MelanieMelicious Mods 😱 (2 sToRy ShIp, Utility Furniture, Pocket Rooms, Farming and Cooking, etc.)

[rich ice]

OH YEAH, WHAT IF I CREATE A NEW SHIP EVERY FRAME

you'll never outnumber me

[carmine topaz]

This is likely why this error happened @native cape lmao

[native cape]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-scared-scaredy-cat-cute-gif-8511608

[carmine topaz]

I could only get it with UDA though

[carmine topaz]

Oh god the performance issues

LMAO

[raw prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-kroshik-kroshyk-inspection-gif-11440479798830990404

[native cape]

Don't tell me Mel uses try-catch statements to hide errors

[carmine topaz]

Why does it do that anyways? Doesn't Vanilla just naturally do that

[carmine topaz]

She does

Xu has mentioned this plenty of times

[brisk widget]

A lot

[native cape]

To delete previously unlocked windows

[native cape]

Doesn't that add a lot of overhead?

[floral ocean]

i want you to know there is not a single piece of code that isnt inside a try catch lol

and the catch is just:

try
{
// code
}
catch
{}

[brisk widget]

I actually never tested what will happen if i get fired only with wider

[raw prawn]

No errors are escaping someone's wraith

[native cape]

I'm sure it's fiiiiinneeee

[rich ice]

yeah, you get a fine

[brisk widget]

No one reported = dont care

[carmine topaz]

@native cape

[native cape]

No report, no issue :>

[carmine topaz]

48 tries and 16 catches in the code of 2 Story Ship

[native cape]

I'm gonna rewrite 2 Story Ship next

[rich ice]

yeah, I gotta up my numbers

[carmine topaz]

Why are you using so many try catches Mel?

😅

it's all of your mods even

XD

[rich ice]

so I don't have to care about 50 million reports of mod incompats

[native cape]

To not break the game when an error occurs, probably

[carmine topaz]

[raw prawn]

to trap you in vanilla ship purgatory

[native cape]

Or I'm rewriting Mel. Haven't decided yet

[brisk widget]

Yeah, rewrite mel, i should be only one without a voice in vc

[carmine topaz]

I mean DiFFoZ has done tons of profiling with my pack and Zaggy has as well with Mel's mods present and neither have found any overhead from Mel's stuff

[brisk widget]

Damn, mel is a copycat if you think about it

[carmine topaz]

Well

[native cape]

Voice is only available in premium plan

[carmine topaz]

The Fire Exit I suppose is an exception

lol

[rich ice]

give me rewrite battlepass

I want to communicate through vibes

[carmine topaz]

I at least hope the issue with Ship Windows after a wipe is an easy fix lol

[coral shoal]

the melpass is only 950 melbucks

[native cape]

Done. You now communicate using Vib(e)rations

[native cape]

Should be

[carmine topaz]

I know Mel was gonna be pushing an update to fix the floor window anyways so that's just an extra fix to include

[copper sage]

i will continue to joke about a 10 story ship
(yes i know there's a capped height for decor and scrap)

[indigo dirge]

You won’t be getting new ships for long

https://tenor.com/view/cat-apple-gin-cat-apple-gin-ginjutsu-gif-17327634018368568698

[urban jolt]

anyone having issues with belt bags phasing out of the ship during takeoffs/starting a save?

[coral shoal]

i think that was reported in sciencebird's thread

[urban jolt]

I can't find it by searching his name or wideship at all, would you happen to have the link?

[brisk widget]

#1338282728918880399

[lone juniper]

A few mods recommend using 2story ship as a means of regenerating the ship navmesh. Is this the only mod that does that?

[brisk widget]

wider ship and problematic pilotry

[brisk widget]

btw what were these mods?

[lone juniper]

Ngl I was asking because of problematic pilotry. Lethalintelligence says under compatibility for problematicpilotry

masked cannot path to the ship unless a mod like 2story ship regenerates the ship navmesh
I just assumed that meant problematic pilotry didn’t regenerate the navmesh on its own. I also know I’ve seen at least one other mod mention using 2story ship to regenerate the navmesh but idk off the top of my head.

[brisk widget]

readme is a bit old ig (and weird because what did author mean by this)

[lone juniper]

🤷‍♀️

Thanks for the info. It seemed the two mods worked properly together last I played, so now I know 2story ship isn’t necessary for compat

[wicked ruin]

I don't know if it's 2 story or vanilla, but the charging station seems slightly lower than normal so when someone goes to charge something, their feet clips in the ground than after goes back to normal

[karmic surge]

Does a higher number mean faster growth?

[floral ocean]

yes, since it's chance based

so it'd be between 0 and 100

[karmic surge]

Thank you

[lament gorge]

I'm not sure exactly what's happening (trying to figure it out rn) but the RV cruiser isn't spawning anymore when I buy a replacement. Like after the first cruiser gets left behind all the other cruisers I buy are regular cruisers...

Just curious if anyone else has had a similar thing happen. I've only installed a few new things lately... Namely CodeRebirth, but idk what would be causing this.

[floral ocean]

i dont touch the cruiser in the current update so not coderebirth

[lament gorge]

I just removed so many mods and it's still doing it, even with cruisercourier which definitely didn't do it before. Idk why even if I don't have an RV cruiser spawned, the first one is always an RV cruiser. However, the second cruiser spawned isn't.

https://tenor.com/view/maneater-lethal-company-maneater-cry-cry-cry-about-it-gif-7129814395565437366

[wide hull]

You know, I experience issues with the floor too. IS it 2-storey ship related? Some furniture seems to sink an inch or two when I place it; the bunk bed is the worst and sinks like a 10 inches.

[lament gorge]

I think I figured it out, its the latest lethalperformance update that does it

idk if thats fixable but mentioning it in here and in that thread if there is one

notably cruiserterminal and rvcruiser seem to bork but cruiserimproved stuff stays, so I assume its fixable

[ripe lotus]

it says that because i found at the time, that wider ship and problematic pilotry both led to masked either accessing the ship in ways they shouldent, and in the case of problematic pilotry.. accessing the ships original position, while not recognising the position the ship was actually in., im aware both have received updates since then, but i havent tested.

i just basically wrote "i would advise using 2story ship as it fixes the issues", which may be fixed now anyway 🙂 (as you said, old readme)

also, i think my readme has been misunderstood... i was saying 2 story ship was required/reccommended to be used at the time, to avoid issues that occured without it (ie, when wider/problematic were installed without 2 story)

[brisk widget]

this is literally what i thought, still not sure what it was at the time of writing this readme

[ripe lotus]

well, if memory serves...

wider ship on its own led to masked walking through the ship walls.. with 2 story installed, the navmesh was regenerated, which fixed that issue.
and as i said, for problematic pilotry.. with the old version (5 months ago?), the navmesh was not moved with the ship.

just checked both wider ship and problematic pilotry, both have updated navmesh, so removing those lines from my readme xD sorry i didnt check before, just always had 2 story ship installed since it came out so never noticed it was fixed.

[brisk widget]

Its fine

[uncut girder]

Melanie Melicious Utility Furniture Pack? This one's causing me errors, including not being able to move more furniture or extreme lag. My frame rate was dropping, and I think it's because I'm constantly checking something while moving.

And now that I reinstalled it, for some reason I stopped having lag when I entered the room, but since I did that, it wouldn't let me grab any objects anymore.

Can someone check the mod pack? I just don't really know much and I would appreciate it if someone could really help me.

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[uncut girder]

Another problem is that when trying to buy the door window for some reason it changes with the door 1 of the furniture

[royal prawn]

is it a known issue that standing in the spot on the ship behind where filing cabinet and bunkbeds normally spawn causes enemies to path to you by going out on the exterior railing instead of coming into the ship? I tested being under the stairs, and being on the second floor, and on the second floor railing, and enemies like eyeless dogs or immortal snail were able to reach me and kill me just fine, but this specific spot tricks them into thinking I'm out on the exterior catwalk of the ship for some reason. I really wanna use this mod but I don't want players to become invincible by using this godspot lol.

[coral shoal]

this is a thing in basegame as well i think

the colliders are weird so sitting in the bunkbed corner in base ship also thinks you're outside

[royal prawn]

really!? ... fascinating... do speedrunners exploit this or something? lol
Ah well, if it's vanilla's fault then I guess there's no point not using this in my modpack since it's so great, will just have to make a note to leave bunkbed and filing cabinet there to try and combat this one particular godspot

[coral shoal]

yeah so

if ship takes off and you're in that corner

it will teleport you when the doors close

cus it thinks you're outside

[royal prawn]

lol

[raw prawn]

also why loud horn is good there lol

[royal prawn]

I notice my 2-story RV was using regular vanilla cruiser physics collision size when I first purchased it, but upon buying another one, it used the collisions that matched the RV model. Is this a known issue from another mod incompat of some kind?
I suppose it's easy enough to get around, just forces you to buy a cruiser and intentionally abandon it, then all future cruisers are the proper RV with its correct collision mesh

[royal prawn]

also, anybody run into this lil floating boi outside the ship after installing 2-story ship?

[floral ocean]

idk i'd fly using imperium to check ito ut

might be rv cruiser

[brisk widget]

wakey wakey melanie, your mod is broken

[royal prawn]

it's not out in space, it's right beside the ship hovering above the exterior railing and has no collisions. Looks like it's a piece of generic tech meant to look mounted on a wall outside the ship but it's in the wrong spot and orientation for some reason

[brisk widget]

oh yeah its just vanila asset and for some reason melanie forgot about it

[wide hull]

Yeah, if you ever see something weird on that (exit the ship and turn right) side of the ship, assume it's a coordinate-related compatibility error. A lot of mods I test will think the default ship is over there.

[royal prawn]

I can't use 2-story ship, masked can get inside by just phasing through the wall where the suit rack is 😭

[wide hull]

Oh .... shit, really? <.<

[royal prawn]

yeah 😦

was on Gloom, spawned a masked in, shut the doors, waited

he houdini'd right through the suit rack wall and got me

[wide hull]

Wait.... with or without wider ship?

