#Biodiversity - Expanding Lethal Company's flora and fauna.

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vestal plume
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gosh I didn't know people wanted me dead so bad

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guess I have nothing else to live fooooooorrr..... EXCEPT FOR THE UPCOMING UPDATE FOR BIODIVERSITY, THE NOT-WAXSOLDIER UPDATE, FEATURING BOOM BIRDS, BUG FIXES AND MORE

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RELEASING: idk

sacred delta
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I flipping love ambient monsters

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Waiting patiently for snailcat, boom bird and rock crab

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They probably have some purpose or do something like prototax, but looks ambient enough ¯_(ツ)_/¯

vestal plume
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if you keep an eye on them boom birds are pretty much ambient

soft raft
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Wait are they called boom birds because.... they bring the boom?

inland cloak
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also cuz they gonna go boom

soft raft
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How many booms does coderebirth get

inland cloak
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5 booms

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maybe 4

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actually 7

inland cloak
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the only true ambient enemies, locusts and manticoils

sacred delta
inland cloak
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the horror...

sacred delta
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I have cutiefly enabled with quite high spawnrate and I still haven’t seen one in a while

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They’re either plotting something or I have several mental issues

inland cloak
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theyre plotting alright

sacred delta
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So it’s both yoiled

sacred delta
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If the setting at the top is “true” they’re enabled right?

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Can’t remember the exact wording but every time I check it’s true.

soft raft
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Yeah true is enabled

sacred delta
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Weird

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They have a weight on adamance of 40 for example

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I’m assuming they’re a daytime enemy. Still haven’t seen one

simple notch
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Hey so earlier today, me and a friend was playing LC and the Aloe just kept grabbing me. I mean like, it was eclipsed, I got grabbed by the Aleo but instead of running off, it came straight for me again and kept grabbing. Is something wrong with it or is this intended?

tropic ingot
hollow stream
sacred delta
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I mean technically speaking leaf boys anger dogs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

vestal plume
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you're supposed to run away from it lol

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next updatenhas an updated sound effect to differentiate the phase and make it easier to tell that it's intented I suppose

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still idk why people think it's a bug lmao

inland cloak
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Updatenhas

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Nice german

vestal plume
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I just woke up man, leave me alone

oblique python
stable pumice
inland cloak
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Look up Wasserschwein

oblique python
vestal plume
vestal plume
vestal plume
inland cloak
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Gm stands for game master

oblique python
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Ahh I see
I'm scared of this fatass so I'm certain when to leave the facility lol

vestal plume
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LMAO

inland cloak
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Aloe is chunky bracken

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Caked up

vestal plume
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mhm, you have to leave the facility to de-aggro it

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so that's probably a good idea

oblique python
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and heal up somehow

inland cloak
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Gotta find the clip of it twerking

oblique python
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I gyatt to see that

inland cloak
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Not the one i was looking for

oblique python
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ZAMN!!!

sand vortex
simple notch
# vestal plume that is how the enemy works, yes

so this is intended behavoir on eclispe? This is different I mean like I was dragged and had like almost no room to run away from it. The ONLY way I got away was it fell in a cage mine from testaccount. It would've been an endless loop.

vestal plume
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iirc there's a grab cooldown config for you to change if you found the spot it caught you in a bit punishing

oblique python
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regardless of the weather

simple notch
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oh okok. thx!

tropic ingot
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What's the power level of the ogopogo?

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I've asked this before as well, but I forgot, but what's the power level of the vermin, and how many of them can spawn?

inland cloak
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2

vestal plume
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ogopogo's prolly 2 though yeah

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vermin I forget, prolly a decimal

inland cloak
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2

vestal plume
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ok

tropic ingot
inland cloak
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2

soft raft
sacred delta
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Does vermin spawning during flooded work?

vestal plume
sacred delta
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I can’t remember why I disabled it but I think it was from them spawning in the ground. Don’t take anything from that since my memory isn’t the greatest.

vestal plume
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I actually remember we were gonna try and fix that for next version so, we'll see if we manage to

sacred delta
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Alr thanks

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I’ll probably re-enable them anyway since LC’s water life is underwhelming

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I love those little guys. Even if they stress my friends which have played Subnautica

sacred delta
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It’s just vermin but they’re not crapbags right?

vestal plume
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it's like vermin, but they look cuter

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mhm!

sacred delta
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So basically just vermin but they only roam and not attack players?

vestal plume
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they try their best

sacred delta
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I’ll check it out. LC desperately needs more water life.

inland cloak
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2

latent fog
molten lark
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was the name of this thread changed to bioidverisyt to see how long it takes for someone to point it out?

simple notch
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clay

simple notch
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surgeon

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wait

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what is the barber's internal name? Is it clay surgeon?

compact creek
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"i had a dream about the barber
one day he made me a wig
because his scissors were too big"

compact creek
oblique python
vestal plume
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lmao

vestal plume
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but every barber except for the 1st one had no animations and no hitbox and no sounds iirc

vestal plume
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buttery released a fix for it but the multiple barbers got taken out of basegame

sacred delta
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Just thought I’d clarify barbers spawned in groups of 2 and had a max count of 8 ^

