#Beanie's Mods🌳(Enter The Gigastructure)

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modest bear
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yeah thats fine

patent hinge
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if i removed one side, sometimes the side wouldnt have a thing to cover it

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yeah it works fine its just unperformant

patent hinge
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"i wont work on it" he said

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i lied

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hmm the errors seems to be related

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oh

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wait

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no

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hmm

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II GOT ONE OF THE TILES WORKING

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victory screeeech

queen kraken
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7

patent hinge
queen kraken
patent hinge
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guess who got both the tiles working

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so heres the thing

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zero idea why it had memory errors

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and i fixed it by redoing everything

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but it works now

tough urchin
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nice

patent hinge
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and this birrrddd you cannot changeeee

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fuck

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did it brick itself again

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im gonna kms if it did

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it did but lemme see

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its gotta be a propset error

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i know it

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wait

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but

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i didnt even change this one tile

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and its breaking it again

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wtf.

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I CHANGED NOTHING

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HOLY SHIT

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unity, die

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useless machine

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fix one error 20 more appear

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it was working 5 seconds ago

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i made no changes

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now it doesnt work

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convinced unity is just stupid as shit

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i just copy pasted everything lets see if that fixes it

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nop

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fuck me dude

tough urchin
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Whats the error

patent hinge
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memory error

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AGAIN

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also doesnt tell me anything about why it occured

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god damn whoever made dungen..

tough urchin
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F

patent hinge
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yep both tiles are broken

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like

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genuinely fuck unity

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why do you randomly decide to break

modest bear
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what's the tiles again? the ones with the fans?

patent hinge
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yes

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but

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other fan tiles exist

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and they work

modest bear
patent hinge
modest bear
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cool catwalk area

patent hinge
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this tile works and has the exact same, shape, formation, doorways and settings

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modest bear
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check the random prop scripts, what do they look like

patent hinge
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1 sec

modest bear
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alright that's both of my ideas for what's up with it deconfirmed

patent hinge
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i deleted the copies that i copied them from

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those copies werent working

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and were useless

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is there any chance, they were somehow relying on them???

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i just ctrl + v'd everything over

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that shouldnt result in them being dependent

modest bear
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your best action might just be to completely recreate the tiles from scratch

patent hinge
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yeah so funny thing

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i like

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did that

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and it still broke

modest bear
patent hinge
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ok haha

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so

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i just copy pasted one

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and suddenly

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its fucking working!

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unity please end thyself now

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this inconsistent piece of crap bro 😭

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lets try it on the other one

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ok cool so it worked for the first one and not for the second one

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despite doing the exact same thing

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oh ok so

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you know the tile i fixed

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its broken

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and i didnt change it

arctic seal
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im not a coder but

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if one tile keeps working as long as the second one isn't there

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would that mean it's something between the tiles rather than both of them individually being broken

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like they're fucking each other up

patent hinge
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no so like

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i copied one

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it worked

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i copied the other

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it stopped working

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i deleted the one that wasnt working

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and the one that was working before now doesnt work

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makes no sense.

arctic seal
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???
weird

patent hinge
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i aint fucking with it today

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im done

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gonna just relax

ripe gale
ripe gale
patent hinge
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me trying to figure out unity

ripe gale
patent hinge
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the forlorn frost

ripe gale
patent hinge
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yumy renade

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i eateds

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grenadir

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no im

ripe gale
patent hinge
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beanie

ripe gale
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ur fr

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no

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I am Beanie

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I am stinky

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I am Fatty

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@patent hinge you fraud

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change your name back

patent hinge
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Plah

patent hinge
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hes evil

ripe gale
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unleash him

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let chaos reign

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tbh I didnt even think about it

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ew the meme is bedrock

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dammit

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it was a good meme

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Ifunny is worse

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reddit is pretty bad for watermarks

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if you use the download button instead of right clicking to download an image

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its only applied as you download it so its not too bad

patent hinge
ripe gale
patent hinge
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binky dinky

ripe gale
solar mica
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be evilnie beevil

patent hinge
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THE MOLD SPORES

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i may have found a solution

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propset BS

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gonna take time

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holy fucking shit this makes me wanna kms

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this is so annoying to do

ripe gale
patent hinge
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i have good news

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the interior is in a functional, playable state

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wromg!

