Lethal Elements

[jolly panther]

JLL error whenever "Blue" is installed which will also make LEB crash :

JLL will not throw errors without Blue

Yes that is one of the errors i found and thats why i thought that TypeLoadExceptionFixer was required
But it only crash when Blue is installed which is pretty much a certified wtf moment

[karmic ridge]

i should clarify that i have no idea what i am doing and this stuff means absolutely nothing to me without being heavily dumbed down

https://tenor.com/view/manul-gif-20905492

[jolly panther]

There is definitely something going on in Blue but that may be JLL's fault, i cant say

[summer mist]

People not handling soft dependencies very carefully are getting kinda screwed from what I can tell

[jolly panther]

That is exactly the sources of all problems yes

[karmic ridge]

how so?

[summer mist]

Imagine referencing LLL in code because you have the reference to it in your project
Now imagine LLL doesnt exist but that code is read when your code is opened
Code breaks due to not finding what you're accessing

[karmic ridge]

ah

[summer mist]

Became more of a problem in the latest unity version due to some stuff internally or whatever but if handled right seems like my soft dependencies stayed fine

[karmic ridge]

i uh. didnt write any of the code blue uses, it just uses jll and WR so im not really sure if i need to do something on my end or if its on theirs

[summer mist]

Would be theirs

[karmic ridge]

alr alr

[jolly panther]

same for my mods

[summer mist]

If stuff is missing in editor unity just doesn't gaf

[jolly panther]

Yep as i said it's probably JLL's fault

[summer mist]

Probs

[jolly panther]

So it's JLL that needs TypeLoadExceptionFixer i think

[fathom mountain]

Is this where we throw blue stones at Jacob?

[potent seal]

i can't look rn but i will at some point later. I thought i had soft dependencies handled correctly but clearly i messed up somewhere and will need to find it.

[jolly panther]

Thats not because of what you made but because of the new Unity version im pretty sure, soft dependencies needs to be managed differently

or install TypeLoadExceptionFixer

[potent seal]

how so?

[jolly panther]

I honestly don't know for certain as I never had this issue myself unfortunately, I manage all my soft dependencies in separate static functions and call them only when the mod is loaded and when i need it
Idk if it can be fixed differently

Hamunii may help you tho

[potent seal]

JLL basically is that, i think i do one other thing in simple commands that was a little different but you said the issue affected both?

[jolly panther]

Yeah the issue affects both but maybe it's coming from different places idk

If you already have your soft deps managed like that then i have no idea what to tell you, lets hope Hamunii will find a solution

[potent seal]

JLL is like that. iirc the one difference for simple commands is i have command objects that get created only when mod they interact with is present basically instead of static method calls to a compatibility class. which worked fine before. JLL should be all compatibility class calls when mod is present unless i got lazy somewhere and messed something up.

[green sleet]

-# Not up to anything, don't mind me

[lime acorn]

careful. dont want people fully expecting you to bridge every outdated mod

[green sleet]

It is too late

[dapper glen]

paco's like the overachieving worker

even more work and paid the same through it all

to be real though

thanks for picking this up

still not sure what happened with v0xx for him to disappear entirely

[scarlet mango]

I’ve never needed it, but I’ve only tested single player and I don’t think I’ve tested every weather.

Always intended to do a pack with friends but for various reasons it’s never happened so my experience is limited to single player tests

[fallow ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/cobson-soyjak-smoking-scary-dark-soy-gif-11486172598633092358

you're so goated paco

[fallow ginkgo]

probably real life stuff

it's sad that he's not here he was so nice and chill 😔

[dapper glen]

He really was

Voxx come home we really miss you

[oblique kayak]

In the case of simple commands, it's unity's input manager throwing. To my understanding, TypeLoadExceptionFixer is the only simple fix for that (it's also what it initially was made for), with the alternative being not referencing Unity's input system assembly in your other assembly which would have you soft deps. See the decompilation of the input manager code in the stack trace for more info.

[oblique kayak]

And here, JLL and LethalElements don't try catch their own Assembly.GetTypes which throws because of their own soft deps (this one is a simple fix)

smh my head there even used to be a time when you wanted me to become a moderator, but I declined.

Anyways "drama stuff" makes it sound much worse, I just shared my (apparently very controversial) opinion on a topic. I wonder if I should write a doc at this point on why my opinion is actually valid because docs seem to be in rn

[cold dragon]

please don't

i get your perspective

i get what you're saying

please don't dig a deeper hole 😭

[oblique kayak]

lmao fair enough

but yeah guys see, morv agrees that my opinion is valid

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[cold dragon]

don't bring me into this more than I've plunged myself 😅

[oblique kayak]

was it really that bad 💀

[cold dragon]

yes

more than you think

I get that what you were trying to say was that morality is not equal to law and we can't judge one of them looking through the lens of another

but holy hell that was not the topic to say that 😂 💀

[oblique kayak]

it was exactly the topic for that wdym 💀

[wicked spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-fluffy-stare-awkward-gif-27184320

[jolly panther]

What opinion? 💀 What subject 🧐 🗿

[oblique kayak]

I can dm you if you want to know

[jolly panther]

Well then
@potent seal here is for you
@sniper1.1 can you add the try catch mentioned in your fix mod?

@scarlet mango why the ping didn't work

[oblique kayak]

oh also btw this is what jacob would need to do to make GetTypes not explode

Type[] types = null!;
try
{
    types = Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetTypes();
}
catch (ReflectionTypeLoadException ex)
{
    types = [.. ex.Types.Where(type => type is not null)!];
}

[jolly panther]

If it's really a problem with what happened in the past or something a bit private that other people shouldn't know then there is no need
I was just so certain that you were a mod in the past and idk why, maybe I'm confused and I mixed up you and Robyn or atomic idk
If it's just a simple thing not really private then yeah I kinda want to know just to relax my brain because this mean that I'm no too crazy after all

[jolly panther]

Yeah but what about simple commands?

[oblique kayak]

I've been in this community for a long time so I can see why I could be confused for a mod, but yeah also about the other thing, it's not anything private really

[jolly panther]

Ah ok

[oblique kayak]

the solution for simple commands is going to be a bit awkward so honestly TypeLoadExceptionFixer is the most sane solution, but basically Simple Commands would need to ship 2 BepInEx plugins in separate assemblies.

The soft dependency handler plugin assembly would be referenced by the Simple Commands main plugin assembly, and the soft depenency handler plugin would just act as a wrapper whose only purpose is not to reference Unity's input system assembly I think.

the soft dep handler plugin assembly will probably not need netcode patching and no Assembly.GetTypes call for itself

[jolly panther]

Oh 💀

[karmic ridge]

My bad gang I don’t read

[jolly panther]

With all these recent issues with GetTypes and stuff I'm just really happy that this mod does not crash PremiumScraps anymore oh boy oh boy

[proven mason]

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-go-away-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-4877675

[karmic ridge]

Hawk tuah

[jolly panther]

https://tenor.com/view/guardian-elden-ring-nightreign-you-are-welcome-youre-welcome-gif-1649927499224729529

[scarlet mango]

I don’t really remember what my mod does but iirc it patches one or two specific functions, replacing them with identical copies because all voxx had to do was recompile since he called a vanilla function that had its signature changed.

I’d have to look at LEB’s code again to even figure out where I’d need to try to patch for that. It may be simple, but I’ve been pretty busy with college and stuff.

