Buttery Fixes | Lethal Company Modding | Page 14

trim breach Mar 29, 2026, 6:21 PM

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i mean lowkey

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you're just gonna have to alter Terminal.playerScreenTex directly

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or overwrite it with your own custom render texture

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unless you patch out this terminal thing

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the terminal script is always active and enabled

trim breach Mar 29, 2026, 6:22 PM

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trim breach you're just gonna have to alter Terminal.playerScreenTex directly

like i said, BF only gets away with making changes because this is what i was doing

thorn breach Mar 29, 2026, 6:23 PM

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i might just transpile tbh but ill probably just edit playerScreenTex directly

meager estuary Mar 30, 2026, 7:36 AM

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I’m going to tentatively say v80 has the potential to be better than v50

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No new moons is the only ‘bad’ thing I can really say about it. Otherwise there’s a ton of “Buttery will love this” I see in the patch notes

still mantle Mar 30, 2026, 7:58 AM

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fuck stare

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 7:58 AM

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meager estuary No new moons is the only ‘bad’ thing I can really say about it. Otherwise there’...

I DID

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 7:58 AM

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meager estuary I’m going to tentatively say v80 has the potential to be better than v50

v50 was definitely "more content" and i think it will be hard to ever top an update of that scale again

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but maybe zeekerss will rise to the challenge

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i think v80 is maybe first place for "the most improvements over the previous version of the game" though

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like everything he's changed just feels so smooth and good

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the game feel is so much better even if the content was a bit lighter

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im so glad the kidnapper fox is back

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we've seen the new stuff very briefly and it all looks very sick

meager estuary Mar 30, 2026, 8:08 AM

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v50 does have more content yeah but I am a quality over quantity guy

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I say Mario Kart 7 has the best track selection in the series even though Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has 96 tracks with the DLC. I will take 32 tracks where 90% if them are peak vs 96 where half are slop

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I am gonna think of v80 as the “Zeekerss put bug fix/optimization mods into vanilla” update

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Which I for one could not be more happy for

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:16 AM

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meager estuary I am gonna think of v80 as the “Zeekerss put bug fix/optimization mods into vani...

still no cruiser changes :(

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not a lick of bug fixes to the cruiser

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none

daring steeple Mar 30, 2026, 8:16 AM

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more likely for that to happen closer to release

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:16 AM

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maybe

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the rest of the update is awesome i love it

paper garden Mar 30, 2026, 8:17 AM

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the enemies are so cool

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if I ignore the plant

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 8:17 AM

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the dynamic of me being so happy for the update and then opening the cruiser related threads and seeing you so sad is probabl y the funniest part of this update experience

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:17 AM

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😭

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im just sad it received no changes

daring steeple Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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its not a major priority

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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so Cruiser mods still needed then

daring steeple Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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Actually wait

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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radiant nymph so Cruiser mods still needed then

ya

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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this means I can have the Nuclear Cruiser

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pog

meager estuary Mar 30, 2026, 8:18 AM

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subtle compass still no cruiser changes :(

Ah well, there’s always more

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:19 AM

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daring steeple its not a major priority

i mean i guess that's fair

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but not everything in the update was :)

meager estuary Mar 30, 2026, 8:20 AM

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Worst part about the update is it will probably cause another mod apocalypse

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:20 AM

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radiant nymph this means I can have the Nuclear Cruiser

and cruiserimproved

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 8:20 AM

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Ye

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 8:20 AM

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unless something is broken with CI that i didnt notice when testing

meager estuary Mar 30, 2026, 8:23 AM

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daring steeple more likely for that to happen closer to release

That’s what I’m wondering too, if even more might be in store

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Never know…

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:04 PM

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concerning resolutions...

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zeekerss kept 860x520 the default

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he did not add 970x580 as a selectable option (Sad)

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but he did add the 620x350 setting... kinda

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he actually added 620x364 to, i assume, improve on the aspect ratio stretching

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it is a more comparable ratio

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for sure

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anyways he also added 400x260

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and 186x104

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in the next update i will probably just add a "Force Max Quality" config setting

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which will make the game always render at 970x580 (not just in the terminal)

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since you can basically just use the in-game resolution settings to replicate the "Low" setting

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:09 PM

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are you able to add it into the settings? im not sure how hard that is

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that would so much cleaner though

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i thought about doing that honestly

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:09 PM

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i would like to do that

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yeah

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but

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i will need to do some hacky stuff internally

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to prevent it from saving an invalid index to your save file

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and breaking things if you ever stop using butteryfixes

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:10 PM

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fairr

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:10 PM

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so the config option is my fallback option

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:10 PM

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that's an assumption you never assume

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:10 PM

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i will at first try to add a resolution setting directly

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because i agree it'd be much nicer

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and more intuitive that way

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 12:11 PM

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🥹

snow girder Mar 30, 2026, 3:16 PM

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Since you mentioned the game actually uses two resolutions I'd love if we could set them both separately. I personally like the low res look for gameplay. I think it blends the enemies better with the environment, especially at a distance. However with the amount of information printed on the terminal with some mods I kinda have to reduce the font size and then it's impossible to read at vanilla high res ig.

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 5:40 PM

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snow girder Since you mentioned the game actually uses two resolutions I'd love if we could ...

im not really planning to make resolution customizable

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i think it's probably better to use a mod suited specifically for that purpose

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the only reason it was in this mod at all is because i thought it was a cut feature and i wanted to restore it as a small bonus thing

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at this point it is clear to me it was not ever a cut feature i just didnt realize how it was implemented when i made the setting

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but since i've provided support for "terminal resolution" outside of the terminal, i do feel like i should keep the option there for people who were using my mod for that

snow girder Mar 30, 2026, 6:15 PM

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i see. Guess that's a request for LCUltrawide then

meager estuary Mar 30, 2026, 8:36 PM

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I had heard that Barbers have multiple of them spawning again, is this true?

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 8:52 PM

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he did not change barbers at all in v80

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so if that's the case

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they will be totally broken

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still

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lol

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 8:56 PM

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I heard they were getting fixed, just prolly in a later update

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 8:57 PM

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I don't know where you heard that

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I don't think I saw zeekerss talking about it

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 8:58 PM

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Beef said it was happening

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I guess he saw it on the Patreon somewhere

thorn breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:02 PM

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The only person I would ever trust on this kind of thing is buttery because they're actually in there and not just seeing screenshots or rumours and they keep up really well

ruby dagger Mar 30, 2026, 9:08 PM

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thorn breach The only person I would ever trust on this kind of thing is buttery because they...

We're in there

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Yes, Zeekerss mentioned fixing barbers

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We guess it didn't come this update

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or at least in the beta

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 9:19 PM

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trim breach they will be totally broken

Do any of your fix mods work right now?

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I know MaskFixes is broken according to Chuxia

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:20 PM

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radiant nymph Do any of your fix mods work right now?

i have no idea

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i have been only playing games

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 9:20 PM

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fair

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:20 PM

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not working on mods

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i hope to get to that later tonight

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once my friends stop playing

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i can practically guarantee butteryfixes is broken or at least not worth using right now

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like my forest giant patch will probably make them really dumb in v80

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:22 PM

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thorn breach I don't think I saw zeekerss talking about it

lso yes

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i literally can not find any source for this

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and i've tried searching

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beef is the only person ive heard mention it

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 9:28 PM

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@trim breach It should work, looks like one of your transpilers safely fails

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:29 PM

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he changed the signature for killplayer

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i imagine that's all that's wrong

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 9:29 PM

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Yeah

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:29 PM

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i just need to update my transpiler to support the new parameter spacing

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 9:29 PM

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But yeah it should work then, just not that patch

subtle compass Mar 30, 2026, 9:29 PM

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trim breach he changed the signature for killplayer

yes

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1 extra parameter

trim breach Mar 30, 2026, 9:29 PM

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radiant nymph But yeah it should work then, just not that patch

kinda sucks though because that patch is the one that makes player mimicking work

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in vanilla only the host can see mimics

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everybody else just sees default orange masked

radiant nymph Mar 30, 2026, 9:30 PM

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Mirage appears to possibly be completely broken

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I could not load a lobby with it, no error

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just stuck loading

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 12:09 AM

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@thorn breach i figure you probably have the best idea of this given that you were working on updating dawnlib earlier

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is using the patcher "relatively stable" right now

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i know if you just use it off rip it has trouble finding some dungen references

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and i know there's some shader issues now

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i was looking around and couldnt seem to find anybody conclusively saying "do this for ripping v80" though

thorn breach Mar 31, 2026, 1:17 AM

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trim breach is using the patcher "relatively stable" right now

Doesn't work but I know what you need to do basically to make it work

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I'll try to get zaggys repo updated if he doesn't himself

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Also DawnLib did get updated :p

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Rn I'm unsure if my priority is fixing all modded moons or getting patcher back up, probably patcher

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 1:23 AM

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thorn breach Doesn't work but I know what you need to do basically to make it work

lol

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is it easy enough to explain

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having a working decompile would help me get my stuff up-to-date sooner but i guess if a "more proper" solution is in the works maybe i ought to wait

thorn breach Mar 31, 2026, 1:24 AM

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trim breach is it easy enough to explain

Kind of, basically this update brought about two new things for the code

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DunGen update and he actually uses the new Rpc params now

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Before we had them but he didn't use em

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DunGen update was low-key so destructive for modded interiors and anything around that and that's because DunGen used to be packaged inside of Assembly CSharp

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Its now split up into it's own 3 dlls

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The patcher knows they exist but they're being told to be included in the patch, the patcher has a field you can edit for that though! That's one thing we gotta do, edit the dlls field to include new dlls

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The other thing is that in v73's rip, we had to edit the NGO scrubbing code to properly scrub out the new rpc code logic, but I think we just forgot about the newer rpc's since they weren't in use

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I believe someone already posted code for this

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This is why the update for the patcher is kinda ready, it just needs to be put together

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 5:36 AM

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@jade badge @cursive otter player weight gets reset to 0 whenever ReviveDeadPlayers() runs at the end of a round

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lol

cursive otter Mar 31, 2026, 5:36 AM

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oh lol

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 5:36 AM

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i think this is what was causing the weird 0lbs thing

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it might not actually have to do with the utility slot

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weight might not get recalculated until you drop and pick up items again

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or maybe it recalculates weight but only for your non-utility slot items

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 6:49 AM

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zeekerss changed inShipPhase to update for the same time for all clients

subtle compass Mar 31, 2026, 6:50 AM

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so no more sapsucker issues?

