Gale

[umbral herald]

doesn't mean much for lethal company but gale is now more inclusive

1.1.0

Added

• Experimental support for:
  • 4 platforms: Epic Games, Xbox Store, Oculus and Origin
  • 4 mod loaders: MelonLoader, Shimloader, GDWeave and Northstar
  • 11 games using those mod loaders
• More logging and error context, especially during the startup process
• Tons of game icons
• Links to the new Discord server

Fixed

• Modpack export causing the app to freeze on games without a "Modpack" category
• Arcus Chroma and Subnautica Below Zero not working at all

[umbral herald]

oh no

can you go to gale's data folder/dyson-sphere-program/Test/profile.json and send the contents?

[muted aurora]

SampleAndHoldSim is local imported mod

[umbral herald]

It might be due to sinai-dev-UnityExplorer-4.8.2 because that looks like an invalid thunderstore id

Try to remove the first hyphen (make it sinaidev) and launch again

[muted aurora]

it can load now after the change. Though there are still some UI issues

game icon and local mod icon doesn't load

[umbral herald]

oh oops, I might have accidentally removed the icon for dyson sphere program

I'll get that fixed later, seems like the weird mod name was correct though 🤔

apparently sinai-dev just has a hyphen in the name

whyy

I'm gonna have to figure out some solution to that, in the meantime you'll have to deal with that warning. The mod should still work fine though. I'll look into the local mod icon as well

[sage idol]

tried to install a local mod for webfishing and it installed it as a bepinex mod?

[umbral herald]

wut

[sage idol]

i pressed add local mod and picked the dll and it put it into a bepinex folder

instead of gdweave

[umbral herald]

yeah that's very strange

I guess I forgot to implement that

[sage idol]

also i should have put this in the new server, i forgot you made one sorry

[umbral herald]

eh its fine

seems like zip import works well, just dll is bugged

[sage idol]

also ive had this happen but with ultrakill

just ended up removing the profile cause i didnt really use it anyway

[fast halo]

Just updated to the latest version of gale and now I'm getting this error when trying to launch: "Failed to launch game: Game directory not set."

[umbral herald]

Which game and launch mode?

[fast halo]

Lethal Company, Steam

I've tried swapping the game off LC and then back to LC and it makes no difference

[umbral herald]

Wait is the launch mode steam?

[fast halo]

yes

[umbral herald]

Umm, I removed that

try switching away from it

[sage idol]

ive actually had that happen too, just had to use the file directory override for the game

happened with webfishing though

[umbral herald]

hmm ok

The new option is called "Launcher" (because there's more than steam now)

[fast halo]

oh sorry I'm looking at the actual setting now, it says "Launcher"

[sage idol]

oh also the mod is stuck in my modlist now

i cant remove it

[umbral herald]

I thought it would switch automatically

[umbral herald]

Yeah...

[sage idol]

i see both steam and launcher

[umbral herald]

Launch mode is the important part

the other steam is for switching between stores (xbox store, epic games, e.t.c.) but since the active game only has steam that's always selected

[sage idol]

sorry i probably shouldnt be replying since im not the one having the issue, was just showing how it looks for me

[fast halo]

Does override directory matter?

It's unset for me

[umbral herald]

If it's unset gale will try to find the game through your configured steam library

[fast halo]

okay

[umbral herald]

I'm not sure why it can't find your game that way, but setting it will resolve the problem

[fast halo]

15:00:38 [INFO] directory 'cache' does not match any game, skipping
15:00:38 [INFO] directory 'logs' does not match any game, skipping
15:00:38 [INFO] setup done in 7.2585ms
15:00:40 [WARN] failed to deserialize package: invalid identifier at line 1 column 17596
15:00:41 [WARN] failed to deserialize package: invalid identifier at line 1 column 126152
15:00:41 [WARN] failed to deserialize package: invalid identifier at line 1 column 1725
15:00:42 [ERROR] Failed to launch game: Game directory not set.

uh

okay now it is giving me a different error

Failed to launch game - Failed to read BepInEx core directory. Is BepInEx installed?: The system cannot find the path specified. (os error 3).

my bad its because I had a blank profile

it seems like it fixed itself without me doing anything

lmao

[umbral herald]

oh well

[fast halo]

btw, is there a way to make my mod's config descriptions have newlines in gale's UI?

referring to this

[umbral herald]

Not currently

[fast halo]

damn

[umbral herald]

I can look into it though, shouldn't be too hard

[fast halo]

would appreciate it

it looks like the generated config file does preserve the newlines

[sage idol]

hey just came in to say it does but if you try to open file directory for the local mod it throws an error

Failed to open mod dir - Launcher "cmd" "/c" "start" "" "C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\com.kesomannen.gale\webfishing\profiles\2 - Usual Mods\GDWeave\mods\-SaveCanvas" failed with ExitStatus(ExitStatus(1)).

[umbral herald]

ok

[sage idol]

two \ cause i removed the name from the error on purpose

[limpid gull]

does it hav webfishojg yett

[umbral herald]

yes

and it maybe works

[sage idol]

it does work

[main plume]

also getting the same issue as the dyson guy

[umbral herald]

another thunderstore author with hyphens :/

I didn't know thunderstore allowed that

anyway you'll have to edit FunkFrog-and-Sipondo to FunkFrogandSipondo and remember to undo it when the fix is out

[main plume]

ah ok

[scenic helm]

same issue here with multiple mods, there shouldn't be any issue downgrading back to 1.0.1 in the meantime, right?

[umbral herald]

not sure

[nova sandal]

You should also announce updates in the discord server rather than just here

Like have a dedicated Update channel so it dosent bury the normal announcements

[main plume]

there's a discord?

[nova sandal]

On the github page

Readme

Cant link it here cuz of server rules

And its fairly new and like a few members

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale

[violet osprey]

i dont see the link for the discord

[violet osprey]

oh im blind

mb

thank you

[main aspen]

BIG ISSUE: installing a modpack doesn't change the configs; the configs stay in their default state.

[solar vale]

A cool feature maybe would be being able to include a lil png as an icon for the pack
Just like, adding an option in the profile settings for it
Would be kinda neat, especially when you have more packs
Just throw a thumbnail.png in the profile folder itself, i assume it wouldnt cause issues with other mod managers which would ignore it

[crystal pagoda]

does anyone know what causes this? its happening when my friend tries importing any code/file profile

nvm, they were outdated, apologies!

[urban crater]

cant tell if this is an issue on my end or not

[umbral herald]

what do you mean by default state?

[main aspen]

Basically, two cfg files are created: the first one will have all the default settings, while the second has all the settings set by you.

[umbral herald]

It's an issue with the latest update

[main aspen]

I posted the issue on Github

[umbral herald]

So just the BepInEx config?

[main aspen]

No. It seems to happen to what feels like every mod

[umbral herald]

but they're not duplicated in the screenshot

[main aspen]

lemme send another photo real quick

Almost all of them have duplicates

[umbral herald]

ohh seems like I broke config installation

I really should have caught this

if you look in the actual files the config is installed under an extra BepInEx folder

[main aspen]

One more thing: exporting profile codes doesn’t work

[umbral herald]

wdym

[main aspen]

People who use R2Modman get an error now

[umbral herald]

what error

[main aspen]

More specifically, when trying to import the code, it doesn’t work. I don’t have R2Modman installed, so that will be something I demonstrate tomorrow.

[umbral herald]

There was an issue where r2modman seemed to just import an empty profile, could that be the same issue?

(it was fixed in the latest r2 update)

[main aspen]

Hold on. Maybe I can demonstrate

Give me a few minutes

I exported a mod code from Gale and imported it on R2Modman

[umbral herald]

seems like an r2 issue

nothing in the export file changed

no wait the cache is going to be screwed up

oh god

I need a beta branch

[main aspen]

I'm surprised nobody else has brought attention to either issue

[main aspen]

Thanks for fixing the first issue!

Just tested it out

[umbral herald]

np

[grand maple]

I just updated Gale and now it refuses to open because of some issue with Risk of Rain 2, but I never really used it for Risk of Rain 2 so I dunno why the Mod Manager can't just ignore it.

