[Discontinued] LethalMin (LC Pikmin Mod)

[quaint echo]

add an animation of you attempting to pluck a pikmin but instead of hearing the childlike joy of a newly born pikmin you just see a limp shriveled up corpse

[remote tree]

Traumatise them

The employees that is

[quaint echo]

yes

[quaint echo]

and you quickly dropping/throwing it away in fear and disgust

[remote tree]

eat it, the company doesnt supply you with food, its already dead

Wait what

[quaint echo]

HUH?

[remote tree]

Who said that D:

[quaint echo]

PARDON?

[remote tree]

the bulborbs do it

THE DEMONS ARE COMING OUT MAN

[quaint echo]

[remote tree]

Sorry

louie hacked my account-

[quaint echo]

the more i look at it the more it looks like a carrot

[remote tree]

Louie shut up-

[quaint echo]

lol no

[tiny sable]

anyways we might get GTA 6 before the full verison comes out

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/spinel-garden-waiting-waiting-patiently-space-gif-17939383

[tiny sable]

I think I'll make the LCVR compat the very last thing I'll work on. That way I won't have to keep checking in VR if the mod works everytime I add a new feature

[quaint echo]

smart

[quaint echo]

for when pikmin get stuck in the Hygrodere (the goop)

[south apex]

this is uh

interesting

will some of those release after the full version-

pweaze its so much

[remote tree]

Goolix/foolix moment

[main blade]

let em cook the full release and be done with it

expansion can come later

[quaint echo]

FOR REAL, when i first ecountered the hygrodere i unironically called it the goolix

sometimes i still do

[tiny sable]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

[quaint echo]

Wat

[tiny sable]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
is a very common error that occrous in Object Oriented Programming and Game Devlopment. It occurs when a script attempts to get somthing from an object (a refernce) that does not exist/is not instanced, aka being null (NullRefernceException). For example it's like trying to read a shopping list that hasn't been written.

[south apex]

Ah yes

A sad error in coding

That will probably always happen once when coding something

[remote tree]

Same

Its one of my main points of lethal company literally just being pikmin 5

[quaint echo]

This mods entire existence further proves this point

[remote tree]

Explore space to collect items to make money for a company.

Massive bugs
Day end means more monsters are out

Dive into caves

[quaint echo]

Pikmin fit so well into lethal company

[remote tree]

The hydrogere entirely being a single cell

Uhh what else

[quaint echo]

It’s actually a bunch of cells

[remote tree]

Meh

Still just a basic lifeform

What elseeeee

[quaint echo]

My parents describing me to my relatives:

[remote tree]

😭

Thats right! The amount of money you need (eventually) reaching 10k!

[south apex]

Not collecting enough parts makes you die (only in like Pikmin 1 and 3)

[remote tree]

“Oh no i starved”
“Oh no i breathed bad air”
“Oh no im drifting in outer space for the rest of until i starve or die of thirst”

Also

Who remembers those cutscenes

Specifically the one with the door from outer space

[quaint echo]

I wish note can just release a tiny update that just adds the pluckaphone

[remote tree]

That led to the room in artifice

[remote tree]

“But i want it NOW” mentality

[quaint echo]

That’d be enough to entertain me for months

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[tiny sable]

I'd like to just give the beta one last update, but the beta is so unstable that I'm afraid even changing one line of code will break 100 things simultaneously

[quaint echo]

Thats honestly understandable

[remote tree]

Add pluckaphone in final update to beta before the remakening update is out

Also the only glitch ive noticed is sometimes falling through the map which is fixed and only happend 2 times

[tiny sable]

I think the 0.2.20 patch also broke a lot of other things, but I'm not entirely sure.

[quaint echo]

I didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary

Like I said multiple times before you gotta give yourself more credit

[tiny sable]

I've been getting complaints about the Pikmin Container not being buyable.

[quaint echo]

I personally never had a problem with it

They prolly typed it wrong

[remote tree]

I think thats a compat issue with vanilla lethal

Also gtg

[tiny sable]

bye bye

[quaint echo]

I bet all the complaints are from people who didnt read this

[tiny sable]

hmmmmmmmmm

[main blade]

my guy.

i have tried pik, pikmin, pikmin container, Pikmin Container, Pikmin container, PikminContainer, Pikmin-Container, pikmin-container, Pikmin-container and it still did not work.

the only CORRECT typing is Pikmin Container.

and when it was correct, it just made an extra line

line break, is the name of it

the response is a line break

[quaint echo]

Then if it works if you type that, whats the issue?

[main blade]

that it doesnt order it.

[quaint echo]

Oh

[main blade]

I type in buy pikmin container, and it responds with a line break

no yes or no option

just a line break

other options doesnt get recognized, or sends me to the pikmin entry

[south apex]

I’ve had to test my mod with the Pikmin Container multiple times and I’ve never had it just not buy

[main blade]

Want me to explicitly show you?

[proud mantle]

That and show what the console is saying

[tiny sable]

ok

I'm tempted to just put a giant whistle on the ship

[plush pike]

That would be great lol

Or use the pikmin 2 detached ship head model that goes in caves

[main blade]

As I said already, it shows a line break

[main blade]

ok, all of a sudden it works perfectly with pik, pikmin, and also the pikmin container being bought in file 3 carries over to files 1 and 2?

[quaint echo]

Isn’t there an antenna on top of the ship?

[tiny sable]

I'm adding it as a config for the funny ofc

Re-added Piggy's variety mod compat (ignore the bug)

[main blade]

huh, neat

anyways idk why it just works, but it literally just puts down a line break sometimes, idk why, but I'll get a vid sometime

[quaint echo]

help my pikmin have amalgamated into a single organism

[quaint echo]

"i love all my children the same!"

[tiny sable]

op

that happens when Pikmin cannot path to an exit

It has been fixed in the full version so that Pikmin constantly recalculate their path instead of just calculating once and never recalculating.

[quaint echo]

release the full version then.

jk

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[tiny sable]

Possibly in June, but at this point I'm just giving random dates because I don't really have a way to measure how long it will take

[quaint echo]

just saying man if you need a bug tester

[tiny sable]

(volume warning)

[quaint echo]

im posting that every time you send an image of something you added

[quaint echo]

i repaid the debt :D

[quaint echo]

pikmin should run around screaming if their leader dies

just feel like that would be funny

[tiny sable]

as a config mabey

[quaint echo]

nah it should be the default

[quaint echo]

just imagine being like 3 rooms away hearing a pikmin scream, a mine exploding, then silence.

[tiny sable]

I prefer moments when a leader dies somewhere, and the other players don't even know until the Pikmin bring their body back to the ship and the notfication pops up

[quaint echo]

i rarely see that, most of the time they get killed shortly after what killed their leader. that or they stand around like idiots.

[south apex]

Usually my friend Pikmin slack, so we’ll both be inside and all of the sudden all of his Pikmin are disbanded from his group

hint: he died

[tiny sable]

Fun Fact, for Pikmin 1, 2, 3, and 4. The Pikmin models all use the same rig, just with differnet bone names. This means I can just rename the bone names to match the Pikmin 4 bone names and just use the Pikmin 4 animations for all of the models. (I'm not sure If I will change this so that every game uses their animations, but I'm keeping it for now.) This is the same for all games except Hey! Pikmin. So, I must find a way to dump the animations from Hey! Pikmin, which is kinda difficult because Hey! Pikmin is also werid with the way it keeps it's animations. Also the tool I'm using doesn't have a clear way to dump animations either :D

[olive haven]

you could actually probably transfer weights from the other pikmin models if the models themselves are close enough

[tiny sable]

While that does produce decent results, it does cause more noticeable distortion on the mesh compared to the other games D:

[main blade]

They hunger

[main blade]

Yo that looks sick af

[green imp]

That’s what I said and look horrified when near a dog just stuff to make them feel alive

[quaint echo]

Yeah they should crouch when youre crouching, like how they do when you hide in a bush in Pikmin 3 and 4

[green imp]

YEAH

[quaint echo]

Though idk about the horrified expression stuff cus most of the Pikmin facial expressions consist of 👀

[remote tree]

Normal: 👁️ 👁️
Scared: 👀

[olive haven]

unfortunate

[south apex]

the second time

[tiny sable]

they don't even do that in the games though

[wind torrent]

bulbmin do that when the big bulbmin dies

[tiny sable]

pikmin aren't bulbmin I also think that bulbmin don't do that when olimar/louie dies.

