Luna's Moons

[pastel lynx]

just to let you know this :,]

[compact pawn]

[errant island]

Forsaken is a weather!!

[tawdry citrus]

i like the name so i think i'll just deal with some people needing to find a fix for that issue

also, i believe i have a version of the mod that can be released now

as long as i just add optimization in the first update

[errant island]

This is gonna be weird hehe but go for it if you like it :3

[compact pawn]

Waiting for a mischievous moon named Confirm

[errant island]

Im gonna make a moon called lethal level loader

And uhm itolib

[errant island]

What does this mean

[tepid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lalala-i-cant-hear-you-i-can't-hear-you-cat-not-listening-gif-4122452965721041979

[tired crown]

Forsaken is a weather by Wesley maybe don't use the same name for a moon lol

[pastel lynx]

yup, turtles explained that

[tawdry citrus]

its kinda lame for that to just be completely off limits cuz someone else used it for something else

[tired crown]

Oh it's more so to avoid confusion imo

Not so much an off limits thing

I mean we have a moon named Monarch by Danielus and a Monarch enemy in CR so ig it's not the end of the world to use it lolol

[compact pawn]

It can cause issues a lot of the time, due to a lot of content-related stuff relying on string name comparisons, but yeah

Like if a mod adds a scrap that's just like a single word, and another mod tries registering another item with the same name, it'll be overridden

It do be why DawnLib's doing the whole NamespacedKey thing

Though it still doesn't exactly solve Terminal keyword conflicts, but Terminal's just goofy in general

[tawdry citrus]

im gonna upload the moon as it is

without any optimization

so some people might be able to test it

and then im gonna sleep

and hopefully wakeup to feedback

so i can fix bugs and optimize the moon tomorrow

[errant island]

Gn Luna!

[tawdry citrus]

thanks

you too whenever you sleep

[compact pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[tawdry citrus]

i dont have the energy to stay up and compress images for an hour

[compact pawn]

Ye lmao

Understandable

It's just a bit funny

[errant island]

I should be sleeping rn but this server is too addicting hehe

Ty :3

[compact pawn]

It do be rather tedious

[tawdry citrus]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lilac_Luna/Lunas_Moons/

Luna's Moons

[crimson flower]

first, we moons, then we lunas, LET'S LUNAS MOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tawdry citrus]

wuh

also, again

v1 is absurdly big

file size is massive

will be fixing it tomorrow

but i wanted to let people test it for now so people can tell me about issues

[tired crown]

How many Luna's exist in your system btw? Cus the old project was by LustrousLuna lolol

[tawdry citrus]

like 3

its a good name

[tired crown]

That has to get confusing

☠️

[tawdry citrus]

not really cuz we dont all talk to each other

[tired crown]

My name and Lyra's names both starting with L sometimes fucks us up lmao

[crimson flower]

well how do i do?

your moons are on the tier list, which name do i use???

[tawdry citrus]

every alter that i normally front with has names that start with L

[crimson flower]

or do i just use the separate thunderstore team names and put them together

[tawdry citrus]

the Lilac in our username is the one im closest with and that i front with the most

[tawdry citrus]

use the old name for the old moons

new name for my new ones

[crimson flower]

pretty much what i thought

your older work will be first, and the newer stuff at last

(as you can see in it, destitute is in first but i gotta fix it)

https://tiermaker.com/create/lethal-company---all-modded-moons-17285781

lets see if you got good eyes..

[tawdry citrus]

i know of none of the moons that have been made

so i couldnt fill out a tier list

[snow kindle]

Good job on releasing it! (Btw I dig the Forsaken name and I think it’d be funny to see the weather on it)

[tawdry citrus]

Has anyone been able to test the moon?

[pastel lynx]

Really good quality moon.
Although I think there's something weird with the render of LethalSponger (an optimization mod) creating a weird grain on the leaves

[tawdry citrus]

Is that something i can fix?

Also, was there any performance issues?

[pastel lynx]

surprisingly no big performance issues on my side

[pastel lynx]

most prob no :,]

I don't know, afaik it is something with the texture used

[tawdry citrus]

The occlusion stuff must be doing some real hard work

I don't have proper LOD's on anything

[pastel lynx]

worth to notice I have a pretty good laptop, so maybe on lower devices "could" have some perfomrance issues

[tawdry citrus]

Good chance of that

I also have a high end pc so performance testing is difficult

I cant really do it myself

[pastel lynx]

Here is the vid in higher quality (only 10 seconds)
With this you can see better the grain thingy

[tawdry citrus]

I see

I don't know why it might be doing that

[tepid pawn]

you dont need to worry about it

its moreso on the lethal sponge end probably

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[tawdry citrus]

gonna be uploading the file size reduction update

files werent put into the zip correctly

reuploading

[pastel lynx]

A small recommendation for your mod in general is making an icon related to the moons, that way more people, that are not directly in this thread, can know that this mod is related to moons.

Your current icon is not bad at all, but it can be misinterpreted or even have its quality questioned

[tawdry citrus]

i didnt have any idea what icon i might want so i just used my pfp

i'll change the icon when i decide on what i want it to be

anyways

new file size is just under 70 mb

[tired crown]

You gotta follow @snow kindle's tutorial you could probably munch it down further

Unless you did that already

XD

[tawdry citrus]

tutorial?

[tired crown]

#dev-moons message

With the old moons he helped you guys directly at the time but he posted the guide since so you can do it without him needing to help directly lol

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

i did all the texture compression stuff that's mentioned there

theres just quite a lot of unique textures used in the moon and some of them are still a tiny bit big because of quality reasons

[tired crown]

I will say if you were to bring back any of the old moons I would say I hope you manage to recreate Tenebrous honestly

[tawdry citrus]

wdym?

[tired crown]

Of the moons in the old collection, if you were to try recreating any of them

I'd pick Tenebrous

lol

[tawdry citrus]

why that one?

[tired crown]

That one is my favorite of them all honestly

[tawdry citrus]

oh?

[proper marsh]

crunch compression goes a long way when lowering texture size and it would look mostly the same (counting the post processing of lethal)

[tawdry citrus]

i was using that

[proper marsh]

you can also check the stuffs size when inspecting the bundle

[tawdry citrus]

mhm

i did that

i went through and compressed everything that i could

[proper marsh]

i see i see

[tawdry citrus]

would you prefer my own take on the same theme, or a remake?

[tired crown]

I think either would work, I could see some preferring a remake but you doing your own take and improving on things that had problems could be great too. You could always check out the current version ingame if needed and see which direction you'd prefer to go

[tawdry citrus]

what were your favorite parts of it?

