Luna's Moons

[tawdry citrus]

just a lil area im pretty proud of

[rotund tree]

Oh my god that looks so good

[snow kindle]

Verdance review:

• i like the layout, its very vanilla like
• i like the way you setup the fireexit
• i like the textures how the terrain layers are set up
• i’d recommend a little smoothing around the edges
• it might have been a me thing but there were 3 giants once on such a smol moon which is kinda crazy BUT they just didnt seem to see me even when i was on the ship waving and jumping around 🤷‍♂️
• overall i rate the moon a high B, very cool first moon and i definitely have it in my modpack :3

[tawdry citrus]

:3

i can tune down enemy spawns on verdance

since its so small

how does less giants, and more dogs sound?

[snow kindle]

I’ve been on Boreal and Destitude too but i’ll need to go back a couple of times to have a clear picture of them

[tawdry citrus]

destitute needs some work rn

[snow kindle]

Could be good 🤔 what is the powerlevel for outside enemies?

[tawdry citrus]

i dont remember

it should still just be a copy of vow

[snow kindle]

On boreal i noticed several trees have mesh colliders, i’d recommend changing it to capsule colliders

[tawdry citrus]

its actually just a weird way vanilla trees are setup

its a mix of box colliders and a capsule

for some reason they have box colliders on the branches

[snow kindle]

Yeah you should remove those cuz its really janky that way

[tawdry citrus]

i'll work on an update later today to fix destitute, rebalance verdance, and remove the branch colliders on boreal

sound good? :3

[snow kindle]

Great!

[tired crown]

Hey @snow kindle Since you're here

Stella needs help fixing another issue on Boreal

[snow kindle]

Whats that?

[tired crown]

Enemies can't pathfind through this doorway that leads to the main entrance

Masked will gather there, and dogs get stuck guarding outside if aggrod

Maybe you might know how to fix that

[snow kindle]

Is that prefab under Environments?

[tawdry citrus]

yes

[snow kindle]

Also you need every prefab have the read/write ticked in their settings

[tawdry citrus]

wuh?

[snow kindle]

Otherwise the game will throw error saying “when building navmesh xyz was skipped”

[tawdry citrus]

what settings?

[dapper plover]

you made sure to delete everything releated to the interior right? perhaps thats causing issues.

of the prefab

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

[snow kindle]

Click on the prefab 🤔

[tawdry citrus]

i did?

[snow kindle]

It just leads to the same place?

[snow kindle]

This thingy

It might just lead back to the same place idk how it is 😨

[snow kindle]

Uhmm whats in the prefab?

[snow kindle]

As a child object

[snow kindle]

I’ll take a look at this in a sec

On my end

[tawdry citrus]

alr

thanks

[dapper plover]

ah you know waht it is

you need a spawn synced object I thin

think

thats why enemies cant interact with it

[tawdry citrus]

wdym?

also

enemies can

navmesh just doesnt generate between the door and the other side

[snow kindle]

hmm i see

how does the navmesh look like?

i might have an idea

might want to do something like this 🤔

[tawdry citrus]

gap

[tawdry citrus]

dunno how

[snow kindle]

actually no this wouldnt solve your issue

now that i think about it

[tawdry citrus]

hm

what would solve it

is the door starting open

and closing after the navmesh rebake

but i dont know how to program that

[primal minnow]

It would but they will phase through the door

[snow kindle]

yup

thats not ideal

[primal minnow]

Check the door if there is a NavMeshBlocker component on it or in the same area

It's really weird the mesh doesn't even generate there, is this prefab within the Environment object?

[tawdry citrus]

found this

[snow kindle]

That is in DoorMesh - Cube "NavMeshObstacle"

[tawdry citrus]

would removing it fix that?

[primal minnow]

I usually have problems with NavMesh generating in places I don't want 💀
On Arcadia it was generating below the dome

[primal minnow]

Yes

Disable it

And rebake the mesh to see if it helped

But probably this will allow monsters to go through the door too, they won't be able to open it like the interior ones

I haven't made an interior so idk exactly, but there is a thing that spawns on the door during generation that allows monsters to interact with it

Oh actually, have you checked the door of the shack on adamance? does it also block monsters from coming inside?

[tired crown]

The doors on adamance work fine

I've seen dogs barge open the doors and go through them plenty of times, likewise I have seen masked open and walk through them

The same goes for the shack on Artifice

[tawdry citrus]

i found a fix

small gap beneath the door

[primal minnow]

Oh nice, then she can just copy paste them and replace the mesh 🤭

[primal minnow]

They will go through the door as if it's not there this way

[tired crown]

Artifice shack door would be better

Cus it's a metal door

[tawdry citrus]

i'll try that

[tired crown]

c;

[tawdry citrus]

@primal minnow @snow kindle if i take adamance door, how do i make it not locked every time?

[snow kindle]

theres probabily a settings for it

lemme look one sec

[tawdry citrus]

could also just make a key spawn at main too

[snow kindle]

thats true

[primal minnow]

that's also probably true 🤭

I'd check but not home rn

[tawdry citrus]

nav mesh on artifice

goes straight through'

i already figured out why its yellow there

but copying the thing that makes it that way

doesnt make the nav mesh generate underneath either

even copying the door and that doesnt do it

theres just some zeekers magic i cant do apparently

[tawny zodiac]

the doors need to be marked as obstacles but shouldnt have carving enabled

carving compeletely slices a hole in the navmesh and makes it invalid for pathing

you want the enemies to path through but treat the doors as an obstacle until it is opened

as for why the navmesh would be baking without an opening, im not too sure, but it might have to do with layers or navmeshmodifier volumes

it's been a while since i've worked with the new navmesh flow in unity

[tawdry citrus]

how come it doesnt work when i duplicate one thats clearly setup properly?