[quaint echo]

They kinda do, if you manage to kill that one beetle enemy in Pikmin 2 that steals your Pikmin with its own whistle, any Pikmin it had would run around screaming until you whistle them.

Maybe they could panic when their leader dies in a way that makes their body irretrievable without the use of a teleporter. Such as quicksand, a fall Into those pits in the factory layout, or being eaten by a forest giant.

I just woke up from a nap and I’m already cooking

[olive haven]

you can not recover a body even with a teleporter from quicksand or being eaten by a giant lol

[quaint echo]

Oops

[tiny sable]

Also, Pikmin can also get grabbed by forest giant if they are near a player when they get grabbed.

[quaint echo]

I knew that, hence why it would be funny to have any surviving Pikmin freak out.

[green imp]

I want John pikmin to have a soul God dammit

[tiny sable]

[tiny sable]

I don't know how I feal about this design (I made it too big in the screenshot)

[quaint echo]

I like it

[wind torrent]

put it on the wall instead

[tiny sable]

i will

[quaint echo]

Would it make sense for Pikmin to look uneasy if they feel that thier leader is being haunted?

[tiny sable]

uneasy?

[quaint echo]

Basically nervous/scared

[tiny sable]

nervous/scared?

[quaint echo]

Bro where are you going with this

Why are you confused your confusion is confusing me

[quaint echo]

It’s a popular myth that dogs or cats can sense paranormal stuff so I thought it would a fun little thing if the Pikmin could react to the ghost girls trickery, I’d have no idea how you would implement this and I’m half asleep rn so I may be losing my mind

This idea sucks I’m sorry

[tiny sable]

Nah it's okay, I actually kind of like the idea of Pikmin telegraphing entities

[tiny sable]

I don't even know myself, sorry about that

[quaint echo]

On the topic of the ghost girl, even if the Pikmin panicking feature isnt default, I feel like Pikmin should always freak out if the player dies to the ghost girl. Just imagine you’re chilling with your dad or something and his head gets cut off by a child breaking various rules of basic science by just existing.

[proud mantle]

They're locked in 24/7, ain't got no time for shellshock

[quaint echo]

Idk if you know this but the cause of death from the ghost girl is classified as ‘Unknown’ so I’d probably be easy to implement

[quaint echo]

Maybe the purples would be unbothered, I think they’re immune to panic

[quaint echo]

Just looked it up, they’re immune to panic in Pikmin 2, not sure why they removed that immunity in 4 tho.

[tiny sable]

Alot of things also classifies death as Unknown. But it should still be possible to make the pikmin detect when the ghost girl has killed their leader.

[quaint echo]

if(leaderdiestoscarychild)
{scatter();
}

[tiny sable]

updated caller

[quaint echo]

You had me in the first half

I got a notification on my phone from you that said “updated” I never stood up faster in my life

[tiny sable]

yeah thats why I edited it

[tiny sable]

I'm tryin to get all the features in and bugs fixed before working on compats and interactions

[quaint echo]

At this point the amount of new stuff you added already would be enough to keep me entertained for actual years

Yo I have a question about the butler, would he go after Pikmin left alone or would he just ignore them

[tiny sable]

He would go after pikmin that are left idle with no other players near by.

[quaint echo]

Makes sense

Do you think masked should have a chance when spawned to also spawn with a few Puffmin?

[tiny sable]

Mabey

It was also intended in the beta for every pikmin in the leader's squad to turn into puffmin when they got masked. But I forgot to add it in.

[quaint echo]

I think it’s better that some Pikmin that are lucky enough to be far away from the infected player still have a chance to be saved by other players

Plus dont masked already hunt down and whistle uninfected Pikmin?

[tiny sable]

While they don't target pikmin, they will whistle them if they happen to be within range.

[quaint echo]

tell me more facts

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[tiny sable]

The door sound now actually plays when Pikmin go outside

[quaint echo]

normally id send the peter vid but i genuenly want this to the point where im willing to commit murder

[main blade]

Problem, will it summon untouched pikmin? Like the pikmin inside

[quaint echo]

Why would that be a problem

[olive haven]

well then you don't even have to work to find purples/whites/bulbmin, just press the button at the start and boom they all come to you

[tiny sable]

No, it won't summon wild Pikmin

[tiny sable]

[quaint echo]

you heard me

[quaint echo]

the command i give my pikmin at the sight of a pack of eyeless dogs (we will not survive the encounter)

[remote tree]

Call back? Like, callback pi-

[tiny sable]

so something fun that can happen is that while the Pikmin are trying to make it from the mineshaft to the ship, they have a chance to drown in some cave water and die

[remote tree]

Config so that: “wild pikmin can drown (for cave interior)”, “out of sight pikmin can drown”, “keep holding item while drowning” (makes them still die if in it for too long but go through the water normally)

[main blade]

Just config difficulty on ot off

[tiny sable]

New stats UI

[quaint echo]

yeah thats why i immediately pull out blues whenever i encounter a mineshaft interior

[quaint echo]

you should add a total that shows up when you get fired

[tiny sable]

Like:
Total Pikmin Raised
Total Pikmin Loss?

[quaint echo]

yea

[quaint echo]

simple trick to counter this, any pikmin that are stuck under the ship whistle, then throw the pikmin inside the ship, the item will teleport to thier hands if theyre close enough and they put the item in the ship like normal.

[round flare]

i love pikmin

[quaint echo]

pikmin love you too

[round flare]

i know

many have died for me

their sacrifices will not be in vain

[blazing tusk]

water wraith mod is awesome! only things i'd suggest is giving players fear when witnessing it spawn and watchinh it barrel toward you. maybe a config for its speed. maybe a second behavior it can do? like a secondary attack, smack the ground and stun/damage/push players and stuff. finally i think it could do well with music cues like when it falls from the sky it plays the boss battle intro and when its in roaming phase it plays the "Waterwraith Appearance" song from the first encounter cutscene, and when its chasing you it'll play the chase theme obviously. i feel like these could be off by default in the console cause some people might not like it. i think the only entity that has music with it is the old SCP 106 mod and i feel like they did fairly well with it. it might get a little janky when the wraith repeatedly loses sight of you and locks back on over and over.
amazing mod regardless!

[remote tree]

I got flashbacks reading this

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[tiny sable]

The water wraith actually is supposed to give fear when it spawns near a player, but I think it's bugged. I'll fix it once I'm doing it's compatibility for LethalMin 1.0.0
I never added music because in my option adding the music takes away from the the fear factor of the water wraith, but I'll I think i'll add music as a config when I get around to updating it again.

[main blade]

Notezy, you american?

[tiny sable]

yeah

[quaint echo]

Bro the music adds tension, without it all you hear is sgsjbbuagaghdh from bubble buddy driving flint stones car it’s not scary without the music

[remote tree]

I think the music adds fear

[remote tree]

Lmao

[quaint echo]

The ferocious beast

[remote tree]

Awwe

[quaint echo]

AYO WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THE LOCAL WILDLIFE

[tiny sable]

A-posing

[remote tree]

I think first look at the fused pikmin 1 onion

i noticed

[quaint echo]

Will the whistle get a charge command?