[jolly panther]

yeah dw

it should be pretty easy to find tho it's the netcode patch

[brittle rain]

The purge is again

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/update-delayed-lebron-block-update-block-lebron-lebron-james-block-update-releasing-3-2-1-gif-1010810542145176969

[sick ridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/pacoito/LethalElementsTheta/ Cream chat, cream!!!!!

[green sleet]

Lebron James reportedly allowed the LEBeta fork to be uploaded

[summer mist]

Thank you for reviving the mod lunxara

[fast cliff]

Holy moly

[fast cliff]

Does this remove the requirement for that fix mod for toxic smog

[torn arrow]

Thank you for reviving the mod lunxara

[green sleet]

Ye

Toxic Smog just needed a recompile in general

[fast cliff]

Oh yeah i missed the changelog, my bad

[green sleet]

[sick ridge]

Lmao, I guess I kinda did? I asked pacoito a while ago about making the fork way back when v72 broke a decent part of the mod and the enemy Blacklist stopped working but Sniper's patch held people off til v73 made it more necessary to be updated and forked

[summer mist]

Like I said, all credits to you for reviving it

[sick ridge]

Nah credits def go to pacoito he did all the hard work and coding and optimizations I only asked him about doing it

XD

[proven mason]

@green sleet I love you

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[jolly panther]

What about the GetTypes exception Fixer?

And can you tell me if the GUID was changed?

[green sleet]

GUID's the same, GetTypes() is no longer being called at all

[jolly panther]

Both great news, thanks for having done a perfect job

[summer mist]

what would we do without lunxara and whoever that guy is

[green sleet]

Lmao

[green sleet]

Oh wait I have spread misinformation 😔

I got rid of GetTypes() for netcode patching

It shouldn't error out though, it do be in a try/catch

The other one wasn't

[fast cliff]

was there by some chance a bug related to footprints that you fixed? i just did some testing for some stuff but i forgot to check and i got off my pc now 😭

[green sleet]

Oh was there an issue with footprints?

[fast cliff]

it was as if it was trying to emulate a trail but it just looked like you were dragging your feet across the floor with perfect pixel footprints lol and i thought it was related to lethal elements beta for a long, long time

errrr ill just go check

it isnt lethal elements 👍

[jolly panther]

it should be fine

[violet zealot]

We’re so back

[jolly panther]

I tested the fork in my pack that had problems without TypeLoadExcepetionFixer and I can confirm it work just fine now, no need of any other external mods

@wicked spindle lmao back again to pin this #1268919667347427390 message

[scarlet mango]

Yippee! I’m free!

Should I do anything with my fix? Like deprecate and maybe put in the README to use this instead? Just so people know if they aren’t following along here

[summer mist]

deprecate, get rid of any dlls or assetbundles in your thing, and depend on lethalelementstheta

[pallid laurel]

What a time to be alive

[scarlet mango]

Yeah but I feel like SOMEONE isn’t going to figure out that they have both beta and theta that way (if they’ve been previously using it).

Beta + my patch still works technically (though there’s the one exception Zigzag somehow had) so I’m hesitant to pull out my dll and break it for people still using it and beta fine

[summer mist]

icic

fair enuff

[fallow ginkgo]

or just. deprecate

[fallow ginkgo]

yea it wouldn't make sense

lobotomizing mods is also just an annoying practice lmao

[summer mist]

tbf if theta overrides beta's loading i dont think its a problem

same idea of LLLUpdated overriding LLL

[jolly panther]

thanks ato

[graceful plaza]

Wait did you fix all the bugs the original lethal elements had?

[long shell]

What happened to Lethal Elements gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta and eta?

[brittle rain]

died

shot

dead at 30

[long shell]

[scarlet mango]

I think I've updated the README and deprecated it now.

rip LEBWeatherFix 🫡

[brittle rain]

great while it lasted

they all died

[green sleet]

Not all, but a few

There's probably still some bugs I am unaware of

[brittle rain]

hey

is it just me or does the snow look darker now?

with paco fork?

[wicked spindle]

Snow is black

[torn arrow]

[brittle rain]

:c

when you shine a light it looks really white, but without it just looks dark grey

[green sleet]

Hmm weird

[brittle rain]

gonna try another moon, maybe the ones i've tried arent the best

[green sleet]

I didn't change the assets themselves, it do be the same bundle still

(I can't modify shader stuff without the original files, I'd have to recreate it or somethin)

[summer mist]

this looks pretty shit,
cool easter egg though paco

[green sleet]

look inside

[brittle rain]

yeah its pretty weird

it didnt use to look like this

[sick ridge]

Weird lol

[brittle rain]

yeah wtf is happening

[sick ridge]

@green sleet What did you do wrong goober?

[brittle rain]

this is not blizzard

is bluezzard

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[sick ridge]

I can only guess the stuff you added for recolong the snow is causing it, did you accidentally override the default values?

[violet zealot]

Soot

[green sleet]

I did not add a thing to recolor snow

It was already there

[sick ridge]

O

Well I’m sure you’ll figure out where you became fish lol

Still funny

[green sleet]

[brittle rain]

it looks so weird :c

[pallid laurel]

Oh yeah, i experienced odd lighting when there was transparent snow? One of the config settings does it though the "enhanced weather graphics settings" are usually all off by default

I figured it was because of my potato laptop, but this looks like the same spheel

[brittle rain]

paquito paquito

seems like its not a fork issue

og its looking the same

at least in v73

[torn arrow]

Whar

[green sleet]

Thonk

[torn arrow]

Corruption is consuming thy lands

[green sleet]

Do any of the other weathers look weird?

[brittle rain]

im trying to open it in v72 but i have no idea what i need to downgrade

[brittle rain]

not really

i mean

both snowfall and blizzard look weird

[green sleet]

Ye

[brittle rain]

heatwave looked the same

[green sleet]

Other than the snowy ones I meant

[brittle rain]

same with solarflare

[sick ridge]

The mod might be referencing HDRP and it might need to reference the new version

tbh

[green sleet]

It be included in here

Other than that it could be the bundle/shader graphs that need updatin

Which I can't really rebuild

[sick ridge]

AssetRipper got updated I believe

you might be able to

[green sleet]

No as in

Shader graphs can't really be decompiled

That's why water shader gets fucked when ripped

Or bee particles

[summer mist]

it'd be

a pretty cool easter egg if you tried anyway

[green sleet]

💀

[pallid laurel]

Did u try messing w the config?

It was either Use Opaque Snow Material or Snow Casts Shadows (but i think the latter was just for snowfall particles themselves)

P sure it was the Opaque setting

[brittle rain]

confirmed

v72 looks great

something happened in v73

😔

[pallid laurel]

Yeaaah it looked nice when i had darker mornings or day colors

But during mid day or bright light it looked really strange

[brittle rain]

unless one of the performance mods changes how it looks, but i dont think so

[sick ridge]

Hmmmm, ig it's time you became magic and remake the shader

XD

idk

[green sleet]

Tried with a profile that only had LE, it ain't a mod conflict

[green sleet]

[pallid laurel]

Ill test some stuff since im still using v72 for everything

[brittle rain]

nah i mean, maybe a performance mod is fixing it

smth like lethalsponge texture

[green sleet]

Oh I dunno

Doubt it though

[brittle rain]

ye

:c

how hard is to remake a shader? 😔

[green sleet]

Depends on complexity of the shader

[hexed sinew]

so is it a issue with the fork or something else

[brittle rain]

with v73

[pallid laurel]

I feel like the dark snow was an issue i had before v73, checking on that

[brittle rain]

i do feel like i saw it kinda dark before too, but it was a weird thing that only happened once or smth like that

this is 100%

[pallid laurel]

Yeah same. I KNOW i had dark snow before because i remember thinking "oh its kinda oily sheen-y and thats neat but odd" and it was infact Opaque settings, wrote it down in my notes to avoid that setting for later

But now its on and ..??

