LethalMon [v80 / 0.6.10]

[primal ferry]

Decided to remove ghost eyes when model is replaced. Looked weird on some 👌🏻

[lime fox]

Sick~

[weary bloom]

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [0.4.6 - alpha]

0.4.6

• Masked is now catchable (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Fixed a bug that desynchronized the balls when a client died with a monster out
• Hoarding bug is a bit easier to catch

[thorny knot]

3rd one: YIPPEEE

[rough pewter]

We Yippeeing tonight with these change notes

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [0.4.7 - alpha]

0.4.7

• Fixed a bug that made the host freeze if they died with a monster out

[rough pewter]

What's the next monster on the list

[frigid dock]

Giants and baboons

[rough pewter]

Any ideas on what they could do?

Baboon could just be an outdoor loot bug but idk if that's exciting enough

[frigid dock]

Baboon hawk allows to see close items through walls and giants can take damages instead of the player but they can die

[rough pewter]

Doesn't the masked already do that though

Let you see through walls

[frigid dock]

You can see enemies only with the mask

[rough pewter]

Oooh

I see

I also wanted to ask something. Does this mod have compatibility with Extra monster skins?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DistinctBlaze/ExtraEnemyVariety/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DistinctBlaze/ColorfulEnemyVariety/

[quick lake]

baboon hawks tend to be group-centric enemies, maybe they would function as more than one when out?

like they could instead of allowing you to see items thru walls they could just scatter and make noise near items

[rough pewter]

Maybe the baboon makes other baboons passive towards you

[quick lake]

that could be cool too yeah

[rough pewter]

Or they recruit them

And can attack other monsters for you

[frigid dock]

It was also to reuse code that we already made. It takes a lot of time to do 1 enemy

[rough pewter]

Take your time

It's a really impressive mod

[quick lake]

ye fair enough!

unique mechanics are hard to do

[frigid dock]

It will be an echolocation in order to stay coherent with the monster

@primal ferry sent me a first prototype: https://gyazo.com/8e654fd500132775720bfd8308b85f45

[light rampart]

An idea for the Jester like In the lore, it could be a type of security guard. Whenever the player sends it out indoors, it would roam and attack any threats to the player while the player is exploring and gathering loot. It would also do the same outdoors, making it one of the only lethalmons to attack giants and dogs consistently.

[quick lake]

oooo neato

i'd say include a different baboon hawk sound effect as opposed to a radar sound, or combine both

but that's super cool

[rough pewter]

That kind of idea sounds very hard to balance

Getting the jester basically makes you win the whole game since you'll essentially be invincible

Unless you use the EverythingCanDie mod and make the jester's health a balanced amount

Maybe 50 to outhealth the giant

The jester would have to do balanced damage too otherwise it'll just one shot everything and never die

Maybe like 1, 2, or 0.5 shovel hit per second spent touching the enemy

Would be cool if you could tell the jester to pop in and out as well. That way you could also use it as a platform to place your loot on

[light rampart]

To make it balanced, let the Jester take a few seconds to wind up with a slow start, then gradually get faster.

https://tenor.com/view/regigigas-pokemon-pokemon-regigigas-light-eyes-gif-10705066607917606360

[rough pewter]

Still sounds pretty broken

Once it hits top speed

[quick lake]

if it runs out of threats, it'll then go for the player

after like, a second shorter wind up time

i think that'd be a cool way to balance it

[light rampart]

That's an interesting balance that would make it much more useful for eclipsed moons specifically

[quick lake]

it would make it useful for eclipses, but then you'd have to deal with your own jester chasing after you hehe

you'd have to try and recall it when its closeby and risk getting killed by it

[light rampart]

good risk vs reward gameplay I like it

[primal ferry]

Jester will grant you the ability to see other players through walls. It's the third (and last) with this ability, to cover enemies, items and players. But it will need something more with it, as just that is a bit lame. Might even think about a drawback, as taming the jester is already a huge win for that round

Maybe it will be uncontrollable sometimes like the thumper, and still going for your teammates if they stay too long with it

[quick lake]

unless the range for seeing players thru walls is insanely large I fail to see the usefulness of it when you could just talk

but i'll wait to see what you guys come up w!

[primal ferry]

It will be large. E.g. useful for pathfinding purposes, once you get lost

But ye, as it's not the most useful one it will need something else

More of a nice gimmick

[quick lake]

it poses a few questions, mostly related to how you would go about treating solo play with this mon

[primal ferry]

Maybe making it's secondary feature more useful the less players there are

But solo play also negates it's drawback, which in itself is already far better than the benefit for seeing players

Drawback of attaching team mates

[quick lake]

if you really think about it seeing other people ain't that helpful, think of it like the equivalent of being able to see the end of a maze

it could've been a side feature to the masked I think, but I'll have to see when I play it I guess?

[quick lake]

you still have to figure out how you even get there I mean, it's only a little useful esp from far away

[primal ferry]

But masked only targeting you after seeing you. So logically it wouldn't fit

[quick lake]

ye I know, but Jesters also aren't the "visibility support" type, they're moreso just outright aggressive

a passive supportive ability's kind of weird for it

also seeing enemies and seeing players is kind of up the same alley in my opinion

the "seeing things thru walls" ability is fun but I feel like 2 enemies are enough for it, idk about reusing the gimmick for a third one

also there's other enemies (mainly just the bracken) that always know where you are, but it doesn't mean they should have a gimmick like that in this cuz it's not their defining feature

[low stag]

A slight bug with the captured Masked. Once you put on the mask and retrieve his pokeball before the duration ends, the mask will stay on the players face indefinitely.

[frigid dock]

Thanks for the bug report

[primal ferry]

Sounds like a feature ^^ (just kidding, ty for the bug report)

[primal ferry]

Fair point. Will see in the future if I can make use of it on some enemy. It will remain a minor feature and not the main defining one though, as the benefits of it are quite low 👌🏻

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic :)

So far it could possibly be an optional feature for bracken when clicking an action key, as the bracken is a support enemy already. That way it won't be there the whole time and be more of a niche feature for the rare occasions where you may benefit from it

[frigid dock]

What about the jester winding and popping and then sprinting in the facility in order to find exits or other players, and then screaming or indicating the path by another way

[primal ferry]

Sounds more supportive too. I think monty (and others) want some more destructive behaviour for it ^^

Friendly sprinting towards your teammates while winded up would be a huge troll though.. and very scary ^^

[frigid dock]

Then it can kills enemy. Maybe if it takes a lot of time winding before attacking it can balance it

Idk

[primal ferry]

Idk too yet :) but we'll find something unique for it

[light rampart]

I agree the jester fits a more attacking/security guard type of mon

We already have a lot of support mons and more on the way including the slime/snare flea wouldn't hurt to have another attacking monster that can roam and do it's own thing

[frigid dock]

For those who played with this mod, what are your global feedback?
I'm asking because with my friends it's a bit frustrating as we are not really good and we always lose our items. So we can't really play with this mod because we have to find balls, successfully capture a monster and keep them more than 1 round

It's a lot of things to do and it's easily losable

[quick lake]

I think what you could do is have the jester auto target anything but the owner and run towards their position to kill them

you could follow your jester so that you could find your friends, but they could also get killed by it if you're not careful

it would also take out enemies for you, but you can't leave it unchecked because it'll just keep goin berserkand eventually get kill everyone including you

[lime fox]

Haven't played because I don't play lc but maybe focus on something that aren't the monsters themselves.
I.e. inside map objects that spawn which are pokeballs, interact and they spawn a random "loot" that u can maybe sell, apply on a pokemon, use as a temporary buff, etc

[quick lake]

ye that's a good idea

[quick lake]

hmm that's a predicament

maybe you could implement some sort of system to save caught mons? like the pc from pokemon

You could buy an upgrade through the terminal and it's a little machine that allows players to "scan" their mon and save it to a database

when they lose their mon they can hold the same type of capsule they caught it with up to the machine to "copy the monster data" over to it

[lime fox]

I think its best to shift the focus a bit away from the mons

[quick lake]

I mean, the problem he brought up is with losing said mons

[lime fox]

Yeah but look at the actual problem, it's a long process to even access any real content in the mod

I dont think a system that allows you to permanently keep access to stuff u caught would help much in that regard maybe

Plus a little of variety goes a long way

[quick lake]

I mean realistically you just buy the item and catch a thing, it's not much different from like

the CR wallet

but I get what you mean

[lime fox]

True I just think the solution you've necessarily come up with is more a bandaid rather than actual content that buffs the experience, maybe there's a better solution

[quick lake]

Uhmmm maybe it'd be cool to have a rare chance to find abandoned capsules with mons already inside? Rare chance though, and they should def be lower tier ones

[lime fox]

Yeah something like that would be cool

[quick lake]

How so? You'd just be able to keep your mons forever as long as you maintain a steady revenue stream to have pokeballs to transfer data to in the first place

[lime fox]

Well when I do play I don't usually tend to stick to a single savefile much especially if there's clears etc so I don't really ever see myself using that feature much personally

And then as a side thing on the development side, the amount to work needed to.make that system would equal a couple other things that would help expand the mod a bit more from the constraint of "needing to opt in by buying pokeballs" rather than natural playthrough style features

[quick lake]

ye my main problem with it is that it's reaaally complicated and idk how it would keep track of all dat

[quick lake]

you can also find pokeballs as scrap afaik

[lime fox]

Nah it's not insanely complicated to make it functional, it's just a lot of work to make it pretty

[quick lake]

only other pokemon feature that could fir in this and wouldn't require some 250 hours of work to get done is berries

I do think the mod shouldn't drive focus away from the mons, it looks like they're trying to fill up the whole vanilla enemy list atm which is fine

[lime fox]

Yeah I was thinking like berries

[quick lake]

if they don't maintain a sole focus on the mons that's also s good way to steer it

[quick lake]

the other thing would be a leveling system but since it's already complicated to keep the mons I don't see a point

held items is another, which I don't think has much potential unless you wanna make half the store items an item a mon can hold and "add to their kit"

[frigid dock]

Pokeballs already spawn naturally yes

I like the idea of being able to find already filled pokeballs

The PC might be a good idea. It could be a DNA scanning machine, that can then duplicates the monsters if you bring an empty ball

[quick lake]

Yeeee

[frigid dock]

Also thought about an NPC in the company building

That sells filled balls

[quick lake]

DUDE that would be siick

like they're twice as expensive as the normal balls and it could have like a rotation every quota or smth like the terminal's decorations

reminds me of the casinos in pokemon

would go kinda crazy actually....

