Biodiversity - Expanding Lethal Company's flora and fauna.

[vestal plume]

we updated and fixed em

0.1.3.

[tribal loom]

that's amazing

haven't seen em yet though

thought they were supposed to spawn when the ogopogo takes you underwater aswell

[vestal plume]

yeh you'd have to play flooded and stay pretty late or get grabbed by ogo

[vestal plume]

they do yeah

[soft raft]

from his old logs when the bug happened it states it there, but otherwise nah

[tribal loom]

strange cause they didn't seem to

[vestal plume]

well it probably errors cuz it's not in water or smth?

[vestal plume]

you probably still have the setting disabled

[tribal loom]

just checked and i don't

[soft raft]

it errors cuz it tries to find water but obv it cant since water doesnt exist while leaving the moon

[tribal loom]

also is this real?!?!?

[vestal plume]

nah, think of it like LethalThing's Maggie

unimplemented enemy still in code

[vestal plume]

yeah makes sense

[tribal loom]

can't wait for it to come out

[soft raft]

could be the cause, but im not about to try and time the ogopogo's search function to figure out if its the cause

[vestal plume]

anyway I'm fairly sure enemies staying like this only happens when your mod list changes in between sessions on a savefile

from experience at least

[tribal loom]

it doesn't bother me that much anyway

also haven't been able to reproduce it since so who cares

[soft raft]

good thing you're tyhe only biodiversity user eh?

[tribal loom]

exactly

hope this mod becomes popular one day

[late hazel]

nah doubt it lol jk

[tribal loom]

fr it's kinda ass

[vestal plume]

everyone here gets a rock smashed into their forehead and a stick through their brain

congratulations!!!!!!

[solid flax]

https://tenor.com/view/getlit-blazekik-kik-meme-gif4kik-gif-1778728320613035878

[late hazel]

How can I get my most recent logs? When I go to find them its always old logs

I'm not use to gale yet

[tribal loom]

don't blame me man xu said being hurtful is evolutionary lol

[vestal plume]

wrong!!!! you get a rock

[vestal plume]

yeah I installed it cuz it's supposedly better but I hate getting used to new UI so I canned it

[late hazel]

I can not stand thunderstore its so slow.

I also like Gale config settings better.

But I can't find my most recent logs though?

I keep crashing and there is an error but It closes out to fast

I'm gonna just blame Biodiversity for my crash lol

[tribal loom]

might be a dumb question but good thing im surrounded by smart people, does it matter whether my friends use the same manager or not? i use gale and they use uhhh not gale

forgot the name

[late hazel]

Nope as long as they use your code and everything is the same.

Sometimes I have people who need to use Thunderstore in my group.

[tribal loom]

thanks mate

also not for configs and stuff?

[ebon dome]

they should be compatible, tho i have a super rare case where one of everyone who play used thunderstore and they cant get in with all the code i send them lol

[late hazel]

Ok I think I know what I did wrong. I accidently loaded a save up in vanilla not knowing it was vanilla and now that its on modded I think the save just broke. Turns out its not Bio Diversity and is just a User Error.

[ebon dome]

oh ye that usually happen
i always make new save if i make changes to the mods

[late hazel]

I just wanted to test something out cause I knew I had some weapons on that one. Trying to add stuff to reserved weapon slot

[ebon dome]

tho my friend is being funi and keep using the same save, blaming me for all the broken stuff even tho they the one who asked to add more mods lmao

[late hazel]

lol yeah thats how it usually goes.

[late hazel]

I'm kidding Monty I'm Sorry!!!!! You know i've been dieing for this update to drop!

[soft raft]

dieing

nice

[late hazel]

It was not an easy decision to disable them. I could handle Ogo's errors just not Aloes. I love Ogo and Aloe! Shroom is ok, if he could die it would be better just cause of the stuff I mentioned before with becoming a weapon of mass destruction. and then there are Leaf Boys. I'm on the fence about these guys. They tend to make dogs go stupid but then I go stupid thinking I can kill the dog, and then Dog goes HA GOTCHA

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/violin-tiny-cute-gif-15898508

[ebon dome]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3466351

[inland cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3rNUhDqciM

[late hazel]

Don't you even come in here with that! lol you and your silly little murder bird has gotten me into so much trouble lmfao my players will not let me hold that bird anymore

[inland cloak]

hehe

its just a little guy

[late hazel]

I know right!

[inland cloak]

also no clips 😔

[late hazel]

I've got tons of clips just zero motivation to shift through them

Also my people found a way to weaponize it.

[inland cloak]

tis a great weapon in the right hands

[neon panther]

I made a nice clip from glitchs' stream, although totally unrelated to all of this lmao

[late hazel]

Well mine are not the right hands lol

Nut I forgot to check that one out lol

[sand vortex]

u can individually set certain entities to spawn/not spawn

[late hazel]

I know I was just giving my feedback of things.

[sand vortex]

o oke

[hot skiff]

What happened in 1.3? Not in changelog.

[neon panther]

V1.3 changelog

Fixed a lot of stuff
Broke some other stuff

[tribal loom]

they added space ogopogos

[vestal plume]

couldn't put a changelog together cuz I had no power

Version 0.1.3.

Ogopogo:

• Implemented blacklist to prevent wandering on certain moons (Thanks Ccode).
• Fixed bug where Ogopogo would be able to grab people who are inside the ship. We implemented a check to "block" the grab if the grab box touches a ship-bound player.
• Fixed a bug where Ogopogo would soft-lock players when the grab box touched two people at the same time.
• Change default lose range from 70 to 60.
• A buncha other bugfixes idk

Vermin:

• Fixed them entirely.
• Made them spawn on Ogopogo as opposed to their water origin.
• Implemented Vermin moon blacklist, included Adamance and Dine by default since they "un-flood"
• Enabled them in the config.

Aloe:

• Fixed neck IK script breaking like crazy and causing her to spaz out at times, sorry 'bout that!
• Fixed typo caused by usage of a different english type which lead to logspam about Aloe's skin color.
• Changed heal animation to make the Aloe look down.

[hot skiff]

thx

[oak axle]

ogopogo doesn't work on aquatis or cesspool? I see they were removed from the default value

[vestal plume]

cesspool is always flooded, so Ogopogo can't spawn in there

aquatis ogopogo was annoying to deal w so I removed it, still works perfectly fine though

[oak axle]

Oh real

[graceful sedge]

im keeping the oingoboingo on aquatis. cesspool however, yea.