[ashen vessel]

id personally prefer the pack to be all new moons

[tawdry citrus]

i like the theme of tenebrous and wouldnt mind making my own moon with the same theme

[tired crown]

Yee

[tawdry citrus]

@tired crown

[tired crown]

Honestly just the whole overall theme was what I loved about it

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

so you wouldnt mind a completely diferent layout?

[tired crown]

Definitely not, in fact it might be good cus it might resolve quite a bit of the enemy pathing issues that I believe the current iteration has lol

[ashen vessel]

different layout and name

but same theme

imo

[tawdry citrus]

that is the plan

it'll probably be my next moon

[tired crown]

I just realized

If the moon isn't using LLL how would we add interiors to it?

🤔

I'm curious if a config or smth for it generates now lol

Also @tawdry citrus You need to fix the AssetBundle names lmao

This will conflict with a moon that @unique heart made otherwise

[tawdry citrus]

Ah

[tired crown]

Damn though no way to apply interiors til Lunar Config updates ig

[unique heart]

https://tenor.com/view/revenge-of-the-sith-anakin-obi-wan-duel-gif-11200788900073578322

[tired crown]

@lofty wedge We need you

[unique heart]

lol, I thought about previously putting like my username or something as part of the title because it’s so generic

Actually… is mine TemplateMoon? It might be Templatemoon

[tired crown]

It'll still conflict probs, I don't think capitalization matters

lolol

[lofty wedge]

Huh wuh

[tired crown]

Moons are starting to use DawnLib so that Lunar Config update to use DawnLib is gonna be a lot more important so we can pick the interiors that the moons use

Cus currently it can only recognize LLL moons

[unique heart]

I think the asset bundle name is forced lowercase but internally you provide a moon name too which I think is where the config comes from. Different capitalization there probably makes them distinct, but for hot loading stuff if that’s based on the bundle then I could see issues

[lofty wedge]

I see

[tired crown]

Yeah I'm surprised Xu didn't implement a system quite yet for selecting interiors tbh, cus DawnLib does create a config for the moon at least

[unique heart]

Maybe once I get my laptop back from repairs (and hopefully they didn’t have to wipe it but if they did then also after I go through that headache) I can put my name in the title so other people can have a templatemoon. We can have a whole template family!

[tired crown]

Template my Moon and we will let you out

[compact pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[unique heart]

The only person I know who uses it is @stiff rain

I think they’ve configured it so I’d hate to make them redo it because of a name change but templatemoon feels like a potentially very common name lol

Even if Luna renames theirs first, still feels like I should do something to reduce the chance of overlap

[tired crown]

Ye

[tired crown]

@rustic pine If you're active rn, how easy would it be for you to add the option to allow configuring interiors for moons? Since it adds a seperate config for moons you might be able to allow that config to configure Interiors the same way Lunar Config does it 🤔

If you don't want to that is fine as well, just trying to think of a solution that'd work until Lunar Config is updated

[rustic pine]

I mean, I'm pretty sure the way it's gonna work is that interiors are assigned to moons and weathers, not the other way around

LLL's way of configuring interiors in moons is something I don't agree with

[tired crown]

Yeah so the way Lunar Config handles it right?

For example

[rustic pine]

No

[tired crown]

Oh

I figured you would be doing it this way since it's not the same as how LLL does it

[rustic pine]

Like I said, you can't assume that's how LunarConfig is gonna do it, ig it'll depend on how crafty wants to, but DawnLib will have interiors assigning weights within their own config to moons

Doesn't LLL just do the same thing as LunarConfig here?

[tired crown]

Ahhhhh

[stiff rain]

are you like
making it an actual moon

[tired crown]

Not quite no, Crafty did a poll a while ago to do it the way LLL does it or to do it the way LethalQuantities does it

[unique heart]

No, but apparently Luna also has a templatemoon. Don’t want names to overlap so I was thinking about doing something with the name, like idk Snipers_templatemoon for instance so that overlap doesn’t happen

[tired crown]

Lunar Config does it the way LQ does it, where you assign the interiors you want under each moon, rather than adding moons to the interior sections

[rustic pine]

Again, you say LLL or LQ but afaik LLL just allows you to put interiors onto a moons config, but I also haven't edited an LLL config in ages

@compact pawn please clarify for me

[compact pawn]

Reverse

[tired crown]

LLL does it like this

[compact pawn]

Lets you put moons on the interior config

[rustic pine]

Okay, then yeah the LLL way is the right way imo

And I'm keeping it that way

[errant island]

[compact pawn]

You've got a generate config thingy though for DawnLib right?

Needs to be enabled by moon creator though iirc

[rustic pine]

Moon configs don't entirely have too many configs but there are options for stuff like the cost, terminal predicates etc

This is mostly because all other content feeds to moons

[compact pawn]

Ye

[rustic pine]

So moon configs are mostly made up by other content etc

[compact pawn]

I do purposefully have configuration disabled for DawnLib moons in the LLL config, but that wouldn't affect interiors since there ain't an option for it there to begin with

[​​​​​​​​Custom Level:  Forsaken]

## The author of this content has chosen not to allow for LethalLevelLoader to generate a custom configuration template for them.
## This is likely due to said content author providing alternative configuration options in their own Config.
# Setting type: Boolean
# Default value: false
Content Author Disabled Automatic Configuration File Warning = false

[compact pawn]

Does the moon actually not show up on LunarConfig though?

[tired crown]

I personally prefer how Lunar Config is doing it

At first I thought I wouldn't but tbh it's made setting up interiors for moons a lot nicer imo

[tired crown]

No

Cus Lunar Config isn't using DawnLib yet

I don't think any config mod will register DawnLib moons rn

[compact pawn]

Ye but if it reads through PatchedContent.ExtendedLevels (which I'm fairly sure it do), then it'd show up mayhaps

[tired crown]

It doesn't

It couldn't show Oxyde either

[rustic pine]

What does LLL provide in terms of configs for moons

[tired crown]

I can double check but it wasn't showing up earlier

Yeah no

Lunar doesn't register it

I don't think it can til it migrates from CRLib to DawnLib

[compact pawn]

Not much actually, or rather it's a bit limited, interior config's a bit more useful in comparison

But uhhhh

[compact pawn]

Routing price, time multiplier (though needs the mod that fixes it skipping over quotas and stuff), whether it's hidden in the terminal, min/max scrap spawn amounts, spawnable scraps (but only vanilla ones show up iirc, or at least there's something weird with modded items), enemy power levels, spawnable enemies (also only vanilla ones)

[tired crown]

Actually

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/WhiteSpike/Moon_Day_Speed_Multiplier_Patcher/ Speaking of that issue and needing this patch, I do think this is an issue that DawnLib should patch, or Jacob's API when he later releases it should patch

tbh

it's something that should have been fixed natively in LLL imo

[compact pawn]