[light rampart]

As someone who has played this mod for hours, one major frustration (aside from the Bracken killing the player bug) is losing your lethalmons when you die. Just like in the Pokémon games, there could be a hot bar that shows a certain number of mons on the side let's say three for now to keep it less cluttered. I think this works well, not too big, not too small. When the player dies, the lethalmons would still be with them on the sidebar, saved and ready for the next day. A good balance for this is that if you don't make quota and get fired, you lose your team of mons and must create a new one (you can make it configurable if you want to keep them after the reset). For example, you have your giant that tanks, your nutcracker that attacks, and your hoarding bug that gets loot, and you'll be able to switch them out.

https://tenor.com/view/marshadow-pokemon-pokemon-unite-unite-nintendo-gif-24057568

[frigid dock]

It's a good idea, thanks for the feedback. I agree, it's frustrating to lose a mon

[rough pewter]

Is there a way to make the balls register as shop items so that you don't lose them when dieing?

I know they're already in the shop but they also spawn as scrap

And I'm guessing that marks them for removal upon death

[rough pewter]

Omg that's such a cool idea!

[frigid dock]

There is an option in the config to keep them if you die

But only if they're in the ship

[bright sandal]

yooo just started watching sheff austin's video, this looks sick!!! cant wait to try it out

i have a few ideas that i wanted to share:

• masked prevents butler from attacking you when you're alone (since you're accompanied by a "player")
• idk if its a feature alr but you should have a greater chance to catch monsters depending on how damaged they are
• idk if this is a feature alr (again) but itd be cool if certain monsters had hp that you had to heal up at the ship
• a special purchasable items for the dogs could be a dogsled that you can mount and ride, works better if there's snow, the more dogs there are the faster you go (you can place one item onto the dogsled, but your hands are full while driving it)
• spore lizard could emit the purple cloud, which would give TZP effects to anyone standing inside it
• spore lizard could spray weed killer or smth
• butler could carry dead player bodies for you
• shiny variants!!! (very rare textured variants of monsters)
  -=-=-
• spider: makes webs to slow enemies and reduce fall damage
• hygrodere: can nullify fall damage, encase the player in a temporary gooey shield which they can move very slowly inside, and can groove to jukebox and disco ball
• old bird: is much smaller than usual, allowing it to go inside facilities. acts as a near-permanent flashlight as well as a giant eradicator
• giant: like the old bird, it is much smaller. it can carry two items for you or one two-handed item
• lasso man: MissingNo

[quick lake]

the greater chance with low hp is a great idea, yeah

no idea if it's a thing yet either

also you can check out some of the already implemented enemies in the TS post

[bright sandal]

ye thats where i was getting the info from

all the enemies i mentioned are TBD

[primal ferry]

There's a list of current behaviours on github

yep that's right :)

except spore lizard, which is mountable rn

[bright sandal]

ye everything after the -=-=- are TBD, everything before are suggestions/imporovements to alr existing ones

[primal ferry]

i really like the masked idea and the hp one

[low stag]

I think Hoarding Bug could already carry a dead body since dead players count as scraps. I do like the slime idea with being able to soften one's landing.

[quick lake]

I def agree spore lizards should do something with their spores, it's a little bit of a missed opportunity imo

or should*'ve*, don't know if it's in the cards to tweak em rn

[primal ferry]

yup, but it giving you benefits is a bit odd if it usually damages you in vanilla gameplay

maybe damaging enemies and other teammates, while owner is unaffected by it

[bright sandal]

also iw as watching sheff austin and i think one of his lethalmon vanished--

[quick lake]

I mean, spore lizards bit you if you're near and rn it's mechanic is riding it, I don't see the logic in that one either

[bright sandal]

oof

[rough pewter]

Oooh cool, I didn't know

[primal ferry]

they're usually shy, right? when being tamed they trust the owner enough to be mountable

[bright sandal]

yeah now that i think about it, them being mountable wouldnt be of much use if they could emit TZP gas

[low stag]

I would love to see Old Bird being a kamikaze. As it spots an enemy, it rushes towards an enemy and explodes like a land mine. Getting caught in the explosion puts your character in a red state or critical. Or you die if you've already taken damage.

[bright sandal]

also hygrodere could make you be able to floar

[primal ferry]

we can always make another enemy ridable though, if they fit the scheme better

[bright sandal]

so a one-per-round-use last-ditch self-destruct button? love it

[primal ferry]

our current plans for hydrogere are being an item transport support. you can drop items on it and it will carry them

also thought about adding an "entrance finding" mechanic to one of the remaining enemies, where the tamed enemy will somehow guide you to the nearest exit

but unsure on which one it would make sense, if even

[bright sandal]

hmmm

masked

wait no they alr have a use

frick uhh- maybe baboon hawks? they like find their way to their nest or smth?

[primal ferry]

^

working on that right now, but maybe add it on top if it wont get too overpowered then

[bright sandal]

damn thats way cooler actually

[primal ferry]

glad you like it^^

[bright sandal]

maybe manticoil? bc it senses like fresh air or smth XD

[primal ferry]

kinda makes sense ye. their need of fresh air constantly dragging them to the entrance.. impatiently waiting for you to follow them

quick question: should baboon hawks echo lot (item scan) be only visible for the owner / only apply to them, or to anyone?

[bright sandal]

i dont see why not everyone

i think the hardest ones are gonna be the mask nornets and le barber

the barber can give you a haircut 💀

snare flea could latch onto a monster to distract them, and then run off, aggroing the monster onto itself

alternatively snare flea could be like a grappling hook XD

[bright sandal]

now that i think about it, jester would prolly work better for this

but it seems kinda dumb to have a lethalmon that can only be used once per moon

oo wait i have an idea

stunned enemies should have a greater chance to be caught

gives the zap gun, radar booster and stun nade more uses

[primal ferry]

snare fleas idea was to make it heal the owner while clinging to them

[primal ferry]

nice one

really like that idea too :)

[primal ferry]

yup, agreed. would be better to find something less destructive. could maybe work if the jester gets exhausted afterwards, or stunned

[bright sandal]

oh also theres a glitch where you cant buy great balls

im pretty sure it has smth to do with the green suit - you cant buy a great ball if a green suit is in store

[bright sandal]

oh that could be cool actually

it could slow the player down and the flea could be knocked off if the player is damaged

to balance it a lil

also i have a rlly funni idea for the jester: it gets progressively easier to catch the longer it winds

and rlly difficult once it hatches

LET'S GO GAMBLING--

sheff noticed that it was kinda nnoying for the bracken to take away the monsters he wanted to capture, so maybe brackens ability shouldn't be passive but rather have a keybind or smth

also i have an idea for the hornets: you cant capture them by themselves, but rather they attack monsters after the butler "dies" (faints)

i only have one major complaint with this mod: theres no clear way of telling whats a tamed lethalmon and whats just an enemy besides scanning; i feel like there should be an outline/glow/arrow/some kinda indicator to show whether something is a lethalmon or not without you having to scan

[quick lake]

ye that's fair enough

[quick lake]

I remember when the fox first came out I suggested making it rideable cuz of the yoshi tongue xd

in retrospect it woulda been funny but that's about the extent of it

[quick lake]

maybe the little dog?

[quick lake]

ooo that's genius

[bright sandal]

tryna think of what entity could be rideable

[quick lake]

maybe masked hornets could kill bees?

[bright sandal]

also i watched austin's vid and uhh i think the fox might need a lil nerf lmao

[quick lake]

old bird I say is a pretty neat rideable one

[bright sandal]

hmm mayve

[low stag]

When a tamed monster dies, they return into their pokeball so it shouldn't be necessary to go the extent on the butler. Plus, the Circuit Bees from outside already target other monsters by stunning them.

[primal ferry]

can you link it in here please? :)

or via dm

[bright sandal]

good point -- maybe you riding them makes them to heavy to fly very high up or smth

[quick lake]

I'd already suggested an old bird ability way back when I'm p sure

[bright sandal]

sry here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ZeDstGLVs

[primal ferry]

thanks a lot!^^

[bright sandal]

i feel liek old bird should have a bunha cool abilities but a limited battery life

sure, you can ride back to the ship real fast, but its gonna waste like half your fuel

a stamina bar wouldnt make much sense bc yknow, robots

maybe the birds recharge while in pokeball and while at the ship

[quick thistle]

old bird becomes a better, more stable jetpack (real)

[bright sandal]

old bird abilities:

1. ride (2.5% fuel spent per second)
2. shoot missile (2.5% fuel spent per missile)
3. torch (effective close-range flamethrower, 10% fuel spent per second)
4. flashlight (1% fuel spent per second)

once they run out of fuel, they go into your pokeball

[bright sandal]

ye thats what i was thinking... except tulip snake alr does that. i was thinking the lore is that your added weight is too much for the 'bird, so it can only fly around on the ground or smth idk

i still feel liek old bird isnt the best candidate for riding...

