#The Fiddler (enemy) / Violin (weapon/drop)

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shrewd bobcat
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Did you say not to send it in a blend file? I totally missed that, shit

opaque rampart
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1000th message greed

kindred cape
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1001th message πŸ˜€

shrewd bobcat
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1st message

ivory tendon
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1

shrewd bobcat
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2!

kindred cape
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3!! πŸ˜€

small surge
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4

opaque rampart
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Did you figure it out?

shrewd bobcat
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Yeah if I need to do shit differently just tell me and I'll fix it up so it's usable for you

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I didn't quite understand what you meant initially and didn't really get an explanation, mb

reef crypt
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Oh, sorry i wasn't able to even try it out, i got a job offer and i've been in flames

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lemme see if i can do something about it tomorrow

kindred cape
kindred cape
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Jokes aside, everything good?

carmine warren
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Dude relax

kindred cape
opaque rampart
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It was woke actually

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(But no that is a tad rude, "lemme see if tomorrow" isnt a promise exactly)

lone thicket
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Just to let you guys know, I am still hanging around. I just took a break to work on other projects while the model is being worked on

kindred cape
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I know that it wasn't a promise

reef crypt
reef crypt
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I am the scallywag 😞

kindred cape
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Oof

shrewd bobcat
# reef crypt I am the scallywag 😞

It's nbd! Whenever I come back from the holidays I'll do the required touchoups to the texturing and send it in so mr coder can have it- If you wanna make your own modifications in the future you can also do that, it's just better if you don't feel pressured to do it quickly :[]

tranquil briar
kindred cape
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Have at thee!

mint fjord
kindred cape
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Hello, being alive is hard.

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Oh.....huh, I was kinda worried I missed stuff.

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Things going good?

kindred cape
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I see

opaque rampart
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MFW yet another project falls apart

lone thicket
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I'm still around

kindred cape
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I think we just need to wake everyone up and get em back on track.......not that I want to split jacuj's attention again......

opaque rampart
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My part is mostly done

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If there isn't any progress soon I'll probably do the rest of the textures myself

kindred cape
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Yo @reef crypt, you alive?

shrewd bobcat
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the texturing is mostly done too, uber just wanted to make some touchups but they're not imperative to the completion of the enemy

opaque rampart
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Oh okay, well as long as we're not changing the UV then I can get things moving again

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Can you pass the blend file and textures to me?

shrewd bobcat
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should be up here

reef crypt
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barely alive but here

kindred cape
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Me too, got croup from my bro. Brain on fire.

opaque rampart
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Slight cleanup to the texture work + some detailing. Also normals

opaque rampart
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Strapped up

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Should this part be more... Blade like?

lone thicket
opaque rampart
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Im thinking right now it looks like the whole blade is covered in barnacles, which would make playing a string instrument kinda impossible

lone thicket
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Yeah. The blade looks kind of rounded as well in some spots

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I still need to get around to fixing the Unity project for v73. I've been putting it off because I've never run the asset ripper on an existing project before

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I have a backup of the project, so it's not much of an excuse

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In other news, the maneater currently runs away screaming and crying when the Fiddler gets within 20 or so meters of it. That's not intended, but it's kind of funny to see

opaque rampart
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I wonder how it should react

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Fear of loud noises or would it be comforted?

lone thicket
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Well, we could look at the loudness of other entities and player actions to determine where the Fiddler's music logically falls. I believe player movement has a loudness of 0.4 when walking and 0.6 when running, hitting something with a shovel is 0.8, and a thumper running into a wall is 0.75. I also wrote down that a clown horn has a loudness between 0.6 and 1.0 and the airhorn is 0.95-1.0

opaque rampart
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a violin is quite loud, so I guess it should scare them

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Though, the annoying part is it's gonna end up following it and causing it to cry before the player even reaches them

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probably, anyway

So maybe having it soothe the baby would be more interesting mechanically?

opaque rampart
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@woeful fractal You still up for this guy? Could work as a break from sponsorship

kindred cape
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Omg it's so good

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The thought of this getting better floors me

opaque rampart
opaque rampart
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I genuienly dont know how I do this

opaque rampart
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@lone thicket How exactly would I do the violin animations?
Should I have 5 distinct animations, one for each direction and an idle one, like the bracken?
Or one animation for the torso and 5 for the legs, and then combine them in unity? (I think this is something that can be done?)

kindred cape
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Basically match the blade arm's movement to the tempo of the given track and if it's a high note: move the bicep to the fiddler and the point outward, if it's a middle range chord or note keep the blade straight up or down, and if it's a low note do the reverse of the first thing. Also any vibrato should make the fingers vibrate while flat notes the hand should be still.

lone thicket
kindred cape
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Doesn't have to be exact but if you do roughly that it should look alright.