Mayhaps

[rustic pine]

Probably yeah I'll fix it

[rustic pine]

Okay yeah I got half of those and I can add the rest

Makes sense

[compact pawn]

I'm hyped for the Transpiler royal rumble to patch TimeOfDay.Update

[compact pawn]

It does show up

[tired crown]

Not for me

[compact pawn]

Though I'm not 100% sure if its settings would apply regardless though, since it'd only be changing ExtendedLevel and not DawnMoonInfo stuff

[tired crown]

I literally checked

[compact pawn]

I am looking at it 💀

[tired crown]

It isn't there pacoito

[compact pawn]

[LLL - Forsaken (unknown.templatemod.forsakenextendedlevel)]

## Enable to change any of the settings below.
# Setting type: Boolean
# Default value: false
Configure Content = false

## Changing this setting will do nothing, these are the names which LunarConfig will recognize as this object in other config options.
## They are case-insensitve and do not regard whitespace.
# Setting type: String
# Default value: Forsaken
Appropriate Aliases = Forsaken

...

[tired crown]

That's in LLL's config

not Lunar

[tired crown]

Oh yeah wtf it does show up now

[compact pawn]

Lmao

[tired crown]

It didn't earlier

wtf

[rustic pine]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-anime-gif-25275767

[compact pawn]

💀

[compact pawn]

But yeah not sure if the stuff applies lmao

[rustic pine]

I totally didn't expect that plottwist

[tired crown]

I even checked after loading up a lobby which is when Lunar Config generates moons

and it was not there

LMAO

[rustic pine]

God damn fphone

New phone, ass controls

[compact pawn]

It was shy

[rustic pine]

Broke the screen on my old one so I got a temporary half broken old one

[tired crown]

Prolly just smth finnicky with your compat you did paco

but neat it works XD

[rustic pine]

I agree, just get better paco

[tired crown]

I mean Lunar just reads the entries from LLL

I'll have to see if configuration works

[compact pawn]

sadcat

[tired crown]

"I ordered Lunar config to troll Lacy I'm sorry" - Lyra

[compact pawn]

[tired crown]

@lofty wedge Seems like paco's LLL compat with DawnLib has saved you til you convert to DawnLib

[compact pawn]

[tired crown]

time for me to check this moon ingame

I am excited

[compact pawn]

Config does seem to apply

Or uhh, at least dungeon selection

[tired crown]

No fucking clue how you get to main entrance on this moon

Figured it out I think

[compact pawn]

Gotta do a loop sorta

[tired crown]

Holy shit there's so many turrets

wtf

[compact pawn]

💀

[tired crown]

Yeah this uh

Needs some rebalancing

Holy hell

LMAO

I like the moon though it's gorgeous

[tawdry citrus]

its using the same genration rules as assurance

[tired crown]

☠️

I guess I got unlucky rng

lmao

[tawdry citrus]

lol

[tired crown]

Turrets were everywhere

XD

[tawdry citrus]

assurance can be crazy with turrets sometimes

so it makes sense

[tawdry citrus]

i appreciate it

[tired crown]

The route time takes a while btw

[compact pawn]

It ain't that bad

But ye

[tired crown]

Just a bit longer than it should be imo

[compact pawn]

Though it's also a bit hard to change moon layout after it's already been planned and stuff

[tired crown]

it's not bad but could be a bit shorter

it is a configurable thing

What?

No

[compact pawn]

Whar

[tired crown]

You can always adjust the time it takes to route to a moon

[compact pawn]

OH wait route time

I thought you meant path to main

For some reason

[tired crown]

No

the slow routing goober

XD

[compact pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[compact pawn]

Make it slower

[tired crown]

make pacoito slower

Got it

[compact pawn]

[tired crown]

Flooded is a bit unplayable

[tawdry citrus]

i havent gotten to see how flodded actually looks

[tired crown]

the path to main becomes completely covered in water

[tawdry citrus]

can you send screenshots or a video?

[tired crown]

lol

[tawdry citrus]

theres more than one

one of them is intentionally filled with water when it floods

[pastel lynx]

funny weather

[tawdry citrus]

Sooo

Any bugs found?

[tawdry citrus]

I'll take that as a no

I have no idea how to make a second moon

Im gonna need help with that

[rustic pine]

same process, in the content container is a list, just add another entry to that list

the folder structure is setup so that in the moons folder you can just add another thing for another moon

[tawdry citrus]

lemme load up my project so i can ask more specific questions

renaming things is hard cuz i dont know why things are named what they are and what needs to be changed

what does the template_mod namespace do?

[rustic pine]

thats basically your mods' namespace, like mine is code_rebirth, wesleys' mods are called magic_wesleys_mod

[tawdry citrus]

whats it linked to?

if i change it there

where else do i have to change to match?

[rustic pine]

you dont have to match namespaces anywhere, its all an internal thing

if someone is trying to get your content via code, they have to find your namespace and content name

so template_mod:template_moon

[tawdry citrus]

what should i rename it to?

[rustic pine]

whatever you wanna name your mod

[tawdry citrus]

so, same thing i already named it?

[rustic pine]

you can type whatever and it'll parse it accordingly so you dont have to follow a lowercase with no spaces etc format

[rustic pine]

like template_mod? should probably change that cuz if someone is trying to find your content that wont really make much sense

[tawdry citrus]

i mean like

the same thing i named my mod when i uploaded it

[rustic pine]

yeah you can

dont give it like a moon name though, like it could just be lilac luna mod

whatever you want thats unique to you and not pointed to a specific content piece

[tawdry citrus]

i believe i understand the process now

View from outside my bedroom window next to my desk

Felt like sharing cuz its so pretty

[blissful gorge]

no wonder everything y'all have made is so pretty

you live in the most beautiful place on earth oml 😭

[rustic pine]

literally

[errant island]

yeah

[tawdry citrus]

its just winter ohio

[blissful gorge]

still pretty!!!

[errant island]

not everyone has a winter ohio outside their window

man i really wanna see snow

[tawdry citrus]

@rustic pine what does this mean?

[rustic pine]

I was gonna explain smthn but I might have a better solution, go to the Assets/Editor folder

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

ohh

found it

what now?

[rustic pine]

https://github.com/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/releases/tag/v0.4.4 once you're there, go to the file explorer and replace the editor dll with the one in here

It'll be the first download in what I sent

Same name

So it should give a replacement prompt

[tawdry citrus]

so what'll this do?