[quick thistle]

perhaps instead of a jetpack you could instead use the oldbird's charge/boost that is utilized when chasing down something

sort of like a cruiser that doesn't explode if you accidentally sneeze on a rock while going above the safe speed limit

[bright sandal]

hmm

maybe you could have teh cruiser boost, but the higher up you go, the more fuel is required to ensure a safe landing

dont have enough fuel for a safe landing? looks like your lethal mon is going into the ball and youre dropping out of the air :)

i still rlly like the idea of just an entity you can RIDE ride liek the current spore lizard

the only other quadrupedal monster apart from the lizard is the dog

i feel liek the dog has a buncha missed potential in that sense

i alr proposed a doglsed idea but i reckon it'd be rawer to just straight up ride on the back of it

[quick lake]

ye I sorta came up w smth like that

.

[bright sandal]

o cool

biodiversity compat

[lime fox]

Wut

[primal ferry]

watched it and adjusted a couple things:

• Nutcracker targeting is now more accurate
• Fixed NullReferenceException when taking damage without an enemy involved
• Fixed deactivated enemies being targeted (e.g. the thumper inside the pokeball being targeted by the nutcracker somewhere near the end of the video)

Those changes will be part of the next version.

Also felt like some enemies were too niche (looking at you, dogs & butler), which made them feel "useless" when not knowing their exact usecase. Kinda wanna rework that slightly.

Also felt like bees only defending you when you take damage is a bit meh. Maybe they defend you all the time, but with a cooldown?

Will rewatch some parts of the video again tomorrow to find more things to tweak, for better gameplay. But for it's already very late here ^^

Also had constant nutracker reloading sound at some point (which might've been a result of the NullReferenceException.. will see how the next version turns out regarding that). Anyone else having one of the issues i named here and above, too?

[low stag]

By default the game doesn't allow us to scan Masked enemies. But I think it would be nice if we could scan our own so we don't get tamed masked confused with enemies.

[quick lake]

me and ham actually thought of cool lil abilities for biod enemies in this lmao

[bright sandal]

okay hear me out: there should be a lethal-ball station on the ship. a place where you can store your lethalmon safely

perhaps the lethal-balls you put in the station will only register for you, making it so that other players can't see nor take your precious lil babies

also the lethaldex should have short descriptions for wheat the lethalmon do (i can try making some)

Bracken
TYPE: GRASS-DARK
USE: Drags nearby enemies away from you.

Ghost Girl
TYPE: GHOST-PSYCHIC
USE: Teleports and damages enemies.

Hoarding Bug
TYPE: BUG-FLYING
USE: Brings you nearby loot.

Masked
TYPE: NORMAL-PSYCHIC
USE: Lends you a mask that can be used to see enemies through walls.

Bees
TYPE: BUG-ELECTRIC
USE: Stuns and damages enemies.

etc.

[frigid dock]

There are no types, it doesn't really make sense

Also I take some ideas from Pokémon but I don't want to make it a copy

[bright sandal]

there aren't any types but i feel like it's still a goofy lil' addition

[primal ferry]

• An ingame description of what they do sounds like an useful idea.
• The additional typing info would be a nice gimmick for pokemon fans, but i'm not sure if it fits well in the Lethal Company scheme.
• The pokemon machine for storing balls sounds like a super cool concept! Only drawback: There has to be a model for that machine and optionally a store animation

[frigid dock]

The model should be easy to do

[bright sandal]

i could try making a model (i dont think its gonna turn out very well considering i have like 2 hours in blender lmao) and i dont think we need a store animation - just put the balls straight in the machine

[frigid dock]

I definitely like the idea of making a PC that can:

• Copy captured mons DNA
• Duplicate it as will in empty balls
• Store balls
• Show the dex

[primal ferry]

Regarding that "shiny" idea someone mentioned: I'ld like to postpone this idea to a later point, once we got all vanilla enemies covered. It has to be tested for EnemyColorVariety compatibility and might be more effort to change their colors than it seems.
Could think about something like "Umbra" in a game called "Temtem", where we completely replace their model with a purple shade / ghost effect. But i feel like those should have something special to them like a sparkling effect when leaving the ball, a star in the HUD and maybe an extra ability.
Since all of this requires a good amount of effort, it would make more sense to go for that at a later point :)

[bright sandal]

that's fair lol
i sometimes forget this project is technically in alpha bc it's alr so good

[primal ferry]

• it's just Nysvaa & me working on it (+ awesome sounds from @weary bloom), beside our full time jobs and real life

[light rampart]

Yes the Nutcracker targeting wasn't accurate for me aswell, glad it's getting fixed

[light rampart]

I suggest that the EnemyColorVariety team work with you on this. They could make it so that if you catch an enemy with a different color, it retains that color. For example, if you catch a toy soldier nutcracker, it would always remain a toy soldier nutcracker in that color, as you initially caught it.

[quick lake]

I expanded on a concept like this a bit ago as a way to keep lethamon even if you lose them on a previous round

[quick lake]

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[quick lake]

it would be #1220501885753098250 that would have to work with them

EnemyColorVariety are just people who use the API, for actual compat they'd have to look at the API I'm p sure

unless you mean you want extract and disco to make some colors specifically for shiny colorations

but really any color from their could be a shiny coloration

[primal ferry]

Yep, have to come up with something else for shinies very likely

As this mod alone would make any one a shiny if it's a basic color change

Thought about adding

• particles
• weak light source
• sparkles at spawn

The light source itself might be good enough of a buff, so that there's no need for extra abilities for shinies

Also an audio clip at spawn for the sparkles

[light rampart]

Ah yes my mistake that's the mod i'm looking for

[lime fox]

i dont think theres any need for depending on any mod

[primal ferry]

Also maybe small sparkles around the ball if it's a shiny inside

[lime fox]

it depends on how the enemy skin registry replaces textures and models, but it can't be doing it in a way that u cant just access without knowledge of the mod existing, it just replaces the current references

my assumption anyway

[quick lake]

no, there wouldn't be

I was just clarifying it cuz a lot of people don't know enemy skin registry is an api that enemy color variety uses

[light rampart]

I like those ideas. The light source could be something between a flashlight and a proflash. For the ball, I think it should change into a Premier Ball with a faint lamp glow, and then have a sparkle effect when you send it out.

[quick lake]

I want people to recognize my goat antlershed's work 🙏

[lime fox]

lol

[quick lake]

that's actually a great idea

them giving off light is a great side ability and I'm fairly sure we have no mons with flashlight abilities, right?

[quick lake]

particles/sparkles at spawn would be cool

if you want recolor ideas for the shinies I'm all for working on those

you know I'm sneaking an ugly ass green shiny in there though

the spirit of game freak compels me to

[primal ferry]

Will look into it later today 🙈

[primal ferry]

Oh btw, are you "sheff Austin" on yt?

Likely a dumb question^^

[light rampart]

No that guy is too cool to be someone like me haha

[frigid dock]

A friend wants to try to do a PC model for the ship

I'll try to do something cool to keep or duplicate mons, with an host option that allows to bring them from other saves

[primal ferry]

Sounds sick!

Curious to see what you two will be cooking

[frigid dock]

How did I missed that

It never happened to me

[violet shale]

bio-monty why did you block me 🥺

[light rampart]

My friends and I were so shocked when it happened the first time

[primal ferry]

it didn't happen to me during my tests, but i've patched the method that kills you and added a check for being tamed in there, so it should never happen again, if the bracken is tamed

new version once Nysvaa is back at pc and had time for double-checking my changes :)

[light rampart]

Sounds good! I really appreciate the fix, and I’m looking forward to it!

[frigid dock]

Sunday evening or monday evening

[bright sandal]

wait thats a pretty cool idea to give shiny lethalmon a bit more to them

also coil-head could like... boost/bounce you

you can look at it to stop it boosting you

[primal ferry]

Fixed being stuck in ground after using an entrance while flying with the tulip snake

Also in next version

[frigid dock]

Thanks for working on the bugs :)

If you have time I noted two "big" bugs:

• If you capture a bracken dragging a player with SnatchinBracken, the player will be stuck. As the author doesn't answer, I think we can fix it ourselves
• Pokeball clip through the ground if the ground is a catwalk

[primal ferry]

What's a catwalk in lethal?

[bright sandal]

those walkways in the facility maps

with yellow banisters

[primal ferry]

Ah alright

Thanks^^

[bright sandal]

actually i think the metal grate in the facility main entrance room is technically a catwalk

the walkway around the ship is also a catwak

ya get the point

[frigid dock]

Yes grounds with holes like that

Or in the entrance

If you throw the ball it sometimes clip

[primal ferry]

I only noticed that it clips through the ground while the ship is still moving

[frigid dock]

Maybe there is something to do with layers

[primal ferry]

but that's barely pos without debugging xd

ye maybe, will investigate

[frigid dock]

Oh it makes sense lol

But I'm sure that it already happened to me while the ship landed in a normal game

If you throw it with left click

[primal ferry]

will throw balls a hundred times now ⛹🏻‍♂️

[frigid dock]

Or maybe try in other places

[primal ferry]

ahhhh okay, got it

[frigid dock]

Idk

[primal ferry]

it happens when you aim at the yellow borders

cause the game might calculate the drop position at the wall on the sides, while the ball always collides with the yellow borders, making it simply drop

[frigid dock]

How can we fix that?