All the graphics options are on here just to test and the dark snows gone. Still using old LE, still V72

Atleast on my end, it was likely a performance mod causing an issue or incompatibility

On the same note, i didnt used to be able to see the Immersive Visor 3d object in 3rd person, but for whatever reason now i do

Idk if it was perhaps a camera mod, using a different resolution thing (the mod that broke how Blizzard/Snow collects which i replaced) or what

Tldr, using old stuff before the v73 update w all snow graphics on - just fine

[brittle rain]

i dont have the graphics on in snow and it still looks fine in v72

[pallid laurel]

Oh yeah i assumed, i just remembered that a similar look happened when i did mess w the graphics

Thought perhaps the update turned something on by default? But nope

[brittle rain]

Sorry messed up

Hehe

[pallid laurel]

Nw nw

[brittle rain]

Maybe we have to turn something on? We could try that

[pallid laurel]

Ill try with only the base mod and its requirements

Yeah shoot

Started w a fresh config, only the requirements, then checked off all the snowfall graphics options

Totally fine

So in my case it was likely something being incompatible that i since got rid off.

Worked w and without all my "test" mods on

[summer mist]

me and v0xx had to do a lot of roundabout work to make our shaders work in code, there was alot of recreating gameobjects and whatnot

unless you reverse engineer his genius, you'll have to probably need him to figure this out

keeping in mind that our shader stuff did not work because there was some bugs in the hdrp or shader code on unity's end so we had to do our roundabouts

[brittle rain]

Gg

Its joever

[green sleet]

I could look into undoing some of these to see if they're fixed in latest HDRP

I know where a couple of them are

[summer mist]

that might do it, i've had the same black shader problems before on my laptop when i build the bundles there, im not sure why it would be caused if you hadnt changed the bundles tbh but my guess is looking into v0xx recreating his gameobjects/prefabs with shader stuff

(building vfx and shaders on my laptop causes them to crash ingame and look black lol)

[green sleet]

Thonk

Weird lol

[pallid laurel]

Trying most of the combos n settings i can think of but i cant reproduce the dark snow on v72 somehow

Gamer dimentia strikes again

[brittle rain]

Hehe

Now try it on v73

And cry

[pallid laurel]

Nah

Ill cry later lol

Imagine Barney Calhoun juggling semi-trucks while looking at snow and saying "Gamer dimentia"

Thats where ive been at the last couple hours

I say Barney cuz im a security guard but all i do when shits not exploding is mess w LC

And get paid for it 👉 👉

[brittle rain]

Waaaaaaa

Amazing

[fierce brook]

LethalElementsTheta updated this mod to v73 and I gave it a shoot, idk if this is the apropriate thread but I'd like to suggest 2 things, first being compatibility between Science Bird Tweaks fade out sun option (it looks like a black hole lol) and maybe some slider to reduce the solar flare size? Second the heatwave change on FOV makes the helmet kinda buggy

[brittle rain]

And snow...

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[green sleet]

Makes the helmet buggy how?

Thonk

Or in what way

[green sleet]

But also you can tweak Solar Flare visuals and disable the Heatwave camera effect in the config

[brittle rain]

Solar flare visuals

Wa

:0

[green sleet]

Or uhhhh

At least the aurora

[brittle rain]

Who in their right mind would disable the aurora wtf

death penalty

[fierce brook]

being obstructed by something invisible

[fierce brook]

I like the camera getting worse the longer someone spends outside

[fierce brook]

If it was possible i'd make the aurora some event like the meteor shower, it's peak

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[brittle rain]

I would make it permanent

Like, go into zeekers house and hijack the code JUST to add it everywhere

[brittle rain]

Thats heatwave, not solar flare :3

Heatwave + blizzard

[fierce brook]

how do i tweak the solar flare visuals? (not the aurora one)

[brittle rain]

You can only tweak aurora it seems

What do you wanna tweak

[fierce brook]

the size of the solar flare

or making it less notable

[brittle rain]

Is it too tiny??

[fierce brook]

too big

[brittle rain]

I love the solar flare thingy

[brittle rain]

WHAT

I sometimes struggle even seeing it

[fierce brook]

uh, i playtested on March and it was big

[brittle rain]

Massive

I needs screenshot

Ss or fake!!

[fierce brook]

ok let me get it

hmmm, it's not as big as it was the first time seeing it, maybe it was the Strong version?

[brittle rain]

Oh maybe!!!

If it is that i will scream

[fierce brook]

is there a way to remove the strong version = )

[brittle rain]

Killing someone

I wont say who

[green sleet]

I could add that

I gotta list the stuff it'd disable but ye

Facility doors opening and closing only happen on the higher intensity levels for instance

[brittle rain]

Paco paco paco!!!!

Omg i love you paco tysm for reviving the mod

[fierce brook]

it's okay, i didn't like that too

[brittle rain]

I just wish snow could be fixed, its so sad :c

[fierce brook]

how could voxx lock this effects behind a weather

this is a crime

[brittle rain]

Is snowfall and blizzard buggy for you?

[fierce brook]

didn't notice

idk the intended behavior, it was increasing the snow and throwing some winds that damaged me

[brittle rain]

This

I guess it isnt as noticeable in a dark moon like dine or rend

[scarlet mango]

They spilled oil in the snow 😔

[fierce brook]

wtf 😂

why does Heatwave do this?

[torn arrow]

you're getting a heatstroke
wdym why does it do this?

it's the main gimmick of the weather

[fierce brook]

makes the facility lights blue

[torn arrow]

oh

don't worry about it

or worry? idk

[fierce brook]

I'm not worried, just sending on this thread to (possibly) get fixed

[hexed sinew]

When I tested I did not get that

Unsure if I’m doing something wrong. I used snowfall and walked around for a while with the new version pacoito released.

[fierce brook]

I'd really appreciate the SBT fade out sun compatibility... even through it's kinda cool

[sick ridge]

I thought the fade out thing being buggy was just in general

Also I imagine it doesn't work with most custom weathers

[torn arrow]

I think it happens when the sun is non-existent on the moon
it happens on empra for example

[brittle rain]

What moon?

[hexed sinew]

Aurelia’s

[brittle rain]

It gotta be a very bright snowy moon

[hexed sinew]

Auralis

[brittle rain]

If not its not really that noticeable

[brittle rain]

No idea

[hexed sinew]

What moon was it discovered on

[brittle rain]

Adamance

It looked kinda weird

So then i tried brighter moons

And yeah

[fierce brook]

hmmm, it's my first time testing these new weathers, didn't expect it to be so buggy

[fierce brook]

there could be a moon blacklist for that 🤔

[pallid laurel]

In vanilla, snowfall does not appear on external cameras or in G.I's ext. camera (set to x3 resolution)

Also for whatever reason General Improvements causes Snowfall to appear in space 0-o

Idk what that could be

[scarlet mango]

I mean, that seems like a general improvement to me. Space could benefit from some snow imo

[pallid laurel]

Wh-

[pallid laurel]

Yeah no.