[rustic pine]

We'll see, I'm on phone so I don't know the exact source of the error but try going to your moon definition and doing ctrl s

And see if it does the saving thing with your mouse

If it works like I'm hoping, you shouldn't need to get rid of the scene from the moon definition and re-add it

The issue is similar to one you've had before, renaming the bundle after assigning it makes it get confused on what the bundle is called

[tawdry citrus]

as in?

it just wont let me import the new one correctly

it isnt asking if i wanna replace it or anything

it just gives errors and doesnt import it

[rustic pine]

Yeah replace

Oh

Uhh

Are you not doing this via file explorer?

[tawdry citrus]

oh

[rustic pine]

I usually just drag the new files over the new phones via file explorer to replace outdated ones with new ones

Idk if it's the same in linux

[tawdry citrus]

it works in the normal file manager

i assumed i was supposed to do it in unity

[rustic pine]

Nah file manager is better for handling files in my experience loo

Lol*

[tawdry citrus]

so, i replaced it

now what?

[rustic pine]

Now just go into unity and do dis

If it did the saving action then you're good to just rebuild your assetbundles and zip

[tawdry citrus]

it gave a bunch of errors

like

a lot

[rustic pine]

Oh yeah okay I see issue

In the GitHub releases link I sent

U gotta update your DawnLib DLLs too

Just download the dawnlib zip from it

Open it, then go to your dependencies folder, and open your files manager onto the dawnlib folder in therr

And drag all the new files into the unity ones to replace em

Make sure u don't delete any files, only replace

Cuz unity generates .meta files that you don't wanna delete associated to dlls

If you did delete em, it just means you gotta click a couple things in the DLLs settings

[tawdry citrus]

now what?

also

something seems to be missing

[rustic pine]

Any errors in the console?

If not, just restart unity ig, I've never seen this happen but it's already happened to you once before lol

[rustic pine]

Go to the moon definition, ctrl + s, and rebuild asset bundles and rebuild zip package and test that out

[tawdry citrus]

does this mean anything?

[rustic pine]

Oh the editor tool should've auto deleted that

Weird, just delete that . compatibility dll manually then

[tawdry citrus]

so, why isnt the options to build the zip file here?

[compact pawn]

DawnLib editor .dll does not appear to have loaded

[tawdry citrus]

where would that be?

oh yeah

huh

somehow it removed itself cuz im certain i never deleted it

[rustic pine]

Oh lol

I thought it just needed you to reload, that's also the reason why that compatibility dll also didn't delete ig

[tawdry citrus]

i have a question

is it possible to use unity's built in water stuff?

or is it just unable to be rendered inside of LC?

[rustic pine]

If it's pink in the editor then it's not possible

The idea is that the shader needs to be a derivative of HDRP for it to work in an HDRP project

Which is what lethal is

[tawdry citrus]

it renders just fine in editor

[compact pawn]

Can also use https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sniper1_1/WaterAssetRestorer for some of the game's water shaders

Scene shaders not available though

[tawdry citrus]

i dont want the game's water shaders

[compact pawn]

i c

[tawdry citrus]

they ugly

i want water that looks like this

for an ocean

[rustic pine]

Then it should load just fine ingame

[tawdry citrus]

lemme test it again

doesnt render in game

[rustic pine]

Huh

What layer did u put it on

@compact pawn have u seen this before?

I've never seen em just not render

[compact pawn]

Is it mayhaps on like the Triggers layer

QuicksandTrigger itself should be on that layer, but the water renderer should be on one that's actually visible

[tawdry citrus]

the stuff im trying to use isnt just a material i found or anything

[rustic pine]

Yeah I'm thinking the same tbh, there are a few other layers too that remove rendering

[tawdry citrus]

its unity's hdrp water stuff

[rustic pine]

Uhh don't you have to put it on a game object?

[tawdry citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic_3p90NdxM

[rustic pine]

I'm not sure then I've never used this, but it looked like something you applied onto a game object from a brief look onto the video

[tawdry citrus]

its stuff that has to be enabled in project settings to actually be used

and im not sure if thats an issue or not

[unique heart]

If it’s something you have to enable in the project settings it’s possible Zeekerss would need to enable it, but I’m pretty sure there’s other stuff in there that we can turn on in our projects and it works fine in game

[tawdry citrus]

it also requires adding an override to this

[rustic pine]

You might have to do this via scripting then

Send me a zip with it, I'm heading to sleep but when I wake up I'll remember to do these options via code and see if they work

But I do need to be told exactly what it is that needs to be enabled and done

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

[rustic pine]

Send me a zip of the moon with the water stuff setup and I'll try to get it working via scripts

[tawdry citrus]

how do i do that?

[rustic pine]

The zip? Just send the one you're using to view it ingame

[tawdry citrus]

im confused

the asset bundles?

[tawdry citrus]

this moon's gonna take a bit cuz im gonna have to figure out how to make my own ocean water shader

and the entire map is gonna need to be custom modeled with a lot of custom textures

[tawdry citrus]

i have my water shaders

so im not super lost on what to do now

[snow kindle]

you made a custom water shader?

👀

[tawdry citrus]

sadly no cuz i was planning on it, but i found a unity sample that had exactly what i needed

[snow kindle]

Yeah I didnt see the messages yesterday but we all use one unity asset I think you found as well

[tawdry citrus]

the one im talking about isnt in the asset store

[snow kindle]

ooh

[tawdry citrus]

this'll prob take a while longer than normal

im doing a proper blockout of the map first before i do the art pass

[tawdry citrus]

the beginnings of the blockout

[crimson flower]

greyboxxing

[tawdry citrus]

yes

[errant island]

OOOW

[crimson flower]

i should do that more often on my projects..

i just rawdog it

[errant island]

PLS TELL ME IS POOLROOMS VIBE

I will scream

[crimson flower]

and spread prefabs around the scene

[tawdry citrus]

its not

[crimson flower]

and if i don't like it?

[errant island]

awwwwwwwwww

[crimson flower]

i just delete it.

https://tenor.com/view/owl-puff-come-at-me-threat-gif-7746470

[tawdry citrus]

its gonna be overall the same theme as tenebrous

[errant island]

oh yeah right it doesnt have textures yet haha

i just love anything with water and waterfalls hehe

[crimson flower]

true..

[errant island]

honestly if its nature related too it would be soo peeeaaaaaaaak aaaaa

you are so gooood omg

[snow kindle]

omg.. you are making the one that I really wanted

I cant wait to see it!

[tawdry citrus]

oh?