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 6:50 AM

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trim breach zeekerss changed `inShipPhase` to update for the same time for all clients

except he made all clients, including the host, use the later timing (when the ship doors open) instead of when the lever is pulled...

subtle compass Mar 31, 2026, 6:50 AM

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oh

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so more broken sapsucker?

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 6:51 AM

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well actually

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he apparently fixed sapsuckers in v73

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and i just didnt know

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the problem is that he never fixed sapsucker eggs

subtle compass Mar 31, 2026, 6:51 AM

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oh?

trim breach Mar 31, 2026, 6:51 AM

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and i assume v80 did not change anything about that

ruby dagger Apr 1, 2026, 1:31 AM

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Does this mod fix terminal keywords being bad?

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E.g. show ties to shovel instead of shower

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or telep tying to television instead of teleporter

thorn breach Apr 1, 2026, 1:38 AM

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new notif in zeekerss server:
checks bug-reporting:
sees its just @trim breach doing another report
clears notifs and moves on
(it's just funny how oftne this happens, i do read the bugs cuz they seem interesting :p)

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 1:41 AM

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lol

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well

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i really try to make them digestible so im glad you enjoy them i suppose

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part of me wonders if zeekerss hates how much im spoonfeeding this information

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like he understands this code enough to have written it in the first place, but

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anyways

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 1:42 AM

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ruby dagger Does this mod fix terminal keywords being bad?

no

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ive always just used this mod which does the thing you're asking for

Thunderstore

TerminalConflictFix v1.2.2

Narrows down terminal conflicts if more letters match one word than another

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:22 AM

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@thorn breach did the patcher stuff go over well

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im still kind of in the weeds with BF running into a bunch of stuff that's annoying without editor access

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lol

thorn breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:23 AM

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nope, im supposed to be getting help from someone who got it working in like 5 hours but A. I'll be sleeping and B. I tried their code and it didnt work for me so there's something I'm missing lol

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:23 AM

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lol

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i see

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well that's unfortunate but thank you

thorn breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:24 AM

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yea, ill still try to update it as soon as i can if what they send me works, and ill definitely let you know

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 3:59 PM

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now that the patcher is working

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i would really hope i can get BF out today

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if absolutely nothing else

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i need my BF... it's like building a house and then deciding you'd rather live in a stack of leaves in your backyard for a week

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even if v80 made that stack of leaves very colorful and pretty and coated them in sugary syrup

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zeekerss increased key price from $3 to $5

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but still didn't fix them being marked as non-scrap items

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so they still can't be sold

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lol

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 4:47 PM

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LOL

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does this mean it'll be changed to actually be able to be sold since that's more clearly his intention now?

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:49 PM

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idk

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i could make KeysAreScrap default to true

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but the problem is that means keys disappear on wipe and can't be placed into a belt bag

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the latter requires using BagConfig by matty

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because i dont want to patch the bag to fix that

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it requires a transpiler and will more than likely just break matty's stuff

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 4:54 PM

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hrmm

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i see

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:55 PM

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cursive otter does this mean it'll be changed to actually be able to be sold since that's more...

i probably will still do that

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players can turn it off if they dont want it

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and i agree this makes his intention that keys sell for money very clear

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and not just a holdover he never fixed

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 4:56 PM

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ture

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true

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 4:57 PM

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ideally he'd just fix this himself though

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if we had a world where keys sold for $5 but were also whitelisted in the bag that would be ideal

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personally i think they should be lost on wipe if they're worth money

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i think it's very important that there is a clear cutoff of "you lose all your money if you die" and keys would muddy that

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 5:03 PM

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yah

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it makes sense

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 11:22 PM

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the next changelog is absolutely massive

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will probably be the longest changelog for any butteryfixes update

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sorry in advance

subtle compass Apr 1, 2026, 11:22 PM

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that's oki :)

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 11:32 PM

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nothing to be sorry about!!! awesome bf update for awesome v80

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 11:34 PM

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v1.1.0

Improved physics when using a jetpack while tulip snakes are riding you

Fixed boombox pitch staying wrong if you recharge it on low battery

Fixed dropped butler knives not showing "Value: $35" until reloading your save

Fixed Doppler effect still applying to the jetpack when you are the one flying it

Added a config setting to disable/reduce the Doppler effect for music players

Added a config setting for the unused resolution quality settings

v1.0.2

Fast Climbing and BetterLadders compatibility

Now hides "fake helmet" shadow

v1.0.1

Eclipsed Rend hotfix

v1.0.0

Initial release

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im just kind of amazed at how this mod started out

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the first version of the mod i released literally fucked up rend, i made it permanently eclipsed and increased its power level to test some nutcracker changes i made lol

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both of these jetpack fixes are in Jetpack Fixes now

opal cairn Apr 1, 2026, 11:36 PM

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ok guys new challenge
Q10 rend with butteryfixes first version

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 11:36 PM

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looking at this now i had no idea it would balloon to this level eventually

opal cairn Apr 1, 2026, 11:36 PM

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lowest sensitivity, stop moving is not allowed

paper garden Apr 1, 2026, 11:37 PM

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to be loved is to be changed

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 11:37 PM

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my bad

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i made eclipses 3 -> 4 and increased inside power level 10 -> 25

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still i cant believe i released this by accident lol

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 11:38 PM

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Rend Eclipsed Challenge...

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i kind of love it

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 11:38 PM

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paper garden to be loved is to be changed

i suppose it is true

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i have been missing this in v80

cursive otter Apr 1, 2026, 11:38 PM

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humble beginnings

trim breach Apr 1, 2026, 11:39 PM

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i need my BF back

ruby dagger Apr 1, 2026, 11:43 PM

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opal cairn ok guys new challenge Q10 rend with butteryfixes first version

I'd unironically be up for that with you and Alex

opal cairn Apr 1, 2026, 11:47 PM

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ruby dagger I'd unironically be up for that with you and Alex

im not gonna roll back whatever version of lethal company is needed

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 12:01 AM

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i mean

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i could just write a plugin that just incorporates those changes into v80

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if you want to do the rend eclipsed challenge

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in v80 the update

hollow palm Apr 2, 2026, 12:07 AM

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v80 the update

meager estuary Apr 2, 2026, 4:01 AM

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trim breach im just kind of amazed at how this mod started out

Following our passion takes us to places never thought possible

unborn geyser Apr 2, 2026, 4:57 AM

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Haiiiii

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Im kinda curious on the state of most buttery mods

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Is it too broken?/ how much will it change :0

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 5:09 AM

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trim breach will probably be the longest changelog for any butteryfixes update

i have done almost nothing but work on butteryfixes today

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i wanna say it's close but honestly i just dont know

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i havent looked at the radar scripts yet and those are going to be a real headache

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but i think everything else is straightening out soon

cursive otter Apr 2, 2026, 5:19 AM

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you got this!!! greed

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 11:10 AM

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hey buttery, have you made that one change to buttery fixes in order for it not to conflict with my interiors for whatever reasons?

unborn geyser Apr 2, 2026, 11:31 AM

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trim breach but i think everything else is straightening out soon

Amazing!!!! I wish you thr best and hope everything goes amazing for you and your mods :3

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Tysm for making these amazing mods, cook cook!!

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:33 PM

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mellow umbra hey buttery, have you made that one change to buttery fixes in order for it not ...

yes but i never got the chance to release it before v80

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:33 PM

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oh

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what exactly was the reason that caused to conflicts though?

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because if it is something i can change then it's fine

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:35 PM

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honestly i have no idea

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i just changed my code to ignore all non-vanilla interiors since im not patching them anyway

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the only thing i think could have maybe been wrong was if you had an empty tile in your interior or something

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like a tile with no gameobject

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but idk if thats even possible

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:41 PM

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trim breach like a tile with no gameobject

impossible, only things close to it are entry tiles

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and they have a doorway

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sure there isn't anything about there being no vents?

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because i did change that and i don't know if that could cause an issue

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:47 PM

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i dont think the class that was crashing cares if there are vents

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im not sure how code privy you are

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https://github.com/ButteryStancakes/ButteryFixes/blob/4f2435d8ed1a4695152b45472a9ceff8e8997f03/Utility/TileOverrides.cs#L11

GitHub

ButteryFixes/Utility/TileOverrides.cs at 4f2435d8ed1a4695152b45472a...

Lethal Company plugin. Fixes a lot of miscellaneous gameplay issues with vanilla. - ButteryStancakes/ButteryFixes

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but this is the function that was crashing

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it was pulling a NullReferenceException and i went through to see what i was doing

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and it looked like everything i was doing had enough null checking to prevent that except tile.name, tile.gameObject, and tile.transform

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so if your interior had some sort of null tile in it, or a tile with no gameobject/transform attached, those are the only points of failure

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although i think i caught another thing i missed just now

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@mellow umbra by any chance did you have a "GarageTile" in your interior?

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:50 PM

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yup

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:50 PM

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okay

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that is likely what was wrong then

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actually

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my code is missing a single null check when it searches for a specific gameobject in the GarageTile from the manors

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:51 PM

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how exactly, was it mistaking stuff because of naming convention?

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:51 PM

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so if you have a GarageTile without that gameobject in it

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my code would cause a crash right there

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most likely

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im willing to bet that is what the problem was

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now that i've caught that

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:51 PM

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trim breach so if you have a GarageTile without that gameobject in it

which gameobject?

