#Biodiversity - Expanding Lethal Company's flora and fauna.
wicked sable
soft raft
i would infact, not leave it
wicked sable
runic reef
the poolroom will stay immune to it, since i had to give it alternative water
runic reef
i would infact, not leave it
tee hee
frozen mist
it was made as a config on Biodiversity’s side
if paco then why horse?
wicked sable
i would infact, not leave it
frozen mist
wicked sable
if paco then why horse?
wh-
frozen mist
@clear jolt Explain
runic reef
the poolroom will stay immune to it, since i had to give it alternative water
if it was a problem in the pool that would totally warrant a fix
wicked sable
runic reef
since it would ruin the entire room and be a huge problem
but uhm
the other one is funny
its still problematic… but
interesting
clear jolt
<@161039146008182784> Explain
clear jolt
QuicksandTrigger
wicked sable
QuicksandTrigger <:greed:1200418319694577754>
runic reef
QuicksandTrigger <:greed:1200418319694577754>
what about cave water
soft raft
@clear jolt do my taxes
runic reef
clear jolt
what about cave water
I forgor
But you don't have to worry about it if you use PlayerHinderer, for it is not a QuicksandTrigger
soft raft
please paco, rodrigo is on his rodriod
wicked sable
<@161039146008182784> can i get ice cream
Doesn’t the scrap item thats ur green bird spawn a sea mine? 
inland cloak
some ben and jerry's blood of the innocent flavor please 
runic reef
But you don't have to worry about it if you use `PlayerHinderer`, for it is _not...
poolrooms uses said thing, garden doesnt
So i could fix it when i get access again
But… its so fucking funny
clear jolt
Lol
runic reef
my rooms are buggy rn anyways i need to patch them
the api itself needs an update alongside my rooms
compact creek
unless it causes problems then i dont see anything wrong with it
it doesnt even damage you
inland cloak
mr beefoversity 
compact creek
should be fine unless he complains
runic reef
The only problem I can see is being annoying or maybe clipping people out of the pocket room
inland cloak
are you conductive scrap btw beef
compact creek
hmm
clear jolt
what about cave water
It do this
runic reef
which in that case its a long way down
compact creek
are you conductive scrap btw beef
sure
compact creek
i eat lead
runic reef
which in that case its a long way down
800 units down
wicked sable
rotating babies
runic reef
you will fall from space
compact creek
runic reef
https://tenor.com/view/yum-tools-eat-taste-gif-17547468
me
compact creek
this is why im conductive
runic reef
if youre conductive what am i
compact creek
i also run a train as a side job
frozen mist
the api itself needs an update alongside my rooms
So what exactly is wrong with the API?
compact creek
wicked sable
Now we have to put in beef as a scrap item and make it conducive
clear jolt
runic reef
So what exactly is wrong with the API?
storing and returning rooms causes duplications
until you reset the lobby
also a bug where very rarely people get pulled in with you??? Its super hard to consistently recreate
hard helm
crazy
compact creek
Now we have to put in beef as a scrap item and make it conducive
im literally a scrap in code rebirth
rn im just on my face
vestal plume
oh you probably need to tag your stuff with spawndenial lol
if it's an interior it wouldn't have happened
pocket rooms are a very new thing relative to biodiversity so we never accounted for it
vestal plume
<@161039146008182784> Explain
is paco your personal chat gpt assistant now LMAO
vestal plume
not sure what determines water as swimmable for him or not
quicksand trigger with isWater
it be in the pins
vestal plume
what about cave water
either a y check or some other check prevents interiors from being affected
sacred delta
what about cave water
Cave water has a separate “inside water” thing enabled unless my memory is brokens
You can also give whatever object has the quicksand trigger a SpawnDenialPoint tag and it won’t spawn there
vestal plume
ye it's an easy fix
inland cloak
Evil monty be like:
No its a hard break
compact creek
compact creek
inland cloak
The biosphere is constantly evolving and changing
Next we will have ogopogo with wings
compact creek
When bio update?
actually hopefully not too far off
we've got a fun thing to release
it's nearly there, just needs some tweaks, bug fixes and additions before it is fully ready
it isn't an enemy, but it's fun trust
sacred delta
It’s the announcement that biodiversity is merging with CodeRebirth
livid jewel
I DON'T TRUST
sacred delta
hi Mel
inland cloak
Hi toast
sacred delta
Not you
inland cloak
Say it back
livid jewel
NOT ME
sacred delta
The other Mel
livid jewel
NOT ME
inland cloak
say it back toasty
inland cloak
Now throw it back
sacred delta
livid jewel
we're all waiting
sacred delta
@pale sedge do it instead
pale sedge
compact creek
prisma flower
<:greed:1200418319694577754>
solid flax
runic reef
<:greed:1200418319694577754>
vase of tortured souls
AAAAH
AAAAAAAAAH
AAAAEEEUHHHH
compact creek
runic reef
”heh, do you even vomit blood daily? No? Thats what i thought. Youre not a REAL masker.”
compact creek
pfft removing the top has this
hot cairn
New modded item:
Rare masked pot, if user is killed while holding it they revive as a masked enemy.
compact creek
compact creek
New modded item:
Rare masked pot, if user is killed while holding it they reviv...
wait that's actually fire
vestal plume
truly fire
tropic ingot
Is the point of boom birds on Rend is for them to always spawn...?
compact creek
wdym
tropic ingot
Nothing else spawns during the day on Rend
Since there's little competition, the spawnrate for boom birds is very high
pale sedge
Only 1 boom bird takes space iirc
Any other boom bird doesnt add a space on the spawn
Or whatever it was called
tropic ingot
I know
pale sedge
Might be miss remembering tho
tropic ingot
That's not what we're asking
Is the point of boom birds on Rend for them to constantly bombard you every time you land, since they're the only thing that spawns during the day there?
compact creek
Is the point of boom birds on Rend for them to constantly bombard you every time...