[primal ferry]

https://gyazo.com/bed2953d6ef5e16afdbba2a7770e7f31.gif

not sure, but here's a preview

maybe this quick&dirty fix 🤷🏻‍♂️ have no clue what exactly happens in that item throw calculation (yet)

[frigid dock]

Does the bug also happens with flash grenades ?

I copied the code of that item

[bright sandal]

maybe just make it so that whenever the balls hit a kill barrier, they teleport to the nearest player or smth?

and if that player dies within a timer, the ball doesn't tp

(so if a player dies, the ball wouldnt teleport to some other guy whos currently at ship watching the terminal or smth)

[primal ferry]

very likely

hmm, the kill barrier one is a good idea, but might get quickly complicated. but also better solution than mine from above

[frigid dock]

Maybe we should rework the throw algorithm entirely

[bright sandal]

imma test rq

could get it to land on top of the banister
was my aim that bad or does it just not work?

(prolly my aim lmao)

[primal ferry]

aim a bit lower

at round about half of the banister

[bright sandal]

will test tmrw, gtg eepy now

night

[primal ferry]

gn8

[lime fox]

It's due to the raycast code iirc

It was something weird

Doing it at specific angles resulted in it forever falling down

Happens with Easter eggs

Stun grenades

I've been meaning to rewrite that but so far the fix is just don't aim the Throw at certain angles from forward view +-15

[quick lake]

the balls clipping thru the ground on catwalks happens to a lot of items on catwalks, they're really messed up hehahah

[quick lake]

happened to me with a fucking engine yesterday 😭

[lime fox]

Oh wait

This isn't the thing about throwing items?

U mean literally just dropping?

Yeah that's just raycasts hitting "nothing" therefore the item drops in front of you with a raycast pointing down, which hits waaaay down

[quick lake]

mhm

sometimes if you drop things at a weird angle you can make shit just drop thru catwalks

it HAS mostly happened to me with eggs and stuns

but it happened to me once or twice w items

[lime fox]

It's not really about the item

[quick lake]

mind you I wasn't close to an edge

[lime fox]

It's about where you as the player is looking

And if there's an object in front of you

[quick lake]

I assumed it would be harder to get bigger items to clip thru

[lime fox]

Which is why if you dropped while inside the cruiser looking up

[quick lake]

yee

[lime fox]

The item will automatically be above the cruiser

[lime fox]

Nah, basically same idea

[quick lake]

makes sense

[primal ferry]

Happened to me with an engine too once.. even recorded it, but it's somewhere hidden in subfolders on my pc

Also on catwalk

[lime fox]

Probably because the railing collisions dont actually contain the entire railing, just the top part of it

[old quest]

Did you guys make the Pokeballs Heavier?

[frigid dock]

No they're supposed to be 11 lbs currently

[primal ferry]

Update time! Gonna check later what changed and if the mod is still fully compatible.
If anyone knows what the new enemy is and does then DM me the spoiler please^^

[primal ferry]

|| https://gyazo.com/0036acd33f34caf68a91c1e7df1c96c2 ||
Time to work on some v60 stuff ^^
Any ideas for the behaviour?
My suggestion: ||It hates loud environments. Any voices (except owner, who's voice decrease it) increase the stress level. Silence or shaking it from time to time decrease it. If it reaches a certain point, it morphs into the aggressive phase and kills the last voice source, no matter if player or enemy). Goes back to chill phase afterwards.||

[light rampart]

It can be like a Magikarp, not useful until it enters the aggressive phase and starts attacking anything that makes a sound in close proximity to its owner, similar to the final phase of an eyeless dog

[thorny knot]

I like it, ||rock it|| if you dont want it to attack, let it get mad otherwise

[primal ferry]

Ye, ||rocking would decrease the stress level. If someone other than the holder holds it out will drastically increase the stress level towards that player, if someone else rocks it, it would attack within a second or so I could imagine||

[frigid dock]

I'm working on the design of the PC. Should I keep a terminal or can I do a basic GUI interface like a windows 98? I prefer the second idea but idk

As it's an "advanced" technology it may be ok

[primal ferry]

Or buttons on the model itself that will get triggers added to them?

Otherwise both seems fine to me :)

[light rampart]

I like the incorporation of that

[royal matrix]

Even though you cant capture the baby yet. Does it still work with v60?

[primal ferry]

so far i haven't found any incompatibiliteis, but i've only done the very basic tests. Nysvaa will do some when he's back at home. Lmk if you guys find any or if it's fully compatible :)

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [v61 / 0.4.8 - alpha]

0.4.8

• v61 compatibility
• You can now find filled balls in the dungeon
• Nutcracker stops shooting at invisible enemies and its line of sight is now more accurate (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Tooltip are now properly hidden when a monster is called back (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Fixed a bug that could make the player go underground with the tulip snake (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Big code refactoring and cleanup (thanks to @NiroDev)

[low stag]

Is there gonna be a feature where a player dies with a pokeball, it returns into their inventory instead of being dropped? Or will that be too broken?

[frigid dock]

I'm currently working on that. On making the mod less punishing. It can be a possibility actually

But I prefer the idea of having a PC where you can duplicate monsters as will (as long as you have empty balls). It'll be less broken, and it'll require money in order to keep your monsters

[frigid dock]

0.4.9

• Fixed a softlock on ship ladders if a player has a monster out
• Bees now stun on sight and have a cooldown

[rough pewter]

How common are the filled balls?

I hope it's not something I find once in a lifetime

Haven't tested yet but hopefully it's high enough to feel fun

[frigid dock]

50% by default but it's configurable

[rough pewter]

Oooh nice

[light rampart]

My friend was very greatful to find a thumper I really love this update

[rustic snow]

Yo maybe lethalmon insurance could be a thing? Where you buy insurance for your monsters so they don't disappear when you die

[thorny knot]

Pet insurance

[low stag]

Will lethalmon allow captured monsters to follow you around at the company building? For now they just stand there idle and can't move. I know NavMashInCompany fixes this issue, but wondering if Lethalmon will have a similar feature built-in it so others don't need to individually install a separate mod for them to work there.

[primal ferry]

As it's not a simple code adjustment to make it work it would be the best to disable having your tamed mon out in the company building as long as this mod isn't enabled. Could add it as a note on the readme then.
A hard dependency on Thunderstore would also solve this, but I'm not a huge fan of those and rather want to keep them as little as possible

[fallen crown]

its happened 3 times now 😂

[primal ferry]

Will have to check that again 👀
Could be another mod doing an even earlier patch that skips ours entirely, or a desync from our side.
Is there any other mod in your modlist that could change the brackens behavior?

I'll do more checks when home again. Do you remember if you were the host this round?

Once we found the cause for this it could be a neat config option to set a percentage for this to happen intentionally 😅

[frigid dock]

The best fix would be to find where in the code the bracken behavior is set to 1

[primal ferry]

@frigid dock i was fairly sure it would've been fixed with the second patch in here: https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon/blob/master/LethalMon/Patches/FlowermanAIPatch.cs

[fallen crown]

nah no mods the affect brackens

[primal ferry]

As this patch tells for OnColliderWithPlayer: If there is an owner of this bracken, then don't run the code for killing the player.
So it's either "client owns bracken but host has ownerPlayer set to null" or "there's another code part that calls the kill rpc" or "another prefix skips ours" imo

[primal ferry]

Have you restarted the game since then? (if not, can you please share the LogOutput in the BepInEx directory)? Maybe there's an exception in the log preventing our code to run correctly 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fallen crown]

it was are first run wth the mod but heres the log

[primal ferry]

Hmm, haven't found anything in the code yet that could cause it.. but found an exception for masked in it, so it already helped a lot ^^

And.. baboon hawk and dog fighting each other heavily in the logs (there are like 50+ exceptions in a row for that :p)

[fallen crown]

yeah got a dog it was also like really small is that suppost to happen?

[primal ferry]

Yep it's a pet dog :)

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [v61 / 0.4.9 - alpha]

[thorny knot]

STEVEN WHAT DID YOU DO

[primal ferry]

I also love that he's so calm afterwards, like it's the most reasonable and acceptable thing ever to kill a crewmate if they cross its path

[light rampart]

At least it will be optional now I guess

[primal ferry]

https://gyazo.com/dd03176d1351a8df486db09c5cf6cc6f
enjoy this unnoticed bug that happens when you retreive a tamed masked while they're lending you their mask :p

i love how it looks like they're rotating, while in reality they aren't ^^

[light rampart]

That's so trippy bugs like this are cool

[lime fox]

I need more bugs that break ur game instead

[bright sandal]

thats kinda goofy lol

[frigid dock]

0.4.10

• The less an enemy has health, the more it is easy to catch (thanks to @NiroDev)
• The nutcracker's steps are now less loud
• Fixed a bug that didn't remove the mask if a player retrieved the masked while wearing the mask (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Fixed a bug that made the balls collide with the cruiser and sometimes make it go upside down
• Mirage mod compatibility: prevent tamed monsters from mimicking the players voices
• SnatchinBracken mod compatibility: Make the bracken drop dragged players when captured
• Fixed bees behaviour

LethalMon [v62 / 0.4.10 - alpha]

[primal ferry]

Baboon hawk is in testing phase.
Maneater behaviour is round about 75% done i'ld say. Animations and finetuning left

[rough pewter]

What will the man-eater do?