[royal prawn]

without

I didn't wanna use wider ship because it has multiple god-spots where enemies think you're out on the railing and never enter the ship

2-story ship at least only has one behind the bunkbeds and filing cabinet

but if the whole ship is rendered permanently unsafe, I just can't accept that for my modpack 😦

[wide hull]

Hmm, I just realised I've never tried 2-storey with wide ship but only the right (facing door from inside) side widened.

[royal prawn]

I cannot seem to get my RV cruiser to function right, the tires won't visually increase in size like they should

and the collisions refuse to obey the new cruiser model shape either 😦

[uncut girder]

The same thing happens to me. Insecurity is a problem. I thought it was the masked men who came to see me, but it was too early, and I don't know how they came in.

Could it be that the mod creator is planning to fix it?

It's just that the other time I asked for help it was a little faster.

[rich ice]

Moons that don't have their navmesh made in a similar way that most compatible vanilla moons do, have that issue. Moons that do should usually work fine. That's why I put a navmesh blacklist config for moons that aren't built like that, to stick with the original ship navmesh. There is a default list, but any other moons outside of that I'd either have to add, or players would have to add, themselves, and I don't currently do any automatic checks

[rich ice]

it's probably the portable fire exit, which I never added the fix for yet. Putting it in storage should usually fix it, but if frame drop still remains, though unlikely the case, try putting away the portable room, next.

[uncut girder]

OK THANKS

[rich ice]

and this happens if you're in orbit, and currently you either land or - if you have a mod that lets you exit the ship in orbit - go out the front door and back in. This shouldn't happen when landed, but if it does, then exiting and re-entering ship through the main door should fix it.

[rich ice]

oops, guess I have to change a name probably

[rich ice]

this only occurs with Celestial Tint's outside objects enabled, because I never decided to fix it yet. This only happens in orbit until I decide to fix it

[rich ice]

weird, this is almost the inverse of the issue here: #1289403092307279907 message

might need to do some checks and changes on it at some point when I'm available, even if it might just a compat issue

[rich ice]

uh, message right above my reply for context for you

[uncut girder]

Could you check out my mod pack? Please.

[royal prawn]

anything I can do to help? I really really want the monster truck RV in my modpack. My friends complain it's boring to ride in the back of the cruiser, RV fixes that. The cruiser is a little too difficult to control or keep from tipping over or spinng out, and monster truck fixes that. I desperately don't wanna give up on monster truck RV

[rich ice]

I decided I feel like trying fix rn, so if I release an update for the RV soon, it would help if you can confirm the issue still happens to you after it updates? I'll say when I've updated (might take up to an hour for mod managers to sync after I upload one). Depending on how large your pack is, maybe send a profile code so I could use it as a test?

[rich ice]

which speaking of, uh, to check for which part (if it isn't any of parts I gave solutions for, if they worked). If you just mean like a general mod profile check overall, uh, not sure how helpful I'd be in that

[wide hull]

im sorry im sorry i never asked for this i actually really like your mod dont look at top messages

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/killer-cat-cat-knife-ruocgiff-gif-24035655

[brisk widget]

our problems with cruiser is related to LethalPerformance

[rich ice]

but what if I pretended I didn't see that

[brisk widget]

..or not? just tested it with small test pack but i remember some reports about cruiser and lethal performance

[torpid fiber]

fumo when?

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-angrycat-orange-orangecat-gif-12955247756667881418

[royal prawn]

copy that, @ me when the update is live, otherwise I'll check periodically myself every half hour or so

[torpid fiber]

make it every 10 mins and its a deal

@rich ice copy that and @ them once the update is live

https://tenor.com/view/cat-studying-gif-27407442

write it down

[rich ice]

got it, every 10 minutes I @ them once the update is live

[torpid fiber]

exactly

[rich ice]

and then I have to write it down

[torpid fiber]

keep a detailed report of each ping

[royal prawn]

ah heck let's make it every 10 seconds, go big or go home

spam @ me until a mod gets mad at you

https://tenor.com/view/grinning-cat-smiling-cat-grinning-orange-cat-smiling-orange-cat-cat-meme-gif-14433926547551215148

[wide hull]

herer it comes

[copper sage]

oh god, i see it, too

[rich ice]

So I actually ended up mostly doing a mild rewrite, and then adding direct compatibility with other cruiser mods.
I should also have hopefully fixed cruisers after the first to now be RV variants as well @lament gorge (never replicated the issue, but these changes should affect it).
For physics colliders, I didn't actually test if the attempted fix works, yet @royal prawn, since I'm stopping for a bit, and might check in an hour+. But if the fix doesn't work, uh, hopefully the other fixes compensate

2-Story RV Cruiser 0.1.3

• Added MultiCruiser compatibility.
• Added direct Cruiser Additions compatibility (including moving cruiser light switch).
• Mild code adjustments to more consistently refer to individual cruisers rather than generally, for more reliability.
• RV cruiser setup now occurs slightly later to try fix physics collider and other potential initiation issues.

[copper sage]

captain chef mel

[royal prawn]

I'll test for you rn, thx so much

[rich ice]

ooh, remember, unless you're doing a manual install from the site, any mod manager apps will have some delay. Thunderstore might be half an hour, Gale could be a full hour, etc.

[copper sage]

ts = at least 2 hours (not accounting for commercial time)
gale = roughly an hour

[wide hull]

You're awesome Mel, you've been working for hours

[copper sage]

that's a picarto emote

[wide hull]

Yeppers

[copper sage]

recreated that one with my bestie's oc

[wide hull]

niceu

[torpid fiber]

@rich ice youre awesome mel 🥰

deprecate your mods

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gato-serio-gato-meme-gato-engraçado-cat-funny-gif-15219126009338517158

[copper sage]

(admittedly some parts were traced, but just to get the anatomy right)

[wide hull]

lmao

[coral shoal]

what are the physics changes supposed to do? do you think it'll fix the thing of the cruiser being too easily pushable?

[royal prawn]

update still ain't showin' up in thunderstore 😭

nvm there it is

[royal prawn]

wheels are correct size, though don't appear attached to the RV (which is likely on purpose since that would require further model changes to the RV so not a real issue, just something to note for a later version)
and the collisions for the RV are completely fine upon first purchasing it.
Only problem is the pre-existing issue of the RV being easy to push (namely by standing under it and jumping, but unless mobs can do this to the RV monster truck too, I see this as a non-issue and simply an alternative way for players to get the RV unstuck more aggressively than simple E-pushes)

Thank you so much @rich ice for fixing this up so I can have it in my modpack 😄

[copper sage]

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[uncut girder]

@rich ice At least to solve the problem that I can't buy the door window by name, the other thing was if it failed because the monsters entered with the 2-story ship

Sorry if it sounds strange, it's because I don't speak English very well.

[carmine topaz]

Probably, it made the Cruiser much more janky than vanilla before so I would imagine the physics change was to fix that

[rich ice]

that's mainly a vanilla issue that only happens with the host, amplified by the new size of the cruiser. Not too much I can really do about it atm

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, for door window, if it's trying to buy different item instead, you need to type exact name of the item, in lower case. But if it has spaces, it might not work.
But you can also use Ship Windows Beta for now, which has a different shop (do not use both normal and beta together).
Last option, is you can also go in config for Utility Furniture to disable wall furniture (if you don't use them).

If enemies act weird on the ship on some moons, sometimes you need to go in the 2-Story Ship config, and add those moons in navmesh blacklist.

I might check your modpack in a bit to add moons to default navmesh blacklist config

[coral shoal]

Just got off a long session, I don't think it fixed that

Cruiser was still very easy to push around

[uncut girder]

ok , thanks

[royal prawn]

getting out of the RV (mostly from driver seat) often causes the RV to get knocked back violently about 15 to 20 feet, which I am assuming but have not tested has the capacity to kill anyone still inside (standing in the back and not seated) via physics impact damage. It's not a big deal to just let passengers out first, but it's still quite dangerous. If nothing reasonable can be done about the RV physics, is it maybe possible to at least change where exiting seats places the player? The issue seems to be that the player is just baaaarely inside the collision of the opened door, so perhaps a quickfix would be having them be a bit farther away from the door when exiting to try and mitigate how often this happens?

[royal prawn]

unhooking the RV from the ship when monster truck is enabled also seems to often tip the RV onto its side, even if no players but the seated driver are present or interacting with it

[dry pelican]

so

i really can't tell what i did wrong in my pack

[coral shoal]

thats quite a predicament

[dry pelican]

but also, im not sure if my pack was stable, so this may be just a random compatibility issue with other bugs / broken things in there

[coral shoal]

does it have collisions or you were able to go through it

[dry pelican]

there was collisions yes, some players were stuck on the 2nd floor because of that

but like, we did a full game reset some time after and i couldnt reproduce this

so idk

[brisk widget]

send logs

[dry pelican]

like i said, we did a full reset of the game after, so all logs got deleted because of the new logs, and there was no issues with that

im not really reporting this as a real issue, just i thought it was funny

[hexed python]

i dont see the problem here

free table and podium

[teal quail]

I found a way to do that, I used Darmuh's Terminal Stuff's restart command and it spawned in a copy of the vanilla ship

[dry pelican]

i dont have this mod installed but ok

[teal quail]

Could be related lol

Maybe terminal stuff calls on a similar function to spawn the vanilla ship in

[coral shoal]

got this, the truck that came was just a normal cruiser
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[carmine topaz]

Did you order it on a specific moon?

I remember Powerfull's moons preventing some of the collision fixes and stuff from working before from the Cruiser mods if a Cruiser was ordered on them

[coral shoal]

oh

it was ferangdalion

but i ordered it before the level changed (if that matters)

[carmine topaz]

Yeah it's a bug with Powerfull's moons I believe, I think he has some duplicate asset for the Cruiser or something

Ah

[coral shoal]

it doesn't happen on scallg though

and it didn't happen on ferangdalion until today

so maybe i just got unlucky

[wide hull]

Uh, hey Melanie? Is the bookcase supposed to spawn upside-down?