[inland cloak]

oingoboingo

[graceful sedge]

yea, the ooglepoogle

[soft raft]

The water leviathan

Earth leviathan

And air leviathan

[graceful sedge]

a worm with wings and a jet engine

[neon panther]

https://tenor.com/view/kupu-kupu-terbang-sayap-biru-film-gif-11777115

[graceful sedge]

no peanuts tho. OSHA violation because allergy bs

[neon panther]

cashews are fine tho

[graceful sedge]

nah, still falls under nuts

[neon panther]

I can buy cashews on planes where I'm at 🤷

(not the US)

[inland cloak]

no nuts allowed

only crackers that are too hard and dry to eat

and a barrel of salted fish

prime for a seafaring expedition

[graceful sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-sparrow-smiles-johnny-depp-gif-3829357382943597812

[tired cedar]

I know Ogopogo is buggy af with modded moons, but has anyone been able to get it to spawn on Polarus? I think it breaking through those small patches of water on the ice sheet would be a hell of a surprise.

Don't know if that map uses normal water or custom water though.

[sturdy walrus]

is the ogopogo fun to deal with? i have this mod but i use it with lethal quantities and i've only been using the aloe.. am i missing out?

[vestal plume]

I think it's pretty fun

it's a roadblock enemy, so it forces different approaches to navigation

[vestal plume]

probably normal wate

[sturdy walrus]

is there a list of planets it can spawn on?

[vestal plume]

if I had to guess it's a single bit of water stretching throughout the whole map, land included

but I'll check rq

[vestal plume]

Vow, Adamance, March, Gorgonzola, Seichi and Submersion by default

but it works just fine on Gloom (apparently) and Aquatis

[vestal plume]

it is absolutely hellish but it works

[hidden pollen]

Please no

[vestal plume]

vermin also seem to work okay

[void willow]

interesing

[sturdy walrus]

since im using lethal quantities, do i also need to set vermin spawns or do they just spawn when the ogo is present

[vestal plume]

I'll include it in the defaults with a Polarus:0 weight just to indicate it works there

[sturdy walrus]

could ogo hypothetically work on any planet that can be flooded?

[hidden pollen]

That shit gonna be 1 in 100 chance

[vestal plume]

yes but it would spawn inside the ground under the ship

since it'd look for the center of the water trigger

[sturdy walrus]

oh

thats kind of my issue with ogo tho... im not too sure i like him being a mid game only threat

the way my modpack is setup is very linear so the threats grow as the planet's difficulty rises

[vestal plume]

there's lategame water moons, surely

[vestal plume]

polarus for example

phaedra also works with Ogopogo

[sturdy walrus]

true but i only have ooblterra as a lategame planet (SUPER lategame)

i have it set up like that

[vestal plume]

if oobl has water set up like vanilla it'll probably work there, no idea

[sturdy walrus]

(fune is short for funeral)

[sturdy walrus]

could it at least work on offense without spawning under the ship?

[tribal loom]

EXCUSE ME?

[inland cloak]

lmao

had that happen with horseshoot when it was supposed to be disabled

[tribal loom]

monty lied to me

also its flooding my logs

[vestal plume]

wuh oh

chopping block time!!!

[vestal plume]

yeah cuz the AI is broken

[tribal loom]

i thought it wasn't even supposed to spawn...

[vestal plume]

did you disable it thru the handler?

[inland cloak]

just comment out its plugin registration

[tribal loom]

no lol

[inland cloak]

wont register the enemy on release

[vestal plume]

prolly why

[vestal plume]

will do

[tribal loom]

its on by default cause i didn't touch nuthin

[vestal plume]

thats my bad lol

[vestal plume]

good to know

[vestal plume]

idk why offense would be the exception here

but Ogopogo can't even spawn on flooded to prevent issues like that

[tribal loom]

kinda funny now

[sturdy walrus]

:(

[daring jewel]

omg wax soldier leaked real exposed 2024 🗣️ 🗣️

[tired cedar]

P e r f e c t

[tribal loom]

frfr

[tired cedar]

Time to scare my friends by putting it there

[vestal plume]

gloom also works

for the moment

[tribal loom]

second time 🔥

should probably disable it

[vestal plume]

yeah lmao

[tribal loom]

for some reason it also breaks other monsters around it or could that be smth else

[daring jewel]

that thumper looks like it's going through an anime arc wtf XD

either that or it's absolutely petrified by the wax soldier

[tribal loom]

lmao

its just standing there staring at it

[daring jewel]

i never knew that thumpers had a white bracken eye, that's kinda crazy

[frozen mist]

I was joking lol but yeah I do wonder why the Hoverboard is replacing Jetpacks

[daring jewel]

or is that just the cursor?....

[vestal plume]

probably wax, the code is absolutely since it broke last time

[tribal loom]

its shorter than i expected tbh

[vestal plume]

it's the same height as a nutcracker roughly

[tribal loom]

huh really?

damn

[daring jewel]

it's just plumpier so it looks shorter i think

like it has big pants

[frozen mist]

I forget who in my group started the CodeRebug meme but it's been a running joke ever since when we discover an issue with your mod lol it's not to shit talk you at all XD

[tribal loom]

yeah probably

really like that

[daring jewel]

how does wax soldier face look like out of curiosity

im pretty sure it was a ^_^ kinda thing on the concept art

[tribal loom]

well in game rn its just nothing

but i think that's because its not supposed to be there

[tawny sluice]

cryptid sighting

[tawny sluice]

his textures are placeholders atm as monty works on em

[vestal plume]

cuz the terxtures are placeholders

[vestal plume]

yah

[tawny sluice]

yah

[tribal loom]

makes sense

[daring jewel]

as in like it just doesnt have a face XD

[tawny sluice]

but yea thas how hes planned to look lol

[daring jewel]

ah k

[tawny sluice]

hes jus solid colors for rn

[daring jewel]

yeah that makes sense

is wax soldier planned for liek the next big update or smth, is that why the model's there alr?

[vestal plume]

it was cuz one of our devs was working on it and we just kept it in there

[daring jewel]

ahhh tht makes sense

[soft raft]

They don't use solidlib/coderebirth registration lol

We do things very differently

[vestal plume]

oh lol

[soft raft]

It's not, u gotta broken mod

[inland cloak]

but base enemies still use plugin.cs to register enemies no?

[soft raft]

That's desyncs the terminal

[vestal plume]

eh I'll just make the handler be off by default

[soft raft]

Not necessarily

I dont use plugin.cs, I do in giant specimens

But not in coderebirth

And biodiversity is an overcomplicated mess so probably doesn't use plugin.cs (no offense)

[vestal plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267525506522419381/1277993276867219546/watermark.gif

you've said this before yeah

[hidden pollen]

the comedic duo, waxer and humper

[tribal loom]

humper 💀

[sand vortex]

what do you think about this beautiful code?: CachedDictionary<string, Assembly> cachedModAssemblies = new(className => (from assembly in AppDomain.CurrentDomain.GetAssemblies() let targetType = assembly.GetType(className) where targetType != null select assembly).FirstOrDefault());

a single line

[soft raft]

Why is there a let

Are we back on javascript???

