better spot for it?

[tribal portal]

my main issue is that its too close to the ship now

[tribal portal]

maybe but ugh its just gonna look really ugly with the current splatmap and manually modifying those is a goddamn pain

[forest plank]

Why don't you like the fire exit location?

[tribal portal]

the vanilla one?

[forest plank]

yeah yeah the one in the hole

[tribal portal]

i just thought it would be more interesting to have the 3 exits be a triangle away from each other

it would create mor interesting travel around the map

my thought process was this

to me it felt less awkward than this

and it is cool but yeah its just too close to the ship

but if it doesn't play well then i will probably just move it back to its vanilla spot

bc its not that i dont like the location

its a healthy distance from the ship and i like the pit gimmick

[forest plank]

I think this is the thought process of vanilla

[tribal portal]

yeah i just thought it would be cool to essentially have waypoints all around the map

(fire exits love to generate next to each other)

[forest plank]

Yeah that's my thoughts with the fire across the gap

makes a pentagon

[tribal portal]

well

this probably wont matter soon anyways

so theres no point in me trying to switch things up ig

im just gonna move it back

[forest plank]

Probably best to just wait and see

[stuck oracle]

Maybe having more or less density in trees? One thing that always kinda bothered me in March is how perfect it felt for the Cruiser, but then you have to crash into a dozen trees to reach Main, and that eats into its health

Less tree density would mean less line of sight breaks for giants though, so idk

[forest plank]

March but I remove all the trees

Deforestation

[hollow river]

march but we're building an interstate highway

[stuck oracle]

That does make me think if there's no trees it could have more hills

but then it'd become like a snowless dine lol

[tribal portal]

trees barely damage the car idk why people complain abt that so much

[hollow river]

prob momentum loss

[tribal portal]

ig yea

its satisfying to me to hit trees though lol

im pretty sure it also just has a chance to just not damage the car at all (?) so not every tree eats into your health

[hollow river]

ig in my experience on maps like rend there isnt a lot of space to go generally, and the cruiser ends up being slower than just walking to main cus of the trees

[tribal portal]

oh its rlly bad on rend main yea

the trip to fire is ez though

also rend is a bit better if you learn to drive the cruiser to the left of the cabin

and go down that other path that doesnt have the light poles

[forest plank]

That reminds me I need to make a mod to make the vanilla snowmen destructible

[tribal portal]

its a bit tricky to get used to though bc theres limited visibility

[tribal portal]

pls

[hollow river]

the one time i tried it the truck got stuck in between two hills, i sdhould try it again

[forest plank]

I had to make a custom one for COO so I can just port the code over

Idk if anyone has but you can destroy the snowmen that I made

It's annoying because the vanilla method only accounted for trees so it's entirely fixed

Oh and the lamps are destructible too

Once I put out the March update someone needs to remind me to make that mod otherwise I'll forget

[stuck oracle]

I'll be honest, I was speaking on behalf of my friends who love driving the cruiser, I assumed they knew it better than me

They always crash into that water hole in March, so maybe they just need to learn to drive better lol

[tribal portal]

i will say

it is possible to drive to main on march without hitting any trees if you just go right

its just kinda tricky and takes practice

oh not that i disagree with you tho; i agree, tree density variation would be a really cool feature

[stuck oracle]

I can give it some practice myself, though they're pretty stubborn (they always forget to bring in shovels and regret it every time they encounter a thumper (not that it matters since they struggle to kill thumpers anyway))

Though yeah, beyond the cruiser stuff, some minor foliage variation like that would be neat, along with some terrain changes, assuming it encourages different pathing around the map

[forest plank]

Where do we want said cabin on March?

[timid grove]

like I said I think multiple would work best, but if I had to pick a spot it could be wherever dopa moved the fire exit last time? that area is a little empty

[forest plank]

I hate interior design

Woe upon thee for requesting multiple cabins

[timid grove]

LOL

maybe you could take some of the furniture from the ship for deco?

[forest plank]

It's really just trying to make the same interior feel unique multiple times

I am reusing assets as best I can to keep the bundle as small as I can

[timid grove]

hmm... gotcha

[forest plank]

I could but what would that accomplish?

[timid grove]

extra hiding maybe, but barring bhawks its kinda the same as just hiding behind it

[forest plank]

I'll look into it, but no promises

[tribal portal]

dont do it on my scene tho

i spawn a key plus a random scrap item in there

[forest plank]

You spawn the key inside?

[tribal portal]

yeah its on a shelf

and a random tabletop scrap spawns on the stool

i did that a while ago and i dont think anyone noticed lol

[forest plank]

fun

[timid grove]

nobody goes in there bro 😭 it's sad

wish it mattered more in gameplay but it's also usually just like

swarmed by bhawks LOL

[forest plank]

I always just avoid the pit

[timid grove]

love how both artifice and adamance have little shacks but god the one on adamance being locked all the time really doesn't help its usability

[tribal portal]

i could put spawn blockers around the cabin so nests dont spawn there

but im leaving the door locked cuz its funny

[timid grove]

maybe if it getting unlocked got saved to the save file and then on subsequent landings it'd be unlocked by default it'd be used more

[tribal portal]

ill just rename the door so spooky cant unlock it

xd

[tribal portal]

would be easier than another if check

tbh

[forest plank]

I probably wasn't gonna anyways because I'd have to make a whole new function to just unlock doors & I have higher priority items on my to do list

Maybe when I get around to figuring out networking the doors on exp but that's hard and I'm lazy

[forest plank]

@tribal portal I assume you remove the disabled ladders on March? Under Environment/Interactables

[tribal portal]

yeah probably

im pretty sure i did

ill check

[forest plank]

It looks like you left them

[tribal portal]

ah

ok

[forest plank]

Trying to get an idea of what I can use

[tribal portal]

yeah they're still there

well

if you need them i can leave them there i suppose

[forest plank]

Saves me having to make my own

[forest plank]

Damn March is so foggy you can barely see any of the cool changes I make

[forest plank]

I do not need them I will just steal the ship's instead

[chilly forge]

My BALLS itch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235788197628215318/1338034984178421820/6hlwfz8yrbpb1.gif

[forest plank]

That's nice Narpy

[chilly forge]