[carmine topaz]

I don't think this is even from Melanie's mod

I don't recognize this furniture

[wide hull]

It's from the Item_Furniture_MelanieMelicious mod. It doesn't say so but it has genuine extra furnishings besides the scrap chairs n such

[carmine topaz]

Ah that one I haven't used lol

[wide hull]

It's got a few nice items like the aquarium :>

[inner carbon]

I have a request regarding 2-story ship, if possible - is it possible to add a config to move the door monitor to be above the door panel like so? I know that 2-story has the door panel, which I am using - but the monitor afaik is only moveable with lethalpiperemoval (which I would like to get rid of in my modpack)

[carmine topaz]

I personally just disabled that monitor with Ship Colors

XD

[inner carbon]

yeaaah, I was consdering removing it entirely, but I like the monitor lmao

and at this point I am only keeping piperemoval to move the monitor and it's like '-'

[carmine topaz]

I don't recommend moving anything with piperemoval

it comes with a performance hit

[inner carbon]

ye it's why I wanna get rid of it \o/

but before I cut it off, I wanna see if anything can be done about the monitor first, haha

I am unfortunately driven by aesthetics

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice 🤔

[wide hull]

Does Matty's FurnitureLock deal similar performance hits? It also edits furniture positions.

[honest ledge]

My question is what melanie's RV and terminal have in common

[rich ice]

I can't wait for failed to convert oxygen to 0

[rich ice]

It shouldn't, since the performance isn't from moving things by itself. It's that Lethal Pipe Remover does it every frame if you change a position for something, which is what causes the issues.

Also yeah, item furniture, like one of my first mods. I was supposed to migrate the rest of the real furniture to Utility Furniture (and fix/improve some) and said I would a while ago, but just haven't yet. The shelf, yeah, was an oopsy upside-down, but when I move it, it'll be fixed. Also glad to see more people appreciate the aquarium 😀

[wide hull]

:>

[rich ice]

I don't do a check for if you have Cruiser Terminal enabled yet, so it just tries to move it regardless, and if it can't find it, it just doesn't without causing any real issues. It only shows that error now because I added some logging at some of the catches

[rich ice]

I mean, I guess I can add movement configs for that and some other common ship parts. Or even better, if I decide to finally look into it again, letting them be moved like furniture parts. But either way, pretty much yeah sure

[wide hull]

Oh, it's old and forgotten. Is that why you can buy two fireplaces and a second counter (not counter0) but it doesn't have the nifty store item (E) interactions?

[rich ice]

oh okay, that's easy to do

[rich ice]

yeahhhh, that's why. The furniture and fridge were given those storage functions as part of their improvements when moved to Utility Furniture. Alongside changes to their actual models and textures to have better performance

[wide hull]

Off the top of your head, do you know if Moveable_Suits has the same performance issues?

[rich ice]

no idea, but if you can change the suit positions mid-game, and they change instantly, then it has a higher chance of it, but doesn't mean it does either

[wide hull]

It works the same way that pipe does but it only moves the suits (not the rack) and lets you invis the rack/boots. I'll have to test it then. What settings will let me see how often it updates?

[rich ice]

I decided it's easier if I just did a quick skim of the github since they have one public, and I didn't see any Update() patches or methods, so it should probably be fine

[wide hull]

Oh gosh you're so nice for checking that for me! Thank you (/ ' - ')/

[torpid fiber]

Mel isnt nice

There is only cruelty behind those voids you call eyes

https://tenor.com/view/cat-war-ww3-ww2-ww1-gif-1946324958476768576

Dont be deceived!

[wide hull]

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[torpid fiber]

She took funos voice

[brisk widget]

and never used it

[torpid fiber]

And then mu stole it

And then @willow nexus lost the game 😔

[royal prawn]

Whenever I intentionally parked next to a physical obstruction so that I could not be placed beside the RV at its open door when exiting, and instead was placed in the failsafe spot of right in the driver's seat, the RV never seemed to have a physics bug-out moment. I suspect it is highly relevant whether or not the player is on the ground or jumping from the ground, not simply touching the RV while in a free-move state (since jumping while in the back doesn't cause the physics to bug out at all).

Therefore, I think the smartest fix would be to simply try and override whatever exit-spots I vaguely recall CruiserImproved having and instead just make the player always end up in the driver's seat when exiting, and that should be the best bet to stop physics bug-outs the most while also making sure the player is placed somewhere predictable and safe when exiting the RV from a seat.

[torpid fiber]

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice Cruiser mod is bugged

Turned into a Vanilla Cruiser for me after a lobby reload

[coral shoal]

do you have a log

last time something like that happened to me it printed an error in log about the rvsetup failing

[coral shoal]

i did see specifically this stack trace

assuming this is when you loaded in

[carmine topaz]

That error always happens

lol

[wide hull]

d-d-double patch...

[rich ice]

Utility Furniture 1.0.0

• Added buyable ability to move certain ship objects: charger coil, small screen above door panel, main speaker, and air filter.
• Migrated Item Furniture's aquarium to here.
• Set certain fire exit component to inactive when in orbit to combat frame drops when not landed (effectiveness untested).
• Changed fire exit type config to be more intuitive (and fixed incorrect labelling).

2-Story RV Cruiser 0.1.4

• Added extra setup step to try fix cruiser returning to vanilla variant on lobby reload (didn't repo issue normally, fix may be ineffective).
• Moved default seat exit positions to be inside the cruiser to combat breaking the sound barrier.
• Moved magnet position further out if monster truck tires are enabled, to prevent cannon impression.

@inner carbon I decided I would instead finally make certain ship parts moveable, though I also made this in Utility Furniture. Configurable to enable/disable. Haven't tested how well it works in multiplayer.
@wide hull I put aquarium in Utility Furniture 😀 but didn't get to moving the shelf and stuff 😢
@royal prawn I moved the exit positions to be on the seats like recommended, and also moved magnet further if monster tires are enabled
@coral shoal @carmine topaz no idea if I fixed reload thing at all

[royal prawn]

huzzah! thank you!

[carmine topaz]

I'll have to test how your moveable charger works compared to the GI one

[coral shoal]

interesting

[rich ice]

wait huh another thing already did that

[wide hull]

If it doesn't tint the room yellow I'll consider it a win

[rich ice]

what do you MEAN you don't want pee ambience

[floral ocean]

GI's one recreates the charger

in unity iirc

[rich ice]

oh

so what's Gl

or GI

[floral ocean]

General Improvements

[rich ice]

oh okay

[wide hull]

I just noticed earlier today that enabling it tinted my default white lighting slightly yellow

[rich ice]

should have been General Lmprovements

[floral ocean]

truly

you've gotten them mel

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-angrycat-orange-orangecat-gif-12955247756667881418

Moolanie Moolicious

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice I seem to be unable to copy the position for the moveable charger

in FurnitureLock

Idk if the others are bugged I will test soon

Okay well Screen0 works fine

But it floats off the wall when moving it I've noticed

Filter0 can't copy position

Speaker0 works fine

so the Charger and Filter are odd

and the screen needs a fix for it floating off of the wall

[royal prawn]

the exit in the seat fix seems to work beautifully, great job @rich ice. I have however discovered that, while getting out of the truck never causes physics wig-outs anymore, getting into a seat can still cause the truck to have a physics wig-out burst of particularly violent proportions... but only if you get into the seat from an angle where your player bounding box clips directly through the RV's cabin floor or back-end corner. Meaning, if you are rubbing up against the RV then get into a seat (ESPECIALLY for Monster Truck mode) or you get into a seat from a bit behind the cabin, you can pretty much make a physics wig-out burst happen 100% of the time guaranteed. Getting into a seat while a few feet away from it (or especially as far away as you can be while still reaching the E-prompt) will never cause a physics wig-out, because the player's center bounding box doesn't clip majorly through the RV's model.

This behavior got me thinking, now that getting out of seats is fixed, is it possible to make it such that when getting into a seat, the player is teleported perfectly parallel and level with the seat first, then teleported into where they should actually be positioned for sitting in it? If this is done in that order, the player bounding box center would never phase through the RV's collision model, and thus wouldn't cause physics wig-outs from getting into seats either.

The direct cause seems to be that when a player is transitioning from world collision with terrain to RV collision like standing in the back or being seated in the front cabin, the RV does NOT like this transitional period, and if the player's center mass touches the RV collision mesh during this transitional moment, the RV captures some of the frames and turns them into pure nitrogen propellant for each frame. This is why you can cause a minor wig-out, or a major one deliberately, based on the specific angle you got into a seat while standing on world terrain.

getting into a seat from riding in the back of the RV does not seem to cause any physics wig-outs. I suspect the reason is because the player's bounding box, while technically clipping very-much through the RV's model, is going from collision parenting to the RV to still collision parenting to the RV. It's only when going from world terrain or collision handled by anything but the RV to then having it handled by the RV that this transitional stage can cause physics wig-outs. It's also why wedging yourself under the RV in monster truck form, then jumping a bunch can cause minor physics wig-outs.

[coral shoal]

the easier fix to this would be to get it to emulate the base cruiser's weight

in that case it wouldn't be thrown around very much since it has the heft to prevent it from being tipped over by a simple push

[royal prawn]

oh also, the Cruiser Additions storage area light button was in the proper place for the RV monster truck, but in non-monster truck regular RV form, it was here, floating a bit away from the wall for some reason...

[solid reef]

hmm

does anyone have the vanilla values for this panel?

im ok with it floating i just want it back where it was

[wide hull]

not exaactly

[carmine topaz]

Why not just put it by the doorway?