i wouldnt say thats the "point" i think that just so happens to be the case since no other creatures exist
vestal plume
there are supposed to be other creatures filling the spawn pool during the day
they're just not released
tropic ingot
I see
inland cloak
Cheese do you love parmesan 🥺
inland cloak
Cheese do you love ricotta 🥺
charred ore
SeaLion Rigo do you like seal 🥺
compact creek
pale sedge
Cheese do you love ricotta 🥺
depends nyehehehe
inland cloak
Cheese do you love mozzarella 🥺
inland cloak
Cheese do you love blue cheese 🥺
tropic ingot
All this talk about cheese rlly wants to make us add Gorgonzola to our modpack
pale sedge
and blue:true.....
tropic ingot
Cheese is our favorite food
pale sedge
is mine too!!!
tropic ingot
Oh yipee
inland cloak
Cheese do you love feta 🥺
soft raft
more speciifically pizza :3333333333333
name yourself ThepizzaXD then
pale sedge
first time hearing about it, i dont think ive ever tried
pale sedge
name yourself ThepizzaXD then
the name goes back to baby era so its too personal to change
tropic ingot
Idk all I can describe about is that it's caviar but cheese
Caviar already gives us psychic pain knowing it's fish eggs
soft raft
the name goes back to baby era so its too personal to change
your mom called you cheese?
pale sedge
ye i also dont know what cottage is
pale sedge
your mom called you cheese?
nah, my friends :3
inland cloak
lightning round cheese, gouda, havarti, cheddar, old cheddar, swiss, maggot cheese, camembert
soft raft
nah, my friends :3
okay pizza crust
pale sedge
okay pizza crust
zoo zilon
soft raft
ignore the later clips
inland cloak
xuxulion
tropic ingot
Pizza crust is delicious
pale sedge
pizzaolan
tropic ingot
Unrelated, but does anyone know what weathers spawn on Gorgonzola?
vestal plume
All this talk about cheese rlly wants to make us add Gorgonzola to our modpack
it's peak
wintry lotus
nah, my friends :3
Da Cheese
pale sedge
me melting cheese
grilled cheese :3
tropic ingot
What's the intended way to kill an ogopogo?
compact creek
What's the intended way to kill an ogopogo?
yes
it is "possible"
but he's very very very strong
crystal cliff
What's the intended way to kill an ogopogo?
pale sedge
that was not the question xD
i dont think there is an intended way to kill it
but only way ive seen is with cruiser
tropic ingot
@vestal plume Monty
What is the strat to kill coil-crabs without taking damage
It seems like I always take damage, even when going around corners or using stamina perservation
compact creek
hit from as far away as possible in a wide open area
run really fast away, keeping eye contact if possible
keep doing that
tropic ingot
>hit from as far away as possible in a wide open area
>run really fast away, kee...
So conserve stamina, hit them from the front, and instantly run backwards while maintaining eye contact?
tropic ingot
Ty, will try that
Unrelated, but what would be a good weight for a cabinet/jester respectively on Gorgonzola
Blob:52,Centipede:32,Crawler:12,Girl:1,Flowerman:8,Hoarding bug:28,Puffer:38,Spring:8,Butler:38,Masked:10,Nutcracker:2,Clay Surgeon:8,Maneater:51,Cabinet:5,Bunker Spider:0,Lasso:0,Jester:0,Mannequin:0,Headless Mannequin:0,Broken Mannequin:0
I might not add a jester but the cabinet rlly fits here
Wait
It's already in the spawn weight string
What
Oh wait no it's by default 5 weight nvm
So yeah
vestal plume
So conserve stamina, hit them from the front, and instantly run backwards while ...
what I do is get some distance and start running from far away, then drive-by hit them w the shovel and never stop running
tropic ingot
what I do is get some distance and start running from far away, then drive-by hi...
That didn't work lol
Wdym by, "drive-by"
What I did was hit them with a shovel while running over them
wintry lotus
i dont think there is an intended way to kill it
It can die???????
scenic burrow
Yeah
Would the fucking Wesley Nuke kill it actually
Idk the output of that thing
wicked vault
Death note it
crystal cliff
Would the fucking Wesley Nuke kill it actually
Would Wesley kill it?
oblique python
Would nuke wesley it?
mild crater
Would it nuke wesley
latent fog
What's the intended way to kill an ogopogo?
20 hits with a shovel or a few shotgun shots from point blank can kill it.
hot cairn
Hey my friend said your mod caused two people to be teleported-
sacred delta
Hey my friend said your mod caused two people to be teleported-
Wait does biodiversity cause this??
hot cairn
Wait does biodiversity cause this??
that's what they told me-
sacred delta
This happens frequently in only a few of my modpacks and all of those have biodiversity lmao
vestal plume
teleported to?
sacred delta
In the teleporter
vestal plume
i think i remember that yeah
hot cairn
is there a fix?
vestal plume
uuh only thing that messes with the teleporter is boom birds, but that only causes it to malfunction and not tp someone
it doesn't make two people get tp'd, but I remember it happened to someone I played with a while back
long while back
hot cairn
huh
idk how that's caused then
is there like a way to fix it
or a cause of it?
cause I'm unsure it would be in my modpack
hidden pollen
Not a lot of info here, could be another mod causing unintended interactions in combination with biod
I'll mark it down regardless
compact creek
no clue tbh
vestal plume
I'd send logs
hidden pollen
Thank you rodrigo
tropic ingot
Apparently giant sapsuckers can attack boom birds, lol.
crystal cliff
Murder bird
sacred delta
Apparently giant sapsuckers can attack boom birds, lol.
good
They deserve it
Eviscerate every one of those boom bitches
vestal plume
Apparently giant sapsuckers can attack boom birds, lol.
it's a really cool interaction
tropic ingot
Did some art of some of your little shit stains
tropic ingot
Tyy :3
vestal plume
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HD38-5kboAAt-Ie.gif
is that lolbit
void onyx
is that lolbit
yes
solid flax
no way a vase is lookmaxxing rn
graceful sedge
Pot of Rizz allows me to draw 25 cards OR make a moon.