You;re wkecome

[timid grove]

that's my fucking joke

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-fushigi-simpleflips-fushigi-ball-scary-luigi-gif-5438982742324119737

[forest plank]

Last call for ideas for March

[forest plank]

A: Each entrance has a 'unique' & larger building
B: 3 Cabins, quicksand signs, more quicksand, paths to encourage/lead players around
C: New fire exit across the lake in the back right of the map, new environmental detailing to make March unique

Personally I don't like March and while the improvements are growing on me I don't really care for them

It's too foggy to see any of the cool changes without walking right up to them

[timid grove]

a sounds so cool

[timid grove]

yeah gotcha, doesn't help that it's quite a big moon

[forest plank]

Put it on top of Rebalanced's water tower

[timid grove]

ehh idk

[forest plank]

Working with the ship's ladders got me like Environment/MapPropsContainer/March_A(Clone)/FireB/LadderNest/LadderTrigger(Clone)/TopPos

[forest plank]

Woe unto Rebalanced for constantly making little changes and me thusly having to adjust

Also you should update the list of changes on the modpage dopa

Also woe unto Blizzard Artifice

[timid grove]

I feel like less updates more changes could be better but who am I to judge I guess LOL

[hollow river]

whats with artifice blizzard

[forest plank]

Mod to make Artifice a snow moon

[hollow river]

no i know

why the woe

[forest plank]

I have to account for it

Change the hills to snow & trees to snow

[hollow river]

the guy who hasn't updated his mod in 6 months:

[hollow river]

oh yeah

i saw that when you changed the artifice B's hill, the hill didn't match the snow

so i just got rid of it

[forest plank]

Compatibility is coming this update

[timid grove]

why do you think im saying it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071779662537183262/1352383353604804729/NNovasaur_-_1902728959759995176.gif

also why I said "who am I to judge" LOL

im mainly not releasing updates cuz the two bugs people absolutely hate about 0.1.3. have not been fixed yet

[hollow river]

what are they

[timid grove]

global prototax sound and global aloe fear effect (2nd one's been fixed)

and also host only leaf boy sounds

and also global duck sounds (that's been fixed)

[hollow river]

i thought global prototax sounds were easy to fix

[timid grove]

there's duplicate heads caused by the visor hud showing u when you're getting healed

[chilly forge]

Wtf the prototax hasn't been fixed?

I thought that was an easy one

[timid grove]

it needs a rewrite

like i've told you like 4 or 5 times 😭

[chilly forge]

Oh I thought it was already rewritten what

[timid grove]

i would've released if it was

[timid grove]

im ditching the rewrite momentarily just to get something out at this point

[chilly forge]

Ough

[timid grove]

i quite literally only need a few bug fixes

[chilly forge]

Ngl I don't mind waiting longer if it means to not deal with the prototax global bug anymore

[timid grove]

and when those are done it'll be out, but I don't doubt that it's been really hard to work with code from enemies that were passed around 2 to 3 times before

[chilly forge]

Apparently v70 might come out tomorrow

soo

TulipDread

[timid grove]

ah lovely

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995478513039704225/1320689562279874623/bartd.gif

rip bioviversity

[chilly forge]

Can't wait for the modpack I've been working a year on to break!

All that time learning how LC ticks gone to waste

Hopefully it isn't that bad though

[timid grove]

watch it be a single furniture piece

and like, a bugfix

my ideal update 🥰

[forest plank]

I will explode if v70 completely changes March

[hollow river]

watch v70 drop a new moon and completely break level loader again

[timid grove]

if v70 changes march i'd never forgive zeekers 😔

[chilly forge]

MARCH AND ADAMANCE REWORK BREAKING MI AND RM OORAH 🤑

[hollow river]

honestly i don't see a reason to rework adamance

[chilly forge]

This is unconfirtmed btw

Nova just told me that it might happen (He has access to the Patreon channel in Zeekcord)

[hollow river]

aside from maybe fixing the bridge not having offmesh links setup correctly

[timid grove]

yeah it literally just came out

[chilly forge]

It's aids to play if you don't do the tech

[timid grove]

that'd be a good change

[chilly forge]

The canyon is VERY casual unfriendly

[hollow river]

its not that bad

[timid grove]

let's hope he doesn't rework offense, dine and embrion then

[hollow river]

i think all the v50 moons are safe tbh

[chilly forge]

Offense maybe, Dine needs love, and Embrion is a joke so Idrc

[hollow river]

embrion won't be changed cus it's supposed to be bad

[chilly forge]

Rend needs a heavy nerf 💔

[hollow river]

i also don't think dine needs anything this time around its already been redone twice

[chilly forge]

Titan and Artifice r good where they at

[hollow river]

just a giant nerf on it would be good enough

[chilly forge]

Just because it's been updated recently doesn't take away the fact it's dogshit and unreliable

[timid grove]

I don't think ANY moons need reworks they're all PERFECT as they are!!!!

[chilly forge]

Bread in spirit?

[hollow river]

i guess i would like if main was put back where its supposed to be

[timid grove]

dine only needs its main to be slightly prettier imo (add a light and FIX THE FUCKING DOOR BEING SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT AND NOT ACTUALLY AGAINST THE WALL FUCK)

[hollow river]

instead of being where fire exit is

[chilly forge]

Same thing with Artifice's fire exit loll

The Roblox dev bleeds through Lethal Company

[timid grove]

at this point idrc about dine's layout being weird like that

i've not... grown to love it? but trying to fix it or roll back a change would be like putting make-up on a frog

[forest plank]

I swear if Dine completely changes again and then we have v49, v50, v69, & v70 Dines and I have to account for all of them

[hollow river]

at that point do what whitespike does

use x version for v49, use y version for v50, use z version for v60, etc

i don't see a reason for you to have to support all the legacy designs for current version

[timid grove]

what do you mean

[forest plank]

I'd support for mods like TonightWeDine that add them back in

[hollow river]

whitespike does this with lgu where the last version that was developed for a specific game version is mentioned in the readme to download for that version

like this

[timid grove]

ahh cool!