Its not just in space, if at any point you have snowfall while using General Improvements, the snow stays forever until you restart

Space, a new moon, even after getting spaced

Wait.

Its not GI 0-O

I think its Open Body Cams

[green sleet]

Thonk

I could mayhaps double check the OBC compat

[pallid laurel]

Confirmed Open Body Cams

[green sleet]

Is there anything in log?

[pallid laurel]

Im not sure how to print that, but let me test it again with default configs.

I might have fucked something up or turned something on that caused an issue

I need to be online to see the load up

Atleast if youre talking about the command box thing that pops up on start

[green sleet]

Yeah

Log prints to a file though

It do be in your profile folder

[pallid laurel]

Huh, default configs also have it happen

Gotcha

[green sleet]

In r2modman there's an 'Open profile folder' (or something like that) button in the settings

Log's inside the BepInEx folder

[pallid laurel]

I use Gale, but its giving me Map Improvement errors 0-o

And like, 1 issue with something to do with Intro Tweaks

Sec

[summer mist]

Isn't intro tweaks like problematic to use as it skips some stuff it shouldnt

[pallid laurel]

Huh, nope. Disabling both did not fix anything with the snow sticking around

Whatever it is, its just G.I and Open Body Cams causing the issue

I tested it with only GI and OBC

Let me test it one more time with vanilla configs and no other mods involved

[pallid laurel]

Ive never had an issue

it could, but i hadn't noticed

[green sleet]

Yeah skipping Online/LAN selection screen is a bit gullible

Starting cutscene of the monitor booting up is fine to skip though iirc

[brittle rain]

Hey paco im sorry to bother you

Do you think snow will get fixed?

[green sleet]

It won't do it by itself

But yeah it's something with the shader + new HDRP version

I did look into it a bit but I've been focused on some other stuff

[summer mist]

To translate

Paco hates u cheese

That's basically all he said

To sum it up

[green sleet]

[green sleet]

If I up the snow's emission I can get the snow itself to be brighter and look similar, but it's still weird that with the same lighting values and stuff it produces very different snow between v72 and v73

[brittle rain]

Hehehe nah yeah but like, is it in the todo list? Is there a light at the end of the tunnel

Or are we doomed forever?

[brittle rain]

Yeah its really weird

[green sleet]

I know not

[green sleet]

[brittle rain]

What i have noticed is, snow looks really dark, unless pointed with a flashlight, that way it looks fine

And blizzard's fog is really weird, doesnt look like fog and its extremely blueish cyan

[hexed sinew]

I'm not getting any of these in my pack

[brittle rain]

Snow is really really noticeable, specially in bright moons

And blizzard is less noticeable, but in big moons its clearer

[pallid laurel]

General Improvements
Lethal Elements
Ship Windows
Open Body Cam

• does cause space snow

Its not intro tweaks

Removing ship windows (just the mod itself, not its tools) did not fix the issue.

Trying out some things, I forget easy so these are just notes

[brittle rain]

Hey green gb

Do you remember we talked about weather tweaks

[pallid laurel]

Only GI, OBC and Dev Tools still shows persistent snow

[brittle rain]

Combined weathers

[pallid laurel]

Yes

[brittle rain]

And that we wanted to have the option to create our own?

[pallid laurel]

Also yes

[brittle rain]

Combinations

Welp

Something might be near release hehe

[pallid laurel]

Uhoh

Ominous

[brittle rain]

👀

[pallid laurel]

I like that

[brittle rain]

I mean its not a secret

Its right there on mod showcases

[pallid laurel]

Oh duh

I saw this yesterday and forgot

God dammit

only
Gi and OBC and still getting the snow

I wonder if ship windows was somehow only fixing the snow in space and not the snow everywhere

If the snows back in the window after istg it wasnt there, the only explanation is i forgot to land first in that one instance.

-_- i must have because its still here

Alright so final verdict on that

(Vanilla Configs)
LethalElementsBeta 1.2.81
GeneralImprovments 1.4.13
Game v72

Blizzard snowfall persists

If u did indeed make OBC compatabile, it may be an issue with specifically the Blizzard effects and not the basic snow effects?

Or it could be that im a moron and didnt tell u i was purposely downgraded before the update. Cuz if you added that compat recently, thatd be why

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[brittle rain]

Uhm

Xd

[green sleet]

Why're you using 1.2.81

[brittle rain]

I think we might have a problem here

Paco does not control v72 version

Paco made the version for v73

Lethalelementstheta

[green sleet]

Solar Flare's networking is not updated for v73 in the Beta, so that'll error out

Some other stuff too, I forget exactly

[brittle rain]

Any bugs with previous version are not on paco's control, and there arent many ways of fixing it, try finding the config that saves it

[scarlet mango]

Dang, those flares are getting strong!

[green sleet]

[pallid laurel]

Ok first, i still only use v72 because im offline 0-o

Second i didnt post the errors thinking u were the og Beta Elements guy

N third, i was posting them here because this is indeed the Lethal Elements page.

I also said beta in the final part, if it were a specific issue with theta, id have said so, but also i cant use theta atm

If u made whats essentially a different mod here and its newer then yeah, that makes sense that OBC would be fine, but i never said thats what i was using >>;

[pallid laurel]

I could have stated clearer that i was using Beta.

[brittle rain]

Its fine

[pallid laurel]

And 4th, i actually just assumed u made GI

[brittle rain]

Just that there isnt much to do since og dev is not around anymore

Thats why paco made a newer version

[pallid laurel]

Ik dw

[brittle rain]

XD

[pallid laurel]

I dont remember who makes what n since i dont have Theta, i didnt notice the author name would have been the same

A specific role for v72 only would be nice

[brittle rain]

Wdym?

They do not have per version features since there is no easy way to revert back

So we stick to latest version

[pallid laurel]

I meant a discord role so I don't hafto keep saying it all the time ;-;

[brittle rain]

Thats why there arent any features like search for versions or things like that

Thing is, whenever zeekers updates the game again that role will have no purpose

[pallid laurel]

Its only the previous vers isnt it

Once it updates i wont have a choice

[brittle rain]

Yeah...

😔

[pallid laurel]

Its lookin bleak

Well, ig ill just hafto keep saying it until my packs finished and i can start trying to update to v73

[unreal sequoia]

I'm pretty sure this is not normal
I've not changed nothing in the config

[fallow ginkgo]

what's going on? I can't really tell

[unreal sequoia]

look at the stamina

[fallow ginkgo]

WHATTT LMAO

holy fuck 😭

was that heatwave?

[unreal sequoia]

yup

[brittle rain]

XDDDDD

Stamina is running from you

[reef blaze]

"Sprint Bar That Carries You A Disproportionately Small Distance"

[green sleet]

💀

I mighta fucked up the Heatwave transpiler

I'll double check lmao

[green sleet]

I cannot get this to occur

Might be some mod incompat

If you send a modpack code I can take a look

[unreal sequoia]

Were you playing alone or mp?