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i think i had 100 fps

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maybe more

patent hinge
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nope

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3050ti

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mid tier shitbox

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yah

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i dont think it is

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its mid tier

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i could afford a 4090

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i just dont bother

tough urchin
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check yalls privilege

gleaming shard
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me with intel CatGun

modest bear
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what happens if you try to order a cruiser with the hangar interior generated or bring a cruiser to a moon that the hangar interior generates on

solar mica
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a holy force from the skies strikes you down, then your game closes

gleaming shard
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an empty noninteractive model is ok tho

patent hinge
gleaming shard
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I'm not even sure if that mod is intended for daily use

patent hinge
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its not viable to buy multiple cruisers

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so its either no funny indoor cruiser or that mod

gleaming shard
patent hinge
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yes

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theres some spots where driving is possible

gleaming shard
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Problem is there are enemies and mods that assume there's only one

patent hinge
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its meant to be a silly lil feature, but for skilled people, can actually help

patent hinge
gleaming shard
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It's like adding a second terminal

patent hinge
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really?

gleaming shard
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it can break lots of stuff

patent hinge
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didnt know enemies depended on it that much

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like what enemies would depend on it like that

gleaming shard
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the fox and masked I think? I'm not really in the loop, I just remember people were doing caching in all of these performance mods

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Which will also break most likely

patent hinge
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i cant think of a reason why masked specifically would break

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unless they specifically target a cruiser

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cus to my knowledge they just have off mesh links

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hmm

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welp

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ill let everyone decide in a poll, but if i add it and it breaks stuff ill have to remove it regardless

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if we choose no, they will spawn as static props with no way to drive or move them

gleaming shard
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And add network transform and network rigid body

patent hinge
gleaming shard
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So they would sync

patent hinge
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they dont spawn near fans

gleaming shard
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Ok

patent hinge
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and the fan code is also player-sided

solar mica
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i think it would be best if there was a config for it to be a functional cruiser or static prop

patent hinge
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i agree on the config part but

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Idk how i would achieve it without the dependency

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unless i learned to make a custom cruiser

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also guys the opps sent me to silentr hill..

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The foggy fogulates

solar mica
patent hinge
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but its a foggy day

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hopefully i can find some scraps

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alrogjt im heading inside now

patent hinge
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Ok so cars wont be drivable

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but

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chat

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throw me more tile ideas

gleaming shard
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long-ish tile with parkour/jumps with sideways fans that turn on/off periodically

candid beacon
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2x2 deep pit room, with a chained plane hanging from the ceiling, the wings bridging between 2 doors, and plenty of spawn points for loot

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not like a full on travel plane, just a 1, maybe 2 seater

patent hinge
patent hinge
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I like both these ideas but idk how i would do them in a non linear setting

gleaming shard
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you could add doors with a small platform halfway through the tile that can sometimes appear

patent hinge
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maybe it could be a propset for the tunnel

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hmm

candid beacon
modest bear
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idea: the hangar interior spawns a giant evil teleporter on the surface that lets you teleport the cruiser into the interior

candid beacon
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coding nightmare, id imagine

earnest fog
candid beacon
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both

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not every moon has a collider right in the immediate front of main, and if someone makes a main right over a bottomless pit, the teleporter would be pointless.
while you could go the random placement route, if a moon doesnt have its collisions up to snuff, there'd be spawn problems, and potentially/subsequently scene loading halts

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also,not every moon is cruiser friendly

arctic seal
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wide areas where the room has two explorable floors (kinda like sub-systems)

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with like square spiral staircases leading up to the brim of the second floor
with a fan in the middle you can fall into maybe

ripe gale
patent hinge
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they need to be accessed by a fan

ripe gale
arctic seal
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oh okay that's what I was suggesting lol

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minus the fan movement

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but that's more fun

ripe gale
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now add vents like mog us Troll

arctic seal
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true

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vents you crawl through

ripe gale
sly sandal
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honestly crawlspace vents as "hallways" to connect between some areas sounds like a based idea - until you need to get away from a thumper and you're stuck at crouch speed inside

kinda like uh, alien isolation, where vents work as alternative paths to avoid threats, but you dont wanna get caught in them

solar mica
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idk how hard that is to implement into lethal but its an idea ive had for awhile

ripe gale
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or molten metal

solar mica
patent hinge
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but yeah i agree

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I do need a molten lava tile for the overheated version

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and maybe a cryogenic one for the cold version

arctic seal
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the cold version is that industrial coolant they put in cars and pipes

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the thing that looks like slurp juice but is actually fatally toxic to consume

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basically just a baby blue liquid

patent hinge
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yah

crude grove
patent hinge
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WHY DID NO ONE REPORT THIS

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😭

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and right as i left to go to school

crude grove
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I curse you with pre-school bug report psychic damage heheh

patent hinge
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alright ill fix this asap cus i need to give desperation the canyon tag regardless

solar mica
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oyemonculus

patent hinge
solar mica
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built like a chicken

candid beacon
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havent been on Despacitoeration as of late

crude grove
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Desperation's neat. Some friends and I played all the moons recently, our top picks of the six were Reign, Desperation, and Nephrite

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though we had this funny situation where we struggled to find Main Entrance, we always ended up at Fire Exits our first time around

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funi

dense iron
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Beanies greed greed

candid beacon
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Stinkies greed greed

patent hinge
dense iron
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Both

patent hinge
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the shit mud

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oghhgjghjhh i wanna fumking go home

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im trapped

wispy silo
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Which moons were they, bc we had fun on like all of them aga

patent hinge
patent hinge
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i need to patch desperation

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ill do it tonight if i get home on time

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did you experience the bug when u played it?

patent hinge
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Actually ill do it tmr morning im zonked

tough urchin
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bread actually plays modded AND v69? lol

patent hinge
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and of all things to try