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:52 PM

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https://github.com/ButteryStancakes/ButteryFixes/blob/4f2435d8ed1a4695152b45472a9ceff8e8997f03/Utility/TileOverrides.cs#L90

GitHub

ButteryFixes/Utility/TileOverrides.cs at 4f2435d8ed1a4695152b45472a...

Lethal Company plugin. Fixes a lot of miscellaneous gameplay issues with vanilla. - ButteryStancakes/ButteryFixes

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you needed an object called "HangingLEDBarLight (4)" as a child of your garage tile

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because i dont null check that before searching for "IndirectLight (1)" as a child of that object

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i only nullcheck the indirect light

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:52 PM

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can renaming the tile prefab work?

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:52 PM

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so that simple goof is probably what was crashing this function (and thus crashing roundmanager)

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/toucan-bird-loaf-loafing-animal-gif-16156592159053577301

Tenor

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:53 PM

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mellow umbra can renaming the tile prefab work?

if you want this to work in v73 then yeah most likely

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again, it'll be handled in v80

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:53 PM

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lmao

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:53 PM

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but

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i can't really publish a new v73 version at this point

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unfortunately

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i guess i could stash all my changes and do this hotfix but im so close to releasing v1.17.0 for v80 anyway

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and i dontw ant to delay that any longer than i have to, at this point

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:54 PM

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i'm just gonna do that one change and i'll call it the day

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i'll tell you if that worked out fine

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:54 PM

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but anyways all you need to do is rename that tile

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i think

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just something like "GarageTileB" would be fine

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even

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literally just any other name

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:54 PM

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i'll keep you updated

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thanks for the help

trim breach Apr 2, 2026, 1:55 PM

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also about the frostpecker thing IDK i still hadn't had a chance to look at it before v80 dropped but i still hope i can provide some information on that eventually

mellow umbra Apr 2, 2026, 1:57 PM

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we can only hope

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i did change its nav agent to be medium quality but that was all i think would do stupid stuff to its AI

trim breach Apr 3, 2026, 6:15 AM

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i was so close to finishing the update

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but then zeekerss released a massive v81 patch

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so

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🙃

meager estuary Apr 3, 2026, 7:27 AM

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Btw Old Birds were not actually fixed

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Gotta wait for v82 ig

trim breach Apr 3, 2026, 7:35 AM

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meager estuary Btw Old Birds were not actually fixed

what do you mean

meager estuary Apr 3, 2026, 7:35 AM

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Their flying is still broken

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They fly but just sit there in the air

trim breach Apr 3, 2026, 7:38 AM

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i just loaded into a game on eclipsed embrion

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3 old birds entered flight mode immediately and landed just fine

radiant nymph Apr 3, 2026, 7:40 AM

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meager estuary They fly but just sit there in the air

Prolly didn't update version or you have a mod breaking them

trim breach Apr 3, 2026, 7:40 AM

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on that note i am noticing it looks like old birds immediately enter their flight mode upon spawning now

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which seems like it is maybe not intended but is also maybe cool and not an issue

meager estuary Apr 3, 2026, 9:18 AM

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Hmmm

slate venture Apr 4, 2026, 9:31 PM

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Thx

ruby dagger Apr 4, 2026, 10:40 PM

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Absolute peak

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Ty for the update <3

meager estuary Apr 4, 2026, 11:22 PM

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Wait, so Keys actually sell for $3 now? So you still keep them after wipes?

trim breach Apr 4, 2026, 11:26 PM

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meager estuary Wait, so Keys actually sell for $3 now? So you still keep them after wipes?

zeekerss added a special case

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keys sold at the company desk now give you money

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as the only non-scrap item that sells for money

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the fact that they aren't scrap means they still fit in belt bags

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and still aren't lost on game over

meager estuary Apr 5, 2026, 12:10 AM

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Darn

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Pretty peak imo

fringe charm Apr 5, 2026, 1:08 AM

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trim breach zeekerss added a special case

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
ButteryFixes.Patches.General.TerminalPatches.Terminal_Post_Start (Terminal __instance) (at <3629bd2fbad74912befc93fb16907bc9>:IL_006E)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::Start(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineTerminal::Start?692649184(Terminal)
LethalLib.Modules.Enemies.Terminal_Start (On.Terminal+orig_Start orig, Terminal self) (at ./Modules/Enemies.cs:141)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookTerminal::Start?-1558590272(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineTerminal::Start?-399128292(Terminal)
Dawn.StoryLogRegistrationHandler.RegisterStoryLogs (On.Terminal+orig_Start orig, Terminal self) (at ./src/API/StoryLogs/.StoryLogRegistrationHandler.cs:23)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookTerminal::Start?427622136(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineTerminal::Start?1111032154(Terminal)
Dawn.WeatherRegistrationHandler.RegisterModdedWeathers (On.Terminal+orig_Start orig, Terminal self) (at ./src/API/Weathers/.WeatherRegistrationHandler.cs:21)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookTerminal::Start?1611104904(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineTerminal::Start?-858661972(Terminal)
Dawn.TerminalCommandRegistration.AssignTerminalPriorites (On.Terminal+orig_Start orig, Terminal self) (at ./src/API/TerminalCommands/.TerminalCommandRegistration.cs:405)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookTerminal::Start?566574688(Terminal) issue when using teminal mods

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when starting a new save after deleting a leaving a previous one

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it reverts it to the vanilla terminal

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save 1 and save 2

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comparison

fringe charm Apr 5, 2026, 3:07 PM

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just checking if this was seen

trim breach Apr 5, 2026, 4:16 PM

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fringe charm just checking if this was seen

it was yeah

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off the top of my head i dont immediately understand what is wrong here

fringe charm Apr 5, 2026, 4:17 PM

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KK

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no rush

trim breach Apr 5, 2026, 4:17 PM

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but i was midgame and couldnt do anything at the time

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zeekerss released another another patch and fixed even more stuff i had in this mod

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so there will be a 1.17.1 "shortly"

trim breach Apr 5, 2026, 4:38 PM

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fringe charm [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an inst...

okay i think this is "technically a mod conflict" but it's a mod conflict causing very unsafe code i wrote to throw an error

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and it's a mod conflict that is very easy for literally any mod to trigger by accident

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so i definitely need to patch this

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thanks for letting me know, im pretty confident it wont be an issue in the next update, but if you want to send me your code so i can double check for you i can do that