It seems that it only ocurs when there is more than one player in the lobby

[green sleet]

Oh I was just doing testing with one client

I see

[unreal sequoia]

Cuz I tested today early alone and I couldn't recreate it.
But a friend told me that he was playing with some of his friends and it happened

So this is my guess

[green sleet]

Oh I did goof something actually

Yeah it's probably that

[unreal sequoia]

I see

Can it be fixed?

[green sleet]

Ye

[empty pivot]

Whats the difference between Theta and Beta? I havent had issues on v73 with beta, and it says it fixes issues but what issues?

[scarlet mango]

Beta’s no longer maintained for one thing. Dev’s gone. Theta is a maintained fork. One thing it fixed was the toxic smog not spawning, but I’d made LEBWeatherFix for that before. I think the other issues were mainly small ones but I can’t remember.

[green sleet]

Solar Flare networking

[sick ridge]

I hope you figure out fixing the Snow Shader

I need the Snow Weathers back for when December rolls around

lol

[empty pivot]

aw is snow broken?

[green sleet]

I am attempting to do this very thing

[sick ridge]

Snow shader is fucked on v73 ye, pacoito has been trying to fix it

[sick ridge]

Ye just hoping you manage to figure it out

[empty pivot]

cuz if so ill wait to change to it cuz snows like the main reason I have LethalElements lmao, its my favorite

[green sleet]

It's also broken on Beta

[sick ridge]

Nah it's broken on Beta too

It's a v73 thing

[green sleet]

Ye

HDRP update

[empty pivot]

oh wait really? I never noticed it

strange

[green sleet]

Or uhh, not broken

Snow just looks rather dark

[sick ridge]

It's more an incompat with the new HDRP

lol

Since it targets the old version rn

[empty pivot]

Do these use seperate configs from the old one?

[sick ridge]

I don't think so

[green sleet]

It's the same

[scarlet mango]

I think it broke a water shader on one of Beanie’s moons too. “The Darkening” update.

I’ve not actually checked my moons yet. I’m sure they’re fine

[empty pivot]

Its too bad Zeekerss has said he has never checked out any mods for lethal, I think he'd love LethalElements since it is probably the most vanilla-feeling mod

[green sleet]

A change (or several) in here is the source of our shader woes: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/[email protected]/changelog/CHANGELOG.html

v72 was in 14.0.8, v73 got updated to 14.0.12 (which was a security update, so there was no changelog)

[fast cliff]

I have tried to hard to force the decal draw distance up and a whole lot of my time and effort includes this... toxic... word... hdrp... why was he roleplaying and in HD ?

[brittle rain]

Super glad you are looking into it paco

You are the goatest goat of all goats

[brittle rain]

For snowfall yeah 100% i usually forget snowfall is not vanilla

The way voxx did it is like

Idk makes no sense

[empty pivot]

It works in the gameplay super well

[pallid laurel]

So like -

Again. I had LethelElementsBeta, OpenBodyCams, GeneralImprovments and IntroTweaks.

Changed nothing? Totally fine. Re-input my saved config? Totally fine. Turn off "weather in camera" and still fine.

Literally what

Ffs this is the second time

The only thing different is just restarting the pc

I mean tbf i could believe my little laptop just acts weird after a while and causes unique errors after any sort of mild heat

But man

[tame lance]

i would recommend getting rid of introtweaks

it can break mods loading iirc

[sick ridge]

Yeah

Use LC FastStartup or the option in GI

[pallid laurel]

I like the other things it does too.

[sick ridge]

There's nothing else that Intro Tweaks does that other mods don't already do

[tame lance]

i mean if you enjoy it breaking mods loading then go ahead use it

just some good advice 😉

[pallid laurel]

..k

[sick ridge]

You want the menu buttons aligned? Use LethalFixes, you want to adjust the spacing and stuff? Use Emblem

[tame lance]

and yeah what lunx said lol

[sick ridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lunxara/Lunxaras_Menu_Theme/ There's a reason why I made this mod

[pallid laurel]

I mean the same exact issue happened with 20 loads in a row and at no point did i have IntroTweaks on but ok

[sick ridge]

That can happen, it's just IntroTweaks is recommended against due to it breaking LLL, SoundAPI, and a handful of other mods

[tame lance]

idk what issue you were even having i just saw you saying you had introtweaks lol

[sick ridge]

Something with the snow still happening in Orbit

[pallid laurel]

Yes

[tame lance]

oh right, i have no input on that sorry lol

[pallid laurel]

lol

[pallid laurel]

Ill check it out

I think an additional weather filter added by OpenBodyCams may have been the issue, despite deleting said config and starting fresh

But again the only thing different was a restart so ill chock that up to "whatever"

[pallid laurel]

I see that IntroTweaks skipping the Lan/Online option is the main issue, apparently its gullible to skip that but LC FastStartup has that on by default.

Is that safe as it does so differently? Or should i set that to none/disabled

[sick ridge]

iirc LC FastStartup's method is fine

[pallid laurel]

Aight neat

[fierce brook]

I've seen people say multiple times that IntroTweaks break other mods but I use it for a long time and never had it breaking a single one

[lime acorn]

currently dont have a log. also at work.
i noticed when landing on Narcotic (Wesley's Moons) during a Blizzard, my game's visuals keep flickering black; sometimes remaining black until i look a certain direction. HUD remains in tact

[brittle rain]

Are you using imperium?

[lime acorn]

never (unless im in dev mode (i wasnt))

[brittle rain]

Weird

I found that with imperium some weathers get buggy

And do something similar to what happens to you

Still, blizzard and snowfall have their shaders bugged so might be that? Idk

[dapper glen]

This has happened to me on snowfall solace as well

[lime acorn]

Blacklist Solace 📝

got it

[green sleet]

I know this can happen when there's a bunch of like light and shader effects goin on, I guess you could try tweaking some of the Snow/Blizzard effects in config, but I'm not too sure of what should be changed exactly

[sick ridge]

Solace is broken on v73 btw

It crashed when I tried to land on it

[fallow ginkgo]

I didn't crash and I landed on it a few times

I was just testing it a week ago cuz I was gonna add it to a pack

[sick ridge]

Hmmmm it crashed for me

[lime acorn]

probably from the acid warehouse

[sick ridge]

I fixed it crashing

Had to blacklist 2 story ship navmesh regening but the moon is so laggy

It be a little odd on V73

but good to see it working

[fallow ginkgo]

oh strange

Biggership didn't crash for me

ill be wary of the moon though, i'll see if I run into any issues while playing on it

[sick ridge]

We figured out what it is though no idea why since it wasn't a problem on v72, it's some obscure incompat with Starlancer's Moons, Navmesh Regen in the ship mods and Loadstone's AsyncNavmesh

But only on Starlancer's Moons

Lmao

[unborn jackal]

Hey guys does anyone know how to change the config for the fork by Pacoito? I think the cfg file doesn't exist in r2modman, and I had some custom values on the old mod that I wanted to reapply to the new one 😶

[brittle rain]

It does have a config

To generate a config you have to open a save at least once

[unborn jackal]

I already did, I've been testing on V73 for a while now and that's the only thing that's bugging me rn

Any key words to look for the file? Bc nothing shows up if I look for lethalelements or pacoito

Well actually I do get the cfg file for lethalelements but it's the old one, the v0xx one

Which is weird because I already disabled that one and I'm using the fork instead

[dapper glen]

It uses the voxx cfg

[unborn jackal]

Oh shit my bad then lol, thanks

[green sleet]

[fallow ginkgo]

does sponge somehow fix it>?

the snow looks great on Demonmae's silence moon

maybe its just cuz the moon is dark already

[brittle rain]

maybe its that

it also work fine on rend and dine

when you flash it it goes back to normal

[fast cliff]

what is dat......