[tawny zodiac]

honestly it could be just about anything

look at how a vanilla moon sets up all of its NavMeshModifierVolumes

[tawdry citrus]

:3 i love unfixable issues when i have zero idea how to do anything

[tawny zodiac]

and make sure you are marking all your areas correctly

are you building your moons in a lc project patcher unity project

[tawdry citrus]

uh

probably

i followed starlancers tutorial

[tawny zodiac]

im wondering if maybe some setting mismatches the vanilla navmesh baking settings

so it is giving you inaccurate results

[tawdry citrus]

i identically duplicated the stuff from artifice

zero changes

it doesnt do the same thing it does on artifice

it might be fixed

i'll do some bug testing later

it looks like i managed to make it do what i want

[tawdry citrus]

also, horizon is coming along really well and i think you're all gonna like it

its very unique

nothing else really like it in the game

i dont think anyone else has made anything like it either

this time, its prob a stretch to call it vanilla style

but it is my style

and i think it'll fit well in the moon pack

[tired crown]

I like that you named it Horizon and visually it sorta reminds me of the Horizon games from the previews, I almost wanna guess that wasn't a coincidence

[tawdry citrus]

subconsiously, prob a lil

i was just thinking of good names and horizon was the first one i thought of that i really liked

[tired crown]

Speaking of Horizon though we've been trying to get through Forbidden West but the pacing is a bit slow

[tawdry citrus]

i've honestly never played the horizon games

they've always looked super cool tho

map layout

the red stuff is a blockout of unfinished areas

and in the big section of rocks in the back

theres an under the island section

super foggy since its inside the cloud layer

[tawdry citrus]

lookin for help

[tawdry citrus]

i'm just gonna work on releasing horizon without a functional elevator

its far too much work and i'm stuck for now

theres a lot i need to do left and i know how to do none of it

[tired crown]

@lyric copper can you help her?

[lyric copper]

I'm busy rn but I might be able to help tomorrow if wanted

[tired crown]

@tawdry citrus Would that work? ^^

[tawdry citrus]

prob

[tired crown]

👍

[dapper plover]

could u send me what u have rn?

[tawdry citrus]

Wdym?

[dapper plover]

ur elevator

like the prefab for it

[tawdry citrus]

I guess

I'll get back on in a min

[dapper plover]

thanks

oh take ur time

[tawdry citrus]

hopefully nothing is missing when you import it

[dapper plover]

thank you!\

[tawdry citrus]

yw

whatcha need it for?

[smoky fox]

Prob smth for the cave interior if I had to guess

[dapper plover]

I was just gonna help u out, but i am busy working on my interior

[tawdry citrus]

oh ok

[dapper plover]

im just having a lot of issues with it

[tawdry citrus]

oh

[tawdry citrus]

dead thread vibes

[normal nymph]

thread aint really dead unless activity ceases for 72 hours, resulting in the thread hiding itself from the sidebar

[tawdry citrus]

gotta make sure that doesnt happen

[ocean delta]

i hate that discord does that

like just let me keep all my followedx threads in my sidebar

[crimson flower]

you can configure when the thread will be hidden i think

[dapper plover]

is it fine if you show me how the artifice door is closed by default, the prefab gets really messed up, all the scripts and everything and missing

[dapper plover]

is it this value?

[tawdry citrus]

I dunno

[dapper plover]

How did you change it to be closed by default then?

[tawdry citrus]

Didn't do any scripting

Just changed settings in the object properties

[dapper plover]

where is that?

[tawdry citrus]

i dont remember

[dapper plover]

😭

[tawdry citrus]

i'm sorry

[dapper plover]

if you have time later, would it be possible for you to check please 🙏

[tawdry citrus]

uncheck this in the lever for the doors

i think

[dapper plover]

thank you!

I will test it out in a bit

[tawdry citrus]

i hope it works

[dapper plover]

I just need to make sure the room that uses this actually spawns in my interior xD

[tawdry citrus]

i really dont know what i'm doing so i'm not the person to be helping, lol

[vivid moat]

uh little bug here

since the snow one wasn’t standalone

I had already downloaded the other 1

2*

and then was like “oh well” and got the pack

that causes a…

“Teeny tiny” malfunction that makes the game unplayable

a mod conflicting with itself …

Kinda atleast

[dapper plover]

oh yea also it worked thx

[tawdry citrus]

I'll see about fixing that when the major update is being released

[tawdry citrus]

Kerfus's Moons!/Celestial Expansion

[snow kindle]

Ohh? 👀

[vivid moat]

👀

[vivid moat]

bonus ducks that i somehow didnt notice at all

if that happens, it breaks every mod

BUT terminal formatting, in specific. out of the like, 50 mods I have, thats the one that isnt broken 💀

[tawdry citrus]

Hm?

[tawdry citrus]

That's very strange

[snow kindle]

just lookin at the name change

[tawdry citrus]

Ye

https://tenor.com/view/kerfus-cat-gif-2678024984506837553

Kerfus

[vivid moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kerfus-voices-of-the-void-falling-gif-8256536609311876285

should name a moon kerfus or smth

little easter egg robot in it as well

[tawdry citrus]

Someone needs to make a kerfus model replacement suit

It's so lame that there isn't already one

https://tenor.com/view/kerfus-bellabot-robot-cat-gif-15412096320426997026

The army

[desert forge]

idk what these are but they’re so cute omg

[tawdry citrus]

Kerfus!

