Luna's Moons

[desert forge]

Looks nice!

[toxic turtle]

Great great asset!

[desert forge]

frfr

[tawdry citrus]

early stages

but am working on a moon

[round gulch]

Let's gooo

[gritty fog]

i might actually use these on hydro

i fw these

[tawdry citrus]

:3

[tired crown]

I would ask you to update your moons before tomorrow but that would be the biggest speedrun in history for a moons update probably

XD

[gritty fog]

you dont know me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1025087337681653851/1125572195133952131/caption.gif

[tired crown]

I mean you'll be playing tomorrow at least

:3

[tawdry citrus]

Oh btw

Quick update about my new moon

It'll be done by tonight, but won't be uploaded yet

Cuz I'm gonna take some extra time to make sure there's no problems

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-good-metaphantom53-jjba-darby-gif-14091495

[snow kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-gif-19081723

[tawdry citrus]

hai

@snow kindle wanna dm about the moon i'm working on?

i'd like your input but i dont wanna share everything to the whole thread

[tired crown]

s1ckboy needs to update his own moon

I want it before stream tomorrow

😦

[snow kindle]

Im drunk right now but you can send me anything in dms and I’ll get back to you tomorrow

[tawdry citrus]

alr, lol

[tired crown]

Bruh lol

[tawdry citrus]

@tired crown question

what are you looking for in a moon that you enjoy playing on?

[tired crown]

That's really difficult for me to answer in words for some reason

I can't think of the words to put together to answer your question

😂

I guess more Vanilla styled moons is good

We don't have enough of those

[tawdry citrus]

can someone pin this?

[tired crown]

you can

[tawdry citrus]

i tried

the command wasnt working

[tired crown]

use /jeb pin then paste the message link into it

[tawdry citrus]

did that like 5 times

lol

[tired crown]

Do it better

XD

Maybe jeb is sleeping idk

lol

[tired crown]

Jeb is sleeping

you need to feed him scrap

[tawdry citrus]

guh

[toxic turtle]

So true bestie,, guh indeed

[tawdry citrus]

Luna's Moons!

Not the one that said this, don't bother me about it

[red umbra]

call the pack Skibidi Moons

[tawdry citrus]

How to ban someone from discord thread/j

[desert forge]

This reminds me of a meme I saw yesterday oml

[red umbra]

Hah!

[desert forge]

I did it

And it took me a few seconds

And I like screamed out “NO!!!”

[red umbra]

What the sigma?

[desert forge]

I fell for one of the classic blunders. :c

[tired crown]

You can't use the name Luna it's too close to our name lol

[desert forge]

we gatekeeping names now let’s gooooooo

[blissful gorge]

yeah I think we're gonna have a problem then

[tawdry citrus]

You're gonna have to change yours then

[tired crown]

No cus we've had our name first and we use it everywhere online

lol

[tawdry citrus]

Lol

Not changing my name tho

Luna is my name

[desert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[blissful gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/flaker-sonic-flaker-i-found-you-flaker-gif-13224793614773539385

[desert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-faker-hedgehog-gif-26055337

[tawdry citrus]

Just to clarify, you aren't serious about that. Right?

[tired crown]

Not really but it might get confusing sometimes cus a lot of people refer to us as Luna lol

[rotund tree]

Some people think I named myself after JavaScript, it happens

[tawdry citrus]

Oh ok, glad you weren't serious

[tawdry citrus]

the boring part

(no climbing the walls)

[normal nymph]

more please 🙏

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

[normal nymph]

i like moon goodness 🙂

[tawdry citrus]

alr so, gonna be done soon

i'm gonna upload the working version of it

and i'll do optimization later

its gonna be a bit big

[desert forge]

\o/

[tawdry citrus]

but i'm gonna work on that after getting it out

[snow kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-bongo-cat-triggered-tapping-gif-17793967

[tawdry citrus]

the optimization man has arrived

[toxic turtle]

How much space does the moon take up Luna?

[tawdry citrus]

a decent bit rn

over 100mb

[snow kindle]

I can help you with it this weekend

perhaps tomorrow, we'll see

[tawdry citrus]

any help at all would be greatly appreciated, you arent required to help

[snow kindle]

I'll let you know when I'm free ^^ I'll gladly help you out

[tawdry citrus]

does anyone know how to fix this?

terrain lighting being dif for objects

[tawdry citrus]

will be uploading soon

[tawdry citrus]

guess who is currently uploading something that actually works for the first time in months

[dapper plover]

Not me

[tawdry citrus]

me

lol

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LustrousLuna/Lunar_Lights/

[tawdry citrus]

<@&1264305793440681984> pls pin, jeb isnt working

[desert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[desert forge]

Congrats!!

[tawdry citrus]

lol

thanks

[slim fern]

I will try but I don't think I can pin in here, we use jeb too, we just can pin in the dev channels

[tawdry citrus]

oh ok

[slim fern]

Yeah jeb is bugged atm

[tawdry citrus]

any idea why?

[slim fern]

Nop

[tawdry citrus]

guh

just edited the top pin

[dapper plover]

Bro that’s dumb thy should just give u guys pinning rights

Screen shots? Pro favor

[tawdry citrus]

hm?

[dapper plover]

Pro

[dapper plover]

Having a stroke

Asking if there screenshots

[tawdry citrus]

oh

[dapper plover]

Ah there we go

[tawdry citrus]

of the new moon?

i'll get some

heres an earlier slightly outdated screeshot from while i was making it

the one i used in the main image for it

[normal nymph]

ill be sure to take a peak once it hits r2

[tawdry citrus]

got some

[near seal]

This is looking really good. Excited to try it with my friend group after it's simmere a little bit more

[pastel lynx]

I see some ogopogo spots right there :]

[blissful gorge]

dang that shit looks good!!!