[fallow ginkgo]

blizzardo

[brittle rain]

wait thats blizzard?

[fast cliff]

hm..... something missing.........lol

is that

silence?

ohhh yeah it is

based moon

the fog i always noticed was weird on that map, as you descend you can see the fog descend with you... idk if it was just me...

[sick ridge]

It’d be neat if it does, the downside is having to use the Sponge shader lol

[dapper glen]

sponge shader isnt bad dont be a hater

[brittle rain]

i like it!!!

makes a few moons look niiiice

[fallow ginkgo]

ye

[fallow ginkgo]

sponge shader is bad on moons w lots of detail

but w moons like silence, sterilis, estate etc it works super well

[green sleet]

I dislike how it crunches the road on Bozo

Though it'd be the same with the vanilla shader

Hence why it ain't TerraMeshed lmao

[brittle rain]

doesnt look like it

[scenic trellis]

Is there a way to disable the warnings for weathers like Solar Flare?

I mostly want this because I'm running another mod that warns about weathers already

[brittle rain]

Wdym?

You using sciencebird?

Solar flare warning tells you how strong the weather is

Its kinda important to know how crazy things will be

[scenic trellis]

Oh does it vary?

[brittle rain]

Yeah, read it

It says mild, strong, extreme i think

Depending on the level more or less things happen

Check on the read me

There it says what changes hehe

[scenic trellis]

I've only just recently been using the weathers so I've seen it like once lol

[brittle rain]

Hehe fair

[scenic trellis]

Wesley's stuff have become like a gateway drug for weather mods

We recently went to Release, and Bluefall happened

We eventually went blind, it was...something

[brittle rain]

Hehe

So glad prople are using weather tweaks and toolkit

They are peak, add so much more content to the game without adding like new things

[scenic trellis]

I'm thinking about looking into making/replacing weathers for BrutalCompany using that stuff too

Or talking to Soft about making it so if the combined weather mod is installed it replaces those vanilla events with combined weather variants of them instead

Because the vanilla Brutal has a Stormy, Rainy, Flooded event and a AllWeathers event already

[brittle rain]

Pretty sure soft is working on smth with it

[scenic trellis]

I haven't talked with him about it, but I wouldn't be surprised

I think all the vanilla weather events don't actually do the proper weather, or at least not all the actual feature of whatever weather

[brittle rain]

hey paco

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[brittle rain]

can i get a

thank you very much paco

[slender lintel]

Don't forget PF1MIL

[wet seal]

sponge shader as in the legacy one?

bc legit especially after later update I cant tell the differenace with the main one from vanilla

if thats what you are refering too

[sick ridge]

This was said before the new update came out that made it be 1:1 with Vanilla

lol

[wet seal]

I couldnt tell before much tbh

the differance from vanilla withe the non leg ver

[sick ridge]

I could, it always made shit too noisy before the update

pre-1.2.0 the Sponge shader was terrible

[wet seal]

legit never noticed

and even if I did the performance was lowkey worth it

tho best of both worlds now

[unreal sequoia]

it was not that bad, it had some issues in some areas, but not horrible lol

[wet seal]

the legacy one it first came with was horrible tho

the one from 1.0 I mean

was releaved when they updated it haha

[sick ridge]

It made the ground on a lot of moons super noisy

If you used RebalancedMoons and the shader together for example it would completely nuke the ground textures

[wet seal]

I already stopped using RebalancedMoons bc of the issues it has with resonance, tho I forgot on whos end it is

[sick ridge]

I ended up after a while disabling it cus I preferred the brightness of the Vanilla shader cus the Sponge shader also messed with Saturation

[sick ridge]

that's a SoundAPI problem, that same issue also happens on the Lunar Lights moons and prolly some others as well

This setting fixes it

[wet seal]

ive ONLY seen it on vanilla moons rebalanced and that option didnt fix it

[unreal sequoia]

not completely :,]

[sick ridge]

Well it was intended to fix it

SoundAPI has been pretty busted for ages

🙁

[unreal sequoia]

I may have something

[sick ridge]

I kinda gave up on using LR cus no matter how many sounds I disabled the game would still crash on exit as well which was weird since SoundAPI isn't supposed to load everything when stuff is disabled

[unreal sequoia]

oh, btw, did you checked my new future mod/Addon of LethalThings

[sick ridge]

I just get sick of my group complaining the game crashes, I do hope some solution for that can be found since apparently Bongo says Berotigm's mod is bad

[unreal sequoia]

welp, I've been using it since that Berotigm's mod released
Had 0 issues since

[wet seal]

thats force quit right?

[unreal sequoia]

yup

[sick ridge]

Yeah she mentioned something about it being bad cus it disables stuff that's meant to run when exiting the game so idk

[unreal sequoia]

Well, I don't know, as long as I don't see it doing anything bad to the game, I don't see any reason to remove it.

[sick ridge]

I did not

What you working on?

[wet seal]

ive seen worse arguements XD, one guy in another server insist a program I use is spyware, his evidence was "it well know in the community, suprised you wouldnt know", asked for proof or ever screenshots of others saying this and there was none, looked up what he was saying, nothing, when I sent stuff disproving it he said "ofc the company that made it will say its good", at least bongo has experiance to know that stuff

[unreal sequoia]

lol, dw

I know it's not the best way cuz bongo could have better arguments and experience, so I understand if people wont use it

[sick ridge]

Yeah

[wet seal]

I mainly use it until I start seeing issues

[sick ridge]

Bongo has at least worked with the game and engine and knows things in depth

[unreal sequoia]

me too

at first I thought the saving issues with DawnLib was caused by it

[wet seal]

yeah the guy I was arguing with was like "the program was made to trick and steal you data to help china"

it was a fucking android emulator 😭

[unreal sequoia]

I was about to uninstall it until I saw the post of that bug on that thread

[wet seal]

this is why I report as many bugs as I can to the github

[unreal sequoia]

you good, I did the same thing on their dc thread

Xu pinged it

[wet seal]

ik imma have to live with dawn weather I like it ot now(I actually like dawn but some minor things)

so might as well help iron it out

especially once lunar config switches

[charred mantle]

shouldn't the heatwave decrease in intensity as it becomes night?

[brittle rain]

That could be neat

[pallid laurel]

Oh for sure, duh thatd be awesome

I feel like a heatwave during a storm would be the worst feeling and kill you alot faster.

The body cant cool off from sweating and the heart overcompensates to keep up > leading to a stroke even faster.

Wet heat is super deadly.