[solid reef]

muscle memory

[wide hull]

1 sec I'm loading in atm

[solid reef]

usually i buy a wall as furniture and set it up where the panel is

[carmine topaz]

It's easy to adapt tbh if it's in roughly the same height lol

Ah

[wide hull]

-4.8, 4, -4.3

[solid reef]

ty!

oh i mean the vanilla position like where it usually is before applying the mod

[wide hull]

Personally I recommend the cozy -3.425, 2, -4.3

[carmine topaz]

I put mine here

[lament gorge]

So this was working in the 0.1.3 version for me, but now with the new update I'm having the same thing. Also I never use monster truck, just the 1 story RV cruiser.

Also ferangdalion totally bugs out the RV cruiser, makes it the vanilla one and bugs out the drop spot so it falls down the cliff. On top of that it bugs it in such a way that the game doesn't let you call in a new cruiser until you reload the lobby, always saying you already have a cruiser no matter how many different moons you go to without a cruiser. This second thing is probably a powerfullmoons thing tho. Notably I've been able to call in the RV cruiser successfully on all the other powerfull moons with 0.1.4

[solid reef]

i used to just move it with lethalpiperemoval but my game chugs now and apparently thats probably one of the reasons

[carmine topaz]

That's an issue with Ferangdalion tbh

Powerfull's moons touch the cruiser in odd ways

Idk why

Just don't buy Cruisers on them

[lament gorge]

ye I saw you mention that. Just tested and all the other powerfull maps seem good now tho

[carmine topaz]

I had bugs with buying one on Quasara

[carmine topaz]

That's a bit overkill mins it -3.2, 2, -4.3

-3.425 seems like such an odd specific value

XD

[lament gorge]

On the current version? Also what happened, just not the rv cruiser?

[wide hull]

Noooo it's off-center if you do that

[carmine topaz]

How?

it looks fine to me

[wide hull]

No no no, on mine with the ribbed-for-my-pleasure walls

[carmine topaz]

I think the only difference is yours is a bit closer to the arch lol

Oh yeah you don't have the fancy wall

that makes sense

[lament gorge]

Ah yes something is definitely occurring lmao. I was just testing buying the rv cruiser on powerfullmoons then leaving it, and now I've just bought one on experimentation and all the animations are off. So idk if it's powerfullmoons stuff carrying over, or what

storage light button floating too ofc

[carmine topaz]

Buying one on a Vanilla moon should fix it, that looks like the bug relating to holding some item before using the Cruiser

[wide hull]

It's beautiful \(; w ;)/

[solid reef]

i figured this would be the vanilla position but

what wild y rotation

[wide hull]

All the default stuff is weird like that

Like if you inspect the single screen wall monitor in unity explorer, it's actually rotated like -275.429 Z combined with -180 x or whatever to ultimately still be slightly slanted

[lament gorge]

Leaving experimentation and coming back to buy a new one did fix it, but I wasn't holding any items or doing anything before that happened. Literally just buying cruisers on different moons lol

oh button still floating tho

[inner carbon]

doing some testing now, and so far furniture lock can't copy the co-ordinates of screen0 and filter0 is invisible for some reason when I move it

gonna restart the game just to see if something can be finagled there

[carmine topaz]

For me Furniture Lock can copy Screen0 but Screen0 Floats, Filter0 and Charger0 can't be

[inner carbon]

interesting 🤔 also my filter finally spawned

[carmine topaz]

Filter0 isn't invisible though that is odd

[inner carbon]

what a strange thing

it was invisible until I reloaded it enough times from storage

reloaded and yeah the speaker disappeared again '-'

[carmine topaz]

You made me adjust the position of my door panel and Shutter Switch to be even with the default walls

Lol

[wide hull]

One of us One of us

[raw prawn]

do u still need this

[solid reef]

ye

[solid reef]

ty 💖

[carmine topaz]

Btw @rich ice Long standing bug that could use a fix, when using ShipWindows and ship colors the floor color can't properly be changed

can be done properly if ShipWindows isn't present but not when it is present

[carmine topaz]

-3.422 makes it perfectly centered inbetween the doorway and the pole btw

I noticed it was slightly uneven when trying your value and it bothered me lol

I still see it being slightly more towards the door actually lemme just try -3.42 rq

[carmine topaz]

Finally perfected it, -3.418 god OCD is a bitch 😅

[native cape]

I hope you also tested ShipWindows standalone

[rich ice]

okay, I realize the attempted fix for cruiser changing to vanilla on reload might have also messed up the previous compat for Cruiser Additions, resulting in floating switch again. If anybody who was able to see the issue tested it, did it fix that? If not, I can remove the attempted fix entirely

I like the nuclear ballistics tests for the cruiser. I'll uh, see what I can do about it launching when seating at a certain angle.

Crazy what a moon can do to the cruiser 😢

I'll try add vanilla panel coords in mod description at some point I guess.
And I'll try see about why ship colors can't change the floor when using ShipWindows.

And I'll have to try figure out what's happening with moveable ship parts being invisible sometimes, and being funky with furniture lock. BUT there's a chance if another mod reparents those parts, that's the reason it fails. I'll also say that putting it in storage will probably make things disappear most of the time. I was supposed to uh, prevent that from being allowed.

[jolly mauve]

Is there any way to disable the "Left" Part of the Wider ship mod when paired with the 2 story ship mod.

I've fiddled with the configs for windows, each sides, walls, etc and no matter what it applies both sides of the wider ship mod when I would just like the right side with the 2nd floor. Anything I might be doing wrong or is it just not possible.

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-yapping-cat-meme-talking-cat-but-here's-the-cat-gif-9329473824949809305

Yapanie yaplicious

[brisk widget]

there is

disable wider ship

[torpid fiber]

Deprecate wider ship

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26069546

[junior rose]

i swear like 99% of the current big mods out there would end up deprecated if people actually listened to jokes about deprecations

[torpid fiber]

Mu

[junior rose]

Hi rodrigo

[torpid fiber]

First time talking today

How youve been

[junior rose]

Yes indeed

[jolly mauve]

Right but with 2-story enabled, I have this little corner area plus the door, I'd also like to have the second story but not with the space on the left that is just big and empty

[junior rose]

I've been great rodrigo thanks for asking

how about you

[torpid fiber]

grow any hair yet?

[junior rose]

Have been growing hair my entire life and haven't stopped

[torpid fiber]

@brisk widget

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-angrycat-orange-orangecat-gif-12955247756667881418

[junior rose]

Idk why you keep insinuating that I lack hair

[torpid fiber]

Because glitch is too busy doing other things

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[junior rose]

Oh so because the actually bald person isn't about you turn against me, an innocent little mu, and spread unfounded lies and deceit about my physical appearance

How dare\

[brisk widget]

thats because you are bald

[torpid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290344988311425167/1301246932068339754/togif-33.gif

[brisk widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863549490321293315/1276600713648013382/twitter_1822629254989017396.gif

[torpid fiber]

Nothing personal

Its just business

Baldness...

[junior rose]

I'm not though!!! D:

[brisk widget]

prove it

[floral ocean]

I dont have Internet but mu mu mu

[junior rose]

Hi xu

[torpid fiber]

xuimama

[junior rose]

I would love to prove it but I'd rather not send a photo of my face

[torpid fiber]

You have a face?

[junior rose]

Also someone's just gonna edit my hair out anyway

[brisk widget]

wdym edit

[torpid fiber]

I thought you wore a mask because no face

[junior rose]

In lethal company

I have a face irl

[torpid fiber]

Whats irl?

[junior rose]

in real life

[torpid fiber]

Lethal is real though...

[junior rose]

real means things you can see touch feel taste etc.

[brisk widget]

whats real

[junior rose]

Holy shit read

Life means not dead

[torpid fiber]

I dont need to taste your lack of hair

[junior rose]

But I have hair!!!

you're right though hair doesn't taste very good

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[torpid fiber]

Fomu ill eat your hair

[brisk widget]

good

I recently got my hair cut and have nowhere to put the hair I cut off

[junior rose]

bald

[torpid fiber]

Baldmo...

[brisk widget]

I'm so sorry, I hope your hair grows back

[junior rose]

DON'T YOU TURN THIS BACK ON ME

[brisk widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054684943336349716/1307421730997928027/caption.gif

[junior rose]

I ALREADY SENT LOGS

[torpid fiber]

What goes around comes around

[brisk widget]

so did it really happen that you lost your hair?

damn

[junior rose]

No

I sent logs once that proved I wasn't bald

Lemme find them

[brisk widget]

what is this text

write better, i cant read this book

[junior rose]

It's a fucking log fumo

[brisk widget]

its not

[junior rose]

Not even a full one I cut it off at the relevant part

[brisk widget]

its message txt

[junior rose]

oh, mobile

hang on

[brisk widget]

your writing skills haven't improved, smh

[junior rose]

what

[brisk widget]

im tired

[junior rose]

go to sleep

[brisk widget]

you win this time

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1113547997163294831/1152276989953200208/togif-5.gif

[junior rose]

Yaaaay! :D

cute cat

wasn't expecting it

🐇

[brisk widget]

he also didn't expect that you were bald

[junior rose]

god damn it

[junior rose]

what does planned mean

is it like keikaku

[brisk widget]

I'm not familiar with reddit and death note subreddit either so no idead whats you talkin about

[floral ocean]

I'm tempted to respond to this in the xu way

[junior rose]

it's just japanese for plan

I'm pre sure there was an old fansub of this that went "all according to keikaku" and explained that it was japanese for plan in a translator note

Idk why that was idk death note much either

[junior rose]

...define "the xu way"

[torpid fiber]

The xu way

[brisk widget]

ic, I just googled it and reddit came up with the first link

[torpid fiber]

[floral ocean]

The xu way is very forward

[junior rose]

what's forward

(i'm at least half-joking when i say this)

[floral ocean]

Mu if I answer this I'll get banned

Anyway grg

Gtg

[junior rose]

Uh\

[torpid fiber]

Half joking just like when you say you arent bald

[junior rose]

Okay

Bye xu

[junior rose]

No I'm fully serious when I say that

[torpid fiber]

Haha another funny mu joke

[junior rose]

I was serious with that too

[torpid fiber]

Classic mu

[junior rose]

I have hair

[torpid fiber]

Always a jokester

[junior rose]

It came free with my fucking scalp

[torpid fiber]

No you dont, you have the oldest scalp known to man

[junior rose]

I HAVE HAIR

[torpid fiber]

@willow nexus

Need you to confirm this

Did you lose the game?