[hardy rover]

Update it again

[grand maple]

How do I do that if I can't even open it anymore?

[hardy rover]

Manually download the new 1.1.1 Version

You likely updated to 1.1.0

You can install it over it it should fix it

That issue was related to this

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Kesomannen/GaleModManager/versions/ So download 1.1.1 and install it

[grand maple]

Wait a minute, I just updated it right now. How did it give me the 1.1.0 if it should have skipped straight to 1.1.1?

[hardy rover]

I mean can you check the version in your install directory?

it's possible it hadn't gotten the update for 1.1.1 when you updated

The exe for Gale will tell you the version

[grand maple]

That was just a few minutes ago, you're saying that 1.1.1 just came out within that time and wasn't available for download from the Manager?

[hardy rover]

if it says 1.1.0.0 then you have the borked version

[grand maple]

So does this mod manager just download each version in sequential order or something?

[hardy rover]

It shouldn't no

[grand maple]

I don't doubt at all I have the broken version, I just gotta understand how each version takes its order when I haven't updated in a while.

[hardy rover]

It's just 1.1.1 happened to just release around the time you had the bug

lol

Coincidential timing

[grand maple]

Yeah.

So I'm guessing there must've been a delay in uploading the update to the Manager for me to download...

Otherwise it would have skipped straight to the newest.

I looked in the folders and it says 1.1.1.0 for my gale.exe

[hardy rover]

Ahhhh rip

@umbral herald

Looks like you might have missed something when fixing Gale 🤔

I got a similar error with my Content Warning profile earlier but I just deleted it since I don't play the game

But that was before the new update

[grand maple]

So to open Gale, I just gotta delete the Risk of Rain profile?

[umbral herald]

1.1.1 should fix it

does it still not work?

[hardy rover]

Vincent said they are using 1.1.1

So it's not fixed apparently

[grand maple]

There's four numbers separated by decimals, which one are you talking about?

[umbral herald]

I dont think there should be four numbers lol

[hardy rover]

The exe itself shows 4

[umbral herald]

Go to gale's data folder/riskofrain2/profiles/Default/profile.json and send the contents

[grand maple]

Can I just delete it since I don't really play that much?

[umbral herald]

Works too but I would like too see what the issue is

[grand maple]

Oh right

[hardy rover]

Well on my end it's fixed, I was able to reimport my profile for CW and not have Gale die

[grand maple]

Where exactly is Gale's data folder?

[umbral herald]

If you haven't changed it it's in AppData/Roaming/com.kesomannen.gale

you can get to AppData by hitting Windows + R and typing %appdata%

[grand maple]

Dangit, I was looking all over AppData. Why isn't the folder just called "Gale"

[umbral herald]

ask tauri

[wispy shoal]

ok, it just randomly decided to work

think I set my data directory to what it was before and it fixed it?

[short star]

just to clarify, does this mean it isn’t an r2 issue 👀

we did change something related to unzipping so I was mildly concerned there

[wispy shoal]

Ok, locally imported mods cannot currently be disabled

[umbral herald]

No, that was something else

I think r2 has an issue

[short star]

Any idea how to replicate?

Just a Gale profile export?

[umbral herald]

I think so, didn't try to replicate it myself yet

[short star]

We didn’t change how we read imports so it should be fine? Only how we extract zips and id have expected failures on everything by now 🤔

[deft locust]

Windows Defender is flagging gale as a "Trojan:Win32/Bearfoos.A!ml" on v1.1.1

[main plume]

because it's a brand new executable

!ml at the end means detection with machine learning (microsoft doesn't really have documentation. it might even mean "originated from this pc")

[dense nova]

Even with the latest update I couldn't find the folder to launch the Steam game...

[main plume]

it's just the folder with the exe..

[umbral herald]

Is this on 1.1.1?

[dense nova]

The application itself cannot launch a profile with mods

[cerulean stream]

yes

[dense nova]

Indicates an error that it cannot find the game directory

Which I didn't even change

[main plume]

then force the directory

again

it reset most likely

[umbral herald]

Can you go to gale's data folder/lethal-company/profiles/TBs Mega Modpack v2/profile.json and send the contents

[umbral herald]

Try switching launch mode from steam to launcher if it's on steam

[dense nova]

Didn't understand

Where does this even change?

[umbral herald]

In settings, almost at the bottom

[dense nova]

I didn't find...

[main plume]

settings

[dense nova]

second

I'll look now

[dense nova]

ahhh

Understood

[main plume]

broda...

[dense nova]

I kept looking up

xD

[main plume]

and then u also gotta select the appropriate game but yea

[umbral herald]

There might have been an issue with the update, since it removed the Steam launch mode in favour for Launcher (since there's more than steam now) but I don't think it switched correctly for some people

[dense nova]

Everything works

Successfully chosen, thanks for such a little hint :3

I still have one question with the token when creating a modpack

I can't create it in any way

[umbral herald]

No problem, not sure why that is even happening

[dense nova]

I'm registered

Created Team

And stop

I figured it out

No more questions

[umbral herald]

Hmm this is weird, one of the mods are missing the fullName field. If I query the thunderstore API for the uuid it cant find it

[dense nova]

Thanks for your help again! 😂

[umbral herald]

Tou could remove it from the profile.json file but that would make it stick around in the files while unrecognized by gale

There's no way to know the name of the mod though

This is the uuid:
1ab64c5a-1c84-492e-8350-05f359e1a00b

[cerulean stream]

Okay that's a mod that has been removed from thunderstore which is why it can't be found

didn't expect that to break gale though.

[umbral herald]

Not sure why it did

[main plume]

probably because it fetched and it got something other than "doesn't exist"

which didn't matter for the browse

[umbral herald]

Well it would get "doesn't exist"

[main plume]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cerulean stream]

On earlier versions of gale it loads just fine and browsing the modpack just displays a message at the top telling the user that the mod wasnt found [on Thunderstore]

[supple trellis]

hey where is gale's data stored? it's crashing on launch even after a reinstall and it looks like i gotta delete some stuff

[main plume]

roaming appdata under com.kesomannen.gale

[supple trellis]

thank you !!

[main aspen]

@umbral herald I was wondering if it's possible to sort mods by disk size when browsing Thunderstore mods.

[umbral herald]

It's possible but would that be useful?

[main aspen]

I imagined in my mind that you'd be able to look for mods that don't take too much space. I mean, you could filter many of them out by adding tags to your search.

I just worry about how much disk space things take up; I use this metric to predict how performant and/or optimized a mod or modpack is. For example, my modpack is only 121.7 megabytes (contains 88 mods), while other modpacks take up more than a gigabyte of space.

[main aspen]

I’d be fine with you not implementing it, as I worry that it wouldn’t work in practice.

[primal barn]

Good feature tbh

[nova sandal]

Browsing by size the 40k mods rly hard, cuz youd have to go trough each mod and then do size comparison since thunderstore api dosent give us that unlike most downloaded.

[umbral herald]

It does give the download size associated with each mod version and it's actually only one line code to add the sorting option for it (the thunderstore querying uses the same code as the profile)

or well, thunderstore's API doesn't give any sorting options. The sorting and filtering you see in gale is all done locally since it stores all of the mods in a big hashmap.

[grand maple]

Which is why Gale is the best

[umbral herald]

It's funny how big that hashmap gets on lethal company. Gale's RAM usage on lethal company is about 450-550 MB, while if you switch to for example webfishing it goes down to 8 MB xD

[nova sandal]

Lughtweight

[sage idol]

i havent tested much but i think gale is putting winmm.dll from gdweave into my webfishing folder, i swear i remember deleting it once already and its back again

[umbral herald]

well, relative to r2modman :)

[umbral herald]

It does, I think it's necessary for launching to work. For BepInEx it needs to copy the winhttp.dll to the game folder so I just kept the same behaviour

do let me know if it's screwing with anything though

[nova sandal]

There shuld be an option to directly load the hashmap from storage rather than keepingnit inn memory

[sage idol]

throws an error that it couldnt load the gdweave config if you launch the game through steam, but the game seems to work normally

[umbral herald]

ah ok

I'll try to figure out if it's necessary

[sage idol]

pretty sure it only throws an error because the gdweave folder itself is not in the files

[umbral herald]

Not sure how that would work

I did experiment with sqlite which is kind of what you're suggesting, but that experiment failed

[main aspen]

This is making me realize Gale doesn't have the feature to only show mods that match the specific filters

Like, if you added "modpacks" and "performance" it'd only show things with both tags

[nova sandal]

Why would that be

[main aspen]

Maybe I am not seeing something

nvm I don't think we have that feature

[carmine linden]

How do i fix this issue?