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Man it's come such a long way.

reef crypt
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itΒ΄s so natural that if it was any better it would look out of place in the animated jank of lc chgahoxjbajix

kindred cape
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I tell ya, guy's got some talent man. Jacuj and Monty rock.

cedar osprey
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wheres the link for the mod?

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if there is any

tranquil briar
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it's in development

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this is the ideas thread

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so most of this stuff is incomplete

opaque rampart
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Definitely putting too much effort into these, but whatever, at least I can say I know how to animate GuraShrug

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-# all that green was NOT there, discord did that

opaque rampart
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This one is still a bit rough, but I started wondering if its worth it to try and create one unique to each track? probably not...

kindred cape
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Beautiful

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I can't wait to see a test with the ai using the animations.

cedar osprey
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CINEMA MAN KEEP UP THE WORK

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JUST CINEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

kindred cape
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Seriously everyone has done amazing, good work all of y'all.

cedar osprey
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Fax

mint fjord
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Absolutely adore the work btw πŸ’š

kindred cape
mint fjord
kindred cape
kindred cape
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Delicious skull fracture

kindred cape
cedar osprey
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lel

reef crypt
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Sorry for not being very involved with this

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but holy moly you're cooking

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this thing is absolute cinema

opaque rampart
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HAAANK

DONT ROTATE EVERY BONE INDIVIDUALLY

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK

kindred cape
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Man.........he got fucked......I don't even know what I'm looking at. Is it because of how the bones are linked or?

kindred cape
opaque rampart
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Current animations finished:

  • Idle
  • Preparing violin
  • Playing violin idle
  • Playing violin while walking (animation per direction)

Still need to do probably:

  • Spawn in
    ~~ Playing Interrupt~~
  • Interrupt variant where fiddler stares at whatever interrupted angrily
  • Angered
  • Angry Idle
    ~~ Angry Walk~~
  • Violin bash attack
    (- Bow arm stab attack?)
  • Calm down and return to Idle behavior (After killing/losing track of whatever its angry at)
  • Death
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@lone thicket
If you could get the project updated to the newer versions somewhat soon I could send you the model and current anims for implementation. At current pace ill probably have everything finished in a week or two

kindred cape
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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I also had a funny idea

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I don't want to feature creep but ||what if when a crewmates dies near it or something like that there's a very small chance it'll play a sad violin song for a few seconds|| very much a joke idea

cedar osprey
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WHEN IS IT GONNA COME OUT

lone thicket
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Not soon

lone thicket
kindred cape
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I really hope that doesn't come back to haunt you guys later πŸ˜“

opaque rampart
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He is VERY dissappointed

tranquil briar
opaque rampart
kindred cape
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what happened???

tranquil briar
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hes doing a yoga pose that strengthens your back core hips and legs while boosting blood flow and digestion

kindred cape
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Why do I feel like his skeleton is going to explode?

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πŸ’₯

kindred cape
kindred cape
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πŸ˜€

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Also I petition this to be the next emoji or sticker for da server

kindred cape
normal ermine
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cant wait to see this get released

kindred cape
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Me too

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It's looking really good man

cedar osprey
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this might be my new favorite lethal company creature because it actually keeps it at a vanilla tone

kindred cape
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And it's unique

cedar osprey
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yes, one of my favorite parts about a creature in a video game

kindred cape
cedar osprey
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nuh uh, unless if hes in my ceiling tiles, drop down and eat me alive

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also when this comes out im gonna be so happy that im gonna go butt naked and run out into the road and start shakin cheeks and then prob get hit by a semi

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thats how happy i will be

kindred cape
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.....uh....what about just celebrating at the pub instead?

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Or anything that doesn't result in death or body wide injury??

tranquil briar
kindred cape
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Send in...the brack-man

kindred cape
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I wonder what the fiddler's mouth looks like, what he hiding? Normal mouth, hideous bug/crustacean mouth, handsome Squidward like jawline? The possibilities are endless.

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It be funny if after all this time we learn his lower mouth looks like a blobfish with a chiseled nose.

signal lily
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he has no mouth and he must 🎻

stiff parrot
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Ooooooo!!!