[junior rose]

I GOT MY SCALP DAY 1 OF MY FUCKING EXISTENCE

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/corn-silly-porcupine-eat-gif-532232702216691501

Nuh

[junior rose]

well uh

[torpid fiber]

Uh

[junior rose]

i can confirm that i did

Thanks rodrigo

[torpid fiber]

Youre welcome baldy

[willow nexus]

never

[junior rose]

Stop calling me that

[torpid fiber]

[junior rose]

Lies and deception

you just did

:3

[willow nexus]

nuh uh

[junior rose]

Yuh uh

[torpid fiber]

Yuh uh

[willow nexus]

uhm

[torpid fiber]

Its 2 against 1

[willow nexus]

nuh uh

[junior rose]

Yuh uh

[torpid fiber]

Yuh uh

[willow nexus]

i just won

[junior rose]

There is no winning the game

Only losing

[torpid fiber]

Yeah you won the most game loses

[willow nexus]

I did cuz now you guys are on the same side

jokes on you both

I lost but at what cost

[junior rose]

Wait until he calls me bald again

[torpid fiber]

Shes still bald

[willow nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250

^also Mu right now

[junior rose]

On second thought yes s1ck won the game

I'm not bald

[willow nexus]

[torpid fiber]

Then you both lost the game

.

[junior rose]

Nuh uh

[willow nexus]

Nuh uh

you lost it Rigo

[junior rose]

Everyone lurking and witnessing this conversation lost

[torpid fiber]

The dot signifies the end of the paragraph, thisnis the end of this novel

[junior rose]

except us we're built different

[torpid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220098297541431296/1343781559576297472/caption-8.gif

[willow nexus]

never seen an emoji in a novel

[torpid fiber]

Yeah you guys are built different, both no hair

[brisk widget]

I like how we just clutter up this thread

[junior rose]

I'm not bald tho and I doubt s1ck is also

[torpid fiber]

Its mels thread its fine

[junior rose]

This seems to be common in a lot of these big mod threads

[willow nexus]

[junior rose]

hi xu

[willow nexus]

oh no Bald Xu

[torpid fiber]

Snarky xu

[floral ocean]

I have no idea where I am

[willow nexus]

[junior rose]

Actually yeah what the fuck is this

where are you

[floral ocean]

Well there was a small chance David Tennant would be here

[junior rose]

ik you just said you didn't know

[floral ocean]

I'm going on TV though I think

[torpid fiber]

On my way

[junior rose]

oh like that one guy who was doctor who once that people really liked

Yeah fair enough you enjoy your time

[floral ocean]

Yes

They played apt

Now playing that's that me espresso

[torpid fiber]

Xu overworks me and then goes out to party 😔

[junior rose]

for once I'm not under a rock and know what those songs are

[torpid fiber]

Is the rock to hide something

[junior rose]

Not to hide my lack of hair

which is to say

I don't hide that

Because I have hair

And it'd be stupid to try to compensate for a problem I don't have

I'm good at phrasing guys I swear

[junior rose]

anyway yes this is wildly off-topic we need to talk about 2 story ships, utility furniture, farming, cooking and other melaniemelicious mods

I think the bigger ship is very cool

same with the utility furniture

I like having fancy cupboards and storage thingies

[rich ice]

the aliens are shooting lasers at everybody, and they're all oblivious

[rich ice]

also uh, sorry, I didn't add compat for disabling left and right sides yet, so only normal Wider Ship can do that atm

[jolly mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-gif-21131244

Thanks

[lament gorge]

Can confirm the previous patch had fixed the button, and now it's floating again always. But also the previous patch was giving me default cruisers on some moons, and now only ferangdalion. Tbh getting the right cruiser is much more important than the floating button if they're mutually exclusive.

[torpid fiber]

Next youre gonna say blue ghosts with no legs are real...

Conspiracie Suspicious

[copper sage]

even if they did, not like theyd be made into marketable plushies

[carmine topaz]

Well the issue is the entries for changing the floor colors don't show up under MelanieShip when ShipWindows is present but they do when it's not

I don't care enough to test the vanilla ship ngl

[lament gorge]

Also I'm not sure if it's RV cruiser, but I've noticed the ship horn doesn't work anymore, and the cruiser uses the ship horn sound.

[rich ice]

okay, really good info there that it seems it might have at least fixed other moons. This just means I have to adjust the attempted fix a little to still exist, but also allow it to move the button again

also, I don't really touch anything with the ship or car horn, so I doubt the RV is breaking it. But also, I haven't tested the ship horn with only the RV cruiser mod as of right now

[rich ice]

baby changes

2-Story Ship 1.1.3

• Fixed both ShipColors compat for floors when ship windows is and isn't enabled (tested once).

2-Story RV Cruiser 0.1.5

• Added config to change RV mass (default is double the old mass).
• Changed a previously step to fix Cruiser Additions compatibility.

@carmine topaz this should fix the floor colors with Ship Colors.
@royal prawn @coral shoal I added config to change the mass of the cruiser to whatever you want so people can decide if they want cannon or heavy glass push door
@lament gorge @royal prawn this should maintain the previous fix while also re-fixing the cruiser light switch position.

[royal prawn]

yay, more ballistics tests! ty @rich ice 😄

[coral shoal]

awesome, i will try it soon

[kindred steeple]

the ship doesnt appear on the internal ship camera

(using 2 story and wider ship, it works with only wider ship though)

[raw prawn]

@junior rose relevant to u too ithink

[junior rose]

YIPPEE

[raw prawn]

on the downside I think 1.1.3 broke Ship Styles for the floor game is trolling me

[brisk widget]

haha mel you messed up layers

[coral shoal]

i think this fixed my critique about it being too easy to push finally. and now it has the added feeling of being slower to pick up speed (which i think fits, since it is bigger than a normal cruiser)

[torpid fiber]

post the laughing cat

[brisk widget]

right

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[rich ice]

quoppers win 😔

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[kindred steeple]

could i get a ping when this is fixed pls :3

[torpid fiber]

you heard them mel, a ping each second until its released

[kindred steeple]

uh oh

[rich ice]

that's the weird thing, the custom ships and its components are also on the room layer, the same one as the vanilla ship

[brisk widget]

hmm

then its just that cam ig

even radar shows the ship

actually what about material?

doubt it but still

[rich ice]

for default materials, I have them finding the vanilla ship's materials. For custom materials, give me a sec to get a confirmed answer because building a test bundle, but they should be HDRP/Lit

[brisk widget]

yeah kinda same

[rich ice]

I have LoD on my ship, but besides some people seeing railings disappear at a certain distance, then unless camera is considered super far or something else, idk why it would cull it. But I'm testing removing LoD to see if it's different

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[rich ice]

yeah okay, it was LoD, so camera is pretending to be far away I guess

[torpid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275719607809736705/1348849602157346836/pokes-you.gif

[lament gorge]

Sorry the horn thing was a false report mb, idk what is causing that yet....

Also regarding the double mass - is that the mass for the 0.1.4 ver? bc that was working well for me

[jovial loom]

Hey, so me and my friend were playing with the utility furniture mod and after the update my friend cant enter ANY fire exit on the map(disabling the fireexit in options helped) i can enter every fire exit but sometimes they mix up and when entering the fireexit from inside of the facility it suddenly changes itself to the one on the ship

[coral shoal]

it is now configurable, if you liked how it was before change it to 200 in config

[quaint oxide]

uhm, hello!
Is this intended in the latest update?

[raw prawn]

no

might be able to do cache clearing to fix it

way I fixed it was making a new profile which is not really ideal lol

[royal prawn]

the set mass config for the RV seems to be utterly useless in preventing physics wig-outs. I tested it at 400, 800, 1600, and 40000 mass, yet entering the passenger seat from a close-up angle still made the RV flip into the sky every single time to the same exact degree it always did.

either the config is not actually functioning at all, or what causes the physics wig-outs is in no way impeded by the RV's mass.

Since the only real issue I have found that causes consistent physic wig-outs is getting into seats, would an even easier quickfix perhaps be to disable a player's collision to the RV immediately as they get into a seat such that when they zip into place, their bound box isn't even sending physics data to the RV collision mesh at all? Then simply re-enable their collision immediately as they get out of the seat?

[carmine topaz]

Try clearing unused cache

[quaint oxide]

uhm, clearing cache makes the things worse

[carmine topaz]

I've had no issues this is so strange

[quaint oxide]

I'm resetting both 2storyship and shipwindows config

[carmine topaz]

Yeah possible it's that

Btw props to Mel for implementing the position for the charger I had set up in GI natively in the new update I noticed it unintentionally cus I disabled the placeable charger in GI when doing some tests that she copy pasted it :3 I'm happy to no longer see it clipping into the wall

Fixed version

Then here was mine, I did a test to see if she copied it and the scan nodes do indeed overlap lol

I don't mind, I'm happy I could help

[quaint oxide]

hey lunx, Do you use normal Shipwindows or the beta?

[carmine topaz]

Beta

However I use Furniture Lock to unlock the shutter switch and not the ShipWindows config

[quaint oxide]

yeah, I'm using normal, maybe that's the issue

[carmine topaz]

Oh probably

[quaint oxide]

maybe now it's not compatible with the normal version?

cuz it was in the latest version

[carmine topaz]

Probably cus normal ShipWindows had some weird janky compat done for ShipColors

and Beta doesn't have that

[quaint oxide]

yeah, but it was working perfectly before the last 2story ship update

I'm testing the beta version rn

[quaint oxide]

nope, floor still present...