Not spawning in groups of 8

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That’d be hellish

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And I’d probably never go to dine or vow again

vestal plume
vestal plume
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hellish

vestal plume
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Biodiversiti - Expanding upon LC's fauna and flora.

void willow
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Biodiversiti - Expandingi uponi LC'i fauni andi flori

vestal plume
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biodiversity if it was italian

bitter flare
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mama mia????

vestal plume
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wesley is abusing this poor animal

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he's throwing DYNAMITE INTO IT SMOUTH

crystal cliff
vestal plume
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but the anim bugs out if you kill it while stunned

stable pumice
vestal plume
crystal cliff
void willow
vestal plume
void willow
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it actually does that?

void willow
vestal plume
vestal plume
tropic ingot
void willow
sacred delta
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Ogopogos are killable??

void willow
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Not to complain or anything, the Ogopogo is my second favorite monster in this collection and knowing that it does that has impressed me, but that doesn't negate the fact that I find it somewhat unnecessary since it will never be seen doing it unless using imperium or camera cheats.

vestal plume
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That's the death animation

sacred delta
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How much health do ogopogos have?

vestal plume
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the Ogopogo does roar when it comes out, that's why the mouth is open lol

vestal plume
sacred delta
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Thats quite a small amount for how big they are

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to be fair being hit 20 times in the face wouldnt be great for anything

void willow
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that's whay I think it's kinda unnecesary :,]

vestal plume
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if it was more than 20 you wouldn't be able to kill it like, ever, with anything

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you can kill ogopogo with an exploding cruiser, too

vestal plume
void willow
vestal plume
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but if I was gonna have someone make an animation for it I would have at the very least be possible

vestal plume
simple notch
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wax

vestal plume
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I wanted it to move while wandering because most vanilla bodies of water allow you to see it, like the little top lip part

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it used to not have an idle animation but it looked like just... idk a rock sliding at the bottom of the lake

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now atleast it looks like it's pacing back and forth

compact creek
vestal plume
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LMAO

vestal plume
latent fog
vestal plume
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ye but I wanted to see how feasible it would be to do it ""fairly""

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also I don't have unity explorer heheheh

latent fog
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You'd need a whole team with shotguns and a setup to know how far he is to cancel his grab to kill him easily. The person running would need to be using a jetpack to go fast enough.

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It's not reasonable in and way lol

latent fog
vestal plume
vestal plume
latent fog
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how much damage do they do?

vestal plume
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also of course it's out of the question for how "fair" it is to take out Ogo but modded weapons can do extra damage and there's also throwable items that do a ton of damage (mostly via explosions)

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Also good progress today, all the [ thing's ] animations are done, we finished the visuals of another enemy and found a few wacky bugs to fix :]

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oh and I updated a bunch of weights, organized the google drive

supple bough
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release tomorrow

sacred delta
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It’s releasing tomorrow at 10PM

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It adds the wax soldier and removed the aloe

hollow stream
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Also gives the ogopogo the ability to fly in rain

tropic ingot
vestal plume
hollow stream
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Interior-Pogo greed

vestal plume
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mineshaft-pogo

bitter flare
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the waters in gordion should be full of Ogos

compact creek
void willow
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Ogopogordion

tawny sluice
# compact creek Ogordion

can we make this a moon its the exact same as gordion but with a big lake between the selling station and the ship thats full of ogopogoes

vestal plume
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A hole just opened up in my backyard

inland cloak
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greed my bad was looking for treasure

tropic ingot
karmic wyvern
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what

elfin delta
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the hole consumes all

crystal cliff
# vestal plume A hole just opened up in my backyard

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bitter flare
vestal plume
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the hole grew bigger while I slept

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It actually swallowed up one of our bushes overnight

charred ore
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The hole hungers

latent fog
crystal cliff
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are you on top of an imminent sinkhole?

vestal plume
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there's just been a lot of flooding in the country lately.

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I guess some loose ground above one of our pipes just began absorbing a lot of water, the ground turned into mud and eventually just collapsed

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iirc the bit that collapsed is where sewage goes through?

crystal cliff
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ah. Well, hopefully it's nothing too dangerous. You randomly go dark we'll assume the hole consumed you

vestal plume
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we covered it up with a spare wooden pallate we had lying around

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this is a picture of it

vestal plume
rare reef
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Its been 3 million years without an update, this is turning pikmin 3 to 4

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Maybe, the leaf boy contained the curse of the pikmin games

vestal plume
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i ate the update

rare reef
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(My dessert is more vehicles but thats not ready yet i hasnt had biodiversiti update dinners)

rare reef
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No! Please! Dont shoot, I GIVE YOU TEN LINE OF CODE

arctic crag
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Ten line of errors

rare reef
arctic crag
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oh yes I love console spam in my biodiversity

sacred delta
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Request that wax soldier updates to do nothing without console spam so by the time it’s released everyone is used to it being an ornament

crude turret
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also self harming should be re-added

crude turret
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so I can threaten to stab myself unless we get an update