upbeat holly
NOOOOOOOOOO- that coffee cake took me ALL MONTH to prepare!!
crude turret
Ogopogo on new march will be brutal
pale sedge
Ogo rewrite to work with the new water system i guess
vestal plume
it's been planned for a bit, they'll have to see how the new system works first tho
and remember to spoiler all things v80, be respectful
goes for all of you
inland cloak
can you spoiler your ||v80|| in your message it spoils the update number
vestal plume
no
crystal cliff
I wonder if my Ogo compat guide thing will still be relevant. Wherever that is
hidden pollen
||zeekers killed carjack bloke||
inland cloak
||you lost the game||
void willow
||you won the game||
vestal plume
||i gooped it||
oblique python
||i slurp it||
thorn scroll
||i slimed it||
cosmic widget
the new monsters in the recent update are cool
wintry lotus
the new monsters in the recent update are cool
Im adding the cadaver plants to my salad
hot cairn
Im adding the cadaver plants to my salad
lost pendant
https://tenor.com/view/lolbit-fnaf-fnaf-meme-help-wanted-vr-gif-1487016180957159...
idk if this is a hot take
idk why glup shittos are considered a bad thing
its kinda fun to have the most random asf lore tidbits
but I always hear it used in a negative way
vestal plume
i don't think anyone hates glup shittos I think glup shittos are awesome
like mimcket and telliot
lost pendant
i don't think anyone hates glup shittos I think glup shittos are awesome
I mean the original context of glup shitto was mockery
of star wars lore nerds XP
vestal plume
yeah but people use it affectionately now which is neat
lost pendant
yeah but people use it affectionately now which is neat
we are all glup shittos in beanie's story
real lore
@runic reef
can you confirm
runic reef
i love glup shittos
slender oxide
i don't think anyone hates glup shittos I think glup shittos are awesome
I can be gulp shitto hater if we need one
Gulp shitto sent me into bunker spider 🙁
tropic ingot
I unfortunately believe that ogopogos are impossible to play against on v80 March
The moon is way smaller and cramped now
inland cloak
Thank you backwater gunkfish
runic reef
thank you ogowater pogopish
vestal plume
I unfortunately believe that ogopogos are impossible to play against on v80 Marc...
yeah lol
if I were in the lead I'd probably relocate them to that one lake near the back of the map
runic reef
if I were in the lead I'd probably relocate them to that one lake near the back ...
relocate them to fish bowl furniture item
sacred delta
if I were in the lead I'd probably relocate them to that one lake near the back ...
Is this confirming Monty is committing treason and becoming the new lead of biodiversity again?
Then hes coding everything himself and releasing wax soldier tomorrow??
vestal plume
upbeat holly
https://tenor.com/view/snail-meme-tiktok-gif-26687172
tropic ingot
Fuck you
wintry lotus
:c
oblique python
Fuck you
compact creek
incredibly important reference for a concept
runic reef
incredibly important reference for a concept
iron furnace
incredibly important reference for a concept
compact creek
runic reef
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488573174453899416/1489994879227531425/A...
animate the fire and have it shake
charred ore
what in the world
upbeat holly
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488573174453899416/1489994879227531425/A...
Ed Roth in lethal: yes yes yes ye-
slender tapir
i think v81 might've broken biodiversity because it isn't working for me anymore
wicked vault
Dw I'll look into it soon
tired cedar
Yeah, it is indeed bricked. It wasn't working even in the first v80 branch.
It probably needs a recompile, but I look forward to seeing it return soonish!
compact creek
inland cloak
Cheese is trying to melt him
crystal cliff
we're canceling each other out now
compact creek
imbalance
zinc breach
oblique python
Except they do not exist
They better nuke the whole moon at the derpature, feeling how long their development takes lmao
compact creek
Except they do not exist
They better nuke the whole moon at the derpature, feeli...
unless you can magically find coders
runic reef
Whats a coder
runic reef
I thought they were mythical creatures
oblique python
mo tortures morvself
stuck idol
copper kiln
@vestal plume any ideas on when you'll add Ogopogo compatibility with Melanie's fishing mod?
soft raft
what does that even mean
inland cloak
Alligator upon ye
vestal plume
<@511729019721482240> any ideas on when you'll add Ogopogo compatibility with Me...
I'm not part of the project anymore
would be @compact creek and @hidden pollen the ones to ask about that
hidden pollen
Probably not anytime soon? We haven't even updated biod to the newest version
vestal plume
tbh i didnt even know melanie had a fishing mod
vestal plume
Probably not anytime soon? We haven't even updated biod to the newest version
Speaking of you should try and get people to do that
I don't think there were even any pings for coders when v80 got off the beta branch
hidden pollen
I did mention I'm not that guy
Also it's just zig as of now right?
vestal plume
I did mention I'm not that guy <:plink:1308332227318255696>
Also it's just zig...
as long as it's a quick patching/recomp/bug fix you can ping anyone
if they're too busy to do it they'll tell you, no shame in asking people
role-wide ping works if you don't wanna single out people
frosty mantle
pale sedge
😭
I am so so sorry
I thought adding a \ before would make it not work
Tysm atomic :( never again
soft raft
do it again
pale sedge
Do it yourself
soft raft
i dun wanna
graceful sedge
xu's too busy poking mel with the dev stick
copper kiln
what does that even mean
I want to catch an Ogopogo
runic reef
<@511729019721482240> any ideas on when you'll add Ogopogo compatibility with Me...
i love how you phrased it as “when” as if this is guaranteed to get added
and that they need to add it
copper kiln
i love how you phrased it as “when” as if this is guaranteed to get added
Yeah its called manipulation
sacred delta
Hi when will you convince my dad to come home
runic reef
Hi **when** will you convince my dad to come home
not aggresive enough
hi, NOW you bring my dad home
pale sedge
sacred delta
not aggresive enough
Hi when will you convince my dad to come home you orange bastard
peak trench
god they're SO bald
vestal plume
dude you've been talking thread I made specifically because I'm not part of Biodiversity's dev team for the past like 2 months 😭
mick!!!! 😭
vestal plume
||i slimed it||
||i grimed it||
vestal plume
No one told me or I forgot somehow
there was an announcement here n shit lol
you good tho i just found it really funny you didn't know
hot cairn
it might be cause I been in that thread before that announcement possibly
or as said forgotten it
pale sedge
The thread came after
vestal plume
I only made the thread after the announcement lol
hot cairn
OH yea I think I remember a little
vestal plume
yea
pale sedge
Lole
hot cairn
thorn scroll
Wait biodiversity isnt part of monty team anymore?!?!