[tawdry citrus]

oh?

[tawdry citrus]

is that a good or bad thing?

[pastel lynx]

it's good

[blissful gorge]

as in the moon looks super good

lol

[blissful gorge]

don't let the water fool ya, it might not be set up in a way that allows it to work properly

[pastel lynx]

ik, but it's not bad doing a test

[blissful gorge]

your best bet is to check with freecam if there's too much water inside the ground or if the waters too shallow

[blissful gorge]

yah

[dapper plover]

Looks Intrestimf

[pastel lynx]

Really cool moon from my experience!

[normal nymph]

landed, gave all exits a try, jumped around, left. only thing i noticed is some invisible colliders walling off some of the cliffsides. despite this sounding bad, this is actually good imo. it keeps people from wandering into forbidden territories.
really good return 😄

ill probly make an icon tomorrow or so. brain is the big dumdum rn

[tired crown]

@tawdry citrus Just so you know we'll check out the moon next time we play we're too tired to check them out tonight lol

[tawdry citrus]

yeah, i spent a lot of time making sure you couldnt just climb all the walls

[solid bough]

banger moon

[tired crown]

@tawdry citrus Actually we're gonna add it now and check it out :3

You better optimize the size after tonight btw

173.1 mb is crazy

[tawdry citrus]

i'm going to

sick already said he'd help when he has time

[tawdry citrus]

no u

[tawdry citrus]

oh awesome

[solid bough]

we are going on this moon rn

on the stream

[tawdry citrus]

i'm gonna look

[tawdry citrus]

Map with routes

[tawdry citrus]

i'm adding a ceiling to the map, and a lore reason for it

[gritty fog]

Screenshots ?

https://tenor.com/view/lunaistabby-cat-silly-gif-18412871428528214483

[gritty fog]

Ough

You should add these to the mod page

/readme

[tawdry citrus]

i dunno how

[gritty fog]

I can tell you when it’s not 5:31 am

My ass just got in bed 😭

Hopefully I don’t forget

[solid bough]

use imgur

and in the README.md do something like ![Name](Imgur URL)

and you need to copy the image url with the .png or .jpeg etc at the end

[quasi ledge]

Oh my good lord okay. XD So I read the tag line in the description that says like "V60+ Themed Moons" or something, and I was like

SIXTY MOONS!?!?

[tawdry citrus]

lol

some day/j

[toxic turtle]

No milk in lunar lights

[quasi ledge]

\jk. UNLESS..

[tawdry citrus]

Sooo

Now that the moon's been out for a bit

Feedback?

[tired crown]

I've removed it til the optimization update but I liked it, not too sure how I feel about your decision to not like people using Jetpacks though

[blissful gorge]

Yeah I saw you adding those invisible colliders and I was... not sure what to think of it

I don't see much of an issue with people climbing up on areas they're not "supposed to" unless they're going OoB and getting softlocked

[normal nymph]

personally indifferent to the jetpack ceiling. i know some who'd prefer it werent there tho

[blissful gorge]

oh wait I was talking about the purple stuff here #1263283058266603644 message

there's a jetpack ceiling too???

[normal nymph]

yeh

[blissful gorge]

😬 imnotamoon/leveldesignersoIcan'tjudgeandthey'refreetodesignithowevertheywantbutmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[tawdry citrus]

i dont want it cuz it'd completely break the flow of the moon

its not like the vanilla moons

where theres like 2 places to get out of the map with complicated jumps

its like

litererally everywhere would be basically stairs

and the ceiling is kinda just to say "no jetpack, its too janky"

[blissful gorge]

I think you're limiting the replayability of your moon by p much eliminating a certain playstyle, even moreso in such an artificial way

buut you can do what you want, I ain't your dad LOL

[tawdry citrus]

i'll think about it

[tired crown]

It's a vanilla friendly styled moon and Jetpack gameplay was fine imo

So when you did the update that removed it I went "Why?"

[tawdry citrus]

i'll remove the ceiling

[blissful gorge]

about the invis walls, I think a better way to achieve that would be to just place walls that prevent the player from going OOB instead of just placing em around the edges of the hills/mountains, it would feel a little bit more organic that way I guess?

[tired crown]

I agree

[tawdry citrus]

one problem tho

there would be zero outside threat on the moon

if there wasnt something keeping you off the walls

cuz if something was coming for you, you can just climb the wall and be fine

[blissful gorge]

mainly these ones right here I see not much of a reason for blockin out

[blissful gorge]

what's the outside spawns for the moon like?

[tawdry citrus]

occasional giant, worms, and dogs

all 3 of those things are completely countered by just getting on the wall

[blissful gorge]

wouldn't you just be able to put navmesh on the hills to allow giants to get there?

[tawdry citrus]

lol

[blissful gorge]

I don't really get how that works but from what I've seen it could, right?

[blissful gorge]

while this may not be possible, keep in mind you'll have to get off the walls at one point, so giants aren't completely countered by hopping on the walls

giants won't wander away as long as they've still got line of sight n stuff

[untold thorn]

tbf vanilla moons are entirely invalidated by the jetpack

vanilla tends to just not care or consider this much of an issue

[tawdry citrus]

if you get high enough up they cant see you and will leave

so its just a

climb up and wait

situation

and the only way to fix that issue

would be to add nav mesh links to every single little ledge on the cliffs

[blissful gorge]

well, artifice has warehouses you can hide in, same with rend; they're used in this same way and I would say take a lot less skill

is the moon supposed to be uber difficult or just medium difficulty?