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anyway I came out of hibernation to read hundreds of messages here

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have been moving again and dying of work. Anywho, time to hibernate again.

void onyx
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something something leviathan variant that stays in one spot on land

vestal plume
vestal plume
void onyx
vestal plume
stoic vortex
crystal cliff
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That hole as a monster

sinful rose
simple notch
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I think the whole fear thing when you get grabbed by an aleo is spread across all players not just the one that is grabbed

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I could be wrong but I think that's happened twice to me now

sacred delta
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I think the hole fear of when one of the players falls down the hole is spread across all players and not just the one who fell

crystal cliff
simple notch
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I don't know, but I think it's Aloe

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Might not be tho]

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but could be

sand vortex
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tis a big

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*bug

simple notch
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Is there a fix for it? like a config option?

sand vortex
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in the new update its fixed yea

inland cloak
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when is the new update

simple notch
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whenever the wax dude releases

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LMAO jk

wide merlin
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Aloe got bugged

vestal plume
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not only is the hole bigger, we're having electricity issues now

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our circuit breaker had been having problems recently with it turning shit off randomly, and we narrowed down the problem to the water pump and SPECIFICALLY my rooms electricity

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so I have no lights in my room, my pc is hooked up to a different outlet in another room through an extension

crystal cliff
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oof. It would seem you're being given all the problems

compact creek
vestal plume
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the backyard is also a fucking SWAMP cuz we forgot to put sand under our inflatable pool

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so between leaks and all the rain and it being there for two months the whole place is just 10ft by 5ft of mud

vestal plume
sand vortex
thorn scroll
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why does the universe hate biodiversity so much 😭 sorry about all of that

scarlet helm
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Is there like an estimated date for this big update

inland cloak
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2045

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for the next bug fix update

vestal plume
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long dev time =/= big update

atomic shuttleBOT
vestal plume
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pinning that for future reference

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some features I mentioned before may or may not end up in this next update, just so we release quicker!

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bug fixes are all there though, atleast the big ugly ones

vestal plume
charred ore
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Fair

vestal plume
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only time i've heard the term development hell used is for when games have a horrible problem they can't seem to fix and it fucks up the whole dev cycle and bottlenecks progress, or when they keep re-doing shit, neither of which is really what's goin on here, but I don't actually know the meaning of the term heheh

charred ore
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That's one of it's meanings

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I just use it for when something doesn't have a lot to do but takes a long time

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The game I'm most familiar with the term on is kingdom hearts 3, which got delayed by like 6 years because they couldn't get licensing for Pixar characters

vestal plume
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oh then yeah that's very applicable to this LOL

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not that the coding involved in what's getting delayed isn't sizeable it's just that it's better to release stuff now and then do smaller stuff laters

peak trench
crude turret
wise orbit
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test knife stinky

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how do I stab people with test knife

vestal plume
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@wise orbit gonna have this one on while we test next time

void willow
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stab?

vestal plume
vestal plume
# void willow stab?

old Aloe testing feature we accidentally left in back when we released 0.1.0. that we took out on... 0.1.1. I think

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it was super useful to test with it, now you can use it aswell through a config option thanks to @latent fog

void willow
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oh yeah, the config that let you hurt yourself with the knife, I forgot its name lol

vestal plume
crude turret
charred ore
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peak image

vestal plume
sacred delta
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Isn’t it canon that ogopogos travel underground anyway? I haven’t read the bestiary in a while but it mentioned caves or something similar.

vestal plume
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we actually added a few nods to that in this update, which is fun

sacred delta
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So if I understand currently their main nesting and hunting points is in lakes but they travel between lakes, bodies of water and just live underground by travelling under the ground?

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I’m glad if so since that was my headcanon anyway, didn’t make sense for a big water noodle to be in a small river or lake.

vestal plume
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hello mr. (george) booster

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he has eyes

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he's very cute

mild crater
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kill him

sacred delta
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I accidentally replied to the wrong message and now I’ve ghost pinged

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I feel big silly

charred ore
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The eyes are so similar

tropic ingot
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They have the same eyes

charred ore
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whats a lurker

tropic ingot
vestal plume
tropic ingot
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Yeah

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You can notice them better if you have posterization off

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They track your location pretty sure

vestal plume
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cute

tropic ingot
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Yuh

tropic ingot
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They remind me of conch snails, so I can't take them seriously

tropic ingot
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I agre

compact creek
vestal plume
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never forget.

tropic ingot
crude turret
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courtesy of @void onyx

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my grand concept artist

void onyx
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I have a new idea for a new minecraft mob @crude turret

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honeycomb golem

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they will be a new addition for villagers

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and they will have a crossbow

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that shoots bees

crude turret
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wax soldier at home

void onyx
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don't compare it to slop

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my idea is better

crude turret
crude turret
tropic ingot
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An aloe nearly gave me a fucking heart attack today