@vestal plume thank you... Biodivesity...
compact creek
oh
yeah
wicked vault
i think v81 might've broken biodiversity because it isn't working for me anymore
We now have a working v81 biodiversity build on github, now it's up to the ceos to decide when it's gonna be uploaded 😊
slender tapir
We now have a working v81 biodiversity build on github, now it's up to the ceos ...
nice, im so happy to have this mod on v81 again 🔥
compact creek
Will there be new enemies?
there will be eventually
hot cairn
modern loom
We now have a working v81 biodiversity build on github, now it's up to the ceos ...
YAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAY
copper kiln
We now have a working v81 biodiversity build on github, now it's up to the ceos ...
Wax Soldier?
worldly river
The Half Life 3 of Biodiversity 😔
stable pumice
Like actually lmao
vestal plume
of lc modding in general tbh
compact creek
We now have a working v81 biodiversity build on github, now it's up to the ceos ...
Tbh I think we'll be releasing this once the... feature... is fully ready and bugtested
Since it's so close now
pale sedge
:O
vocal zealot
the TODAY update 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
fr though super excitied to see whatever comes up from this mod
inland cloak
🕯️
pale sedge
Shhhhhh rodigo let me think
vocal zealot
hmm.. the wasol xdier.. i like that name.
inland cloak
chont wheyt 4 whass xoodlieer
compact creek
tbh i'm surprised he still kept this building despite the rework
vestal plume
it's goated
worldly river
it's.... so ass i'm sorry
vocal zealot
Looking back It was like march's one notable feature aside from the giant circle of water in the middle lmao
crystal cliff
This is the perfect building
vocal zealot
I find it reallt charming actually im a fan of that thing
vestal plume
it's.... so ass i'm sorry
you have no soul and no swag and your moons raggedy and yo mama dead
vestal plume
Looking back It was like march's one notable feature aside from the giant circle...
AND THE MUD PIT
don't forget the mud pit
vestal plume
I find it reallt charming actually im a fan of that thing
I prefer it over copypasted Vow on adamance
worldly river
you have no soul and no swag and your moons raggedy and yo mama dead
it's literally vow's roof!
vestal plume
that you don't even see unless you jetpack☝️
vocal zealot
Wait is that fr??
I remember hearing the two desert moons are just copy pasted and rotated or something but not that
vestal plume
Wait is that fr??
the buildings on March and Adamance are just pieces of the Vow building yeah
vocal zealot
Ohhh wow
vestal plume
I remember hearing the two desert moons are just copy pasted and rotated or some...
the buildings on Embrion, Assurance and Offense are the same but rotated yeah
worldly river
vestal plume
you're just mad cuz it's swag asf
crude turret
Re-using assets in creative ways like this is peak
vestal plume
Re-using assets in creative ways like this is peak
truth baby
worldly river
also pipe ass texture half cut cylinder.................
i'm all for reusing assets but just a tiny bit more could've been good
vocal zealot
Okay zeekers when are we getting the moon that has us tumbling down this giant pipe like in hotel mario
vestal plume
also pipe ass texture half cut cylinder.................
it's supposed to be one of these
so I think it's perfectly fine
vocal zealot
Yeah
crude turret
Kenji I am sorry but I am not sorry we have to kill you over this
vestal plume
could've used a little more work or a retexture but atp it's iconic and I'd be sad if it was gone lol
worldly river
could've used a little more work or a retexture but atp it's iconic and I'd be s...
i can get behind this
vestal plume
Kenji I am sorry but I am not sorry we have to kill you over this
wait until you find out beanie hates rend
vocal zealot
WHAT
crude turret
I know . . .
worldly river
vanilla snow moons..... bleak
vestal plume
me releasing the vanilla freaks on beanie so they eat him alive
runic reef
Re-using assets in creative ways like this is peak
the issue is when you reuse minor details from an existing higher detail thing, the reused minor details look kinda shitty
because its literally just less detail than the existing stuff… it feels like its missing things, because it is
runic reef
WHAT
i dont hate the layout or enemies i just dislike the… lack of debris and whatnot
should be more fallen twignits and maybe some plant
and snow piles
i wanna interact w the snow more
crude turret
the issue is when you reuse minor details from an existing higher detail thing, ...
In the case of some of the fire exit buildings, I totally get it but in 100% honesty I wasn't even aware of March re-using that part of Vow's entrance until 10 minutes ago.
worldly river
(me reusing the same building on Row and Kiln ✌️ )
worldly river
but they're a BIT different
it's just the same shape
me being zeekers using the offense building EVERYWHERE
just rotating it
vestal plume
because its literally just less detail than the existing stuff… it feels like it...