We love kerfus's here

[tired crown]

Idek what Kerfus' are

[tawdry citrus]

They're adorable kitty robots that just wanna sell you chips

Cat + robot + goober + adorable = literally me

[tawdry citrus]

Pretty major delays

The new update would Normally be out by now

But I've been having issues with a major part of horizon

If I don't have them resolved by tomorrow

I'm just gonna skip it and make a workaround

[tired crown]

I mean if it's still the Elevator stuff you can always ask someone who's already made Elevators for help

[tawdry citrus]

I've been getting help

Lots of it

[tired crown]

Good

Also hope you found out what the issue with Boreal was

the error spam

[tawdry citrus]

I just have the curse of not allowed to Make an elevator

[tawdry citrus]

I'll be working on that soon

[tired crown]

Try asking @ancient portal he made an Elavator for the SCP Interior

[tawdry citrus]

The elevator on that interior is fake

[tired crown]

Wesley is gonna be on a break for the next week or so

[ancient portal]

yeah my elev is sneaky fake one

it works well if you can hide it though

[tawdry citrus]

It's done the same way as the elevator from scp containment breach

It's just a teleport room

[tawdry citrus]

Mine is an exposed platform elevator

[tired crown]

Maybe Batby then, he helped Piggy with the Elevator update for LC_Office, or Kite the dev of the Synthesis moon

[ancient portal]

you could peek how the company cruiser parenting works and make a moving platform in the same way

[tawdry citrus]

I would do that

But I don't have any experience to know what I'm looking at

And also

The issues ive been having, have nothing to do with CC stuff

I can't even get an animated elevator to function how it should

[ancient portal]

how are you animating it?

I know it's a weird parallel but you could check how I do my SCP 914 doors and copy the RPC logic

[tawdry citrus]

Don't even remember

[ancient portal]

(assuming it's a client replication/server issue)

[tawdry citrus]

Currently the issue with the elevator Xu gave me is that it's just always repeating the animation and then teleporting back to the start

Without being interacted with

It's just doing that

[ancient portal]

do you have the animation state machine set up to have 2 states with 2 transitions?

[tawdry citrus]

I think so

I dunno

I'd have to look and I'm in bed now

[ancient portal]

sounds like it just has 1 animation that it's looping

you'd need a state for the top/bottom, then an animation for moving between them (or just having the 2 positions and doing a long transition between them if it's basic)

[tawdry citrus]

A switch is supposed to activate the elevator going up, and then interacting again bringing it back down

And it shouldn't be doing anything without touching the switch

I think the way it's supposed to work is with one anim

Pulling the switch is checking to see if it's up or down

And depending on that I'll play in positive or negative speed

I think

[ancient portal]

that could probably work, I just find it simpler to work with unique animations for each

[tawdry citrus]

Would you be available to help with it tomorrow?

Just a warning if yes, I'm very dumb and autistic

[ancient portal]

Got work for the week, could help on the weekend or after work but timezones prob hurt that

e.g. it's 3PM for me atm, I'd be available from <t:1722324600:t> onwards (weekends I can do whatever time really)

[desert forge]

Mood

[tawdry citrus]

skipping the elevator

the moon wont be the same without it

but

it can be worked around

the update can hopefully released before i go on vacation

[tawdry citrus]

i hate unity terrain

why cant you just scale it

whoever made it the way it is needs to lose their job

i dont care if they still work for unity

they still need to lose whatever job they have now

they deserve poverty

[tawdry citrus]

gone

gone

gone

i'll be deleting my thread tomorrow

thanks everyone

it was fun while it lasted

horizon is never coming out

i'll be deprecating all of my moons

this is all gone and done

i cant fix this

its over

[tired crown]

Bruh

If it's giving you trouble just take a break from working on it, don't delete the whole thread and deprecate everything else you've made

[tawdry citrus]

everything i've made is gone and theres no backups

its all completely broken

[tired crown]

Can't you restore the project from the mod on the Thunderstore page? Not Horizon but

the other 3

[tawdry citrus]

i'm not bothering if horizon is gone

i put more work into that one moon than all my others combined

[tired crown]

Are you sure you don't have any builds of Horizon saved before the Unity project corrupted?

[tawdry citrus]

nope

everything is gone

[tired crown]

How?

[tawdry citrus]

i wasnt smart enough to actually back anything up

[tired crown]

I mean just keep this as a lesson to back your stuff up in the future, I don't think you should give up though

Is it even remotely salvageable?

[tawdry citrus]

no

i'd have to literally remake everything

[tired crown]

I mean if you need to do that I would just wait

V60 is gonna drop in the next few days

[tawdry citrus]

id need to do that if i keep working on it

and i'm not gonna

[tired crown]

Might as well do it again after so you can implement the needed changes

[tawdry citrus]

i was literally about to have a release ready build of the new update

[tired crown]

☠️

[tawdry citrus]

i was prob gonna have it out within an hour from now

[tired crown]

Always

Always

create backups

Unity can be so unstable

😦

[tawdry citrus]

that'll be important to tell someone who actually keeps doing this

cuz i'm done

i dont have the motivation to remake everything

[tired crown]

The 3 moons you currently have are still really nice :/ even if you don't have the motivation to remake the one you lost

[tawdry citrus]

i had a really nice update to boreal

and i know you like boreal

[tired crown]

That you can probably restore, from the project currently on the TS page

[tawdry citrus]

it was gonna make it a lot better than it already is

and horizon was gonna be better than all of my other moons

and now thats just permanently gone

after like

a full week of working on it

[tired crown]

I feel your frustrations

I do

[tired crown]

Just hate to see a good mod be lost

[tawdry citrus]

ill uh

come out with something new another time

but i'm done for a long while

[analog gulch]

at least sleep on it before going nuclear

i also wish you wouldn't deprecate them, at least not yet, as they're still working

[tawdry citrus]

if they stop working v60

i'll deprecate them

[analog gulch]

yeah that's fair. i doubt they will, though

[tired crown]

Well Boreal has a bug where you get error spam

That was in the progress of being fixed

[tawdry citrus]

it was a big update i just lost

[tired crown]

Yeah

[tawdry citrus]

even if i restored everything from the last release

it'd prob be another 2 weeks until everything was made again

and for the updates to boreal

i was using assets i made for horizon

[tired crown]