[sand vortex]

idk the ide just converted my foreach into a lambda thingybob

[astral flame]

watermark my beloved

[inland cloak]

I hate watermark >:(

[astral flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046610992974536735/1270438353854009416/fact.gif

[inland cloak]

I fight you

[astral flame]

heuuheheueh

[astral flame]

YUMMERS

[inland cloak]

YUMMERS

[orchid harbor]

YUMMERS

[hard helm]

SCRUMDIDDLYUMPTIOUS

[daring jewel]

YUMMERS

[nocturne isle]

what

anyways

mr bio

is there gonna be a different version of the old bird in biodiversity?

or will there be no changes to big robot bird

[stoic vortex]

Maybe yes, maybe not.

[nocturne isle]

hmm ok

[frozen mist]

@vestal plume just confirming with you that Hiccubz was playing on a new save last night

[sand vortex]

bro there aint nooo way that bio caused that bug

[frozen mist]

She said it was bio spamming the logs so

I also noticed on my own end the new update gave me micro-stutters

went away after disabling it

[sand vortex]

thats something unrelated tho

i will fix it

[sand vortex]

that might be the oogo

possibly

[frozen mist]

Yeah maybe

[rare reef]

imagine ogo on liquidation

[inland cloak]

saddly cant imagine liquidation

though i can visualize ogopogo eating an apple

[mental smelt]

Like a big apple or a small one

[inland cloak]

precisely 78 goobels in lenght

[late hazel]

Might be a conflict with another mod. Ran it for 6 hours tonight on stream and ran a few hours of testing prior. Never experienced the issues. Not even stutters from ogo. Try maybe disabling creatures one at a time with Bio and testing?

[late hazel]

Try with Vermin off. I never ran into issues of stutter, but I kept Vermin off. Saw no point in them when Ogo already kills clients anyways.

[frozen mist]

I think more so it's a rng issue

Since she did multiple days in a session before it happened

[frozen mist]

However if it's a mod conflict issue I would say probably LCBetterSaves

It seems likely to be an issue with Ogopogo though cus it was after she went to Seichi

[vestal plume]

had the same thing, played for like 6 hours

[vestal plume]

I really don't see the relation and the fact I don't have logs of this doesn't help your theory

[frozen mist]

Not my fault she never saved her log

[vestal plume]

when it happened to me I was on Assurance, so it wouldn't be Ogopogo

[frozen mist]

But you can probably watch the vod

[vestal plume]

if she shows logs on the vods yeah, otherwise I don't see much of a point

[frozen mist]

Could it also be an issue of save reloading? Cus I know she does that often

If your mod is breaking from that then that's bad

Oh wait I just noticed she had CodeRebirth's meteor shower the game that it broke

and I've seen someone mention issues with that recently

But I don't understand why the console would be spamming stuff about Biodiversity if it was that

I will say there is definitely a performance regression with the current version though, dunno if it would explode on my pack or not however

Cus just having the mod on I feel like stutters when moving my mouse around and walking around on the ship, almost like a slight rubber-band type effect

[vestal plume]

that's exactly what it is, and why I asked if the save was "old” or new

the bug happens when you change something in your modlist and then get back on the same save

[frozen mist]

She never changed anything in her mod list as far as I'm aware

Sometimes she goes back to main menu and reloads the save

[vestal plume]

well if I had logs I'd know

[frozen mist]

I wasn't in her stream when it broke to tell her to send the log

Bruh

[vestal plume]

but odds are if there was an Ogopogo cuz they were on Seichi it might be one of them or a Vermin not detecting water and freaking out

[frozen mist]

Yeah I'm thinking that too

[vestal plume]

I know it's just annoying to still be on this when there's no way to tell witha lack of logs imo

[frozen mist]

Yeah I get you

[vestal plume]

log spam is caused by them but that doesn't mean them staying was their fault

they're just spamming logs cuz they're somewhere they don't belong

[vestal plume]

did you try doing the same thing you did last time?

you were complaining about performance on 0.1.2. and then you deleted your mod cache and did a few other things and it fixed it

[frozen mist]

I tried doing all of that

it's just an issue with the current version for me

[vestal plume]

unless something about the ship safe zone is messing with performance I have no idea why that would be the case

@latent fog do you remember if you changed anything that could mess with performance on the ship?

also I had no issues inside the ship when I played yesterday

all my lag spikes were inside

[frozen mist]

Yeah it's not super bad but it's a difference I can feel

I just hope it's not a case of the mod adding reverb triggers in some way, and it's fighting with the mods that are optimizing them

Cus I could easily see that being the case somehow

[iron furnace]

What mod is that wax soldier thing from?

[tribal loom]

some mod called biodiversity i think

something along those lines

in all seriousness though it's not implemsnted yet lol

[latent fog]

Nope, I didn't. All the code a wrote only runs once the round has started and ogo has spawned

[sand vortex]

I can show you a couple examples of this if you want (as in an error message would mention mod x erroring out, but it was due to mod y doing funky shiz)

As for the other log stuff, ive made 99% of the logs “debug”, which mesnd they will appear in a dark gray colour only if your bepinex is set to show debug logs

[vestal plume]

yeah, I figured since I played for 6 hours straight and had no issues w being in the ship

[sand vortex]

For version 0.1.4 that is

[frozen mist]

I have a theory, maybe it's an interaction with ModelReplacementAPI?

RandomEnemiesSize is also possible, since I've seen people mentioning it causing some rubber-bandy movement like that in the past but as far as I'm aware that was fixed

Yeah disabling ModelReplacementAPI fixes it

☠️

[vestal plume]

[frozen mist]

@vestal plume I would suspect because the mod adds a custom animation for being dragged away by Aloe?

[vestal plume]

it's not a custom animation, it's just a ragdoll script

[frozen mist]

Ahhh

[frozen mist]

I just hope if I ever have to update mods at some point or something tomorrow this isn't gonna explode, since you said the error spam can happen just from small changes like mod updates

That would be bad

😂

[vestal plume]

well no, that's not what I meant

[frozen mist]

Ah good

[vestal plume]

what I meant is that if you revisit a pre-update savefile post-update things can stay during orbit

which is a thing that can happen with any enemy mod afaik

[frozen mist]

Yeah idk what happened in Hiccubz's case, some mod interaction probably I wanna say LCBetterSaves if it did that after reloading a save

[sand vortex]

its not exactly a ragdoll script. It spawns a ragdoll which isn't visible to the player being kidnapped, and then the player's actual body is only visible to the kidnapped player

[frozen mist]

Cus she made a new save, and I know I used to have issues with LCBetterSaves ages ago and I've never tried the fixed version Crit made since that just fixes interactions it has with LethalModDataLib

[frozen mist]

and since you think it's save related LCBetterSaves sounds likely in this case

[vestal plume]

working on getting language support out for 0.1.4.!