[nova sandal]

Make sure your on the latest version of gale,

Refresh your mod list

And reimport

[tender hare]

@umbral herald The new gale update broke my modpack

While downloading it, I loaded up the game as normal. But this time my crosshair was different. This is when I first discovered it, I have it set to "." in my modpack and it is "- + -" by default. At first I thought it was my modpack but, when I downloaded my modpack off thunderstore and looked in the zip. I saw that it was set to "." but for some reason gale is only getting the default values of the config file. This leads me to believe that other config files are not being downloaded correctly too.

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Might be worth noting it appears Gale has a bug right now that makes it not import xml files

My LogLines.xml file from AsyncLoggers for example didn't get imported

That or maybe it considered it a duplicate somewhere possibly when you fixed that

Yeah no it just fails to import the LogLines.xml file currently

Even tested by importing a profile where I had readded that and it's still missing

[spiral sonnet]

Do you know what I can do about this? Is it possible to revert gale version or what?Is whatever you are talking about related to LethalModDataLib?

[spiral sonnet]

I couldn't find a way to reroll the version

[wispy shoal]

found an error when testing mods in relation to ModelReplacement.API where if a model is changed and then reloaded, the model never updates to the new model. This remains on the profile no matter what and is only removed upon starting a new profile. I think this is also only the case with imported mods, but I've no clue.

[umbral herald]

Is it getting downloaded at all or do you have to launch the game first?

and what’s the name of the modpack?

[hardy rover]

Btw if you want my pack export 01932ea7-fb30-f45b-156a-bd51757e61fc I can confirm btw that I tested a profile Export I made with Gale 1.0.1 as well and it wouldn't import my LogLines.xml file, but I know it would import the file with 1.0.1 since I had asked for clients' logs a couple of times before the 1.1.0+ versions and they didn't have stuff like Targetable A spam and everything

I'm assuming it's something to do with the fix you did in 1.1.1

this change maybe

[umbral herald]

I'll add xml to the list of extensions

"cfg", "txt", "json", "yml", "yaml", "ini", "xml"

anything more I should add?

[tacit anchor]

I’ve never even heard of yml/yaml

Uhh lemme take a peek at some profiles of mine and see

[misty hazel]

anyone able to find a fix for sharing modpack from gale to other who uses different launcher(r2modman/thunderstore)

[umbral herald]

It should be fixed in 1.1.2

[tacit anchor]

Yeah I think that’s everything

[hardy rover]

That should probably cover it so things don't get deleted on imports

[umbral herald]

It would be so simple to just take the whole config folder but people always sneak config and other mutable files into plugins 🫠

[hardy rover]

Yeah ik what you mean lol, at least I won't have to worry about my LogLines I painfully setup being deleted anymore 😂 that file took so long to tweak lol I told Alecks to not worry about the bug cus I knew you'd probably hotfix it asap

[tacit anchor]

Fixed before I even pushed the modpack update!

[spiral sonnet]

[00:55:28.1607499] [Error :MaxWasUnavailable.LethalModDataLib] Failed to load data from file LCGeneralSaveData.moddata with key MaxWasUnavailable.LethalModDataLib.LMDLVersion! Exception: System.Security.Cryptography.CryptographicException: Could not decrypt file. Please ensure that you are using the same password used to encrypt the file.
at ES3Internal.ES3Stream.CreateStream (ES3Settings settings, ES3Internal.ES3FileMode fileMode) [0x00111] in <9a53cee95b8c4093a7e8ca243c325c34>:IL_0111
at ES3Reader.Create (ES3Settings settings) [0x00000] in <9a53cee95b8c4093a7e8ca243c325c34>:IL_0000
at ES3.KeyExists (System.String key, ES3Settings settings) [0x00011] in <9a53cee95b8c4093a7e8ca243c325c34>:IL_0011
at ES3.KeyExists (System.String key, System.String filePath) [0x00008] in <9a53cee95b8c4093a7e8ca243c325c34>:IL_0008
at LethalModDataLib.Features.SaveLoadHandler.LoadData[T] (System.String key, System.String fileName, T defaultValue) [0x0004f] in <2e27e651b8b1406f89ea9ae6d53c5d1e>:IL_004F Is this due to gale?

[hardy rover]

I've had no issues like this

So I would assume not

I would check your recent mod additions

[umbral herald]

Most likely not

[spiral sonnet]

I'm getting this with just lethalmoddatalib

I deleted all my mods and still getting it

[hardy rover]

Probably corrupted cache

[umbral herald]

You need to delete the LCGeneralSaveData.moddata in Lethal Company's appdata

That's AppData/LocalLow/ZeekersRBLX/Lethal Company

[spiral sonnet]

I swore I deleted everything regarding Lethal Company and fresh installed but I'll try it

brb

[umbral herald]

it's easy to miss

[hardy rover]

I wonder what causes that file to even corrupt

[umbral herald]

I don't think it's corrupted

it literally says Could not decrypt file. Please ensure that you are using the same password used to encrypt the file.

[spiral sonnet]

can i delete everything there? I have a bunch of stuff that I don't have anymore

[hardy rover]

Since that would be created by LethalModDataLib itself right?

Ah

[umbral herald]

it will delete your saves

[spiral sonnet]

Idm

[hardy rover]

Just delete the file itself, the other stuff you should prolly leave alone

[spiral sonnet]

Thank you for your help!!! This was a big hassle but I'm glad it's fixed now.

[umbral herald]

np

[hardy rover]

I mean Bobbo still needs to push the update for Gale ofc but yes

[misty hazel]

thank you works in thunderstore, but on r2modman doesn't it had some weird bugs

[umbral herald]

Can you send the code you're trying to import?

[misty hazel]

01932ece-9d47-0a2d-32cf-bb1780b12bcd

[hardy rover]

Lmk when the hotfix that fixes xml's getting deleted is pushed btw, waiting for that incase it also messed with exports currently lol

[tender hare]

The first time I did it, it said lethal company could not be found. So I redownloaded gale and I could launch the game. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/lethal_coder/Lethal_Enhanced_Party_Edition/

[umbral herald]

Which sub-modpack is the config file in and what is it called?

[tender hare]

It’s in the main one

It’s the link I just sent

[umbral herald]

I think I see what the problem is

[main plume]

huh? where's changelog

oh i can just look at the thunderstore

[wispy shoal]

Oneshot Collection Expanded

oh, also imported mods don't show they images in the profile

[left aspen]

Linux. .deb. Updated from 1.0.1 to 1.1.2, Program does a ghost window and crashes.

21:58:49 [INFO] loading settings from /home/user/.config/com.kesomannen.gale/prefs.json
21:58:49 [INFO] directory 'databases' does not match any game, skipping
21:58:49 [INFO] directory 'cache' does not match any game, skipping
21:58:49 [INFO] directory 'mediakeys' does not match any game, skipping
21:58:49 [INFO] directory 'storage' does not match any game, skipping
21:58:49 [INFO] directory 'localstorage' does not match any game, skipping
21:58:49 [ERROR] failed to launch Gale! failed to initialize mod manager: failed to load game v-rising: failed to load profile Default: failed to read profile manifest: data did not match any variant of untagged enum ProfileModKind at line 9 column 5

Ah I see, easily fixable,

or not, removing V-rising did not fix.

ok, it did on try 2

I had a V-rising folder I pulled from an older install (reinstalled computer), and that folder, after one of the last 3 updates, now was breaking it from opening. If you would like the folder breaking it, let me know, and I will zip it up and send it since it was rather small.