[lime fox]

EAT MAN

[light rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-detective-pikachu-pikachu-magnifying-glass-cute-gif-15629921

[primal ferry]

close enough :p
it will be mostly passive, but once it attacks you better haven't stressed it earlier

when it's done, it will go back to its baby phase. it will also be the first tamed enemy that ||can kill the tamer under some circumstances||

[light rampart]

very interesting mechanic curious to see how it will play out

[quick lake]

ooo super cool, been away since v60 came out cuz I wanted to avoid spoilers

[primal ferry]

Hope I didn't spoiler you too much with it

[quick lake]

I don't think so no hahahah

[frigid dock]

New throw algorithm in progress 👀

[lime fox]

send me the code afterwards thx

[frigid dock]

Sure

[jovial ledge]

Send me credit card info afterwards thx

[frigid dock]

It will only work for spheres tho

Or you'll have to consider your item as a sphere

[lime fox]

it okay, im used to recoding stuff

[light rampart]

There is an issue with the bracken when using the NymphBracken model for some reason it's stuck in a T pose state I tested it with another bracken model changer (Freddy bracken) and it works perfectly fine with that one

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[thorny knot]

I know modded enemies cannot be captured but pls make this biodiversity compatible

[light rampart]

It's not a "modded enemy" technically it's a model replacement of the bracken

[thorny knot]

?

[light rampart]

?

[thorny knot]

Im talking abt biodiversity like the aloe and that

[gleaming wind]

if i had to guess probably just a bug since the nymph uses custom animations

[light rampart]

ah makes sense

[frigid dock]

Maybe later, we first focus on vanilla monsters

[thorny knot]

Yay

[jovial ledge]

most biodiversity enemies are very similar to vanilla enemies and im assuming finding unique ideas for them that dont just copy vanilla will be quite a challenge

[thorny knot]

The aloe can hold you and protect you

[jovial ledge]

kinda lame though...

also shes supposed to heal you

but just healing is also kinda boring

[thorny knot]

Fair

[vapid escarp]

You guys are genius!

I love this mod dear god

[bright sandal]

heads-up: if y'all are planning on adding the ||maneater|| make sure that it ||won't eat scrap bc yes maneaters eat scrap lol||

[frigid dock]

It's one of the most difficult thing I have done yet

There are a lot of physics calculus it makes me crazy lol

[bright sandal]

whoa that's smooth af

[primal ferry]

it won't :) i'm working on it's behaviour and i'm familiar with the code and know it could.. but implementing its behaviour itself is already a ton of work as its base code is so complex

[vapid escarp]

wanted to ask, what is up with the ghost mask thing ?

[frigid dock]

The ghost appears if you fail to capture a masked

[vapid escarp]

Thanks a lot :3

[primal ferry]

https://gyazo.com/e332f5bc7fa379acc66c5042d1a88ddf

[rough pewter]

So cool

This mod just keeps getting better and better

I love it

One of my favorite mods

[light rampart]

Will players finally stop attacking tamed mobs after this update I wonder lol

[tame cliff]

Does using the bracken to drag enemies away work with the snatchingbracken mod?

[frigid dock]

Yes, if you try to catch a bracken dragging another player away, it makes him release the player

[tame cliff]

Is that the "Freddybracken"-mod? Still working for the current game version?

[tame cliff]

Oh nice thanks

[tame cliff]

Oh yea i see it now

Cool mod dude

And the allies just stay on the moon when you leave with the ship?

[frigid dock]

Tamed monsters? No, they are automatically retrieved on the ship

Or you can retrieve them manually with P (configurable)

[tame cliff]

Oh so they accompany you all the time? How many tamed monsters can you have? 1? How do you untame?

[frigid dock]

Yes, 1, you can't, you can only retrieve them in their balls

But you can lose them if you die or leave the moon without the ball

[tame cliff]

So the balls in the inv say what monster they contain?

[frigid dock]

Yes

Currently you need to place the ball and scan it but later it will be visible on the ball

[tame cliff]

What if you get a ball from another player and throw it on the ground? Is it your monster then?

[light rampart]

It is yeah

[thorny knot]

Copy this algorithm to the eggs for the sake of it pls

[jovial ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgVXwJSNcB0 Lethal mon mentioned

[frigid dock]

So cool!

It gives a great preview of the mod

[primal ferry]

It really does! Thanks for sharing it with us :)

[frigid dock]

New throw algorithm finished soon. I still have to find why balls go through door

[primal ferry]

so damn good 👀 🔥

[rough pewter]

Scrap going through doors is a vanilla issue I think

Throwing eggs also goes through doors, I believe

The ThrowEverything mod has this problem too

[frigid dock]

I fixed the issue

[blazing tide]

If they're remaking the throw algorithm, they may as well look into it tbh

[frigid dock]

I think I will release the algorithm for everyone and make a small mod to fix the egg

Like a library

[rough pewter]

That's a very good idea

I wonder if the maker of ThrowEverything can use this to their advantage

Maybe also find a way to add different weights to different items

[frigid dock]

Actually my algorithm only works for spheres

[rough pewter]

But you said earlier that you could make any item count as a sphere

[frigid dock]

Yes but it will look weird on non sphere items

[rough pewter]

How weird?

Weird can be good

[frigid dock]

Like clipping through walls or floating above the ground

[rough pewter]

Oh

Awwww

[quick lake]

that's so fucking COOL dude

I would look into making the throw a little faster? it looks a tad floaty but the fact you guys got it to bounce off the fucking wall is insane dude

[quick lake]

you're so insanely cool

[frigid dock]

I can try to increase the gravity.
I had to go back to school with physics formula like parabolas or projection of vectors on planes haha

[quick lake]

that sounds like some complicated ass shit

[quick lake]

ye if it's not smth that's hard to do for you that'd be really cool

also, prepping a doc to show you about the stuff I told you in dms

[frigid dock]

Thanks! I can't wait to see the result

[thorny knot]

Can this get lcvr compatibility where you have to actually throw the ball

I say can as in, can it be done, and can we pls do it

[frigid dock]

I won't make it a priority, sorry. There are much more important features to release first.
Also I don't have a VR headset

[thorny knot]

Awwe man

[bright sandal]

yoooo this is amazing!! !

im not even gonna begin to think about the math it took for that—

[gleaming wind]

i think every time a player dies, every creature returns to their ball? i watched a friend die and my eyeless dog vanished.
also, should probably change it to actually say the player name instead of player0 or player3 for clarification.

[frigid dock]

I will check that, it's a possible bug

[frigid dock]

Do you talk about the text above monsters that Niro developed but that isn't released yet?

[gleaming wind]

kinda, i did see that, it's pretty cool. wasn't sure if you were replacing that with the scan text or not.

btw, random thing but wouldn't it make more sense to have the bracken always standing upright instead of doing their sneaking animation?

make people more aware of his presence n whatnot

[primal ferry]

My text probably only shows the player with a number because it was in LAN mode without steam involved, as I started it directly from the exe

We will see when it comes out, but I'm confident it will show the correct name :)

[frigid dock]

I tested it and it's the correct name yes. I fixed it on the scan node however

[primal ferry]

perfect 👌🏻

[frigid dock]

Quick survey. I want to make an optional reserved slot for the balls, with ReservedItemSlot.
Do you prefer to have a config field (true/false) to enable it (available only if you have the not required ReservedItemSlot mod) or do you prefer an new mod (like LethalMonReservedSlot) that you have to include in your modpack and that depends on LethalMon and ReservedItemSlot?

[lime fox]

Easier on urself if its a new mod

Soft dependencies can be really annoying

[light rampart]

Downloading more mods for a feature that can be added to an existing modpack would take up less space, so players modpacks won't get too big.

[frigid dock]

Both arguments are valid, the first one makes it hidden, because you have to both have the soft dependency and look into the config.
The second one takes more place into modpacks

[lime fox]

I'm personally not a fan of people who ask fix mods etc to merge into one mod just so their modpack can appear to be smaller, the content is the exact same

[light rampart]

It's not a personal issue for me. I am just speaking for players who complain about too many mods being in a modpack and that have low end PCs.

[frigid dock]

Is it really impacting performances? I'm not sure

[light rampart]

The more mods/modpacks you have do take up storage, which can impact performance, especially if your storage drive is close to being full.

[frigid dock]

It will be like 2 ko vs 1 ko

I made up the numbers but it will not be really high

[lime fox]

There is almost 0 difference between the two implementation in file size lol

[frigid dock]

0.5.0

• Baboon hawk is now catchable (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Throw algorithm has been greatly improved in order to prevent clipping and make it more natural
• Tamed monsters now have {owner}'s {monster} above them and parameters are configurable (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Balls are now smaller
• Balls now fall correctly after a capture
• Masked xray distance is now configurable (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Fixed tamed monsters owner's name in the scan node
• Fixed tulip snake being stuck in air when stopped controlling from too high (thanks to @NiroDev)

A big update 🙂

As a lot of things changed, please tell me if it is incompatible with another mod

LethalMon [v62 / 0.5.0 - alpha]

[light rampart]

100+ mods are nothing compared to that

[rough pewter]

What does Baboon do?

[frigid dock]

It's on the mod page: Echo-localizes items and defends you

[rough pewter]

Oh cool

Does he attack any monster, including non hostile ones?