[frozen mist]

Found the mod responsible for my ship lag

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/4902/Cruiser_Additions/ Was this mod

Lmao

[vestal plume]

nice

[undone sand]

Liquidation dissent even have any water on it

[rare reef]

The desc for it is “an entirely ocean moon”

[undone sand]

Yea but it dries up

I have seen the moon lol

[rare reef]

🧢

Sorry i dropped my hat

[undone sand]

I did

But it was through a dream

I also saw the interior that comes with it

It was all in a dream

[rare reef]

Truly a source “trust me bro” moment

[undone sand]

Lmao

[limpid steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/olde-ok-hello-kill-me-no-gif-19067713

[neon panther]

modelreplacement api is the cause of like 50% of issues lately

[frozen mist]

Cruiser Additions also is causing weird hitches on the ship

Removing it makes them go away

Granted I looked at Cruiser Improved and it contains basically all the same fixes

[neon panther]

Yeah I saw that in your discord, I was about to launch to test out if I feel a difference

[frozen mist]

Yeah it's weird, I think it's due to some of it's stuff not working

Like the storage light

It's probably erroring out under a try/catch or smth

I might just see how it feels if I disable everything except scrap moving

[neon panther]

I mean I doubt the overlapping features from Cruiser improved help a lot

[frozen mist]

Yeah luckily the overlapping things can be turned off in cruiser additions

Cruiser Improved fixes the magnet stuff

without the errors that cruiser additions cause

[neon panther]

yeah, do let me know if turning of scrap moving makes an impact and I'll come snag your configs

[vestal plume]

Language support for Spanish, German and Russian has been added

I'll wait on two more translations for the german version and release 0.1.4.

[vestal plume]

|| or well, put into the github lol||

[void onyx]

he looks so cool even when unfinished... I wanna lick him

till I get to the core

[iron furnace]

Keep your wax fetishes away from this thread please and thank you.

[void onyx]

I meant licking him like a lollipop and get to the core but okay

you made it weird

[iron furnace]

It kinda sounded weird already...

[void onyx]

that's on you?

thought it was funny

[iron furnace]

Sorry, my bad.

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[void onyx]

I won't continue but I'll make it very clear that I am a minor so I don't think you should be mentioning fetishes anyway

anywho

[soft raft]

Time to change country

[tawny sluice]

offical biodiversity building when u enter ur immediately disemboweled by our life size wax soldier replica

[ebon dome]

watch out for a local ogopogo

[inland cloak]

You mean you will be in the future when that replica is made

Still wip

[tawny sluice]

haha yeah…. sure….. hides suspiciously wax soldier shaped backpack

[inland cloak]

Yeah, leaked enemy

Whats funny is that horseshoot was fully operational ai wise but had no model

So it was a little box that launched you

It actually appeared in a youtuber's video

[dapper mantle]

Are there any current major issues with the mod? Was thinking of adding it to a coop modpack to play with my friend. I read the last posts a bit and seems like Ogopogo is glitched and can appear even when you are in orbit, as well as breaking on modded planets?

[vestal plume]

The orbit thing is a problem that may OR MAY NOT be linked to us, but from experience with bugs like these it seems external (?)

About modded moons, it only breaks on ones that aren't specified in its default config

every other enemy works just fine and has no bugs, apart from some sound desyncs with the Prototax

[dapper mantle]

It only spawns on specified moons, right?

[vestal plume]

mhm, shouldn't spawn anywhere other than the aforementioned specified moons unless you modify the config

[dapper mantle]

Understood. That should be fine then, I will keep it. Too cool of a mod to not include in vanilla-extended funpack 😁

Don't have the ship windows mod installed, we wouldn't see him if he appears in orbit anyway

[vestal plume]

it can spawn on Vow, March, Adamance, Submersion, Gorgonzola, and is compatible with Cesspool, Phaedra, Polarus and Gloom

[vestal plume]

Aww thanks <3

[vestal plume]

The problem with it staying in orbit is moreso that you would "take it with you" to other moons

But again, the problem seems external to us

[dapper mantle]

Oh, like vain shrouds

Eh, will be fun either way

[vestal plume]

That's a fun way to think about it LMAO

[vestal plume]

It shouldn't happen unless you start a save file, play a bit, change/update your mods list and then get back into that same save file

Even then, it should go away if you reload the lobby

[dapper mantle]

Changing mods seems to also screw with the items on the ship. Probably best to do that after losing or restarting lobby, yeah

[dapper mantle]

Didn't get to experience it myself before Zeekers removed them but I heard of people accidentally spreading it to Gordion unknowingly because it "attached" to the ship. Now that would be hilarious to witness

[limpid steppe]

Whats this one

[vestal plume]

Entities staying after you go into orbit

[limpid steppe]

gimmie an example rq

[vestal plume]

from my experience, it only happens when you do this

[vestal plume]

Ogopogo on Seichi not despawning after you leave the moon and go into orbit

[limpid steppe]

Based on what i know about stuff and things I would be shocked if that was correlated

[vestal plume]

lemme fetch a screen cap

.

@limpid steppe

[vestal plume]

yeah idk what it's actually caused by, that's just what's triggered bugs like those before

I've had it happen with vanilla enemies, ooblterra's, rolling giant and giantspecimens' before

it always happens when you use a save from before an update post update or when you reload an old save after you've made significant changes to the modpack

atleast, speaking from experience

but we don't touch anything that would even cause something like this according to Figo and Ccode

GO GIVE THIS MOD A TRY NOW GRAAAH

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/necrowing/XL_Scrap/

my goat necro just released this an hour ago

there's also an API for those interested

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/necrowing/XL_Scrap_Api/

[limpid steppe]

have you ever had it on a vanilla moon

[supple bough]

omg i love this

[chilly dock]

the hand models are still there..

[vestal plume]

Go report it over at #1190596898436952074

I didn't make it I'm just promoting it cuz Necro's cool

[vestal plume]

yeah the one time I had it happen to me with Biodiversity on it was on Assurance

[peak trench]

IT'S REAL!?

[sharp solstice]

I love this mod 😄😄😄

[vestal plume]

thanks a lot <3

the team's done a great job

[carmine swallow]

I actually recently (8 hours ago) requested this mod to have support for Brutal Company Minus, but I honestly didn't have idea which side to contact, so I posted a request on BCM git lol

[vestal plume]

ye probably should be a thing on BCM's side

also would be cool to have hullbreaker compat

though idk if hullbreaker does modded events

[rapid bough]

How can I make it so that the new monsters spawn on modded moons?

[vestal plume]

there's a config where you can put in any moon you want + their spawn chance

[rapid bough]

thanks

[vestal plume]

no problem!

[rapid bough]

can the ogopogo spawn on modded moons?

[vestal plume]

only on these ones

[rapid bough]

k thanks

what is the config called?

[spare karma]

oh, rad!

[vestal plume]

they're all called biodiversity followed by the content of the config

[inland cloak]

Its not 1 config?