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he played mine

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of all the peak he chose SLOP

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i dont think my interiors are slop but my moons def are

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actually storage complex is kinda eh

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its boring

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well, its vanilla

crude grove
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I like vanilla 🥺

tardy dagger
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I played like 15 different interiors and Storage is easily one of the best by far IMO

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Feels comfy and right at home, fits the vibe of the game perfectly

patent hinge
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splendid

sly sandal
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storage complex is great ^^ its not too open or too sparsely filled with loot, but also not super condensed and lootspammed - strikes a really good balance that (to me) feels in line with the vanilla Facility interior

patent hinge
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(it wont really)

sly sandal
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Looking forward to it

patent hinge
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theres alot of props and containers and stuff creating barriers

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and also the tunnels

sly sandal
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say, instead of having to scroll up through memes and discussion - do you perchance have some kind of gallery of some teaser images? 👀

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(i mean i scrolled through last night, but i think it'd be cool also for others to see it in a single post instead of spread all over the place)

patent hinge
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but i can dump a bunch rn

sly sandal
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that'd be awesome

patent hinge
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im gonna try and finish up the interior today

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and update reign too

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but

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i might not release it today

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cus i need to do the custom art and blah blah blah

sly sandal
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No rush - better to take your time and have a great thing ready later

manic wadi
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take your time, this looks too good to be rushed

sly sandal
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I dont recall, did you have a name for it yet?

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If i had to take a guess, itd be something like Assembly Plant (since factory is technically the second name for the vanilla facility)

patent hinge
sly sandal
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Checks out

patent hinge
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also rn im giving desperation some relatively major changes, i figured i might aswell

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the terrain isnt being touched much

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but some props are

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should make it more fun to hide from old birds

sly sandal
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oooooold biiirds yeaaah 🎵 starts blasting free old bird by lynyrd sigurd

sly sandal
patent hinge
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reign is also getting proper lighting

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sadly i lost the splatmap for the terrain so

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its mostly just snow now

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not any rock walls

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but its fine

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it wont stand out too much cus of the darker daytime

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oops

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reign has no floor

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gotta fix that

patent hinge
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oh my fucking GOOOOD

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REIGN

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PLEASE

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USE YOUR FUCKING FOG

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ive changed the fog 6 times

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none of it has worked

sly sandal
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i cast "magic IT touch" on your fog

patent hinge
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welp

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it just

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refuses to work

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ig we are stuck with this version of reign for a while

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that being the

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wait

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FUCK

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ohhh

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shit

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i deleted the old one

sly sandal
patent hinge
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gonna kms

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oh wait no

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old uploads

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ough

sly sandal
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this is why we keep pre-change copies my friends

patent hinge
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no its fine

sly sandal
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yeah but like, that panic right there is why

patent hinge
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im just gonna undo the update cus this fog ruins everything

sly sandal
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lol

patent hinge
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so i just wasted 3 hours on this shitty planet

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its going back to exactly how it was before and i cant give it custom tags for the interior sadly

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so it cant be the frozen variant which sucks

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because its the only moon of mine that should have it

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all of this because my terrain randomly ceased to exist

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so rip

sly sandal
patent hinge
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and LLL just, doesnt have a config for level tags for whatever fucking reason

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nice

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we can ofc configure the day speed multiplier but tags, some simple words?

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nooo

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not at all

earnest fog
patent hinge
earnest fog
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overheated?

patent hinge
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theres overheated and frozen variants

modest bear
patent hinge
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and i dont have the old version for my editor

modest bear
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so you can just build the moon files

patent hinge
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hmm

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errrm

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perhapulates

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ohhh i get it

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makes sense

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alr ty i might be able to make it work

modest bear
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it'd probably be best to recreate the terrain at some point anyways though unless you never want to update the moon's gameplay ever again for the rest of time

patent hinge
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i fuckin despise reign now

sly sandal
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you could say it reigns over you right now

patent hinge
patent hinge
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LEAK EXPLOSION

sly sandal
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holy moly

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leak you say?

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surprise, pipe bomb!

patent hinge
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(this will be brighter on releas because right now its really big inside, and the light count is low

sly sandal
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okay now that is epic

patent hinge
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id say its ready for release

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but

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there is ALOT

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not included in full release that i plan on doing

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it doesnt have the 3 appy events yet

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and i plan on adding more unique heat based props

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so overheated will have like, forges and stuff

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and then when i get stuff working ill make the hydraulic press and stuff

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but for now its a functional interior

sly sandal
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looking forward to trying it

patent hinge
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heres the dilemma

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i need a sick ass icon for this

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and i need to fit all 3 types into an icon

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i dont know how

sly sandal
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⚠️ <- you know this kind of hazard triangle

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split it into 3, each segment has one of those types

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first thing that came into mind, no idea if it would work or look well given your other thumbnails

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probably not very well honestly, so uh, let me think

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Its a vehicle hangar so it absolutely should have a ship somewhere in it.

modest bear
# patent hinge

it doesn't feel warm enough...the lighting is just redder...

patent hinge
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other than just

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adding fire

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which i cant really do as of now

sly sandal
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I assume the red thing is it being hot/dangerous?

patent hinge
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im gonna add lava and stuff eventually

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wait chat

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nuclear variant?!?!