I don't want him massacring my loot bugs ;w;

[lime fox]

Can I has link to throw code

[primal ferry]

Yep he does, but in a smaller range from you (a bit less than the start room of the base interior). The damage is very low and the cooldown for attacking quite high though

[primal ferry]

It's here: https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon/blob/821d2b4f9538471e83487a10dbc594591993862c/LethalMon/Throw/ThrowableItem.cs

[lime fox]

Thanksies

Interesting way to get the radius

Makes sense though

[frigid dock]

The code is for spherical items so yeah it makes sense in this case

[frigid dock]

I'm looking for people to help with this mod, as it takes time to develop and all.

I currently need:

• A modeler for a PC (a bit like the terminal, and no animation). More info in DM if you're interested (and you can obviously refuse even after DMing)
• Coders willing to make vanilla monsters catchable. It can be a good exercise for people willing to improve their coders skill, as the base code is already done. So no need to be an expert
• Eventually testers, if some people are motivated to test the mod

[frigid dock]

I don't know if it's better to make a post in #1210315682613436446 or elsewhere

[lime fox]

i got dms when i put it in my mods page

i wrote this at the top of my mod's thunderstore page and got dms of people wanting ot help

most didnt really do anything at the end but u might find people

[frigid dock]

(please ignore the shitty model)

[primal ferry]

Such modern, very wow ._.

[frigid dock]

Compared to the terminal...

But it won't be really modern, it will be more like a windows xp or 98

[bright sandal]

yooo this is a pretty cool start

[vapid escarp]

Daaang

Didn't expect the mod to go this hard

[frigid dock]

This PC will have the following features:

• Mod tutorial (with images)
• LethalDex (3D model of the monster rotating (or just an image if it's too hard), catch rates, behaviours...)
• Scan balls in order to copy monsters DNA. Then it will be unlocked forever. But only original monsters can be scanned, not duplicated or balls already filled as they are missing some DNA parts
• Duplicate unlocked monsters with the previous feature in empty balls (maybe with a small cost)
• A secret feature later :)

[lime fox]

broooo WINDOWS XP???

3d model of hte monster rotating should be available on the bestiary of every enemy btw

[light rampart]

I love testing for bugs im in

[frigid dock]

Thanks, I'll ping you when we'll need tests

[frigid dock]

Does someone want to work on this model or on the screen wallpaper or icons ?

[light rampart]

Sure I can work on the wallpaper and Icons but i am not good at 3D modeling

[frigid dock]

It has to be in the industrial and dark theme of the game, and relatively simple

Also the icons are : tutorial, scan, duplicate and lethaldex. Square icons, I will put them side by side

In the middle

[primal ferry]

Closer than i thought it would be

[bright sandal]

forever as in this run or forever as in for as long as you have the mod downloaded

[primal ferry]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Niro/LethalMonReservedSlot/

[frigid dock]

Forever like until the end of the world

But I'll maybe make it host based to prevent cheaters

[bright sandal]

fair enough

[quick lake]

wouldn't the lethal dex just be the bestiary entries?

[frigid dock]

Yes but graphic + with lethalmon info

[quick lake]

oh so info specific to their abilities

that's super cool!

[keen maple]

Is there a bug where ghost girl haunting other players can be heard by everyone for some reason last time I played this most we had a issue where everyone could hear ghost girl but when I stopped playing with this mod ghost girl sfx worked as normal we recently started playing with this mod again as of the new version 60 update and this issue reoccurred

[primal ferry]

I will take a look later if it's accidently triggered for everyone

[low stag]

Is this gonna be included as a dependency when people install Lethal Mon?

[frigid dock]

No, you add this mod only if you want to

[low stag]

Gotcha

[keen maple]

Alright thank you

[low stag]

Does the captured bracken still kill their owners or teammates?

[frigid dock]

I don't know. I spend a lot of time trying to reproduce the bug but I can't find why

@primal ferry tried to fix the issue but idk if it worked

[primal ferry]

It didn't.. will have to add more logging for the next version. Also I'm playing today with my group so if it happens I may know more

[rough pewter]

Balls you purchase from the terminal disappear when you die

Is this intentional?

I thought they'd count as proper equipment

I was so sad when I lost my balls

[frigid dock]

Check the config, you can keep them if you want to

[rough pewter]

Thank you!

[tame cliff]

doesnt each monster have their own capture probability? so when you set something else than 0 in this slider it overwrites every capture probability so that every monster has this one capture probability of this slider?

[primal ferry]

It adds/subtracts to it. Internally we have a difficulty of 1-9 where 9 is the hardest. If you set this to let's say -2, then an enemy with a 9 will have a difficulty of 7 now, while an enemy that previously had a 4 will have a 2 now :)

[tame cliff]

oh okay nice thanks

[tame cliff]

How do the spawn weights in the dungeon actually work. I assume they are not their own pool? So the weights work in the context of all other spawnable scrap? how do i know if a weight of 20 is much? @primal ferry

[frigid dock]

20 is normal for a vanilla game. But the more scraps mods you have, the lower the chance of spawning a ball there is. In my own modpack, I found that 40 is good because we often find balls. I think that the solution is to test it yourself by playing. If you don't see enough balls then you increase this weight

[tame cliff]

is there a way to empty the ball to get another monster with it? @frigid dock @primal ferry

[frigid dock]

No

[scenic ocean]

Hey thank you for the mod it's amazing !

Just wanted to report in case it's not already known that mounting the spore lizard seems to make me invincible to certain enemies like the jester because they are bodyblocked by the lizard and can't reach me. Is it a known issue ?

[frigid dock]

I wasn't aware of it, thanks for the bug report!

[scenic ocean]

Glad if I can help !

[primal ferry]

Good guy lizard trying to help out more than it should, ye

[primal ferry]

oh ye, noticed that too in my tests. The collision detection is a bit "not so on point" here 🥲 Will temporary replace it with "checking distance" again till we found a reliable solution for this one. Currently reworking the ghost girl a bit internally

Gj ghost girl... gj

The teleport happens when it's too far away from you though, so at least that's intended ^^ it's the same for any tamed enemy

[dawn crystal]

no i knew that

[tame cliff]

the "tamed" nutcracker seems to not shoot masked enemies... maybe its because im using lethalintelligence but its still a masked enemy.. so it should recognize it right? the nutcracker just doesnt do anything to them when theyre standing right beside him. also the hoarding bug rarely goes to get items.

[low stag]

Anyone having their pokeball clipping through the ship when sometimes dropping it? I've been having this issue since this new update. A pokeball is sometimes lost in the process.

[rough pewter]

I got this bug too

It seems to happen when you put it in the cabinet

The pokeballs appear outside the ship for whatever reason

[dawn crystal]

fuck the cupboard anyways

hate that thing

[primal ferry]

Is it happening over time or already when placing it there?

[rough pewter]

I place it there and then a few seconds later it's gone

[frigid dock]

I forgot to test this 😢

[primal ferry]

Maybe wrong object parenting 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lime fox]

your network object

show the settings

you're the last message so imma ping you @primal ferry

[primal ferry]

https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon/blob/master/LethalMon/Items/PokeballItem.cs
It's in here. I'm not at home currently

Line 56

[lime fox]

you guys scare me

also there's no code there for the NetworkObject lol

im pretty srue yall just have a bad setting turned on in NetworkObject

nvm, just checked through the unity assets

[frigid dock]

What are you scared of?

[lime fox]

why is it a generic component function lol

also a lot of tryget from networkobjectreference to networkobject, but kinda can just use it the same way/cast it straight up

[frigid dock]

Because we have 4 types of balls

[lime fox]

i usually just assign that stuff into the prefab 😭

[primal ferry]

Oh ye, have to tidy that part up a bit^^

I think I can remove the generic part of it completely. There used to be some other things in that method that I sorted it earlier, so that it's not really required to be generic anymore

[frigid dock]

I like this generic part

[primal ferry]

Having all the balls registered at one central point is nice ye, just the T might be obsolete. I kinda like it too though^^

[bright sandal]

uhhh i think my pokeball just noclipped-

[frigid dock]

How did it happen? You threw it?

[jovial ledge]

that pokeball is lost to the backrooms

[prime plover]

I cant wait for the Spider and the Coilhead mons, i wonder what they can do to help with our scrap runs XD

[dawn crystal]

spider is obvious

coil head can block doorways so stuff cant go through it maybe

i will say

im really impressed by how little errors there are in this mod

i kept checking the log for specific things and i didnt get many at all

i still would kind of like something thats not just
yknow
pokeballs
kinda too on the nose i think

but whatever

also expected a lot of monsters to be op but they arent really
minus bugged stuff like the spore lizard

speaking of bugs
baboon hawk echo location isnt working im pretty sure
and eyeless dogs are disfunctional

[frigid dock]

More is coming, but it takes a lot of time to develop

[dawn crystal]

no i mean id like an original capture device

not more items

[prime plover]

@jovial ledge the only thing i cant wait is i wanna have a pet spider or even best the Forest Giant to protecc me 😂

[frigid dock]

Very soon, @quick lake is working on it

[dawn crystal]

oh ok

[jovial ledge]

he still hasnt finished his design?