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082

[mild crater]

I read about this recently in mod ideas but I didn't think that someone would actually do it, cool

[hot cairn]

Biodiversity causes the fog bug-

idk what mod I have causes this-

Code:
0191eb7d-7656-13e9-5ede-aed738ac04e3

[soft raft]

causes what?

lol something broke ur game

which might be biodiversity

[vestal plume]

fog bug?

@hot cairn what exactly happened?

[carmine swallow]

Drops log, doesn't elaborate, leaves.

[soft raft]

well, log shows that the game instantly broke

so im assuming the fog bug is the green fog when u enter a broken lobby

first error was biodiversity

so

[stoic vortex]

It's Biomonosity's fault, not Biodiversity's.

[carmine swallow]

The code keeps install dates by the original creator of the list, right?

Can pinpoint what they added and when (after adding Biodiversity

Biodiversity -> 1 Day break -> Chameleon -> 2 day break -> JetpackFixes & fiufkis Scrap

So if it wasnt broken when they played chameleon, it must be the last two additions breaking something in this pack

Remove either, test, figure out which, and tada

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I doubt its scrap

[soft raft]

date doesnt really help usually, plus their profile has like no mods, and the error does go towards biodiversity breaking stuff, but after testing it they probably just need to redo their profile or smthn cuz it works fine for me

[carmine swallow]

I'll test it for you

Oh?

With every mod installed?

[soft raft]

its only 38 mods lol

[hot cairn]

yea

I'm like confused on that

idk if it's just a weird error with installing it

[soft raft]

delete ur cache and stuff, or like, redownloaded the mods

[hot cairn]

yea that's what I did I'm gonna see if it that fixes it

[carmine swallow]

Something cursed going on with that pack, it crashes on quitting the game

Like saying "fuck you, you dont get to quit, I crash now"

[hot cairn]

oh hey got the screenshot surprisingly

I'll reinstall biodiversity later and see if that fixes it-

And if not just remake the pack again-

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rael-gif-943215023730044045

[hot cairn]

mood

[inland cloak]

The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart.

[vestal plume]

are you doing stuff manually or via mod manager?

[vestal plume]

ahh the weed fumes

[latent fog]

It looks like you deleted the language files.

[hot cairn]

r2modman-

[hot cairn]

OH

may have accidentally removed it when cleaning config files to regen

[latent fog]

Yea, those are needed lol

[hot cairn]

Lamo

[carmine swallow]

Mystery solved

[mild crater]

weed fumos

[void willow]

Excelente trabajo

[inland cloak]

No hablo ingles

[void willow]

Yo tampoco

[inland cloak]

But you do speak english though

You liar

[void willow]

you are a liar too :]

[vestal plume]

Oui oui!

[inland cloak]

Je ne mens jamais

[void willow]

tu es sûr ?

[inland cloak]

Euh non

Squack*

[mild crater]

я всегда вру

[neon salmon]

Pourquoi ça parle français ici

Lol

[vestal plume]

no entendi soy de boca

[inland cloak]

Gorp

[elfin delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229102990007472288/1282184305707192373/bounce.gif

[sand vortex]

sidenode - why do you have debug logs turned on in your BepInEx.cfg?

[hot cairn]

sometimes it does that when I install it

no clue why it does that

[sand vortex]

oh

cuz there are alot of biodiversity debug logs 💀

[vestal plume]

lmao whack

[soft raft]

dont spam debug logs

:skull

[sand vortex]

isnt it fine tho if they dont have the debug log level enabled?

[vestal plume]

yeah idk why you'd have debug log level enabled

most people I know disable white logs completely on the bepinex config

[soft raft]

still writes and causes background stuff

[sand vortex]

o oke

[daring jewel]

guys guys hear me out:

new mod, triodiversity

biodiversity for biodiversity enemies /j

(i wonder how many layers deep this'sd have to go before all the enemies become unrecognizable)

[mild crater]

healing ogopogo inside the mansion interior

[daring jewel]

oh my goddddd

water-residing giant aloe emitting neurotoxin

[graceful sedge]

SOON™️

[daring jewel]

A time between now and the heat death of the universe

[rare reef]

Why is this /j

[tawny sluice]

i thought abt this once lmao except i called it biodiversity squared

only idea i made up was a submechanophobia ogopogo

[tropic ingot]

I imagine the ||wax soldiers as nutcrackers, but their shakos have been replaced with big-ass candles||

[tropic ingot]

Prototax variant but they're just a purple protogen

Without arms I guess

Fucked up wall dweller

[daring jewel]

prototaz is messed up for me for some reason

one of them spawned on the company moon 💀

another time, there was a whole army of them

like 30

i have the footage and i honestly can't tell if this is a bug, intentional, or someone's using controlcompany

[tropic ingot]

Proot army

[peak trench]

controlcompany doesn't support modded enemies

[vestal plume]

oh?

[vestal plume]

please send a clip and logs if possible

that's so weird lmao

[daring jewel]

logs are long lost sadly

but i have a few clips

yeah there were,,,,,

a....

few

[vestal plume]

how long a-

what the fuck 😭

how long ago was this??

[daring jewel]

like a week or so

[vestal plume]

oh might be fixed then?

[daring jewel]

maybe

i dont think i have the footage any more but a prototax somehow appeared on the COMPANY MOON

mods i had:

• morecomp
• atomicscompany
• biodiversity
• surfaced
• all the others are mostly dependencies

[vestal plume]

maybe it didn't appear there, rather it just stayed from a previous round

weird shit

[daring jewel]

wellll

this was the first time ive ever seen a prototax actually

that round was my first prototax experience

(it was my first time palying biodiversity)

[vestal plume]

but during that quota, did you see prototax before you went to the company?

[daring jewel]

yea

maybe you're right

maybe it did carry over,,.... somehow

[ebon dome]

prototax be runnin away from taxes in uniform

[bright dove]

amogus army

[graceful sedge]

hmm, question. given the Leaf Boi history, is it possible for entities to overwrite the spawns of other modded entities? i ask because i cant get the JPOG T-Rex or Stegosaurus to spawn

[vestal plume]

I mean, I guess that could be possible?

but leafboys don't spawn everywhere, so

are those two dinosaurs daytime spawns?

[graceful sedge]

T-Rex is mid to night, Stegosaurus i believe is morning to mid

[vestal plume]

yeah I don't see em clogging up t-rex spawns I don't think

[graceful sedge]

hmmmmm

[vestal plume]

I could see it for the stego but idk since I haven't had issues w them clogging up any other enemy spawns on vanilla moons

I can get locusts, tulips, manticoils, leafboys and even ogo on adamance

and obv prototax

[graceful sedge]

discussing in the other thread, might be the Prototax or Leaf Boi? another with BioD says both work fine together, but they disabled those 2 entities

of course, no definitive proof

yet

i'll have to test after work

dont like fully pointing a finger without givin it all a go

[vestal plume]

thanks lol

anyway yeah you can turn down the biod spawns or disable em, more reasonable defaults are comin on 0.1.4. since that's one of the things I know to change myself

also max spawn configs

[graceful sedge]

1 leaf boi. goal, find and shoot him with CodeRebirth's flora all set in one stage

[vestal plume]

LMAO

I actually don't know if the game would break if we set the max to 1, since they spawn in groups of 6

hmm

[graceful sedge]

it aint bio. force eclipsed a moon and ol rex was there

[vestal plume]

that tends to happen with some enemy mods I run sometimes

good to know!

