Biodiversity - Expanding Lethal Company's flora and fauna.

[vestal plume]

iirc it's an issue with the wax soldier spawning and breaking everything

[indigo hill]

Wax soldier my beloathed (until it works)

It made the turrets at the front of the ship from emergency dice not despawn lmao

[vestal plume]

lmao yeah

just turn it off, mb

[cosmic widget]

add bruce

bruce waine

bruce banner

[void onyx]

hello how's my wax soldier doing

[cosmic widget]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-bailando-gif-11631955412366097736

[cosmic widget]

never encountered the wax soldier before

what does he do

[inland cloak]

do you want the bad news or the good news first

[cosmic widget]

good

news first

give it to me straight doc

[void onyx]

bad news

[inland cloak]

well its still not implemented and still borken

[cosmic widget]

[inland cloak]

but the good news is that i found this funny gif

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-eating-hungry-cactus-the-tortoise-whisperer-gif-22687202

[void onyx]

:(

[cosmic widget]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-gif-25434537

[crude turret]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-conch-마법의소라고동-gif-21513938

[daring jewel]

o yeah thats happened to me, too

[noble crest]

i found a modded moon called maritopia that has a bunch of ruined buildings over a giant ocean and i tried putting ogopogos in it but they spawn/clip/target through the buildings its over

its horrifying with them in that moon lmao

[cosmic widget]

w

[solid flax]

yeah we dont recommend you to put Ogopogo on any other moon than the listed ones in the config

Moonmakers need to work on their waters

[stable pumice]

😶

[soft raft]

this is not a moon maker issue, while it can be helped by moon makers, the responsibility does not fall on them

[solid flax]

well if the water planes are under the entire terrain it is a moon maker issue (and this is a case that is more frequent than you'd think)

[soft raft]

So what if the water plane is under the entire terrain?

It still falls on biodiversity lol

There have been solutions to these problems written and suggested back when ogopogo came out and a bit after by me and batby

[solid flax]

Yeah that is true, I'm just saying in the current build Ogo shouldn't be put on other planets

[soft raft]

Yes, so I wouldn't blame others for the mods own faults lol

[solid flax]

Moonmakers still need to work on their waters regardless

[soft raft]

Why? What problems does underground water create?

[solid flax]

it makes me crazy

[soft raft]

That's a u problem

Non respectfully

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874214351052111895/1249381110056616068/4x5-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[solid flax]

and that is also true

[soft raft]

I'm all for blaming moon makers for doing wrong shit like giving wrong layer and tag to terrain and whatnot, or doing something severely wrong and break-y, but this is not that lol

Trust me, I'd be the first to blame moon makers

[solid flax]

oh I know lmao

[peak trench]

i don't remember seeing that other than batby offering some update thing

[sweet ridge]

Think it's pretty common place to use 1 single water plane for water in games. Pretty sure even Zelda TotK does that

I wouldn't point fingers too hard at anyone for Mod incompatibility. That's a given with user created content

[late hazel]

I can get behind blaming @solid flax for everything.

[soft raft]

Amen

Only the bad stuff though

[late hazel]

lmfao <3s sickboy

[solid flax]

[soft raft]

Batby and me talked alot about potential solutions they could use and offered help, even to the point batby offered a hard coded "solution" which fell on moon makers to do (which I personally heavily disagree with using that "solution")

[late hazel]

I'm still haven't forgotten the time I got surprised by Ogopogo being on Seichi when it first released!!!!

[soft raft]

I have

Seichi is forgettable

[late hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-screaming-rant-gif-17904166

[vestal plume]

i be lurking

I am of the opinion that it falls completely on the moon's developer whether Ogopogo works on their moon or not, but not in the way s1ckboy means

Ogopogo is designed to work with very specific moon layouts, even if we did get it to spawn properly and not clip thru things it'd be super annoying

It's not meant to be on most moons, it's supposed to enrich the moon's layout, but the layout has to also work in tandem with the entity

I wouldn't put Ogopogo on Maritopia even if it didn't clip thru cuz there's water literally everywhere constantly undee the player

[soft raft]

Well yeah that's every enemy for the most part

The problem comes in saying stuff like (and I'm Paraphrasing here) that it's the moons responsibility for the enemy to successfully spawn in their water if it exists

[vestal plume]

well, it is up to them entirely if they want to add compatability

but I wouldn't blame them for it not working correctly

[tawny sluice]

biod is sorta a still smallish mod too, u probably wouldntve heard of it if u arent in this server

[soft raft]

Unrelated

[soft raft]

I know exactly what you mean but it just sounds like you're saying that compatibility IS needed on a level that isn't just "having a suitable lake or smthn" when it shouldn't be

[vestal plume]

if you know what I mean then you know what I mean, there's no hidden meaning or secret text lol

[vestal plume]

yeah 100%

[soft raft]

I know what you mean because I know you, it just comes off differently sometimes lol

[strong crater]

Question
If the spawn cap for ogopogo is increased, will the extra ones spawn in more spots?
Or is there a possibility they would occupy the same pond on say march?

[vestal plume]

nope, there's a chance they'll spawn in the same place if the moon operates via "spots"

I don't really recommend increasing their cap though, sounds like an easy way to make the moon unplayable

[vestal plume]

A good moon where increasing the cap probably won't lead to an unplayable mess is Gorgonzola, btw @strong crater

there's multiple Ogopogo spots in there, talking like 6 or 7

[vestal plume]

stupid fucking worm

[mental smelt]

Mischief and chaos is his element

[vestal plume]

for the wax soldier fans we're finishing up non-coding related affairs 🫡

[graceful sedge]

anyone else not getting the Oingoboingo to spawn on Seichi?
i am very stupid. forgot to reenable the handler

[vestal plume]

pff LMAO

happens

[astral herald]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAF37EeNL97/?igsh=bmFuM2RkMjF6czJs

Monsters that imitate other monsters?

[vestal plume]

it's something we plan on doing, super cool thing that happens in nature

thanks for the suggestion (and cool vid)

[cosmic widget]

A big Venus flytrap would be cool

Maybe a Venus flytrap in a pot for the ship?

[wide flax]

my pet venus flytrap

[peak trench]

there's not really any creatures that'd be a variant of

[glossy prairie]

Yeah, if this is something that has to be done, like for example on Aquatis, there could very well be a way to create an area that acts as a blacklist for the ogopogo

Then moon creators don’t need to create like 50 water objects to act more as spawn points and barriers for the ogopogo than actual water

[tropic ingot]

I just realized,

are aloes based off of the Snatchin Bracken mod?

[tawny sluice]

vain shrouds maybe?

[peak trench]

i think they share some code

[tropic ingot]

Hold on wait I've got an idea

[tawny sluice]

ithink aloes code is referenced off of snatchin brackens

[tawny sluice]

thats a pretty cool idea…. who thought pf that…….