[digital jungle]

Uh Failed to launch game - Game directory not found, you may need to specify it in the settings.

[echo comet]

Just go to the gear button, click game directory and just save it where it opens? weird that it works and weird that it breaks

[cerulean stream]

Cursed way to use Gale: turn the deletion confirm box into a meme

why are the options Ok and Cancel instead of Yes or No anyway? 🤔

[main plume]

probably reused the template

clear mod cache also has the same ok cancel

[umbral herald]

It's just a native dialog

[main plume]

yea that

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald

Another bug

The workaround I found was to manually install the mod and update the mod depending on it then take it back out

@vital mason Any plans to push the changes from Experimental to stable soon?

I've had no problems

[vital mason]

... why not just disable the Stable one?

but well i'm going to push it to stable soon

[vital mason]

i mean why remove (uninstall ) it instead of just disabling so in Gale the dependecies are still met

[hardy rover]

That was what I ended up doing lol, but the thing is this is the first time Gale has errored about missing dependencies usually it just downloads them

So it's still a bug that needs fixed

[hallow reef]

something not right with Gale 1.1.3 and my modpack, installing the modpack on 1.1.3 says that there are 7 mods out of date, installing the modpack with Gale 1.1.2 says there are 2 mods out of date. On 1.1.3 some of the out of date mods have versions from months ago but I update the pack almost daily and specify newest versions in the manifest. modpack is "LabraCompany" if you want to test it, thanks

[hardy rover]

I doubt that's an issue with Gale

That's more so a Thunderstore issue, problems like this have happened randomly with R2 and TMM on profile Imports too

You should just do a cache clear and reimport it

It'll fix it

[hardy rover]

Yeah you should, been using Experimental for a bit and there's no issues with the changes

Honestly I was surprised you didn't push the update to Stable to begin with

[hallow reef]

tried that, dropping back to 1.1.2 fixed it

[vital mason]

i didn't becauuse it changed all the configs

[hardy rover]

I still have doubts it's a Gale issue

[vital mason]

i changed the names of the items ecc

[hardy rover]

Since I've had no issues with my profile

It's likely just something in your mod pack disagreed with some of the fixes 1.1.3 added

You could try updating your pack on the old version and exporting a new code and importing it inside of the update for Gale but problems like this usually aren't mod manager related and older profiles from old versions of mod managers just sometimes break

Even current ones have this happen

Constantly

with R2 and Thunderstore Mod Manager

[hardy rover]

Yeah I noticed

[tiny crater]

how do i fix this?

gale throws this error whenever i try to open it

happened when i updated to 1.1.2

even after redownloading the installer for 1.1.3 i still get it

[hardy rover]

It's an issue from our old CW profile from when we last played, I had to delete it on my end and reimport it to fix the issue, not sure why it errored though so Bobbo might ask you for something first

[tiny crater]

i physically can't open gale to delete it

it just crashes after i click ok

[hardy rover]

You have to go to your appdata directory for Gale

So AppData > Roaming > com.kesomannen.gale

It's interesting the default profile is exploding

But yeah try loading profiles > default for content warning and posting the profile.json in here

then you can just delete the stuff in the directory for that profile

I'm still unsure why some game profiles broke after 1.1.0

[left aspen]

Just updated to 1.1.3 and issue with it not recognizing LC game directory when trying to launch. The override in the settings worked just fine, not sure what was up with that. And yes the default directories were correct. Reminder I am on Linux .deb version in case it's a limited bug.

[echo comet]

Just had to reconfirm the defauly folders, think I gpt the issue on 1.1.2, windows

[hallow reef]

I got the same and I had to choose "steamapps" folder, not just where the steamapps resides, so "C:/games/Steam/" didn't work but "C:/games/Steam/steamapps/" works

[hallow reef]

Do you make your modpack with Gale?

[mighty oxide]

so... Gale is fine rn?

[tender hare]

If you set the override and then remove it it fixes

[echo comet]

I literally just clicked the things and hit select directory without changing anything and it fixed it

[main aspen]

@umbral herald I ran into a critical issue: I managed to create a profile named "added sugars" while there was another profile named "Added Sugars" which caused the mod loader to go nuts upon re-opening, showing the profile name "undefined" and deleting both modpacks.

I don't think I can re-create it, as I don't know what specifically caused it

[hardy rover]

I always feel weird when I see people still using Windows 10 😆 I know it has support still for a little under a year but it's just odd cus I've gotten so used to 11

It's like looking at a familiar friend but I realize how dated the ui is on 10 in some ways

[shrewd violet]

Is there a way to not make this launch with importing profiles or is there a way to fix it? My friend is trying to launch Gale, but it closes immediately. I think this has something to do with the profiles since he already has the Microsoft Edge web view runtime, but deleting those doesn't work either

[echo comet]

Somehow forgot it's not 11 lmao, not sure what to do when that runs out

[primal barn]

One of my computers apparently arnt compatible even though it has enough power to run it

[hardy linden]

Yeah even with TPM 2.0 in the same boat

[stiff quest]

That's interesting 😅

Failed to update mods - Failed to install mattymatty-Matty_Fixes: failed to remove existing version: mod not found in profile.

[mighty oxide]

^

[hardy rover]

Yeah I brought this up recently

Just make sure you have it installed and disabled if you're using the Experimental Version

it will resolve that

[umbral herald]

Right, windows treats file names as without case

[umbral herald]

I'll fix this soon

[left aspen]

Any known issues with exporting from Gale to R2modman, and the recipient getting errors on disabled mods?

Happened with multiple mods, file or code, I removed all disabled mods and sent, and it was fine. It could be an R2Modman issue, but I was sending from Gale, so I started here.

[umbral herald]

seems like an r2modman issue

[kindred stag]

reinstalling doesnt work

deleted all my profiles on the specific game i was modifying before the issue occurred

actualy i just noticed it says content warning in the error there lol
i havent touched that in months

ill try deleting that idk how i missed that

ok so it kept spitting out a new error and i had to delete like 1/3 of my profiles across my games

did i do something myself to accidentally brick things or is it on gales end

[charred plume]

Every time I launch Gale, the window for it disappears.

I don't know why.

I tried reinstalling it, but it still didn't work.

Btw I'm on Windows.

I know it's probably because I deleted some important windows files

[shrewd violet]

If you do have Microsoft Edge web view runtime installed, I'm facing the same problem too

Well not me but my friend, he has the runtime but the window immediately closes itself

Not sure why

[charred plume]

yessss it worked when i installed Edge

[main plume]

gale end because authors have hyphens

and also might've been any of the ten updates so

[primal barn]

Gale being gale

[umbral herald]

This was fixed

[umbral herald]

not sure what caused this

[main plume]

well they don't have the profile now ("had to delete like 1/3 of my profiles") so you're gonna have to wait for the next unfortunate soul

[main plume]

ik .. maybe just outdated versions catching up

[kindred stag]

i didnt have to delete anything important thankfully

[fickle wigeon]

cant install gale

windows 11

[umbral herald]

How did you try to install it?

[fickle wigeon]

clicking on the installer

[tender hare]

I have it

[tender hare]

and I have windows 11

[umbral herald]

Did you unzip the folder?

[fickle wigeon]

I just got a new pc on w11 so idk

[fickle wigeon]

yea

[umbral herald]

Weird, I guess you don't have windows installer installed

[fickle wigeon]

yea I gotta check out this issue thx

is there a portable version of gale?