[prime plover]

Probably i think the Spider can slow dosn enemies with its web and attacks them? 🤔

[jovial ledge]

i thought he worked on it a few weeks ago

[frigid dock]

Design is done, he is working on the models right now

[quick lake]

yeh, I was gonna make em w Sipho but he got busy, so I asked ham and he's been p quick w it, he did 2 models on monday and one today, then we'll probably do the last one later today

just gotta texture paint em n stuff

[frigid dock]

We all have a personal life, it can takes time

[prime plover]

Not sure about Coil heads and Jester but i would see one of these monsters can actually packed a punch to the monsters that actually cannot be killed lol

[dawn crystal]

jester can be an extension ladder

i just think that would be really funny

you can already stand on top of it when it isnt popped

[prime plover]

Or maybe, the Jester can scare away the enemies tho

Oh wait...we have Bracken who drags enemies away..

[dawn crystal]

that
isnt the same thing?

[prime plover]

Yeah thats why

Im dumb

My brain cells are leaving me

[rough pewter]

This happened to me at the company casino when I retrieved it. Retrieving the monsters on uneven ground seems to make the balls clip through the ground

[bright sandal]

yeah

[primal ferry]

Can you stand on the jester while it's moving? Don't think I've ever tested this, if that's even possible in vanilla

[prime plover]

I ask chatgpt of what the Spider would do in Lethalmon and this is what it gives...

What do you guys think? 🤔

[dawn crystal]

i think you shouldnt use chatgpt

trollface

[prime plover]

Why tho? 🤔 Not accurate?

[thorny knot]

How tf did it know what lethalmon is and what you mean

[prime plover]

I explain to it

[thorny knot]

When i try that it forgets instantly

[prime plover]

See,m

@thorny knot

[thorny knot]

Huh

Cool

[prime plover]

Ye then there some that actually quite make sense and theres....not really that makes sense lol

Like this one for example

[quick lake]

these were all things we said in this thread so I'm convinced discord is selling all of this thread's data to companies for AI training

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-smile-gif-14040974

[primal ferry]

Thought the same^^

That.. or some people here are chatgpt bots disguised as real people 👀

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[rough pewter]

When is Nintendo sending the cease and desist

[frigid dock]

We'll change the balls models soon enough

And then we will have nothing in common except the idea

and Nintendo doesn't own the concept

[wild ruin]

Does anyone here have a bug that makes capture balls fall through the ship floor and disappear?

[rough pewter]

This currently happens with a fair bit of terrain

Didn't know the ship was one of them

Does it clip through after calling the creature back into the ball?

Or just when you drop it

[frigid dock]

Does it happen often?

[wild ruin]

i dropped it while the ship was in orbit. The ball fell through the ship floor and into the void.

[rough pewter]

Haven't had this issue. I thought most items weren't allowed to be picked up in orbit

[wild ruin]

No, atleast not for me yet

[wild ruin]

Oh, I use the mod to pick up items in orbit.

[rough pewter]

This mod probably didn't account for that then

Just wait till the developer responds though

I'm just guessing here

[frigid dock]

Before the game starts?

[wild ruin]

It also happens when the ship is on the ground too, but at least it can be picked back up by going to the bottom of the ship.

[frigid dock]

As I rewrote the code for the fall, the mod maybe didn't fill all the required fields

[wild ruin]

Yeah, both that when while between quota, I am using this mod to pick up stuff before ship land. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NutNutty/AlwaysPickup/

For now, I put those capture balls on the table or on the terminal to prevent it from falling off the ship.

[frigid dock]

Looked at the code, it shouldn't have any impact

I will do more tests then

[wild ruin]

I don't know if the bottom ship window from the ship windows mod causes the ship hit box to be weird, but that's just my guess.

[frigid dock]

It can be

[primal ferry]

Maybe it's on the transparentFX layer 🤷🏻‍♂️

[frigid dock]

I don't think so, else all items would clip

[primal ferry]

Also true

[frigid dock]

@wild ruin can you send me your modpack?

[bright sandal]

o yea i actually had the same idea

i also thought it'd be neat if the cobwebs reduced your fall damage

[prime plover]

Or...more like the cobwebs helps to slow down enemies

OR...The Spider can be able to help you to navigate through the entrance, in case you get stucked.

This is just my opinion, i mean its up to the developers

[bright sandal]

ah yes, thx chatgpt

[primal ferry]

Ask it for the other remaining enemies please^^

Jester, robot, manticoil and barber

And doggo maybe too, as it's too niche rn

I think blob as item carrier, earth worm as fast traveling option with oneshotting outside enemies as usual, forest giant as shield and Maneater as hardly controllable offensive mon would be fine enough already. Maybe another idea for the worm 🤷🏻‍♂️

[bright sandal]

honestly i think dog should also get spore lizard riding mechanics and spore lizard should get smth else

[bright sandal]

it doesnt know what the odl bird is lmfao it just made up an entity

[primal ferry]

Robot

[bright sandal]

ok well i feel like old bird has a lot of uses

it has a flashlight for a head, speakers to lure dogs, a claw for items, it can fly...

nto to mention a flamethrower

[rough pewter]

I came up with a few non AI ideas
I feel like there's only one thing the old bird can and should do

Make it controllable! Left click could be one move (fire rockets) and right click could be another (flamethrower)

Make it the hardest entity to catch though since it'll probably be op

Maybe the crewmate could sit on the old bird's shoulder when you're mounting it

Could also just give it an autopilot mode where you just send it out and it goes out and kills everything

Manticoil could remove fall damage and maybe carry an item while following you at all times (it's basically an extra inventory slot)

Manticoil could also make you floaty like you're in zero gravity

[bright sandal]

i had a rlly similar ide actually

[rough pewter]

It's a pretty on the nose idea

I mean, what else would a killer robot do

[bright sandal]

you could like look thru its camera and fly it back to the ship

jester could have two modes: carrying loot (like a box) and super crazy ape kill everything before it gets tired mode

[rough pewter]

If it does have that killer mode it should be a one time use per moon

Otherwise it'll be far too op

[bright sandal]

either that or u have to manually wind the jester

and it'd get really tired after going ape

[rough pewter]

Oooh I like the idea of manually winding! This could also play into the negatives that the author was trying to add. (Like the Nutcracker killing players if they get in the way)

It'll take precious time out of your scrap run

But in return you'll have a clear facility until the monsters respawn in a couple in-game hours

Failing a jester capture should make him pop out instantly

But he still starts at his slow speed and then ramps up

[low stag]

Maybe Old Bird can be an exosuit of some sort since it'll likely be smaller once caught. Its lore can be some what of a smaller prototype used for warfare compared to the big ones. When mounting, you'll be put into 3rd person view

Advantages & Disadvantages:

• Higher defense (or have 150 hp since 100 HP is internally the max for the Employee). Like, it takes two hits from the spider to kill you But instead it takes 3.
• Rocket Fire. Two shots is all you have until cool down resets. Teammates caught in the blast can be accidentally killed
• Jet Pack gimmick (hold the jump button to trigger and use like a Jet pack). Can run out and has cooldown.
• Weight is increased heavily and you're more vulnerable. Can still instant death by land mine, Bracken, Dogs, etc.

[frigid dock]

Do you have a code or mod manager file?

It takes too much time adding them 1 by 1

Also I can't manage to make the balls clip

I tried a lot of things and it doesn't work, I don't understand

[rough pewter]

Become old bird

I like that too

[bright sandal]

ooo that could be rlly cool actually

would also be neat if you could use the claw to grab an object/player (no entities tho)

just run up to your teammate, pick 'em up, fly them away from the ship and leave XD

[prime plover]

Oh wait, what aboit Coilhead tho? 🤔

[primal ferry]

still collecting ideas ^^ so far we got:

• Support (blocking way of enemies / less likely targeted by others)
• Attack (react to enemies the same way it does to players, while in a specified range to the owner)
• (lmk if i forgot a good one)

[prime plover]

I want to have like a monster that can be able to navigate player either to the Fire Exit or the main entrance tho (which is nearby)

[primal ferry]

had that idea too, just no idea on which enemy it would make the most sense

without making it too op

blob would be savage xd

[prime plover]

Oh

I forgot about the water jelly monster

Hmmm....i mean its movements are slow, unpredictablity.

Hmmmm.. 🤔

[primal ferry]

idea so far is to make it an item carrier though

but no time yet for the implementation :)

[prime plover]

Oh

Like basically were just item dumping the blob? XD

[bright sandal]

i kinda want the blob to also be like a kind of trampoline/fall dmage cushion

[primal ferry]

yep, just dumping items on it and it will carry them for you

[prime plover]

Ahhh, but its movements are slow tho 🤔

[quick thistle]

will you make the hygrodere react to boomboxes positively (i.e. speed up) just like its wild counterpart? could make it interesting and the boombox more useful

[prime plover]

OH

Like we can use the boombox to make it go faster

That makes sense -

Oh and also maybe one more thing to adf

Instead of just 1 monster to help maybe 2 instead?