I really get that with stuff like adamance's building
not at all with March tho cuz it has more detail than the original piece of geometry had
like I said it could use slight texture tweaks tho
vestal plume
(me reusing the same building on Row and Kiln ✌️ )
and that's GOOD and you should keep doing that because they still look good
crystal cliff
I am a #marchbuilding supporter
vestal plume
🙂↕️
vestal plume
me being zeekers using the offense building EVERYWHERE
it's so ridiculous how it's also used on rend when he could've just used a rounded out cube shape
i love it sm
worldly river
I'm an assurance supporter 🥰
crude turret
peam
vestal plume
fiya
crystal cliff
I'm an assurance supporter 🥰
clever
crude turret
Wonder if Zeeks plans on reworking the terrain of Ass or Offence at some point
It is super noticeable that is is the same base mesh
worldly river
i do think so, he did add a lot of new ambiance music, not only for forest/swamp but for "desert/canyon" so.....
idk if he did change it in vanilla but the files are there
vestal plume
oh I see it I see it
mostly here
I personally don't mind it cuz offense is literally just evil assurance, right down to originally being the same rock but separating due to ... something
but moon reworks are always nice as long as they don't Dine the fuck out of offense
crude turret
Dine in it's current state feels so messy . . .
compact creek
don't worry the butlers will clean it up
vocal zealot
should be more fallen twignits and maybe some plant
Real asf actually, like after march, everything feels much more emptier. March feels so lush and id like for other moons to have more depth to them like that
And a certain new outdoor enemy. Please. Please zeekers I need this
crude turret
wax soldier
vestal plume
Dine in it's current state feels so messy . . .
it really does
I think you don't need much to make it better tbh
or atleast a cleaner experience
compact creek
Oh btw I'd like to mention
The next Biodiversity update will mostly just be patching it for V80, but we also have 2 features that we're prepping
Both are inches away from completion
runic reef
you know i just now realized i dont have a single vanilla main left on my moons at all anymore
its all beanbuildings
some fire exits are still the vanilla ones i think
even my first moon has had a custom facility since launch… 
maybe i secretly HATE vanilla buildings
vestal plume
speaking of your bean builds, I always felt they were a little small based on the screenshots
they look fucking incredible they just feel a lil tiny sometimes
like the 1st one doesn't need too much adjusting from what the screenshot shows, but the 2nd one looks like it could work being x2 as big
vestal plume
even my first moon has had a custom facility since launch… <:Anguish:14468961364...
you're just that goated <3
vestal plume
like the 1st one doesn't need too much adjusting from what the screenshot shows,...
but yeah idk if it's because of the smokestack or because of the fact it's based off the experimentation farmhouse
but the 2nd one looks a little too itty bitty
vocal zealot
I LOVE how the models look there, but I do think it could actually be sized up yeah
I sadly haven't been to the moons myself though, but was very impressed when seeing the upload earlier
vestal plume
I LOVE how the models look there, but I do think it could actually be sized up y...
the models are so goooood
beanie is super talented
but the scale is just a tad off yeah
modern loom
Oh btw I'd like to mention
The next Biodiversity update will mostly just be patc...
When do u think itll be out?
compact creek
won't promise when
just know that both features are very close to being done
just a few touchups + a bit of testing on one
vestal plume
you guys should add a scrap that's a bowl of general chicken with rice
and add an eggroll enemy that comes with it
runic reef
speaking of your bean builds, I always felt they were a little small based on th...
yeah ive said that before
thats their main flaw
The issue is its hard to well
make room to make them huge
thallasics has increased in size 3 seperate times
symbiosis also needed a size up
runic reef
like the 1st one doesn't need too much adjusting from what the screenshot shows,...
the one thats a fire exit is a scaled down exp building with extra detail so that makes sense
i just couldn’t fit them if they were bigger
vestal plume
that makes sense I guess
I think if this bit here was at the same level as the other roofs it wouldn't look so out of place
would make it feel more like a different asset
that or maybe reducing the amount of these like, reinforcement beams?
im not entirely sure
vestal plume
make room to make them huge
I suppose so yeah, if you don't account for their size when mapping out the terrain it can get complicated
runic reef
that or maybe reducing the amount of these like, reinforcement beams?
i could change the mesh a bit
vestal plume
up to you! at the end of the day it still looks really good :]
runic reef
Does this mod still work in v80?
no
also monty isnt in the team anymore technically
beef and jacu are teh leaders
vestal plume
yeah
you should ask beef and jacu these questions
but no, it doesn't work in v80
but work is being done to release a v81 compatible version alongside new content
sacred delta
tbh i'm surprised he still kept this building despite the rework
The shape of it feels literally built for mineshaft
Which is strange when it’s one of the only interiors which can’t spawn mineshaft
runic reef
The shape of it feels literally built for mineshaft
wait ur right
runic reef
zeekers putting the only manor shaped building on adamance
runic reef
bro hasnt seen the teaser yet
what
new patreon post??
is he finally making good exterior buildings!?!?
sacred delta
v80 just came out he can’t have made another new patreon post
runic reef
bro hasnt seen the teaser yet
EXPLAIN BEEF BIBBLER
sacred delta
This is right about the time where he migrates to the north so he can work on another project until his annual LC update
runic reef
sacred delta
His schedule ever since v60 is so ass, but he’s an indie dev and WTTDP is actually fire so it’s excusable
sacred delta
does he not see it
Stop gatekeeping information steak head man
compact creek
i'm not gatekeeping it's literally IN THE PHOTO 😭
sacred delta
I don’t even know what I’m looking for 
compact creek
exactly
pale sedge
i think the same with the beanie stuff
at least in the screenshots
they look kinda small
like smaller than what it would actually be if it were a real place
vestal plume
i'm not gatekeeping it's literally IN THE PHOTO 😭
what is
it's literally just the gunkfish
bro think he me tryina vague post 💔
sacred delta
bro think he me tryina vague post 💔
It took me too many attempts to read this
I’m so tired
vestal plume
It took me too many attempts to read this
im sorry
Brother thinks he is me, in his attempts to vague post "broken heart emoticon"
vestal plume
copper kiln
Tbh I think we'll be releasing this once the... feature... is fully ready and bu...