[umbral herald]

nope

[primal barn]

@umbral herald Want your own emoji of gale? If so just send me a png I don’t mind

[echo comet]

In the Microsoft Store, in your list of installed apps, find App Installer and update it, should fix it, if not it should be available in the store and marked as made by Microsoft.
I have no idea why it tends to come with such an old version on new devices :/

[fickle wigeon]

ty appreciate it

[robust lark]

@umbral herald
I installed Gale thru the deb provided on the github and running it just gives this error

gale 
23:36:00 [INFO] gale v1.1.4 running on linux
23:36:00 [INFO] loading settings from /home/robyn/.config/com.kesomannen.gale/prefs.json
23:36:00 [INFO] directory 'localstorage' does not match any game, skipping
23:36:00 [INFO] directory 'mediakeys' does not match any game, skipping
23:36:00 [ERROR] failed to launch Gale! failed to initialize mod manager: failed to load game lethal-company: failed to load profile Default: failed to read profile manifest: data did not match any variant of untagged enum ProfileModKind at line 9 column 5

Okay, I had to delete my entire ./local/share/com.keomannen.gale folder from an older install because something in the way the configs are stored changed since I last used Gale and it blocked Gale from starting up completely

[robust lark]

also closing gale doesn't actually close it

[umbral herald]

Again??

I don't know why it's doing this

But everyone just deleted their data lol

[echo comet]

Might still be in the Trash?

[scarlet hound]

i did some outside debugging and it seems to be related to whatever this fullname property is being malformed? e.g. in these cases one didn't have a verison number and one was just empty. for the empty one i just filled in test-test-0.0.1 and it worked fine (although it comes up with a warning saying that the mod is not found obviously)

[umbral herald]

Oh hmm

That would make the parse fail, I wonder how those get there though

[scarlet hound]

i think both of these profiles were imported from r2modman when i started using it

i also haven't opened either of these profiles in a while, and i updated from 0.9.2

[umbral herald]

probably random linux issue

[primal barn]

[primal barn]

[charred plume]

[violet osprey]

GG

[brisk valley]

Quick question, i installed gale a few weeks back on glitch's recommendation but the interface looks shit as f lol. I know it's a bug since Glitch interface looks reaaaally good, so whats happening? Whats the problem?

[brisk valley]

this result as no access to config and some options beeing invisible lol

[frosty sorrel]

it seems like it cannot detect the "icon.png", did you restart the application?

[brisk valley]

yes

but as you can see i dont have the icons for config and stuff on the left, and also i dont have the red cross to close the application on top

so clearly something more than the icons

[frosty sorrel]

strange, this is maybe an outdated windows version bug or something. im not sure

[brisk valley]

lol i have my windows updated, should not be possible

[frosty sorrel]

idk if you dont have an icon for closing the window than thats really strange

maybe it will be fixed automaticly with the next update of gale

[brisk valley]

i dont think so, my gale is like that for at least 3 updates now

and this is the only app that is bugged on my pc

[frosty sorrel]

tried uninstalling it?

and installing it again?

[brisk valley]

ok

[brisk valley]

nope still broken

@umbral herald do you know how to resolve this bug?

[low pivot]

Having an issue where the directory doesn't save per game, it just uses one directory

So if i switch from lethal company to risk of rain, it just launches lethal company cuz its still using that directory

[chrome nova]

Hi can someone help me troubleshoot an issue I get every so often?

LLL's configs will sometimes just disappear and I don't know what causes it

this is one of my packs

and this is another pack

downgrading the pack that the issue happened on does not fix it, LLL configs remain missing

[echo comet]

LLL seems to hide any entries it thinks aren't currently installed

[chrome nova]

sure; but i have a bunch of moons and interiors and even the vanilla stuff is missing

[severe belfry]

Still hidden even after opening a save?

[echo comet]

^ if you don't load far enough in it can't make it's list

[chrome nova]

Loading into the lobby wasn't enough, also had to route to a moon and land

The configs loaded back in Gale after

[glad steppe]

I am having the exact same issue here 😦

Windows 11, latest version of Gale

I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling and it didn't work

even tried deleting the original com.kesomannen.gale file and it's still not launching

[urban crater]

ungaled gale

[scarlet hound]

if you have python installed i made a script that should hopefully automate restoring data from some of the other information gale luckily saves

[glad steppe]

oh! where do i insert this?

[scarlet hound]

the script is external to gale, so you should just download it and try to run it

[glad steppe]

oh i see

i uh don't know how to run python scripts .-.

[scarlet hound]

ahh alright then, i dont have too much time to help right now

[glad steppe]

lol sorry

oop nevermind i got it to run

unfortunately it's still not working 😦

[glad steppe]

how long does it take for it to fully run?

[scarlet hound]

like a few seconds

[glad steppe]

o

yeah i ran it through python and it gave me the prompt

i said yes

[scarlet hound]

yeah try opening gale now

[glad steppe]

nope, same problem 😦

just to make sure, this should work on windows, right?

[scarlet hound]

yeah, i dont know, hopefully the script can help bobbo automate it in gale

[glad steppe]

maybe 😦

[drifting fable]

same issue expect I'm in windows 10

[umbral herald]

This happened once in a debug build. It probably has to do with the webview not being able to make any network requests (thus not being able to display any icons, images or fonts)

[umbral herald]

I'll try to add something similar to gale

[brisk valley]

I have a firewall to block any connection but every time it asked me if the connection should work or not and I need to manually approve them
However, this does not happen with Gale and I can't control it

[umbral herald]

Can't you add an exception manually? Although it seems like the rust side can still make requests so the whole app is probably not blocked

[brisk valley]

well right now it is already on the "allowed list", to prove that i can manually download a mod and it works

so maybe it's not a connection problem

[umbral herald]

I'm very sure it's a connection problem

can you check the log?

[primal barn]

[brisk valley]

nice, we have the confirmation thats a rename file problem

[umbral herald]

That's a different thing

[brisk valley]

i did installed Gale on a different disk

[umbral herald]

nothing strange in the log

[brisk valley]

oh really? ok then

what could be the issue then?

[umbral herald]

I actually have no idea, never seen someone else report this. You could try to downgrade to a previous version to see if something's different there. The webview log might also be useful, but that would require you to make a debug build. If you have the time and energy you could try that, but I understand if you don't.

Or, have you blacklisted microsoft edge or edge webview runtime in your firewall?

[brisk valley]

Ah exactly that was it

working great now

[umbral herald]

nice

[balmy fulcrum]

Lil qol feature would be allowing the list to auto scroll why moving a mod in a mod profile, id make it easier to organize my pack

also is there a way to get a mod list I can copy and paste

[fast halo]

any way I can get around the "Currently unsupported" error when trying to import a local mod?

I've been using Gale for testing my mod and it kind of sucks doing an update just for the update to regress this feature with no warning beforehand and leaving me stranded

[umbral herald]

Yeah, sorry about that

you can put it in a zip and import that

[fast halo]

gotcha, thanks

[umbral herald]

You can put the mouse close to the top or bottom of the list to do that

it's still kind of finnicky though

[balmy fulcrum]

yea doesnt seem to work

usually stops after passing like 4 mods

[umbral herald]

Are you on linux?

[balmy fulcrum]

No

windows

ok got it to kinda work

[umbral herald]

huh ok, I don't know why it's doing that then

[balmy fulcrum]

to as you said

finicky

stops randomly

[umbral herald]

yeah

it is what it is

[balmy fulcrum]

tbh if we could use the scroll wheel tat would be better imo

[umbral herald]

yeah, but I'm just using the "built-in" drag and drop functionality

which just doesn't allow that for some reason

[balmy fulcrum]

ah

[umbral herald]

and it also seems like the drag system doesn't like that the list is virtual (only the mods you see on your screen actually exist/are rendered)

[solar vale]

Found another bug
When editing a config using the popout window like so (which is really useful for lengthy configs, like the code rebirth trap spawn curve stuff), it doesnt seem to save your changes unless you then click "edit as list" and switch back
If you simply close the window and come back to it, your changes will be gone.
There is no save button or anything like that

i'll have a clip of it in a second

And, a second bug which you also see at the end, is that although the config file is changed (Vanilla --> Bababa), the preview for the config above doesnt update, adding further confusion. Once you do open the popout window though the value is changed, and its changed in notepad form so the file is definitely edited, Gale just doesn't show it. Clicking off the config entirely on Gale and reopening the mod config refreshes it and the changes now appear.