[tropic ingot]

A variant of vain shrouds that act similar to venus flytraps, with the mouth being in the center of the plant instead of two big jaws like traditional fictional carnivorous plants
They'd lay flat on the ground, and when prey steps on them, they curl up into a ball in on the prey, and digest them from within

Kind of like a resurrection plant, but reversed

Their prey: Kidnapper foxes

and also unfortunate Company employees

[sand vortex]

nah cuz the snatchin bracken mod didnt rlly do the kidnap player animation stuff that the aloe does, so I couldnt rlly copy it

the only code I used alot of was the mod which fixes the lag caused by the bracken on big moons, but I changed it alot over time

[vestal plume]

biologically speaking there's 4 species I can think of, and mechanically 3

[tropic ingot]

Those are?

[vestal plume]

w my wife I'll elaborate later

[tropic ingot]

k

[vestal plume]

ok I threw her down the stairs uuuh

Forest Keeper, Bracken, Vain shroud biologically

then mechanically Hygrodere, Bracken, Vain shroud (?)

[tropic ingot]

Forest keepers aren't plants?

[vestal plume]

just a stationary trap entity that appears either randomly outside or under an item outside (would require outside scrap implementation) or inside

[tropic ingot]

Neither are brackens

[vestal plume]

headcanons don't count lol

it's a fucking tree ent and a leafman

[tropic ingot]

It's not a headcanon, the bracken's bestiary states that they're vertebrates

[vestal plume]

if they're not plants then the venus fly trap wouldn't be one either, so it's literally all the same

[tropic ingot]

What

[vestal plume]

cool so the hypothetical venus fly trap is a limbless vertebrate (doesn't change a thing about the concept)

[tropic ingot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vestal plume]

ehrm actually ass remark 😵‍💫

[tropic ingot]

ShrimpEvil

[tropic ingot]

You're playing Minecraft in a cave looking for diamonds

That's funny

[graceful sedge]

Butler variant that doesn't explode into bees, but poofs in out of nowhere, cleans up bodies and blood splatters, then leaves

collects tool items, too

competes with Hoarder Bugs, too. sprays em with aerosol, OHKO's em, then continues on

[peak trench]

forest keepers are insects, they have satyrid in their species name

[vestal plume]

gives me devilish ideas

thanks for providing the information in a non-condescending manner

[peak trench]

i wrote like 25% of a biodiversity suggestion for adult forest keepers as big moths but i never finished that then lost it

[vestal plume]

it makes sense why they'd have the eye patterns butterflies have

[tepid smelt]

A flying Forest Keeper

[vestal plume]

bugs tend to do that

[tepid smelt]

Worse than a flying cockroach

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

add a lighter to use with weed killer to burn it all

[peak trench]

this is biodiversity not itemdiversity

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-burning-wunkus-gif-8539316739375963048

[cosmic widget]

Eyeless dog maybe?

Mahoraga themed bracken with a super duper rare chance to spawn

Would be funny

[sweet ridge]

Could always be a far offshoot of the brackens
Weird super far offshoots like that are seen in nature... sorta like how we somehow share DNA with Bananas.

[inland cloak]

banana monster confirmed

[sweet ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-fruit-gif-26786056

[vestal plume]

have you seen the server

[vestal plume]

things are hppening indeed .

[graceful sedge]

wax confirmed

https://tenor.com/view/the40year-old-virgin-comedy-steve-carell-wax-waxing-gif-3463408

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/foxmel-cat-halo-tiktok-gif-24287103

does he know?

[scenic burrow]

me when the bio is diverse

[scenic burrow]

i love minecraft treasure map

[vestal plume]

teshting

[hidden pollen]

The boys

[graceful sedge]

cool kids club 😔

[inland cloak]

yall aint cool enough...

https://tenor.com/view/gem-gemini-kitty-cat-bite-bite-gif-12413415361658134489

[graceful sedge]

like, i know the qualification is as simple as uploading 1 thing, but i wouldnt wanna upload something that aint worthwhile and/or not maintain it

[hidden pollen]

but... but... I make funny sounds

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-eating-hungry-cactus-the-tortoise-whisperer-gif-22687202

i dont even know why im on that server, i dont do anything but shitpost

[graceful sedge]

Surfaced

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-burning-wunkus-gif-8539316739375963048

cuz im cool 😎

[hidden pollen]

Wait what server are we even talking about..?

[inland cloak]

uhm the cool one

cuz im in it

[vestal plume]

this is the biodiversity dev server, we testing a build

[vestal plume]

biodiversity dev server

[crystal trellis]

who up diversing they bio rn?

[graceful sedge]

ooooooh

dam

[cosmic widget]

there should be a mod where you could have a flytrap in your ship like the goldfish

[tawny sluice]

bioing oure divierstiy...

[graceful sedge]

am... i looking too hard into this and in reality there's nothing special about the pic?

[smoky roost]

real

[latent fog]

https://tenor.com/view/well-no-but-actually-yes-well-actually-uh-actu-jays-wing-warrior-cats-gif-23405918

[hidden pollen]

forest giant?

[inland cloak]

Guys i found it

[hidden pollen]

oh shit, fake tree, pog

[vestal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-meta-cooler-gif-26442859

[vestal plume]

wait a second.......

WESLEY????

[velvet patrol]

Dude no way

[solid flax]

Hold on.. Seichi 👀

[vestal plume]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/iPJL9ARO2pRkA9nL2/d1337qhKlBJF?invite=cr-MSxIRVUsMjYyMzg4OTQxLA

truely productive testing session

[stable pumice]

I mean.. I almost had it

[vestal plume]

Things Are Happening, Indeed.

[hidden pollen]

Oh god not that thing

[vestal plume]

:)

[crude turret]

Oh awesome wax soldier progress

He looks a small tad ill

[smoky roost]

😨

[rare reef]

Tf is it

[vestal plume]

🤷

[rare reef]

Gorgonzola ramp (epic fail 2024 top ten company cruising moments)

[hidden pollen]

Mic bird 2.0 iirc

[graceful sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/noot-noot-gif-24050609

[void onyx]

where wax soldier

[void onyx]

you got me excited.

I hate you

[sand vortex]

Im working on it, chilllllllllll

[soft raft]

whe4res wax

[solid flax]

I ate it

[vestal plume]

everytime someone asks about wax soldier progress we delete 10 lines of code off the github

[rare reef]

No no, dont make the wax soldier lostmedia

collecting personality from my chat/rp/game development server, please wait

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-toystory-mrpotatohead-creepypasta-gif-14226543197384412466

[elfin delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229102990007472288/1282184305707192373/bounce.gif

[frozen mist]

Wax soldier coming never

He doesn't exist

[soft raft]

With how figo writes code that's not close to 0.1%

[vestal plume]

there's at least 10 to 15 messages since we dropped the last version asking about wax soldier

whoops! 150 lines of code down the drain noooo

[soft raft]

Damn, 1% code gone, Figo slacking

[rare reef]

I CAST pwease can we has no lines of code deleted, if the beggers SHUT THE HELL UP

[vestal plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364919747281813508/1291870637324894321/idkwhati_madeBUTBETTER.gif

[soft raft]

Beggars can be choosers

Also chill lol

Hes kidding

[rare reef]

I know, im bad with kidding

[void onyx]

you can't do this to me.