YOU HEARD HIM ITS COMING OUT TOMORROW!
vestal plume
compact creek
you were looking for the same thing i was 😭😭😭😭😭
dont even blink dawg isnt on there
compact creek
YES
thorn scroll
vestal plume
no fucking shot
worldly river
wait where tf did you get the vow foliage from
#dev-moons message
prisma flower
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1263331414271594538/14925363742...
my day is blessed now thank you Kenji
soft raft
my day is blessed now thank you Kenji
That's an outdated version lol
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4473-f2-unity-editor-tricks/
I put it at the bottom here and I'll update it if fumo updates it again
vestal plume
<https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4473-f2-uni...
could these things go in #1175883003474485369 ?
they're mad useful and having them there would make em a lot easier to find
soft raft
Sure if I remember I'll add em there
compact creek
ragebait
compact creek
im just tryna test bro 😭
vocal zealot
they're so chilling i love them so much
runic reef
im just tryna test bro 😭
weezer
cyan flax
im just tryna test bro 😭
holy cat
tropic ingot
im just tryna test bro 😭
i love how feiopars are always eternally pogging
stiff anchor
hard flare
is there gonna be new update?
stiff anchor
ogopogo ate it
crude turret
Waxxing for Biodiversity to update, literally my #1 Biodiversity 
worldly river
Ogopoging for Biodiversity to update, literally my #2 Biodiversity 
crystal cliff
Boom Birding for Biodiversity to update, literally my #3 Biodiversity 
compact creek
is there gonna be new update?
things are looking up.
we seem to have gotten a fix for ogopogos killing via fall damage too so thats great
exotic oxide
Vermining for Biodiversity to update, litterally my #4 Biodiversity 
wide merlin
@vestal plume is biodiversity updating to the big 81 soon?
vestal plume
vestal plume
@compact creek @hidden pollen are the new leads so ask them
hidden pollen
Like beef said there's been progress. I reckon we might have something by the end of the month
-# We'll ping again, montyman!
pale sedge
@vestal plume is monty super cool and awesome?
vestal plume
maybe one of those
stiff anchor
*absolutely all of those
crude turret
<@511729019721482240> is monty super cool and awesome? <:stare:1360746416477175...
thats super fucking cool and badass to you
wise kelp
super fucking cool and badass team
bitter flare
runic reef
Boom Birding for Biodiversity to update, literally my #3 Biodiversity <:boiled:1...
Aloeing for Biodiversity to update, literally my #5 Biodiversity 
stiff anchor
Beetlering for Biodiversity to update, literally my #6 Biodiversity 
runic reef
Biodingle #7 
(the rest of the effor in this message was spent trying to fix wax soldier)
hot cairn
Favorite enemy ever:
Biodingle
vestal plume
I don’t have a question I just wanted to say hi <:stare:1360746416477175878>
hi toast
vestal plume
<@511729019721482240> are you gonna update this mod to v80 ?
no we're updating it to v81 actually
wicked vault
vestal plume
@wraith ember but yeah I feel like if he just toned down spawns for some creatures on certain moons or picked out a "signature threat" for each moon it'd be enough to set them apart
he already has this system he uses for cadavers where he has an entity spawn based on chance rather than weight which might be used to accomplish smth like that
wraith ember
yeah i've spoken with him about it before in the patreon chat (just a little bit) and i think we have slightly different philosophies of things
vestal plume
oh fr?
wraith ember
like i think easter eggs and forest giants spawning on experimentation is horrible
since it's the closest thing you get to a tutorial and having the rare chance to just get fucked over by weird stuff like that feels kind of unnecessary
same for infestations and meteor showers and such
he said something along the lines of "i think that sort of experience is essential to lethal company" and i suppose that is fair enough
vestal plume
I kinda fuck w that to some extent yeah
wraith ember
but he has made a couple of caveats like as of v80+ experimentation never has weather on the first day of a new quota
vestal plume
he already makes it so day 1 has no weather, right? or was that modded I forget
vestal plume
but he has made a couple of caveats like as of v80+ experimentation never has we...
that's sick
wraith ember
and he also mentioned that he plans to reduce the "chaos creep"
some of which has happened already with v80
vestal plume
yeah I think that's fair
wraith ember
like he mentioned he was gonna run through all of the moons with his friends and tone down ones that needed to be toned down
vestal plume
it used to be that only a few select moons were chaotic but then it turned to... only a few are sorta chill
wraith ember
and adamance got a bunch of outdoor spawn rate nerfs in v80 (on top of being a moon i imagine he playtested a bunch with his friends)
dine also got pretty substantially reworked
it used to have the second highest indoor power level after titan, now it has the same indoor power as rend
and the spawn rates were adjusted so you get enemies outside much closer to the end of the night instead of "there will be giants at 11 AM, count on it"
vestal plume
it used to have the second highest indoor power level after titan, now it has th...
i feel like that's fair considering what Dine is rn
wraith ember
anyways i got a little off topic there
vestal plume
and the spawn rates were adjusted so you get enemies outside much closer to the ...
oh nah yeah that was hot ass LOL
wraith ember
but all im trying to say
wraith ember
and he also mentioned that he plans to reduce the "chaos creep"
stuff like this gives me hope that we could eventually be due for a really large adjustment pass on everything
for a long time i've kinda just expected we'd only be getting minor scrap count tweaks and he'd only be adding new stuff to the spawn lists (new scrap, new enemies) as he made them
but adamance got super overhauled in v80
and offense actually got buffed for the first time since it was added (technically v50 "buffed" it but NOT REALLY!!!!)
vestal plume
i really gotta read 1a3's changelog man holy
vestal plume
and offense actually got buffed for the first time since it was added (technical...
no fucking shot
AND NO ONE TOLD ME
IM MR OFFENSE
what did they change?
wraith ember
factory/mineshaft chance changed from like 60/40 to 20/80
vestal plume
oh thats huge
wraith ember
and mineshafts themselves got smaller (at least it feels like they did) on top of having way better loot spread and navigation
vestal plume
I used to do that manually on packs LOL
wraith ember
so now offense actually spawns the most scrap of any free moon
vestal plume
and mineshafts themselves got smaller (at least it feels like they did) on top o...
i do know that part yeah, i fucking love new mineshaft
hot cairn
wraith ember
so now offense actually spawns the most scrap of any free moon
especially after the nerfs to adamance
vestal plume
FUCK YEAH BABY
hot cairn
Yeah new mineshaft is good
vestal plume
FUCK YEAH MOTHERFUCKER WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK
NO SHOTTTT MY GOAT IS META NOW
well, "meta"
wraith ember
he also adjusted every single enemy in the spawn pool but it was like really weird minute adjustments
stiff anchor
vestal plume
he also adjusted every single enemy in the spawn pool but it was like really wei...
as long as there's 8 coil heads and 5 thumpers ft. 235 mines and turrets im happy
wraith ember
like on the whole, easier enemies like snare fleas and spiders are very slightly more common
but like, coilheads increased from 25 weight to 27 weight
stiff anchor
as long as there's 8 coil heads and 5 thumpers ft. 235 mines and turrets im happ...