Maybe that’s how you could implement the glowy bois sprit bomb (if you’re planning on adding them)

[tiny sable]

Now that I think about it, I prolly should have done a poll about the music when I started making the water wraith mod.

[tiny sable]

Mabey

[quaint echo]

“Mabey” tell me yes or no or I will explode.

[main blade]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-krabs-explosion-gif-25321755

[quaint echo]

Fr

[blazing tusk]

what do oyu mean

[main blade]

I am going to blow myself up

[quaint echo]

Ight bro thats it

[tiny sable]

yes or no

[blazing tusk]

i see. just a little thought of mine

[quaint echo]

[quaint echo]

[blazing tusk]

oh actually something i forgot to say was adding the groaning and moaning of the wraith

[quaint echo]

Olimaren’t

[tiny sable]

Thoughts on this item counter?

[quaint echo]

Make it orange and it’s perfect

[tiny sable]

It is orange

[quaint echo]

I mean like REALLLLLY orange

[tiny sable]

although I think i chose the lightest shade of orange ever

[quaint echo]

Yeah

It almost looks yellow

Also why does the apparatus weigh 12 Pikmin?

[tiny sable]

Due to this calculation

[quaint echo]

And theres a bug where if you throw Pikmin at the apparatus when it’s still plugged in the wall the Pikmin can carry it without causing the lights to go out or any of the side effects

[quaint echo]

You changed it?

[tiny sable]

yeah

the old calculation resulted in most items weighing 1 - 3

[quaint echo]

Noooooo that means I’m gonna have to re-memorize all the weights

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-it-was-it-was-beautiful-avengers-infinity-war-avengers3-gif-26954849

So that means the onions are gonna take like 30 Pikmin?

[tiny sable]

*42

[quaint echo]

[tiny sable]

Sorry but the old calculation was kinda unbalanced

[quaint echo]

It’s fine it’s just gonna take some time to get used to

It’s your mod you do what you think is right

42 is still a lot though

[tiny sable]

High risk High reward

[quaint echo]

Maybe instead of quadrupling or quintupleing it you can just double or triple it

[quaint echo]

The old weights

[tiny sable]

I'll add a config to use the old item calculations

[quaint echo]

Tell that to my throw keybind

“WAHOWAHOWAHOWAHOWAHOWAHOWAHOWAHO”

[main blade]

Tf just carry it

[quaint echo]

Then that defeats the purpose of the Pikmin (also I’m lazy)

[main blade]

Pikmin carry small, you carry two handed

[quaint echo]

I’ve been carrying the small, and having the Pikmin carry two handed

Cus you can only hold one two handed item at a time

[main blade]

Makes me sad I wont be here to see the final version

[quaint echo]

Wait why

[quaint echo]

Does that mean that items that took 3 now take 9?

[tiny sable]

It's more specific to the item's base weight now, so bolts weigh 19lb to players meaning it weighs 7 to Pikmin.

[quaint echo]

OMG THATS ACTUALLY PERFECT

I just thought you quadrupled the og values you or something you had me worried for a second

[tiny sable]

but still

[quaint echo]

How long did that take you to add that config

[tiny sable]

around a minute

[quaint echo]

Impressive

I can’t read code bc I’m an idiot, but I’m guessing it takes the weight value then divides it by 2.5 to get the Pikmin pounds?

[tiny sable]

yeah, then it's casted to an integer meaning that it just removes the decimal part of the division. So: 19 / 2.5 = 7.6 -> 7

[quaint echo]

Rounded down, noted

Imma have to bring a calculator every time I boot up the game lmao

[tiny sable]

It doesn't do any rounding it just removes the decimal part entirely

[quaint echo]

Rounding down the decimal does exactly that

[tiny sable]

ah, okay

change color

[quaint echo]

Bro you’re cooking so well youre putting Louie to shame

Omg

[tiny sable]

No animations yet, but it's getting there

[quaint echo]

WAITWAITWAOTE PURPLE ONION?????

[quaint echo]

Wait what about the Pikmin container

[tiny sable]

secondary storeage

[tiny sable]

❔

[quaint echo]

Will the purple and white onions only spawn on harder moons? I feel like it would be pretty broken to be able to get the onions for some of the best Pikmin in the mod day one.

[tiny sable]

Of course, did you not see the PerferedPowerLevel set to 13 in the screenshot? That and they have a 55% less chance to spawn than the other onions.

[quaint echo]

Admittedly, I did not.

I did see it, but I didn’t SEE it. Y’know?

Just assumed it was normal lol

[tiny sable]

understandable

[quaint echo]

The mod is almost at 100000 downloads

[tiny sable]

One Hundred Thousand?!?!?!?

[quaint echo]

got any celebrations in mind?

[tiny sable]

Not sure, Mabey a Trailer 2 for the full version.

But here is the TODO list:

[quaint echo]

Or a tiny update that adds absolutely nothing but a config option to give the lil guys party hats

[proud mantle]

That reminds me, the dev of the ScarletDevilMoon wanted to ask how to set a landing point for the onions (they currently land inside a hedge)

[quaint echo]

As a nod to lethal company’s party update that gave hoarding bugs party hats

[tiny sable]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotezyTeam/LethalMin/wiki/2681-custom-onion-spawn-positions/

[quaint echo]

Small amount

[quaint echo]

Not sure if you noticed this

[tiny sable]

slightly larger amount

[quaint echo]

Almost unnoticeable

[glad mist]

Jesus Christ

Can't wait for this to release in 2028

[tiny sable]

If I don't get stuck on a stupid bug like I did this morning too often, I should be able to get this out in a couple of months

[remote tree]

Whats done and not done?

[dense turret]

it's a to-do list so i think none of it

[remote tree]

True

[quaint echo]

Just saying if you need a beta tester

[remote tree]

Me 2

[quaint echo]

Let’s pray it’s out by the time summer rolls around

Would you be okay with me making a wiki page for the mod or are you already planning on doing that

[tiny sable]

I'm fine with it, I'm not planning on making a wiki page.

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-gif-2455005257216062336

On second though I should make it once the full mod comes out so it doesn’t become outdated in like 3 months

[tiny sable]

||Players can now be revived via the onion||

[glad mist]

This will be a config

Right?

[tiny sable]

Yeah ofc

[quaint echo]

THIS IS AMAZING

[glad mist]

Awesome!!!

[quaint echo]

What can I do to get this early Ill do anything

[glad mist]

Never 😭

[quaint echo]

Will the soul/sprout color change based on what color Pikmin took you to which onion?

[tiny sable]

Not yet, but maybe...

[quaint echo]

i love the fear effect that shows up when you get revived, it gives the feeling that the employee is wondering "how the hell am I alive when I clearly died?"

[remote tree]

Suggestion: make the power level being higher make LESS pikmin spawn, since, more danger

[quaint echo]

[quaint echo]

i like the idea but i also kinda dont, it makes perfect sense but what if something unexpected happens and your whole squad is dead, and theres little you can do to replenish your bois

not my mod but just putting my 2 cents out there

[quaint echo]

would immunities be active? like being revived via the red onion would make you better with a shovel and be unbothered by fire?

[tiny sable]

Unfortunately, No

[quaint echo]

fair enough, pretty sure it would encourage players to intentionally die just to reap the benefits of being half Pikmin.

[proud mantle]

Just so a solo player could benefit, would it be possible to make a check to see if there's Pikmin carrying the player and delay the automatic leave?

In the very rare circumstance where a player dies and some Pikmin manage to book it to the entrance

[quaint echo]

for real

[tiny sable]

Preventing the ship from leaving is a very risky thing to do because it could easily soft lock the entire game.
But I might make a config that allows solo players to have a random chance of being automatically revived by the onion.