[tribal portal]

bro i did nothing...

and ye ill udpate the readme soon

[forest plank]

I swear you're changing little things just to spite me specifically and for no other reason

Joking of course

I'll notice something wrong, fix it, and then suddenly a new issue arises that was not there before

[tribal portal]

but i didnt change anything

i just made the water smaller on march

[forest plank]

I know but like who else is moving the distant hills on Artifice so that my water clips out?

[tribal portal]

i did that like

several months ago

bc you could go under the map

i did to embrion too, if you recall

[forest plank]

And I fixed it an update or two ago but suddenly there's a new gap

Going insane

[tribal portal]

I promise you I did not change anything on artifice

you can like

download an older version and check, lol

the only thing i kind of changed recently was adding the red fire exit lights to the outside of all(?) moons

but you accounting for that is more of a consistency thing and not a fix

thesee specifically

[forest plank]

I noticed and I gotta go through and check for those too

And March navigation

[tribal portal]

well u dont Have to

[forest plank]

Ok March navigation is good so you don't have to do anything on your end (for now)

[tribal portal]

do you want me to tag the boundswalls i added just in case

bc idid add a lot

[forest plank]

I kept March simple all I needed was the area across the lake

Everything else is in bounds

I do have the scenes in my project for testing so unless you drastically revamp them I'm good

[tribal portal]

no point

[forest plank]

As long as Zeekers doesn't release v70 tomorrow I'll be good to release the update

[tribal portal]

srry i meant

no point in me revamping stuff

hehe

[forest plank]

Yeah I just want to get this out before March ends

Then next update can fix v70 issues, because I'm sure there will be loads

[hollow river]

would be awesome if that isn't the case for once

[forest plank]

System-wise everything should function; Design-wise will be a different story

hopefully nothing too drastic but who can say

Watch v70 introduce a system identical to mine for randomizing the exteriors lol

Or the design changes just be rebalanced moons

[tribal portal]

i dont think zeek would add as many fire exits as i am xD at the very least

[forest plank]

I thought I was done but I have to get screenshots I hate this shit

This has actually made me hate March

I guess I should start figuring out the snowman mod too

[tribal portal]

tell me abt it i had to do this stupid shit bc it turns out the lake needs a navmesh or shit cant fall off the bridge when it breaks

they're all spawn blockers lol

[forest plank]

Oh guess I should remove my nav obs then

I need to space out working on this mod

[tribal portal]

maybe you should take a break

im probly moving on to interior stuff

for a bit

[forest plank]

I just want to play Xenoblade lol

I will make a new project for the snowman breaking mod, and maybe I'll finally publish masked ragdolls, but I should prbably work on that more

actually make them synced or something

Though I suppose player ragdolls aren't

[tribal portal]

ragdolls in general arent synced

right

[forest plank]

I've just been putting it off because I do not want to make 40 gifs of masked dying

I am surprised there's not a mod out there already that makes the masked ragdoll

I guess the same could be said about the snowman breaking too

If people have ideas for Titan I'll be working on that next

Unless v70 comes out then I'll have to make an update to fix whatever breaks

[tribal portal]

wouldnt it be hard

i honestly have no idea how ur doing it

[forest plank]

code's on the github if you want to steal it

idk if the bundle is included

[tribal portal]

wait

you mentioned something abt syncing the ragdolls

would you happen to know how to do that with players :v

its a peeve of mine

is it possible

[forest plank]

players or their ragdolls?

[tribal portal]

their ragdolls

[forest plank]

No I don't

If I did I would've synced the ragdolls

[tribal portal]

into my backlog it goes

i srsly need to write down a list of my projects

bc i forget what im doing a lot

[forest plank]

Doesn't help if you think of them while drinking lol

Look the bundle is included lol
https://github.com/Spookybuddy/LC-Mods/tree/main/MaskedRagdoll

[tribal portal]

oh you saw that 😭

look it was One time

[forest plank]

Lol

I keep up with your thread

[tribal portal]

jeez you're doing some grime shit to sync configs here

i mean

at least you dont need a network handler this way

[forest plank]

I just followed a tutorial and use it for all my mods

[tribal portal]

ohhh

im lazy and just do rpcs to sync configs, lol

[forest plank]

This has been my first foray into modding

Idk anything

[tribal portal]

god im probably going to have to omit this next patch

[tribal portal]

tbf same kinda, i was a java coder and did mc mods before this so its all basically new stuff to me

[forest plank]

Nah, just make v1.9.5 and double down

Once I'm done with Map Improvements (which will be never because zeekers will keep adding/changing the maps) I'll probably tone down my modding activities

Unless there's some new thing that inspires me in the update

[hollow river]

wdym making masked ragdoll

[forest plank]

when masked die its a ragdoll instead of the fixed animation

like players

[hollow river]

i think NightOfTheLivingMimic can do that

when you kill masked it drops the mimicked player's body

which is a ragdoll

i'd probably be using that if it didn't have twitch chat api as a hard dependency

[forest plank]

My mod is focused on just making them ragdoll not bring them to life

[hollow river]

gotcha

[forest plank]

Here's what I mean

It also features a death for every way, which is why I need 40 gifs

My personal favorite is the spike trap, but worm is also hilarious

[timid grove]

rip...

[timid grove]

kite was working on a mod that makes maskeds more player-like

maybe thats in the features?

[barren bobcat]

Yeah there is

[barren bobcat]

That mod is actually done and works great in singleplayer

But I had some "syncing" issues in multiplayer

I can publish it my github profile later if someone needs

[timid grove]

ahh dang

[proven robin]

there was, but it's actually deprecated cuz the modder abandoned it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Synaxin/Zombies/
My bad, it is not deprecated, but it's abandoned iirc

It makes the "masked" players ragdoll their bodies to recover it

it also has other features, but it was the most related one you've said :]

[forest plank]

Every time I upload an update I always worry that I did it wrong lol

[hollow river]

taking the march deadline pretty closely here lol

[forest plank]

Is there a ping I can do for everyone in this post only or is that not a thing? I'd like to @ here or something to notify of update

[forest plank]

I'm EST so it's only 9pm

[hollow river]

i'm more talking about it being put out on the 31st

[forest plank]

I planned to release it today

I did crunch a bit to get it in time but it's also small changes so not terrible

It'll be back to my usual 2 week update style after this

Enjoy looking at the ass screenshots you can't make out anything lol

And enjoy the March update for March in March

[timid grove]

don't think so no, which is kinda sad

[hollow river]

alright so

i tried out the march improvements just now, and got the issue with fire exits cus of the new one

i went in through the new exit and then it stopped me from leaving out the same door

and said the entrance was blocked

[forest plank]

Not anything I did or can do about that unfortunately

Just vanilla issues/issues with mod packs

[hollow river]

yeah

didn't that fix get merged into butteryfixes or something

[fleet trail]

It did

[timid grove]

yep

you can also use the standalone

[hollow river]

ok

[timid grove]

though it's deprecated since that fix was merged

[hollow river]

so i have butteryfixes

and it still happened

[timid grove]

wait wait ok so

[hollow river]

is the fix not a 100% reliable thing

[timid grove]

the issue you're having is entrances are blocked?