[graceful sedge]

i may have another suspicion tho. something that updated the exact day Stego was last updated

[vestal plume]

when I use GiantSpecimens it's really hard to find a balance w it cuz they either appear all the time or never LOL

but they're always there if it's eclipsed

[vestal plume]

oh?

[graceful sedge]

ill give it a try before i share

[graceful sedge]

figured it out. it was config bs. very specific way of entering moon names.

[vestal plume]

So after checking w Ccode I realized that unless there's a separate thing for each moon that caps out entities that can spawn or caps out number of entities that can spawn during a cycle there's no way Leaf boys should limit spawns whatsoever due to them having 0.1 power level

[zinc swan]

How Is It going with the wax soldier?

[vestal plume]

@graceful sedge @frozen mist ||(@ing Lunx cuz I recall them disabling because of that same issue, except with Tulip snakes)||

[vestal plume]

Wax soldier coder left and we're currently working on getting an item config that auto updates when we register a scrap item

Along with getting multi-language support rolled out

[zinc swan]

Oh ok

[zinc swan]

Who was him if i can ask?

[vestal plume]

MBD's back so he's handling the Wax textures instead of me cuz I'm currently too busy with school (that man is a blessing)

[vestal plume]

RoleVote (same coder as the fiend)

[zinc swan]

Oh yeah i saw that

[vestal plume]

just got a lot of responsibilities thrown at him irl so he's left to focus on that

loved working w the guy though

[zinc swan]

It's sad he got away again

[vestal plume]

It is but I'm glad he's focusing on college and other stuff

I ain't bouta be the reason he fails his college classes LMAO

[zinc swan]

Micbird was also really cool

[vestal plume]

Yeah it's a cool concept!

[zinc swan]

Let's Hope that Rolevote come back again once it's more free

[vestal plume]

I'd be down to work w him again, ye

super cool chap

[vestal plume]

Forgot to clarify but once we've got all critter bugs and side features out of the way Figo was interested in taking up Wax a while back before Role came in

so

[zinc swan]

Oh nice

[rare reef]

big sniff pressure reference?

[rare reef]

Erm aktually

The “0” key in question

[tropic ingot]

Yes

[rare reef]

#1191943294612156436

[tropic ingot]

That mod is more dead than my house plants

[rare reef]

Rip

[ripe tusk]

Perhaps

[tropic ingot]

Dead for the time being, I guess

[soft raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSAtACi1Ek these guys are pretty cool, they played with biodiversity earlier yesterday

goodl uck understanding japanese though

[vestal plume]

epic embed fail

gotta love discord

[vestal plume]

oo

[soft raft]

oh no i removed the embed lol

doing <> inebtween link removes embed

[vestal plume]

whar

[soft raft]

<link> removes embed

[forest zenith]

Oh neat, that's nice to know

[hidden pollen]

If we're sharing tips then text makes a hyperlink

[inland cloak]

Press (X) to jump

[mental smelt]

I should write that on a fallen log in the middle of the woods

[inland cloak]

Put yellow paint on it too

[nocturne isle]

@vestal plume

||my friend can't stop making sex jokes about the aloe||

because of the pose 😭

[stable pumice]

Easy fix

Just don't

[vestal plume]

lmaoo

[inland cloak]

Shaking her money maker

[rare reef]

Wait she cannot be stunned

[sand vortex]

She can wdym

[rare reef]

The thingie says stun timer=0

0 second stun

[soft raft]

thats an old video afaik

[sand vortex]

Oh u taking about the vid

*talking

Yea thats like at least 2 months old

[rare reef]

Oh ok

[tawny sluice]

backshots

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-gif-10576260

Never forget when aloe was dethiccified 😔

[tawny sluice]

1984

[hidden wadi]

||Yo does the wax soldier do anything?, encountered one and it just stood still the entire time||

[soft raft]

Should be auto disabled, ig it doesn't, if it's enabled it'll just take space on the power level and cycle stuff

[inland cloak]

for some reason disabling it normally through plugin doesnt work

horseshoot had the same issue

it spawned even when disabled

[soft raft]

I mean

Horseshoot simply wasn't disabled

That's all there is to it really

Biodiversity uses different system than yours but it just boils don't to "x was not disabled"

[inland cloak]

that was false

[soft raft]

Complain to solid

I have a bajillion disabled things in CR in the release lol

[inland cloak]

Maybe i will

[vestal plume]

nah it's in like ultra-pre-alpha

should be disabled but it ain't, it's fixed in the next version

[frozen mist]

I need to ask if your mod could possibly be causing a memory leak issue, since readding it I notice the performance of my game gets really bad the longer a session goes on

I'm trying to isolate what mod it is, cus it's really annoying

[peak trench]

i feel like if it was known this caused a memory leak it'd be fixed by now

[frozen mist]

Do you know of any mods that might?

[peak trench]

no

[vestal plume]

idk, never had any issues playing

[daring jewel]

i just came up with a lootbug variant

ok hear me out: anglerfish that uses scan nodes to lure unsuspecting players

it hides in the steam/in the dark/behind corners and has a scannable "anglerfish antenna" that will show up as a scrap item

and if you get to close, then the anglerfish has its snack :)

sry, the anglerbug*

[north lark]

Why would anyone willingly pick it up though in any situation

[solemn musk]

After they figure out the gimmick,it would likely be ignored every time it’s encountered

More than likely after the first encounter

[north lark]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

[frozen mist]

Yeah I'm not too fond of this idea lol

[sand vortex]

Im pretty sure its not biodiversity, but im gonna check over the whole code to make sure (and fix) anything that can potentially cause a memory leak issue.