[quaint echo]

maybe like a countdown like the other mod you made

that can be skipped if you feel that your pikmin wont be able to make it

or do a singleplayer version of the vote system, if you dont get revived within like an in-game hour, the ship will leave.

[tiny sable]

[olive haven]

This is the most specific bug I've ever seen how did you even find this

[quaint echo]

As a game dev you have to do the most random shit in order to find and fix potential bugs

[tiny sable]

Sometimes bugs just randomly happen like this one, heck I can't even replicate this one now. I'm not even sure If I accidentally fixed it or not.

[tiny sable]

found a way to dump Hey Pikmin's animations

[remote tree]

He dance when he scared

[quaint echo]

HE TOOK MY SUGGESTION IM SO HONORED I MIGHT CRY

[green imp]

FINNLY I also suggested it a long time ago as well as well this was WAY back when suggested it (sorry if that sounds rude)

[tiny sable]

So sorry, I think I forgot back then

[green imp]

I stopped asking because you started working on the update

[quaint echo]

We can cry together

[remote tree]

Make it so that after the final major update

Theres an update that adds pikmin bloom decor

And every 10k steps

You get one

[remote tree]

As a config probably

[quaint echo]

Omfg thats genius, if it’s not too much of a hassle, add special decor that makes the ship gold plated for 10000 credits

[remote tree]

Ye, when u find all the decor min

Also

Is that a reference

To a certain

Hocotation’s ship

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-2-pikmin-ship-speech-bubble-gif-17067897430315951161

[quaint echo]

Ye

[remote tree]

Also

Make it so that when you get revived

The onion cannot produce sprouts for one quota or until you feed it what would otherwise grow total of 10 pikmin

(Can be multiple things that add up)

[remote tree]

Lol

The wraith

[quaint echo]

Valid reaction

[remote tree]

Also

Note

If possible could you make up what the waterwraith design WOULD have looked like for pikmin 3 and hey! Pikmin?

Or nah

I mean hell use the plasm wraith for pikmin 3 style water wraith

[remote tree]

Using his crystal attack but cylinders

It would funny

[remote tree]

Truly a lethal company

[quaint echo]

Did you just make that or did you have that on standby?

[tiny sable]

stand by

[remote tree]

Ok but seriously im cooking

And for hey! Pikmin style its that weird thing that jumps into plant to become dragon

[quaint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-i-have-a-meme-for-this-gif-7775066180007963769

Bro fr went

[remote tree]

With grass rollers

[remote tree]

:true:

[remote tree]

Make these real or i will send my army of pikmin to you with a DIY flashbang and easter egg

And of course a pipebomb

[tiny sable]

tbh the gold ship could be a mod of it's own

[quaint echo]

Already checked it doesn’t exist (yet)

[tiny sable]

But yeah I might add Pikmin Bloom decor after the final update

*full version

[quaint echo]

you gave me a mini heart attack

[remote tree]

YIPPEE

[quaint echo]

YEAHHHHHH

[remote tree]

I CAN FINALLY HAVE A PIKMIN WEARING THE DEAD CORPSE OF THE MANEATER AS A TROPHY!

Or one wearing jesters box

Also let people make decor for their own types

Or have it automatic and they just have to put the position on the model with something

[quaint echo]

Yeah let’s get more attached to our lil guys so it’s even more heartbreaking when they get ripped apart by feral dogs

[tiny sable]

also

just a test nothings confirmed yet...

[quaint echo]

Note.

Is that what I think it is?

[tiny sable]

[quaint echo]

Ight bro thats it I’m gifting you nitro

[tiny sable]

I already have nitro anyways

[quaint echo]

SHUT THE HELL UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

[tiny sable]

ok

[olive haven]

A pikmin that can make it back to the ship on artifice

[tiny sable]

if they don't get shot down by the old birbs

[olive haven]

Still better odds than every other pikmin

[tiny sable]

yeah

[quaint echo]

reds might make it

they can survive being grabbed and torched

[olive haven]

They can not survive missiles, eyeless dogs and baboon hawks

[quaint echo]

true

[olive haven]

Or simply being stepped on by the old bird

[quaint echo]

i dont think that hurts them

[olive haven]

I had pikmin die because I went out main at the wrong time and they got crushed by an old bird lol

[quaint echo]

rip

[green imp]

Flashbacks to the armory from Wesley’s interiors

[olive haven]

I can't wait for them to completely break titan

[tiny sable]

at least it didn't spawn in the rock

[quaint echo]

We might get this out by the end of April actually

[quaint echo]

Is he ok

[tiny sable]

probably not

[quaint echo]

The way it’s running

[wind torrent]

this is terrifying

[glad mist]

Fun fact

The Pikmin getting stuck only happens on elevated fire exits!

[quaint echo]

And on the main entrance of embrion

[glad mist]

Which... Is elevated

But yeah

[quaint echo]

Someone add a cartoon skedaddling sound effect to this

[tiny sable]

Got the onion from

I'm kinda surprised it is actually rigged since I don't think it really has any animations

[olive haven]

i forgot this moon exists I have played on it one singular time since it came out

[proud mantle]

Crackmin, 1% enemy encounter

[quaint echo]

Imagine if thats like the Pikmin equivalent of a mimic, and when you try to throw it, it just goes ape. (Please don’t add this.)

[proud mantle]

They're still on your side, they're just a lil quirky that's all

[quaint echo]

Put it in as a “funi” animation set or something

It cannot be wasted

[remote tree]

The great reveal of purple and white onions

Existed since hey!

Also how would you make it fuse

Also i dont even think you should bother its identical to 3’s unless im missing a small detail

[tiny sable]

by just adding another color to it.

[remote tree]

I mean the base model has all the colors in

[tiny sable]

I could do something similar to what I already do and just generate a texture with the spesefic fused colors in it.

[tiny sable]

While it does look similar to 3's it is a bit more stylized.

[remote tree]

The only difference i see is on the top of the flower could you please hilight different

[tiny sable]

It's legs are also more thicker in

[remote tree]

Also this has those triangle patterns on the side unless thats a animation rigging thing

[quaint echo]

[remote tree]

🔥 Didnt skip leg day

[tiny sable]

The triangle pattern texture is glitched in blender so it looks odd in the screenshot, but I fixed it in unity.

[remote tree]

Ok

Still i only see difference in the flower

[tiny sable]

Got Custom Scripts working and re added Purple's slam

[remote tree]

They go normal angle for a bit then straight down, they dont slam everytime they land only if it reaches the part of the throw they slam

[tiny sable]

Yeah IK, when I was making the beta I thought they only did that in 4 and not 2

[quaint echo]

On the topic of purples, I don’t remember if I asked this already but will they have a chance to stun?

[remote tree]

Oh ok

[tiny sable]

In the beta they only deal more damage when directly landing on an enemy, they do not stun them though.

I'm gonna change that in the full version tho

[quaint echo]

You answered my second question as I was typing-

[remote tree]

In 4 the extra damage is no matter what btw

[remote tree]

As long as he lands on them the impact damage doesnt care if slamming or not if its pik 4

[quaint echo]

Will it have an area of effect or will it need a direct it? Also in 2 they have a slight homing effect so will that be implemented as well?

[remote tree]

Heat seeking missile 🔥 🔥 🔥

[quaint echo]

For real

[tiny sable]

I'm not too sure yet

[tiny sable]

I had to use some of the hackiest code imaginable just to get custom scripts to work, so I'm gonna hope nothing implodes when doing 3 and 4's custom scripts.