[short quartz]

You forgot Slayer's mod

[proven robin]

Slayer?

[short quartz]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/slayer6409/NightOfTheLivingMimic/ it does it and it's actively supported

Same dev as Emergency Dice Updated

[timid grove]

someone mentioned that higher up in the chat yes

[hollow river]

the new fire exit on march C can be entered like normal but denies exiting through it

[short quartz]

I saw Zombies get mentioned but Zombies always had issues

[hollow river]

i got inside just fine

but trying to leave it said the entrance was blocked

[timid grove]

so when you try and get out it says the fire exit is blocked?

[proven robin]

Cool! I wanted to try it, but their dependencies prevent me to do it :']

[hollow river]

yes

[timid grove]

ok so that's not the issue that butteryfixes fixes

the issue it fixes is leaving through a different fire exit

[hollow river]

oh right butterys fixes it applying 2 fire exits to the same location right

[timid grove]

you go into fire exit 1 and when you come out that same fire exit you're at fire exit 2

[short quartz]

probably not registered properly lol

[timid grove]

kinda yeah

[short quartz]

it would probably be the reverse of the issue that Sector Alpha has, the entrance teleport isn't networked for leaving

[hollow river]

hold on

it spawned the facility so i think it mightve spawned the Level1Flow3Exits version

which probably doesn't account for another

[short quartz]

Oh probably

March always spawns that one

[forest plank]

This would all be on LLL, I just add the exterior and let it handle it

[hollow river]

i deleted the spawn weights for that in LLL config but forgot to enable content config

[short quartz]

It's exclusive to March and imo easily the worst generation for it

[short quartz]

Nah probably Vanilla cus the version of Facility March uses is different

[hollow river]

i'm gonna apply the spawn weight of normal Level1Flow for march and see how it works

[forest plank]

I meant I'm not doing anything with the networking

[short quartz]

March by default uses an exclusive version of facility called Level1Flow3Exits which generates in an extremely weird way and I think is designed to only register 3 fire exits

Ye I get ya

[hollow river]

its not on you

cus the interior was just normal facility

[short quartz]

I forgot March uses that unique version of Facility cus I never go there

[hollow river]

march in particular spawns the 3 exit variant which probably doesnt account for any more or less than 3

idk why basegame doesnt just have a scalable amount of fire exits for normal Level1Flow

[short quartz]

Not even sure why Zeekerss created that version of Facility tbh

I mean custom moons use the normal one just fine

[hollow river]

when i think about it, i'd guess LLL patches base level1flow to allow more than 1 fire exit because custom moons aren't standardized like that

[short quartz]

Maybe

I'm not sure if LLL patches the vanilla interiors

Only Batby would know

[hollow river]

since march is the only moon with more than 1 fire exit in basegame i imagine zeekers didn't wanna set up level1flow to work with variable exits

[forest plank]

Or didn't know how to expand the levels to accommodate it so designed it as a work around

[short quartz]

Possible

The thing I dislike about that version of Facility is the way it generates inside, it generates so weird compared to the normal version of Facility

Last time I played March and got facility it was so easy to get lost in lol

[hollow river]

i think thats the point

when i checked march generation in LQ it almost generates as large as titan

[short quartz]

On top of it being really hard to find loot

Yeah idk, March just feels weird generation wise

[hollow river]

it's probably made that way to give the bracken ample room to do its gimmick

kinda like vow

[short quartz]

Maybe

[forest plank]

Conclusion: March sucks

We'll see what v70 brings, but maybe March D will make the fog thinner and that's it

[hollow river]

ok nvm that wasn't the problem

generated SubSystems and still got it

[forest plank]

Weird because I play tested last night and not once saw this

Share logs and I can take a look

It's only with the new fire exit and none of the others?

[hollow river]

yes

i specifically went to the new one for it

[forest plank]

weird because LLL found all 4 fires just fine

[tribal portal]

if you're using LLL you can replace the factory interior in march with the one used in the other moons

my mod does that by default already

but it doesnt fix the fire exits constantly generating hugging each other :/

thats the only caveat

[forest plank]

Rebalanced Interiors will

[forest plank]

Only 2 more moons left, then I can get to that

[jade vine]

guys

should i put all of the things to always

how come u can put random b in the c area

and others

just like how does that work

[tribal portal]

you ask the most interesting questions

[jade vine]

if theres multiple exterior fire exits are they supposted to lead to the same interior one

[jade vine]

:(

[forest plank]

There is a guide at the top of the config for what each setting does

[jade vine]

?

[forest plank]

That's not a me thing

Are you saying that you entered different fire exits and they led to the same door?

[jade vine]

yeah

[timid grove]

use buttery fixes or this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ButteryStancakes/FireExitFix/

[jade vine]

i have buttery fixes

[timid grove]

skill issue

[jade vine]

the game just really wanted me to have 1 fire exit ig

cuz the 2nd time i had 2 fire exits it worked fine

even if they spawned right next to eachother

and now i disabled any extra fire exits cuz i dont need all of them

[forest plank]

Yeah idk what the deal is with the fire exit bug but it's seen a sudden uptick in the past month

The fire exits spawning near each other is unfortunately normal dungeon generation

[hollow river]

which is crazy cus like

nothings changed

with the game or LLL

[forest plank]

Provide me your ideas for Titan pls. I might start designing this weekend

So far the only guaranteed one is more fire exits spread across the building, but I'd love to see if I can make a cruiser viable one lol

I'll put 8 fire exits on top of each other so whenever you enter it's random

[hollow river]

• a bunker or otherwise extra building far behind the ship with a fire exit?
• a platform that can't be reached (without a jetpack) above the main entrance with a fire exit?
• more pipes and general industrial clutter around the catwalks? to make it harder to see what's happening at the ship?