I would like someone with more expertise to also comment about this, but I think its more of an issue with having just loads of mods. Most modders prob dont really bother to optimise every little thing, which would build up to cause an issue when there are hundreds of mods

[soft raft]

If you wanna seal the allegations, use that one thing that let's you see performance

[sand vortex]

Unity automatically handles memory stuff; there are only a handful of cases (afaik) where the garbage collection will not automatically work noice

[sand vortex]

Uhh

Wat thjng

[soft raft]

Profilers

That

[sand vortex]

I swear u needa run the game in unity to do that tho

[soft raft]

Something in CR causes your GPU to crash if I don't do it right :3

[soft raft]

Dunno, there's a thing in #1175883003474485369 for that

[sand vortex]

💀

[sand vortex]

Oh nice, ty

[soft raft]

Eh dw I only blue screened my pc from it once while testing

[sand vortex]

I didnt even know c# lets u use the hardware to a degree where u could do thst lol

[soft raft]

You can do break points etc using dnspy too while running thr game

So u can see ur code running line by line

I havent set it up personally but I saw someone use ut in vc

[sand vortex]

Oh damn

[soft raft]

I somehow landed myself into a visual arts and design course in my uni, watch your backs @vestal plume @inland cloak

[inland cloak]

Pfft ok...

this guy is such a toolbag

[soft raft]

You were supposed to be a hero, qwerty....

[inland cloak]

i think i like that name

[vestal plume]

oh cool

good luck!

[soft raft]

Positivity

My weakness

[inland cloak]

Hate makes xu stronger

[soft raft]

Next biodiversity entity

[inland cloak]

Goddamn

[daring jewel]

well, the anglerbug wouldn't move
perhaps its lantern could shapeshift into the scrap it's mimicing, so you'd have to watch out for tiny movements or a stalk connecting to the scrap

[molten lark]

that sounds nothing like a loot bug

and everything like a snare flea

[daring jewel]

yeahhh i thought of loot bug mostly because they're indoor and carry scrap, snare flea could maybe fit better

[inland cloak]

You suggest an anglerfish in biodiversity... 😔

[daring jewel]

._.

i may be stupid---

uhh ok ok surfaced time XD

[inland cloak]

she heals you by dragging you into a mine

cant be hurt if you dont exist

[mild crater]

she heals your way of thinking if you hit her

[vestal plume]

obligated to put this into the fanart channel on the dev server

[void onyx]

I'm sorry

[vestal plume]

I'll never forgive you

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-cat-cat-cold-snow-cat-gif-19846117

never forgive

never forget

a seamine never forgets

photographic memory

[wicked flame]

bobilka

[mental smelt]

New entity.
It’s just the player’s ship but with massive chicken legs like the Baba Yaga’s house

[vestal plume]

ho bobilká

[daring jewel]

it closes and opens the door rlly fast to act as a mouth 💀

https://tenor.com/view/baba-yaga-babka-yozhka-izbushka-late-running-gif-12692765

[mental smelt]

Mfw the ship starts yapping at us

[daring jewel]

ship uses transmitter to yap at you, the teleports you inside of the ship and then inverse teleports you onto a landmine

[mental smelt]

Truly a lethal company moment

[wide flax]

an enemy based around the ship in some way sounds fun

[supple bough]

fake ship that eats you if you walk inside of it

[inland cloak]

Little enemy that pulls the ship lever if nobody is on the ship

Leaving everyone

Bye bye

[vestal plume]

if only you knew

[wide flax]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[graceful sedge]

should such an entity ever exist, make sure it's single player friendly. just have it play with the terminal or something. every 2 irl minutes, it either enters a door or hazard code, or (attempts to) order something from the company

[inland cloak]

The spider in the terminal nibbling on the wires

[vestal plume]

it does none of those things, but it is singleplayer friendly

terminal stuff is done by mods like ghost codes and I don't wanna touch that side of things

the ship isn't just the terminal, so yea

[graceful sedge]

oh iiiiiii getcha

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-max-schreck-count-orlok-vampire-light-gif-5095334

[sweet ridge]

Enemy that makes spider jumpscare lunge at your screen if you turn arachnaphobia mode on

[void onyx]

me installing 500 lethal company mods on the terminal

https://tenor.com/view/robin-fire-burning-building-running-gif-23831914

[inland cloak]

inst there a mod that adds doom to the terminal

meaning you can also add doom mods

[graceful sedge]

yea, but it's probably wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy outdated

[hidden pollen]

I wonder if there are modpacks that go above 1000 mods installed

[inland cloak]

Bet

[rare reef]

Not me wanting a modpack that has EVERY SINGLE MOD

apart from the smaller ones of pairs that cause compat issues

[rare reef]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[daring jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-roleplay-sans-ink-sans-gaster-blaster-gif-1992886997447878741

[vestal plume]

testing new enemy

[west remnant]

I don't see an enemy

💀

[smoky roost]

something tells me that looks very familiar

[ebon dome]

sometimes the enemy is your own self

[mild crater]

scary cube

[void willow]

Hey! I've seen that enemy before!

[vestal plume]

@stable pumice

[wide flax]

scary cube

[graceful sedge]

🧊

[smoky roost]

dear god no

[wide flax]

is the new enemy the fortnite cube

[graceful sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/town-box-proton-juara-proton-juara-proton-juara1-gif-16735279

never 4get

[inland cloak]

MINECRAFT CAR

It... is steve

[stable pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-24788965

[void onyx]

@crude turret

[tawdry oxide]

What's the power level of the Ogopogo?
And are Vermins implemented? Haven't seen them spawn ever and they aren't present in the enemy spawnweight configs

[vestal plume]

they do be present

you should probably regen your config

they're in the Ogopogo config

also iirc ogo is 1 or 2 power ?

[tawdry oxide]

So Vermins and Ogopogos count as one?

aka when one is present so is the other? Or how does this work

Or what did you mean by that sentence

[soft raft]

they just share a config, and interact with eachother a lot

[tawdry oxide]

Aha, so if I have an Ogopogo on the moon, then the moon will spawn Vermins in Flooded weather, am I getting that right?

[vestal plume]

no they're completely independent to eachother most of the time

vermin will spawn near ogopogo if someone gets grabbed by ogo

but vermin can spawn in any moon regardless of if it that moon has an Ogopogo in it

as long as it's flooded, obviously

[tawdry oxide]

Are they completely independent of the general spawn weight mechanics in this case, or do I still need to add their weights to the moon's spawntable?

[vestal plume]

vermin take up power yes

however they spawn at like 9pm so

nothing's spawning at that point and flooded tends to have less outside spawns anyway

[tawdry oxide]

Alright then, thank you for the answers 👍

[vestal plume]

no prob!

[vestal plume]

this is me btw if you even care

[wide flax]

homunculus

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/chonky-cat-chonk-cats-cute-tickle-gif-22976826

rub it

[vestal plume]

kinda forgot that the current version on TS still has no changelogs for 0.1.3 and no mention of the dev scraps

should I just push a quick readme update or smth lmao

[supple bough]

nothing wrong with that

the worst part about readme updates is that thunderstore makes you redownload the whole mod

[vestal plume]

yeh I should do that

[latent fog]

It also makes you change to a new version number also even for just readme changes

[crude turret]

It's be really funny if Vermin could spawn in Mineshaft water sections.

https://tenor.com/view/fry-about-it-cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-cry-about-it-meme-gif-fry-gif-25394529

[void onyx]

how would they even end up there

[crude turret]

The Aloe put them there

[crude turret]

^ Me going into the vermin infested water in the mineshaft clueless

[void onyx]

did they like slip through a crack in a water stream and travelled all the wau to the caves

[ember cove]

If I want these enemies to spawn on modded moons, do I just change the rarity to include Modded: (number)?