I have floor windows disabled but it still there

so strange

I'm deleting widership config jic

[carmine topaz]

Try changing the floor to something else and back maybe?

[quaint oxide]

in shipcolors?

I don't know how to do that

I've only changed visibility on some items

[carmine topaz]

In Mel's config

[carmine topaz]

I wonder if that is it

Maybe the new floor changes have a different visibility

[quaint oxide]

hmm

so the defaults were changed?

[carmine topaz]

MetalTile is the vanilla floor

I found a funny

Lmao

@rich ice

[royal prawn]

update: the mass config IS definitely working, setting the mass to 400,000 makes the cruiser totally undrivable because it can barely move up a 5-degree incline and has its revving motor sound looping endlessly, thinking it is traveling at high speeds due to the crazy weight value. Seems mass just simply is not any kind of solution for physics wig-outs caused by player bounding boxes transitioning from world collision to RV collision during brief frames of movement

[royal prawn]

also can confirm, Cruiser Additions storage light button is back in correct place for both RV and RV monster truck

[zealous crescent]

Did you figure out a solution? I'm having the same issue. I've tried resetting all three configs, disabling/enabling the floor windows nothing seems to work. Also the floor material configs seem completely messed up too. I ended up just giving up and downgrading to the previous version of 2 story ship.

[carmine topaz]

I think it's just bugged right now, unsure why it's mostly working okay for me but I'm sure Mel will fix it later

[rich ice]

I didn't copy paste anything, I just moved it slightly forward

[carmine topaz]

Ah lol, well good job on getting it in almost the exact spot 🥰

I approve

It was a pleasant surprise when it felt like it hadn't even moved from where I had it

XD

[rich ice]

really dunno what's happening with the materials suddenly all being hulls, so now I gotta find out what's happening

[carmine topaz]

Yeah it's strange, it probably relates to what you mentioned in my Twitch chat yesterday

[rich ice]

but that's only if I can repo the issue

I managed to repo on non-beta ship windows, but it only showed up after I changed the floor material AND didn't have the floor window unlocked

[carmine topaz]

Yeah idk why Moroxide was consisntently reproing it regardless, Endox also somehow reprod it with my pack but as you saw I didn't on stream but I did notice that oddity with the roof which is where I'm guessing you plan to add support for the Roof Window in ShipWindows Beta

[raw prawn]

It wasnt w ur pack

[carmine topaz]

Ah well you said it was with my configs at least

[raw prawn]

Yeah it was

(I don’t need 200 mods just to mess around with ShipColors)

[rich ice]

okay, seems like I fixed it, there was just a couple things missing after the changes made to fix color changes. But to fix the roof windows, I have to do the entire Unity thing, so I'll just do that rq then update

[rich ice]

okay, this sounds like a bit of an uh oh. I might have to just revert the fire exit changes that seems like is causing this, for now

[rich ice]

2-Story Ship 1.1.4

• Changed Wider 2-Story Ship Windows Beta roof window size (temporarily hid roof window shutters.
• Fixed material config mismatch caused in previous patch.'
• Fixed material mismatch where Ship Windows Beta roof window is located, when not present.

Utility Furniture 1.0.1

• Potential fix for multiplayer fire exit bug when using buyable ship fire exit (untested multiplayer).
• Slightly adjusted moveable Screen0 position.

wait a minute, editing messages to add pings doesn't do anything

didn't touch camera thing yet, wasn't sure if mostly obscure ship camera visuals was worth potentially better performance when away from ship, so no ping 😦
@raw prawn @carmine topaz @quaint oxide @zealous crescent this should fix material mismatch issues.
@carmine topaz this should move Screen0 back a small bit.
@jovial loom I haven't tested this on multiplayer yet, but I applied an attempted fix. If this still doesn't work, I'll revert all fire exit changes entirely to when they did work fine

[rich ice]

I never got to repo this issue yet, so unsure how common it is in normal gameplay. I could try see about doing a temporary collision disabling, soon

[quaint oxide]

Thanks, I'll make a look

[wide hull]

Yeah it was **slightly off-center when I went take a screenshot for you so I angled slightly. I have adhd and I'm constantly forgetting my "to-do" list when I load up and start a new save to test stuff. (; w ;)
"oh dangit I forgot the panel! >:E" x99

[quaint oxide]

okay so...
The floor got fixed, and thank you with that :]

But I'm seeing that the windows floor, even if deactivated, an outline is generated

[rich ice]

🥺

okay, I guess I'll apply a slightly different solution, which should fix it

[royal prawn]

To repo it, simply press up against the RV on the right side next to passenger seat, then look up a bit to enter said passenger seat while as close as possible to it but still standing on the ground outside the cabin. It will cause a physics wig-out 100% of the time, no matter the mass of the RV. Monster Truck form exacerbates the issue drastically due to the harsher angle from player to seated position.

[quaint oxide]

It's not a huge issue really, the only thing is that the texture layout vary when it's inside and outside the ouline, here are the lines as an example

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[wide hull]

You bastard, now I also see it!

[lapis verge]

@rich ice the light switch not moving and the cruiser not being the rv (before 0.1.4/0.1.5) are from the above vanilla error which makes any postfixes of VehicleController Start not be called

the error is random so sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt (in 0.1.5)

[native cape]

Aaah, what did you do, Mel?

[quaint oxide]

Uhm, hello!

[torpid fiber]

bye

[quaint oxide]

I've got a report from a friend and... I have a slight suspect that it's this mod and/or the shipwindows mod.

[floral ocean]

goodbye

[torpid fiber]

slow

[floral ocean]

[quaint oxide]

Here is the video of the issue.

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jVMhMrdK8Q98u55tw?invite=cr-MSxzbHcsMzUxMjgzMDg0

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/the-weak-should-fear-the-strong-cat-the-weak-should-fear-the-strong-cat-the-weak-should-fear-the-strong-gif-9908234591166092966

[unique tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

[raw prawn]

is this the fabled

[quaint oxide]

Wat!

But I don't have MoreCupboards

[raw prawn]

heartbreaking, I know

I can imagine unrelated though

iirc should just be where the original would be if 2ss + wider

[coral shoal]

actually just got this issue with one of my friends tonight

didn't have morecupboards, wider ship, or 2 story ship installed

[modern grove]

They fell into the Backrooms XD

[coral shoal]

real

he mustve found the monster right away though

cus he died

[maiden basin]

request for RV cruiser. when monster truck tires are enabled, the back will have a ladder to climb to get inside. (maybe we are skill issue or that the truck is too high to climb only by jumping)

[fervent robin]

Idk if this was mentioned but rain goes right through the ship atm

[ebon ledge]

fog does as well, though that isnt just a two story ship problem

[fervent robin]

really? huh

[wide hull]

it's a g-g-g-ghost ship!

[floral ocean]

A Mel emote?

[wide hull]

Made it just for that xD

[floral ocean]

Lol

[rich ice]

WHAT a SAD MELANIE emote

maybe that's why they call me blue

[cloud panther]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

Flashbacks

[rich ice]

uh 😭
no idea what's happening here (or why), and if it could be 2SS or another mod, or which it would be. Never had a report for this before? But hmm, is there an easy way to repo this bug? Any logs, and potentially a mod profile code?

[wide hull]

Were they french? Because I think sacre bleu means something like holy cow...

[rich ice]

oh yeah, wanted to add some sort of steps to assist getting up, at some point. It shouldn't be hard, I just didn't do it yet 😀

[quaint oxide]

I wanna try to reproduce this, but I get more confused over time

Some says it is moreCupboards mod (I don't have that mod).

Lunx told me it's CruiserImproved when someone late-joins when a player is holding scrap in the ship

[rich ice]

if it has nothing to do with colliders and layers, I'd have to find which part affects the rain, to fix that

[rich ice]

but I think I know which part does the fog, so I can probably fix that next time

[quaint oxide]

I think it's something related to the Cupboard, but I'm not sure :']

[rich ice]

that's huh, I wonder why and how that happens, if that's a thing that actually occurs

[fervent robin]

I haven't gotten any of the other issues reported here so it might be a separate thing

[quaint oxide]

My friend gave me the logs in case someone can help :']

this was spamming when it happened

[carmine topaz]

Cruiser Improved sets up rigid bodies for the scraps on client join so when someone is holding a scrap it sometimes causes issues

cus it fails to register that scrap, then if that scrap gets placed in a cupboard the client gets Infinity or Nan spam and falls through the world

Lol

[brisk widget]

its Medal

[quaint oxide]

wat.

[brisk widget]

program for clips

[brisk widget]

as far as i can remember at least*

[quaint oxide]

oh, so the log of this it's the recorder app

[fervent robin]

mhm

medal spams your logs with that

no way around that, afaik

even if you turn info logs off

[rich ice]

it's okay, I can paste that into the logs you sent to make you feel better

[quaint oxide]

lol

I don't think medal causes the floor non collisionable

but that'd be funny

[royal prawn]

when you do, don't forget to add some lil metal cylinders angled at a slant to connect the giant tires to the under-body so they don't look like they're floating so blatantly anymore

[copper sage]

it's fine as is

theyre supported by ghost magic

[rich ice]

so little you won't see them, got it

[copper sage]

🙂

[maiden basin]

Is this ok to ignore? I'm using furniture lock mod to unlock on start

[rich ice]

oh, oops, I kept the test logging. It's not actually an error, I just made it do that so the text was red and easier to find faster

for the second part. The first part, that can pretty much be ignored. Just has to do with how I'm reparenting, but shouldn't be causing issues in this case

[rich ice]

2-Story RV Cruiser 0.2.0

• Added steps and assist to back of cruiser.
• Added extended suspension when using monster truck tires are enabled.
• Added previously test bottom trimming because I didn't remove it when bundling this update.
• Changed default mass config to 200 (normal mass default).