[tropic ingot]

Waxed up soldier

[inland cloak]

Ayo

Biowaxversity

[sand vortex]

guyz why did u make me delete 1% of my code, now I've got this 😭

[sand vortex]

💀

thats cuz i make everything very noicely object orientated and add xml documentation for everything (which definitely isnt generated by chatgpt)

you should see my newest monstrosity creation https://github.com/BiodiversityLC/Biodiversity/blob/critter_revamp/Biodiversity/Creatures/StateManagedAI.cs

[soft raft]

This is disgusting

Feel some shame

[sand vortex]

lmao

whats wrong with it

apart from it being overly complex

[soft raft]

Answer in question

Lmao

2 million years later we gonna get a fully coded leafy boi

[sand vortex]

nah its only being used for things which have alot of behaviour states like aloe, waxsoldier

[soft raft]

Still... 😭

I can barely compromise with how complicated WTO's system is

This is unreasonable lol

[sand vortex]

yea it was based off of that lol

[sand vortex]

for most things ye, but imo it makes it easier for when u have an enemy that has like 10+ states

[soft raft]

Idk...

[sand vortex]

fairs lol

[tawny sluice]

oh my gooddddd!!!! wax soldier !!!! finally!!!

[vestal plume]

nah

[tawny sluice]

what the fuck is a mic bird….. micheal bird..???

[inland cloak]

Green mic bird that shoots bombs when?

[soft raft]

I think its a bird with an abnormal face, the reason for the mouth shape? Same as any other animals mouth shape, it adapted to eating one specific thing that was bountiful and nutritional in its environment.....

I wonder what that thing was

[vestal plume]

rocks!

[void willow]

oh, micbird is back?

[void willow]

It's like a bird, but with a mic in his mouth

[tawny sluice]

uhmm… whats a micbird…. haha….

[graceful sedge]

xu's barely disguised [[interest]]?

[soft raft]

Just curiosity on what a bird needs such a big mouth for

It's clearly something big and grand

Something plentiful

Something essential

[strong crater]

[tawny sluice]

kind of fruit that grows on trees that is shaped perfectly exactly like the beak of it

[sand vortex]

upgrading up to essential now 😎

[soft raft]

always has been bro

[sand vortex]

😳

[cosmic widget]

wth is that

it looks like it would scream at me

[daring jewel]

i think thats chatot

and youre right bc it had a special move where players could scream through their microphone to inflict damage on the opponent

it was rlly goofy

banned from tournament bc ppl kept using it to yell slurs 💀

[rare reef]

Epic troll (illegal edition)

[vestal plume]

wild robot was flames bro

also apparently it's biodiversity day

[inland cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611449603572891675/1172465513574703214/speed-2-2.gif

[zinc swan]

WOAH what does it mean?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-kitten-kitty-shy-gif-17733420

[vestal plume]

it's literally biodiversity day here in Argentina lmao

cultural diversity and biodiversity day, both the same day

it's the day columbus' crusty ass came over here

[zinc swan]

Wow have a nice biodiversity day

[vestal plume]

thank yous

anyway wild robot went hard, the first 10-15 minutes of the film are pure kino

[sharp solstice]

Watched this one with some friends yesterday, best animated movie I've seen in years I think

[vestal plume]

I watch like no movies but like it was really really good

idk how to describe it but it felt like the first quarter of the movie had 0 executive fuckery going on, like no suits came in and fucked w the original vision whatsoever

felt very pure in that sense, very artistically driven

it also looks wonderful, it's a shame I got used to the visuals so much cuz the whole thing is gorgeous

[lean heron]

this guy one of yours?

[daring jewel]

tf is that

[forest zenith]

I'd also like to know

[daring jewel]

that is NOT biodiversity bro 💀 XD

[lean heron]

no idea

we got it to spawn earlier when playing

we don't even have that many monster mods and it was unique

couldn't find it in the LogOutput either really

mimic with no arms and moss growing out of it

that made a muddy sound when it moved

like walking through a swamp

[forest zenith]

Did it attack?

[lean heron]

we didn't get the chance to see

I just saw it in poltergeist

friends weren't near it

and we left before interacting, otherwise might have a name for the thing

it was on the Seichi moon, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't an Oni

alt image

[elfin delta]

that's a lost from lethalthings. its supposed to be disabled because its pretty buggy but it seems it can just spawn anyways for some reason

[lean heron]

huh, I thought it might be from that, but I didn't know it existed since I couldn't find any info

[elfin delta]

yee. i think its supposed to be like a snare flea infused with an employee, something like that

[lean heron]

I'm curious how it works now

since we never saw it in action

maybe I can' spawn it in with imperium?

[vestal plume]

that's maggie from lethal things I think?

or. not maggie

idk why I said maggie

it's 5:46

am

[elfin delta]

when i spawn it with imperium the name of it is lost (maggie) so ig its either lol

[vestal plume]

it's supposed to replace an employee when they're being tp'd with a snare flea on their head

or just kinda, spawn around I suppose

don't think it has any unique AI

[lean heron]

can it grab then without arms? does it just have stock masked ai?

not that no arms would actually prevent grabbing

technically

[elfin delta]

yea it just asks like a buggy masked, it will grab you

[rare reef]

Whats this enemy and mod?

[inland cloak]

its from geodiversity

biodiversity's other mod

https://tenor.com/view/lunaistabby-fwadri-gif-15075989615579955918

[elfin delta]

look one message below it..

[wicked flame]

Bobilka

[inland cloak]

QWERTYrodrigo

[cobalt eagle]

What does WaxSoldier do?

[hidden pollen]

sword

[solid flax]

its mechanics are similar to the goopy goblin's

[cobalt eagle]

goopy goblin?

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-unhappy-stoneface-gif-12463115

i have been goopy goblined

[peak trench]

nothing, it has no ai yet

[inland cloak]

it waxes

man, when the wax solider said, i am the wax soldier, and the nstarted waxing all over the room

that was peak

[stable cypress]

I thought wax soldier 2 was ok even though it was a musical

[inland cloak]

i mean 1 was peak, 2 was still somewhat good but controversial but 3, wax soldier 3 had no right to even exist

it just ruins the past 2 entries

with bad writing, plot holes and retcons

its a really disappointing end to the series

[velvet patrol]

Yeah, it could've been much better, really sad to see how the franchise ended up. Hopefully the live action reboot doesn't dig the grave deeper

[forest zenith]

I hear good things about the anime remake

[hoary egret]

Hey, returning to Lethal after a while, does Bio diversity have any issues I should be aware of?