slate venture Apr 5, 2026, 7:03 PM

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  at ButteryFixes.Utility.ScriptableObjectOverrides.OverrideSelectableLevels () [0x00025] in <3629bd2fbad74912befc93fb16907bc9>:0 
  at ButteryFixes.Patches.General.StartOfRoundPatches.StartOfRound_Post_Awake (StartOfRound __instance) [0x00000] in <3629bd2fbad74912befc93fb16907bc9>:0 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::Awake>(StartOfRound)
``` log this error too

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If I start a new save won't log this error

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but if I open a save file its gonna log this error and the other one

trim breach Apr 5, 2026, 7:08 PM

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yes, i think i made the same mistake in two places

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i can handle this in the next version

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too

meager estuary Apr 6, 2026, 12:42 AM

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With the full release of v80/81, I think I am gonna give it the silver medal for second best LC update to date. If it had Liquidation I think it could have topped v50, but it still more than earned second place. Easily better than v60 and v70, in fact a lot of what makes it good is how it fixes parts of those previous updates. I can happily say the game is in a state now that it feels good to play vanilla after being so used to mods!

trim breach Apr 6, 2026, 12:45 AM

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meager estuary With the full release of v80/81, I think I am gonna give it the silver medal for...

yes that was my big takeaway

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even just playing vanilla in the early days of release

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i was blown away at how good playing with no mods felt after so long of getting used to them

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there's some stuff im never gonna trade

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like i like BF and ESF and scrollinverter etc.

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i could definitely feel i was missing some things i liked

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but the overall game state is really really good right now

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best it's ever been

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it's hard for me to say whether it tops v50 or if v50 remains "the best" but at the very least they have fierce competition in my mind

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was great to get something like that after such a long wait

fringe charm Apr 6, 2026, 12:47 AM

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meager estuary With the full release of v80/81, I think I am gonna give it the silver medal for...

as much as I loved the new enemies idk if zeekers can top the old birds in my mind

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he really blew it out of the park with them

paper garden Apr 6, 2026, 12:50 AM

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I'm in love with Cadaver

meager estuary Apr 6, 2026, 12:53 AM

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I can see an argument for v80 over v50, but yeah 3 moons and 3 iconic enemies (including everyone’s goat) really is the wombo combo. Plus v50 had a good few bug fixes from v49. Either way I agree v50’s title was definitely in jeopardy

paper garden Apr 6, 2026, 12:55 AM

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ima be soo lowkey idk about being in jeopardy

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bc nothing is topping the combo of Spike Trap, Tulip Snake, Adamance, Butler, Knife, Old Bird, Artifice

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disco bal

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and giants being killable

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and Dine not being Rend 2

meager estuary Apr 6, 2026, 1:07 AM

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I will concede that v80 maybe hits a bit more for me than others. I really really dig the QoL and sound improvements, I have been saying for months I would take a fixes and improvements update over new content. v50 still edges it out but v80 is exactly the kind of update I wanted

worldly dew Apr 6, 2026, 1:41 AM

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I'm gonna be truth and real and say that it took . . . too long to get v80 as far as the grander playerbase goes. WIth the fixes and improvements it bought, we really should have gotten most of those long, long ago.

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Like holy glorp

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Last major update we got was v60, with mineshafts and maneaters. That was almost 2 years ago now.

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With the extreme lethal drought, I personally feel that v80 is the most substantial update we've got, simply down to how long it has been along with the magnitude of the polish we have gotten. All prior updates where effectively just adding more and more content, and where pretty close to each other in terms of release windows.

meager estuary Apr 6, 2026, 2:32 AM

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I mean the hype train was never gonna last forever

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REPO and then Peak came out, and then the wider internet labeled all these games “friendslop” and moved on

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The momentum was dying by v50 and never picked back up, and that update is at least on par with v80

brazen vapor Apr 6, 2026, 2:36 AM

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it seems like disabling the head bobbing setting in vanilla doesnt affect the headbob while crouching
do u think this could be added to butteryfix ?
@trim breach

trim breach Apr 6, 2026, 4:01 AM

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kinda depends on what that entails but i dont super want to mess with player cam stuff and i have my hands full with other work

brazen vapor Apr 6, 2026, 4:10 AM

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alright

gilded lintel Apr 6, 2026, 4:25 AM

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@trim breach I think I found an issue with the new "ForceMaxQuality", when you die, your camera view is stuck on your body and seems to be in a frozen state instead of the camera re-locating to the inside of the ship and see it taking off, can you test this out? I just re-create this by loading up a single player game and jump out of the ship early as its landing to die quickly

trim breach Apr 6, 2026, 4:26 AM

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hummmmmmmmm

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well i know what's wrong

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kind of unfortunate

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but i think i can deal with it

slate venture Apr 6, 2026, 12:41 PM

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trim breach like i like BF and ESF and scrollinverter etc.

For me, Butterybalance, some matty mods, Fairer Fire Exits and Science bird tweaks too

minor sleet Apr 6, 2026, 9:21 PM

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@trim breach is the mod recommendations list in the readme up to date? i noticed one of the mods there (ReverbTriggerFix) was last updated 2 years ago so i'm not sure if the mods on that list are still relevant or not

trim breach Apr 6, 2026, 9:22 PM

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everything on that list is relevant as of v73 and will be relevant in v81 once they are updated for compatibility (if they do not already function)

minor sleet Apr 6, 2026, 9:23 PM

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trim breach everything on that list is relevant as of v73 and will be relevant in v81 once t...

but how come reverbtriggerfix is an experimental release since 2 years ago?

trim breach Apr 6, 2026, 9:23 PM

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it's not

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and what it fixes is not changed in v81 to my knowledge

minor sleet Apr 6, 2026, 9:24 PM

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trim breach it's not

ah i guess just the readme is not updated then, because it does say its experimental there

trim breach Apr 6, 2026, 9:26 PM

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there is an experimental setting in that mod disabled by default

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but the mod itself with default settings is basically just free performanfe

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:16 AM

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@trim breach Did you ever figure out why ButteryFixes causes TerminalStuff to break on a lobby reload? Also will ButteryBalance work? I assume it needs a big update lol

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:18 AM

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brb wont work

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and a bunch of its shit is just obsolete now and needs to be reworked/removed anyway

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:18 AM

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Yeah figured lol

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:18 AM

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im not sure when i will get to it

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ive already fixed butteryfixes but i ran out of time to release it before i had to leave for a while

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i just got done testing 1.17.1 and it looks ok so im gonna post it

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:19 AM

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Which of your individual fix mods still work or are needed btw?

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:19 AM

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i dont know which ones work

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but as far as i can tell none of them will be deprecated once im done updating all of them

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:19 AM

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Outside of the ones for Barbers, I know those work since dopa tested ClaySurgeonOverhaul

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:20 AM

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zeekerss fixed a bunch of bugs i (and others) reported in his server but i dont think a single one of my mods is "totally obsolete now"

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if i discover that im wrong i will deprecate it and you will know

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:20 AM

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Ye

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MaskFixes just needs that one transpiler fixed still I believe

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Assuming it's needed

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:21 AM

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he didnt change much about the masks so i assume it will be pretty easily fixed yeah

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he fixed the masked searching for the elevator script every 0.2s

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:21 AM

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Yeah which makes it all the more weird that Mirage is broken and makes it so you can't load lobbies

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lol

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:21 AM

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but he still doesn't use the static elevator reference that works just fine

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so every masked still does one elevator search when it spawns

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but w/e

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:21 AM

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I do not know why Mirage got nuked

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:22 AM

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outside of that im not sure he meaningfully changed anything else about them

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:29 AM

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radiant nymph Yeah which makes it all the more weird that Mirage is broken and makes it so you...

well mirage changes a bunch of stuff not specifically related to masked

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like, primarily it exists for masked, but any enemy can use voice mimicking and stuff

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:29 AM

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Yeah

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:29 AM

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i assume it's something under the hood and not something "masked related" that broke it

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as far as that transpiler goes

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i assume the issue is just zeekerss changing method signatures

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but i need to double check if i can remove any of my patches

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like im curious if zeekerss fixed comedy/tragedy using the wrong mesh like half of the time

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and those wouldn't be code diffs

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 12:34 AM

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☠️

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Someone was impatient

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lol

thorn breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:35 AM

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Buttery, release MaskFixesFinallyFixedForever please

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MFFFF for short

minor sleet Apr 7, 2026, 12:36 AM

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lmao

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:46 AM

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lol

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i mean

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i guess my license permits it

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but yes

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talk about impatience

fringe charm Apr 7, 2026, 12:47 AM

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trim breach lol

was just talking to the dev in mirage thread lol

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they just wanted to for a game they were planning

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 12:58 AM

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as long as they deprecate once i update i don't really mind

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i just don't want it to be difficult for people to find the right stuff

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:19 AM

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ive already done a lot but looking ahead at what i still have to do is so overwhelming

minor sleet Apr 7, 2026, 8:22 AM

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trim breach ive already done a lot but looking ahead at what i still have to do is so overwh...

we really appreciate and love your work, it's honestly really cool how you manage to do all this shit and find motivation for it 💗

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:24 AM

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i think it looks something like this right now

update weed killer fixes (totally broken right now)
update restore mapper (probably just recompile)
maybe update melee fixes to have a failsafe [for hitting snare fleas on your head](#1241591538413207552 message)??? idk what zeekerss did and if i need to handle it
update upturned variety (i wanted to include some new variants and add a vanilla compatibility mode, apparently it works fine in v81 so maybe i can put this off for a little bit)
update keep unlocks??? (i'm not actually sure if it's broken but apparently there's some sort of issue with it i might need to look into)

all of this has to happen in order:

deprecate vent spawn fix
update spawn cycle fix
update barber fixes (to remove outdated dependency)
update butterybalance

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so that's like

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at least 7 mods left to update and i've already done 5

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 8:24 AM

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trim breach i think it looks something like this right now - update weed killer fixes (total...

Vent Spawn Fix is no longer needed?

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:24 AM

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i was in the process of merging it into spawn cycle fixes when v80 released

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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Ah

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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because there's no real reason to keep it separate i feel like

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they're all touching the same systems

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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Zeekerss changed some stuff with Spawn Cycles right?

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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a bunch of it

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yes

radiant nymph Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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I saw some things logging differently in V80