[tawdry citrus]

medium

and the cliff climing turns that from medium to easy

because its like

if you had a warehouse to hide in that was always following you

so you never have to worry about anything at all

[untold thorn]

is this not the same as adamance p much

[blissful gorge]

nah that one requires a key

[untold thorn]

nono

adamance has hills around the edge you can walk on

[tawdry citrus]

thats dif

[blissful gorge]

yeah but that's not between the commute from ship to an entrance, that's just kind of back there, and serves no gameplay purpose really

[tawdry citrus]

i'm gonna make the cliff blockers more height accurate so you wont just fly into nothing as often

with the jetpack

and remove the ceiling

expect jank with the jetpack

[untold thorn]

howso

[blissful gorge]

yeah that's an alright compromise

still think maybe making the hills just harder to climb on would be a pretty cool idea (or just making more enemies spawn)

is the collission of the cliffs 100% accurate to what they look like?

[tawdry citrus]

yes

thats why i have walls covering it up

[blissful gorge]

yeah that's probably the problem lol

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

and the fix is covering the stuff up

[blissful gorge]

as long as you make em a little bit more accurate to what they look like it's all good

not a fan of the big invisible wall, think of it like extending the collission of the cliff

[tawdry citrus]

it was tedious to make the wall

[blissful gorge]

looks a lot better yeah

[tawdry citrus]

making the collisions follow all the lil details of the cliffs would take at the very least over an hour

and i'd throw my computer out the window before doing that

[tawdry citrus]

prob up to 4 hours depending on how much effort i put into that

[sage vault]

I'm indifferent on it, I get the intent but I do agree an invisible ceiling is going to just make people angry

because the jetpack is really glitchy and they'll just assume it bugged out

I'll have to try the moon later to see how the walls are

Zeekers generally just doesn't even try to exploit-proof stuff

[lyric copper]

wuh
why the walls of colliders

[tawdry citrus]

cuz you can climb them if they arent there

and its not like

wonky collisions that dont look climbable but are in 1 or 2 spots

its like

it looks climbable literally everywhere

and it is climbable everywhere

[lyric copper]

I mean
If it's a hill
Most people won't climb it
That.. looks.. unnecessary
And painful.. lmao

[autumn spear]

thats so many baby gates

[tawdry citrus]

would you all rather slight jank like this

with colliders sticking out in spots

okay, i'm doing a weird mix of both solutions

i set all the colliders to convex

so they arent accurate to the actual models

and arent able to be walked on

and in areas where its important to have more accurate collisions on the bottom

i'm turning convex off

and using blockers

this should be a less jank solution

[blissful gorge]

niice

that's great stuff

[tawdry citrus]

its functionally not much different

just for jetpacks and stuff, it'll be less jank

[tawdry citrus]

That'll probably be the last change I do

Until the optimization update

[dapper plover]

What’s the size of the mod rn/?

[tired crown]

173mb

lol

[dapper plover]

Hot damn

That should def be priority

[normal nymph]

keep up the great work, fren

[snow kindle]

@tawdry citrus wanna do optimizations?

[tawdry citrus]

i mean, its almost 5am for me rn

[snow kindle]

oh oof 😅

[tawdry citrus]

what time is it for you?

[snow kindle]

almost 12:00

11:48 am

[tawdry citrus]

oh ok

any time you think might work for both of us?

[snow kindle]

6 hours difference, we could probably do it at like... 10pm for me, 4pm for you

I might be able to help you later too, but it depends on a couple of irl stuff

[round gulch]

Just asking are you going to revive your older moons?

Because they where fire

[tawdry citrus]

no, i could remake them at some point tho

[round gulch]

It would be really cool

[tawdry citrus]

i'll let you all help decide

just so you all know

it wont be the same

as im not the person who made those 3 moons

they'll have a bit of the luna flair to them, rather than just being updated copies

[autumn spear]

its that or you repackage the current version to use 1.0.4 boreal and 1.0.5 destitute/verdance. .5 boreal still redlogs and .4 destitute's fog is broken.

[tawdry citrus]

i'd rather make new versions, and i think you'd all rather it as well

[round gulch]

Similar but with a twist

[autumn spear]

id rather you commit but if you cant, i just suggested an alternative.

[untold thorn]

i think itd be good to keep the core identity of the moon at the very least

i liked verdance n how small/simple it was

[untold thorn]

while youre here btw would you mind me making a lil suggestion for Dirge (i couldn't find an altmoons thread ;-;)

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

[autumn spear]

just dm me if you wanna suggest anything, would rather keep it out of another mooner's thread at the very least

[untold thorn]

yeye makes sense, my bad x_x

[autumn spear]

its nbd!

id rather you ask anyway

[blissful gorge]

oh yeah, you should make a thread @autumn spear

I wanna gas up your shit

[autumn spear]

ill do it when i drop pelagia, so likely over the weekend. im really REALLY bad with social interaction so its been the least appealing thing ever, but im starting to think i need it...................

[blissful gorge]

aww that's alright! I mean you don't gotta make a thread if you don't wanna

[untold thorn]

could always make a thread and just not check it all the time

[blissful gorge]

but it's a good place for feedback! as long as you're comfortable w having one it's all good, but again you're not obligated to :]

[tawdry citrus]

@snow kindle would you wanna like, schedule a time and day that'd work for both of us?

[snow kindle]

yeah we can ^^

[tawdry citrus]

Wanna pitch some times and days that you'd be available?