[vestal plume]

they did lmao

[crude turret]

"did" implies they no longer do

I know the Ogo did

Thank god it doesn't any more.

[vestal plume]

ye removed in 0.1.3. due to us fixing them spawning in interiors entirely

[crude turret]

so uhh.
How about a config?

[vestal plume]

problem is they don't really spawn in the water, they spawn under the ground

which is the main reason why we removed it outright instead of implementing a config

[crude turret]

OH yeah sorry I rember now. No good.

[vestal plume]

ground that is under the water

[void onyx]

can we eat vermin

vermin kebab 😋

[crude turret]

bro is literally Laios

can't stop thinking about cooking a feast out of Bio's poor creatures

[void onyx]

stir fried vermin with the nubs of a prototax sliced and like

herbs or smth and like

a flower snake that's been filleted

[void onyx]

sorry I will stop my hunger

[crude turret]

Deep fried in molten soldier wax

With a side of pickles

[void onyx]

that's just disgusting

[rare reef]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-entering-meme-gif-23044896

[ebon dome]

what the dog doin up there

[vestal plume]

whar

[austere sail]

i gotta get a closer look, going up bois

[ebon dome]

it stuck above the fan on the main entrance

i think it was holding a body?

the aloe

[tropic ingot]

What's updog

[velvet patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looks-up-gullible-cat-cat-slowly-looking-up-apparently-it-says-gullible-on-the-ceiling-gif-24463156

[void onyx]

can I be friends with the wax soldier if I give him wax

[vestal plume]

that's like asking if you can make friends with other people by gifting them human skin

[sacred delta]

The answer is give it a try and see what the police think

[vestal plume]

chat rate the new profile

fire or nah

[soft raft]

average monty pfp

so... not sure tbh

[vestal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/french-you-are-probably-probably-luke-street-fighter-gif-26426237

[soft raft]

its not like i insulted ur lineage :<

[inland cloak]

its worse, shes british

[soft raft]

hell naw

[inland cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/british-dune-gif-24757881

[vestal plume]

LMAO since when is being french a bad thing smh....

I have a french friend who would like to have a word with you ms xiaolan........

[soft raft]

you ever been on the internet? 😭

[vestal plume]

no, wazzat

[whole parcel]

I HATE french people 😡

[vestal plume]

NO WAY

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-goku-astro-lightning-ssj-goku-gif-23522484

ill never forgive the french

[soft raft]

would if i could

[inland cloak]

as a french canadian person, its bad

but being british is worse

[crude turret]

As a german british person being french canadian is actuallt worse.

Do not trust the seamine creature

That would be insanity

[velvet patrol]

Was rly bored today so I spent it making little icons for some biodiversity enemies similar to the icons made for my skin mod. Not really gonna use these or anything, they're just for fun :)

[vestal plume]

As a spanish-speaking 4th generation french-italian from Argentina you are all way worse than me

[vestal plume]

GAH!!!!!!! I LOVE THESE DUDES

IS THAT AMONG DAGGER.......

[velvet patrol]

ඞ

[vestal plume]

well who's to say I won't

[frozen mist]

@soft raft Just realized I posted this earlier this month when I got navmesh spam on Adamance

lol

[soft raft]

wouldnt be surfaced

surfaced doesnt mess with how enemies etc are spawned

[frozen mist]

Yeah so probably the leaf boys

[soft raft]

maybe

i was thinking vermin if u still had those enabled at that time, idk how they look like in unity but if they have an agent it would probaby break

[frozen mist]

Could Scopophobia also maybe cause it?

Vermin I have disabled

[soft raft]

doubt scopothing would cause it

[frozen mist]

They might have been on there though

Leaf boys could make sense though, since monty earlier said they move around weird for clients

[soft raft]

that's just their unity setup being garbage, wouldnt be a navmesh thing

well, they might just be so small that it would ALSO be that

but the weird movement is just incorrectly setting it up

[frozen mist]

true

[frozen mist]

Do you think RandomEnemiesSize could cause it? Since it resizes enemies

[soft raft]

depends if wexop touches teh navmesh agent, but there's probably a chance yeah

[frozen mist]

It might for the bees possibly, cus I know the host only version of the mod has those blacklisted

@kindred current Do you know if it might cause navmesh errors?

[vestal plume]

would need to be flooded for them to spam

(I assume)

[vestal plume]

they're perfectly sync'd they just lag a bit

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/iJe1vWCd1nzlG6g-d/1UFjBJX6uFdQ?invite=cr-MSxuNlEsMjYyMzg4OTQxLA

this is what happens, only happened for me (client)

[vestal plume]

damn so mean to testy 😔

[frozen mist]

Xu likes to shit talk Testy every opportunity she gets wdym?

lol

They shit talk each other frequently

[vestal plume]

testy is a pure soul who can do no harm,,,

[soft raft]

I've never shit talked testy wut

And have some shame

Biodiversity is a team effort

[frozen mist]

I mean you do it jokingly lol

[soft raft]

Putting one person down is not the way monty

Put everyone down next time

[frozen mist]

I probably worded it wrong lol

[vestal plume]

also the ducks look better now since they have post-processing applied woo

old vs new

[frozen mist]

Seems like YesFox and NestFix reference navmesh stuff, wonder if those could maybe cause issues

YesFox's is very simple though

So I doubt YesFox

Especially since I didn't have it in that log from this thread

[undone sand]

whats the size of vermin

maybe in a comparison to a vanilla monster

[vestal plume]

uuuuh

three circuit bees long

[undone sand]

as in when there in there nest?

that was prob like the worst possible example 😭

[vestal plume]

no like the size of the actual bee

like three singular circuit bees

[undone sand]

oh wait waht

thats really tiny then

[vestal plume]

yeah they're little worms lol

[undone sand]

bet then they should work really well on my next moon

[vestal plume]

nicee

[undone sand]

and interior

[stoic vortex]

Since they stepped on the Argentine flag for losing the World Cup.

[vestal plume]

quemenlos a todos

[kindred current]

Hm i only change nav mesh agent speed for bees, i can take a look if needed

[frozen mist]

Yeah it wouldn't hurt lol

I've just disabled bees from being affected for now to see if the issue goes away

@soft raft Surprisingly The Locker has quite a few references to Navmeshes

It's an interior enemy so idk why tbh

[rare reef]

BTW

Was using control company earlier

noticed that the model has been implimented for wax

[frozen mist]

Wax Soldier shouldn't spawn but it can for whatever reason rn

@vestal plume you still fixing that soon?

[rare reef]

no i was using control comp

[daring jewel]

it spawned for me so much