[quaint echo]

Whats hacky about it I’m dumb

[tiny sable]

In the game every game object that is synced between players has what is called a NetworkObject, this NetworkObject handles things like spawning, despawning, and most importantly RPC calls. RPCs (Remote Procedure Call) are basically functions that are synced and ran on every player in the server, so RPCs are very important for synconizeation between players. Scripts that use RPCs are called NetworkBehaviours, these scripts send RPC calls to the NetworkObject which then sends them to other players on the server. Now this is important, NetworkObjects need to keep track of what NetworkBehaviour is sending what RPC, to do that it has a list called ChildNetworkBehaviours This list and the order of the scripts in it needs to be EXACTLY the same across every player, In order to ensure that, each NetworkBehaviour has an ID that is basically it's position within the list. So when an RPC is called, the receiving players check if the NetworkBehaviour's ID that called the RPC is within the range of the ChildNetworkBehaviours list, meaning that the ID must not be bigger than the number of NetworkBehavours in the list. If it's not within range, then unity just throws a bunch of errors and does not even call the RPC's function to any player.
Now this is what makes my code Hacky, The way custom scripts work in LethalMin now is that when the game loads, every custom script is added to the Pikmin's NetworkObject and disabled. Then when a Pikmin is spawned it checks if it's type has a CustomScript, if it does then it removes every other Custom Script and enabled it's own custom script. If it doesn't then it removes every custom script and enables the default one. The issue comes with removing the Custom Scripts. Every custom PikminAI script is a network behavior. Remember that every NetworkBehavoiur script has an ID associated with it to keep track of it's position within the ChildNetworkBehaviours list. The issue is that the ID is only set after it spawns in, meaning after the other scripts have been removed and the position of the other NetworkBehaviours in the list change, their IDs do not. So because we removed the other Custom Script NetworkBehaviours from the NetworkObject, it shortens the ChildNetworkBehaviour list and causes the IDs of the remaining NetworkBehaviours to be out of bounds of the list. Remember, this is a big issue as it causes the game to freak out
So in order to fix this, we need to modify the NetworkBehaviour IDs in the list to match their adjusted positions in the list after spawning in the Pikmin. So not only is modifying the ChildNetworkBehaviours list already risky on it's own, but I can imagine changing the NetworkBehaviour IDs after they had already been set by the game is also risky. I'm not even sure if you are supposed to be able to do this since Unity is usually very closed off with modifying the variables on it's scripts like the NetworkObject script. That and the fact the ChildNetworkBehaviour list and NetworkBehaviours IDs are supposed to only be handled by Unity and not any other script from the game. These risks, while giving a surprisingly non buggy result makes my code in my opinion "Hacky".

[main blade]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-speech-bubble-gif-25397532

i know he asked, but its so fucki9ng funny

[tiny sable]

Purple Pikmin now Ground Pound

[undone hearth]

I love this so much

Biblical Accurate purple Pikmin

[tiny sable]

The apparatus sequence now plays when pikmin grab it.

[quaint echo]

Good, that was a very op exploit

[tiny sable]

(volume warning)

[green imp]

man headphone all the way up were a bad idea ( i shed a tear )

[tiny sable]

I'm so sorry I forgot to put "(volume warning)"

[quaint echo]

“Stewie had some too.” 💀

[green imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1228142936970100817/1335129248813547633/One_Must_Imagine_But_Gif.gif

[quaint echo]

Just a small idea, there should be an animation of the Pikmin attempting to pull the apparatus out if there’s not enough Pikmin on it (along with a sound)

[tiny sable]

There was a thing in the Lost Alpha where Pikmin did play the strugle animation when attempting to pick up items when there were not enough pikmin on it. But I decided to remove it in the beta (and maybe final version) due to the position offset between the pikmin and the item, meaning most of the time it would look like they are struggling to lift up air.

[quaint echo]

Lost alpha? (Don’t worry I read the rest lol)

[tiny sable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lethalcompany/comments/1dkn3nv/wip_lethalmin_mod_test_3/?rdt=37270

[quaint echo]

Would it be possible to add a unique animation specifically for the apparatus when it’s still plugged in?

[tiny sable]

probably not because Pikmin aren't even supposed to be able to reach the apparatus unless the grabbing range was changed in the configs.

But maybe if you were to throw them directly onto it...

[quaint echo]

Nah at first it can be them trying to jump up to get it but as you throw more Pikmin they start to stack on top of each other in order to reach and pull it out.

[tiny sable]

Like they do with clipboards in pikmin 4?

[quaint echo]

Like a bunch of mischievous children trying to get a cookie jar off a fridge

[quaint echo]

Kinda yeah

[quaint echo]

Take this seriously tho

Actually maybe it would work like the hanging fruit in Pikmin 3

[tiny sable]

i will

[quaint echo]

Idk you pick

Pick…. Pick… pick men…….. PIKMIN AAAAHDHFUFHDYDHDBDYDGDVDICNSHDYDVEBDJCHDVD

[quaint echo]

Pikmin devs deciding the game name:

[tiny sable]

Made some custom animations for the Hey Pikmin onion

[quaint echo]

Looks great!

[quaint echo]

ayo

[tiny sable]

Implemented models

with toggleable big eyes

[round flare]

👀

[green imp]

the bulbmin with that thousand quota stare

[green imp]

https://tenor.com/view/bulbmin-pikmin-jumpscare-gif-6898324091370243667

at any rate this looks to be going along vary well or at least what we are seeing what else is there to do left

the secret 7th pikmin john pikmin

[quaint echo]

GADZOOKS

[quaint echo]

they should make this face when panicking automatically (if its possible)

idk i just want it to seem like each pikmin has personality and life rather than acting like robots or something

[remote tree]

For the bulbmin it could be his pupil

[remote tree]

Hey! Pikmin bulbmin is so cursed

Can i see pikmin 3 style bulbmin

[remote tree]

Also a suggestion for this, make it share the pik 2 model like it does in the files of 3, atleast as a config of a config

[remote tree]

Ty

Btw, can there be another option for randomise on takeoff/startup, each type of pikmin uses a different model, and the onions are the same but also randomised separately, with the normal randomise on startup would the onion be the same, and lastly, would it be possible to let us customise the models per type (and other modders can make their own models for each style)

[remote tree]

Mmm yes, hd graphics bulbed man

[tiny sable]

1: Sure
2: Sure it's actually already like that sort of.

[remote tree]

Another thing, would it be possible for each instance of a pikmin to use a different random model even if its the same type

[tiny sable]

Mabey

[remote tree]

This would be funny if so

Me with my ultra realistic bulbmin next to my cartoon bulbed man

[quaint echo]

you vs the man she told you not to worry about

[tiny sable]

then again you could always do somthing like this

[proud mantle]

I imagine you do the whole Vegeta speech right before you explode in these showcases

"Drop pod, Company Cruiser, I do this for you. And yes, even for you, Bracken..."

[quaint echo]

Will R.E.P.O.MIN ever become a reality?

[tiny sable]

No due to the fact I don't even have, non then less ever even played R.E.O.P before (and don't really plan to). That and despite being similar to lethal company, it's game design is different to a point where Pikmin cannot be implemented as seamlessly as they are in Lethal Company. On top of that R.E.P.O is also Physics-Based, which means that I'm not even sure how Pikmin will be able to do the basic task of carrying items without breaking anything.

[quaint echo]

Honestly fair enough

[remote tree]

Pikmin fit too seamlessly with lethal

I literally first thaught of lethal that it was like pikmins

[quaint echo]

Who hasn’t

[quaint echo]

I was thinking about them being for combat but ok

[tiny sable]

my other points still stand tho but ok

[quaint echo]

I’m fully aware of that

[remote tree]

AAAA

[tiny sable]

Puffmin

[remote tree]

Why he mushroom differen

[quaint echo]

those exist????

[green imp]

No

Fan made

Or at least I don’t. Remember that in it I did 100% the game

[tiny sable]

Yeah what not mc said, they only exist in Pikmin 1.