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I was initially getting really tense due to what I believed to be hearing a masked's footsteps below me, and her unexpected appearance made me flick my mouse like shit

graceful sedge
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🇫

compact creek
vestal plume
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the expected effect... wahoo

vestal plume
compact creek
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the intended vs. the unintended

vestal plume
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aloe just got seen by someone and just bolted somewhere away from you

sand vortex
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it should've ideally gone back into the room from which it came out of, but adding fixes to these edge cases just makes the aloe less performant

void willow
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I hope to see the corrections of the Alloe soon, several friends have already asked me why the Fear effect appears out of nowhere :,]

thorn scroll
void onyx
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@vestal plume does the weed killer spray just disintegrate the aloe

crude turret
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we are having a work session at the moment and they just ironically said that to me, but it may be goated

void onyx
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we await your answer

vestal plume
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after rigorously testing the new version I realized the only thing left is to overwork zipka more

arctic crag
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I love my work

sacred delta
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If you aren’t bleeding internally and externally at the end of a work day you’ve done it wrong.

arctic crag
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hmmm

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does breaking fingers count?

sacred delta
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Well are they also bleeding?

arctic crag
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slightly

sacred delta
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Silly dude

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I love “ambient” or atleast more passive monsters like leaf boys and spore lizards

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Makes it feel more like an ecosystem

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I’m assuming boom bird is more “ambient” or not aggressive since it looks huggable

arctic crag
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ye

vestal plume
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yee

molten lark
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New biodiversities are coming???

arctic crag
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Hi Vector, long time no see

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how is it going?

soft raft
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Wow avoiding the question

molten lark
arctic crag
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not really

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I'm the DeadSeater monster guy

molten lark
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Oh

arctic crag
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idk if you remember

molten lark
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Yea

vestal plume
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we're scrapping everythiung and deprecating the mod

arctic crag
soft raft
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Whos everythiung and why are you scrapping him

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Is he a new biodiversity entity

soft raft
arctic crag
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be monty

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idk when it's coming, I'm just a little dude, making my silly animations

inland cloak
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The new biodiversity update is out!

  • Deprecated the mod
  • cancelled wax soldier
  • scrapped everythiung
arctic crag
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scrapped everythiung

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good

frozen mist
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Ah yes finally the Biodiversity update I was waiting for peepoGiggles

arctic crag
inland cloak
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Now make the enemy grabbable

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And rockable like a maneater

soft raft
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And if you don't do it I will... sadge

sacred delta
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Waiting for a biodiversity readme update

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It’s the direction that the LC modding community is heading in

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A “real” update every few months alongside weekly readme updates.

vestal plume
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lemme do that

crude turret
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scrap everything is amazing

vestal plume
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is 26 sounds too much for one enemy

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:3

mild crater
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bare minimum

tropic ingot
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Is the boombird a manticoil relative btw

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Four eyes, four legs

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While the manticoil has four wings

vestal plume
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kinda like cousins?

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aren't manticoils related to crows or smth

tropic ingot
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Yuh

vestal plume
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then yeah they're related through crows

tropic ingot
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The fuck

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Manticoils are related to nutcrackers

vestal plume
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holy shit

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vodka said the terminal entry was gas so I hope you and other loreshits like em too heheh :3c

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I pretty much just do terminal entries to fill a quote and actually use my brain for smth since not many people read em, so Im glad there's people who read them

tropic ingot
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Is Sigurd within them perchance

vestal plume
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sigurd is fucking DEAD

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i did this to him

tropic ingot
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We don't know that

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Well probably realistically he's dead, but this is cosmic horror sci-fi, so

vestal plume
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it's been over 500 years I think he's not alive or if he is he's wouldn't be capable of doing his gay little blog posts through the terminal database

tropic ingot
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Did the Biodiversity entities not exist while he was alive

tropic ingot
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I'll take that as a no

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but yeah, I'm excited to eat up the bestiary entries

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Reading them is the best part of an entity Imo

vestal plume
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(me)

tropic ingot
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sniff My ancestor...

vestal plume
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monki

tropic ingot
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Btw does the ogopogo have fucked spawning or is CentralConfig not compatible with it rn

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I never see it now that I installed CC

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I don't have flatten enemy curves on either, so it's not that

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Unrelated critique, but the leaf boy's falloff curve should be changed to be either flat or decreasing. They overpower manticoils and roaming locusts to that they've become an uncommon sight due to just how many leaf boys there are

vestal plume
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on vow they're supposed to completely overpower anything, ye

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they also spawn in groups so ye

tropic ingot
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I guess I should decrease their spawn chance everywhere then

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Since I meant for them to be equalized

vestal plume
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mhm

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it might be a side effect of their power level being increeedibly low

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in the public version anyway

crude turret
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this is monty showing us the update

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home grown in his bathtub

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We should hold a manhunt to find him and sieze the new builds that are being so greedily witheld

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"collect his biodiversities" if you will

vestal plume
sacred delta
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I now pretty much add it to every modpack. Namely including my "lore accurate" modpack that I had made for fun. Hard to add custom monsters when most dont try to fit into LC's story.

hidden pollen
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yeah its honestly surprising how little vanilla friendly mods there are

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maybe a third of the available mods at best

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shitposts excluded

sacred delta
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I know how much people forcing vanilla styled stuff is frowned upon or viewed as annoying. But I always love it when a mod fits seamlessly into vanilla

hidden pollen
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Its frowned upon? tf?

sacred delta
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It always gives the feeling of playing an update for the first time because it feels like an extention to the base game.

sacred delta
# hidden pollen Its frowned upon? tf?