[snow kindle]

I'm pretty sure I'd be available most of the times. Send me a msg whenever you'd like to and we can totally do it. Next week is quite free for me except for wednesday

[tawdry citrus]

Oh okay

[small jewel]

erm

what the sigma

[merry ridge]

wow

imagine

[blissful gorge]

wuh oh

[marble basin]

This is the flavour of industrial aesthetics I don't see often and I love it
A glimpse of it can be seen in your previous works too so this one's an instant download for me

[small jewel]

Yeah I'm not sure why but all the cliff walls on this moon are pink for me

[tawdry citrus]

Glad you like it

[toxic turtle]

NONO THE PINK WAS REAL

[tawdry citrus]

nuh uh

never happened

are you sure you werent just dreaming about it?

[toxic turtle]

I'm very sure, you can't screenshot dreams

[tawdry citrus]

lol

@snow kindle <t:1726608600> would this time work?

(i hope i used that correctly)

[grave ibex]

quick question

is the magenta light of god opposing me from reaching heights i yearn to reach

supposed to be visible to the mortal eye

wait scratch that new update

The pink isnt real, it didnt happen.

[tired crown]

Nah always remind them of the pink

Just like Wesley is always reminded of cubes

[grave ibex]

The pink isnt real, it didnt happen.

[tired crown]

It did happen

[lyric copper]

[tawdry citrus]

there was never pink

your eyes are lying

your brain cant be trusted

it lies too

[tired crown]

I would never lie :3

[tawdry citrus]

you're not lying

but your brain and eyes are

they're lying to you

dont trust them

[tired crown]

You're not very good at this

🤭

Just accept that there was pink

[tawdry citrus]

but there wasnt any

[tired crown]

If you accept it the pink can't hurt you

[tawdry citrus]

there was never pink and you know it

[tired crown]

It can only hurt you if you live in denial

https://tenor.com/view/pink-color-pink-gif-26141074

[tawdry citrus]

you're the one in denial

[tired crown]

picture is proof 🤭

[tired crown]

And this one

[tawdry citrus]

ai generated

[grave ibex]

The pink

isnt real, it didnt happen.

also god DAMN the moon is good

i actually love the environment

the entrance is clear to get to, same with any fire exits

[tawdry citrus]

Thanksss!

[tired crown]

It just needs to be optimized

173mb is so much

[tawdry citrus]

Yes it does

That's the next thing I'm hoping to fix

And I'll work on remaking Verdance after that

But for now, the focus is gonna be optimizing the moon with s1ckboy's help

[dapper plover]

my moons are also pretty unopimized too, it was like 50 mb, but how the heck do you get to 173 mb on one moon?

[grave ibex]

oooooooooohhhh

yall

yall are getting below 250???

[dapper plover]

bro tf

[grave ibex]

i will not lie i might need to optimize

[dapper plover]

are u using 4k textures or something

did u already make ur moon

and release it

[grave ibex]

well, i'm makING it

it's not done, but

556 mb

probably

isnt the best

[dapper plover]

WAHAAAT

not even s1ckboy can save u

[grave ibex]

i'll figure something out

i just have to win

[dapper plover]

at most, it should be like 60

mb

[grave ibex]

60?????

[dapper plover]

yes

[grave ibex]

how tf

[autumn spear]

bro my moons are under 20

per

[dapper plover]

and thats rare, only big moons like black mesa

on it really should be 20-35ish I think

500 is crazy thoo

[grave ibex]

dude if that aint a flat plane with a main entrance door thats thin as paper

then i can not believe you

[autumn spear]

dirge is 15mb

only reason one of my moons is 25 is cause i started trying out non-vanilla assets

[grave ibex]

uhh

okay so what if yours is

theoretically

[autumn spear]

and also havent taken the time to go back and recompress

[grave ibex]

all non-vanilla assets

[dapper plover]

no dude

[grave ibex]

not a single one

[dapper plover]

thats a you problem

500 mb

15mb is very normal

[tawdry citrus]

How do you get 500mb

[grave ibex]

that's a great question

i

cannot answer that at this time

[tawdry citrus]

What have you done???

[dapper plover]

show me ur asset bundle asset list

[grave ibex]

hold on

[tawdry citrus]

My optimization is non existent

And it's not even half that

[grave ibex]

wait

oh

ohh okay okay okay

okay good news yall

it's not 500

bad news

it dont make it any better

[dapper plover]

okay so its not 500 mb

[tawdry citrus]

Prob a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be there, and potentially too detailed textures

[dapper plover]

its 200 mb

250

[grave ibex]

okay so it's half

that's

that's lightweight right that sounds lightweight

[dapper plover]

still way to big

even half of that is way to big

and half of that half is still pretty large

[grave ibex]

like okay

if i'm being serious

i might know why

[grave ibex]

i

forgot to continue my sentence

[tawdry citrus]

Lol

Moment

[grave ibex]

okay but yeah i might know why

it's probably all the textures

the models are fine, i specifically went to find some that are like

max 5K tris

and they dont even reach that limit

[analog gulch]

im gonna be honest optimization has never been an issue for me. probably because i mainly use vanilla stuff, but

[subtle falcon]

check pins of moons if you wanna

like this one

#dev-moons message

[analog gulch]

yep this is what i used. great place to start

generally a really easy way to cut down on stuff is to go into the assetbundle browser, sort by size and try to compress, replace or remove anything that's at or near the top of the list

[grave ibex]

ahh

there it is

i was tryna find out where that was

i assumed it would be in the moon optimization thread but no it was in the pins

alr thanks

[snow kindle]

I think it could work, I’ll msg you later tho

[tawdry citrus]

alr

[tawdry citrus]

Moon fixed, it's not 200mb anymore

It's around 70 now

[normal nymph]

[tawdry citrus]

[normal nymph]

ok, i know it's actually a lower jaw, but that emote looks like that cat has its mouth open wide enough to fit that apple, and the lower jaw is the upper row of teeth

[tawdry citrus]

i dont see it

lol

[tired crown]

I don't see that tbh

[tawdry citrus]

mood

[twilit wigeon]

The moon isn't geting registered by LLL for some reason :(

[normal nymph]

latest version?