[forest plank]

Pupe

[hollow river]

[forest plank]

Would you want extension ladder to also be able to reach?

[hollow river]

personally? no

it would make it a separate justification to use jetpack aside from getting up to main faster

and would make it an "only down" situation which there isn't really anything like that in game

i guess maybe a little detail of a broken ladder near it?

i guess another one i just came up with would be

• an extension of the left stairs that leads to a fire exit, but has gaps and generally looks beat up and old

[timid grove]

(this is yet again a joke, but it would be kinda funny)

[chilly forge]

This reminds me of something; I need to off myself

[timid grove]

this is jsut that one tolian moon

urhmmm i forgor the name but it's one of the ones w a really good layout idea

something prime

calt primeee

that one

[chilly forge]

No no I'm not talking about anything LC-related

Just reminds me of the 'ol '40's a bit

Calt Prime is goated though I will say

Too bad it doesn't have a name that fits in with the Exomoon Catalog's story though

[jade vine]

how come theres so many fire exit settings

[chilly forge]

Yeah I will say that some of the settings are kinda held back with their fire exits,,

The decor is enough tbh

Moons like Assurance DO NOT need two-three fire exits 💔

[jade vine]

i put always to every setting but ones that add fire exits

[hollow river]

i do like the one that puts a fire exit in the place where the back exit of old experimentation was though

[timid grove]

I think that one's a tad redundant but I don't hate it

the added fire exit close to the ship on assurance is nice

[chilly forge]

Wait is it a new fire exit or does it just move the vanilla one

[hollow river]

it's a new one

it fills in that hole in the way back of experimentation

[chilly forge]

🥀

[forest plank]

Because only vanilla March has multiple fire exits

Fortunately v1.1 will split the Fire Exits into their own improvements as best as I can

[jade vine]

:D

[stuck oracle]

A Fire Exit near the bottom of the stairs by the original Fire Exit could be good, nobody really uses those stairs on Titan because of how efficient it is to just jump down from main so that would at least encourage people to run over there for the convenience of getting inside to loot faster.

[stuck oracle]

This also isn't actually a bad idea if it's restrained. Having a visible extrusion from the main complex that has its own ladder and Fire Exit would add some more options for where to pile scrap. It'd be more immediately noticeable on landing than my other suggestion too, and I'm really into part of the Map Improvements experience being eyeing up the moon while landing to check for any noticeable differences.

[simple wing]

Since in the lore, Titan was used for mining and excavation, you could have a system of tunnels you going into the bottom of the large building in a sort of maze that’ll lead to a large room with a fire exit

Since you can’t use the cruiser on the moon normally, you can use it in those tunnels to take scrap from the fire exit to the ship. that is, if you can memorize the layout of the maze

[forest plank]

It's because landing is the only time you can clearly see everything before you enter the fog

[stuck oracle]

🙂‍↕️

[chilly forge]

Are ogopogos compatible /w Artifice's water

[forest plank]

what

[chilly forge]

Biodiversity entities

They spawn in water

and I'm wondering if they work with Map Improvement's Artifice water

[forest plank]

Can't say, don't use biodiversity. Have you tried it?

[chilly forge]

Yes, and I don't think I've ever seen them there, but I've never actually went there to check since the dams aren't really in a playable area

[forest plank]

I don't know the requirements for it to spawn, but the water is just a mesh with some drown triggers

Maybe do some investigating for me and let me know

[tribal portal]

lol wtf even are ogopogos

never used bio

do they like spawn in water

oh you just said that

[forest plank]

apparently

[tribal portal]

oops

so do they like.. swim?

thats interesting

[chilly forge]

They're area denial entities

They don't sit in one spot though and camp

[forest plank]

I'm currently spending more time making the icon for the breakable snowmen mod than the actual code itself, so look forward to that

[forest plank]

Thoughts? I'll do a bit more testing before releasing in the next few days

[timid grove]

if it works like water ogopogo can swim in it

I also made it spawn on artifice just for this improvement lol

[timid grove]

they spawn super fuckign far away, it's very hard for you to actually get to see them

[timid grove]

love the icon

[chilly forge]

You should probably have their range of swimming from the banks/main playable area decreased

If that's even possible

[timid grove]

don't think that's possible lol

we would have to set up spawn coordinates for them and then have them not wander

[chilly forge]

Rn they straight up do not exist if you don't go out of bounds/out of your way to look for them

[timid grove]

though we could implement a thing where they don't wander far from their spawn position but eh

[timid grove]

i mean yeah

the dam isn't really up in your face lik that on that improvement isn't it

[chilly forge]

No

Vow too

Adamance kinda

[chilly forge]

(If you turn off wandering, which makes the damn pretty much unusable)

[timid grove]

what?

on adamance it literally spawns right behind the ship

and on vow it's either at the dam or left of the ship

also don't turn on their wandering for vow if you're doing that lmao

[chilly forge]

I had them spawn super far away from the ship

Maybe a one-off glitch Idk

[timid grove]

that shouldn't happen

esp on vanilla moons

they have hardcoded spawn positions

unless somehow map improvements messes those up but they should be just fine

[forest plank]

I can't really do anything and since it's can still spawn there isn't much issue

Unless you guys really want me to fix it

[timid grove]

I've had it spawn before w your improvements so you're fine

if I had to guess maybe since rebalanced moons does some diff stuff the hardcoded spawns ain't working so gogo can spawn wherever the fuck it wants on Vow

[chilly forge]

Gogrt

Gogurt

[timid grove]

ill have to test it out honestly

can do rn actually, i've got a profile with rebalanced moons and biod rn so

nope, he's spawning right where he's supposed to on rebalanced moons' vow

spawned 10 and they're all in their hardcoded spots

spawned 10 on adamance

they don't have anything hardcoded on march so this is a pointless test but here's 20 of them on march

[tribal portal]