[vestal plume]

there's a few desync-related issues in the current version with the "Prototax" enemy, where its sound effects are global sometimes.

Should be fixed next version

and there's an issue with an unimplemented enemy showing you, you can disable it in the config by going to the mod's main config and disabling "WaxSoldier Handler"

other than that, no big issues have been reported

[hoary egret]

Neat, thank you friend.

[vestal plume]

and these issues are currently being adressed for our next update

[vestal plume]

no prob bud! hope you have fun :]

[hoary egret]

Thnk you :) I deecided to come back after grinding Total War Warhammer 3, had to unistall my old modpack and now I am just redoing it. I wanted this mod in it, so glad to hear no big issues.

[vestal plume]

oo fun, hope your new pack comes out sick!

it's always a lot of fun for me to rebuild my packs

[hoary egret]

I agree, its a fun time. My most succesful pack too.

[rose sequoia]

Heya!
I have landed about 12 times in March, 6 in Adamance and 11 in Vow. The Ogopogo has not appeared at any time. The other creatures do appear, but not Ogo.
Please tell me what settings I should apply so that the Ogopogo always appears.

[forest zenith]

You could increase its weight on March and Vow. More weight = more likely to spawn

[vestal plume]

that is super super weird

maybe it's bad luck? it should be spawning

if you want the ogo to always appear you could just increase its weight on those moons

[rose sequoia]

it is :C

[vestal plume]

if you want it there 100% of the time you can just do 9999

[rose sequoia]

oh okok

[strong crater]

i think the weights are too low, especially if you have other modded creatures with much higher weights eating it all up
If you use something like LQ you can compare the weights across different enemies and balance it better

[vestal plume]

they are intended for vanilla, so yeah they're low

[strong crater]

Makes sense

[vestal plume]

changed em cuz I think it's better to take vanilla into account rather than modded esp for a "spectacle" enemy like Ogopogo

and also cuz some people kept complaining about the spawn weights being too high

even though there's a fucking config

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276345828671225946/1295127339763630102/735dsosew5pd1.gif

I do think they're at a good spot rn balance-wise

and I don't think there's many daytime enemies in modded to eat up weights for Ogo

though, maybe it's from surfaced enemies? no idea heheh

[west remnant]

I have the ogopogo weight set to like 200 on march and vow

I've never seen it spawn

[nocturne isle]

have you tried

OTHER moons?

I suggest trying adamance for example

It spawns a decent amount there

[vestal plume]

have you visited all the lakes?

also, what other enemy mods do you have?

[vestal plume]

it's just a lot more noticeable on adamance since there's only one body of water for it to spawn on and it's right behind the ship

[nocturne isle]

o

do other enemy mods conflict

with ogo?

also it would be pretty funny if ogo could eat the shockwave gal

imagine watching robot waifu die

to a giant whale fish thing

idk

[vestal plume]

no, I'm asking because they might be overpowering ogopogo spawns if there's too many during the day

[nocturne isle]

maybe the uhh

the purple guys are overpowering

i would call them P/D word but thats offensive now

[soft raft]

Shockwave gal kills ogo lol

Literally

[nocturne isle]

imagine

[inland cloak]

Ogopogo aint surviving

She solos biodiversity no diff

[inland cloak]

No need to imagine, if she gets close enough to an ogo its dead

[nocturne isle]

"Ima fire my lasah" - Shockwave gal, probably.

[vestal plume]

except leaf boys

[tropic ingot]

The spare change in my pocket:

[soft raft]

The limit is what I give her, her presence will destroy all leafy bois

[vestal plume]

damn I guess I'll have to ask Ccode to make Ogopogos eat the robo bitch 😔

[soft raft]

If its an arms race no ones beating me

[vestal plume]

scratches balls

smells finger

[tropic ingot]

WHAT

[vestal plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829803369413214249/1269671516573007954/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[graceful sedge]

||cant wait for some sea mine gal||

[soft raft]

Seamine gal explodes montys balls

[crystal trellis]

save some for me

[vestal plume]

LMFAOOOOOOOSADJSAIOJIO

[graceful sedge]

she follow, she assist, but one player collision and- [Rodrigo laughing in the distance]

[inland cloak]

In the end

I always win

[inland cloak]

Finger named kid

[tropic ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/barber-barbers-clay-surgeons-clay-surgeon-master-gif-2494744165243880477

[frozen mist]

@vestal plume Ogopogo is very unoptimized, had it pop out of the ground twice, the second time it appeared the game error spammed and turned into a slide show on Seichi

""GetRemainingDistance" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh."

Spammed this

[vestal plume]

hehe

anyway we had some issues with Ogopogo on Seichi last game sesh but itthe moon probably doesn't cause this stuff so don't bother s1ckboy about that

[soft raft]

There's a small possibility it was the shockwave gal doing this, though I doubt it

@solid flax broken moon, please f1x

[soft raft]

Assuming she was roaming around to begin with

[vestal plume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/608475891114442783/1120440422821535864/caption.gif

[solid flax]

waa

[soft raft]

Anyway pretty sure ogopogo can't even give off navmesh agent errors

It doesn't use the navmesh afterall

[frozen mist]

We didn't have her on there

Maybe it was the Jester in SDM though

Idk I just know that was what Pepsiman saw spam, I'mma check my own logs later

[solid flax]

idk how you got issues with Ogo on Seichi tho cuz he was tested there so many times

[vestal plume]

I doubt it's an Ogo seichi issue or just seichi issue, it's just the go-to custom moon for Ogopogo I suppose

[vestal plume]

oh yeah, you could try refreshing your config, that could help fix the issue

same with you @rose sequoia

[void onyx]

where uhm erm uhmm where.. where is he

[latent fog]

[inland cloak]

Right over here

Just follow me into the back rooms

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[vestal plume]

killt him....

[inland cloak]

cant lure anyone into an animatronic suit these days without monty ruining it 😔

[bronze badger]

ogopogo is now one of my favorite monster now, its just a shame that he is very hard to implement in other moons

[graceful sedge]

the oingoboingo is easily the best in Biodiversity.

[inland cloak]

Oingoboingo gal when?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[vestal plume]

ogopogo is clearly a dude

father of 12

[inland cloak]

or is she?

https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-evil-mastermind-vsauce-evil-mastermind-gif-27579269

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1109635584214962208/1167907042560835744/jjpQGeno.gif

Imaginary technique : Head canon

[graceful sedge]

||Lethal Harem||

[sacred delta]

QWERTY never fails to make me question the modding communities sanity.

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

crazy?