Oof

[tawdry citrus]

when i start again

in a lil while

i'm gonna start big

i really dont see doing anything else with myself in the future

so i'm not done modding ig

but i am done with celestial expansion

in prob about a week

i'll start on a new set of 4 moons

[tired crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-cat-pat-pat-gif-25250101

[tawdry citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kerfus-cat-gif-2678024984506837553

[normal nymph]

sayin this right before bed so wont see any possible reply til mornin.
what you were experiencing was just the initial shock; panic over a future that may exist. the files for the moons as they were are gone, BUT that doesnt mean you cant make better versions of them. different layouts that your past brain never thought of. different gimmicks that may become possible as modding evolves; and with both the game and its mods evolving, so can your brilliance 🙂
i sleep now. dont let this setback keep you knocked down. rebuild and improve your already stellar concepts

[tired crown]

You said my thoughts but we couldn't think of how to word them properly

[tawdry citrus]

i was very happy with what i had done, so following the same concepts wouldnt really get the same quality

horizon was very meticulously designed

thats why it took so much longer

but

uh

i have ideas

so

there will be more to look forward to

it'll just be a while

sorry you all will never get to see horizon

[tired crown]

It happens

[lyric copper]

How did this happen?

[tawdry citrus]

Stuff

I don't wanna worry about it

I'm about to go on vacation and I'm just gonna restart when I get back

[lyric copper]

That's fair
I thought maybe I could help
Have fun on your vacation!

[tawdry citrus]

Thanks

I appreciate you wanting to help

I'd love to take up your offer for that, but it would be more effort to Salvage the old work than it would to just start over

[snow kindle]

What exactly missing? I see textures missing but im guessing theres more to it

[tawdry citrus]

Textures, scripts, and every single vanilla asset that was placed

Basically everything necessary broke

[snow kindle]

Textures can be easily replaced

Not sure about scripts :/

[tawdry citrus]

Not gonna bother

I'm gonna start working on a new, higher quality set of moons

[snow kindle]

Cant wait to see your new stuff ^^

Have fun on your vacation!

[tawdry citrus]

Well, you're gonna have to

Lol

:3

[snow kindle]

Haha right

I’ll also cook some more stuff

Gonna release them all after LTB LLL updates and v60 comes out

Maybe even later lol

[tawdry citrus]

I won't be releasing anything until I have 4 Moons completed

[snow kindle]

Got some crazy stuff coming but i need to work on them more

[tawdry citrus]

:3

[dapper plover]

that doesent look that bad to remake just make a new project, and transfer things one by one

[tawdry citrus]

It's worse then it looks

[ocean delta]

also, i know that even though msking it the first time took longer but now that you know how to do the changes you made, it should be relatively easier the second time (didnt read all the way down, and understand that you wont work on it anymore unfortunately and how much was actually lost, i wish you good luck on your future moons)

[sage vault]

Sorry to hear ya lost everything. That's an awful blow.

Hopefully you feel better after some time away

[tawdry citrus]

I'm still upset about it

But

I have motivation to continue work

I would already be working on making my new set of moons

If I wasn't going on vacation to the beach tomorrow morning

[tawdry citrus]

Leaving in vacation in a few minutes now

I'll be back in like 4 days

[normal nymph]

glhf 🙂

[tawdry citrus]

Kerfus's Moons!

[tawdry citrus]

I've genuinely never seen that acronym before

I had to look it up

Lol

[normal nymph]

good luck have fun

[tawdry citrus]

Ye

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/yee-yeedinasour-dinasour-gif-4930781

[tawdry citrus]

[desert forge]

Oooh, whatcha doin’?

[tawdry citrus]

Going to the beach

[desert forge]

Fun!

[tawdry citrus]

This vacation sucks

My family cheaped out on the house were in

[rotund tree]

oh

[tawdry citrus]

oh

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-oh-yeah-oh-my-oh-my-god-oh-wow-gif-14984354707514923527

[sage vault]

awh

[tawdry citrus]

Hm?

[sage vault]

the vacation sucks

[tawdry citrus]

At least I got a very faint look at the milkyway

[tawdry citrus]

Felix's Moons!

ignore this change

I'm still me

[snow kindle]

you cant fool me

[tawdry citrus]

Wdym?

[snow kindle]

You can change your name however i’ll still know its you

[tawdry citrus]

I want you to know it's still me

I just have a new name now

[tawdry citrus]

Wahhh

I wanna be working on new mooonsss

[tawdry citrus]

I should start a patreon when I get back

To post development updates

So people can gimme like a dollar a month to see what I'm working on

Would anyone here be interested in something like that?

[autumn spear]

id pay a whole $1.50

[tawdry citrus]

That'd probably be what I'd set the price

So I'd still get a dollar after patreon takes some

[tawdry citrus]

Question for everyone online here

What would people be interested in seeing with a patreon I setup?

I already have some ideas

But I wanna see what people would want

[autumn spear]

anything related to the creative process, wips and otherwise. as someone whos wanted to get into moon making, anything you could add to append to audioknights yt vid tutorial would be cash as well.

[tawdry citrus]

That's generally the idea, glad to see you're interested tho

I'm also planning on posting early builds of moons before they're ready to be uploaded

[rotund tree]

Agreed

[rotund tree]

That'd be cool and it could also help you find bugs

[tawdry citrus]

I wanna do that so people can support me if they want early access to stuff before its fully ready

I'm gonna move from doing small updates to individual things almost every day

To bigger updates working on multiple issues all at once

So the public builds are gonna be updated less frequently

But the updates will matter more

[normal nymph]

my wallet be like

https://tenor.com/view/pharoah's-curse-pharoah-curse-gif-9768609729181577113

[tawdry citrus]

Lol

My wallet is completely empy

I have 7$ in my bank account and it's not even my money

Wanting to start a patreon so I can at least have a couple dollars

Lol

[desert forge]

tbh that’s what I generally prefer myself

Outside of bug fixes and such

[tawdry citrus]

Yeah

I wanna be releasing finished stuff more

That won't need bug fixes after release

[desert forge]

Best thing to do with that format is plan updates ahead too

[tawdry citrus]

Oh, I've got plans

[desert forge]

Not necessarily publicly, but just so you don’t keep endlessly adding and never updating it which I’m guilty of

[tawdry citrus]

I'm gonna have a gigantic release ready in a few weeks

[desert forge]

Rad!