[twilit wigeon]

yessir

[tawdry citrus]

trying to fix rn

i dont know what the cause is

[twilit wigeon]

Alrighty, take care!

[pastel lynx]

yup, I saw this

[tawdry citrus]

ohhh

yeah

i have a fix

thats a very useful log

thank you

[near seal]

🙂

[snow kindle]

Well there goes the test lmao

[tawdry citrus]

yup

[tawdry citrus]

Who up rn that liked the original verdance

I have plans I wanna pitch to you all

[normal nymph]

og Verdance was nice, but of course im open to options

[wild venture]

company cruiser is not possible to use on OG verdance but other then that its a solid moon

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/rickandmorty-showme-gif-7658980

[tawdry citrus]

Old map layout

New plans, with arrows drawn to show path to fire

Very rough, cuz I just wanted to get ideas out on something

[normal nymph]

so a longer path to fire?

[tawdry citrus]

Yes

[normal nymph]

or something?

nice

[autumn spear]

youre shifting the FE up a layer and blending the side path into the path to FE

will fire exit shutter switch still be by main?

[tawdry citrus]

That's not being added

The lock was a bandaid fix to the problem the layout change is fixing

[tawdry citrus]

Yes

[untold thorn]

i rly like this

[tawdry citrus]

Awesome

[untold thorn]

good change

honestly fixes the only problem i really had with the moon

[autumn spear]

im lukewarm on it but id rather give feedback after playing it then judge it based on a flowmap

[normal nymph]

it seems the court of (NA Midnight hours) has spoken

[untold thorn]

as long as the path to main is still short

[tawdry citrus]

It's gonna be an overhang like this, but done differently so it actually works with unity lol

[untold thorn]

overhangs dont work ?

[autumn spear]

mmm terrain

[untold thorn]

idk anything abt this stuff

[normal nymph]

exactly like that woah 😮
(/j)

[tawdry citrus]

I'm gonna do it with a separate terrain piece and rock meshes

[tawdry citrus]

It was the main issue with the moon

[tawdry citrus]

That'll be unchanged

[untold thorn]

sick

[near seal]

reminds me of

[untold thorn]

good stuff

[autumn spear]

will it still have the large tree.

[tawdry citrus]

Trees*

And yes

Those were part of the identity of the map

[autumn spear]

there was one particularly large tree next to ship

[tawdry citrus]

Mhm

[autumn spear]

that boyo

[tawdry citrus]

That's staying

[autumn spear]

awesome.

[tawdry citrus]

There's gonna be 3

Just like original verdance

[normal nymph]

hmm, may need to redo the icon then. nothin wrong with that tho. im fine redoing for frens

[tawdry citrus]

It's gonna basically be an entirely different moon

[normal nymph]

lookin forward

[tawdry citrus]

Best way to explain these is as sequels

Lol

[normal nymph]

nah, remakes with bonus content

[tawdry citrus]

But like, verdance is the only one getting a significant change

So yeah

[autumn spear]

so its mostly just visual then?

or not even that

[tawdry citrus]

Yes that

[autumn spear]

ok neat

[tawdry citrus]

Think

[autumn spear]

refined boreal kinda tastey ngl

[tawdry citrus]

Mixing my latest moon with the other 3 from before

[normal nymph]

Boreal definitely has my attention most. love when interior platforming is used for the exterior

[tired crown]

I hope to see Boreal without error spam or bugs

[autumn spear]

i mean youve got that oddly distinct halo forge-esque style, would be cool to see it more realized w repasses over the og 3

[tired crown]

lol

[tawdry citrus]

Cuz Incalescence is the best representation of my own personal style

[normal nymph]

thatll always come with a new moon, lunx.

[tired crown]

No no

Boreal broke harder when Stella tried to fix it

[tawdry citrus]

If Incalescence doesn't have it, neither will boreal 2

[normal nymph]

mmmmmk

[tawdry citrus]

The release and after release plan

Is just

Make the moon, get it stable

And then bugfixes

And after that, optimization

I'll be releasing moons separately for that reason

Until they've been optimized

And then they'll go into the moon bundle

[tired crown]

I mean tbf, you can make sure the assets are optimized from the get go

[tawdry citrus]

I'll be moving forward from a better starting point now

Since I'm not gonna use a stripped vanilla moon for the next moons

I'll be using a stripped copy of Incalescence

Because it's stable and acceptably optimized

And has everything I need already there

Buuuuttt

I still wanna put things out separate first

Cuz there's always gonna be at least some cleanup needed

That "style of release" worked

So I don't wanna change it

[tawdry citrus]

2 things I wanna mention

Verdance is getting a major layout change

Boreal is getting the biggest aesthetic change

It'll be better tho

I promise

Destitute is getting a bit of both

[autumn spear]

being a destitute enjoyer i dont mind it getting just better overall lol

the lil blood trail is still funny to me.