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Yeah I thought as much

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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he fixed a bunch of bugs with the outside spawn predictor (some of those were things i used to fix myself)

paper garden Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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is snare flea thing whatever this is

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:25 AM

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and added the entire diversity system

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and also changed power level so it doesn't spend "extra power level" from killing monsters until the normal power level is already totally full

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im not sure how many bugs still persist but i know at least the vent spawn time bug exists (which also causes inconsistent spawn timing)

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i will have to go through that with a finetooth comb once im working on it

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 8:27 AM

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paper garden is snare flea thing whatever this is

yes im under the impression this is the change that was causing issues but at least glancing at the changes he made im not immediately sure how it would be invalidating shovel hits

paper garden Apr 7, 2026, 8:28 AM

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well whatever the case

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I wish you luck

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Don't stress over the big picture too much

thorn breach Apr 7, 2026, 5:14 PM

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@trim breach something to think about, zeekerss switching to terrain colliders on march and vow makes it so that MaskedPlayerEnemy won't correct for them outside on those moons, they'll be playing footstep sounds meant for untagged ground

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btw he also hardcoded march and vow with their footstep sounds, it is honestly not great how he's doing it rn

trim breach Apr 7, 2026, 6:18 PM

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thorn breach btw he also hardcoded march and vow with their footstep sounds, it is honestly n...

lol

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wtf

thorn breach Apr 7, 2026, 6:20 PM

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i've already made a sort of "solution" in DawnLib for devs, but it is like, he setup something good and then proceeded to just fail the last step to making it dynamic

thorn breach Apr 7, 2026, 6:33 PM

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trim breach wtf

me seeing if vow, interpret this as grass instead of rock

meager estuary Apr 7, 2026, 8:48 PM

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trim breach at least 7 mods left to update and i've already done 5

Keep it up, you’re doing great!

slate venture Apr 8, 2026, 6:06 PM

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teleporting a player killed by the company monster will show the collect notification

slate venture Apr 8, 2026, 8:12 PM

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trim breach Apr 8, 2026, 8:39 PM

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slate venture teleporting a player killed by the company monster will show the collect notifi...

lol should be an easy fix

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thanks

trim breach Apr 8, 2026, 11:19 PM

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slate venture teleporting a player killed by the company monster will show the collect notifi...

literally the only cause of death in vanilla that spawns a ragdoll and then disables it without deactivating or despawning it afterwards

gilded lintel Apr 11, 2026, 4:21 AM

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"LockInTerminal" makes you lose mouse movement if you die while using the terminal, you can use the mouse pointer on the Esc menu but you can't look around anymore.. don't ask how I died on the terminal 🤣 AnimatedPlink

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if its tricky to fix, the locked camera doesn't bother me, I just like the faster typing greed

trim breach Apr 11, 2026, 8:42 AM

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gilded lintel if its tricky to fix, the locked camera doesn't bother me, I just like the faste...

i fixed this although i thought dying at the terminal was supposed to "quit" it

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so it seems weird that it doesnt

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in any case it shouldn't happen again

smoky current Apr 17, 2026, 12:45 AM

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thank you

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for the code i mean

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im stealing from you Lol!

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((i needed to figure out how to reference the playerscreen ingame))

trim breach Apr 17, 2026, 12:46 AM

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smoky current im stealing from you Lol!

that's evil

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andi will graciously ignore it so you are free to do whatever you want with it

smoky current Apr 17, 2026, 12:47 AM

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:3

jolly raven Apr 18, 2026, 3:12 AM

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Are you interested in fixing that one bug with the snare flea rn where it gets stuck to your head and doesn't kill you?

trim breach Apr 18, 2026, 3:23 AM

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"interested" not really but if i figure out what's causing it i will

ruby jay Apr 18, 2026, 5:41 AM

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I haven't been able to test this much, but it seems like Spore Lizards no longer stomp their little legs when you get close to them?
might be bugged or something idk
I could have just gotten very unlucky with getting it to do it's silly little stomp

jolly raven Apr 18, 2026, 6:57 AM

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I saw em do it today

ruby jay Apr 18, 2026, 7:47 AM

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I guess I just got really unlucky

minor sleet Apr 18, 2026, 1:20 PM

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jolly raven Are you interested in fixing that one bug with the snare flea rn where it gets s...

oh so this is a vanilla bug

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makes sense

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i was trying to figure out why it was doing that

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:32 AM

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@trim breach

📎 message.txt

trim breach Apr 19, 2026, 12:34 AM

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when and where did this happen

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:35 AM

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trim breach when and where did this happen

I think on Kenji's moon Thrive, it was the only moon we had a Worm spawn on

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📎 LogOutput.log

trim breach Apr 19, 2026, 12:38 AM

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what did it collide with

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:39 AM

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I have no clue, I saw it pop out a few times near main entrance

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Maybe it didn't like Scandal's Scanvan though?

trim breach Apr 19, 2026, 12:41 AM

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this is specifically what happens when the worm collides with an enemy

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so i doubt it

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it seems more like it collided with an enemy that has its collider set up incorrectly

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:42 AM

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Ohhhh there are a few like custom cadaver bodies on the map

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@manic holly Is it possible you missed smth?

manic holly Apr 19, 2026, 12:43 AM

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they're just emptied husks but i'll check

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maybe i missed something

trim breach Apr 19, 2026, 12:43 AM

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what is most likely happening here is the worm is touching an EnemyAICollisionDetect that does not have an enemyScript assigned

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:44 AM

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Yeah cus I think the only other actual outdoor enemy we had spawn was the Puma but I doubt the Puma would cause it

trim breach Apr 19, 2026, 12:44 AM

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an enemy bugged like this couldn't be killed with other weapons either

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i believe

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:44 AM

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Well

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The Puma was acting weirdly and couldn't hurt players on the ship but

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I think that might have been cus of ShipWindows' EnemyFix

manic holly Apr 19, 2026, 12:47 AM

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i'm looking and i might've left some stuff misstagged as enemy in the corpse

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that might be it

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 12:47 AM

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Prolly yeah

manic holly Apr 19, 2026, 1:01 AM

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thanks for the heads up, i'm trying to fix rn

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 1:02 AM

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No worries lol

subtle compass Apr 19, 2026, 7:34 AM

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radiant nymph Maybe it didn't like Scandal's Scanvan though?

i dont patch anything with worms

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besides what buttery said

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worms have zero interactions with vehiculars

radiant nymph Apr 19, 2026, 7:35 AM

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Yeah no it was the only thing I knew of it came across til Buttery mentioned enemies

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lol

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Cus it was under the van a few times

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XD

subtle compass Apr 19, 2026, 7:35 AM

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ahh i see

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but it do be OnCollideWithEnemy

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lel

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 4:41 AM

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thorn breach are you able to add it into the settings? im not sure how hard that is

btw

thorn breach Apr 20, 2026, 4:43 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/yatta-vividstasis-saturday-saturdaytasogare-fiddy-gif-13870552090495528710

Tenor

brazen vapor Apr 20, 2026, 4:56 AM

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finally im gonna feel less blind

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 4:56 AM

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Weird that I start seeing a lot of vivid/stasis all of sudden after my girlfriend starts playin' it

thorn breach Apr 20, 2026, 5:11 AM

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dont spoil me, i plan to play it later

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 7:37 PM

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@trim breach This is due to you, it seems

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For context, whenever I have ButteryFixes enabled and join a public lobby; the vanilla host is indefinitely unable to land unless I leave. Their screen displays the loading text screen, while mine doesn't, simply showcasing the rumbling of the ship

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I disabled almost all of my mod while debugging this issue, and dumbed it down to ButteryFixes

slate venture Apr 20, 2026, 7:39 PM

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Well, I should have reported this before bc I have tested before with a friend.

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 7:39 PM

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Okay, in that case, can you seriously look into this, Stan?

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This is a severe issue that has screwed over many public lobbies I've joined, and wasted people's time

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 7:42 PM

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[18:50:01.0214798] [Error  : Unity Log] [Netcode] NetworkPrefab hash was not found! In-Scene placed NetworkObject soft synchronization failure for Hash: 4223147627!
[18:50:01.0214798] [Error  : Unity Log] [Netcode] Failed to spawn NetworkObject for Hash 4223147627.
[18:50:01.0214798] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventData.DeserializeScenePlacedObjects () (at <97ae41d8913f4f12b6133336c5f4f494>:IL_009B)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.OnClientLoadedScene (System.UInt32 sceneEventId, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene scene) (at <97ae41d8913f4f12b6133336c5f4f494>:IL_000D)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.OnSceneLoaded (System.UInt32 sceneEventId) (at <97ae41d8913f4f12b6133336c5f4f494>:IL_00DE)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress.<SetAsyncOperation>b__37_0 (UnityEngine.AsyncOperation asyncOp2) (at <97ae41d8913f4f12b6133336c5f4f494>:IL_0012)
UnityEngine.AsyncOperation.InvokeCompletionEvent () (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_000F)

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my guess is this is the error?? but i have no idea how im causing this to happen

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 7:43 PM

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That's what I thought too :d

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But ButteryFixes doesn't touch scenes from what I recall

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 7:43 PM

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it does touch scenes

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 7:43 PM

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Oh

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 7:43 PM

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does this affect every moon

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when landing

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or is it specific moons

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 7:44 PM

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Seems to be every moon, but I can test landing on all 11 moons for you

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I only ever landed on Experimentation during my tests

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 7:46 PM

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im mainly interested in what happens when:

the ship is landed on each moon
either:

the host is using no mods, and client(s) use BF
the host is using BF, and client(s) use no mods

i might be able to test this later with cookie but right now i do not have time to look into what is happening

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 7:47 PM

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I can test both right now

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 7:49 PM

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if you decide to test yourself please let me know what happens when you have only BF installed

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and no other mods

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:05 PM

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trim breach im mainly interested in what happens when: 1. the ship is landed on each moon 2....

Experimentation is affected
Assurance is unaffected
Vow is unaffected
Offense is unaffected
March is unaffected
Adamance is unaffected
Rend is unaffected
Dine is unaffected
Titan is unaffected
Artifice is unaffected
Embrion unaffected

Doesn't make a difference
Lands just fine

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Is weird, as I swear to God, either Titan or Artifice were affected at one point

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:05 PM

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... lol??

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so it's only experimentation that fails

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Might because I'm doing LAN and not Online

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Idk

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:05 PM

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and only if clients are using BF and not the host?

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Yes

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:06 PM

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... okay

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i think what is maybe causing issues is me disabling the door

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the one stuck in the wall at the old fire exit

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:06 PM

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The hatch door from v4..?

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What

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:06 PM