[spiral sonnet]

01937404-e848-cc7c-218a-cbe63ad98834

my friend can't import this for some reason

neither through code nor file

[balmy fulcrum]

@umbral herald

[umbral herald]

Is there an error?

I can import it just fine

[spiral sonnet]

idk but he uninstalled gale and reinstalled it

and it worked

[crystal pagoda]

is there any way to export profile files with local mods

with r2modman, you could manually insert local plugins into r2z files with say 7zip and they would import

gale does not have this tho unfortunately

it just doesnt import it

[umbral herald]

No, for security

Importing a code and getting random dlls put in the plugins folder for bepinex to load them is a huge issue

[sudden walrus]

well thats not what they're asking for

[crystal pagoda]

oh

no, that kind of is what i was asking for, sorry

well, not code

but file

r2z file

[sudden walrus]

i think it is a much smaller security concern if you have to manually insert it. i never thought about doing this and honestly that functionality sounds kind of useful for testing out unreleased mods or if thunderstore just hasnt updated yet and you dont wanna make your friends manually install mods

[crystal pagoda]

yeah thats literally why i wanted it, to easily test unreleased mods with my group

and r2modman having this functionality was really useful

[crystal pagoda]

could you reconsider? codes i can understand but r2z files like you're already willingly downloading plugins onto your computer i feel like that should just be here be dragons at that point

maybe you could add a disclaimer when importing r2z files that they have security vulnerabilities?

i just hate having to send individual mods to every person and telling them how to import it when testing stuff im working on

[umbral herald]

I guess a checkbox when you're importing would be fine

[ ] import all files (only do this for people you trust) type of deal

[crystal pagoda]

that would be great

[short star]

it does not

[crystal pagoda]

but i was able to do that in the past by putting them in there with 7zip

i tested mods before that way

[short star]

Yeah you can do it manually, but it doesn’t let you export them by default

[crystal pagoda]

yeah thats what i mean

[short star]

If you want people to test your mods, zip up your files and let them import a local mod

[crystal pagoda]

gale doesnt let you do it even manually

..uh yeah i know that

its for the sake of convenience that i want this

[short star]

It’s the same effort

[crystal pagoda]

when you're trying to get multiple people to all have the same profile and having to manually reimport every local mod every time the pack updates no it is not the same effort

its annoying

[short star]

A modpack full of mods that are yours?

[crystal pagoda]

sure yeah, theres like 3 or 4 that are mine

[short star]

That’s fair, although surely you aren’t updating every single one every time you share the pack

[crystal pagoda]

no

[echo comet]

Things like syncing tv videos and boombox music probably needs that?

[crystal pagoda]

maybe like one or two, idk, i just wish you could send a person one profile file and nothing else

its not crucial

would just be nice, i guess

[crystal pagoda]

oh my GOD that was fast

you're the best...

dude this is so awesome sdlfjksdlfkjsdlkfj

holy smokes

[stiff quest]

Btw... Why does searching BepInEx in the config editor now find all config files (Making that search essentially useless)

[crystal pagoda]

omg ur right lol

[crystal pagoda]

you can search "bepinex." to get them

[stiff quest]

Interesting

[crystal pagoda]

very strange though lol

[stiff quest]

Though, I prefer just searching Bep and find it instantly 😅

[crystal pagoda]

yeah

wonder how that happened lol

[umbral herald]

Oh right lol. It's because the config file paths where previously relative to BepInEx/config, but that changed when I added support for webfishing config as well

[umbral herald]

yeah no worries

note that you have to check it each time

[crystal pagoda]

yea i figured

its so cool

[upper cedar]

I downgraded to 1.0.1 and it was fixed for me. Every version beyond that is unusable it seems

[glad steppe]

huh, interesting

[umbral herald]

It is due to some old bug with the profile format. You can delete your data directory to fix it, or run xu xialoans python script

Or you can do it manually by deleting all the profiles it's complaining about (in that case Epic Gaming in risk of rain 2

[scarlet hound]

i'm not xu 😅

[umbral herald]

Ah oops

[main plume]

close enough

[mighty oxide]

Xun't

[mental dome]

Wish there would be an option to sort mods by most popular within one week etc. like on steam so people could find some new interesting mods but sadly as far as I am aware I can't do that on any launcher nor on thunderstore

[nova sandal]

Isint most downloaded same as most popular

[mental dome]

Yeah but doesn't it just show you most downloaded overall?

[nova sandal]

Nvrm i read your request wrong

[mental dome]

It's alr

[echo comet]

For all time, but also I think steam's metric there also includes ratings given

[glad steppe]

I'm actually completely unsure how to do this

and also, trying to go through the thunderstore mod manager shows that i have no profiles 😦

[umbral herald]

the thunderstore API doesn’t provide that sadly

[umbral herald]

Go to gale's data folder (if you haven't changed it, %appdata%/com.kesomannen.gale). There you'll see folders for each game. Look in the error message to see which game and profile is causing problems. Go into that game's folder, then profiles and delete the profile

[umbral herald]

Yeah, gale uses a different profile format and stores them in a different location

same with r2modman

[glad steppe]

i've deleted every single one of them and the message still shows up

[umbral herald]

Which profile does it say is the problem now?

or is it a different message

[dreamy yoke]

what do I do with this?

I just update Gale and that's happen after the update

Yes, I try to mod other games with Gale long time ago

this is my first time opening Gale again since 2 month ago I think

[umbral herald]

Go to gale's data folder and delete the cult-of-the-lamb folder

it will remove your profiles for that game, if you want to keep them the process is a bit more involved

[dreamy yoke]

it works, thanks. I just move the profile folder to somewhere else

and now this one

nvm

It's just dissappear

[heavy violet]

Request to have config input require a "save" button at the bottom? I notice inconsistency with inputting new values into config files via Gale, sometimes it writes to the .cfg sometimes it doesn't
Not sure what makes it work and what doesn't, it's like 50/50 for me

[umbral herald]

I heard the expanded input field dialog had some issues with this. Is it just that or are other controls also having issues?

[heavy violet]

What do you mean by expanded input field? Strings and the likes? I don't think I've noticed it on Boolean values.

[umbral herald]

this thing

[heavy violet]

How do you even get that to pop up? I was trying to edit LLL's config but it gave me one line of text I had to scroll through to find moons/interiors I wanted haha

I'm just talking about the basic text field in amongst the other values when editing a config!

[umbral herald]

okok

Do you have a specific config file/entry where this always happens? I can't seem to reproduce it

[heavy violet]

It was definitely happening on LLL, adjusting certain moon scrap/spawn rates. It also happened on another config file, but I can't remember which one. If I was in front of my computer right now I'd likely be able to figure it out. I'll get back to you! 😂

[main plume]

yeah not even I remember how to make this pop up I just know I occasionally somehow make it pop up

[umbral herald]

it's this button on config entries that contain a ,

[main plume]

ohhhh

[heavy violet]

I can't say "always" but I was modifying configs yesterday from TheGiantSpecimens and BetterScanVision, and I'm about 99% sure it wasn't saving both the Giant danger and the scanning scaling from those Configs, so then I opened it in notepad and saved that way

[glad steppe]

same exact problem, same exact profile

[umbral herald]

Huh

Are you sure you deleted it?

[twin wigeon]

how can I get the configs list to refresh if I delete a file? I deleted a cfg file and it still shows up, causing an error when trying to open it in an external program

I tried switching profiles and then switching back and even that didn't refresh it

[umbral herald]

restart the app

[echo comet]

If you want a config to regenerate, then launch the profile? the mods build them when they run
(Realized later I misinterpeted Refresh...)

[umbral herald]

The file should disappear if you use the delete button in gale itself, but it might not register if you do it from somewhere else

[glad steppe]

absolutely.

omg

wait

it was in roaming

it worked

[cunning rapids]

is it possible to add support for new lines

this is how it looks in config file

[tepid lintel]

Just as I was about to say I am happy the displacing problem got fixed.
It started happening again, the mod manager simply doesn't handle re-organizing large number of mods well.