[tawdry citrus]

I'm fully replacing celestial expansion

Celestial was kinda like a trial run for all this

What I'm gonna be working on after this vacation is gonna be "the real thing"

I'll be the best moon maker anyone's seen before after this

Lol

I'll be putting an almost unnecessary amount of effort into everything

I'm gonna make sure the work I put out is something I'm not even able to believe I made

[analog gulch]

it's good to hear you're motivated again

[desert forge]

me

Admittedly partially due to my OCD

[desert forge]

Yeah, very happy to see it

[tawdry citrus]

I was only demotivated for like 1 night

This is my biggest interest

It's not something I can give up on very easily

And the support I've been getting this whole time is far more motivating than losing some progress

[tawdry citrus]

Coming home tomorrow

Will be starting work immediately

[normal nymph]

nice nice

[tawdry citrus]

Anyone got some ideas?

For when I start working again

[normal nymph]

lava. we need more lava moons

[tired crown]

Yeah I remember one of our alters suggested that before

Think it was Eva?

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/volcano-eruption-iceland-traveler__story-fire-gif-21214213

[tawdry citrus]

You had an alter named Eva?

[normal nymph]

yea. plant girl

[tawdry citrus]

Oh ok

[tawdry citrus]

Maybe, probably not in the first 4 moons

[normal nymph]

:<

eh, ok :>

[tired crown]

Have an alter named Eva, she's still around hehe

[tawdry citrus]

That's a very hard design to get right

[tawdry citrus]

We had an alter named Eva at one point

[tired crown]

Oh cool lol

[tawdry citrus]

And she sucked

[tired crown]

LOL

"Well then XD" - Eva

"I hope you don't think I suck lol"

[tawdry citrus]

She hurt 2 of 3 of the alters in our system rn pretty badly

[tired crown]

Oof

[tawdry citrus]

Nah

I just saw the name and recoiled a bit at first

[tired crown]

It happens

[tawdry citrus]

I was one of the 2

[tired crown]

Everyone is bound to share names at one point or another

[tawdry citrus]

But yeah

[tired crown]

Sorry to hear though

[tawdry citrus]

It's okay

[tired crown]

Did you like get involved with her romantically or something? I've heard of alters doing that

[tawdry citrus]

Nope

[tired crown]

Okay good good

[tawdry citrus]

Most of our alters are like family

We consider each other siblings

But thats where the problem with Eva was

[tired crown]

I feel that

[tawdry citrus]

Especially with me

When Eva was around

I considered her family

She was my sister

And I loved her no matter what

The problem is that she didn't

[tired crown]

Hmmmm

How did she look at things?

[tawdry citrus]

Well

She acted like she felt the same

But when I was found more about myself and no longer expressed myself in a way she liked

All the love went out the window

And someone I thought cared about me suddenly despised me for just being myself

[tired crown]

I mean that's no different from a normal person, it sounds like she just had a hard time accepting change and didn't know how to handle it

[tawdry citrus]

It was a much longer conflict than I really wanna get into

[tired crown]

Not much you can do ofc but yeah it sounds like she just didn't like that you changed

[tawdry citrus]

It was like a transphobic family member

[tired crown]

Well

Is it possible she held onto a lot of your transphobic and toxic trauma?

[tawdry citrus]

She was no different than our parents, just in the other direction

[tawdry citrus]

No, because I do

[tired crown]

Hmmmm

[tawdry citrus]

Which also just made it worse

[tired crown]

Just trying to think of why she lashed out the way she did

[tawdry citrus]

Cuz that brought up a lot of stuff when she was acting that way

[tired crown]

She had to inherit the toxic personality from somewhere

[tawdry citrus]

She had an idea of who I was supposed to be in her head

And was a narcissist

So when I didn't fit that anymore

She hated me

And no matter how much I tried to explain to her

She just didn't care

I wasn't useful to her anymore so she wanted to discard me

[tired crown]

How did you get rid of her anyways?

[tawdry citrus]

Well, system was going through some changes overall

And the "original" alter in our system

Who has a lot of pull in what our system does internally

Came back from being dormant and was there to defend me

[tired crown]

So your birth woke up for a small time?

[tawdry citrus]

Not birth

[tired crown]

Usually people describe the birth as the original

[tawdry citrus]

Yeah

Thats why it was in quotes

Our original isn't our birth

They're the first alter who formed outside of the birth themselves

And our birth has been dormant since pretty shortly after they formed

So we've basically never had our birth alter active

[tired crown]

Pretty sure in our system that might be Ana, since she's the one that was forward before any of the rest of us for most of our life and is the one that holds our Co-Con together despite not being a main alter

[tawdry citrus]

Ah

[tired crown]

But I may be wrong on that part

[tawdry citrus]

Also wasn't a small time

[tired crown]

That's just how I've currently pieced things

[tawdry citrus]

It was gonna be, because our system for a bit only actually had room for 2 alters

But because they have a lot of pull in how our system functions internally

And our system was kinda malleable during all that

They were able to make room for themself so i wouldn't have to deal with losing them right after meeting them

I got very attached to them

So they didn't want me having to deal with losing someone I thought cared about me

And then also losing someone who did care about me and came back from being dormant to be there for me

[tired crown]

Hmmm

I guess I consider ourself lucky we haven't met a super toxic alter yet

UwU

Sounds awful to deal with 😦

[tawdry citrus]