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idk where the heck that would spawn tho

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maybe on military moons

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its a common tag methinks

sly sandal
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I know you hate fog after the reign incident, but i think a red-orange haze to identify its a hot environment could work (or maybe smoke?), along with blinking red lights to show its dangerous?

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Idk if this heat thing affects the entire interior

modest bear
sly sandal
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Yeah an overall orange haze with blinking warning lights for actually dangerous key areas could work

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green for radioactive along with maybe some (occasional so its not obnixious) geiger clicking as ambience?

modest bear
# patent hinge how the heckington do i make the player feel warm

i'd say have the lighting extra orange? like eclipse orange. also, a general red fog (not volumetric) would probably be good (0-e does this and it helps alot from what i can tell)
maybe also a very subtle warbling effect on the player's screen like a heatwave if that's possible

sly sandal
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^^^^^^

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Lethal elements' heat wave effect looks nice

modest bear
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maybe pipes occasionally releasing little bursts of steam (not the vision blocking hazard)

sly sandal
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Or fire, with a valve to turn it off on one side ?

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You could run through it in an emergency but itll nearly kill you, but maybe let you get away from something chasing you (enemies might be inclined to not path through it?)

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Hell i could see this be a thing for Storage Complex aswell honestly given it also has pipes (except carpet floor)

manic wadi
# patent hinge

will the appearance of the interior depends on the weather or something?
I looks decent tho

patent hinge
manic wadi
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oh yeah fair

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forgot for a moment about level tags

solar mica
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beanie greed can you add this

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patent hinge
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yes

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i will

solar mica
patent hinge
# patent hinge
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Should I keep the indoor cruiser spawns?

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victor_answer_text

No. (might cause less mod conflicts?)

arctic seal
# patent hinge

im loving the effects and lighting on this a lot
this might actually be my favorite interior im not even joking 👁️

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now if it plays good too thats gonna be ultra peak

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cuz grand armory looks super cool but plays like ass most of the time

patent hinge
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The overheated version is too empty compared to the cold one

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the cold one has snow and ice

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the overheated just has nee textures and is orange

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i need something unique

patent hinge
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ill do ground steam and machines

patent hinge
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only issue is, it looks shitty at a distance and in some spots looking up and down causes it to rapidly change brightness

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idk how to fix that...

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ill work on it

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fog exclusively appears on overheated versions

candid beacon
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id lower the height of it and make it a bit lighter

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like 12 inches in height

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at most

modest bear
arctic seal
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if the cold version has snow then glowing embers for the overheated one should make sense

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id also possibly add some glowing overheated pipes?
idk

patent hinge
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its like blood red now

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i think it looks good

grim moat
patent hinge
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hmm

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potted plants dont fit but rubble is good

grim moat
patent hinge
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now all the fog is red

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i dont like it

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ill make it orange

gleaming shard
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I don't think fog fits the hot interior variant, maybe steam or like heatwave particles would be better

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Also if you use the 3D noise texture from fog on Rend and decrease the scrolling speed severely it will look like it's slightly moving and will make it more natural, since there are fans and some air movement plink

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just adjust the offset so that the part of the texture with the swirly fog is right on the floor level

solar mica
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i agree i think steam might look better

patent hinge
gleaming shard
patent hinge
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the steam

patent hinge
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chat im lowkey addicted to repo so

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i wanna make a repo interior eventually

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where you can put scrap in extract points inside and it gets teleported to the ship

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could be neat

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but u have to defend them while u do it

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one small issue

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that requires code

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and i can only do the bare minimum

sly sandal
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Just recreate the maps, and i guess have the hole for the vehicle be a main entrance going to a parking lot where the ship lands?

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Extracting scrap from inside the map would be a bit of a weird thing in regards to how it would work and be balanced so i think its a decent compromise

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repo is funny though, but the devs urgently need to ditch that horrid lmao banner though, makes the game look like a badly made joke asset flip on first glance which just gives it a bad first impression

tough urchin
patent hinge
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thats fine

tough urchin
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They use their own system, havent looked into it though

patent hinge
arctic seal
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i think i have a thing for enemies with guns in extraction horror games

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because the nutcracker and huntsman are my favorite enemies in either game

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i especially love the sounds the huntsman makes its funny

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hearing this thing just randomly turn around go "HAH!"

ripe gale
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@patent hinge

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crystal patrol
# patent hinge

Oh this is GAS
Been busy fixing my modpack so I didn't even see this was in the works, super excited for it!
Time to redo all my configs again horror

ripe gale
crystal patrol
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WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY

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The whole solar system...

ripe gale
crystal patrol
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My pc would implode kek

sly sandal
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dont again unless my pc dies lol Fish
i hope you sir have a file/data backup strategy