[fast halo]

seconded 🙏

[signal rock]

been noticing the new update when importing a code sometimes configs will become corrupted. It doesn't always happen but I've been noticing it since I updated gale.

[hardy rover]

I haven't had this happen, and I just had to downgrade from Windows 11 to Windows 10 after constant bugs and problems with the 24h2 update for 11 and them refusing to fix it. I did a fresh import of my profile and it was fine

[signal rock]

Its not common.

[hardy rover]

That would make sense

I just wonder what would cause it

[signal rock]

I've had others in my group report it happen too.

Its just like 1 config is red and corrupted and they have to reimport again and its fixed.

[hardy rover]

Weird

[signal rock]

Any time you import your profile just look over your configs to make sure none are flagged red.

[hardy rover]

Yeah I will be checking it later to make sure everything is fine

[tepid lintel]

This same problem literally got way worse since the time I discovered it.
When managing a big amount of mods, it is impossible to sort them without the manager screwing the sorting up again.
Hope it won't cause any problems, cause it feels uncomfortable having some mods load before BepinEx (They literally DEPEND ON BEPINEX)

[uncut kraken]

You do realise that there's no manual load order, right?

Order in managers like r2/Gale/TSMM is purely cosmetic. Actual load order is handeled automatically by BepIn.

[primal barn]

^^ This is true, cosmetic. So I like to put my mods I make at the very top as it doesn’t make a difference

[uncut kraken]

Doesn't make the issue less important, but at least you don't have to worry about LO being messed up.

[solar vale]

I try my best to sort them into categories, most important with clientside stuff for people to disable easily, and i also put new mods in their own section when testing

[short star]

This is only true for most BepInEx games

Outside of those games it does function as load order

[uncut kraken]

Forgot those MMs handled non-BepIn games.

[short star]

Even for some BepInEx games, it does load order

GTFO is an immediate example

[uncut kraken]

Huh.

What dictates that? BepIn version?

Or game specific?

[echo comet]

Vastly prefer when the modloader/manifests handle load order themselves, but occasionally there's something you want overriding in a specific order :/

[hardy rover]

I think the issue might be that you're still using an older version of Gale while your group has updated it

Leading to problems

cus me and my group haven't reprod it

[severe belfry]

I got it when I imported your profile for something last night

but was only one config and haven't gotten it since

[hardy rover]

Ahhh

Then it's definitely gotta be related to the new feature

[severe belfry]

After a few reimports I got it again with the same config

weird I fear

[hardy rover]

Which config is it?

[severe belfry]

Cruiser Additions

[signal rock]

Nope on the newest version

[urban crater]

[primal barn]

[short star]

Game specific. It usually occurs when people have mods prior to moving to TS as their existing mods expect certain structures or folders, so we compromise and give them a separate folder that deals with it due to side effects that may require wide refactors

[short star]

So do we, it’s a nicer experience for everyone and is why we have the whole subdirectory format as a default 🔥

[primal barn]

@umbral herald , unrelated to gale but is too.

How did you make the automatic updates / check for updates?

I asume git but want to fully know

[umbral herald]

It's tauri's updater plugin hooked up to a github gist that gets updated by the github action

[primal barn]

Thanks

[bleak dagger]

@umbral herald where do ya get your game icons from

[bleak dagger]

i just went to the thunderstore communities page and just ripped it, works too

then ran the python script for transforming images

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/pull/183

yknow a python script to easily add a new game would be useful

love how gale crashes when it finds a game it doesnt know about

[primal barn]

then make one

[bleak dagger]

no, i dont like python

[primal barn]

ok then dont do python

just make like a C# or C++ or java console script

[bleak dagger]

lmfao

C++ script, yeah right

[primal barn]

I would use C# (I dont know if you can use C++ and java)

[bleak dagger]

none of those are scripting languages like python

[primal barn]

Then use python

[bleak dagger]

refer to previous statement

[primal barn]

Then use python

[primal barn]

Doesn't matter, use python

[hardy rover]

Yeah Endox was able to repro it with my pack, I'm not sure what is causing it

Only @umbral herald would know this lol

[stiff quest]

Make your own scripting language :>

[umbral herald]

Google :)

[umbral herald]

In what way is it getting corrupted?

[umbral herald]

Wait it does? How? I tried searching the r2 code but couldn't find anything related to this

[umbral herald]

Yeah actually I could do that

[short star]

It used to, perhaps TS broke it during a refactor

In which case I can fix it, but yes generally it does

Ah no they shouldn’t have done

[umbral herald]

How does it communicate that to the mod loader?

[short star]

install type is STATE

Mod loader doesn’t, we do file overrides

It’s not “load order” per se but it’s the point that the person I replied to was making

[severe belfry]

Whenever I've gotten it

I'm not actually sure if it's an actual problematic issue

Opening the game, the config is fine again

[umbral herald]

Might be because gale is trying to read the file while also copying it from the code

But it's not corrupted, no

[warm topaz]

does gale have it's own discord server btw?

[severe belfry]

yeah

it's at the top of the readme

[signal rock]

It seems to stay red after launching too. Wasn't sure if this could be something of concern. I've only noticed it since the latest update.

[hallow reef]

Sounds like something you would never see if you imported profile > closed Gale > opened Gale > check the config section. Assuming Gale is the "another process" that is

[bleak dagger]

the more likely reason is windows/tauri did not close the process correctly and is left lingering as a result

[uncut kraken]

Small issue with string values.
What's shown in Gale:
>MORETo open a menu of darmuh\'s commands.
What's actually in config:
>MORE\nTo open a menu of darmuh\'s commands.

[mighty oxide]

has... Gale's download speed gotten slower for anyone else?

yesterday and today, it's been at like less than 1 MB/S

[echo comet]

TS might just be strained rn

[mighty oxide]

hmm

i still need to blame someone

@signal rock <- i blame this person

[echo comet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-cat-stupid-stupid-cat-bite-gif-25168895

[uncut kraken]

Why do people keep thinking that TS API/server "issues" are related to mod managers?

Doesn't download speed and how fast mods show up on the list works the same way between all 3 mod managers?

[shrewd violet]

R2modman tends to take a bit for a mod to show up, usually does take 40 or so minutes but when updating new versions take forever to show up sometimes
Gale is 40 minutes always I think

[shrewd violet]

So long that for some reason when extracting the profile as a file/code from gale the mod isn't even there when importing into r2

It appears as the correct version for gale but r2 completely ignored it

Happened once so I can't say that this happens every time, infact it worked correctly sometimes

Just tends to exceed the 40 minutes to show up thing sometimes

[uncut kraken]

I don't believe it's mod manager dependant. They fetch same info from TS.

The only difference is how frequently they do. But even then you can refresh it manually in either.

Importing a profile is a different issue.

[echo comet]

Is the delay not just how frequently it fetches the index? Like with gale you an hit ffile>fetch mods

Oh the curse of not hitting the bottom of chat

[short star]

They are no different. You might get a more recent hit on Gale just due to the timing of checking and (see later) the r2mm electron cache
For all requests to TS there are two caches: CloudFlare and TS internal
r2mm at least has a short life 5 minute Electron cache too so repeat requests don’t overload TS because someone has spammed a button
I’m unsure if Gale has an automatic identical cache via WebView. I wouldn’t be surprised as it’s still chromium

But in general, it’s not manager dependent and the long duration is purely because TS has a lot of caching

[short star]

The site is still “reachable” and people who use the managers don’t tend to manually download, which is where the slow performance would be.
They may hit the site and it appears to work as expected however the managers are the ones hitting the endpoint if it’s suffering performance degradation

[signal rock]

Thats right and don't forget it.