Dont know how to really explain it, hasnt happened in a few months (afaik) but people used to complain when something wasnt "vanilla styled" and it was seen as quite annoying

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I wouldnt say so now

hidden pollen
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Oh I thought you meant the other way around

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I mean, I dont frown upon it, I just heavily prefer vanilla styled

sacred delta
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Same here

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Some silly things are fine because its meant to be fun

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But I like my game keeping LC's original atmosphere it has

hidden pollen
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Yeah, mods that expand on a game are the best for sure

sacred delta
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Biodiversity, Chameleon, Generic Interiors and that new storage complex (from beanie iirc) always feel like it should be a part of the base game

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Probably not in a literal sense since its subjective

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But they get very close to that feeling whenever a base LC update releases

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Finding mineshaft for the first time made the game feel so different

vestal plume
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they still kind of are just not as much and they're a lot more respectful

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I was one of those too lol

hidden pollen
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Perks of no longer being in the limelight I guess

vestal plume
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it's jus tpeople learned how to be more respectful I suppose

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and actually learned that people like to make mods because... they like to add the stuff they want to add

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and NOT whatever some random guy in a forum tells them they need to add

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so instead of coming in the shape of a demand it's in the shape of a suggestion or light criticism

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like, take the convo on nikki's moons thread rn

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back in like july of last year people would've very loudly complained about a singular sound effect being a reference to something

hidden pollen
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And now we have rubber rooms

vestal plume
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and said they would NOT play the moon because it has a veeeery very small detail they don't like that breaks immersion

vestal plume
inland cloak
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"Code rebirth and surfaced arent immersive" greed

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Too bad i implemented them in the story

hidden pollen
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Surfaced is... I guess not very immersive, but most of code rebirth is. most.

inland cloak
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The duck does what it wants

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Nothing can stop it

crude turret
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surfaced is great

inland cloak
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And i guess next update will make the entire mod even more immersive because we got lore and vanilla esque enemies

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All while staying unique

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I mean its just a bug fix

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Nothing else

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No new monsters greed

inland cloak
crude turret
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I have urchins and "horse" set up to spawn on moons like aquatis and also during wet weather

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same with mantis shrimp

crude turret
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Honestly it's somewhat down to whoever is hosting a session to make sure things are balanced, when using numerous mods, in Lethal's case a balance for custom enemies and scrap and their weights depending on environments

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yeah, of course if you just download 100 mods and don't configure them in any way you'll experience hell

inland cloak
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greed chat how we feel about hard enemies. Somebody told me the game was too easy and i took it personally

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Also said person should remove alot of their "QoL" mods that make items not weigh you sown and having extra stamina

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Nudge nudge

vestal plume
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but it's important to have a sooomewhat balanced mod right out the gate, which is what I try to do, and thankfully a lot more mods have started doing recently

vestal plume
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(me)

inland cloak
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Priorities

crystal cliff
tropic ingot
inland cloak
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good

hot cairn
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me waiting for biodiversity update

vestal plume
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me ripping my skin off

tropic ingot
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Me frothing at the mouth for boombird

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I am geniunely excited for that mf

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I love birds

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Plus they have the best design so far

graceful sedge
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me when i find the wax soldier code

vestal plume
tropic ingot
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You're welcomes

vestal plume
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crab is also gonna be cool

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I made a buncha sound effects for boom bird and crab today

sacred delta
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I’m holding a bird plushie rn and I was watching birds earlier

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They’re simply just great

vestal plume
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i forgot where I got this sound but I didn't make it I just changed the name of it

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prolly got it off freesound so I don't gotta worry abt credits

sacred delta
# vestal plume

I’m on mobile rn someone explain it using that onomato thing where a sound sounds like a word

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Onomatopoeia

vestal plume
vestal plume
vestal plume
vestal plume
vestal plume
vestal plume
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Is that good?

sacred delta
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Sounds fire

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I can somehow imagine that in terms of bird sounds anyway

vestal plume
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uh,,

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yeah, bird sounds

crude turret
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one of my new favourite screenshots

vestal plume
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why do you have a fucking conection icon next to my name

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you seeing my 2 orange bar

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with my fake ass ethernet

crude turret
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discord messages infact have data tied to them that holds the time the client initialised sending and when the message actually sent

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It's more for me to know how bad my ping actually is when working

vestal plume
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interesting

atomic shuttleBOT
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inland cloak
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No x-ing

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Because no fun allowed

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No politics in my space scrap collecting game

vestal plume
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we were hopefully able to fix a pretty nasty desync lol

hot cairn
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that cat is my new favourite gif

vestal plume
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he's so fucking goofy

sacred delta
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I have too many favourited gifs and I get all of them from this server

tropic ingot
vestal plume
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boom bird lol