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if not, then uh

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get to it

ripe gale
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mine is like middle of the road

crystal patrol
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mine is like a prebuilt from 2018 that ive just been jamming new pieces into

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middle of the road roughly too

ripe gale
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my cpu is ass tho

crystal patrol
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SAME

ripe gale
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its bottle necking my good ish card

ripe gale
# crystal patrol SAME

I need to upgrade both anyways because DOOM: The Dark Ages comes out soon and thats rtx REQUIRED

crystal patrol
ripe gale
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cpu issue

crystal patrol
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Gotta beef that cpu

ripe gale
crystal patrol
ripe gale
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I just also like mega modpacks which need hefty pcs

crystal patrol
ripe gale
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most silly mod is toomanyemotes

crystal patrol
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Likewise, but emotes doesnt count, that stuff is REQUIRED

ripe gale
crystal patrol
ripe gale
# crystal patrol i got the same setup lol

the crazy ammount of interiors and moons makes up for the fact we dont have a crazy ammount of new enemies(I love project scps stuff but some of them are a lil perf heavy and need some optimization)

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(mainly the ones that havent been updated in a while)

crystal patrol
patent hinge
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i WILL update veld, thallsic and nephrite to use this eventually

ripe gale
# patent hinge

maybe shove it somewhere in the new interior Troll (maybe on a crate)

patent hinge
patent hinge
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Ill put it on some cargo containers or something

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as a rare thing

crystal patrol
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I already got a few moons in my list that its gonna CLICK with

lament bolt
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Anyone know how I am supposed to do this? I am confused on how to make constellations

patent hinge
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im clueless on that stuff

lament bolt
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oh mb, I clicked on the wrong thread lol

patent hinge
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ah gotcha

placid kestrel
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Love your moons and mooon's custom interiors

patent hinge
patent hinge
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was just saying i have no idea how to do that stuff

placid kestrel
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Yea like gray apart ngl fits well with Thall and so does manor

patent hinge
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good news: new interior is practically complete

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grey apart was made by someone else wasnt it?

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who was it again

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i forgort

placid kestrel
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Oooo

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Yea made by Demonmae

patent hinge
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i only made the storage complex

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so far

placid kestrel
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I might try it out ngl

narrow bronze
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pretty sure zeranos is forgotten by now

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but do you have plans to add compat to it..........

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(yknow the one with the elevator and infinite floors)

lament bolt
patent hinge
narrow bronze
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most interiors dont work with it

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except some of demonmae's interiors which have compat with it

patent hinge
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i have zero idea how to add compat

narrow bronze
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pretty sure its the reactor one

narrow bronze
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one sec

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@patent hinge

patent hinge
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ooh

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hmm

narrow bronze
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i know jackshit about gamedev, but it doesnt sound that hard to implement

placid kestrel
patent hinge
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its easy but you underestimate my lazyness

narrow bronze
narrow bronze
patent hinge
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oh also leak jumpscare

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currently i just need to playtest and fix a major error with specifically the overheated variant and then we are good

narrow bronze
patent hinge
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it just wont generate and i dont know why

placid kestrel
candid beacon
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hmmm... have a little idea for later down the road

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will discuss

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later

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maybe

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if i remember

patent hinge
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so lemme know

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also god ngl performance can be shit in the icy variant

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by shit i mean like 60 fps

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its def the particles but i cant find a way to cull them properly

candid beacon
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shrink the quality to 1024x1024 pepsim3Smile

patent hinge
candid beacon
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hmm

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im no dev

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well, an experienced dev

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but shouldnt textures be in increments of 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, and so on?

tough urchin
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not necessairly

candid beacon
modest bear
patent hinge
patent hinge
sly sandal
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lookin fancy though

gleaming shard
# patent hinge its def the particles but i cant find a way to cull them properly

https://unity.com/blog/engine-platform/particlesystem-performance-culling-tips

Unity
#UnityTips: ParticleSystem Performance – Culling

Culling is only possible when a system has predictable behaviour.
Turning on a single module will not only add to that module’s overhead, but may increase the overall systems impact due to switching from procedural to non-procedural mode.
Changing values via script will prevent culling.
Using custom culling can provide a performance benefit, bu...

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tldr: you can't have collision or world space effects and culling

patent hinge
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ah oki

gleaming shard
patent hinge
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and i believe i did have world space on so ill need to turn that off

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i thought it would make particles only render around the player cus i saw a comment abt it somewhere but they are just wrong

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:p

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makes it way worse

gleaming shard
patent hinge
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hmm yeah nah

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im turning it off then

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sadge

patent hinge
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im the number one procrastinator

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interior lowkey finished and ive just been waiting to upload it

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cus i cant find peepl to playtest

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it needs more unique propsets

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ough

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but idk what to do besides the idea of the concrete buildings

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and the mechanical bitses

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alr i need yalls opinions on this

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the interior is fully functional, pretty varied and I think it would be fun to play

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however i have stuff still planned