[tender hare]

@umbral herald is there a macos version

wait nvm

lethal company is only windows

[main plume]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[umbral herald]

there used to be but it had a bunch of issues and only like 2 people used it

[tender hare]

But how because you can only play lethal company in windows

[umbral herald]

I think there are emulators/compatibility layers

like there is for linux

[tender hare]

Oh

[main plume]

yea

but also do remember the wise words of

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qRQX9fgrI4s

[umbral herald]

Luckily github has macos devices that you can use with actions

[tender hare]

Wdym

[umbral herald]

Actions is github's own CI system, that can build and publish your project for you. You can choose between different operating systems to run it on, and github lets you pick macos for free (though I think there's a limited allowed run time)

[tender hare]

So it’s like a emulator

For testing code

[umbral herald]

no, they have real macos machines

I think at least, I don't think you can/are allowed to emulate macos

[tender hare]

Oh so like cloud gaming but for running code

[umbral herald]

yeah

I use it for gale

[tender hare]

Do you code on Mac

[umbral herald]

no

[tender hare]

Oh then what do you use it for?

[umbral herald]

building and publishing..?

so I don't have to do it manually

plus you can't cross compile windows -> linux which means I would have to use a VM to compile for linux

[tender hare]

I mean like what platform do you code on

[umbral herald]

oh

windows

[tender hare]

Yeah because I wanna start coding mods and I mainly use my MacBook. But I can’t run lethal company or visual studio on my MacBook.

[umbral herald]

ah

you can use visual studio code instead

[tender hare]

Yeah I just set it up with extensions

[umbral herald]

and I'm pretty sure there's a way to run lc on mac

[tender hare]

How

[umbral herald]

idk

[tender hare]

Because on steam it only runs windows

[umbral herald]

yeah but I think there's something similar to proton on linux

[tender hare]

?

[umbral herald]

here https://getwhisky.app/

found it

[tender hare]

What is it though

[umbral herald]

it's a compatibility layer that runs windows games on mac

[tender hare]

Ohhh

[tender hare]

Do you think you could make gale compatible with macOS?

[umbral herald]

As I said there was a mac version before, but there were lots of issues with it, it was annoying to maintain and very few people used it. You're the second person to mention macos since I removed it in like july

[tender hare]

Oh

I guess it’s fine because I can just import the mods manually

Thanks for the help!

[umbral herald]

np

[heady prism]

Gale died for me :(

23:50:57 [INFO] gale v1.2.0 running on linux
23:50:57 [INFO] loading settings from /home/damglador/.config/com.kesomannen.gale/prefs.json
23:50:57 [ERROR] failed to start app: failed to initialize mod manager: failed to load game lethal-company: failed to load profile Default: failed to read profile manifest: data did not match any variant of untagged enum ProfileModKind at line 9 column 5

[kindred stag]

delete the default profile folder for lethal company

[heady prism]

Is there any way to recover it?

[kindred stag]

you could grab the config folder

and profile.json seems to list all the mods you had

while annoying its really the only fix

bobbo has not been able to figure out the cause because its really rare and inconsistent when it happens iirc?

[heady prism]

I don't know the exact time, I haven't launched Gale for a while and last time I played Lethal Company was in September, last time I used Gale is also probably somewhere there. Today I just tried to launch it and it hang. At first it displayed rounds instead of lethal-company in the log, so I deleted the rounds folder, since I didn't need profiles from there anyway, and then #1246088342458863618 message

[undone swallow]

do i silll need thunderstore downloaded?

@umbral herald

and some of the mods dont even show in the store

too bad the mod manager looks really nice

[violet osprey]

You dont need thunderstore

Just install manually on the thunderstore website for gale

I think you need Microsoft net or smth for it to run

Whatever its called

[undone swallow]

its working

but one issue

oh nvm

its perfect

thanks

[violet osprey]

Np

[frank timber]

anyone got an idea what this means?

i just tried installing the latest gale version 1.2.0 and then this happened

then i reinstalled it multiple times, alongside the game itself so its starting from scratch, still the same issue

[main plume]

delete the profile or if you scroll up #1246088342458863618 message

AppData\Roaming\com.kesomannen.gale

[frank timber]

alr

oh shit, it works

thanks <3

[sharp zinc]

Guys, I think there's a significant issue with Gale. While updating Darmuh's terminal mod, I noticed a problem. Darmuh has also updated the library mod required for the mod and added its updated version as a dependency. However, when updating the mod with Gale, the dependency mod isn't being updated. It seems like you have to notice that the dependency mod's version has changed and manually update it yourself. Is there any setting related to this, or is this really a shortcoming? Could you check?

[umbral herald]

That is a shortcoming, but it's more of a thunderstore issue since their dependency format is very limited

[hoary pawn]

hello~ my friend having an issue where they cant launch the game modded but they have the mod profile and right directory. how can we fix it?

when clicking launch game, lethal company launches but not modded

[umbral herald]

Send the log

[hoary pawn]

how can i see that? 😅

wait i see it

that's their only gale log

[umbral herald]

Can they try launch modded and then send the log from the same gale session?

[hoary pawn]

lmao when they launched the modded lethal from r2modman then try again in gale. it works now

dunno what happen

[umbral herald]

alright, glad it works

[tender hare]

My pc bluescreened when I was using gale and now it says this even though I reinstalled it

[nova sandal]

bruh what kind of black magic is gale using that caused a BSOD

[tender hare]

I dont know

I had to delete the directory

but its working now

[violet osprey]

am i the only one that NEVER has problems with gale

[stiff quest]

I wish gale handled issues a bit more gracefully

[umbral herald]

I've definitely improved it over time, but I'm not sure what it can do if the OS crashes and it's left with corrupted json files (except use an atomic database but that's a bit out of scope)

[stiff quest]

Yeah, that makes sense.

Good to hear you're improving the error handling though 🙂

[frigid heron]

abandon json, return to monke

[twin wigeon]

perhaps one fairly easy solution would be to rename the old json as a backup before writing changes, and then on loading fall back to that backup

I would expect that would be at least less likely to cause corruption of all data

[stuck fog]

It's not that important, but it's a bit annoying: some symbols are not visible in the config

[hoary pawn]

what could be the problem?

[tranquil ember]

@umbral herald Wtf is going on

Gale is refusing to load, and instead vomits out this error

??

[main plume]

#1246088342458863618 message

but also send logs/manifest here, if you do remove it (but before removing)

not enough info

[umbral herald]

yeah maybe

[umbral herald]

Network/thunderstore issue

just try again

[umbral herald]

Your computer probably crashed or something while gale was writing to a file and it got corrupted

[tranquil ember]

Hm

Noted

I did forcefully shut down my computer yesterday

[umbral herald]

you could try to recover your profiles but the easiest is just to delete everything

[tranquil ember]

I did recover my shit thankfully

[umbral herald]

alr

[tender hare]

do you know how to get bepinex on there

I tried but it would not work

[umbral herald]

i have no idea

[undone swallow]

@umbral herald can you make it so if you download a code from another player the mod configs also get downloaded?

and make it so you can select multiple mods and transfer them to another profile. not code. and that it doesnt transfer the mod configs

[nova sandal]

it does

[echo comet]

That's how it already is though?

[undone swallow]

it doesnt tho

[nova sandal]

thats like what codes do

[undone swallow]

my friend downloaded a code from me yet it didnt transfer the mod config

ahh i think its because i changed the config after generating the code

[undone swallow]

what about this one

[nova sandal]

i dont think you can but you can re download them in the other profile and then manually move the config in file explorer

for now

[primal barn]

I think its supposed to but is maybe broken

[main plume]

yeah I think you can simply blame either thunder or your pc for that

or use file instead of code

[main plume]

yeah I suggested this months ago but I don't think it went anywhere

however mine was more "import packs of mods into a profile" but i solved it by making it a modpack so I can add at any time

[undone swallow]

oh

because im getting tired of downloading mods 1 by 1 from another mod pack

[young sorrel]

Failed to upload pack - Failed to submit package: unexpected error: 400 Bad Request.

???

Just uploaded another pack without issue. Now have this error. I am confuse.

Ahhh. Can I have/use multiple API tokens?

For posting under different teams?

hmmm welp that fixed it...

But will my other Team need a new token now haha

[main plume]

friend has been getting this all day now

gonna try with cleared cache and admin

[umbral herald]

wait for mod fetching to complete

then go to another page and back or hit F5

[main plume]

oh maybe..