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my guess is that when it's disabled for the host

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clients never have to network spawn it

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but when it's enabled for the host and disabled for clients

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it causes a synchronization issue

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:07 PM

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Why'd you disable said door anyway if it's out of bounds?

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:09 PM

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just because it was out of bounds and it's a minor optimization not having OOB objects loaded

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i disable a bunch of OOB objects under the map too

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there's a bunch of this bullshit just sitting under the map and rendering even though you can't ever see it :p

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:10 PM

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Did you not disable stuff like the floating OOB ladder and silo on Offense...?

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Those're still there

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:10 PM

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trim breach there's a bunch of this bullshit just sitting under the map and rendering even t...

What the fuck lol

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His Roblox roots are still there I see

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:10 PM

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ruby dagger Did you not disable stuff like the floating OOB ladder and silo on Offense...?

i don't disable them because they affect collision

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:10 PM

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o

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:11 PM

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trim breach there's a bunch of this bullshit just sitting under the map and rendering even t...

So these are just models without collision then?

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:11 PM

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which is why i never disabled the experimentation door before like v1.17

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but i guess when i refactored that i broke shit without even realizing it

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well, here is a release candidate for v1.17.4

📎 ButteryFixes.dll

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if you want to try replicating the issue again

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where you use this as a client and host uses no mods

trim breach Apr 20, 2026, 8:18 PM

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trim breach but i guess when i refactored that i broke shit without even realizing it

i changed the scene override to just refit the door into the frame like it did before v1.17

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instead of disabling the object

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:22 PM

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trim breach well, here is a release candidate for v1.17.4

Lands just fine now, yeah

ruby dagger Apr 20, 2026, 8:23 PM

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trim breach i changed the scene override to just refit the door into the frame like it did b...

Why the fuck was it just moved OOB like that 😭

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Zeekerss you had no reason to do that

trim breach Apr 21, 2026, 8:12 AM

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trim breach well, here is a release candidate for v1.17.4

ok it took me way too long to actually get around to releasing this (almost exactly 12 hours)

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but i did put this out

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now

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sorry that i was breaking pubs for you folks

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i think i at least should have a good idea of how to avoid it in the future...

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:37 AM

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I'm sure you're aware of the issue but for the longest time sometimes behind the player's shadow you can see the visor hud just like. hovering there

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I read somewhere that it was fixed? but it keeps happening to me in vanilla anyway

trim breach Apr 26, 2026, 6:39 AM

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wdym

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like

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are you talking about the second helmet

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:41 AM

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ye

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second helmet's just the visor hud manifesting in the player's shadow, right?

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swear on my mommy I saw it behind me playing vanilla a week or two ago

trim breach Apr 26, 2026, 6:42 AM

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yeah it's the helmet shape you can see at the corners of the screen

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:42 AM

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trim breach yeah it's the helmet shape you can see at the corners of the screen

ye

trim breach Apr 26, 2026, 6:42 AM

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it's been broken in vanilla forever

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BF fixes it

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:42 AM

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ah does it? didn't know that

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since when?

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cuz I was playing on my v73 profile and it was still happening

ruby dagger Apr 26, 2026, 6:43 AM

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According to Purple, I guess not, because when he and I were playing my modpack, he could see it, while I couldn't :v

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And this was a few days ago

trim breach Apr 26, 2026, 6:43 AM

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since v1.0.2 apparently

ruby dagger Apr 26, 2026, 6:43 AM

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The log for it is long gone now

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I'd have to get in a game with him next time to get info on it

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But there was jack shit on my end (I was the host)

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:44 AM

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maybe my 3rd person mod fucks w it somehow...

ruby dagger Apr 26, 2026, 6:44 AM

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I don't have anything like that

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:44 AM

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cuz ik that disables it when you go into 3rd person

ruby dagger Apr 26, 2026, 6:44 AM

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I do have ImmersiveVisor, but I don't know how that would fuck with ButteryFixes

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:44 AM

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so maybe it's clashing with BF and then it just undoes the fix?

trim breach Apr 26, 2026, 6:44 AM

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[HarmonyPatch(nameof(PlayerControllerB.ConnectClientToPlayerObject))]
[HarmonyPostfix]
static void PlayerControllerB_Post_ConnectClientToPlayerObject(PlayerControllerB __instance)
{
    // fix some oddities with local player rendering
    Renderer scavengerHelmet = __instance.localVisor.Find("ScavengerHelmet")?.GetComponent<Renderer>();
    if (scavengerHelmet != null)
    {
        scavengerHelmet.shadowCastingMode = ShadowCastingMode.Off;
        Plugin.Logger.LogDebug("\"Fake helmet\" no longer casts a shadow");
    }

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this has been in the mod since may 31st of 2024

jolly raven Apr 26, 2026, 6:45 AM

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ahh ok it's just the shadow you fix

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that makes more sense why it can show up in 3rd person lol

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glad you fix the shadow issue tho

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it's super bothersome lol

trim breach Apr 26, 2026, 6:45 AM

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yes i just fix it making the shadow really ugly

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i dont make any other changes to it

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if any other mods are impacting the renderer's shadow casting mode it will probably overwrite my changes

trim breach Apr 27, 2026, 5:58 AM

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89874772

trim breach Apr 27, 2026, 5:58 AM

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trim breach `89874772`

titan seed with 2 gift boxes

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1 contains a $49 plastic cup

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the other contains... nothing

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literally no idea how that's even possible

slate venture Apr 27, 2026, 9:12 AM

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It happened the same in Rend

normal wigeon Apr 27, 2026, 11:00 AM

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I don't know if this is possible but can you add a blacklist feature for items that should be excluded from the performance report "scrap collected" summery

Would help with mods like the camera from silly things that increases it's value the more pictures you take of monsters or sellbodiesfixed that make enemies drop their bodies

paper garden Apr 27, 2026, 6:16 PM

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What you're talking about sounds like it gets added by a mod

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oh wait no

subtle compass Apr 27, 2026, 6:16 PM

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doesn't seem like something that would be part of BF

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seems more like something sillythings should do on their end

paper garden Apr 27, 2026, 6:18 PM

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Still probably out of scope for this mod but I realize they're probably talking about the pop up for when you bring an item onto the ship and not the screen for right after you leave a moon

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or there really is a mod that does something like that for the after-moon summary thing

trim breach Apr 27, 2026, 7:22 PM

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i struggle with classifying it as "part of this mod's scope" or not

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because technically i am patching the code which is responsible for displaying the scrap tracker

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and so someone trying to fix that issue would probably have to patch my patches, not just vanilla code

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but i also have to explicitly write in support for certain item types (gift boxes were an absolute nightmare in v1.17.5)

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and it's not like my behavior is going to be "more broken than vanilla" because if those mods aren't patching vanilla's code it's going to be just as incorrect

normal wigeon May 1, 2026, 10:28 PM

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ok THIS might be feature that is in the scope of the mod.(ButteRyBalance)
There are quite some features for the cadaver Infection that only exist for singleplayer.
I'd be cool to be able to individually activate theses:

HUD indication for how long the air filter still fully blocks the spores (Filter quality: X%)
HUD indication for high fever when infection reaches 80% or higher, from 101°F to 112°F
HUD indication while at Critical burst ((90% to 100%)shortly before blooming) which says: "High Fever detected!!! Foreign Bodies detected!!! Irregular Brainwave detected!!!"
While Solo the time from 90% to 100% critical burst is 18 seconds and in multiplayer its about 1.7 seconds. I was hoping you could increase this time to maybe 3 seconds so you actually get to experience all the effects(ear ringing, Movement becomes hindered, Vines-in-head audio, Visual poison starts building up) and maybe warn you're team that your head is about to explode

I got most of this info from the wiki but can also speak from experience: https://lethal-company.fandom.com/wiki/Cadaver

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You could also make all these feature into one toggle, I wouldn't mind, I'd just would love to see these while playing with friends

subtle compass May 1, 2026, 10:35 PM

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increasing the time probably crosses the line of "cheat" and probably isn't within the scope of this mod since it's not really a "fix"

normal wigeon May 1, 2026, 11:33 PM

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That would only be a cherry on top feature for me
The thing that I mostly want is the HUD information

cursive otter May 1, 2026, 11:36 PM

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it's still pretty intentionally coded as a singleplayer-only feature

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like, discussion of balance implications aside, it isn't really a bug that needs fixing

normal wigeon May 1, 2026, 11:40 PM

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Oh wait no I forgot to mention this is intended for Buttery Balances

cursive otter May 1, 2026, 11:42 PM

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well #1336205534126407681

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there is a thread for that

normal wigeon May 2, 2026, 12:52 AM

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Damn it, I was looking for that one and didn't find it, thanks

slate venture May 5, 2026, 9:25 PM

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Stack trace:
(wrapper stelemref) System.Object.virt_stelemref_class(intptr,object)
ButteryFixes.Utility.ScrapTracker.TrackGiftBoxOnClient (GiftBoxItem giftBoxItem, GrabbableObject objectInPresent) (at <917cfc9878af4514a1b786f65ad859c9>:0)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GiftBoxItem+<waitForGiftPresentToSpawnOnClient>d__19.DMD<GiftBoxItem+<waitForGiftPresentToSpawnOnClient>d__19::MoveNext>(GiftBoxItem/<waitForGiftPresentToSpawnOnClient>d__19)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:0)``` looks like sometimes it doesn't works with clients

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using this option from additionalnetwork can affect this?

trim breach May 5, 2026, 10:16 PM

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that is sort of bizarre

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no clue what is going on here

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ill have to have a look later

jolly raven May 7, 2026, 4:05 AM

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I'm yet again consulting about sapsucker jank

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my custom moon has an increased random interval for non-targetted lightning strikes and the sapsucker got hit by one and it just tweaked in place for a while until it got hit by another one and died

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is that... a problem that's on me or is the bird just like that?

trim breach May 7, 2026, 5:12 AM

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im not erally familiar with what you are experiencing

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at least

winter widget May 7, 2026, 9:50 AM

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jolly raven my custom moon has an increased random interval for non-targetted lightning stri...

from my experience, the bird will attack in place when hit by lightning

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it's a vanilla thing

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not sure why it happens

jolly raven May 7, 2026, 2:15 PM

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trim breach im not erally familiar with what you are experiencing

well you know how in stormy weather lightning strikes can happen but not target a conductive item?

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one of those struck the bird but it just spewed errors while walking in place

jolly raven May 7, 2026, 2:15 PM

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winter widget not sure why it happens

my hypothesis is that the bird just tries attacking whatever damages is but since the lightning comes and goes it can't target anything?

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so it just sits there

slate venture May 7, 2026, 2:59 PM

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trim breach no clue what is going on here

When a client opens a gift, the scrap inside doesn't show the collected notification.

trim breach May 7, 2026, 4:51 PM

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jolly raven my hypothesis is that the bird just tries attacking whatever damages is but sinc...

this would have been my guess too yeah

jolly raven May 7, 2026, 4:54 PM

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I assume patching/fixing smth like that is a little out of scope/too complicated?

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makes me sad to see the signature enemy in the moon just kinda shit the bed so often but I don't think I can really do much about it

jolly raven May 7, 2026, 4:57 PM