It was

[tawdry citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1242006492866019359/1269953632988692520/memes-gmod.gif?ex=66b1effc&is=66b09e7c&hm=2cc1cf122a16293867576acfd8e455a0a95c44660bd8e9bde1bd467e3313b81e&

[tawdry citrus]

I'm waiting until v60 and starlancers updated tutorial

To start working again

[tawdry citrus]

Message to keep the thread open

[autumn spear]

[rustic pine]

oh you do make moons

nice

[snow kindle]

and they were good too

[rustic pine]

were?

wow s1ckboy

what an ass

smh

[snow kindle]

Felix had 3 (they are still on TS)

[rustic pine]

had?

you stole them?

wow s1ckboy

what an ass

smh

[tired crown]

Their project corrupted

[snow kindle]

cuz the unity projects were lost dummy

[tired crown]

Without a backup

[rustic pine]

lost?

you took thjem?

wow s1ckboy

what an ass

smh

[tired crown]

Xu

[snow kindle]

[tired crown]

What am I missing here?

[rustic pine]

you're missing me repeating the exact same wording 3 times in a row

[snow kindle]

Im gonna steal Xu now

[tired crown]

Just make Shisha shit out twice as many Xu's

XD

[rustic pine]

yeah, itll only mean hachiman would take 2x as long to come out of wip

[tired crown]

lol

We do a little trollin Xu dw

[tawdry citrus]

Oh hi

People in my thread

[rustic pine]

Hi

[snow kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/joie-pikachu-pokemon-bohneur-gif-20062195

[tawdry citrus]

Cute

[lyric copper]

Hello

[tawdry citrus]

Omg Wesley in my thread

I love you Wesley

[rotund tree]

nothing but facts

[tawdry citrus]

Agreed

[rustic pine]

when wesley comes in, its a confession of love

when xu comes in, it's a s1ckboy being rude

😔

[snow kindle]

you are a lovely person

[rustic pine]

not from you!

[snow kindle]

[tawdry citrus]

lol

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-enjoying-lol-michael-jackson-gif-5256534

[tawdry citrus]

V60 taking too long

If it's not out tomorrow

I'm just gonna start working on new stuff

[sage vault]

it kind of soundsl ike v60 might get rolled into the next update...?

I'm really not sure but it's definitely weird it's not out yet if it's supposedly a very small update

[twilit wigeon]

It was a . . . more simple update. Initially it was just more scrap and interior variation but as per usual he's increased his scope and is doing stuff with more new creatures and maybe more.

[drifting river]

Classic zeekers move

He should just start adding a week to his expected release dates

[tawdry citrus]

2 weeks*

He said it was done over 2 weeks ago

[drifting river]

Has he said anything recently? I was hoping it would come out today

[autumn spear]

there was a few hours ago on twitter, as far as i can tell hes just not comfy w the current state v60(?) is in

honestly expecting a beta by mid next week at this r8 lol

[tawdry citrus]

Most recent post

V60 is just gonna be out whenever it's out

So I'm not expecting it anymore

I'll just continue my work and hope it doesn't fundamentally change anything

[tired crown]

Wish he would just drop it already I want the Tile Variety and scraps idc about more new enemies atm honestly

[tawdry citrus]

Same

I'm mostly annoyed that he said it was done over 2 weeks ago

And we still have nothing of it

[autumn spear]

im hoping what he drops is game changing enough, esp after the fox kinda flopped and he just took it out back lol

[tawdry citrus]

Lol

Gotta agree

[drifting river]

Thanks. I guess I can’t fault him for that but I want that damn update lol

[tawdry citrus]

Lacy's Moons!

Ignore

[tawdry citrus]

gonna start working tomorrow

in like 10-12 hours

[tawdry citrus]

Good morning people

Hope I haven't taken so long to start working again that nobody cares anymore

[desert forge]

Nah you’re good <3

[tawdry citrus]

Well, lemme give you all the theme of the moon I'm starting work on

It's in this sorta biome

And the majority of the map is gonna be inside a cave

In the side of the cliff

But there is gonna be a couple ways ontop

[desert forge]

Oooh, wicked!

I actually have a concept for a moon with that exact kinda biome written down somewhere

Mine’s all outside though

Mine’s also heavily inspired by an irl historic site, so they’ll probably be very different lol

[tawdry citrus]

glad to hear some other moon ideas :3

[tawdry citrus]

random catastrophic error caused by something unknown completely broke the project i had everything setup on, after i had minor issues setting up the unity project to even start working on a new moon

[tired crown]

I hope you at least have backups this time

[tawdry citrus]

it wasnt really something to backup

i hadnt even starting working on a moon yet

[tired crown]

Ah okay

[tawdry citrus]

i had just finished setting up the project to start working

so now i gotta wait to export the setup and import it onto a new project

because the error is with unity and not the stuff in the project

and if that doesnt work

i have to redo everything i did today

i love when unity just says "nuh uh" and fucks my progress so i have to restart

[tawdry citrus]

didnt work

gonna take a break for tonight and try again tomorrow

[vivid moat]

oh even without nitro my super reactions stay

was curious bout that

[tawdry citrus]

[tawdry citrus]

damn, its hard to get started again

[tawdry citrus]

actually working on stuff now

[tawdry citrus]

Got some important stuff to do tomorrow morning, but I'll be back to work again right when I get home

[tawdry citrus]

Hey everyone in my thread

Late night advice

Live your life for you

Live how you want

Do what makes you happy

We all only get one life

And it's gonna be over one day

Don't waste it living for anyone other than yourself

[tawdry citrus]

might be slow

not in the mood currently

got a heart condition that means i'm basically gonna need open heart surgery

or i just die

and i cant move out of my transphobic parents house because of that

cuz i need insurance

or it'll put me in medical debt forever

my only other option is really just figuring out how to move to canada

[tawdry citrus]

Thanks for 10k

[pastel lynx]

cool moons!