[snow kindle]

Idk if you remember but one time we talked about this how we imagine Liquidation

your other alter also had a very similar vision

[tawdry citrus]

ohh okay

[tawdry citrus]

its gonna have some spots with plants

the theme of tenebrous was a ocean platform research base

on the same planet as the company building

this moon is of that same theme

[errant island]

ooooh

[tawdry citrus]

but my own take on it

[errant island]

hmmm oki!!

honestly if it has water im all for it

[tawdry citrus]

and because its an ocean platform on an ocean planet

its gonna need living space

so the plan is to have an upper section with all the main buildings and stuff

and general living space and office/lab buildings (not with interiors)

and its gonna have a big central courtyard type area

and underneath the platforms that the upper section is on

there's gonna be all the supports for the whole structure

and all the pipes and machinery will all be down there

and theres gonna be basically just a series of falling apart maintenance catwalks

[errant island]

so much foods!

[crimson flower]

orghh we eating

[tawdry citrus]

this will take a while

it wont be the biggest moon because its multi layered and making it large would make it hard to play

but the actual amount of work required to make the moon is a lot

so it'll take a bit

especially because im designing the moon with the greyboxing stuff first

anyways

taking a break for today

i just wanted to actually get something done

because i finally got the water assets i needed

[tepid pawn]

@blissful gorge courts sister

[tawdry citrus]

wuh?

[tepid pawn]

monty made a moon thats a concrete structure in the middle of a vast ocean

yours is very different to it though

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[tepid pawn]

both look very cool

[tawdry citrus]

a couple screenshots of the old moon that im following the general idea of

[errant island]

not even close to court

[blissful gorge]

what the fuck

that is really similar yeah, atleast in its current state

looks mad cool

[tawdry citrus]

thanks :3

[blissful gorge]

if it's similar to tenebrous in any way I'm sure it'll come out awesome

[tepid pawn]

im sorry WHAT

Its peak…

[tawdry citrus]

im not at the actual like "art pass" yet

obviously

so

it looks a lot different

but a lot of that just comes down to the lighting

the overcast weather with the deep blue lighting is where the feel of tenebrous comes from

[tepid pawn]

man i need to make some damn moons with my current knowledge and put the effort of my interiors into it

i need a jimmy neutron brain blast

i see all these people making peak and look back at my old stuff and its

bleh

i know i could do better

I will follow this moon with great interest

i like small unique moons like this

[tawdry citrus]

Whenever i get the blockout finished

Probably in a few days

Would anyone be interested in testing the moon out?

As a sorta prototype test

Or something like that

[pastel lynx]

sure!

[tawdry citrus]

nice

i want to test the layout before the proper art stuff is getting done

just to make sure i got the scale and feel right

[pastel lynx]

sure

[tawdry citrus]

sorry for not giving updates on progress

blockout isnt very interesting to look at

its just a bunch of untextured basic shapes

[compact pawn]

There ain't a daily progress quota you gotta meet, should just work at your own pace

[tawdry citrus]

oh i know

i've been working kinda slowly so i dont burn out

[compact pawn]

Yee

[tawdry citrus]

since this moon is a really big project

i dont wanna do it all in a couple days

[unique heart]

Do they go in the square hole?

[tawdry citrus]

and i've been deaing with life stuff recently so i've put no time into it for a bit

[tawdry citrus]

yes

[tawdry citrus]

but im working on it more today so i decided to say something here

[compact pawn]

Aw understandable, hope everything's going alright at least

[tawdry citrus]

everythings fine

[pastel lynx]

take your time :]
No pressure at all

[tawdry citrus]

i feel like this might be a good place to ask

i dont currently have access to in person, physical work and need money since i'm gonna need to get my own place to live

and im not sure how to make money from home

hoping someone here might have advice

[tired crown]

Did things with your partner not work out?

[tawdry citrus]

We live together still

Neither of us are currently able to work

And her mom is a genuinely horrible person

So we're working on plans to move somewhere on our own

She'll be able to drive soon after winter likely

But cant currently

No license

[tawdry citrus]

We live in the middle of nowhere ohio

So, cant work anywhere without driving

[tired crown]

Wait whar you live in Ohio? lmao

[tawdry citrus]

Yes

Lol

[tired crown]

We live in the same state so we could technically meet sometime

[tawdry citrus]

Damn

That's crazy

Point is though, we're making plans to move

We're planning to move to Seattle

[tired crown]

That's really far away to plan to move lol

[tawdry citrus]

It is

[tired crown]

why Seattle of all places?

I kinda if I ever can get in a situation to move

Wanna move out of the US to Canada or smth

cus the US keeps just making really bad decisions

[tawdry citrus]

Growing city with pretty high quality of life, high minimum wage, thriving queer community, good culture, and in a geographical region that we both like a lot

[tawdry citrus]

I'd love to leave the country

But

Its really hard to do

[tired crown]

I wanna live in an area where it actually snows during the Winter again too, I really miss Snow during the Winter cus it's so rare anymore

Like on the off chance it does snow it's gone after like 2 days

[tawdry citrus]

I used to live in texas

It never snows in texas

It actually snows where we are in ohio at least

[tired crown]

It Snows here too, but it doesn't Snow super often or last super long

[tawdry citrus]

Oh okay

[tawdry citrus]

Our hope is to save 10k and then move

Because that'll cover our costs for long enough to find work there

And Because we are still in a position to live for free

We can save everything we earn

And once we have jobs

Itll take about 6 months to save 10k

Working minimum wage part time

[tepid pawn]

fucking TRUE

god damn global warming stealing our snow

winter without snow is just the worst season

its so grey

and boring

but with lots of snow im afraid its peak

[tawdry citrus]

something on topic for the server

im leaning more into the city vibes that tenebrous had

i want it to feel like a city people lived and worked in

not a collection of random roads inbetween buildings with no entrance

[tawdry citrus]

a bit of what i've got so far

anyone awake to give feedback?

[pastel lynx]

Looks good!

[tawdry citrus]

does it have tenebrous vibes at all?

[pastel lynx]

I can see the vibes, I still need to check how to travel between these lands

[tawdry citrus]

theres only a tiny playable area rn

i havent been working very much recently

but when i have been, i've been more carefully designing stuff on a small scale

[tawdry citrus]

gonna work on the moon some more

[crimson flower]

pretty great....

but i would say

that spot for the ship should be a little bigger

since (almost) everyone uses wider ship and 2story ship

just so they don't have the potential issue of being pushed off and killed

[blissful gorge]

moon makers should never make their layouts with wider ship in mind

unless they really, really want to

[rustic pine]

What's the problem with that though

[crimson flower]

thats why i said to avoid issues, since we gotta give these people some compatibility yknow?