[graceful sedge]

🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[graceful sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/being-thrown-away-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-prime-flown-away-knock-back-gif-27269464

[tawny sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/he-would-have-died-reaction-speed-jump-jump-out-of-the-way-dodge-gif-25320498

[elfin delta]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-puppy-reaction-side-eye-side-eye-meme-gif-7155344129436762996

[tropic ingot]

This is horrifying

[vestal plume]

update on this!

never had the issue myself personally, but it seems it might be this

[latent fog]

Just looked at the code and EnemyAI doesn't call this function. I'm looking into what else could be causing it.

what other mods were installed that could use this?

mostly AI patches would do that but it's not starlancer. I already looked at their code

Also the full log would help me find what's causing it

[vestal plume]

*taps the sign

[inland cloak]

Eats the sign*

[frozen mist]

It was SCP999 that did it, we've already reported the bug

[vestal plume]

whoop whoop

good to know!

[frozen mist]

Thought it was Ogo cus the lag started during that game the 2nd time Ogo popped up lol

Lol

Just was a bad coincidence

XD

I just knew Ogopogo popped out of the water and then frames died

Lmfao

[bronze badger]

I couldnt verify yet, but does ogopogo spawn in in flooded weather whatevet the planet is or as long there is water he will ?

Or its much more complicated than that

[vestal plume]

it just spawns wherever there's water

but there's a few checks to prevent buggy behavior

[bronze badger]

ho

[vestal plume]

it can't spawn in interior water or during flooded weather

[bronze badger]

because i've seen we should not put spawn weight on others moons, so i was wondering

and during flooded i could spawns vermin and they could swim casually in the watah

[vestal plume]

mhm, it's because of how we handle its spawning and because of how moon makers set up their moon's water that it's not nearly as flexible as we would like it to be

[bronze badger]

so yeah if we want it on other moons, we have to make an entire patch for a moons pack so ?

Polarus looked perfect to have 5 ogopogos for example

😂

[vestal plume]

polarus indeed does work

all compatible moons are in the default weights, though i've been updating it on the unreleased version so the selection is probs not as extensive on the current config

[bronze badger]

hmmmmm i will check something

[vestal plume]

here is every single Ogopogo compatible moon

[soft raft]

gloom has water?

[vestal plume]

the ones with "0" are there because they simply don't work gameplay wise, they do however spawn just fine and don't break

[vestal plume]

there's a big lake right of the ship

wesley's ruining the compat by adding a singular pool of water inside the cave though

[soft raft]

oh maybe i never noticed because wesley is literally batman

0 light sources

[vestal plume]

buy flashlights

[soft raft]

😔

[bronze badger]

cuz i have Wesleymoons, widerstein moons, voxx moons, rosies moons,generic moons, distinctmoon variety

so yeah there is only 1 or 2 moons that is very big aqua worm compatible

[vestal plume]

never checked if the forest moon from distinctmoons is compatible

[bronze badger]

wesley is just a psyco

[vestal plume]

prolly not

[velvet patrol]

Even if it was I cannot imagine it'd be fun having the Ogopogo right there next to main and a fire exit

[vestal plume]

isn't there a bit of water in front of the ship?

also yeah it wouldn't be LMAO

but i'd just add it to the config as a compatible moon

[daring steppe]

Seichi tbh

[vestal plume]

thing with seichi's spot is that there's a ton of other spots you can go to to avoid it

on distinct's forest moon there's nowhere to run basically

[daring steppe]

I haven't played it for a hot minute but I remember it being right next to the bridge next to the main entrance lol

[vestal plume]

it's p much just on that big lake behind main and the other fire exits

which means you can kinda just go around it in most cases

[velvet patrol]

Nah there’s only the 2 lake pits in Main’s area

What does it take for Ogopogo to play nice on modded moon water anyways? Just make sure the water triggers are set up nicely?

[vestal plume]

make sure the water doesn't go that far into the ground, basically

most custom moons do their water by just putting a big square of water that goes under the whole map

(which is the better way to do it I think?)

vanilla has its water set up like as separate squares

this is an approximation to what march (best Ogopogo moon) does w its water (red square = water)

this is what modded moons usually do

[velvet patrol]

Ah, I see. Mine is just 1 big square covering both pits at main if I remember correctly

So like not the whole map but still lazy

[sacred delta]

Moon makers feeling called out rn

[vestal plume]

not lazy, I'm pretty sure it's the most optimized way to do it, esp if the size of the body of water is bigger than a tiny pond

what happens is Ogopogo will always try to spawn in the center of the water plane

[vestal plume]

so if you have this

he'll be riiight under the ship

[velvet patrol]

Ahh okay, yeh maybe lazy is the wrong word to use there

If only there was a way to maybe improve how the Ogopogo spawns to account for moons that handle water like that possibly... But I'd assume that'd be understandably hard given how unique Ogo is being a completely water based entity

[vestal plume]

prolly is

just not gonna work on it anytime soon cuz we wanna have new dudes for people to play around w

[vestal plume]

also yeah it might be hard

[bronze badger]

there is no way for the game to detect water ? like flooded water is not the same water as normal water that is present by default on maps ?

[soft raft]

There are a lot of ways to achieve what they need/want with ogopogo

From what I can tell they're more interested in making the other enemies rn

[inland cloak]

Water is hawwwd > ~ <

[bronze badger]

its not the only thing, it seems like alot of stuffs in LC are non logicaly hard to work it

[inland cloak]

zeekerss code

[soft raft]

A lot of people say that, but I think the one thing I can recall rn hating is a unity problem lol

A lot of stuff could be done better, but I like how zeekerss did most things

[bronze badger]

i would definitely give a try at modding, but after seing plenty of videos im even more confused than before

plus it seems like some tutorials now, are out of date

[inland cloak]

rip tutorial squid

[soft raft]

Oh yeah getting into modding is really annoying, not even this games fault its just some tutorials are too old

[soft raft]

He still up to date trust

[bronze badger]

the thing that pissed me off when i tried modding, is that i wanted to place a Terrain object but it was nowhere to be see

it was just only "plane" but its not even editable

i remember that with terrain you could textures, model with the brush that make the terrain go up or high ETC

but just that i couldnt find it back so i eventually gave up

[soft raft]

Rip lol, but yeah that'd be unity not LC

[bronze badger]

Massive L for Unity then

with all those tutorials i saw that no longer works, im no longer fund to keep trying modding

until a miracle came up i guess

[soft raft]

Happens

[vestal plume]

yah

[soft raft]

Enemy tutorial is still up to date and I'm making an item one but that's about it, model replacement is also still up to date (used it a bit ago( and starlancers moon one is also up to date I believe

[vestal plume]

and like I said Ogopogo's fun comes from what it adds to a layout, so more likely than not if it was 100% compatible with all water moons it'd be uber annoying on almost all of em

weeh

[vestal plume]

yeah starlancer made a new one a month ago I think

[bronze badger]

also the Ogopogo doesnt show in the /enemies list when i want to spawn it

[vestal plume]

what mod you using?