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this seems super cool!!

kindred cape
opaque rampart
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Been sidetracked this last week with other mods, but have been chipping away at these here and there

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Been able to reuse and stitch together more animations by copying and modifying older ones

shrewd bobcat
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hell yeah

cedar osprey
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i would crap my self if i say that running up to me

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like there would literally be a hole in my pants

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also btw i love it

kindred cape
opaque rampart
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I didnt even add head bob lol, its perspective

kindred cape
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Your animations are really smooth.

lone thicket
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You should see the rest

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He sent me a bunch that I'm in the process of hooking up

opaque rampart
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Lord so help me this one is whooping my ass 😭

kindred cape
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Ow

stiff parrot
kindred cape
stiff parrot
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I so gotta review this when it comes out

kindred cape
lone thicket
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I don't have the animation for playing the fiddle hooked up yet

shrewd bobcat
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it's peam

cedar osprey
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WHEN WILL IT BE UPLOADED IM EXITEEEEEEEEEEEED

cedar osprey
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when upload?

opaque rampart
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When its ready

shrewd bobcat
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it'll be out when it's out... and we like that

open osprey
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THATS PEAK LOOKING

small surge
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I do hope more modded monsters use animations that aren't just them being small and becoming big when they come out of a vent

signal lily
opaque rampart
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Yeahhh no way to avoid that

shrewd bobcat
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you can if you deform the shit out of the body

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player can't see the lower half of the body most of the time so it doesn't matter if it looks bad 9 times out of 10

opaque rampart
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maybe with enough keyframing I can twist it to an extent where it isnt visible, but I cant fully avoid it

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Hell the main body is bigger than the vent, so its gonna clip anyway

stiff parrot
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meow

upbeat baneBOT
stiff parrot
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SINCE 2024?????

kindred cape
lone thicket
cedar osprey
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If it can die what does its death animation look like?

lone thicket
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I don't think there is one yet, but if you read old messages you may find old plans for one

reef crypt
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new reaction dropped

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btw, i've been using these past few weeks to learn blender, so that if any animation help is needed i could actually be of help now

kindred cape
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Hey

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That looks pretty good

shrewd bobcat
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sick that you're learning a new skill brother

kindred cape
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Hell yeah

cedar osprey
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i see u

lone thicket
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work on this will pause for a few weeks while I update another project to v81 and get this into a new patched Unity project

shrewd bobcat
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hell yeah!

mint fjord
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The fiddle will soon be riddled trust greed normalcat

lone thicket
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So far, this project used LethalLib to register the enemy. That was fine while I got the basic behavior working, but since I have to move everything to a new patched project, I figured it's time to switch. Now comes the decision: LethalLevelLoader or DawnLib?

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I've used both in code but neither in the editor

opaque rampart
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Dawnlib

lone thicket
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Okay. Why do you suggest Dawn?

opaque rampart
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newer, more maintained and overall cleaner to use from what ive seen

hot drift
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LLL is easier to use for beginners imo

shrewd bobcat
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for enemies I think it's gotta be either LethalLib or DawnLib

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I don't think LLL for enemies is really that good

hot drift
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BioD uses LL?

shrewd bobcat
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yes?

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like every enemy mod uses LL lol

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only a few use dawnlib cuz it's not really the standard and pretty new all things considered

lone thicket
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It's basically half of the ProjectSCP stuff, the dinosaurs, and like 5 others that use Dawn

shrewd bobcat
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Oh i didn't know pscp used dawn as well

lone thicket
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a few of the enemies do

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999, 3166, 4666, and 2006

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so half is an overestimate

lone thicket
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Good news: I managed to update the original project to Unity 2022.62f2 and update some scripts to the point where the mod works again
Bad news: I don't know what exactly I need to do in order to update the rest of the vanilla references and/or move my work to a new patched project while preserving references

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But I at least have a place to start

kindred cape
lone thicket
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All of my (and Jacu's) work is intact. It's the vanilla references that I couldn't update all of

shrewd bobcat
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Glad you got it updated my dude

opaque rampart
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That old one sucked ass, so I made a new one

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And oh my god what happened to the hand

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its supposed to stop in place but I guess I fucked up the keyframes at some point lmao

shrewd bobcat
cedar osprey
hot drift
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he just chucked it through the vent lmao

lusty fog
opaque rampart
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Pretty far

lone thicket
opaque rampart
lusty fog
lone thicket
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Refining the behavior and implementing any other behavior we think fits the monster

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The basic behavior was the first thing I made and it's technically playable, but very buggy

lusty fog