Trimming was from a thing I was doing, and since I left it there from a couple months ago and haven't touched it, it was the model I had to edit to add the steps and stuff.
@maiden basin hopefully those steps help getting into the back of the cruiser.
@royal prawn I added the little extension so monster wheels don't show you a magic trick, but didn't touch player collision when entering at an angle 😦

[royal prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dentist-excited-nemo-gif-8333235

thank yoooou, the physics wig-outs can be avoided by just entering the seat parallel and dead-on, so imo reasonable workaround. tbh I was more looking forward to no more floating tires anyway 😄

[copper sage]

now we just need the eject button to launch you thru the ceiling

(half joke; indifferent either way)

[torpid fiber]

we need mels rv cooking mod

with a chemistry set

for cooking blue rocks

[supple mantle]

breaking company

[wide hull]

all crystals are blue if you look at them through Mel

[rich ice]

all the crystals are sad 😢

[floral ocean]

mel is the happiest person i know

not possible

[royal prawn]

the monster truck tires (according to the additional undercarriage extensions) are not properly aligned with where they should be, it seems. The back tires need to be about a foot or or so back

the front right tire seems to be sticking noticeably farther away from the chasis than the front left tire for some reason

which is also most noticeable with the undercarriage extensions touching the front left tire but not the right

not trying to be nitpicky, but I am only bringing this up because I am curious if it would alter how the monster truck RV would handle. I cannot actually tell if the wheels are misaligned with each other, but if they were... would that theoretically make certain turn directions more difficult or something?

also, the little shelf at the back front wall of the storage that the clipboard spawns resting on doesn't actually have collision like it does in the normal company cruiser. This means players cannot step up on it and crouch to see a straight view out of the storage-to-cabin window, which zeekerss was quite particular about lining up so that that was possible. Could we have that collision on that specific front shelf restored? as it stands, standing here makes you too tall to see out of the storage-to-cabin window, but crouching makes you too short to see out of it either

[rich ice]

oh, uh oh, I got rid of that step up. That should be easy enough to re-add though

I'll look at the wheels more precisely soon, just kind of rushed and started the update shortly before it was released

[royal prawn]

no worries, thanks so much for maintaining this, it's such a great part of my modpack lol

[rich ice]

😀 thanks for the suggestions and everything, since they help motivate and tell me changes or things that'd be nice to add

also yeahh, it's definitely nice since the cruiser is almost like a mini ship to spend time on

[royal prawn]

oh yeah definitely, gives that much more value to cruiser-mandatory moons, makes doing pickups and big scrap hauls more fun and approachable

[lament gorge]

Idk if this is just me loading in an old save with the updated mod, but the bit under the cabin is invisible from below

[rich ice]

uhhhh

it might be; I never saw that myself, and I think sharktemplar would've seen and reported it. But even then, idk why it would do that for an old save in this case. I'll see if I can repo it using pre-update saves

[torpid fiber]

damn mel i though you hid- i mean fixed that

[lament gorge]

No worries! Also would it be possible in a future update to get item storage shelves up here as well? It seems like such a cozy lil spot for a shotgun, but I could see items getting stuck up here lol. Tysm for all you do.

[coral shoal]

mini smart cupboard in the top

[lament gorge]

connected via 1000 lines of code that break under the slightest weather change

[coral shoal]

oh yes for sure

does not work in cloudy or blackout

[royal prawn]

I didn't see it because I didn't even think to look up, lol. It is in fact invisible in the underside

[rich ice]

yeah, I should be able to do that. And since you can stick your head through the ceiling at the front driver and passenger seat, there'd be access on both sides, too

[rich ice]

also, yeah, I just checked normally on a new save, and yeah, turns out I left the model from a couple months ago unfinished in that spot, and I misread Geist's report thinking it was the whole bottom missing. I never checked that specific spot, my bad

[lament gorge]

Another win for the perfect map - experimentation 💯 (I only saw the bottom issue bc the ship is so far off the ground lol)

By the way, would you consider adding a config option to have the old (pre this update) cruiser mesh? I get it if not if you don't want to maintain all these different versions, monster trucks, two stories, etc. etc. it's a lot!

But at least for me as a non-monster truck 1-story boy myself, I liked the less thicc look.

[light ember]

what mod is that?

[honest ledge]

2 story RV cruiser something something

[rich ice]

that should be easy since I usually make these things modular (instead of ship 1, or ship 2, or ship 3, it's ship + 1, or ship + 1 + 2, or ship + 2, etc.)

[lament gorge]

That's what I was hoping you'd say lol. It would be awesome if stuff could be made configs.

[inner carbon]

I tried moving the screen again, and I'm still getting this gap \o/

however, if I do it on the opposing wall...

unless it's the framing on the back that's forcing it to jut out, in which case, leeeethaaaaaal '-'

furniture lock still can't log the location correctly, though, for some reason

[rich ice]

maybe I just didn't move it back enough...

If you have logs enabled, you can for now, temporary solution, copy the coordinates it says is saved, then find which axis to move back a little. No idea why FurnitureLock can't copy, though, since I made them the same way I make normal furniture. But thinking back, the reparenting had a network object issue that might be preventing it from being tracked by Furniture Lock the same way?

[inner carbon]

I know the exact position I want via where lethalpiperemoval has placed it, it just can't do anything with furniture lock for some reason, but relatively speaking the logs dictate this is the relative limit - and because furniture lock isn't complying, it won't snap to the location and instead flies all over the place

as you can see for some reason, lmao

[royal prawn]

@rich ice it seems only the host can cause a physics wig-out with the monster truck RV, a non-host client entering seats at close-up angles or rubbing around underneath the chasis doesn't cause any physics wig-outs at all. Very interesting behavior...

[carmine topaz]

This is normal, the physics wig outs with the Cruiser has always been a host only bug they happen with the Vanilla one too

[royal prawn]

oh okay

[kindred steeple]

with wider ship and 2 story ship a old bird managed to walk inside the ship AND get up the stairs

it flew up and fell through the ceiling to land inside

[barren vine]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mattymatty/FurnitureLock/changelog/

furniture lock did not like the screen having a rotation of 0, 0, 0 ( aka. Vector3.zero, aka. default )😅

v1.4.2 should allow you to copy the values correctly

[rich ice]

thanks, had no idea what was happening

2-Story RV Cruiser 0.2.1

• Added config to enable extra bottom trimming.
• Added step-up collider to see out peek hole at the front of back of the cruiser.
• Fixed missing face underneath cruiser.

@royal prawn this should re-add the step-up collider to look out that window. I didn't look at the tires before uploading 😭
@lament gorge this should fix the underneath section being missing, and add a config for the bottom trimming. Oops, I missed adding the shelf 😭

maybe I'll do another small patch in a bit. I only delayed because I was doing other things for a couple days

[royal prawn]

thanks Melicious

[lament gorge]

Thank youu! Oh by the way would you be able to make the stairs at the back configurable as well? 👉👈

Assuming it's not included with the trim config ofc lol

[wide hull]

Did these always lack collision and I've just never noticed, or did something change?

[brisk widget]

yeah, always

[wide hull]

WOAH

So fast ._.

[brisk widget]

[wide hull]

t-thank you for your expeditious assistance

[maiden basin]

small thing 😅

[wide hull]

Does 2SS disable parts of the ship in orbit or is it something else?

[wide hull]

oohhhh you cheeky ghost, now I know why "visible" layers are still invisible... MEL! You set their scale to 0 0 0 !

[floral ocean]

visible layers?

[wide hull]

the ship posters aren't disabled, they're just set to the size 0

[rich ice]

I like this wording

[rich ice]

CLEARLY the RV glass pigments severely affect the mass of the cruiser

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, I did that a while back to try get around Ship Windows replacing the posters every time they were set to inactive

[wide hull]

Meeeeellll, everything auto-destruct when I try to enable it in orbit

[torpid fiber]

Meeeeelll everything auto-destruct

Always

[floral ocean]

lol

[torpid fiber]

Please hide all errors

[floral ocean]

that's funny

[torpid fiber]

How Melanie codes

[wide hull]

She also made it so a bunch of stuff is auto-disabled in orbit? If you enable it it auto-suicides. They only show up when you land

[wide hull]

Mel, what the heck dayo? You are forcing us to render side machinery?

[rich ice]

yeah, there's a lot of things I just disabled bc I didn't feel like moving them at the time. It's a lot easier now, I just didn't do it. I mean, fun fact, I didn't even plan to mod publicly, I started wanting a private mod, and came into this knowing almost nothing

[rich ice]

that's vanilla

[wide hull]

wtf

[coral shoal]

melothy working on 5 story ship:

[rich ice]

6, take it or leave it

[torpid fiber]

Wheres my 50 story ship melody

With an elevator

[copper sage]

isnt there a limit to how far items/furniture can be outside of the ship before resetting back to 0,0,0 upon file reload?

[rich ice]

oh also I never asked what parts you meant. Some parts are disabled by vanilla. I only disabled stuff like the vent entrance, and a couple alarm lights and stuff.

but seeing you said in orbit, that's probably the stuff disabled by vanilla. Vanilla disables stuff in orbit, enables them on land

@brisk widget I think I'm starting to get what you experienced

[brisk widget]

hm?

[rich ice]

I'm getting reports for vanilla 😭

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[wide hull]

Oh yeah it was the stuff like the outside ladder/outside machine side panel junk that would ignore my visibility settings. I do eventually want to make a mod that turns the vent/posters/alarm lights/suits+rack/desks+wall monitors in to moveable furniture though >:3

unlimited decor works

[torpid fiber]

melanie melicious

stop typing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cheese-throw-cute-sleepy-cat-gif-20993186

[rich ice]

ooh, well, since I already have the stuff for that setup in Utility Furniture, it's also easy for me to just add the rest of the stuff. I mostly didn't because uh, I just didn't 😀 and also since some things I knew were disabled in 2-Story, and wanted to re-enable them there before adding them, so I wouldn't get reports.