W graphic design

@timid grove do they spawn ok on march

i put a fuckton of spawn denial points in the lake

so shit doesnt generate in there

bc i wanted navmesh in the lake

oh

[timid grove]

yeah this is on your scene

[tribal portal]

i guess they do

i didnt notice the bridge

[timid grove]

ye

[tribal portal]

so they ignore spawn blockers

how tf does this work

dont most lakes/rivers have no navmesh

[timid grove]

uhhh they don't from what I know

since generic uses them to allow the ogo to not spawn on shitty spots on his water moons

same with wesley

[timid grove]

it doesn't use navmesh

it. just moves

they're earth leviathans except tied to bodies of water they spawn in

so you don't see them until they come out

here's the 5 or so under the lake

[tribal portal]

ok well i have a fuck ton of spawn blockers in the lake so they're clearly ignoring it or smth

(i put sphere colliders on them to visualize)

not that this is a bad thing ofc

just noting

[timid grove]

maybe jean eric and weatley use different ones idk

@dense cairn @woven sinew how do you do it . . .

[tribal portal]

jean eric..

[timid grove]

glenn eric

[tribal portal]

i know they work otherwise rocks would be spawning in the lake

xd

the reason i wanted navmesh down there is bc forest keepers just.. freeze standing in place when they fell down into the lake from the bridge breaking

them walking around in the water is also kind of weird, i wanna make a custom trigger to kill forest keepers in the lake

[timid grove]

i mean a log doesn't fucking explode when it falls in water but i get what you mean

[tribal portal]

no not explode

but like

it should probably eventually drown right ?

[timid grove]

it does make it funnier that they're alive in there cuz if you fall they'll just go in and eat you anyway pff

[tribal portal]

plants drown

[timid grove]

prolly yeah

idk about a tree but plants ye

[tribal portal]

yeah idk

[timid grove]

so those spawn blockers are for props and enemies, right?

[tribal portal]

ya

[timid grove]

that's goofy that ogo ignores that

[tribal portal]

at least

[timid grove]

love my little guy

[tribal portal]

vanilla enemies

[timid grove]

yee

[forest plank]

I need to rework the particles for the snowmen, so I'll aim for a sunday release

But this also makes me want to make everything destructible, so I may also make that at some point

Especially the lights on Rend/Dine

I'll make the snowmen its own mod

[dense cairn]

I have the spawn denial point on the water itself

[tribal portal]

OH

[dense cairn]

Like it’s the tag or the layer I forget which one and I’m not on my pc to check

I think it’s tag

[tribal portal]

spawn denial points are a tag

[dense cairn]

Yeah

[tribal portal]

anyways

so you mean you put them over the water surface

[dense cairn]

Naw I put the trigger itself

https://tenor.com/view/gassy-tole-cat-incredible-tole-tole-tole-green-tole-cat-green-cat-gif-18258857092676430390

[tribal portal]

OHHH

i seee i see

thats smart

[dense cairn]

It’s probably not the best way of doing it but it works

Oh

Yeah totally yeah I knew that

[tribal portal]

No that probably is the best way of doing that, lol

[forest plank]

Outsourcing my testing because the snowmen are so rare. I really just need to test against the tall snowman, but let me know thoughts on the visuals. Code in on the github if you want to double check I'm not sending malware lol

[vivid spindle]

what do the different config options do

like

putting them all as enabled is the same as always?

and combine all is the same too?

[forest plank]

The description for each is found under the Basics section at the top

Always ignores the random generation

CombineAll will spawn all if that one is randomly selected

Enabled is just that one when randomly selected

[hollow river]

I might have an idea as to what is causing the 4th fire exit on march to act up

i tested with and without lethalperformance enabled

and with it disabled it allowed the fire exit to work properly

so my theory is that this case is the opposite effect from what is happening with interiors like sector alpha and tartarus

those interiors wouldn't allow the player to get inside through the main entrance but would allow the player to go outside through them

which is because they didn't have a networked entrance teleport on the interior door

i suspect that in this case it's the exterior door that isn't networked

since you can go inside through it but can't go out

example from tartarus thread

diffoz says the fix is to use SpawnSyncedObject and set the prefab to the entrance teleport

[simple wing]

so this is fun

i got both rebalanced moons and mapimprovements on rn

latest version of both

[forest plank]

You can see all the decorations, especially the extended pipes

[hollow river]

EntranceTeleportC and D both have the NetworkObject.IsSpawned flag set true, but EntranceTeleport4's flag is set false

[forest plank]

Check B's

[hollow river]

ok

[forest plank]

I am using D as the base, so I am unsure why that'd be different

Maybe something wrong with the id?

[hollow river]

are you performing SpawnSyncedObject with it

[chilly forge]

Will Experimentation A ever be compatible with RM 💔

I miss my v4 homage

[forest plank]

Dopa issue

[chilly forge]

I see

[forest plank]

I do nothing I let LLL handle all that jazz

[hollow river]

A and B also have the flag set

[forest plank]

Can you go through and check other additional fire exits because idk what could be the issue

[hollow river]

ok

[hollow river]

just tested experimentation, your additional fire exit isn't networked there either and has the same problem

[forest plank]

I think your modpack must be doing something

send me code

[hollow river]

it's because lethal performance caches entrance teleports

this is very close to the problems of interiors like tartarus and sector alpha

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i'll test rebalanced titan's new exit as well to see

rebalanced titan's extra fire exit is networked and works correctly

[forest plank]

At what point does LP cache the teleports

Because rebalanced has the whole scene changed whereas I add it in

[hollow river]

i imagine LP wouldn't mind as long as SpawnSyncedObject is used during the creation of your changes

@prisma reef am i wrong about that

(and sorry for pinging so often recently)

[vivid spindle]

this isnt working btw

[forest plank]

Sorry that means the outside lights in the improvements

Should've specified

I'll consider making it affect all lights, but Rebalanced does do that as well

[vivid spindle]

rebalanced also doesnt a config to toggle which specific things you want and dont want

but this mod does

[timid grove]

it does, just not for every single change

[vivid spindle]

the spotlights on artifice kill my friends computer for some reason so i wish there was a way to change it but yeah

[forest plank]