[sand vortex]

fr?

[soft raft]

genuienly yeah

[sand vortex]

do u mean in terms of his code or like how the game is put together kinda?

[soft raft]

the code

i think theres a lot that could be better

but i think its overhated lol

[sand vortex]

BRO

i dont even have to try, take a look at this dumb shit:

[soft raft]

😭 i've managed to dance over his code just fine, making something as disruptive to the game as a hoverboard with physics as an item should've caused a lot of problems but it really didnt lmao

[soft raft]

i mean yeah theres some places with a lot of fucking waste

[sand vortex]

he jus calls UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectOfType every time and doesnt cache jack shit

[soft raft]

my problem isnt that, that is obviously garbage

its when people look at something like enemyai

and call it garbage when its not even that bad

i would only really use network transforms instead of rpc'ing the position and use interfaces instead of a couple overrides

like as modders, some people just complain too much for no reason, atleast in my pov

[sand vortex]

i mean its not like literal dogass poo poo cuz then it wouldnt work, but theres lots of complaints I have about it. Generally tbh in all fairness, most of these complaints are just like programming nitpicking shit

like it wasnt built for modding in mind which is fair enough

[soft raft]

yea plus for his like, first unity game its even amazing really

well

its kinda shocking he never learned about proper networking

with like 1 year~ working on LC with unity i assume

[sand vortex]

yea idk why he does the client ownership switching shit

[soft raft]

he stopped doing that for his newer enemies i think

i think he tried to use network transforms at some point

and u can see it with the client ownership too

he has a client network transform defined in his code

but idk what docs he got the code from, its completely wrong

and he probably never realised and couldnt figure out why client network transform never worked

so he gave up on it#

[sand vortex]

bro jus left it there as an easter egg 💀

[soft raft]

i found out it was wrong when i tried using it myself

ended up adding it into my ow nmod

[sand vortex]

u used the network transform thingy instead of the rpc stuff for an enemy?

[soft raft]

the manual rpc'ing he does for enemies doesnt work at high speeds like coilhead speeds

its easily noticeable once you animate the enemy with a speed that high

i dont use a client network transform for enemies tho

only the normal network transform

client network transform got used in the hoverboard

[sand vortex]

nah theres these two values u have to fuck with, i dont have a clue how they work and cba to find out, but it influences how frequent the transform is synced or something like dat

[soft raft]

nah nah yeah, there's technically 3 values

[sand vortex]

bruh 3

tf

[soft raft]

DoAIInterval speed, sync movement speed, and update position threshold

[sand vortex]

oh nah the AIInterval doesnt touch le transform

i think

[soft raft]

problem is, you're not supposed to make DoAIInterval really small, the point of it is to be a lesser update

nah it has the uh

rpc

in it

i think

thats what we override

[sand vortex]

oh bruh i didnt even realise that was there lmao

i thought it was in update

[soft raft]

mhm

[sand vortex]

why in gods name is it in ai interval ffs lol

[soft raft]

no idea

[sand vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[bronze badger]

Chat commands

[vestal plume]

imperium's better for testing that kinda stuff

[bronze badger]

I've tried using imperium it was confusing as hell 😅

[latent fog]

Yea it has a few buttons but if you look around you can eventually remember where stuff is.

[vestal plume]

just use f1 for spawning if that's what you're testing

[molten lark]

Chat are your bios diverse

[smoky roost]

Perchance

[soft raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ5V1ouKSAY erm, what the sigma

idk if you guys can speak japanese, but ye, i like these guys

[inland cloak]

Biodiversity the anime

[sand vortex]

no aloe in the vid 😢

[vestal plume]

omg they used my pictures waoh!!!

[vestal plume]

I think they played w the mod before and saw it

[sand vortex]

o

[vestal plume]

or maybe I'm getting them mixed up w another group of japanese dudes who play lc

[tropic ingot]

Does the carnivorous plant come from this mod?

Motherfucker just spawned out of NOWHERE on Dine.

[inland cloak]

thats code rebirth

[tropic ingot]

You don't believe how baffled I was to see that motherfucker just manifest out of nowhere on Dine

[inland cloak]

womp womp

[tropic ingot]

That's a good thing

[crude turret]

Day 7958 No Wax Soldier

[bronze badger]

your leaking Shylily monster ???

[graceful sedge]

given how that's grammared, and Shylily's tendencies, you basically said, "His leaking Shylily monster".

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-hamster-hamsters-cartoon-cartoon-hamster-gif-26952531

[sweet ridge]

Day 7958 and I still don't know that Modeling, Animation, Programming, and Bug Fixes take a long time

[inland cloak]

The next surfaced update gonna be out before biodiversity updates

https://tenor.com/view/alex-geerken-geerken-animator-animation-cartoon-gif-16352410

[strong crater]

Turtle

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-cute-eating-strawberry-gif-16162389

biodiversity will add turtles

[strong crater]

Favourite mod now

[sweet ridge]

Add a cat and make it purple

[graceful sedge]

so in short, i dont need MattyFixes, i just need something to keep rotations from going off the heezy?

[peak trench]

me when the update is being polished while also still adding content

[inland cloak]

ye the surfaced update is still being polished

adding sea mines is hard work

[soft raft]

Unironically I was looking over the code earlier to fix a big Bertha bug

[inland cloak]

nuh uh

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-hamster-hamsters-cartoon-cartoon-hamster-gif-26952531

live surfaced progess

[soft raft]

Lol

Anyway ogopogo gal wen

She drags u to bed

My own original idea

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-crab-crab-with-a-knife-hes-got-a-knife-dont-touch-me-bro-get-off-gif-18793247

he has a knife but still uses his claw

is he stupid?

[soft raft]

Hes multi talented

[graceful sedge]

Spearer Mantis Shrimp. long ranged attacker, jabs into ya and drags you around. 5 damage every second your stuck. spam spacebar to resist

here's the kicker, it uses an actual spear

[strong crater]

Its a bait
He sticks out the knife so the opponent watches it instead of the claws

[vestal plume]

he's a guy and a father of 16

[vestal plume]

ew he's literally 364... weiiiird!!!!

[vestal plume]

NOOOO

[inland cloak]

give me a big enough fork and i will slurp up ogo like a spaghetto

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/fork-tenedor-sticks-rage-humor-gif-12095987

[void onyx]

hire me

I'm professional modder

[inland cloak]

Youre hired to work on the 50 hoarding bug variants

[rotund briar]

hey what is the aloes internal name or whatever its called?

just had a harbinger tp him outside and he just froze

im guessing his ai isnt supposed to be outside or whatever

[vestal plume]

the Ai isn't made for the outside, no

Surprised harbinger doesn't take that into account

[vestal plume]

just Aloe

[rotund briar]

alr thanks

[soft raft]

How would it?