This is just an edited Blue Hey! Pikmin model

Stun Grenades are now 50% less lethal

[main blade]

@tiny sable

[tiny sable]

@main blade

[main blade]

Thx for the new pfp bbgirl

[remote tree]

Dizzy bulbed man

And weight loss bald purples

Btw can u update ur orange pikmin mod with bulbearmin and each gamestyles models (after the final major update for the main mod ovc)

[remote tree]

Also hey! Waterwraith and plasm wraith with crystal rollers (styles for wraith)

And let other modders make models per gamestyle

[tiny sable]

Maybe

[remote tree]

Yey

[tiny sable]

That is already a planned feature

[remote tree]

Yippeee

I do feel like ur orange pikmin models eyes are wrong and smaller than they should be btw so if u can remake ur orange mod pritty plea

I will send you kittymin (cat leafling)

[tiny sable]

forgot to add hair

[remote tree]

He good now, not as skinny as i thauhgt he was

[green imp]

Going to be honest I really like the hey pikmin models

[tiny sable]

Same kinda, they have a certain charm to them that I really like. However, animating them I really don't like a lot because their rigging is so different from the other games. (The same is for Pikmin Bloom which is why I'm not adding that as a game generation despite the designs being significantly different).

I had to animate the bulbmin's animations 3 different times for each game generation (Excluding Pikmin 2 because that just reuses the regular Pikmin rig) because the rigging is different for each bulborb.

[green imp]

Hey at least you not working in sfm

Sorry I mean hell

But hey worth it in the end

[tiny sable]

yeah lol

[remote tree]

Pikmin bloom has different models?

I suggest adding them with the decor costumes being added

[tiny sable]

Yeah, the models are way more high-poly and detailed than in any other Pikmin game

[remote tree]

Makes sense since we get right up close and personal

[wind torrent]

the rock pikmin looks off tho

idk why

that’s why i didn’t use it for the rock pikmin mod

i think its the eyes

[remote tree]

they feel closest to hey! btw

in my opinion

[remote tree]

The sheer weight of the purple pikmin kikled you when you tried to throw him

[remote tree]

Oh its the fun guy

Evil pikmin

[tiny sable]

Puffmin now have a spawning animation that shows them fading from their orignal Pikmin color to purple

[main blade]

YOOOOOOO, IS THAT ELON MUSK?

[tiny sable]

XDD

[remote tree]

what if its ourple

also idk if it would be too hard to keep their original shape but dynamically change their eyes, mouth, and leaf (keep purples hair in my opinion, also for custom typse if possible)

[tiny sable]

mabey

Masked Throwing Test (Ignore the puffmin rolling thats a bug)

[quaint echo]

Will Puffmin let out menacing laughter when attacking employees like they do in Pikmin 1

[tiny sable]

mabey, I forgot they did that in pikmin 1

[tiny sable]

Changed Whistle effect (Not sure how I feel about the shader tho)

[quaint echo]

Watching the bulbmin and white Pikmin get infected is making me scared

[tiny sable]

thats a bug btw

[proud mantle]

"Rolling around at the speed of sound"

[remote tree]

Do they have immunity of the original as well like the games

[remote tree]

Also need the models to fade and the colors arent have all of them

[remote tree]

Give them (and players) throwing anims

I JUST REALISED give sprouts differently colored tiny specs on the map like in game (same for actual awake pikmin)

[tiny sable]

They are immune to (almost) every hazard. Because I don't want to animate and program special interactions for puffmin

[tiny sable]

?

[tiny sable]

I tried to give the player custom throwing animations, but it conflicted with too many other animations. I will give the masked a custom whistleing animation tho

[remote tree]

As in a purple pikmin doesnt slowly lose weight and hair, just immediately swaps models before fading to a darker purple, and the ears/nose dont exist during the fade, and some types dont have their colors be faded into purple

[tiny sable]

mabey

[remote tree]

How wholesome, they are hug

[tiny sable]

It turns out my new attacking system allows for Pikmin to latch on to maskeds.

I'm not sure if I'm gonna keep this in or not

[quaint echo]

Idk if I said this before but in the beta the masked only converts idle Pikmin to Puffmin, will that be changed?

[tiny sable]

I'm gonna make it configurable, I only made maskeds convert idle pikmin so that pikmin carrying item's won't be bugged out when they got transformed into puffmin.

[quaint echo]

Valid point

[glad mist]

How's the list going bro

[glad mist]

Mamamia

[remote tree]

Make it like the puffstool bug, where they become helpful puffmin that are pale

As a failsafe for when they r carrying

Also i like the idea of latching onto masked, since u gotta be careful since they will be whistled by him when shaken off

Speaking of shaking, make an animation play, the stun anim, slow for the wind-up, fast for the actual shaking

So we can tell and whistle out pikkies off before they are shaken off

Like in game

[remote tree]

For crowd control, make left click either do charge, or the lineup horn thingy

[remote tree]

Actually, a config to swap between, since charge is the 3 and partly 4 version of lineup

[tiny sable]

Re-added Puffmin

[quaint echo]

LETS GOOOO PIKMIN ACTUALY FIGHT PUFFMIN

[remote tree]

2 things i came up with

1. Let the mimic pluck pikmin to convert
2. Let puffmin convert wild pikmin since they can be changed back

[remote tree]

I feel like it should be foggy

[quaint echo]

what about the smoke in the trailer

[tiny sable]

smoke?

[quaint echo]

When the masked whistled

There was purple smoke

[tiny sable]

that's the whistle effect

[quaint echo]

Duh

Nvm

[remote tree]

btw note

ur orange pikmin's eyes are too small

also he will need his styles and a bulbearmin to go alongside when u do an updated custom tutorial

[remote tree]

Yeah definitely needs to be fogy inside, also the texture feels too rough

[tiny sable]

I turned off the fog because it was too hard to see on dine with it on

[tiny sable]

The game no longer has a stroke when converting an enemy body into an item when SellBodiesFixed is not installed.

[remote tree]

I mean the masked whistle range, needs to be foggy inside

It feels wrong for some reason

[tiny sable]

I'm not totally sure how or if I can do that, because I never messed volumetrics in unity before.

[remote tree]

Ah i see, maybe it could be good to do when everything else is done as a very minor update

[remote tree]

Note im genuinely scared i wont be able to play lethalmin full version

[remote tree]

(Even vanilla lethal is broken for me)

[tiny sable]

try reinstalling or deleting save data

[remote tree]

Thats the issue

Ive reset my lethal installation using thunderstore, uninstalled through third party then reinstalled, verified files

(Multiple times)

Upgraded my wifi

Disabled some mods (this was before it broke on vanilla as well)

Ive done everything logical

And its my grandfathers pc (that i use a lot for gaming) and he has dine stuff since the latest backup so we cant restore backup (multiple users on the pc)

Speaking of multiple users

It works on his user

But thats only vanilla i’ve tried on his user

[tiny sable]

(Almost) got legacy custom types animations working

[remote tree]

you think its complete enough for an estimate release date?

[tiny sable]

Mabey, I'm not totally sure because there still a lot to do. But I'd say it's around 50% complete

[tiny sable]

Made a shader for Pikmin 3's onion

[remote tree]

Epic

[remote tree]

Wait is that grey, does this mean

CUSTOM ONION MERGE!

[quaint echo]

[tiny sable]

no thats just somewere between blue and red

[remote tree]

Aw dang it

But if so wouldnt that just be purple but different shade

Same as when pikmin 4 fans noticed urple onion (they were right but their proof was wrong)

[tiny sable]

my gradient generator is a little iffy, that on top of the game's post processing effects makes it look gray.