You aren't on Offense if it doesn't look like this inside
wraith ember
but like, coilheads increased from 25 weight to 27 weight
every adjustment that was made is on that level of small
vestal plume
thats fine tbh
I never thought the spawns on offense were bad I just thought the pay itself was bad
wraith ember
but the fact he did that at all is another reason i think it's possible we could actually get a serious revamp of spawn tables at some point
he just totally deleted butlers from adamance in v80
vestal plume
I think it'd be cool, again, if like we get more signature enemies and more themed spawns maybe
wraith ember
which i would not have personally done since i thought that made adamance pretty unique for a free moon
vestal plume
but idk if I personally mind the spawns on moons like offense, exp, dine, titan, etc
wraith ember
buuuut... maybe that could be done in other places to make stuff feel less samey
i feel like of all the free moons adamance and offense are the only two where the indoor spawns actually feel unique
crude turret
doesn't (or at least didn't) Adamance have a moderately hight chance for manors?
vestal plume
but idk if I personally mind the spawns on moons like offense, exp, dine, titan,...
some which feel blander could be made more interesting, definitely assurance and march felt kinda bland
crude turret
Still don't get why manors don't make butlers have a boosted spawn chance kinda like maneaters and mineshafts
wraith ember
every other free moon just feels like Equilibrium Soup where you're always gonna get some hoarding bugs, always gonna get some spiders, always gonna get some snare fleas, etc.
the bracken feels too common in a lot of places imo
vestal plume
he just totally deleted butlers from adamance in v80
that's kinda sad, I did think they added to the bullshit but I'm also glad cuz butlers + cadavers sounds like hell
wraith ember
there is no reason the bracken should spawn so frequently on offense since that entire moon is like combat focused (+coilheads for "fuck you" I Guess)
vestal plume
doesn't (or at least *didn't*) Adamance have a moderately hight chance for manor...
they did before but idk if thats the case anymore
I played so much adamance and saw not a single mansion the entire playthrough
and we died on day 21
wraith ember
adamance used to have the highest manor chance of any free moon
technically it still does, but like... at this point it's lower than embrion's chance of manor
it got reduced across like 4 separate patches
just over time
vestal plume
man thats really sad
wraith ember
anyways i think to a certain extent lethal company's entire "anything can happen anywhere at any time" shtick is a lot of fun and keeps each day feeling fresh
vestal plume
im lowkey tired of mineshaft, it's too common on too many moons atp
wraith ember
but i think there are some cases where it just feels excessive
wraith ember
hoarding bugs spawn literally everywhere except for rend and honestly that just feels like a wasted opportunity to give certain moons more of an identity
vestal plume
I think we can keep most moons less chaotic and more firm in the types of enemies that show up and their balancing, then let random events kinda throw a wrench into that
vestal plume
hoarding bugs spawn literally everywhere except for rend and honestly that just ...
i guess I never noticed that, didnt know they were everywhere
wraith ember
it's weird too because you read the fauna descriptions for moons and it feels like zeekerss intended there to be some sort of design with it
like
FAUNA: Ecosystem supports territorial behaviour.
FAUNA: A competitive ecosystem supports aggressive lifeforms.
if you were to read these two descriptions
could you honestly tell me which moon each of these is from
without looking
stiff anchor
Latter is Vow
wraith ember
that's a great guess
stiff anchor
Idk the previous one
wraith ember
but the latter is actually 'both vow and offense"
stiff anchor
Oh wtf
wraith ember
it's the exact same description for both
stiff anchor
They have the same?
wraith ember
even though they are nothing alike on the inside
wraith ember
the former is from assurance
the translation is "snare fleas and hoarding bugs spawn slightly more often than other moons"
but it doesnt matter because snare fleas and hoarding bugs spawn everywhere!!!!
stiff anchor
Yeah 
wraith ember
hoarding bugs are actually most common on embrion, the moon which is described as "devoid of biological life"
stiff anchor
Someone should make a mod that makes their bodies more transparent as per Zeekerss' original vision for the Hoarding Bug. They have fully modeled organs you can't feasibly observe during normal gameplay because of how opaque their bodies are.
I don't know if this is possible without making them look weird? But it sounds cool! Let's see them organs baby!!
void onyx
should add a Python-like creature, name it after Monty, then add like some kind of golden chalice, a Holy Grail even
solemn gate
should add a Python-like creature, name it after Monty, then add like some kind ...
The golden cup is a vanilla item
stiff anchor
Golden goblet
compact creek
> FAUNA: Ecosystem supports territorial behaviour.
> FAUNA: A competitive ecosy...
"FAUNA: Embrion is devoid of biological life."
is it?
solemn gate
How's the new update going?
compact creek
Like beef said there's been progress. I reckon we might have something by the en...