Some things might have issues though, like the desk lever and the suits on the rack. And then posters are actually just one model, so they'd have to be done differently with new models and taking the original poster textures. Some things might also just need to be networked with the parenting, which I'm not doing atm

[torpid fiber]

we all know you cant write

[rich ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238315779787849848/1279083446366371900/caption-6.gif?ex=67e55ec9&is=67e40d49&hm=5fd198c2047d81615010ddb2f7f786caba056c62c29ddf1796407099cec0fb06&

[torpid fiber]

you cannot silence me

you may have stolen fumos voice

but i wont let you take mine

[rich ice]

sorry I can't hear you

[torpid fiber]

precisely

all according to plan

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

@brisk widget go scarab

destroy

while shes weak

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[wide hull]

I humbly accept your generousity

[lament gorge]

Politely reiterating this one hehe

Step-up collider to look out the lil window is epic btw, reminds me of that what is love meme

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-what-is-love-meme-loop-gif-7181564581532448552

[lament gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-fook-me-that-was-fast-gif-12873066

[maiden basin]

those have no colliders?

[rich ice]

shit 😭

[maiden basin]

what is that thing called?

[oak chasm]

Lamp

[maiden basin]

thanks!

one more thing. If I want it to be invisible in ShipColors config, where should I look?

[raw prawn]

Add layer 24 to the accepted layers and they'll be labeled as Light, Light (1), Light (2), Light (3)

[languid agate]

does anyone else also have this hole in the second story window?

[rich ice]

shiet

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[maiden basin]

oh no the space is leaking-

[carmine topaz]

Lol haven't seen it on my end but that's probably cus I have the mansion borders for the windows

[wide hull]

Sorry if this is already answered but your post is where Discord opened. The unity name for those objects are Light, Light1, Light2, and Light3 (each with the subname RedLight)

[wide hull]

I don't use the floor window but I decided to try it out. The glass panel doesn't fit the shape of the hole and there's no black frame like the ones on the walls.

[raw prawn]

hole is for shipwindows beta

[wide hull]

3rd floor's glass panel seems to be correctly sized but no frame.

(not sure what is correct or incorrect)

[rich ice]

yeah, I moved to shipwindowsbeta compat, but then turns out I messed up normal compat a little, so I gotta adjust something to fix that (should be easy). My bad.

Third floor, by frame, do you mean like the glass? I recall it being weirdly hard to see, but it should still be there

[wide hull]

I'm using ShipWindows. Should I change what I'm using? :o

No no like the Default (blank) or Mansion options.

Not sure if they're suppose to be added or not, just wanted to mention it

[rich ice]

the beta is planned to be the "replacement" (though TestAccount also wants to give people the option to use the old style somehow). So I'd say it's up to you, but for now, if the lack of oxygen in your ship is a bit bothersome, I'd say you could, for now, at least

oh, yeah, the floor windows have no frames in any style atm

[wide hull]

Ah okay

I wanted to try it out because of those 1 or 2 pixel wide gaps you see without the outline filter

[rich ice]

I double-checked just now, and you were right; seems like something I did messed up the third floor glass from changing to the correct material. I plan to update 2SS soon to fix the other issues anyways, too

[rich ice]

okay, I haven't posted changelogs here in a while because I was hiding the fact that I didn't fix cruiser tire alignments, and I still haven't 😀 but I'm going to post a couple changelogs from before, and from just now.

2-Story RV Cruiser 0.2.3

• Fixed cruiser step supports being slightly short of connecting to cruiser when extra trimming disabled.
  0.2.2
• Added config to enable back cruiser steps.

Utility Furniture 1.1.0

• Added Speaker1 and Alarm0-3 moveable ship objects.
• Added Poster0-5 as moveable ship posters. Affected by ship poster-changing mods
• Slightly adjusted positions for moveable Screen0, and Speaker0.

2-sToRy ShIp 1.1.6

• Fixed non-beta ShipWindows floor window hole shape mismatch.
• Fixed minor outline where ShipWindows floor window would appear, when floor window is not present.
• Fixed third-floor window hole always being empty regardless of window settings.
  1.1.5
• Re-activated and moved many previously inactive ship objects.

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice the third floor floor window is gone for me after the update

There's a small outline but the window isn't appearing

[lament gorge]

Old cartoons when something in the background is going to move

[rich ice]

😭

[fathom marlin]

i learned that the masked dont have to take the stairs 😭

[wide hull]

I don't think it's entirely 2SS's issue and has something to do with Ship Colours messing up the priority when it updates the stuff. For example, I have Windows, 2-Storey, Wide, Tinted, and Colours atm. Sometimes, if I toggle the visibility of a layer- say, the 2nd floor's inside railing, the game will suddenly think that Windows' 'black & stars' is suppose to be on top of Tinted's brighter lights and moon. Other times, certain toggles will tell the game to turn off Windows altogether and the gaps are filled in with walls (still has frames).

I had to to disable both 3rd floor's floor window and 3rd floor's front window to get the floor window till fill in with metal (front window still working)

[rich ice]

on which moon is this happening (and is it on the blacklist, or default approach no navmesh regen)? Some moons won't allow a normal regeneration, and anything on the blacklist or if default method is no regen will use normal ship navigation

[fathom marlin]

"Flicker" by DemonMae

[wide hull]

Me experiencing Mel's update

[rich ice]

tiny patch

2-sToRy ShIp 1.1.7

• Fixed 3rd-story floor window never showing up regardless of configs.

[wide hull]

Oh, I just realised I never tried to move the vent. Is that mveable ? :o

[rich ice]

oh

I didn't do that 😀 😀 😀

[wide hull]

... lmao omg im sorry..

[rich ice]

oh, no, I was actually supposed to when I re-enabled it in 2SS, but then focused on alarms and posters

I'll throw it in to the next time I update, since I also want to make more parts moveable, like the suit parts and all that. Including the oxygen tank if you have the oxygen mod enabled, that lets you refill oxygen

[wide hull]

Yooo

I like the idea of that mod

[rich ice]

I never got to try it out in the modpacks I played, but it seemed pretty cool, and I found out about it when somebody asked for compat in moving it in 2SS

[wide hull]

Same.Seems neat but avoided it because I wasn't sure if I was going to keep the tanks visible

[waxen comet]

utilideez

[scenic condor]

are there any mods that makes landing with this mod not work?

it just instantly puts me on the planet and i cant open the door

[lean sedge]

Hi Melanie, is there an option to resize the Christmas tree? It's too big for the ship. It would be perfect if it could be made a bit shorter.

[torpid fiber]

Hello mel is this mod an april fools mod or is this a real mod that expands the ship

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241786100201160784/1356422008061034526/CodeBirthisDeprecates.gif

[maiden basin]

dunno if its an issue with the new move ability feature in utility feature. when filtering moons with terminal formatter, its buying the filter0 in the store.

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/spongey-boy-is-a-true-gangsta-gif-6755506922971002547

[rich ice]

I guess I'll change the name of it next update so it doesn't step in front of camera during picture time

[rich ice]

sorry for late response. Though I originally made it for Wider + 2SS (or outside), I guess I can finally follow up with making the smaller version of it 4 months late (8 months early)

[rich ice]

sorry for late response part 2. Do you get the same issue without the mod present? Does this happen on new saves, or only an existing one? And do you have any logs and/or a mod profile code?

[torpid fiber]

Sorry for late response part 3

Where were you when 2 story ship is kill

[scenic condor]

dont worry about a thing lol youre doing this for free, i decided to just make a new modpack and now its just working but thanks for the response anyway!

[wide hull]

Hey Mel, would it be possible to set the Model0 for Poster5 (tips) to 1 1 1 size like the rest of the Model0s? Apparently the true size of the tips poster is double the width and the vanilla size we're used to is an individual edit from the devs. :o
I noticed that when I reset the Plane.001 to 1 1 1 size, only the tips poster got bigger. Secret Unlock

[wide hull]

speaking of... why are a bunch of things sized strangely? screens are 1.04 0.95 1.12 and such. The poster sizes are so arbitrary so why scale them instead of just using the size image you want?

[rich ice]

the size of stuff like the screen having a lot of decimals like 1.93274 is just vanilla, and I don't touch the scales of those in the moveable furniture.

The posters, I had to give most of them their own model because all the posters are using the same material, and just displaying different sections of the same image. Except for one, which is the one that isn't scaled to 1, 1, 1, because that uses its own image entirely, but only that one, for some reason. Which I just gave a default Unity plane and scaled in Unity to reduce imported meshes by 1 plane

context:

zeekers only gave one poster a separate image, and the rest are in the same, meaning each poster being separated into their own, can't actually use the same mesh

[wide hull]

Unity is so weird, gee! I was trying to learn more about the poster stuff because all the mods seem to use their own template (cookie cutter layout of a 1024×1024 img) and eventually noticed that some of the posters get stretched nad squished, even in vanilla (?) Like, not A LOT, but definitely not the "advertised size"

Like, hammer guy gets flattened a bit, and I think most/the rest :p

(even in vanilla)

[rich ice]

kind of think of it like this. Let's say we have a plane. What the plane shows of an image applied to it, is based on its UV map. If we set the UV map to display the image fully with each corner of the image on each corner of the plane, then it doesn't matter how we scale the mesh, it will always show the full image, and so the image will squish and stretch with the mesh

it's like if stickers changed their size based on the surface you put them on

but yeah, since the posters are mostly one image, each poster needed their own mesh with different UV mapping to show those parts of the image

[wide hull]

Sounds like a lot of work! You know, your custom individual posters seem to be better/the bestwhen it comes to sizes. I haven't figured out the exact layout to maximise size without triggering those squishy debuffs but so far I've compared unmodded, Lethal Posters, Custom Posters and Solos Poster Changer, and whatever you did to the 1-5 made them pretty good (there is that sorta... slanted(?) bottom on 5 though. 9/10 QoL work girl ty ty

[rich ice]

yeah, fun fact, the slant was also in vanilla because it was part of its intended poster design, so I tried to preserve that in the moveable version

aka I really need that extra 1/10

[floral ocean]

nice mod

3/10