[rustic pine]

Sure it's not a high priority but it can't be that terrain changing just to make the landing a bit bigger

[tepid pawn]

who is everyone?

im not everyone then

[crimson flower]

im everyone

[tepid pawn]

And none of my friends are everyone

[crimson flower]

also, MOST footage ive seen uses it

so i interpreted it as "most of the userbase use it"

[tepid pawn]

i genuinely havent played with it in like a year and i never play my own pack anymore

[crimson flower]

just recently i decided to install it

i didn't really like it before

but after these new updates, along with the 2story compat

my group liked it

we never met any issues with it as of now

[rustic pine]

It's a good mod yeah

[crimson flower]

works pretty well with the sheer number of furniture we got

https://tenor.com/view/dieofdeath-dod-pursuer-artful-badware-gif-650908612599164847

[rustic pine]

Lol, it works pretty well with high player lobbies too, there's a lotta uses

[crimson flower]

just 4 of us really play with it (we had 8 people at once back when wesley's journeys came out)

but we like how spacious it is..

so i decided to keep it in our modpack

[rustic pine]

Yeah, nothing quite like it, 2 story is pretty neat too

[crimson flower]

trvth..

[rustic pine]

The compat between the both of them is also nice

[crimson flower]

oh yeah

my only nitpick is that just one side has stairs

[rustic pine]

There might be a config for that to be honest but unsure

[tepid pawn]

NOOOOO

[rustic pine]

Cuz I know stairs used to be right side

[tepid pawn]

BADWAREEE

[crimson flower]

NO MORE SNOWBALLING

FUCK YOU

[crimson flower]

it did?

i checked configs a while before and didn't find anything

[rustic pine]

Ye, 2 story flipped where the stairs are on the ship

[blissful gorge]

a lot of people complained in the past about certain moons not working with those mods, so I wanted to reiterate that unless the creator really really wants to make their layout fit with wider or 2story it should not be expected

[tepid pawn]

im a harken player its okae

[blissful gorge]

Just something that irks me so I wanted to make that clear lol

[crimson flower]

how do you play harken

i get my ass handed to me

i wanna play discerna..

[blissful gorge]

if luna wants to do it then that's awesome, but she shouldn't be expected to accomodate for mods like those is all I'm saying

[rustic pine]

Fair enough but I don't think it's a problem to just ask for compatibility, no is a quick and easy answer

[crimson flower]

yeah

we can't expect compatibilities sometimes..

but its good to have

to avoid issues

like i said up there

[blissful gorge]

I def appreciate the extra amount of space for fucking around lol

[crimson flower]

me turning the 2nd floor into a british estate

[tepid pawn]

idk tbh man, just take a look 👀 at your health constantly and use your speed to trick people

and hooks are reaaaly useful

[blissful gorge]

It is not a problem to ask, but it should also not be expected lol

[crimson flower]

not when i miss my tangles 😭

i lost most of the time because of the timer, forgot to mention it lol

actually not most

[blissful gorge]

if possible yes

[crimson flower]

ALL the time

[blissful gorge]

NEVER!!!

you will win every time cuz you're FUCKING awesome badq

[crimson flower]

Dude... Fuck yes.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387234697293074443/1390833370526646323/togif.gif

[tawdry citrus]

normal ship just barely fits

no plans to make it bigger

[crimson flower]

yeah all good

should be fine i think?

from what im seeing now

[errant island]

maybe mrov ship but idt melanie

[tawdry citrus]

front courtyard area for one of the buildings

[tired crown]

I'd make it slightly larger just for Bigger Ship to work but wouldn't worry about Wider + 2SS compat

[proper marsh]

bigger ship kinda maintains the outside proportions so it shouldn't he a problem, if vanilla fits, biggership does too

[tired crown]

It's just the one wall looks really tight so it'd be worth double checking lol

[tawdry citrus]

what is bigger ship?

[ashen vessel]

its just a bit bigger

its mostly stays close to the bounds of the og ship so works well with modded moons

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[compact pawn]

Still need a non-Euclidean ship, would avoid all this

Though PocketRooms count

[tawdry citrus]

Wuh?

[compact pawn]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MelanieMelicious/Pocket_Rooms_MelanieMelicious

These

[tepid pawn]

it will work, dw about it

the actual box scale of the ship is borderline identical

its just one end is wider, but it doesnt exceed the original max width of the ship

[tawdry citrus]

im trying to test stuff and im having an issue where my moons arent showing up in the list of moons

[rustic pine]

Oh? Can you post logs?

[tawdry citrus]

sorry, completely forgot about this and didnt check the server

[cedar prawn]

Is there supposed to be no config for the new moon?

ah nvm i forgot this moon uses dawn

[tawdry citrus]

hey everyone, wanted to give an update

i decided to just take a break

have been dealing with other things

working on the moon was already taking a lot of effort and energy cuz its a lot of work

didnt have the energy to work on it

i would like to return from my break soon as i've been missing any sort of creative outlet

[crimson flower]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-skull-emoji-dead-nah-im-dead-gif-27117612

[normal nymph]

pertty

[tawdry citrus]

wanted to remind you all that i still exist

lol

i took a break from working for a bit cuz of mental stress and there was technical issues that i just didnt wanna deal with at the time

[blissful gorge]

glad you're talking yer time!

[normal nymph]

thank you for the update

[pastel lynx]

The most important thing is making what you want in the speed you are more comfortable to not burn up.
I'm currently kinda "out" of LC until I finish something else (Elden Ring Modded Hardmode Coop), and after that, I will come back :]

[normal nymph]

i didnt know how long Forsaken was out. apologies, and thank you for the patience

[nimble fox]

is the original lunar lights package ever gonna be updated again

[crimson flower]

i guess not

[stable needle]

me after 1 minute of no answer 😭

[errant island]

they said no

it was lost

the files

[nimble fox]

i thought someone else said they still had em

[cedar prawn]

is there really no way to restore lunar lights?
would be really sad if these moons could not get updated anymore

[tawdry citrus]

@cedar prawn you can post your progress here if you wanna show everyone

[cedar prawn]

sure

i can announce that lunarlights will get updated again
i asked for permission to try and restore the unity project (as the original one is sadly lost, which is why the moons could not get any updates anymore) and so far it is looking really good

when the moons get updated they will also get put up as single moon mod

the process of restoring the moons is quite lengthy as some moons have more broken assets than others (i basically have to retag everything and fix a lot of scripts/shaders which did not rip correctly)

[tired crown]

I'll be glad to see these return and get updated. I really loved these moons but they sadly had some balancing issues, optimization problems and some other issues last we tried them

[cedar prawn]

i will adjust balancing as some of the spawn curves feel a bit extreme

[cedar prawn]

i am not aware of any performance issues do you remember which moons had them?

also tenebrous is done (it was the easiest to restore)

[tired crown]

Boreal later in the day, Tenebrous had lots of bugs with enemies iirc, Precipice I think was quite laggy. Idrk about Incalescence and Calamitous

[cedar prawn]

you mean outside enemies on tenebrous?