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I want to add extra cold/hot variants for wall blockers, add propsets for the ice spikes and heat pipes, add new heat vents with vfx and more

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additionally i would add a whole new type of propset for the 2x2 tile in the form of mini parking garages

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they would occasionally have a broken cruiser in them

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and then the liquid pits with coolant water or lava

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so: do i release it now and add these as an update later, or keep working on it?

sly sandal
narrow bronze
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id say keep working on it until it feels complete

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but if you want the interior out rn

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go ahead

sly sandal
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Yeah if you arent 100% happy with it you should continue, but on the other hand you did say you need people to test it

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and doing an earlier release to test the fundamentals could work to get feedback provided people actually, yknow, give said feedback

patent hinge
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I dont wanna put out slop tho

sly sandal
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(if you do need someone to just like do basic usage testing to see if it somehow might break, i am free)

sly sandal
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The only reason i pubbed my ship sfx mod so early was because my friends didnt want to constantly local import, and TS doesnt support unlisted uploads (which is a bruh moment)

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and TS doesnt support unlisted uploads (which is a bruh moment)
honestly that is something that, for games with steam workshop support, makes beta testing life so much easier

sly sandal
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Hey Beanie, question for ya; I'm currently trying out your moons properly for the first time since ive been wanting to add them to my group's pack for a while now and we love the storage complex, so with your upcoming new interior its only right to try the moons too.

I noticed that your moons don't have in-game video previews - is this something you have considered adding to your moons at some point?

sly sandal
patent hinge
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Also sometimes they overlap with stuff

sly sandal
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Thats a fair point, was moreso just curious

patent hinge
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Sowry

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I lowkey havent played my own moons in months

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even though i updated them

sly sandal
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just been on reign, pretty cool

patent hinge
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reign is ass

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stupid lighting errors

sly sandal
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i can see why you wanted to change the fog

patent hinge
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And i cant fix it…

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Sadnezs

sly sandal
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i totally did not fall off the edge btw

patent hinge
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unless

patent hinge
sly sandal
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Yeah i waltzed back up, was crit though

patent hinge
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yah lol

sly sandal
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If i had a nickel for every time i found a fire exit on a modded moon BEFORE main entrance id have a few nickels now

patent hinge
sly sandal
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Yeah i realised that after

patent hinge
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however most people go the normal way

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my least favorite moon out of all of mine is probably reign

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i like the setup but its so assss with the lighting errors

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symbiosis is good it just needs improved elevator spots cus of the animation clipping

sly sandal
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AYO okay i see why you called this one desperation

patent hinge
sly sandal
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||my ass getting eaten by a dog 10 secs after landing||

patent hinge
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btw the crates used to not be hollow

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you couldnt hide in them before

patent hinge
paper adder
sly sandal
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you dont fkin say

patent hinge
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also the interior is hell

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i hope you like masked and nutcrackers

sly sandal
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thatll mainly be nutcrackers then, we use mirage's masked spawn mechanics to make them be a lot rarer but actually impactful since you end up forgetting them

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also bruh

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patent hinge
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also im gonna buff desperation soon its loot to danger ratio is like offense

patent hinge
sly sandal
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how many did you put under here, i already counted two so far lol (attempt 2)

sly sandal
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cant see any baller (or ballsy) cruiser opportunities here on desper, i didnt really check reign because fog

actually imma go enable imperium rq and just check

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honestly jetpack might be the play for desperation now that i think abt it

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Why does it cost 300 though, thats actually worse than embrion (and embrion at least can be justified by just going all the way around to fire exit, especially with cruiser)

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holy crap symbiosis seems goated for a cruiser pilot like me

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yooo

lost crypt
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yo @patent hinge do you mind if i 'borrow' some storage complex tile designs as a subtle nod to your mod being inspiration for my storage complex

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if i actually do this i will credit you

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i was already but i mean i'll credit you since you created those rooms

patent hinge
sly sandal
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I mean yeah its tied to the spawn caps but damn

patent hinge
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i think its either two old birds, a couple dogs or some earth leviathans (mixed up usually)

patent hinge
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glad i gave inspiration

sly sandal
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still cant really imagine myself paying 300 for a trip there, especially with the vanilla mechanic of paying to route (we in our group have pay to unlock, so we're way more likely to go there since its a one time purchase)

patent hinge
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when i get home

sly sandal
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epic

patent hinge
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and im gonna (hopefully) change reign

sly sandal
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I didnt get around to checking cruiser viability with reign, i suspect its not great given the slopes

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but man symbiosis cruiser potential is big

patent hinge
sly sandal
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I mean yeah, some moons just arent

patent hinge
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(he will be in heaven)

patent hinge
sly sandal
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you are correct, i have not

patent hinge
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expected

sly sandal
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wdym anti titan

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titan also has nothing for cruiser

patent hinge
sly sandal
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that is true

sly sandal
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im making dinner now but will go to nephrite later

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Im still sorta on the edge with adding thallasic, it seems a bit off-theme from base LC and the other moons but maybe thats just an illusion/first impression

patent hinge
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no jump required