[tawdry citrus]

He fell

[autumn spear]

smfh......... interns

[tawdry citrus]

Lol

That'll probably stay

But yeah

Boreal had one problem

There was too much separation with the aesthetic stuff

It felt like 2 separate maps mashed together in spots

[autumn spear]

kinda? the barn hangars were odd but i liked the facility tiles being used as outside decoration. been meaning to get around to using that style but its intimidating to get right

i think thats what shined on boreal imo

[normal nymph]

^

[tawdry citrus]

Those were literally the identity of boreal

So those aren't going anywhere

[normal nymph]

thank you ^^

[autumn spear]

the fire exits separated by that interior walkway tile was really neat

[tawdry citrus]

It was a giant trap, incase you didn't know that

[autumn spear]

i didnt think those were going anywhere, they seem kinda integral to the visual identity of boreal, im just curious where you think youd take it in addition to that aesthetic

[autumn spear]

xplain

[tawdry citrus]

Giants couldn't follow you through

[autumn spear]

oh it was a GIANT trap, not Giant Trap

[tawdry citrus]

Yes

[autumn spear]

ok

yea that makes sense

[tawdry citrus]

The purpose was to lead them there

So they'd be out of the way in the back of the map

On your way to ship

[autumn spear]

thats such an odd thing but i kinda dig that, never really put that together

[tawdry citrus]

It was a very open map

[autumn spear]

oh very

[tawdry citrus]

For giants definitely

So that's why spots like that existed

Anyways

[autumn spear]

im just here 2 pick ur brain

[tawdry citrus]

There's gonna be a lot to see in the next few weeks

I'll probably start working on verdance tomorrow

[normal nymph]

[tawdry citrus]

Hmm?

[normal nymph]

lookin forward

[tawdry citrus]

I'd hope so

Your eyes are on the front of your face for a reason

[normal nymph]

[tawdry citrus]

Lol

Anywaysssss

Final opinions on this new layout

[near seal]

cant know without proper testing

[tawdry citrus]

Did you ever test the original verdance?

[near seal]

not personally no

[autumn spear]

im only stuck on the fe route being a lil wonky, i might like it in gameplay but im not 100% sold on the flow of that side path ig

i also rarely took that side path unless there were bees or vains

[tawdry citrus]

It basically does exactly what the locked door did

[autumn spear]

so might mix it up. dunno.

[tawdry citrus]

That's also the point

[autumn spear]

yea i see the vision

[tawdry citrus]

That path needed a purpose

[autumn spear]

the upside to remaking it is you can always change it in the future if it doesnt work so. whatever

thems my onions

[tawdry citrus]

I'd just like to get this change set for what people want

Cuz it's a very major change

Not something that can be easily changed afterwards

[autumn spear]

i think the entire overhang and fire exit shifting up is fine

its just the visuals on this drawing of the side path itself

again, would probably feel fine in game

[tawdry citrus]

Oh yeah, that's a really inaccurate sketch

That's just to get the general layout drawn

[autumn spear]

ye

either way, i trust youve got it. your previous maps flow well enough that it shouldnt take much to refine it

[tawdry citrus]

I'm just hoping I can live up to the expectations of the remakes

Cuz I am kinda hyping them up

[autumn spear]

the only thing im really holding you to is getting them done at All lol

[tawdry citrus]

It was multiple months of nothing functional

[normal nymph]

even if they were just rereleases from salvaged files, id be happy

[tawdry citrus]

I wanna make something better than that

And I wanna give you guys something better

[normal nymph]

im sayin i'll be fine with any improvement at all

[tawdry citrus]

Oh ok

<3

I appreciate you all for your support

[normal nymph]

[autumn spear]

[snow kindle]

The original was super vanilla like but I think we can expect a great rework ^^

[dapper plover]

Nah that’s doable with unity terrain

[tawdry citrus]

easier with my method

and would look better

[dapper plover]

Unity terrain would be really easy to

[analog gulch]

unity terrain is based on heightmaps, it doesn't support things that take multiple layers like caves and overhangs

[tawdry citrus]

starting work on Verdance now

[normal nymph]

[round gulch]

Let's gooo

[tawdry citrus]

2 screenshots leftover from old verdance

early Wip of new verdance

[grave ibex]

OOOOOOOHHHH

I REMEMBERRR

[tawdry citrus]

hm?

[grave ibex]

okay i swear i remember that moon

i thought these were just like new moons but i'm pretty sure i recognize that first screenshot

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

[grave ibex]

okay yeah i see

[tawdry citrus]

this is what it'll look like with all the folliage

[normal nymph]

greeeeeeeeen

[tawdry citrus]

hmmm?

[normal nymph]

greeeeeeeeen

[round gulch]

Nice

[tawdry citrus]

theres also some waterfalls in the back of the map

ignore the selection outline

but like

rivers out of bounds were a part of the first verdance

they just werent done right

and werent visible unless you were landing or leaving

so i'm making water a feature of Verdance

thats actually visible

[snow kindle]

If you want to make it Ogopogo compatible, let me know

[normal nymph]

Ogo stretches from the waterfall :3

[tawdry citrus]

it isnt super deep water

so i dont think it'd work

[snow kindle]

Oh well maybe a next moon then :p

[tawdry citrus]

Boreal

Boreal had a giant lake

lol

[grave ibex]

actually, hol up

i might need this

honestly both that and optimizations my moon is like 250mb+

and i was told like 25mb's the average

[snow kindle]

We can talk tomorrow (well today now lol its 1 am for me)

[grave ibex]

rightt forgot time zones existed

[snow kindle]

Average is usually at 60-70

[normal nymph]

time... zones?