[tawdry citrus]

oh woah

you're awesome

i'm super surpised you're here

[pastel lynx]

I'm using them for my modpack :]
They are very cool!

and you too

[tawdry citrus]

woah

whats so special about my half broken moons that are never getting fixed?

[pastel lynx]

I haven't found anything broken

yet :]

[tawdry citrus]

Error log spam

[pastel lynx]

I don't have logs enabled

so no big issue for me

[tawdry citrus]

Destitute doesn't have fog

And has some crashes related to audio reverb triggers

[pastel lynx]

nothing potentially serious and possibly fixable :]

[tawdry citrus]

Any issues are unfixable since I lost all of the stuff

[pastel lynx]

oh, that's not good

[tawdry citrus]

I'm currently working on a new moon pack tho

[pastel lynx]

will they have the same name?

cuz I use LQ to set up almost everything :,]

[tawdry citrus]

It's gonna be 4 brand new moons under a dif name

[pastel lynx]

oh, I see

[tawdry citrus]

And those 3 moons are gonna become unusable after enough updates

[tawdry citrus]

Yeah sorry

The new ones should be better tho

And at some point I might go back and remake the original 3 from that pack

but thats not currently the plan

[tawdry citrus]

continuing the convo super late

whenever i do release anything. i hope you like it just as much, or more than celestial expansion

[autumn spear]

im just excited to get more moons from you, just the Three you put out hold a special place in my moon list. ill miss them whenever they eventually break but its nbd

[tawdry citrus]

new moon is going well

hopefully my heart doesnt kill me before i release anything. lol

[tired crown]

Why would your heart kill you?

[tawdry citrus]

got a connective tissue disorder that makes my aorta stretch and i have a higher risk of my aorta exploding or disconnecting because of that, and it'll keep getting more likely as it continues to expand until it becomes a high enough risk to need preventative surgery

and recently went to get a checkup and its been progressing faster

than it was before

[tired crown]

That's kind of dumb they can't do something about it immediately

[tawdry citrus]

insurance wouldnt cover it cuz it isnt necessary yet

and its potentially gonna require open heart surgery

[tired crown]

That's stupid, it's better to get this stuff taken care of before it gets bad

[tawdry citrus]

i do live in the US

[tired crown]

Another reason why I hate the US tbh

I wanna move out of this shithole at some point

[tawdry citrus]

i shouldnt need surgery for another 2-3 years

but

[tired crown]

Our healthcare system and insurance system sucks

[tawdry citrus]

if it wasnt getting worse

i wouldnt need surgery for another 10+ years

[tawdry citrus]

i might have enough time to move to canada and get their healthcare

cuz my only other option is staying and living with my abusive transphobic parents for 3 more years after turning 18

to get their insurance

and not be in medical debt forever

or get denied care

until my heart explodes and kills me instantly

lol

[tired crown]

You would need to have either

Work experience or need to know someone there unfortunately

To move there and become a citizen

[tawdry citrus]

and i'd prob do the word that starts with S before staying here any longer

[tired crown]

I too wanna move to Canada at some point, it sucks that there's strict requirements for being able to move to other countries

[tired crown]

Do you know if any of your alters have an effect on it at all? I was gonna say if you have an alter that might help prevent it from getting worse your best option may be to have them front. But physical body things are sort of finnicky when it comes to DID

[tawdry citrus]

nope

that wouldnt really do anything

[tired crown]

Yeah there's some physical body things that can be affected but wasn't sure if that'd be one of them tbh

Just hope you're gonna be okay and you can manage to get some better insurance asap

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

[ancient portal]

Aus healthcare is/was excellent but has been severely underfunded in recent years cuz 10 years of conservative gov

Still a far cry from the US system at least, I'd say it'd be a good refuge if it wasn't as hard to get to/likely would involve cutting friendship ties cuz timezones compared to Canada

[desert forge]

As a Canadian who used to try and plan discord events so that an Australian server member could participate, yeah it’s difficult lol

[ancient portal]

Yeah biggest problem in Aus is being a pretty small place community wise and being well outside reasonable hours in the major timezones

[desert forge]

I used to have to try to plan stuff so that Canadians, Americans, Australians, Vietnamese, Saudi Arabians, and Moroccans could all participate

Probably more countries than that but that gets the idea across

Made planning tournaments especially annoying, lol

[ancient portal]

Otherwise it's generally a nice place, surprisingly queer friendly and has decent social safety nets, good nature, all that jazz

[tawdry citrus]

@normal nymph want early access to one of my new moons?

i might be done tomorrow

[normal nymph]

bed soon. work in morning

[tawdry citrus]

just wondering if you'd want me to like, DM a zip to you tho

so you could play on it early

[normal nymph]

send if you want, but wont be able to try until evening my time

[tawdry citrus]

thats all good

you're cool so i dont mind sharing stuff early with you

[normal nymph]

mk

[tawdry citrus]

anyways

who wants cave moon?

depending on how many people want it

i might just release it on thunderstore tomorrow

[tired crown]

I would be down for that, cus then I can try it out easier on stream with my group ❤️

[tawdry citrus]

that'd be cool

if you do

want me to be there?

[tired crown]

Sure if you feel up for it ^^

[tawdry citrus]

i made a janky elevator for the moon btw

i'm excited to see how goofy it looks on multiplayer

[tired crown]

lol

[tawdry citrus]

its janky cuz the kill barrier doesnt work

and the platforms dont use the CC scripts

[tawdry citrus]

i may have stayed up a bit too late working on this

its currently 6am

and i just spent half an hour adding capsules to trees

kinda payed off tho

if you all want

i can release the moon tomorrow

cuz i only have the final setup stuff left

[tawdry citrus]

@snow kindle i like you, i think you're cool

wanna help me name my new moon?

i dont have any ideas

[snow kindle]

i can think of something but i would need to see the layout of it 🤷‍♂️

[tawdry citrus]

its hard to actually give a layout

its a cave moon

cant really do a top down layout of that

sorry

hmm

How does Strident sound?

just followed a chain of synonyms until i found a unique sounding word

[snow kindle]

its not bad 🤔

[autumn spear]

makes me think of the gum

[snow kindle]

do you have a theme for it?