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but the jumps help speed wise

sly sandal
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meanwhile, fire exit with the giant concrete landing pad slab:

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love the elevators btw

sly sandal
sly sandal
# sly sandal love the elevators btw

also sidenote the vanilla elevator music caught me off guard since we usually run a sound replacement, but i think its a welcome diversion and makes those elevators unique in our case so, very cool

patent hinge
patent hinge
patent hinge
patent hinge
sly sandal
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oh neat

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I mean i got a good chuckle out of riding the elevator down and just immediately finding a damn anvil outside the fire exit lol

patent hinge
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lol

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ez pickings

sly sandal
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yeah with the cruiser it actually would be if it were a serious run

patent hinge
sly sandal
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note to self and anyone else: thalassic + office = actually a super fitting combo

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uhhh

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so i was curious why ive not been getting any weather on the moons so i figured id check the log for weights

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I am running registry as thats kind of a given for custom weathers and a super common mod, but should i be concerned?

[19:25:22.3464578] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Level with planet name 52-Desperation was not found - setting to None.
[19:25:22.3464578] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Level with planet name 42 Nephrite was not found - setting to None.
[19:25:22.3464578] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Level with planet name 74 Veld was not found - setting to None.
[19:25:22.3464578] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Level with planet name 85 Reign was not found - setting to None.
[19:25:22.3464578] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Level with planet name 93 Thallasic was not found - setting to None.
[19:25:22.3464578] [Warning:WeatherRegistry] Level with planet name 23 Symbiosis was not found - setting to None.
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(also gonna put this in the registry thread if i cant find anything myself, maybe mrov can elaborate)

sly sandal
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Absolutely something you should look into, LLL tags are pretty important for LLL moons

patent hinge
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so does reign

sly sandal
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let me check

patent hinge
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id know cus i tested the new interior on them and the dynamic tags worked

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although i mighta set em up wrong so it only works with the interior

sly sandal
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ok yeah just checked, reign has Tundra and Custom

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So im curious what causes this because the other modded moons i got from distinct moons work fine with all weathers, including those from lethal elements

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the only immediate difference i can see is no Paid / Free LLL tag, but i kinda doubt thats the issue

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okay just so im not being dumb here and wasting time: your moons do have weathers in vanilla, right?

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Like, just asking for the sakes of my sanity before i try to break my weather registry config lmfao

sly sandal
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Update: setting weather registry to ignore weights and use the vanilla algorithm for picking random weathers for random moons seems to let your moons have weathers now.

So this seems to be some kind of weight or tagging issue in the end, will ask mrov what he thinks.
Im pretty sure the error i posted above relates to the moons not having correct moon weather weights, but from what i know that should just cause weather registry to assign the default weights, which it seems to not do and instead it just sets weather to none.

patent hinge
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i think veld and mayyybe nephrite just dont have weather

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velds is intentional

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the enviorment is very stable

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but nephrite's was due to restrictions

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idk maybe i put foggy on nephrite?

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idk

sly sandal
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Might be worth putting that tidbit somewhere lol

patent hinge
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yah...

sly sandal
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but with the vanilla algorithm it does seem to pick random weathers for your moons now so

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patent hinge
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good

sly sandal
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Gonna ask mrov about it though, maybe he knows whats up

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but from what i know that should just cause weather registry to assign the default weights, which it seems to not do and instead it just sets weather to none.
specifically re: this

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okay it gets wackier

arctic seal
sly sandal
# sly sandal I am running registry as thats kind of a given for custom weathers and a super c...

I checked that earlier log again just for my sanity;

| Desperation     | ["Stormy","Foggy","Eclipsed","Cloudy","Blackout","Solar Flare","Heatwave","Toxic Smog","Snowfall","Blizzard"]
| Nephrite        | ["Cloudy","Blackout","Solar Flare","Toxic Smog","Snowfall","Blizzard"]
| Reign           | ["Stormy","Eclipsed","Cloudy","Blackout","Solar Flare","Toxic Smog","Snowfall","Blizzard"]
| Symbiosis       | ["Stormy","Foggy","Eclipsed","Cloudy","Blackout","Solar Flare","Toxic Smog","Snowfall","Blizzard"]
| Thallasic       | ["Stormy","Eclipsed","Cloudy","Blackout","Solar Flare","Toxic Smog","Snowfall","Blizzard"]
| Veld            | ["Cloudy","Blackout","Solar Flare","Toxic Smog","Snowfall","Blizzard"]

it actually shows these before it gets set to to None, so clearly it does have possible weathers to pick from, and it just doesnt. You can tell Veld & nephrite shouldn't have weathers because those ones there are mod-added from Mrov Weathers and Lethal Elements. Will fwd to mrov now.

arctic seal
# patent hinge I dont wanna put out slop tho

as long as you make it known in the title and description of the mod that it's a WIP I think this thread could be used for bug reports and fixes before the final 1.0 update of the interior

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you shouldn't be worried about "putting out slop" because everyone in this server trusts your quality and we know it's going to be fully updated anyways

sly sandal
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And yeah same, i wouldn't mind testing. Pubbing before 1.0 to get feedback and bug reports in isnt a bad idea - it means your 1.0 will likely have less bugs or weird issues

sly sandal
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also btw beanie i did notice that for some reason, desperation is the only moon thats listed with a - (or without a space) in its name in various logs and configs

patent hinge
sly sandal
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epic

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true gaming

sly sandal
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so uh update on this

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consider it a rookie mistake

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-# it worked fine when i made a new save...