I'll make a D version for v1.1 that will be blanket fixes for moons

The main issue for blanket fixes is that the fundamental way my mod works is random, so I either need to have every improvement apply those fixes OR designate one for that fix

That's why Exp A-C have the collider fixes, but only 1 Artifice fixes the pipes

[timid grove]

volumetrics are harsh on some PCs

it's one of the reasons my PC shits the bed on Generic's moons a lot

[vivid spindle]

they turned volumetric fog off and it still hurt their pc

[timid grove]

that's just volumetric fog

the spotlights are volumetric lights

afaik anyway

[tribal portal]

not how that works

light volumetrics need fog to render

if your friends pc cant handle two spotlights i think that is something they should be compensating for, not me

lol

[timid grove]

oh that's good to know then

[tribal portal]

ye

[timid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/coke-shake-gif-10345312455443749330

[tribal portal]

the setting i add just increases the distance it renders

and disabling it makes it the same as vanilla again

(also lethalsponge overrides the setting anyways and if ur friends pc is really THAT bad they should probably be using that)

[prisma reef]

@forest plank are you Instantiate networked prefab and don't call to spawn networked object?

from what I see in unity hierarchy looks like it is

then you need to do this:

GameObject g = Object.Instantiate();
g.GetComponent<NetworkObject>().Spawn(true);

[forest plank]

Oh no I've been exposed as a fraud by someone who knows what they're doing. I technically do everything client side as far as I understand. I have no experience with networking

[hollow river]

so do you run your changes regardless if people in lobby don't have it?

[forest plank]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prisma reef]

SpawnSyncedObject is needed for interior and moon devs, but in general if you spawn dynamic object you need to call spawn from network object

[jade vine]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster

[hollow river]

ah i see

[forest plank]

I expect you to make said disaster happen

[jade vine]

Huh

I remember I used to run diversity with vanilla

Cuz it used to work for some reason

(it doesn't anymore cri)

[timid grove]

what are you saying bro

[forest plank]

If anyone liked Rebalanced Moons April Fools update & wanted a MI compatible version, you can find it on the github page here: https://github.com/Spookybuddy/LC-Mods/tree/main/MapImprovements/April fools
Just replace the bundle & dll with the ones found in this folder, & use with Rebalanced Moons v1.10 ONLY

Depending on what dopa does it may be turned into a separate mod, but until then it will remain as a manual download from the github

[timid grove]

oh fuck yeah LMAO

thanks dude

[forest plank]

It was an easy change, just swapped out materials & tags. Unfortunately I need to work on the reader before you can use both at the same time

[forest plank]

I lied but it is out now. I didn't see anyone say anything so I released it as is, but knowing my luck it'll have 10 trillion bugs that I somehow missed :)

[valid nimbus]

Hey, has this been reported yet?

Just experienced it

[timid grove]

ye, it's happened a few times

iirc it's cuz of rebalanced moons and that particular improvement clashin

[forest plank]

Yeah working on a fix with Dopadream for next update

[valid nimbus]

Nice, thanks

which improvement causes this? Only the old facility one?

[forest plank]

Either disable Rebalanced Experimentation or Experimentation A for now

[valid nimbus]

Understood

[vivid spindle]

maybe mapimprovements can do the same thing that rebalanced does where it blacks out the windows/removes the fire exit hole in the alleyway when Experimentation A is disabled

idk

[forest plank]

I'll consider it

[vivid spindle]

cool

[chilly forge]

Entrance Teleport Optimizations may be constantly blocking MI fire exits Idk... I've just been noticing the block alert from Lethal Performance
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[chilly forge]

@prisma reef hi

It's apparently Lethal Performance doing this

Even without Entrance Teleport Optimizations

So like

Fear

Update: It's not happening now after I reinstalled both mods, cleared the cache, and deleted their configs
What the fuck

[hollow river]

what exactly are you asking abt here

like you think so cus it sends the log?

[chilly forge]

It's only begun to manifest after I added it, only on MI moons

[hollow river]

because MI fire exits arent correctly setup to work with LP caching

their NetworkObject.IsSpawned is false which indicates they werent created during generation

LP looks for entrance teleport that is identical to vanilla ones so it can use cache instead

so improper setup ones like in MI confuse it and it doesnt know where the teleport leads (which causes entrance is blocked)

you can disable teleport caching in LP and use ETO, and it will work

[chilly forge]

Strange, because when I tested earlier; disabling Cache Entrance Teleport didn't fix the issue

[hollow river]

it did

LP just doesnt disable the log

[chilly forge]

It was still blocked though

I went there to check myself

[hollow river]

which one was it

cus i use both LP and ETO and the entrances still work

[chilly forge]

A new fire exit on Offense to the far... right of main

Near some yellow scaffolding

[hollow river]

offense A right

i'll check it right now

[chilly forge]

kk

[hollow river]

shows this as expected

i can go in and out that fire exit just fine

all your ETO config is the defaults right

[chilly forge]

no

I have the alert for exterior entities enabled

[hollow river]

ok

that shouldnt affect it

cus i have that on too

there could be something else causing it

like if you havent updated buttery fixes since the last update

[vivid spindle]

@forest plank https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Temmie3754/EasterEggFixesPatch/

what does this even change

[timid grove]

did you read the description

[vivid spindle]

yeah what does it mean

[hollow river]

what do you think it means

[forest plank]

Huh

I mean taking a quick glance it just changes the rng from the coordinate based of vanilla to Random.Next

I can look at the code for it later if you'd like

[forest plank]

Yeah that's exactly and all it does

[chilly forge]

@tribal portal @forest plank Either one of you put this huge dam model under the map on Vow, and entities are spawning on it, making the moon less dangerous. Please fix it

[forest plank]

Why would dopa do such a thing

[hollow river]

what even is it

is it the railroad wall from exp?