@solemn gate
(mb jacu)
compact creek
don't worry things are going well
solemn gate
Wait I think the prototax makes a cube shaped gas cloud in game, is that on purpose?
compact creek
we're fixing that in the next update
😭 no clue how it happened either
we're also adding collision checks so ogopogo can't grab you through walls and making it so that ogopogo doesn't deal fall damage anymore!
so plenty of good fixes
as for the log spam, it's a complicated issue that will probably need a large rewrite of him, so hopefully that can be worked out in a future update
besides, there's... other matters... to be addressed in that future update.
stiff anchor
I'm so excited. Ogopogo I miss you 💔
compact creek
oh he's terrible on march btw 😭
stiff anchor
STOP
compact creek
new march ogo is actually the devil
we're reducing spawn weights a LOT there
but if you get him
godspeed 😭
stiff anchor
compact creek
just know that zeekerss didn't limit the water pool patches to individual spots of water, it covers under terrain too
solemn gate
we're fixing that in the next update
Awesome, thank you
compact creek
we may have to find a workaround to that
solemn gate
Take your time, a good, pristine update is better than a rushed update
crystal cliff
doesn't ogo have a position override for moons where you can just set some coordinates? That might work if you find a decent spot for him
compact creek
that's what we're doing instead
vestal plume
> FAUNA: Ecosystem supports territorial behaviour.
> FAUNA: A competitive ecosy...
top is offense bottom is... vow?
vestal plume
You aren't on Offense if it doesn't look like this inside
exactlyyy lol
sorry for abandoning the conversation I had to go into class
I'll revisit some messages later
wraith ember
top is offense bottom is... vow?
top was assurance and bottom was both vow & offense
anyways this proves my point
id like to explore this more in BRB "soon" but maybe id also write a suggestion post about it at some point
im not sure how often those get attention but id at least like to get my thoughts out in an accessible location
vestal plume
top was assurance and bottom was both vow & offense
dang! i knew top was either assurance or offense, I copied part of it for my moon
vestal plume
im not sure how often those get attention but id at least like to get my thought...
that makes sense yeah
tbh I'd love to see you release something lax like a rebalance modpack or something that has more involved fixes that fit how you'd want things to work
cuz a lot of what I see on BRB is stuff you like but also think others might like, no?
wraith ember
cuz a lot of what I see on BRB is stuff you like but also think others might lik...
yeah BRB was originally supposed to be that but has kinda turned into "these are changes that probably wont be controversial at all" and "these are things people asked me for that id never use"
im not sure about just making a modpack since ideally id kind of want to steer brb in a more personal direction to get my ideas out there
but maybe one of these days
im also pretty happy with the state of vanilla (especially with v80) and a lot of stuff i want to change feels like itd be "subtle tweaks you need longterm playtime to observe"
and i feel like a lot of modpacks, generally, are more about big ideas and upfront presentation
especially since everybody has their own idea on how the game should be played
etc
crude turret
we need vanillapacks
stiff anchor
What is your definition of a vanillapack? Like a modpack that replicates the feeling of vanilla?
crude turret
I'm being facetious. It was either me saying that or something about the toilet leach basically being vanilla or the likes.
stiff anchor
Oh
wraith ember
lol everybody has their own definition of "vanilla based server nothing too crazy" but i am especially picky about that sort of thing
even half of the stuff ive implemented into chameleon i dont use
and almost all of my "additional content" i use is just restored stuff from previous versions (mapper, brown suit, holiday/halloween themed stuff, etc.)
for some people the locker is "vanilla enough" but it doesnt quite do it for me
etc.
i do want to shout out https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1319250541418909779 for being "my award for the mod which could most seamlessly fit into vanilla lethal company tomorrow" though
i will live and die for the honor of terra's scrap
stiff anchor
Should I download Terra's Scrap?
I have it in my pending mods section in my list of mods to check out
wraith ember
if you want "more scrap like vanilla" there is not a single better mod in existence than terra's scrap
crude turret
Yup
stiff anchor
Yeah I enjoy vanilla like scrap additions
wraith ember
it's all very aesthetically pleasing and fitting amongst the vanilla models
stiff anchor
I don't know of many good ones
wraith ember
the tuba especially feels like the sort of thing i could totally see zeekerss add
lol
i love the tuba
stiff anchor
Generic's Scrap and fiufkis Scrap mods are the only two I have (not using them right now but I like those two), other than yours and JackDeDestroyer's which only change how vanilla scrap items look.
I'll install Terra's Scrap rn and check it out!
crude turret
Both of those (Generic's and fiufkis) have some really awesome stuff, though a few I tend to disable.
stiff anchor
^^ Yeah like the pillow
stiff anchor
I get it lol
crude turret
The zapper from generic's is really funny
wraith ember
the only two scrap mods i use are upturned variety and terra's scrap and this is totally satisfying for me
in terms of scrap variety
stiff anchor
If you're recommending it I have to check it out
wraith ember
but whoever made upturned variety gets to cheat cus it's just 99% assets stolen from zeekerss
pale sedge
have you guys checked boom scrap?
i do think quite a few of em fit the game really well hehe
theres of course some stuff that is more goofy but a few do fit :3
stiff anchor
I've checked out all their mods and they're pretty cool
vocal zealot
i love how feiopars are always eternally pogging
This made me realize they look like this
vestal plume
They realized they were BORN for this 😈
compact creek
By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.
hot cairn
tropic ingot
*By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.*
I thought this was the Huntsman for a second and not a wax soldier lmao
vestal plume
LOL
hot cairn
void onyx
*By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.*
something what
oblique python
*By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.*
I genuinely thought it really was something... wicked
solemn gate
*By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.*
YES YES YES, A NEW BIODIVERSITY ENEMY, RIGHT?
winged wagon
*By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.*
Looks Wax
solemn gate
is it this guy
a new gun too?
biodiversity v80 update is gonna be fire
we can wait
let them cook
wise kelp
*By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.*
no way............. after 400000000 years in development hell.. this is going to be peak
pale sedge
Im waxing it
crystal cliff
And by “it”, he means his soldier
graceful sedge
compact creek
biodiversity v80 update is gonna be fire
(this is for later)
tropic ingot
Wax soldier coming out in: Never
vestal plume
Decnever
stiff anchor
: Wax Soldier delayed 100 year 💔
solemn gate
(this is for later)
ok
solemn gate
(this is for later)
im still excited for when it releases
compact creek
don't look at me like that
wraith ember
oh that is terrifying
pale sedge
Scrumptious
graceful sedge
that thing apparently lets me draw 2 cards
compact creek