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nothing you guys had experienced, just we had two testing sessions recently and we got a really bad desync issue very consistently in regards to one of its counterplays lol

tropic ingot
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Maneater reference

void willow
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Jester reference

tropic ingot
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Jesters had desyncs?

simple notch
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Do jesters have desync?

tropic ingot
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Not rn no

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but I guess they had a model desync when they're at full throttle

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like how adult maneaters were

elfin delta
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i think they might be talking about that more counterplay mod that lets you put items on top of the jester

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had that cause desyncs before

tropic ingot
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Oh

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I was referencing something that happened to the maneater in vanilla while Zeek was betatesting

vestal plume
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i need to figure out how to register biodiversity enemies for esr, man

peak trench
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can you add an EVIL skin for boombirds

vestal plume
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weird is already kind of evil,,,

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they have an EVIL SCAR!!!!!

vestal plume
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the skin mod

soft raft
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ohhh

vestal plume
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the dev sent me a whole explanation on how to do it but it,.,,, requires code I think

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and everytime I look at it I'm just like

soft raft
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i mean to be fair, i didnt really wanna do that so i went down one of two paths (i did both cuz sometimes its good sometimes its not) and it's something you can do because you're the texturer?

vestal plume
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yeah I can do the skins

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idk how to do the other stuff though

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I'm sure I could get the skins working just fine it's just registering that's different from what people like distinct and wesley have done tho

soft raft
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i gave all my enemies a function that just says if they have a variant material, it has a random chance of applying one, most of the work is just in supplying the new textures in this one, the code is just a few lines

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this is one way of doing it

vestal plume
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outside of esr, right?

soft raft
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the other way is snailcat, which uses a custom shader where i just give it a random colour and it messes with the hue of specific parts of the enemy, this one is a lot more involved but ill probably be enforcing it

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yeah that's outside of esr

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both of these outside of esr

vestal plume
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yeah we were also gonna do it as like, part of the mod

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but I figure that it could lift some weight off Figo's back if I figure it out

soft raft
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i dislike how esr does skins, i was told it makes them technically separate enemies

vestal plume
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...if.. I figure it out

soft raft
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and that's just, not what i wanna do

vestal plume
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I guess cuz it was mainly supposed to be for model changes? and not texture changes?

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idrk why it does it that way

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there's probably? a reason?

soft raft
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(not really, i think it was just the implementation that happened at the time, though there might be a reason im unaware of but i just wouldnt do it that way anyway)

vestal plume
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but yeah I think if I figured this out I could help save on file size, lighten up the workload on Figo and maaaybe open up the possibility for people to make skins of biodiversity enemies which would be super fun, but waughhh

soft raft
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there's multiple ways you could do it, they all involve some bit of coding, my first solution dumps 1% of the work on me and 99% on rodrigo, the second one dumps 1% of the work on rodrigo and 99% of the work on me (creating a good shader that creates palette colours)

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vestal plume
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that's a neat trick

vestal plume
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I'm unsure how hard it would be for Figo to implement it, if it would even be hard for him to do so

soft raft
# vestal plume that's a neat trick

sadly it's only for pixel art, unless you go a bit creative with how you're doing it, palette swaps arent really a thing people do anymore/something that the engines easily support surprisingly lol

vestal plume
soft raft
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that's fair, i use this for snailcat and plan to find other uses in the future probably

vestal plume
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for the boom bird's I decided to add some more wear and tear of the feathers of a few of them or add more details to certain parts of em to set them apart, even if it's small details it's fun for me to add

soft raft
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makes sense, for that you'd just ask figo to make something in the base Biodiversity enemy ai (iirc you guys have one) that just checks if there's variants and has a random chance of applying the variant, the work is just mostly on your end as it isnt anything impressive to set it up, only a few lines of code

vestal plume
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which is why I thought maaaybe I should just do a side mod that uses ESR

soft raft
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esr might be good with that, not sure as i havent used it, but it might be the way to go for you.
i dont really intend to support custom skins more than me and rodrigo's (or if someone makes one i would include it in the base mod lol)

vestal plume
soft raft
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oh weird

latent fog
vestal plume
bitter flare
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biodiversiti - expandi uponi letci's funni andi flori

copper kiln
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is the wax soldier finished

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because the handler is on in the config

compact creek
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nope

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he spams errors

copper kiln
compact creek
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yes

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unless you do wish to see the lifeless, incomplete form of an immovable object

tropic ingot
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They also waste power level because of that

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So even more of a reason to disable them

simple notch
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Dang I want wax dude

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;-;

crystal trellis
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soon™️

arctic crag
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soon™️

inland cloak
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Not soon

sacred delta
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He gets excitable

crimson umbra
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I mean I couldn't see any other use for a protrusion like that

vestal plume
sturdy nymph
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is it a known issue that the prototax seems to emit a globally audible sound after it has taken damage? I am hearing their little rattle noises inside the dungeon while they are getting stepped on by redwood giants outside 🤭

graceful sedge
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known issue

sturdy nymph
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ok ty

latent fog
void willow
sturdy nymph
vestal plume
void willow
vestal plume
vestal plume
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sorry