[remote tree]

I see

Gtg

[tiny sable]

bye bye

[left laurel]

Hi! im currently trying to add this mod to my pack, but im getting bad stutters when landing on the moon and Lethal Performance gives the error of "Woah! Someone requests to search of all VehicleController objects, even if it's singleton", is this a known issue on which incompatability this is? Everything else seems to be functioning fine

[tiny sable]

I'm unaware of any incompatibilities with Lethal Performance. But from the sounds of it, it seems like the errors are happening because LethalMin is constantly getting every Vehicle object in the scene, and that is causing performance issues with Lethal Performance. Unfortunately I can't do much about that now because the mod is currently going under an overhaul, so I'm no longer updating the mod right now.

[left laurel]

after reading this i disabled lethal performance and it was actually fair ai conflicting with this mod, thank you for your response:)

[remote tree]

Completed unrelated to lc but is pikmin and modding, can somebody make a high quality pikmin mod for operagx (i unironically use it yes, do i care, no) mainly for splashscreen, app icon, stickers ect

[remote tree]

Sent here bc of pikmin&modding btw

[main blade]

Id go to one of the other pikmin hacking people, specially since notes mentioned hes only doing snethal

Pikhacker or salty or one of the peeps in that group would be a better bet imo

[remote tree]

True

[fluid wharf]

i presume this overhaul will massively increase the performance?

[tiny sable]

Yes by a long shot

[fluid wharf]

also, im getting the same thing, but even when disabling the "route to car" option, which got rid of the log spam, the stuttering stayed.

[tiny sable]

Look at this comparison trailer that shows how the performance has been improved https://youtu.be/uE4WpQ5QclQ?si=vFCGABl77wHPaJrI

[fluid wharf]

im assuming its something to do with how things are coded between LethalMin and Lethal Performance

so ill attempt to remove the latter and see how things hold up there, but i dunno if that'll do much.

[fluid wharf]

also, any ETA on when the overhaul will release?

[tiny sable]

Not entirely sure, possibly in a few months.

Progress has been semi-inconsistent.

[fluid wharf]

i see. well, i wish you the best of luck!

[tiny sable]

Thanks!

[fluid wharf]

If you require any assistance in testing, I'd be more than happy to offer up myself for that. I play with a ton of mods, so it'd probably be good for testing for any potential incompatibilities.

but of course, i likely wouldnt be able to offer much else than that

[quaint echo]

Yo can I get in on this too?

[fluid wharf]

still in school n all that, plus college next school year...

[tiny sable]

Anyways || 'Officially' Added Rock Pikmin||

[fluid wharf]

me carrying the corpse i just killed while laying down

[quaint echo]

I cannot put my excitement, joy, and happiness into words without potentially getting banned from this server.

Jokes aside I am very happy that ||my rocky bois have been OFFICIALLY added instead of being a separate mod.||

[dense turret]

does your enemyhealthbars mod show the partial-not-quite-damage that pikmin do? or just regular full damage

[tiny sable]

It just show regual damage

[remote tree]

I dont know how so im fine if you dont but i hope you can add it so that it does do that

[tiny sable]

mabey

[remote tree]

Potato lawsuit incoming, also if your adding these officially, add pikmin 4 guys in another update after the beta to final transition if u can

Maybe even the 251 bois

Anyway brb

Back

Do enemies use the same hitbox to eat pikmin that they do for players

If so, i think they need there own hitboxes

And even only able to attack pikmin on the ground

[dense turret]

support could be epic...

[quaint echo]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO 100,000 DOWNLOADS

[wind torrent]

don’t worry i’ve already called my lawyers

[tiny sable]

Nintendo lawsuit incoming

[quaint echo]

So we’re just ignoring this?

[wind torrent]

yes

[quaint echo]

Understood

[tiny sable]

no

it almost makes me wanna release the full version early

but I don't want to pull a cyberpunk 2077

[quaint echo]

I honestly would NOT mind at all if you did that

[wind torrent]

note when you eventually release the full version with pikmin 3 and 4 types ping me so i can deprecate the one i made

[tiny sable]

okay

[quaint echo]

Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

[wind torrent]

its probably better if you take your time

also are the pikmin 3 and 4 types gonna be in the addon mod

[tiny sable]

they will be in the full version

However, by defult they will only spawn after the first/second qouta

[quaint echo]

I like that

[dense turret]

can rock pikmin be disabled...

[tiny sable]

Yes

[dense turret]

epic

[tiny sable]

I've decided to make it so that any Pikmin type can be disabled by the host because I'm adding 3 and 4's types

[quaint echo]

https://youtu.be/my7031wIjLo?si=BIpuiuZHO3K-B_t1

[quaint echo]

You’ll still be updating it right?

[tiny sable]

wdym

[quaint echo]

If you release it early

[tiny sable]

Yeah but specifically because of that I probably won't release it early

I don't want to releese a bunch of updates adding things that should have been there on launch

[quaint echo]

Fair

but can you do it anyway

[quaint echo]

Joke btw

[tiny sable]

I mean, I kind of did that with the beta release. Which is part of the reason it is in the state it's in rn.

[quaint echo]

Even unfinished, it’s still amazing.

Unlike 2077

[tiny sable]

Yeah

[quaint echo]

Honestly even if it is broken as hell I would happily take it like a rat looking for scraps of food

[olive haven]

Can't wait to use reds until I get a rock onion and then replace them all

[quaint echo]

Pikmin 3:

[remote tree]

So, the higher the quota the stronger types available?

[tiny sable]

yeah sorta

[tiny sable]

dang why everone sayin no, I thought it would make sense

well it would be odd to have sprouts indoors now that I think about it

[remote tree]

btw, since ur making them officially, will ice pikmin freeze floods moving as well as the water becoming solid

[tiny sable]

Mabey...

But it will require 100 ice pikmin to freeze the entire map, like it does in pikmin 4

[remote tree]

true

so what about

sayyy

the vow hole

[tiny sable]

Oh shoot, but then I need to figure out how to make Ice Pikmin float in water...

[remote tree]

it may be hard to code but maybe it would by dynamic by how much water is connected with no ground between

[tiny sable]

Or I could just teleport entites and players to the top of the water when it freezes to prevent players from getting stuck and so I won't have to program the floating

[remote tree]

u still would for when theres ice pikkis but not frozen yet

[tiny sable]

I could have them play a floating animation while in water to make them look like they are floating

I'm already making a Path Finding system for winged Pikmin, I kind of don't want to do anything more complex than that.

[remote tree]

reasonable

[remote tree]

Why didn’t he get nommed

Also what we looking at

And will u add the shaking animations i suggested (different speeds of stun anim)

[olive haven]

was that 7 pikmin for some bottles

[tiny sable]

I also forgot Ice Pikmin can do this

[remote tree]

Cool but they look broken rn

Also, im excited for force onion config, it will be so colorful

[main blade]

by adding white onion, you allow trans flag

[remote tree]

Compat with ur health bar mod for the ice outline

[olive haven]

doing this on Adamance is going to be insane

[dense turret]

how does the beta's lc_office settings work with the update to lc_office?

[tiny sable]

I'm not sure, all the beta does is add a navmesh for the pikmin to walk onto the elevator. So if the update added a navmesh to the elevator by defult then you could just turn off the option in the beta's config to not add a navmesh

Unless LC_Office did something like add new floors or change the positions of the floors then everything should work normally

[tiny sable]

ok

[main blade]

ok but what are the things dealing with when flooded

[tiny sable]

wdym

[main blade]

how does flooding work with ice pikmin

[tiny sable]

You need 100 Ice pikmin to freeze the flooding, once the water is froze the flooding will stop moving, until the ice gets unthawed when the pikmin are removed then the flooding will (rather quickly) flood to the level it should be at if it wasn't frozen.

it shows 5 in the image for debugging reasons

[quaint echo]

I feel like it’s more of a neat little trick rather than something to rely on, after all you can just go to a moon thats not flooded. It’s a welcome addition though and I am happy that the ice bois are getting some love

[south apex]

Been gone so long that you’ve implemented Ice Pikmin

[tiny sable]

(In the full mod you would need 100 ice pikmin to freeze the flooding, but I set it to 5 to show off the freezing)

[green imp]

Question are they ice

[tiny sable]

yes

[wind torrent]

is the ice slippery

[main blade]

Add wollywog

[tiny sable]

no because I don't want to implement slippery physics for player movement

[main blade]

How about ice geysers on dine and rend

[tiny sable]

what ice geysers?