[tired crown]

Yeah

[cedar prawn]

i did notice a lot of ainodes close together so i will reduce the number a bit

[pastel lynx]

The moonpack could be updated too?

[cedar prawn]

yes

it will once all the moons are done

[pastel lynx]

Neat, thanks

[cedar prawn]

at the moment only tenebrous is restored

[pastel lynx]

I remember Borealis ice was transparent (idk if it was intentional)

I mean, like 100% transparent

[cedar prawn]

some other moons will require more manual work/fixing (esp rampart because all the scripts are gone)

[pastel lynx]

Oof :']

[cedar prawn]

pretty sure it is

there is an ice layer above the water

[pastel lynx]

I'm pretty sure that's not how it looks ingame

I'll try getting a video soon

But thanks for the efford man

It's really aprpeciated to see these peak moons getting restored ❤️

[cedar prawn]

no problem i really like these moons myself so i wanted to make sure they are maintained

i dont know what happens with the interior though

i can try to look into it but maybe someone else has to fix that as i have never worked on one

[pastel lynx]

There are really few people who know how to do interiors :']

[tepid pawn]

wtf that water shader is sick

[tepid pawn]

[pastel lynx]

Lunar was a master doing water shader

[pastel lynx]

Few, but not 0

[pastel lynx]

Also please :']
That interior was really neat

[cedar prawn]

it is from a package on the asset store

that is the only reason it is possible for us to recover the shaders

[tepid pawn]

what interior…

[tepid pawn]

free?

[cedar prawn]

yeah

[pastel lynx]

LostEdifice

[cedar prawn]

lost edifice from the mod eternal void

[tepid pawn]

oh

[cedar prawn]

you are good at interiors maybe you can take a look at it after the moons are done

[tepid pawn]

i remember it being manor shaped facility

[tepid pawn]

NOPE

NO

shutting you down right there i am not adding on more projects

i still have supermarket to do

[cedar prawn]

but then i have to learn how to fix it

i think it should be fine as far as i know the interior only had a couple tiles where items get voided

[pastel lynx]

I was thinking about @eternal gulch

[cedar prawn]

Boreal is also looking good

[unique heart]

You can’t just say this and not share

[pastel lynx]

iirc lunar said the asset store item years ago

[pastel lynx]

is it possible to make the blue part of the ice more... blue?
I'm still not able to record the moon on my side cuz I'm working, but will do soon

[cedar prawn]

oh sure lemme get the link

[cedar prawn]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/unity-terrain-hdrp-demo-scene-213198

[cedar prawn]

i can try to mess with some numbers in the shader

[pastel lynx]

thanks!

[unique heart]

Interesting! thanks!

[cedar prawn]

is this better i changed the ice texture slightly

[cedar prawn]

what is the general opinion on the little video reel that plays on the terminal when orbiting a moon?
the lunarlights moons dont have any but they would be easy enough to add

[pastel lynx]

Looks better

[tired crown]

Could be neat, I also think the moons lack unique moon orbit prefabs as well currently

[cedar prawn]

yeah i noticed that i can change that after the moons are done

[pastel lynx]

Hey lunx, honest opinion...
Do you recommend a ship changing mod? (Biggership / 2storyship)
Or do you preffer the vanilla one?

[tired crown]

I just use the Vanilla one right now, I like the ship changing mods but I also get some issues with them

[tired crown]

Mel is currently actively doing some updates and fixes for 2 Story Ship so I would recommend either the Vanilla or 2 Story ship without wider added on ^^

[pastel lynx]

Hmm, interesting.
Any issues with wider btw?

[tired crown]

Not that I'm aware of, it just doesn't play well with a lot of modded moons cus it makes the ship so wide

Typically why I prefer Vanilla, 2 Story no Wider, or Bigger after Bigger gets v81 support

[cedar prawn]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LunarLights/Tenebrous/

Tenebrous v1.0.0

• updated to v81 (new enemies, main door animation)
• fixed fire exit rotation
• old birds should not get stuck anymore

as always let me know about any things i might have missed

[pastel lynx]

wow

[cedar prawn]

and how the moons balancing feels

Screenshots used on the mod page

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LunarLights/Boreal/

Boreal v1.0.0

• updated to v81 (new enemies, main door animation)
• fixed fire exit rotation
• balance changes

3 more will release tomorrow the other 2 (calamitous and especially rampart are not done yet and will need more manual fixing)

[vapid mango]

@cedar prawn Are you releasing moons individually or in a pack too

[cedar prawn]

these moons are not made by me they are from this pack https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LustrousLuna/Lunar_Lights/

i just maintain and update them in the meantime (that is also why i dont release the moons under my name)

[cedar prawn]

there will be a full pack release once all of the moons are done (not sure if the original moon pack is getting updated or if there will be an updated fork of it)

[pastel lynx]

Neat again!

[nimble fox]

this is so sick

looking at the previous messages this is gonna be done for every moon in the pack?

[pastel lynx]

that's the plan afaik

[nimble fox]

if so, i'll make a specific request about rampart, for some reason it runs way worse than all the others

idk if thats cus of all the foliage or what

but it was always running sub-60fps for me no matter what i did

[pastel lynx]

I remember Incalescence having some LoD issues, being able to see some prop "pop" when walking close to it

Btw, this is just a nitpick of mine, but I remember some of the moon having custom fire exits...
I never liked those :,]

[cedar prawn]

i think the only one is on calamitous

[cedar prawn]

yeah that is a problem on some of the moons and is something i will try to adjust

[cedar prawn]

i dont think that is the case as the same foliage is used on the other moons too

but it is the most complex moon out of all of them

[pastel lynx]

there are in Rampart

[cedar prawn]

really?

[rustic yacht]

I always disliked how the rocks weren't the same as in vanilla which made the moon feel much less vanilla to me, just a personal thing though

[pastel lynx]

yup, there are like 3/4 fire exits, all of them are open with a white background inside

[cedar prawn]

i will switch them out with the normal fire exits

[cedar prawn]

i see what you mean but the moons dont go for a strictly vanilla style (and the unique visual style they have is something i really like about them)

[pastel lynx]

Thanks bro

[pastel lynx]

AGREE

[pastel lynx]

Is this a coderebirth or a moon issue?

[cedar prawn]

I have no idea

[cedar prawn]

are enemies floating when moving there?