But cannot be the same creature? I guess? Idk, just an opinion

[primal ferry]

will do xd

if i can make it balanced ofc

[primal ferry]

might get unbalanced real quick

[prime plover]

Damn xd

[bright sandal]

ohh riiiiiiiiiiight completely forgot about that game mechanic XD

[frigid dock]

0.5.1

• Added sounds to balls (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Fixed masked ghosts being catchable (thanks to @NiroDev)
• Fixed ghost girl escape behaviour synchronisation (thanks to @NiroDev)

LethalMon [v62 / 0.5.1 - alpha]

[primal ferry]

sounds are a first version from what i found on the internet.. they're probably improvable by a lot from someone with actual experience ^^

[frigid dock]

Okay I found why balls are clipping sometimes

It's because of low fps

[frigid dock]

0.5.2

• Fixed balls clipping for some players
• Fixed thumper not working in mines

LethalMon [v62 / 0.5.2 - alpha]

[lime fox]

Nice

[prime plover]

I cant wait to get da Spider XD

Its annoying how it cannot be catched atm

But i leave it up to you guys, youre the developers

[primal ferry]

Could work on it before continueing with the others, as it should be a relatively fast one if it remains a full support mon

[prime plover]

I can see the Spider being useful ngl

I believe the Spider could be a

1. A monster that can slow enemies by shooting its webs and attacks them

OR

2. A monster that can help the player to navigate either Fire Exit or Main Entrance

Either way, yup, the Spider will be a great assest to help the player lol

[primal ferry]

So far i'm mostly with

• slow down enemies
• help negate fall damage by shooting a web below you (maybe)

the navigation part could be nice too.
Just not sure about making it a full support as it's two-shotting players, so it's quite strong

[prime plover]

Huh, i didnt even thought of that tho

I thought of the Spider as a supportive side like the web can slow down

But the falling down part is literally i didnt thought of that too

Just me giving out some ideas

But seriously, the Spider is quite annoying to deal with especially since we dont have any monsters that can insta-kill the enemies XD

[frigid dock]

Is there someone here native in english and willing to help me with the dex descriptions?

[quick lake]

I think using it as a jump pad would be really funny

like it comes out with its head coiled and then if you jump on top it shoots you upwards

[quick lake]

I'm not native but I study English, maybe I could help?

[frigid dock]

Sure, the goal is to make descriptions like in the video

The basic descriptions are here: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Feiryn/LethalMon/
If it's not precise enough I can explain it with more details

[quick lake]

hell yeah, will add it to my to-do list 👍

[frigid dock]

Updated the UI 🙂

[prime plover]

I am so damn looking forward when Spider is catchable, im so in love with this mod already. Whoever created this mod needs to get a raise XD

[quick lake]

Ahh that's some great stuff!!

[primal ferry]

Made some good progress with spider today. It follows me and shoots webs at enemies (with cooldown) that slow them down 👌🏻
Should we be able to bounce off the spider or it's webs? And if not on the webs, how should they behave instead for players?

[prime plover]

So it only shoots webs?

[prime plover]

Bounce off? Like elaborate?

[prime plover]

If its possible, can you be able to send a sneak peek of it? 🤔

So basically does the Spider slows down and attacks them or just slowing them down only?

[rough pewter]

I like the idea of just slowing down, not attacking

Spider can be full support

[prime plover]

I mean it will be good still regardless if its slow down + attack tho

Just saying

[rough pewter]

Yeah but we already got so many attackers

[prime plover]

Hmnm... Thats valid i guess

[frigid dock]

Agressive monsters that don't attack look weird. Like the thumper for example, I think it looks weird

[prime plover]

But i mean it does its job like destroying doors and disables turrets

And yes, it does seems to look a bit weird

Maybe because if it does, then its too OP? 🤔

Anyways, cant wait for the next update where Spider can be catchable :3

[light rampart]

I agree it's been on my mind for a while. It wouldn't hurt to have more monsters attack and be aggressive ( since they are LethalMons after all ). We still don't have any monsters that can fight a dog or giant consistently (nutcracker).

[prime plover]

Oh yea....now that i can think about, there arent any mons that can actually put up a fight with the Forest Giants and well, the dogs

[quick lake]

I think you could have them go after specific enemies if you wanna nerf them or prevent all monsters from just being killing machines

like, the spider could attack only hoarding bugs, snare fleas and man eaters

thumper could try attacking maskeds and butlers (untrustworthy of human-likes and also rebellious)

[quick lake]

I think a full support spider would be cool, and bouncing off the webs would be neat

imo I still think it'd be reaaally funny if you could get shot up by a coil head's coil uncoiling

[prime plover]

Okay guys hear me out.

The skills for Coilhead -

1. Coilheads can be able to block enemy's path when being chased.

Idk if there's anything else i can think about it

Or maybe i ask chatGPT? 🤔 Idk if that will gave a meaningful answer

[rough pewter]

I think it would be cool if our monsters weren't invincible

And could only be revived in the ship or at the company

[prime plover]

Btw what do you think of my opinion of the Coilhead skills?

[rough pewter]

It's a bit of a boring ability if that's the only thing a coil head can do

[prime plover]

Then any ideas?

[rough pewter]

Also it won't really work to its best ability on wider maps like mansion or mines

I don't have any ideas for the coil honestly

[prime plover]

So what do you have in mind? Because thats the only think i can think about them XD

[rough pewter]

It's a hard monster to think of abilities for

[prime plover]

Well, time to use chatGPT then XD

Well, i have found some answers, im not sure if the answers are legit or not but at least i gave some context as how the Coil-Heads skills are :

This is from chatgpt by the way

looks pretty okay to me 🤔

[quick lake]

honestly fuck it, make coil heads just a head

you can put em on the ground and they'll just look at other coil heads, they can bounce around for movement and you can even spring jump on em for outside functionality

bonus points if you can grab them after letting them out of their ball and throw em by themselves to deal damage to enemies

would even come back to you afterwards as long as you ain't looking at it

[prime plover]

That....kinda works too i didnt thought about that XD

Using the head of the coil as a weapon...XD

[rough pewter]

I like the idea of coil heads being able to watch other Coilheads

[prime plover]

the first, second or third one?

[rough pewter]

Kinda like the peeper item from LGU

[prime plover]

Oh lol

[wild ruin]

Does anyone here have the same problem as I do? The capture ball teleports when it is put in the cupboard

[rough pewter]

I thought this was fixed

I had this issue too last time I played

[frigid dock]

How does this happen

Do you have a mod for the cupboard?

Like to increase the limit or idk

[dawn crystal]

there is no limit to it

[frigid dock]

Oh

[dawn crystal]

you can store an infinite amount of items on it by hovering your place item prompt on an empty part of a shelf, then moving your camera to the area you want the item placed

you can do this both vertically or horizontally but vertical is easier

anyways im pretty sure whats going on is a vanilla game bug

on occasion when you place an item in the cupboard it becomes invisible and everyone else is able to see it but you cant

you can hover over its interact prompt but its unable to be picked up by you, someone else has to

the exact same bug actually happens with the cruiser, company building counter, and the mineshaft elevator

because all of them reuse the code the cupboard uses

i think it also happens with the new item in the v64 beta because it drops items out using that code also to place them

but idk about that 100% might be its own thing

but both are similar for why it happens
swapping your inventory slots too quickly
dragging out the item too quickly for the new item

then the elevator has a whole separate issue of desyncing some items positions

its a fuckin mess lol

[frigid dock]

I didn't know all of that

Then is it really an issue with my mod?

[dawn crystal]

i dont think so

im surprised no one has made a fix for this yet

the elevator desync makes sense it hasnt been fixed

but the invisible items has been a thing since launch

and no one has fuckin fixed it

btw as for why it happens when you drop an item i have no idea

maybe also just fast inventory swapping

[wild ruin]

No, the cupboard is not touched by any mod, as far as i know

[dawn crystal]

generalimprovements removes its doors

but that wouldnt change this specifically

..it just removes the doors

[frigid dock]

I'm still looking for someone to work on the model of the computer

[primal ferry]

I will let Nysvaa do this soon when i gave my okay 😉

Currently making it stable. It will behave as following:

• Shoots a web at a nearby enemy, that slows them down a lot
• Shoots a web below the player shortly before hitting ground, if they would take damage. The web makes the player jump and gets destroyed afterwards.
• Can shoot a web on command (action key) in front of the owner, on which any player can jump on (10 times)

[prime plover]

Now that is pretty nifty, like using the webs as a jumping device? That also works in those buildings where you need to jump on that metal beam....why did i not think of that? 💀

[frigid dock]

Will it be possible to use the web to replace the extension ladder? Like to go to the fire exit in the map that I forgot the name

[prime plover]

Oh yea...mayhe i think the Spider can shoot at the end of the metal beam before jumping across

Also i feel like this is a very good mod that i feel like i just wanna donate a small tip to the creator who made this possible...may i know who?

[frigid dock]

I'm the original creator but @primal ferry helped me a lot, I think we worked on this mod 50% each

[prime plover]

Okay, i will donate to the both you next week onwards. This is the perfect mod for me to play my solo runs

Like i have a monster that can keep me company throughout my entire solo scrap runs

[frigid dock]

I think it's time to setup a donation page

I'm happy to see players enjoy the mod

[prime plover]

Im not just happy bro, i am VERY EXCITED.

And me being a total idiot be like -

"Hey, i wonder what skills should i request for this particular monster blah blah blah and etc...the inner child in me is showing.

[primal ferry]

oh wow, didn't expect to get a tip. Thanks a lot! 👀
Glad you enjoy ARE EXCITED OF the mod

[prime plover]

Wait, you guys dont get tips?

🤔

[primal ferry]

we haven't asked for any and nop, not yet :)

[lime fox]

modders almost never get paid

which is normal

[prime plover]

So...im the first? 👀

[primal ferry]

yup pretty much^^

[prime plover]

Omg.

https://tenor.com/view/waffles-mousles-scream-prove-for-fuwu-marv-gif-23279388

[prime plover]

Can a small donation of $10 is okay?

Singaporean Dollars i mean

[frigid dock]

Yeah but I'll not refuse a coffee from an happy player... To get more energy to work on the mod 👀

[frigid dock]

Anything is okay