[main blade]

Create

:nosey:

For uce hazard

[tiny sable]

i'm sorry, whats uce hazard?

[main blade]

Mote

🥺

[tiny sable]

???

[wind torrent]

SPIDER

[tiny sable]

Rock Pikmin now get planted into the ground when crushed

[main blade]

heres the question though

planted pikmin are counted as seperate and not affected by the ships come home whistle, right

[quaint echo]

They come back up after a bit

[main blade]

still matters

otherwise youd have underground peeps moving towards the ship

[dense turret]

if you enter mineshaft through a fire exit, get pikmin to grab an item and then go to the main entrance with the elevator upwards, and then you whistle them off, they just drop the item into the pit 🥹

[quaint echo]

HOW DOES IT RUN SO WELL

[tiny sable]

No, planted rock pikmin will still respond to the ship whistle. However, they will only start to go back once they digged themselves back up.

They basiclly act like pikmin that are hit with a stun grenade

[quaint echo]

Petition to add a little buyable upgrade that adds a separate counter that tells you the amount of Pikmin sprouts currently in existence

[tiny sable]

maybe

Updated TODO list

[quaint echo]

Imagine adaptive music in lethal company

Also I saw the word “playtesters”

[tiny sable]

me myself and I

[quaint echo]

I was about to ask-

Also GLOW PIKMIN AAAAAAAA

They’d be perfect for eclipsed moons giving players a genuine reason to go to one, a high risk high reward kinda deal.

Nvm I read further and saw what you’re planning with them and I like that a lot more

[dense turret]

pikmin get stuck on brutality from generic moons, unable to route into the ship. they just route next to it and then stay still forever

[quaint echo]

What moon is this?

[dense turret]

titan

[quaint echo]

Since when did titan have a friggin elevator?

[tiny sable]

thats because Generic Moons does have a navmeshlink for the ship. I'll try to see if I can add an exception for moons that don't have ship links

[quaint echo]

I meant the interior

[dense turret]

lc_office

[quaint echo]

Thank you so much

[proud mantle]

9AM or 9PM?

[tiny sable]

9PM

whoops

Rock Pikmin throw themselves at enemies rather than just hitting them

[quaint echo]

EEEEEEEEEEEE

gimmie

[south apex]

Oh there’s also Rock Pikmin now

Wow I’ve missed a lot

[tiny sable]

The thing is I just recently decided to add the typs from 3 and 4

[tiny sable]

Winged Pikmin path finding test

[green imp]

Are you adding glow it would be cool in eclipse they were the only ones to spawn inside and out and stead of an onion a lumanul sorry if I miss pronounced that and at main tricknul and you need to kill to survive there still would be piles inside but not that much that would be cool but you got so much on your list that could be it’s own update

[wind torrent]

i think its lumiknol and triklinol

or something like that

im probably as wrong as you are

[quaint echo]

Actually you nailed it

[tiny sable]

I already have some plans on how Glow Pikmin will be implemented

"After quota 3 A Lumiknoll will have a chance of spawning like a sprout does.
After 9:00PM, the Lumiknoll will activate and will spawn in Glow Pikmin when an item is given to it (The number that spawned is based on the Item's Pikmin Weight).
When the day ends, Glow Pikmin in the ship will have a chance of becoming a glow seed instead of leaving.
Glow seeds will only work indoors or after 9:00PM, Glow Pikmin will not follow leaders after outside before 9:00PM.
Glow Pikmin will be available all day during eclipsed moons but will be less powerful before 9:00PM due to it not being totally nighttime."

[green imp]

Yeah, but think about it people are going to need scrap more than anything why would they risk it especially on higher quotas

[tiny sable]

Glow Pikmin are so powerful that it might be worth trading in scrap for some.

[green imp]

Yeah, there’s only one way to find out still it’s a cool idea. Either way your thing I mean.

[quaint echo]

I liked the glow pellet ideas maybe when a lumiknoll spawns all Pikmin sprouts are replaced with a pile of glow pellets

[quaint echo]

Never mind I like this more

[main blade]

just have the funni ones as an item

you put them into a glowknoll

and get glow pikmin

and they should be usable as flashlights

[tiny sable]

I attempted to make a Pikmin 2 model for winged pikmin

then I realized I'm not good at editing models

But I could make a Pikmin 2 model for rock pikmin

[quaint echo]

theyre already low poly bc of the rock lmao

[green imp]

Make the pikmin 2 Rock pikmin a default blender cylinder with googly eyes in a stem

https://tenor.com/view/bigtop-burger-bigtop-steve-juul-unthinkable-things-to-my-mind-and-body-gif-21153114

[quaint echo]

hes probably on Arboreal Frippery

[south apex]

Bro got the blender shaded smooth treatment

[quaint echo]

Oh man

[dense turret]

my single blue pikmin...he died in the incident...

[tiny sable]

[tiny sable]

Ice Pikmin can now freeze enemies

[remote tree]

Make the animation jolt to a stop and make a shaking animation as it stops

Also do one of these:

1. make your health bar mod a dependancy and make the ice health a thing
2. Make the ice texture graduak
3. Both (minus healthbar dependancy)

Also i think spiderpositionfix may be a dependancy looking at that

(Unless halting the animation fixes it anyway)

[remote tree]

Atleast the shatter effect is correct, but i would suggest despawning the bodies

[remote tree]

Just now realising but the ice pikmin dont look like ice (same for the actual ice texture)

Like it doesnt look right even tho its just missing trancparancy

[main blade]

note, cna you not do one of those

dependancies are annoying

and dont worry about gradual, freezing suddenly is good, makes ice less reliable, which keeps you on edge

I think its good

[quaint echo]

Maybe to see how close an enemy is to freezing it slowly becomes more light blue

[green imp]

Yeah Pigman do kind of make the game will be a bit easier so I feel like a bad situation should be harder a nice pikmin just Kaina negate that but yeah it’s more of a risk I like it. I don’t make them freeze when they get eaten.

[main blade]

I would prefer they not be incredibly busted

Because the only way to stun enemies is stun grenade, ice is a new thing altogether

[tiny sable]

In the actual mod it really takes a lot longer for enemies to freeze, but I lowered the threshold for the showcase.

[quaint echo]

Give us early access and my soul belongs to you

[tiny sable]

I might be able to get the full version out by July, mabey around the same time Switch 2 Launches.

But I'm not sure if thats gonna put the mod in danger if getting taken down tho

[main blade]

ping us all day 1

[tiny sable]

1: I can still add enemy health bar compat without making them a dependency, which I will do.
2: That is actually kind of difficult to do, because in unity, you can't just simply make a texture overlay fade in for a material.
3: mabey

[green imp]

Please do I know that I don’t really say much that is because busy with my own projects

[tiny sable]

Do you wanna be pinged as well?

[main blade]

its important to do this so we can all get in in the event of ninty swingin that hammer

[proud mantle]

Hell yeah add me

[green imp]

Yes please

[green imp]

Thanks man

[south apex]

[quaint echo]

[plush pike]

Hell yeah!

[dense turret]

could i get an addition

[main blade]

I cant wait for nintendo to kill this mod and everyone who downloaded it to delete it from their devices as to stop this evil pikmin ripoff, as nintendo would love us to do

[quaint echo]