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but yeah that's supposedly already fixed in the beta we have

void willow
vestal plume
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mhm

wide crypt
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Not sure if reported already but for some reason the little fella spawned at the company building

sacred delta
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I don’t think that’s a biodiversity issue alone

tropic ingot
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Wax prototax

sacred delta
sacred delta
tropic ingot
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The beast

hot cairn
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Biodiversity update idea-

Holy Protax, a Protax that wears a pope hat on his head. Will heal you passively when you're near it. /J

vestal plume
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because that's what would be causing that

vestal plume
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he looks like a wax candle

vestal plume
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writing lore and I just realized how awful this timeline is what the fuck is wrong with this game

simple notch
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apparently the time in one of the bestiary's has a type so it seems really far out. Typos are present in a lot of bestiary's and it adds to the realism ig

vestal plume
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just doesn't make sense anymore looking at this game timeline

vestal plume
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vanilla moons tierlist

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yes I made this just for my tierlist

simple notch
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put some respect on my boi vow

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😂

tropic ingot
vestal plume
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i thought people just called it old dine now?

tropic ingot
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Ah

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Thought you were referring to v50 Dine

vestal plume
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nah

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I'd rank both v50 dine and current dine the same

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probably v50 above current since main is uggy now

forest zenith
neon salmon
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How is Embrion S tier

vestal plume
sacred delta
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Partly deserved but it’s not F tier material

vestal plume
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oh nah just ok is not f tier

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F tier is AAAAAALL the way down there

sacred delta
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Oh h see

vestal plume
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adamance is just the one moon I can't find a good reason to go to consistently

sacred delta
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Honestly adamance is one of my favourite moons but with the amount of hate it gets I’ll accept “Just ok” alright

vestal plume
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I like the idea I like what it does but I feel like the commute no matter what will always be absolutely horrible on adamance

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esp when you're not playing solo

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i feel like funnily enough solo adamance is a bit better cuz you can always rely on the half-broken bridge

sacred delta
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Wth

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Of course you play modded

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Ignore me I’m an idiot

vestal plume
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LOL

sacred delta
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I moreso mean if you edit moons. I know some people like to leave it as default since otherwise the config won’t auto update for LLL

vestal plume
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I tend to edit moons, ye

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though most of the time when I do it's usually just changing embrion to have 50 min 50 max scrap

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so it's a bit more rewarding LOL

sacred delta
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I do recommend making adamance a mansion moon then.

Makes it a bit more unique. Or atleast makes it a little more worth visiting since it doesn’t really look like the other moons

thorn scroll
vestal plume
charred ore
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the baboon hawks and old birds in particular ramp up super hard

peak trench
vestal plume
sacred delta
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I love adamance’s unique map design that encourages parkour and hidden routes. Including some intended routes.

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It’s the best in the vanilla game in terms of that kind of thing

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It does have quite hellish outside spawns though since it shares a spawn curve with artifice iirc

charred ore
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in that regard it does kinda feel like artifice jr. with how crazy outside spawns get

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i did mention baboon hawks and old birds already but now that i think about it, the old birds aren't really a problem as much as the giants are

vestal plume
vestal plume
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so ass

inland cloak
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so jumping constantly across the bridge makes it fall way later

charred ore
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i thought weight does factor into the bridge

karmic wyvern
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no, this is not true

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the bridges on vow and adamance are actually kind of complicated

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and i cannot say exact statistic facts

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but theres two benefactors to how fast the bridge health deteriorates

charred ore
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i pulled up alter ego's video on the bridges

karmic wyvern
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the amount of players on it
the amount of weight a player has

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jumping does not stall the breaking process also

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because the hitbox goes a bit higher than just at the bridge

charred ore
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it's a timer that gets added modifiers based on number of players and their weight if they weigh over 11 lbs

tropic ingot
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So both of y'all are wrong?

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Not you, Winter

karmic wyvern
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the multipliers for how fast bridges break can also be edited

tropic ingot
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I mean Purple and Rodrigo

charred ore
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this is the collider

karmic wyvern
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adamances is higher for both conditions that break it

charred ore
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it's too tall to get out of it by jumping

karmic wyvern
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thats why it breaks much easier, on top of being longer lol

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the most you can get across adamances is one player with 16 LBS

charred ore
karmic wyvern
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its possible to get across with 19 but it will break once you get to the other side

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meanwhile, vows bridge can be crossed by one player with at least 96 pounds

tropic ingot
charred ore
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real

tropic ingot
karmic wyvern
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most just copy vows bridge

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no multiplier edits

tropic ingot
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Is it even possible?

karmic wyvern
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it should be

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also just to be clear

charred ore
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can't wait for someone to copy adamances bridge

karmic wyvern
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sprinting DOES NOT make bridges break faster

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this is a common misconception

karmic wyvern
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anyways, this has been your purple lethal company information for the day

tropic ingot
inland cloak
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now explain why you can jump multiple times if you spam spacebar on desert moons

charred ore
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what

crystal trellis
soft raft
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You can double jump if you spam space*