[vestal plume]

by not tping enemies outside at all lol

[rotund briar]

the harbinger was already outside

[soft raft]

I mean, that's not taking it into account but yes that'd be the way to do it

[vestal plume]

innside vanilla AI also doesn't work properly when put outside

[soft raft]

Kinda does, starlancer ai fix doesn't really do much

[vestal plume]

it somewhat works, but they all break after a bit

[soft raft]

It does something because vanilla doesn't expect it to go outside, but it's very easily doable

[vestal plume]

the whole gathering on the other side of the ship thing and not moving

[soft raft]

Probably cuz of custom interactions tbh

[soft raft]

If that happens with starlancer ai fix then that's a bug

That's not a side effect

[vestal plume]

not rlly any custom interactions, they just gather on one side of the ship without Ai fix

[soft raft]

Gathering to the side of the ship is just the search breaking

Well yeah

[vestal plume]

no dum dum, that's what happens without AI fix

[soft raft]

You need to do something to tell them what nodes to route to

All ai fix does is set them outside and tell them to look for new nodes

Otherwise if they can't go to any nodes they'll go to the origin of the world

[vestal plume]

mhm, so vanilla AI doesn't work outside proper without starlancer

[soft raft]

Which is the side of the ship

[soft raft]

Sure lol

[vestal plume]

yeah so they break

[soft raft]

Yeah, if u do something not intended, it breaks

That's just how it works for everything

[vestal plume]

blacklisting the Aloe would be the correct thing to do in this scenario then, yeah

unless we get starlancer compatability eventually but weeh

[inland cloak]

unless you have great code like a certain gal coder

[vestal plume]

what are you trying to get at we're on the same page here

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/glaze-gif-8311813170669205912

[soft raft]

It would be harder to get starlancer compatibility than to just implement it natively tbh

[vestal plume]

lol

[vestal plume]

ah true true

[rotund briar]

that is what i intend to do yes

[soft raft]

I agreed with u second message what're you getting at lmao

[vestal plume]

god this wi-fi is so shit!!!!

[soft raft]

If obly

[vestal plume]

idk :D

[soft raft]

Lol

[vestal plume]

I'm eating and only paying half attention to the convo LMAO

https://tenor.com/view/cymbals-monkey-brain-the-simpsons-homer-empty-head-gif-15689692

[soft raft]

This ball muncher...

[daring jewel]

yo is anyone up to the challenge or does anyone know whether this is possible (it should be i think but just making sure)

[sand vortex]

wdym

all ur doing is jus using lego style models n shiz

[daring jewel]

double cheking: you can replace any model, right

[sand vortex]

u should be able to mayyybe

if u mean legit just like copy pasting a model then ye, but idk about stuff like making the ship bigger

for players and enemies theres a few mods that do that kinda stuff, u could copy how they do it

[daring jewel]

alr alr, ty

[vestal plume]

it has been done it's just kinda jank

(talking about modifying the look and size of the ship)

[zinc swan]

@solid flax what are the spawnrates of this enemies on the new generic moons and sniper moons?

[scenic burrow]

i ate them

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-running-running-cat-tole-mei-mei-gif-11885530345771324568

[inland cloak]

i was expecting skyrim with that fade to black in that gif

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-awake-discord-skyrim-intro-skyrim-intro-discord-gif-22633629

[elfin delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844335703650992128/1281733322845720787/Screenshot_20240904_231544_Instagram.gif

[inland cloak]

do you though?

do you really

i dont like sand

It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere

[elfin delta]

i think its yummy...

crunchy

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-peak-yummers-its-yummers-peak-homelander-gif-4634796544937757943

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sand-eat-eat-sand-yummy-gif-20549525

[vestal plume]

don't think I asked generic for weights of the current enemies on his newest moons

only one of them iirc

also ask me that stuff, I'm the one who does the balancing

[vestal plume]

plus we haven't updated in a month which would mean we wouldn't have weights for these moons that released quite literally yesterday, heheh

I have em on the github most likely just not in current release

[scenic burrow]

ough yeah youre right

[vestal plume]

I don't think any of the current enemies fit on the other two so it's fine

[zinc swan]

no problem

[crude turret]

Me when I fucking lie

[vestal plume]

there's been progress on the little man, don't worry

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/guild-wars2-gw2-guild-wars-end-of-dragons-eo-d-gif-22530689

cannon turtle in surfaced confirmed, just has a big cannon to shoot you

[strong crater]

[inland cloak]

/j

https://imgur.com/NwxzGr6

[strong crater]

You dare

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-11026644638307910936

[vestal plume]

bro is reinventing blastoise

[inland cloak]

nuh uh i thought about it first

[strong crater]

I am too easy to bait

[inland cloak]

you just gotta realise what i say, 9/10 is 100% serious

i never lie

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cattitude-cat-beg-begging-begging-cat-gif-21923460

i am a saint

[strong crater]

You are the most chaotic i have seen here
But also funny

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

me, chaotic?

im just a little guy

a little boy

i wouldnt hurt a fly

however wesley is far worse than I

that man scares me

[wicked belfry]

you haven't seen anything yet

[scenic burrow]

wesley killed my grandma okay

[inland cloak]

Ill never forget that look in his eyes... the day he took my family and imprisoned them inside the grandarmory walls

their screams still echo in my mind...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-patrick-bateman-cat-cat-sad-traumatised-cat-gif-1224110864735726916

I hear them call out to me

they say things like

[wicked belfry]

jens minecart

[inland cloak]

"Get us out of here were not dead idiot"

and

"we dont even know who wesley is, go get mental help"

[stable pumice]

[inland cloak]

WESLEYYYYYYYY!

YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS!!!

[strong crater]

Insanity

[inland cloak]

some would say its...

Crazy

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[strong crater]

Crazy? I was crazy once

[strong crater]

Oh no i see where its going

Dammit

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/123-gif-27708605

[rare reef]

…

https://tenor.com/view/yo-you-good-lmao-yeah-thanks-gif-19463505

[inland cloak]

yeah but that shoots water

and water is boring

[rare reef]

Oh NAW if your going to make turret but on turtle make landmine but on turtle…

https://tenor.com/view/hello-turtle-gif-7278850

[inland cloak]

if i make a turtle explode a certain someone will come after me

[rare reef]

Who?

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

The turtle master...

[rare reef]

Oh no

[crude turret]

I made the wax soldier

[inland cloak]

Its not out of wax 😔

Thats the christmas variant

Of an already christmas themed enemy

[crude turret]

no look at his chest, there's a W which stands for wax

see

:(

[indigo hill]

i thought it stood for Wumbo

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-mem-death-dies-gif-8933169301150475516

[rare reef]

LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED THE BOY

[graceful sedge]

VmV

[vestal plume]

wax soldier and his iconic assault rifle

[vestal plume]

why so sad!!!!