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trim breach this would have been my guess too yeah

yay ❤️ .... im smart ❤️.....

slate venture May 7, 2026, 4:57 PM

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Idk if it's already fixed. But when I died in the quicksand holding an egg, the sapsucker AI broke, and other players were able to get the eggs.

unborn geyser May 11, 2026, 5:17 AM

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opened a giftbox inside the ship

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didint get registered

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this the error

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want me to send complete log/code? :3

trim breach May 11, 2026, 5:35 AM

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no it's probably fine... i dont get how this is happening but i will try to figure it out

thorn breach May 12, 2026, 5:35 AM

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@trim breach are you aware of any bug relating to joining clients thinking experimentation is stormy but only on the monitor's end?

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i thought it was dawnlib until i disabled most of my mods, the monitor on the client says stormy weather (it's not actually stormy weather though)

trim breach May 12, 2026, 5:57 AM

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thorn breach <@235439745486815233> are you aware of any bug relating to joining clients think...

well

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i know that experimentation displays the wrong weather for some clients (maybe all clients?) immediately after being fired

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i wonder if maybe the screen is showing the wrong weather because the seed is getting re-synced (and weather resetting) after the monitor is refreshed

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but also maybe weatherregistry is changing vanilla's behavior

thorn breach May 12, 2026, 6:08 AM

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trim breach but also maybe weatherregistry is changing vanilla's behavior

i didnt have weather registry if thats what you mean

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it was super barebones, and the weather on the terminal etc is accurate, it was just the monitor, i assume zeekerss isn't calling StartOfRound.Instance.SetMapInfoBlahBlah

slate venture May 13, 2026, 4:49 PM

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slate venture When a client opens a gift, the scrap inside doesn't show the collected notifica...

A client opened a gift box, and it worked as it should.

potent belfry May 13, 2026, 6:58 PM

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what this it's new

slate venture May 16, 2026, 10:54 AM

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slate venture ```Error : Unity Log] ArrayTypeMismatchException: Attempted to access an elemen...

Yesterday, I played without reverbtriggerfix because of a problem I noticed, and Idk if it was a coincidence, but all 3 times a client (latejoin too) opened a gift box inside the ship it worked as intended.

trim breach May 17, 2026, 5:59 AM

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slate venture Yesterday, I played without reverbtriggerfix because of a problem I noticed, and...

weird

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i was using reverbtriggerfix myself

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and i toggled it off because of the issue you reported

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but i didnt check if it changed the gift box replication rate for me

slate venture May 18, 2026, 8:55 PM

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that error isn't happening anymore probably it was that

trim breach May 20, 2026, 7:04 AM

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@normal wigeon @sudden sphinx in the latest version of BF i have added a setting which displays filter quality in multiplayer

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it also shows the 3 warnings when you are bursting (but since you usually burst in like 1.7s it's more for flair than anything)

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anything else would be too significant of a balance change for a clientside mod to make (although I may cave and make settings for it in BRB, we will just have to see...)

normal wigeon May 20, 2026, 7:20 AM

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Wow thanks a lot, gonna check it out.

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954843944745844746/1499064106248835162/ezgif.com-optimize_2.gif

worn junco May 20, 2026, 9:01 AM

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normal wigeon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954843944745844746/1499064106248835162/ez...

what that mod spectate? Poltergeist?

normal wigeon May 20, 2026, 9:39 AM

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worn junco what that mod spectate? Poltergeist?

You mean what mod we used to fly around like that? That’s poltergeist yeah 👍

sudden sphinx May 20, 2026, 2:29 PM

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trim breach <@877576745543426048> <@732756447544344637> in the latest version of BF i have a...

tysm!

jolly raven May 20, 2026, 8:44 PM

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normal wigeon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954843944745844746/1499064106248835162/ez...

insane gif

trim breach May 27, 2026, 7:37 PM

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@slate venture

[When a player transforms into a masked, is the bodycam disabled?](#1336202685317120060 message)
this might be a bug that i am causing, my patch for this:

v1.15.6

Fixed head cam still being visible on radar after a player is eaten by the monster at the company building

Also fixes NoBodyNoSignal not applying to the same conditions
seems to be a bit overzealous

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when you are eaten by the company monster, your body gets disabled

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but masks also disable your body (since otherwise there'd be a ragdoll and a mimic at the same time)

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it looks like i was just forgetting to check if the player had a mimic before disabling the headcam

slate venture May 27, 2026, 7:40 PM

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and the cadaver blooms?

trim breach May 27, 2026, 7:44 PM

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the cadaver blooms would be subject to the same bug

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but the same fix would also work

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so it should be fine

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this also reminds me i sort of need to fix the exit line thing

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Line now displays when targeting a "masked"
i dont think this has worked since v80 because of some changes zeekerss made

mellow umbra May 28, 2026, 4:15 PM

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hey buttery, have you noticed that the item region doesn't keep items on the old bird?

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cuz i sure did

subtle compass May 28, 2026, 4:15 PM

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me too

mellow umbra May 28, 2026, 4:15 PM

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scandal? what are you doing here

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i thought you'd show up only if i talked about vehicles

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while we're here, why doesn't it

subtle compass May 28, 2026, 4:17 PM

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i dunno

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didn't look into it

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could be as simple as allowDroppingItems is set to false

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or something deeper

mellow umbra May 28, 2026, 4:32 PM

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subtle compass could be as simple as allowDroppingItems is set to false

ain't

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it's meant to be able to carry items on it

slate venture May 29, 2026, 9:52 AM

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Could you remove easter eggs, gift boxes and homemade flashbangs from scan command when they are used?

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:58 AM

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does bf not already do that?

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with scanimprovements

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it is intended to, at least

trim breach May 29, 2026, 10:46 AM

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trim breach does bf not already do that?

okay i was under the impression i had already implemented this

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but that actually appears to just be totally wrong

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loll

slate venture May 29, 2026, 10:49 AM

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For some reason, general improvements do this but only with scrap left monitor

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Scrap left

trim breach May 29, 2026, 11:28 AM

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trim breach okay i was under the impression i had already implemented this

i seriously feel like i already accounted for this "at some point" but i guess i removed it at some point or something

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in any case it should be handled in the next version

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when that releases

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how do people feel about me changing cause-of-death

trim breach May 29, 2026, 11:35 AM

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trim breach how do people feel about me changing cause-of-death

#1486746820787965952 message

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a bunch of cause-of-death calls are just wrong in vanilla

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changing them would be pretty easy

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though the problem is all of these are clientside

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 11:36 AM

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if you really think people would disagree with those changes then you can make it a config option

trim breach May 29, 2026, 11:36 AM

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so if someone is using butteryfixes in a public lobby and dies to a giant

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they would display crushing as their cause of death even for vanilla clients

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 11:37 AM

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and that makes coherent sense

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;p

trim breach May 29, 2026, 11:37 AM

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well it does but i just havent touched it before because i figured people would find that to be a downside

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i guess

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 11:38 AM

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i don't see it as a downside

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"gravity" when a giant falls on you is nonsensical

slate venture May 29, 2026, 11:47 AM

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trim breach a bunch of cause-of-death calls are just wrong in vanilla

It would be a cool change.

cursive otter May 29, 2026, 1:53 PM

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trim breach how do people feel about me changing cause-of-death

this would be awesome and i would love that

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how are you planning to change the knife cause of death?

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 2:12 PM

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cursive otter how are you planning to change the knife cause of death?

stabbing, no?

cursive otter May 29, 2026, 2:13 PM

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i meant more the coding it in part

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 2:13 PM

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ah

hearty shale May 29, 2026, 3:26 PM

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trim breach they would display crushing as their cause of death even for vanilla clients

Maybe an “on by default” toggle?

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 7:41 PM

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slate venture Could you remove easter eggs, gift boxes and homemade flashbangs from scan comma...

oh i never considered this

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makes sense

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:45 PM

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hearty shale Maybe an “on by default” toggle?

this was my first plan but i wound up not doing it

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i realized i'd have to fix the jetpack cause-of-death in jetpack fixes instead of butteryfixes

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(unless i wanted to patch jetpack fixes with buttery fixes, which sounds horrible)

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and i thought it'd be clunky to have cause-of-death being changed by two separate configs in two separate mods

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on top of this having "fairly minimal impact" it also fixes a lot of stuff with sound effects

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i.e. lethal company uses this sound effect whenever somebody dies to Crushing

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:49 PM

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i use this exact sound for the haulers sunroof snipper

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yoiled

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:49 PM

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trim breach i.e. lethal company uses this sound effect whenever somebody dies to Crushing

but basically the only two ways you can hear this SFX in vanilla are:

dying to a spike trap (which plays its own loud slam SFX)
getting run over by the cruiser, fast enough to kill

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now you can hear this sound effect:

when a giant falls over on top of you
when the ship lands on you
when the item dropship lands on you

all of which used to be gravity, and used to play this sound instead

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it just feels way more fitting this way

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i actually debated putting this in enemy sound fixes for that reason

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but i already wrote all the code to put it in BF and enemysoundfixes tries to be pretty minimal about sound fixes which actually change visuals/gameplay

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(not to say there aren't a few examples where that's the case)

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:52 PM

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trim breach now you can hear this sound effect: 1. when a giant falls over on top of you 2. ...

extension ladders also have a sound effect for bonking players which overlaps with the fall damage death sound

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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trim breach but basically the only two ways you can hear this SFX in vanilla are: 1. dying t...

Yeah i've only ever heard it clearly w the cruiser lol

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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trim breach now you can hear this sound effect: 1. when a giant falls over on top of you 2. ...

Oh I didn't know giants falling over actually killed you??? that's so fucking cool, since when??

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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and i guess it's "more up to interpretation" if that is the intent but making the ladder a different cause of death makes the unique kill sound more audible and special

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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jolly raven Oh I didn't know giants falling over actually killed you??? that's so fucking co...

since v50

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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what the fuck LOL

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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they can even kill you through the cruiser isn't that fun!!!

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 9:53 PM

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that's super niche ig that's why I never saw it, love this fucking game holy shit

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 9:54 PM

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subtle compass they can even kill you through the cruiser isn't that fun!!!

they should explode the cruiser if they fall on top

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yoiled

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:54 PM

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i thought about this

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but is too mean

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 9:54 PM

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LOL yeah

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:54 PM

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trim breach and i guess it's "more up to interpretation" if that is the intent but making th...