[snow kindle]

I do have a couple of moons at 30mbs (idfk how i did that) but they are also not finished yet

[grave ibex]

yeah there's a lot of stuff i gotta do, but honestly progress is going pretty well

[snow kindle]

If you are under like 80mbs thats a win in my book

[grave ibex]

stuff like LOD's, cruiser destructibles, event triggers, stuff like that i all gotta do

[snow kindle]

LODs help with fps but will increase filesize

Optimization in a nutshell :p

[grave ibex]

yeesh okay

sacrificing one form for the other

hm

i mean mesh compression basically helps with both right?

just set it to high, make sure the quality didn't get destroyed in the process

and it should be good to go

[snow kindle]

Yes but you need to be careful with that.

Just make sure to check how different they are

[grave ibex]

yeah alr cool

i usually just stare straight into the soul of whatever model i'm compressing to make sure not a single thing looks out of place

so that should be fine

[snow kindle]

Also you can decimate / unsubdivide models in blender, its really not a hard thing to do (but you also need to be careful with it)

Just dont use models that have huge amount of verts

[grave ibex]

yeah i have a limit for those

[snow kindle]

Good!

[grave ibex]

i think anything above like 5K-8K tris is like

wayyy to many

[snow kindle]

Like I said if you want help, I can help you tomorrow, helped Luna recently ^^ 170 -> 70 mb

[grave ibex]

alr cool

i kinda just realised i hijacked the thread to talk about optimization oops

[grave ibex]

back to the usual

[toxic turtle]

Can't wait for the pink

[near seal]

@tawdry citrus Photos look goated

love to see people cooking with the heavy vanilla aethstetic but flexing on it

[tawdry citrus]

heres a couple screenshots of current progress

[tawdry citrus]

you can prob see something you'll like

[autumn spear]

that overhang looks so nice. also large tree my beloved

[snow kindle]

@tawdry citrus been messin around with catwalks - Im so happy you didnt merge parts and I can just remove , adjust certain parts to my needs to make them blend well in each other that much better

[tawdry citrus]

was on purpose, wanted people to be able to use them exactly as they need them

[snow kindle]

GOAT

[tawdry citrus]

glad you're finding a use for them

[snow kindle]

You really helped my progress :p I might be able to release my moons in 2040

[normal nymph]

hole confirmed

https://tenor.com/view/car-uh-car-garn47-cat-bounce-gif-8905658433156715392

[tawdry citrus]

wuh

[normal nymph]

hole

[tawdry citrus]

oh yeah

[near seal]

Awesome seeing moon creators help raise the bar for quality

[tawdry citrus]

you guys think verdance 2 is looking better than the first one btw?

[true spade]

Just tried this moon for the first time and its amazing!

[tawdry citrus]

oh, you like Incalescence?

I'm glad

I'm currently working on remaking the first 3 moons i made

i'll prob have one of them out by tomorrow

[dapper plover]

those rock cliffs are differeing heavily from the rest of the envrioment

but other than that

great

[tawdry citrus]

It looks better than it seems from that screenshot

[dapper plover]

bet, also where did u get teh water fall from? did u eventually pay, or us the particle system

[tawdry citrus]

Used particles

[dapper plover]

was it from the video badhamknibbs sent?

[tawdry citrus]

Someone sent a video?

[dapper plover]

it was a while ago

[tawdry citrus]

I just added some particle emmiter things and messed with them until they looked alright

[tawdry citrus]

Then it wasn't me who it was sent to technically

[dapper plover]

oh I see

[tawdry citrus]

getting close to half done

[tired crown]

[tawdry citrus]

heres a lil in editor screenshot

this is like verdance but 20x better

was just in editor testing the vibes throughout the day

i know for a fact you're all gonna like this moon

its around 90mb rn, so it isnt too gigantic

[near seal]

What's making it big rn

[tawdry citrus]

looking into that rn

a lot of it seems to just be textures

[near seal]

What compression settings?

[tawdry citrus]

a couple of them werent compressed, so im fixing that and checking size

it was those

i got it down to 64mb

[near seal]

whats the biggest parts remaining?

[tawdry citrus]

still textures

[near seal]

how big

[tawdry citrus]

lemme double check

this is what the assetbundle manager says

at the top

[near seal]

slide me a compiled bundle 👁️

[tawdry citrus]

the two files i'd upload when uploading the mod?

[near seal]

ya

[tawdry citrus]

whatcha gonna do with them?

[near seal]

What is WaterPlane

[tawdry citrus]

water

[near seal]

be more specific

gimmie some editor context

[tawdry citrus]

this

[near seal]

is it a prefab or something

something is weird about it asset wise

[tawdry citrus]

its this

just a plane with stuff in it to make it water

yes it is a prefab

why?

[near seal]

in compile its being split

Not too sure why

these are pretty big (2048x)

If you convert BigFactoryInside.wav to a 256kbps mp3 you can get it from 21.4mb => 3.57mb

[tawdry citrus]

how do i do that

[ancient portal]

There's a few billion wav to MP3 converter websites, or use something like audacity

[tawdry citrus]

Was wondering if there was a way to do it in unity or not, it was figured out anyways tho

aaaanyways

Verdance might be releasing tomorrow night

We'll see about it

[tawdry citrus]

working on Verdance some more

[desert forge]

\o/

[tawdry citrus]

top of the arch is done

[snow kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-gif-19081723

[tawdry citrus]

hmm?

[toxic turtle]

ah shit, S1ckboy is PISSED

[snow kindle]

Cant wait to play on it ^^

[tawdry citrus]

awesome

oh btw

tysm for helping

if i bundled Verdance and Incalescence together, it'd still be smaller than pre optimization Incalescence.

and the size of verdance shouldnt get much bigger if at all

[snow kindle]

Nice ^^

I'm also going to put up a teaser real soon in my thread 😛

[tawdry citrus]

which thread?