[pastel lynx]

I've not seen floating enemies

I can test btw

[cedar prawn]

i had some problems with combined meshes and read/write but in editor the navmesh generated fine

[pastel lynx]

no

[cedar prawn]

weird i will take a look if i can find something there this is next to main right?

otherwise maybe ask xu

[pastel lynx]

yeah, It's on the left side near the main entrance

[cedar prawn]

@rustic pine do you know if this is something on the moons end to fix?

[rustic pine]

it should be getting placed on navmesh

maybe you have props that disappear after navmesh is baked?

unsure

[cedar prawn]

that is what i thought

navmesh looks fine in the editor and enemies dont have problems there either

[rustic pine]

if you have the moon and position, i can take a look maybe

[cedar prawn]

it happened on the moon tenebrous within the yellow circled area (the blue line is the main entrance)

only thing i suspect is the puddles somehow having navmesh in game despite not having any in editor

i know there is some weirdness with navmesh generation but as far as i know everything outside the moons environment gets ignored

[rustic pine]

yea

[cedar prawn]

if that isnt the case in game then it is that

but even then they seem to float a bit too much

[pastel lynx]

I noticed something on Borealis, the grass in there doesn't have the "fade out" of the grass when you're near it

[cedar prawn]

the grass still uses the same shader as before

the fade out is something the new vanilla shaders have

[pastel lynx]

so it's not possible?

[cedar prawn]

possible but i dont know how difficult it would be

[unique heart]

If you’ve not seen it yet: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1492993062396498080

Could be something to look into

[cedar prawn]

i have

however the old shader also does not look bad

i can try switching them out and see which one looks better or i try to edit the shader to have a similar fading effect to vanillas

[unique heart]

Yeah. Even if you keep what you have I imagine you could import that shader and dissect the fade part (unless you already know how to do it, unlike me)

[cedar prawn]

no sadly i am not very experienced with shader stuff

[cedar prawn]

it probably isnt too difficult but i dont want to deal with that rn

[unique heart]

Oh wow

[pastel lynx]

wow

[cedar prawn]

i want to make sure the moons are working correctly first

i can try reaching out to someone with more shader experience

because rn i dont even know where to start

[unique heart]

this energy shield is the only custom shader I think I've ever made. It just kind of does that little bit of noise and slowly scrolls the texture across. That was difficult enough to make. No idea what is going on in that image

[cedar prawn]

same xd

i think the shader just has a lot of stuff going on already

[cedar prawn]

i did not know calamitous looked like that when it is eclipsed

it makes the moon look frozen so idk if i want to keep this

[pastel lynx]

looks neat, but it's up to you.

[cedar prawn]

normal and more red eclipsed as comparison

[tawdry citrus]

its supposed to look cold and frozen

the moon is meant to have no atmosphere and is being cooked by the sun

so when its eclipsed everything is meant to get insanely cold

[tepid pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326679560795848845/1487845197860704316/200_15.gif

so fucking peak'

i love realistic ideas that translate well!!

[tawdry citrus]

and about the no atmosphere thing

yes the moon has clouds in the skybox

ignore that

it just looks cool

[tepid pawn]

true

i need to make planet plubar and it rains diamonds

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[tawdry citrus]

oh also @cedar prawn can i request some things done with boreal?

if possible, i would like the Feiopar to spawn on boreal

and also facility should be the main interior since it was designed for that, with the facility tiles being used outside

[pastel lynx]

I don't want to be the possible bringer of bad news.
But AFAIK It's kinda hard to make feiopards climb custom trees

[tawdry citrus]

i kinda assumed that

[pastel lynx]

I may (and most posible am) wrong, or there is a way.
but I've seen other custom moons struggle with that

@proper marsh by any chance do you know?

or @tepid pawn .
I know you 2 made moons that has feiopards in it

[tepid pawn]

WRONG its actually not too bad

lemme find my guidelines

[pastel lynx]

I KNEW IT
(that's good)

[pastel lynx]

Luckily I was wrong, it's not that hard lol

sorry

[tepid pawn]

Ive noticed some important stuff for feiopar support.

-you need a collider, preferrably cylinder collider that MUST be tagged as Tree and Terrain. It should reach the base of the tree and near the top.

-its best to keep the collider on the top part of the tree's heirarchy

-IMPORTANT: if ANY of your tree colliders in your scene are tagged as tree and terrain but are IMPOSSIBLE to navigate to, the feiopar will get infinitely stuck if trying to navigate to said tree. All OOB trees must not be tagged for feiopar support, otherwise theres a chance they will just break for the rest of the match. Navmesh should always connect to compatible trees.

-NOTE - Trees submerged in water will not be considered for climbing, but can still be leapt to, so its ok if navmesh doesnt reach them.

-if you need to make a tree non compatible (OOB) set its tag to wood!

[pastel lynx]

I assumed it cuz of Starlander and Skelaah

Sometimes I'm happy to be wrong on things :]

[tawdry citrus]

oh also

while atapono02 is working on restoring the old stuff im prob just gonna get back to working on the tenebrous remake

[pastel lynx]

also Hello Stella, I'm happy to see you again :]
I've been kinda busy with a lot of things the last time I saw you remaking Tenebrous, it was looking good

[tawdry citrus]

a big reason why i left is cuz i left discord

i really disagree with changes discord has been pushing

and i think everyone should eventually leave discord

[tepid pawn]

sadly i think its too engrained atp 😔 wish it was easy to swap

[tawdry citrus]

and i only ever checked discord anymore for deadlock patch notes

lol

[pastel lynx]

I use the modded cord
I disagree with a lot of things on there, so I don't support it directly

[pastel lynx]

but this practically :,]

[tired crown]

There is no good alternative right now

Fluxer is unfortunately AI Slop and has inconsistent rules about LLM usage

[tawdry citrus]

matrix clients like element are better to use for personal chats between friends and stuff

you can run communities there too but its obviously not as good as discord because it wasnt made exclusively for that like discord was

[tired crown]

I mean I fucking hate Discord but trying to convince everyone to move to smth like that will be hard

Just have to wait for a viable alternative

[tawdry citrus]

https://element.io/en

this is worth looking into

at least for personal texting stuff between friends

[tired crown]

I've already heard about it but I just don't consider it worth it

Not for replacing Discord anyways

[tawdry citrus]

if it doesnt work for you, thats fine

i use it and its provided everything i needed

its also nice knowing that every message i send to my friends and partners isnt being recorded by a giant corporation trying to sell my data

lol

[nimble fox]

unfortunate abt fluxer, it was promising a lot

i did some more digging and found an unreleased one called Polyphony, so i'll be keeping track of that

[pastel lynx]

There are good alternatives, but as Lunx said, It'd be a pain to make your friends change to that