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On desert moons*

charred ore
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ive never seen that

soft raft
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Try it

inland cloak
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yeah while going up a slope

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spam pspace and you can double, tripple jump

soft raft
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Even the smallest of inclines work

velvet patrol
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If you hold W, A, S, or D you can move while jumping after having pressed spacebar

karmic wyvern
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this can happen anywhere because the jump input delay isnt long enough

soft raft
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Nope

karmic wyvern
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its just most prevelant on assurance because you dont go up a steep cliff often

soft raft
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Maybe if you have horrible lag it can but nah

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Incline doesn't have to be steep or anything

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It can be a pretty small incline

tropic ingot
inland cloak
soft raft
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Which u see in all moons

inland cloak
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i gotta test more

soft raft
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It's only in desert moons

inland cloak
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but the desert moons were the only ones

soft raft
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And its to do with their meshes

karmic wyvern
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i have had it happen on adamance

soft raft
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Zaggy told me why but I've forgor by now

karmic wyvern
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and the reason you cant really purposefully do it is cause its just game jank

soft raft
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Adamance mightve not been out when we found this tbh so idk

charred ore
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oh wtf

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literally 2nd try

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thats so weird

karmic wyvern
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its more common to happen on steep places because you get to the ground sooner

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and assurance has a pretty steep cliff near ship

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offense main path also does

soft raft
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Again, any incline on the desert moons work

karmic wyvern
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if no other moon has these inclines, idk then

soft raft
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All other moons probably have these inclines

karmic wyvern
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anywas as i said

inland cloak
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trying everywhere in adamcne rn and nothing

karmic wyvern
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i probably wouldnt say everything perfectly right

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but i at least have a basic understanding

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of most things in this game

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nothing super deep technical code wise

vestal plume
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🧐

charred ore
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no

karmic wyvern
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have you ever played tonys moons

vestal plume
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you should try em, they're super c- NO

charred ore
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nope

vestal plume
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NO TALK ABOUT TONYS MOONS!!!!!!

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tonys moons is BANNED!!!!!

karmic wyvern
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peaks moons

charred ore
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ok but like

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tony vs covjirtii

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who wins

karmic wyvern
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i have no fucking idea who covjirtii is

vestal plume
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is covjirtii that bad

vestal plume
#

and they're all just kinda meh

charred ore
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all the moons are really low effort

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they even put in the description of antance that it was low effort

tropic ingot
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a moon replacement for another moon

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I forgot which one

soft raft
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You know who else has low effort moons? Monty, that guys moons suck

charred ore
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(ironically i thought antance was the best one)

soft raft
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Like, put some effort in them 😔

karmic wyvern
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was also in a tough space at that time

tropic ingot
karmic wyvern
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fake

soft raft
karmic wyvern
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tbh, theyre fine

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nothing to write home about

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theyre like the definition of a C tier moon

charred ore
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but like whos got better moons

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cov or tony

karmic wyvern
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cov

velvet patrol
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covjirtii

charred ore
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screenshotting

tropic ingot
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Why are you screenshotting, it's nothing big

karmic wyvern
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i have to say in defense of tony
theyre obviously a younger person and just modding for a passion project

charred ore
neon salmon
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tony has a youtube channel where he plays stuff

karmic wyvern
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the only real problem i have with tonys work is how much it lacks creativity in exterior design

tropic ingot
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As much as I don't like Tony it's weird to see everybody curb-stomping on him for it
I imagine it's very motivating for him considering he's in the server as well

karmic wyvern
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i feel like if he tried to think more about what he designs, he would make a pretty good moon

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and tbh the first one that had the cruiser elevator is the best example of that

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fun fact, that one was actually improved

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it used to be almost impossible to even get it out at the top

velvet patrol
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He says in his mods he is open to feedback and wants to hear feedback and he emphasized that too when talking with him

karmic wyvern
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did you mention how a majority of the old bird swarmed moons are kind of unfair

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cause like
you cant really combat the rocket knockback

velvet patrol
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Yes, there was section talking about that in the doc

karmic wyvern
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also tonys stuff has made me laugh in a good way

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one of the descriptions had "Fauna: Mosty Gaints" on it

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that was so funny

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maybe that isnt intentional

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but its more value than what something like highway gave me

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so, theres that

velvet patrol
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There was one moon with a description I don't remember which

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Oh right sand wind

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It was "Fauna: Dominated by a few"

karmic wyvern
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YES

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ITS SO GOOD

velvet patrol
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My friend who I was checking out the moons with kept joking like "DOMINATED BY A FEW WHAT!?"

vestal plume
graceful sedge
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also

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needed to look them up

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and

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i missed a moon of theirs...

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aaaaaaaaand that moon isnt even accessible, nor registered in LLL. less work for me 😄

charred ore
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which one

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zrentis?

graceful sedge
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correct

charred ore
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i guess 'little worse' was an understatement

graceful sedge
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hmm, a better comparison from me should be that with cov's moons, i wont object to someone downloading them (except Zrentis because literally cant be played)

crystal cliff
vestal plume
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I just realized I start college again today

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this mod is never updating sorry guys

oblique python
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It was never updating