[strong crater]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-reimu-reimu-hakurei-live-reaction-goku-stare-gif-17843086582445113317

[warm rivet]

yea can I get uhhhh

It’s me big client

[strong crater]

You

@inland cloak the one that calls you duolingo bird

[sharp solstice]

fein fein fein fein fein fein fein fein fein

[smoky roost]

The fein

[void onyx]

luthor please I am so hungry

I need him

[inland cloak]

Brother, may i please have some oats

[sacred delta]

No.

[inland cloak]

I am starving brother

[sacred delta]

As am I brother, but the tall skinny figures have thrown the oats at me, ME brother. I believe they have taken a liking to me.

[warm rivet]

hey dev man

skin yourself

[vestal plume]

erhm... wrong thread buddy

[velvet patrol]

Clearly this is an issue related to Wax Soldier

https://tenor.com/view/ghostly-pac-man-nerd-emoji-gif-25743236

[bronze badger]

Im going to be honest, i only tested the ogopogo because i loved alot his concept, but after some test my curiosity told me to take an eye to the aloe, and im so upset at myself, because i really love her mechanic and the fact that she also won't ever let you once she kidnap you for the first time.

[warm rivet]

i dont know the mods im playing with

[inland cloak]

the fishy is my surfaced mod and the robot is xu's and mine in code rebirth

also skill issue lol

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-feet-chill-gif-15600510

that fish was a threat

[warm rivet]

I’m writing you in my will

[inland cloak]

theres an enemy blacklist for the robot in the configs for code rebirth

you just gotta add Nemo in there

[warm rivet]

@strong crater get to it

[strong crater]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-reimu-reimu-hakurei-live-reaction-goku-stare-gif-17843086582445113317

[inland cloak]

the robot got jealous of the fish and blew it up

[solid flax]

Cool moon

[inland cloak]

thanks, i made it

[soft raft]

Same

Was a collab with me and Rodriguez

[solid flax]

Mkaaay

[soft raft]

One day you'll make a moon as mythical as mine and Rodriguez

But probably years later

[inland cloak]

sea mine factory moon when?

[soft raft]

When cats rain

[inland cloak]

sigh* lemme get my box of cats and my comically large ladder

[tropic ingot]

@karmic wyvern You and that fucking mile-long ladder of yours

[karmic wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294751628225941504/1298140824575672394/Blender.gif

[vestal plume]

really glad you like both of them <3

[zinc swan]

Guys at what point Is developement of the new update right now?

[inland cloak]

101%

its already out since january

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-feet-chill-gif-15600510

trust me i have insider knowledge

[zinc swan]

DAMN HOW DID I MISS IT

[vestal plume]

Ccode's been working on an enemy and Figo's waiting on some animations

stuff has been slow cuz it's test season here so I can't really do any work myself or direct much :[

some of the stuff coming in the next update are the item config, new sounds for a few already existing enemies and the duck item, a rewrite of the two critters and a new enemy

[crude turret]

This translates to wax soldier

Thank you for the wax monty

[void willow]

is there any fix/changes for current enemies?

[vestal plume]

what would need fixing?

as far as I know everything is just fine other than the aloe's radar being pink and the global fear effect

[void willow]

infinite looking range for the alloe?
or setting the alloe step sounds/Derection range

[vestal plume]

you mean how far away you can spot it from?

[void willow]

yup

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thought about that change.

[vestal plume]

npc suggested it in dms but I really see no need for it, it's identical to the bracken's and noone complains about that

at most I can ask Figo to make the Aloe faster while stalking

[sand vortex]

Nah i can make a config for it, its a simple change

Im suprised i didnt add it alr lol

[vestal plume]

oh wahoo

that's good then

personally I'd be fine without it, and I don't think it would fix the issue people have w the aloe

[tepid smelt]

That would be the sounds that Prototaxes make, right? I was going to say that for some reason it plays globally

Ogopogo I understand, it's a huge ass leech and it actually intimidates

[vestal plume]

that fix is coming with the prototax rewrite

so yeah that'll be dealt with aswell, thanks to Figo!!

[tropic ingot]

Prototaxes should have an intro animation, because one just now airdropped right in front of me.

[vestal plume]

oop, never thought about that lol

will keep that in mind, thanks!

[strong crater]

Dramatic fighting game intro
Some exposition, camera swivelling around, dramatic closeup, theme music, camera pans back out to the player and prototax and then resume

[tropic ingot]

10000quotastare

[tropic ingot]

EnotYeah

[vestal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/ssjg-ssjb-god-goku-goku-ssjg-gif-3328136327289107122

this but with the prototax

[tropic ingot]

Oh yeah, another issue with prototaxes is that their spore releasing sfx is global. I've had a very annoying instance with this where I assume an eyeless dog was stuck infinitely attacking a prototax, causing their spore releasing sfx to be infinitely spammed.

[strong crater]

Yeah basically

[tropic ingot]

Either way, I don't really get why it's global anyway. It's kind of annoying and immersion breaking.

[graceful sedge]

it's a bug. nothing more

[tropic ingot]

Oh, good to know that it isn't a feature.

[strong crater]

Would be a very odd feature

[cosmic widget]

i was gone for a little while

did the mod get an update?

[vestal plume]

yes, like I said it shouldn't be there once the rewrite is out

[vestal plume]

not since a month ago, no

[cosmic widget]

aw

[tropic ingot]

EnotSilly

[cosmic widget]

you should make a variant of the hoarding bug

[vestal plume]

it's in our plans!

[cosmic widget]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-horderbug-yippee-gif-gif-5658063361159083327

[charred ore]

what if he was called the giver bug and he gave you items because he HATES SCRAP

[queen acorn]

NOOO

[inland cloak]

What if instead of a hoarding bug, it was a bug. Wouldnt care about scrap, it would just bug around

[peak trench]

that'd be stupid

[wicked flame]

guys monty shot me in the chest 3 times in an alleyway behind a crowded bar and left me to bleed out do you think that's a little rude??

[queen acorn]

WHAT

[sacred delta]

Next time politely ask him not to and say you don’t talk to strangers.

[peak trench]

that didn't happen

[astral flame]

i was the in the dump in the alley and i saw it happen

[daring jewel]

i was the oxygen molecule near the streetlight, can confirm that it's real

he said "hey bro, i've been working on wax soldier's weapon, wanna check it out?"

[vestal plume]

I was monty

[solid flax]

hey guys Im monty now

[vestal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/flaker-sonic-flaker-i-found-you-flaker-gif-13224793614773539385

[daring jewel]

hey guys its me monty

im gonna leak info

biodiversity full release coming out early 2028

[vestal plume]

probably!

[soft raft]

Unironically full release might take longer

[median fractal]

what do the wax soldiers do? 🤔

[inland cloak]

They use this special attack called log spam

Attacking your game directly

Its pretty op imo

Needs a nerf