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😭 i feel like i lost an arbitrary amount of braincells when mrov just said that one of the messages is from not using a new save. So of course i had to check if it happened on a new save that wasnt my debug/testing save

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so uh consider this resolved i guess

patent hinge
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Oh ok

sly sandal
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you should still add the remaining relevant LLL tags though btw, especially paid/free, since thats still a good practice for moon makers

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but yeah seems to work now

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very epic, very based

patent hinge
patent hinge
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"oh man i sure hope symbiosis has horrible elevators for the rest of time"

the nefarious elevator fix;

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all elevators now have guide rails and small pits beneath them to prevent clipping

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symbiosis is no longer (total) ass

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its still ass but

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less so

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@ripe gale ty for the icon btw

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how would u like to be credited

ripe gale
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Explodingturtle one idea I had is this a graffiti

patent hinge
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splendid

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anything for the mod page?

ripe gale
patent hinge
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awrighty

patent hinge
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ill just bg remover it

ripe gale
patent hinge
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ty

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oh

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its

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just another emoji

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whatevs

patent hinge
ripe gale
patent hinge
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updates have released for:

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reign, symbiosis and desperation

tough urchin
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where's the coderebirth update

patent hinge
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sorry i ate those food

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god fucking damn it

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why did symbiosis crash

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all i did was change 2 meshes

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and upload it

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without checking

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and now that i check after uploading

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its broken

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imma kms

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im losing so much sleep over this

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stupid fucking moon

patent hinge
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ficksed it

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but

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the pits in the elevators have broken collision

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to a point where its good, not bad tho

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its just not accurate

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so ill fix it later

solar mica
ripe gale
patent hinge
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me in uh

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3 days

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cus

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then its my birthday

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greed day arrives in 3 days

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wait no

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basically 2

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its almost 12 am

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fuck

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i need to eepy

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bye

solar mica
crude grove
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very interesting behaviour with Old Birds

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not really a bug report, it's just funny lol

sly sandal
# crude grove

for some reason i can imagine eurobeat working well with that drifting there

patent hinge
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i wish they couldnt sometimes spot you in there

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Its annoyin

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maybe i can change its tilt or size to fix it

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Do the other ones work?

sly sandal
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ill try it rq

patent hinge
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ty

sly sandal
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Desperation containers right?

patent hinge
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also im aware that you cant step into the elevator pits on symbiosis

patent hinge
sly sandal
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I read you made changes to the spawn curves for desperation - did you also adjust the moon price/loot aswell or is it just spawn curve?

patent hinge
sly sandal
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bro camping me after getting spotted

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crude grove
sly sandal
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exterior view

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If its at all possible, i think a second opening on the back of this container might be helpful since im basically stuck with it perma aggrod

patent hinge
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why is zeekers ai so blegh

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it might work if i scale down the containers

crude grove
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maybe you can have the doors of the containers open and close on interaction? Maybe that'd require too much extra stuff though

sly sandal
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okay i was able to try and juke his grab

patent hinge
sly sandal
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and then bait him around the container to lose LOS

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so i think you can get out if you know how the old bird grab mechanic works and can juke it

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still not great as its about a 25% chance of guaranteed death lol

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AAAAAAAH OH GOD

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HE JUST ENTERED THE CONTAINER

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helppp

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bro is hacking!

patent hinge
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wtf

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yeah im gonna shrink them a bit

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looks like they are just barely on the threshold for bs like that to happen

sly sandal
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Old birds are one of the messiest enemies in general

crude grove
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i honestly don't know why they specifically spot you through their legs, it's very unintuitive

sly sandal
patent hinge
sly sandal
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but their search circle is messed up

patent hinge
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oh i have an idea

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ill add props inside to hide behind

crude grove
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I could have sworn there was a video I saw that mentioned that their line of sight is between their feet

sly sandal
patent hinge
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and make it slightly smaller

sly sandal
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THIS is how they search

patent hinge
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search for nodes? Or players

sly sandal
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the area directly infront of them has nothing

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players

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this is what they do when roaming - if they have LOS to a targetable player/enemy within that ball, it switches to the searchlight mode

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which then has a standard "search cone" from their head

sly sandal
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but its offset forward for some reason to "emulate" them seeing with their eyes and not being able to stare directly down infront of them

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here it is with the search cone once you get spotted in the ball

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crude grove
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Okay yeah I found the video I got the info from, and it's just for when they're searching yeah. What an odd way to do it

sly sandal
crude grove
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yeah they straight up don't see you if you're crouching, even when directly in their vision