cookie suggested "Bludgeoning" and after some consideration i decided that was the best fit as well

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:54 PM

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i did add protection against it for my v55 car and scanvan

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but you have to be in the back for v55, and either in the back or in the cab for scanvan

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:54 PM

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which means there is now another source of bludgeoning that is not "another player melee'd you to death" although i guess it's sort of funny it wound up being another scenario caused by players

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anyways

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there's also baboon hawks dealing "Unknown" damage which is straight up just because zeekerss forgot to specify a damage type for the baboons

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:55 PM

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i think ghost girl popping your head should be "Unknown"

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yoiled

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adds the mystique of your head randomly popping off in front of your crew

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:56 PM

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i assume he would have made them Mauling when they were originally added, but I decided to use Stabbing (only been in the game since v50) instead

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since their kill animation shows them skewering the player's corpse on their "beak"

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:56 PM

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subtle compass i think ghost girl popping your head should be "Unknown"

yeah ghost girl wont change

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i feel like "Unknown" is by design with her

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and if it's not it's still cool

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anyways im not sure whether to push this update or wait

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but i have patched over all the nonsense i posted in that thread above

slate venture May 29, 2026, 9:57 PM

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and is earth leviathan unknown too?

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:57 PM

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trim breach yeah ghost girl wont change

oh wait ghost girl is already unknown

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i didn't realise

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:57 PM

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slate venture and is earth leviathan unknown too?

i think technically yes?

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:57 PM

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i thought it was something else

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:57 PM

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you can't see that without a mod to show cause-of-death on the spectate screen

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since earth leviathans leave behind no body

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i feel like "unknown" is fine for such a case

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:58 PM

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changing the cause of death when there isn't even a body left behind doesn't even matter

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and i don't think you should get hung up on it

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:58 PM

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giants use "Crushing" when they eat players but you can also hear them audibly chewing on you

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:58 PM

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only the ones that actually leave something behind

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:58 PM

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earth leviathans just kind of snatch you up and you're gone

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who knows what happens

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 9:59 PM

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vaporised

trim breach May 29, 2026, 9:59 PM

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jolly raven Oh I didn't know giants falling over actually killed you??? that's so fucking co...

anyways yeah like scandal said this has been a thing since v50

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when giants were made killable in the first place

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 10:00 PM

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i think giants falling over on you and killing you is most common when using car to kill a giant

trim breach May 29, 2026, 10:00 PM

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they're actually able to kill you through the ship this way which i patched in this mod because it feels not intentional

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 10:00 PM

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thats when ive had it happen most

trim breach May 29, 2026, 10:00 PM

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but yeah like scandal said it's most likely to occur when you ram into them with the car

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i've had it happen once or twice which isn't a lot but it definitely makes killing them more of a nailbiter

subtle compass May 29, 2026, 10:01 PM

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i like the brick on the gas approach and quickly bailing from the car

trim breach May 29, 2026, 10:01 PM

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you have to be behind them at the point which their kill animation shows their body landing on the ground

trim breach May 29, 2026, 10:01 PM

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trim breach you have to be behind them at the point which their kill animation shows their b...

(ESF plays this sound effect at the same time, which seems to be the intent in vanilla but zeekerss forgot to add it...)

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but the kill does happen in vanilla and with it playing the fall damage SFX and no other audio

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it's very confusing

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lol

jolly raven May 29, 2026, 10:06 PM

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trim breach anyways yeah like scandal said this has been a thing since v50

thank you for this information

hearty shale May 30, 2026, 12:59 AM

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trim breach i.e. lethal company uses this sound effect whenever somebody dies to Crushing

https://youtu.be/P2QVfKMI96s?si=X0lwjhkDLt3AgkI7

YouTube

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Lancer Splat Sound Effect (Deltarune)

▶ Play video

hearty shale May 30, 2026, 1:00 AM

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trim breach extension ladders also have a sound effect for bonking players which overlaps wi...

I love this one so much

slate venture May 30, 2026, 9:26 AM

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[Error :Buttery Fixes] Kill trigger transpiler failed

trim breach May 30, 2026, 5:17 PM

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slate venture ```[Error :Buttery Fixes] Kill trigger transpiler failed```

my guess is something else patched what im trying to patch

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but idk what mod would be doing that

slate venture May 30, 2026, 5:26 PM

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I tested in a profile with only butteryfixes and logs this error too

trim breach May 30, 2026, 5:27 PM

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ok then maybe im just stupid

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in any case this error is probably harmless

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i dont think this patch even changes anything in vanilla

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i fixed it "on principle" just in case custom content uses it

slate venture May 30, 2026, 5:29 PM

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yes, no problems here.

trim breach May 30, 2026, 5:29 PM

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this is the patch for KillLocalPlayer.justDamage ignoring KillLocalPlayer.causeOfDeath and always dealing "Unknown" type damage

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i dont think any of these triggers in vanilla set that flag

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all of them are instakills

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okay yeah

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there's no way this transpiler would have worked

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i was checking the wrong opcode and i was forgetting to modify an opcode somewhere

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i got so caught up in "everything else works" that i totally overlooked checking if this worked

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Lol

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i found out yesterday that my kitchen knife bludgeoning patch doesnt work either

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so im gonna have to look into that

slate venture Jun 1, 2026, 9:34 PM

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Is the ghost girl in the camera not a bug?

unborn geyser Jun 1, 2026, 9:36 PM

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ghost girl showing up in the ship cameras?

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thats vanilla

slate venture Jun 1, 2026, 9:37 PM

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Is intended?

unborn geyser Jun 1, 2026, 9:37 PM

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yeah i think so

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is the only way for other people to see the girl when is hunting someone

slate venture Jun 1, 2026, 9:38 PM

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Its weird seeing her doing the walking animation standing still.

unborn geyser Jun 1, 2026, 9:38 PM

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i also use it to know when she is looking at me from outside

subtle compass Jun 1, 2026, 9:38 PM

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doesn't mean it's not an oversight

unborn geyser Jun 1, 2026, 9:38 PM

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so i know not to look outside hehe

subtle compass Jun 1, 2026, 9:39 PM

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if the intent is "you're meant to sound and look like a crazed lunatic to your coworkers" then only having ghost girl show up on the camera for the haunted player makes so much more sense

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having it show up for everyone feels a bit awkward and like an oversight

unborn geyser Jun 1, 2026, 9:39 PM

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maybe

slate venture Jun 1, 2026, 9:40 PM

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slate venture Its weird seeing her doing the walking animation standing still.

that's why I think isn't intended.

subtle compass Jun 1, 2026, 9:40 PM

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because it'd be really funny to furiously point at the camera while screaming "SHES RIGHT THERE!!!" and your coworkers genuinely just think you're delusional or trolling because they don't see anything

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that feels "much more intended"

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imo

subtle compass Jun 1, 2026, 9:41 PM

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subtle compass because it'd be really funny to furiously point at the camera while screaming "S...

and then this is usually followed up by animalistic screaming and aerobatics as you jump to try and avoid the girl and then your head just fucking explodes right in front of them

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that's a "very lethal company moment"

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i think having the ghost girl only render for the haunted player in the ship camera would be a pretty neat (and niche) thing to have as an option or something (i wouldn't mind it forced on but i know people can get up in arms about tiny stuff)

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and whether it's a "fix" is up for debate i guess

slate venture Jun 1, 2026, 9:51 PM

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Probably it is unintended when she disappears, the camera still renders her. That's why she stay still doing the walking animation.

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With imperium you can see her after disappears and she does the same thing.

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trim breach Jun 1, 2026, 10:37 PM

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@slate venture @unborn geyser i think it is unintended but i haven't really patched it because it's "sort of cool" how it works out

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the reason it happens is because enemies have 2 different layers:

Enemies
EnemiesNotRendered

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the latter is not visible to players but is visible to the ship's camera

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it's used to hide enemies like dogs/giants/old birds/etc. when the ship doors are closed

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so they don't bleed through the walls or doors

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but for them to still be visible when watching the camera

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ghost girl reuses that layer which means she is always visible on the ship cameras

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even if you are not personally haunted

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and even if ghost girl is invisible to you while you are haunted

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i dont think zeekerss ever intended for this behavior to be the case but it just wound up that way anyway

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especially because her facing direction and animation does not adjust while she is invisible

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so you will just see her skipping and doing nothing

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this is the same bug that causes cadaver blooms to be really fucking buggy

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which are what these fixes are for

v1.17.6

Fixed some specific circumstances which could allow Cadaver Blooms to reappear (visually) after death

v1.17.3

Cadavers

Fixed Cadaver Blooms suddenly blocking movement after death

Fixed Cadaver Blooms displaying their radar visuals on bodycams after death

unborn geyser Jun 1, 2026, 10:44 PM

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haii buttery!!! i do feel the looking through camera is cool, but the walking animation through camera does feel like a bug tbh

slate venture Jun 1, 2026, 10:46 PM

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slate venture

the second clip looks like she knows where the camera is pointing and uses that to disappear

hearty shale Jun 1, 2026, 11:48 PM

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Honestly, it very well may be “This was unintentional, but I decided to keep it in as a feature” thing

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Does she appear in the player cams too? Or only the ship cams

hearty shale Jun 1, 2026, 11:55 PM

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trim breach especially because her facing direction and animation does not adjust while she ...

Yeah, I feel if it was intentionally implemented/finalized the animation would stop, or some kind of mechanic would be introduced. My guess has always been that since the skipping animation isn’t super noticable on the ship cam (and it’s such a minor thing), Zeekerss just hasn’t bothered to fix (adjust?) it

slate venture Jun 2, 2026, 9:36 AM

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trim breach the reason it happens is because enemies have 2 different layers: 1. `Enemies` 2...

So if she uses the first one will be fixed?

trim breach Jun 2, 2026, 3:10 PM

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slate venture So if she uses the first one will be fixed?

the fix is to disable her renderer completely instead of using the second layer

slate venture Jun 2, 2026, 4:12 PM

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trim breach the fix is to disable her renderer completely instead of using the second layer

So not even the target player will be able to see her.

trim breach Jun 2, 2026, 4:57 PM

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slate venture So not even the target player will be able to see her.

well ghost girl's visibility is all handled clientside

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you could define whatever arbitrary set of rules you want for how she should be visible

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and apply them individually to all players

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i will probably look into adjusting this but im not sure what i will wind up doing

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probably the most authentic behavior would be "let all players see her on the cameras" while also "fixing her animation and rotation after she disappears"

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but i think you can make a serious argument that this is just a bug zeekerss never fixed

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