[snow kindle]

in #1238292999969181787 , just need to do a couple of things still before I post it

[tawdry citrus]

oh ok

wasnt sure if you had a dif thread than that one

[marble basin]

wow
I have actually just played on old Verdance and the differences in quality are night and day

[tawdry citrus]

ye

this is the main entrance "hallway"

[marble basin]

😩😩😩😩😩

I was initially skeptical of how you're gonna be able to remake these maps but man you really knocking it out of the park here

[tawdry citrus]

this is what i have leftover to work on

before the moon is done

[tawdry citrus]

doin my best to increase the quality of everything

direct comparison btw

new verdance is a lil bit bigger overall

but the original one was also a little bit too small

[pastel lynx]

I love this

[tawdry citrus]

oh?

[toxic turtle]

Looks great!

[tawdry citrus]

before you ask, no. it wont have milk

[desert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[toxic turtle]

Fine, I'll settle for pink

[tawdry citrus]

alr

all thats left is the boring back path

[tawdry citrus]

Verdance 2 has custom sounds btw

[tired crown]

Not a fan of the knocking sound

[tawdry citrus]

the wat?

[tired crown]

There is a knocking sound that is playing near the end of the video to the right

[tawdry citrus]

pretty sure thats just the vanilla rain sounds

all i added was bird sounds

and the waterfall sounds

[tired crown]

Oh yeah I don't hear it now lol bruh my brain might be playing tricks on me XD

[tawdry citrus]

lol

[tired crown]

"Before you know it Yumi's gonna be talking about how she got locked in a rubber room" - Lyra

[tawdry citrus]

pfft

[tawdry citrus]

the reason for this is cuz i want the environment to feel more alive

and less static

the waterfalls sounds are really nice imo

and because of how i setup the bird sounds

they get quieter to make room for the waterfall sounds

when you get close

[normal nymph]

fire exit behind waterfall? .3.

[tawdry citrus]

death behind waterfall :3

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/kermitthefrog-dance-dancing-goingwild-crazy-gif-5023883256888097815

[tired crown]

Totally didn't just record this cus of Lyra

Totally not

[tawdry citrus]

lol

[tawdry citrus]

heres a lil display of the moon

Map with routes

Map

[pastel lynx]

interesting!!
Will the ||switch|| still be there?

[tawdry citrus]

nope

the switch was a bandaid fix for a problem that was fixed with a layout change in this version

[pastel lynx]

ahh, I liked it :,]
but understandable

[tawdry citrus]

i think you'll like the new setup better

[pastel lynx]

yeah, I'll have to test it :]

[tawdry citrus]

you should be able to soon

i'm just finishing up the aesthetic stuff in the back section

and then the moon should be ready to be uploaded

[snow kindle]

that looks super interesting

[tawdry citrus]

:3

[tawdry citrus]

its being uploaded now

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LustrousLuna/Lunar_Lights/

updated

[near seal]

Get some screenshots in that 😄

Did you figure out the water plane optimisation thing?

[tawdry citrus]

i dont believe so, but i decided to release it since that prob wasnt gonna lower the file size by much

and i wanted to get it out for everyone

[near seal]

Oh forsure there's an infinite amount of improvement any moon can have dw

but that one should be fairly noticable in the context of optimisation

worth keeping in mind there's kind of two filesizes that matter

one is the filesize of the bundles, because that's how much idle space your mod will take up + how big the download is

the second is the decompressed filesize of the bundle, which is a lot bigger and matters because of how much ram your moon will actively consume

[near seal]

in theory at runtime this would be taking up 80mb more than it needs to

fairly small sauce in the grand scheme of how much ram people have nowadays but pretty big in comparison to how much your moon takes up intentionally

[tawdry citrus]

i'll def look into that

[tired crown]

Readme still says 1 moon

Even though there's 2 now

[tawdry citrus]

readme takes a bit to update

[tired crown]

It updated

You just forgot to change it from 1 Moon to 2 Moons

Lmao

[tawdry citrus]

i see what you mean

[tired crown]

:3

[tawdry citrus]

i did have to make a small update

[dapper plover]

idk why this reminds of hxh

[tawdry citrus]

whats up?

[dapper plover]

im saying this reminds me of hunter hunter for some reason

[peak quest]

Oh! I was about to bring up the fact that there are now two modded Verdances, but then I looked here and saw you're the author of the original one, too. XD Almost made myself look dumb... 😛

[tawdry citrus]

pfft

yeah, remade the original

the layout is almost the same as the original

[peak quest]

I'm excited to check it out! Celestial Expansion has been a mainstay with me and my small group! We love those moons. 🙂 I really like their vanilla-esque feel, while also still being unique.

[tawdry citrus]

i'm remaking all 3

[peak quest]

Awesome! Thank you for keeping them going and giving them all a fresh rework! My crew will certainly continue to play the heck outta them.

[tawdry citrus]

:3

buh

log spam is still there

hopefully this is the last update needed tonight

log spam is also preventing enemies from spawning

(they're both the same issue)

[near seal]

what spam

[desert forge]

Taking a guess at the moon risk ratings/price because my memory sucks

Incalescence (B) Free
Verdance (C) Free

[snow kindle]

Incalescence is updated already in the excel Aleck :p

[desert forge]

This is for my own thing shh

[snow kindle]

Oh lol

[desert forge]

I need to get around to recontributing to the excel though

I’ve had a wild like two months