[chilly forge]

I have no other mod that affects the Vanilla Moon's scenes

[chilly forge]

Either that or Vow's dam

[forest plank]

It's Vow C obviously

[vivid spindle]

why does the baboon hawk look so disgusting in this photo

[restive hatch]

Eclipse

[vivid spindle]

looks like skin

[chilly forge]

Yeah no shit, baboon hawks have skin

Anyways yeah, eclipses make outdoor entities look ugly

[vivid spindle]

like flesh

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spongebob-its-a-rock-boulder-pioneers-gif-12602375269789460360

[chilly forge]

That's

green

[vivid spindle]

looks peachy enough

welcome back white people

[chilly forge]

Will you ever fix this

Happened to a forest keeper just now

[forest plank]

Pay me money and I'll fix it faster

It will be 'fixed' in the next update, but I need to make titan not blow up my pc everytime

My mod already gives a lag spike before generation so titan's 2.2x map is not helpful

[chilly forge]

Titan's facility isn't even that detailed bruh

I mean the exterior building

IIRC that's why Titan has such high loading times

[forest plank]

Just disable Vow C if it bothers you so much

[chilly forge]

Nah, I'll just wait

It's not that big of a deal

[forest plank]

Big enough of a deal that you felt the need to say something again

[chilly forge]

Just wonderin'

[forest plank]

I prefer to do big updates instead of constant small fixes

[chilly forge]

Understandable

[forest plank]

I'll try to get back into development in the upcoming days but no guarantees when I'll have an update out

Busy

[tribal portal]

its the interior size

[chilly forge]

Doesn't happen with 2.2 custom moons though

[tribal portal]

titans takes the same amount of time to load as said moons for me

titan also has a long route time intentionally which could be confused for long loading times

[fossil brook]

Im getting an issue where the inside of Experimentation hollow and unloaded, I assume its a mod conflict, is this a known issue and if so what mod?

[forest plank]

Rebalanced Moons. Either disable Experimentation Scene or Experimentation A

[fossil brook]

Oh ok cool

and how can I remove the error talking about mismatched entrance teleports, if thats possible

[fossil brook]

also does this have any issues with any other moons that I should be aware of?

[forest plank]

No Experimentation is the only one

Don't know about the entrance teleport issue, something something lethal performance I think? scroll up somewhere to find the specifics

[restive hatch]

This issue was also discussed in Lethal Performance with further detail about the fire exits, and how map improvements adds them.

[fossil brook]

does is actually cause any issues or does it just say it

[fossil brook]

Also whats the difference between RandomAll and RandomAny

[forest plank]

Setting description is at the top under the Basics

RandomAll = 50% for all other objects
RandomAny = 50% for one other object

[prisma reef]

matty explained what would happen if entrance teleport is not networked
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[fossil brook]

oh damn. Would it fix it to remove lethalperformance then?

[forest plank]

It's only an issue if you are using lethal performance

[fossil brook]

Ah ok

[prisma reef]

no

[prisma reef]

also no

rpc will still not be called

[forest plank]

Quite literally yes, because I do not use lethal performance and have not had any issue

[prisma reef]

because vanilla doesn't check if player is inside for other players, but some mods may check that

causing desync

I decided to add validator due to that

[fossil brook]

are there any known mods this causes issues for cuz Im making a pack for me and my friends to run journey mode

[prisma reef]

yes, https://github.com/DiFFoZ/LethalPerformance/issues/15

[hollow river]

what was gonna be in the next update anyway

i forgor

[forest plank]

Titan

[hollow river]

ic

did u figure out how to do the entrance teleports

[forest plank]

I haven't looked at it yet but it'll probably require me to rework the entire mod

[hollow river]

got it

[prisma reef]

it's probably just simple fix instead of rewriting

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[hollow river]

i'd be willing to test that

[forest plank]

I'd need to make things not client side wouldn't I?

[prisma reef]

🙂

[restive hatch]

sounds like it

[round walrus]

vanilla does check that. as AI like masked use it to decide if to search for a player or go outside. also braken/jester ecc...

[round walrus]

i mean... you just have to add an if around diffoz code 🤣

if (NetworkManager.Singleton.IsServer){
    GameObject g = Object.Instantiate();
    g.GetComponent<NetworkObject>().Spawn(true);
}

[forest plank]

if (Error) Don't;

[spark iron]

Just something i wanted to mention: I love this mod. And i do really like the idea of a large barn to land in on Artifice. But sadly i have had to disable it because Old Birds tend to get stuck in there and never leave creating a massive killbox even worse than the kidnapper fox for anyone trying to get to the ship from my experiences with me and my friends.

[forest plank]

I can't account for compatibility with every mod out there, but luckily you can enable/disable the improvements you don't like/are causing issues

I'll add the old birds to my long list of bugs to look into

[forest plank]

Map Improvements is currently compatible with the v70 Beta (This may change if March is altered). Adamance will need to have the foliage updated, but that is only an aesthetic issue. I'll get back into working on Titan and fix it then, but I may focus on updating my other mods first.

[hollow river]

oh right

i saw this in 1a3's changelog

dunno if this means ||your destructable snowmen mod is useless now||

[forest plank]

I'd assume they're gonna be seasonal

It is significantly less useful, but only for v70+. People can still use it in previous versions

[vivid spindle]

Does it break with the company drill

[forest plank]

No the drill is moved forward and you can open the trunk

[vivid spindle]

And the apparatuses are fine?

[forest plank]

yeah

I mean you can also look for yourself

[vivid spindle]

@forest plank can we turn it back into vanilla water?

[forest plank]

it is the vanilla water

It's the water I add in

[restive hatch]

How is it going with changing the mod to server rather than client / and fire exit popup w/Lethal Performance?

[forest plank]

you'll have to endure it for now

[restive hatch]

Oka, cause i'll definitely be adding it to my pack once it is fixed, I shall wait.

[vivid spindle]

but its the water material

you changed that right

or how is it different

[restive hatch]

any fire exit

[forest plank]

Yeah I changed the shader to match the vanilla water better

the water material in the bundle

Or just disable lethal performance

[vivid spindle]

oh ok

[radiant sonnet]

Over the last couple of days, have had the chance to use Map Improvements

absolutely stoked with how the moons play. Really happy with stuff, thank you for putting the time you do into making this so great.

[forest plank]

I'd love to be able to put more time into getting the updates out, especially with v70 out, but unfortunately I do have real life responsibilities

[vivid spindle]

Yeah its nice to have an alternative to Rebalanced Moons that has a config to keep the moons vanilla

[tribal portal]

btw i promise i will fix experimentation soon

lol

[timid grove]

this is like top 10 mods for me honestly

I could put it in biod intended... but idk