[tawdry citrus]

mining site inside a cave

[snow kindle]

so an industrial theme nothing fantasy like right?

you could do something like Silentveil or Duskvane 🤔

[autumn spear]

both of those sound fantasy lol

[snow kindle]

i mean yeah its a bit fantasy like

i'll think about it a bit

[tawdry citrus]

100% fantasy

lol

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

[snow kindle]

i mean a 100% fantasy would be like Yggdrasen or something xd

[pastel lynx]

look what just has been released :]

[tawdry citrus]

it may be broken

im testing it rn

if it is, it should be a fairly quick fix

hm

game log isnt useful

i fixed it

elevator doesnt load in game

but thats fine for now

can fix that later

uploading an update to fix the major issue

[snow kindle]

i'll check it out tomorrow ^^

[lyric copper]

^ me too

[normal nymph]

yey cave moon 😄 ... oh god, cave moon icon

[blissful gorge]

super cool! congrats on making peak again

[tawdry citrus]

could just do a top down of it minus the roof of the cave

[normal nymph]

WEBLEY, my friend who started my whole icon craze. you look like the kind of guy who would absolutely LOVE making an icon for a cave moon

[tawdry citrus]

pfft

[lyric copper]

[normal nymph]

(im still doing it, but )

[lyric copper]

I fear cave moon icons

[normal nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-kid-tantrums-gif-15375793

[tawdry citrus]

@tired crown i got Strident released, the working version should be on the mod managers in about an hour

[tawdry citrus]

there does seemt to be some issues with a lot of dif things

so strident has a lot of work left

for bug fixing

[ashen vessel]

seems whenever I try to land I get a unity error then the game crashed

wait it downloaded v1.00

lemme try the update

[analog gulch]

yeesh, just for one moon?

[tired crown]

Oh eeeeeesh

Why is it that big?

[autumn spear]

noticed this immediately lol. praying its just cause early drop

[ashen vessel]

I barely have anything on and it just crashes atm for me

[tired crown]

@tawdry citrus if you need help optimizing the moon size, I would ask @snow kindle to help you

[tawdry citrus]

there are some issues with it

[tawdry citrus]

gonna optimize it after all the issues are cleared out

and this moon has some issues

i'm working on figuring out whats wrong with it rn

[snow kindle]

Well we could i guess do a big sess for mooners now lmao so i wouldnt have to go thru it for everyone seperately 😂 @solid bough @tawdry citrus @frail sundial if you guys would like to talk about optimizations let me know - its not gonna be Batby sizes where he somehow made 500kbs scenes but we can decrease the sizes under 10mbs

I mean the scene

It really depends on how detailed you stuff are

I know Lacy you use mostly ingame assets or at least you did for previous moons

[tawdry citrus]

this one heavily uses outside assets

[snow kindle]

How big is it rn?

[tawdry citrus]

almost 300mb

lol

[snow kindle]

Yea we can probably make it a 50mb moon

[tawdry citrus]

you think you could also help with diagnosing whats causing a crash on load?

[snow kindle]

Seichi was 420 mbs originally and now its 69mbs - Lunx dont look rn || even tho i added a ton of stuff to Seichi, it is basically 3 moons rn lol ||

[snow kindle]

Do you have draw instance on?

[tawdry citrus]

yes

[tired crown]

The crash is probably due to it being super unoptimized and maybe having a borked asset

But s1ckboy would know more he's a professional

[slim fern]

sick go to bed

[snow kindle]

Alright we can look into it later

[tired crown]

Giggity

420 to 69

😉

[snow kindle]

I did achieve that

[slim fern]

You're not allowed to add any more content to Seichi now

420 -> 69 is the perfect pipeline

[tired crown]

Nah

[slim fern]

Anything else will ruin it

[tired crown]

Seichi needs foliage

Lol

[snow kindle]

U cant stop me

[slim fern]

I will just not update

[snow kindle]

Yeah i’ll try to find fitting bushes

[tired crown]

Nah s1ckboy can keep it at 69

:3

[slim fern]

True, he's an optimization god

[tired crown]

Mhm

[snow kindle]

Grandarmory did go down from 67mbs to 34 too :3

^ could go lower but Wesley wanted to keep some stuff better quality which i dont blame

[tawdry citrus]

damn

strident crashes on multiplayer every single time

and nothing i've done even kinda fixed it

[tired crown]

Check the logs, it's probably an asset doing it

It should log the last thing that tried to load

[tawdry citrus]

tried fixing that

it was something that shouldnt be an issue

and also wasnt an issue cuz it didnt fix anything\

the logs arent really giving anything useful

[ancient portal]

if you wanna throw it my way I can take a look at the log

or just see if there's anything going wrong in general

[tawdry citrus]

how?

[ancient portal]

should be available through whatever launcher you're using/in the bepinex folder of LC

[tawdry citrus]

oh, so you just want the mod? not the whole project or anything?

[ancient portal]

o was referring to the log, the mod is on thunderstore isn't it? I'll test that as well

[tawdry citrus]

oh

yeah

[ancient portal]

hm, yeah log seems to die before it can tell what's happening

[tawdry citrus]

yup

[ancient portal]

usually would expect that to happen with corrupted assets, best I can suggest is trying to disable various parts until you can successfully load in

then narrow it down from there

[normal nymph]

... even i wouldnt try a moon that large in size in my 1P pack. will give it a whirl on my test profile tho