Or atleast moreso than a storm or heat alone

[vernal gull]

generally that combo of weather wont happen just because its really really hard for it to rain at that high of a heat

but after the storm when its humid the wet bulb temp just skyrockets and thats usually when u see those headlines about elderly people dying from heatwaves

[pallid laurel]

Yuuup

That weather combo wouldn't make sense on anything other than a jungle really

[violet zealot]

The humble cooldown

[charred mantle]

strange

it was midnight and the heat haze was still going crazy for me

[green sleet]

I can double check the cooldown thing's working, Heatwave's a bit broken right now on multiplayer because I goofed a thing (unreasonable stamina draining)

I have not pushed update for I am still unable to fix snow looking dark

Gotta figure out a way to do it without rebuilding bundle, for I cannot rebuild bundle

[unreal sequoia]

:,]
If you give up, at least push the heatwave thingy

better being able to play 1 more weather normally

[green sleet]

Ye I just wanted to include more fixes in the update

[jolly panther]

Besides the darker snow I don't see any issues with the mod really

[fathom mountain]

I had a weird issue but it may have been some incompat

On Crowd (webley moon) during snow and blizzard there would be some jacked up missing textures on some of the sky elements, accompanied by blinding purple lights

Gotta look into it when I have some time

[static sparrow]

@small cypress installed the mod on a modpack and for some reason it just
wont register

like

i check imperium and i dont see the new weathers listed

they arent in weatherregistry either

nvm disabling wesley's weathers fixed this

gonna try and see if it still works once re-enabled

[green sleet]

Are you running the v73 version of LE?

[static sparrow]

yeah most recent

[green sleet]

How recent?

[static sparrow]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

idk lol

says im on v73 tho so yea

[green sleet]

Just making sure you're running this: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/pacoito/LethalElementsTheta

[static sparrow]

ooooh

no thank you

[green sleet]

Fixes the weather incompat with editor-only WeatherRegistry weathers

[fallow ginkgo]

This is because wesley has a specific type of skybox on his trial moons that completely fuck up transparent materials

this happens on descent

"physically based sky" I think it was?

im not too versed in this but yea

[torn arrow]

on the rest of the trial moons too

[fallow ginkgo]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G3pR4kFW8AA5yHK.gif

*grabs you with one hand and crushes you into a fine paste

game over... boykisser

[torn arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-doge-meme-dog-shiba-inu-shiba-gif-14403561217751308271

[proven mason]

YOU are the moon dev! Those pesky employees steal all your treasure. Cast judgement upon them with a button, bring peace to your land, and WE will let you out.

[brittle rain]

:3

https://tenor.com/view/31-minutos-maguito-no-se-nose-explosion-gif-5485902718347087662

[carmine ingot]

@green sleet Quick question about theta, would I need to redo weather registry/combined weather's configs if I swapped to theta? Or is it a seamless transition if I just install theta and uninstall beta?

[green sleet]

Should be seamless yeah

Weathers are still named the same, so their Registry config should work

And the config file still uses the same path

[carmine ingot]

Alright ty

[surreal prairie]

Any chance you got a list of Wesley Moons that I should blacklist from the snowy weather's?

Im not familiar with all his new moons yet.

[brittle rain]

I would say the ones where it doesnt fit

Asteroid for example

Tho tbh it depends on what you think is possible

[surreal prairie]

Im more concerned with ones that would break the snow weather over if it fits the theme first. Your point is good though and after I might go through and try to make them more accurate to the Moons.

[brittle rain]

None break

Afaik

A few work better or worse, but all of them should work

[surreal prairie]

Maybe I misunderstood it thought he was saying that some moons with different skyboxes messed with the snow. Maybe I misunderstood it.

[scarlet mango]

I think Wesley changed the skyboxes that were problematic so it shouldn’t still break that way. The darkening (the snow shader being darker than it should be) may still be a problem but I think that’s going to be regardless of the moon

[surreal prairie]

Gotcha cool. Ive been excited to try out this one again.

[brittle rain]

paco sorry to bother

can i ask

how blizzard looks?

i mean, were you able to fix blizzard too or just snowfall

[green sleet]

Prooobably fine

[brittle rain]

i hope 🙏

tysm either way paquito

im gonna cry

https://tenor.com/view/cat-run-cat-steal-cat-fish-cat-trex-cat-dinosaur-gif-16808680927725662878

[fiery siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618069985658404871/1434768711524552824/togif.gif

[green sleet]

I forgor I did test it earlier when testing the voxxDontFreezeMyWater tag, ye it be fixed as well

[fallow ginkgo]

oh is that how blizzard water freezing works? gotta add a tag for it to your moon?

[green sleet]

It is a new thing

Not out yet

But yeah you can add that tag or rename your water materials to not contain 'water' (so like 'watre' or something)

[summer mist]

what happens if i name my non water material to be water

like my terrian on oxyde

[simple fiber]

Is there any value in checking if the mat name contains water and is transparent?

[green sleet]

It gets searched for a trigger Collider that's enabled

Then added to the waterSurfaceObjects list for processing

[green sleet]

I guess water's not really always transparent

It do be how LE's handled it though, just checking for 'water' in the name of the first material on a renderer

[charred mantle]

did this update or something?

[summer mist]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/pacoito/LethalElementsTheta/ this would be the updated version

[fallow ginkgo]

the water on court isn't ye

[green sleet]

There's definitely a better way to find bodies of water to freeze, but ye

[brittle rain]

yippeee!!!!

paco i literally dont know what to say

[summer mist]

"i hate you" is a phrase thats popular

[brittle rain]

calling you a god is literally not enough

[summer mist]

channel your inner rage cheese

[brittle rain]

i love you too Xu

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-funny-reaction-meme-cat-kiss-gif-11351227363082477808

[summer mist]

spread hate not love 😔

[brittle rain]

i have my hater days

but after what paco did, not today

[spiral lion]

😮 😄

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-funny-reaction-meme-cat-kiss-gif-11351227363082477808

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

Update doth be pushed

[green sleet]

Heatwave be fixed too

[charred mantle]

awesum

thunderstore hasn't picked up on it yet i think but very cool pacoito

[brittle rain]

@wet seal

[brittle rain]

It takes 1-2 hours

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/update-delayed-lebron-block-update-block-lebron-lebron-james-block-update-releasing-3-2-1-gif-1010810542145176969

[unreal sequoia]

yay

finally

[wet seal]

I 🪚

[unreal sequoia]

thanks!

[fleet juniper]

i don't know whether this is a problem from wesleys weather or the snow, but the render pipeline is messed up when looking through snow that is covered with the red forsaken stuff or the wheat from the hallowed weather effect (vid was taken with the new preset blizzard + forsaken weather)

happens with opaque snow enabled, i'll test if it works if that setting is disabled

[brittle rain]

Looks so weird

[green sleet]

Oh I forgor to test with opaque snow

I probably don't need to do the volume change with that setting

[green sleet]

Yeah seems fine with regular snow

There be some light bleeding or somethin but there is a lot going on at the same time with those two weathers lol

Should also probably undo any other adjustments to snow graphics and set em to default, I did not test much with varying settings for those

[fleet juniper]

damn do you think it's worth fixing for opaque snow ? the problem with the other snow is that it doesn't get affected by any post processing at all sadly

[green sleet]

I mean ye it should be easy to fix, I assume it's due to the workaround I'm doing for regular snow

Though I'll probably wait a bit for some more issues to show up

[green sleet]

This does not appear to be the case

[fleet juniper]

thx for the update tho, i had actually had already been combining the weathers from wesleys and this mod and the black snow particles were pissing me off so much that i had just disabled them completely until you fixed it

[green sleet]

[charred mantle]

are you sure you fixed heatwave weather progression? i used imperium to skip around the day and the heathaze effect didnt seem to "cool down" as night came by

[green sleet]

I am sure I did not fix it

I forgor

Was mainly focused on snow stuff

[scarlet mango]

The Great Darkening has been banished! 🎉

[brittle rain]

My days are finished

[charred mantle]

plaese fix,,,,,

[brittle rain]

Yeah paco

Lifes depends on that not at all niche issue

greed

(Couldnt find the emoji)

[fleet juniper]

ooh i thought the fix for the "oily black snow" was meant for the snow particles when snow vfx lighting is enabled i completely misunderstood the changelog

[brittle rain]

No it was because the snow was completely black

[fleet juniper]

i didnt even notice that there were problems with the ground snow, maybe because of lethal sponge's custom shader idk

[brittle rain]

Nope lethal sponge didnt fix it

It was mostly noticeable on bright moons

On vanilla moons it was harder to notice

[fleet juniper]

the weird clipping with the ground stuff from wesleys weathers + this mods snow was already there before your last patch so i think it has nothing to do with the changes you made in your latest patch, i've definitely noticed weird stuff with how wesleys uses depth buffers for lighting etc. so i'll go out on a limb and say that it most likely has nothing to do with how the snow is programmed and more so with how wesley did the logic for the ground overlay (probably only supposed to apply to the ground and reads the snow as ground)

[green sleet]

It was this pretty much

[green sleet]

Opaque snow does look weird like that though, like around the tree there's some wacky artifacting or something, not sure why

I dunno about the snow particles themselves

[sick ridge]

the vfx shader is off by default and is likely just broken on v73 and can't be fixed with the same workaround

[smoky acorn]

the oily black snow, kind of reminds me of ashes falls from volcano eruption

[green sleet]

Can technically be done intentionally for like Oldred or Core lmao

There's the voxxSnowColor tag moon makers can use to change the color of snow

Though this one cannot be added through like LunarConfig, since it specifically uses the color field in ContentTags to color the snow

[crystal elm]

what kind of hellscape is that

why is there just someone hanging there

sanest employee

[green sleet]

Forsaken weather

[crystal elm]

[green sleet]

It be in here: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Wesleys_Weathers

[jolly panther]

Oh wait, this mod got updated?? 🥸 I didn't know that

How was the weather toolkit integration Paco?

(like, easy to do, annoying?)

At least black now is fixed now, perfect for December

[green sleet]

I added the compat but forgor to notify you

Lol

[torn arrow]

Is the snow washed now?

[green sleet]

The log of change holds such wisdom

[torn arrow]

Not enough intelligence into reading

[green sleet]

Snow be fixed

[torn arrow]

[green sleet]

It do be pretty straight-forward, I was kinda wondering how the level filter thing would work, but WeatherTweaks does only allow combined/progressing weathers to show up on moons where all weathers can spawn if you don't specify a filter

So ye

I did kinda rush it somewhat, the three combined weathers aren't really too special and I was mostly trying out the toolkit in general

[jolly panther]

Ah yeah i see what you mean

i think its good enough, the WT system is already pretty well configured

[jolly panther]

No problem! Let me know if you have any questions

[jolly panther]

🥸

i checked your json, and it looks perfect

hmmmmmm, so, in the code your still are registering with base WT if the toolkit is not installed ? Okk, why not
But then in terms of dependency management whats going to happen ?

[green sleet]

Oh I mean I kept the ones it already had as fallback if only WeatherTweaks is installed, but the toolkit do be needed for the new ones

They be soft dependencies so it's more of just bonus compatibility if you happen to have them installed

[jolly panther]

aah ok

[green sleet]

There's a lot of stuff on Bozoros like that for instance, very niche obscure compat stuff

[jolly panther]

i think i know what exactly lol

[green sleet]

Black Fog weather with Wesley's Ememy Variants installed is a fun combination there

[fleet juniper]

could be the ambient occlusion i applied to the depth buffer via reshade, though opaque snow works much better with post processing like the cel shader compared to the other visual snow option when using lethal sponges custom shader (which afaik zeekerss will add to the maingame in the next update)

[green sleet]

I had that artifacting happen just in general with the opaque snow

I do probably gotta disable the dynamic sky stuff when using it

[fleet juniper]

left is no AO, right is with AO (only opaque snow seems to work since it's in the same depth buffer that is used to apply all the post process stuff to, the other visual option for snow is in a completely different buffer which is why there's no post processing for it)

[summer mist]

Yeah it would've been nice if the colour was included in the name appended to the end or smthn

Cuz that's like technically an odd misuse of it or whatever lol

[green sleet]

It's rather niche lmao

Only use I've seen of the color in the ContentTags is to recolor snow and some other stuff in LE

But it feels unintended for that purpose lol

[summer mist]

Yea

Ig as an odd incompat you could check if it's an LLL tag or DL tag and check the name or colour lmao, but yeah probably won't be used nowadays tbh with v0xx gone (is that colour snow thing even used now?)

[green sleet]

I use it for Bozoros to recolor snow to fit with the road/snowy ground

Also to recolor Toxic Smog to be the same color as Spore Lizard smoke

Some lore there mayhaps

[jolly panther]

wait, wait wait, i think somethings not right

like, you are checking if my toolkit is installed, but to my knowledge LethalElements will load before the toolkit because you havent added it as a soft deps no ?

(and like, there is not really a reason to have it as a soft dep in the first place, but with your fallback system maybe you need it ?)

[green sleet]

It run here: https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_LethalElementsTheta/blob/main/VoxxWeatherPlugin/src/VoxxWeatherPlugin.cs#L90

Not exactly at plugin initialization

[jolly panther]

ah i didnt saw that

so forget what i said

[green sleet]

[jolly panther]

hey, oh, calmos pepitos

[green sleet]

I'm being pranked by John HDRP

I have no idea why I have Schrödinger's Volume over here, only activates properly when I observe it

I don't even toggle anything 💀

[jolly panther]

what 😂

John HDRP strikes again

[green sleet]

But yeah that's why snow looks a bit darker than it's supposed to I guess

It's not oily though, just dark

I have no idea why it's fixed by acknowledging its existence

Disabling/enabling the Volume through code doesn't do anything

Actually perplexed lmao

[crystal elm]

quantum volume

[green sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[jolly panther]

lmao

[smoky acorn]

i don't if i should put this here, but, the blizzard on narcotic, makes this effect on the screen, (Epilepsy warning just in case)

I was on Nocturnal frost , but it does that on Both blizzard and snowfall

[torn arrow]

oh so it's still happening...

[green sleet]

Yeah I added Narcotic, Extort, and Release to the Snowfall/Blizzard blacklist for that reason

You probably need to reset defaults in the WR config

Crowded and Descent are fine though

[green sleet]

It is now fixed

Oh wait delayed by Lebron

https://tenor.com/view/update-delayed-lebron-block-update-block-lebron-lebron-james-block-update-releasing-3-2-1-gif-1010810542145176969

[charred mantle]

thx paco

[fast cliff]

ever sinc ei first saw this here i keep thinking about it

[jolly pumice]

heatwave on berunah KILLS frames

that is until the sand goes down

[fast cliff]

Its known to heat up components

[wet seal]

you should see what happens with snowfall

on berunah

[jolly pumice]

ill pass

im sure its horrible

[wet seal]

buggy mess, had to add it to snow and blizzard's blacklist

bc the snow layers's collision breaks and everything gets stuck under a massive layer of shadow and blackness