Buttery Fixes

[radiant nymph]

Once he stops feeling burn out

[stark mantle]

yeah that's something i wanted to add b4

[radiant nymph]

Can you add it in the upcoming update that adds support for the new enemy?

You're also gonna be including the voice fix in that version so I don't see why not

[stark mantle]

uh that one would probably require a bit of digging to figure out so probably not

i'd have to look at it another time

[radiant nymph]

I mean Buttery said it's be simple to include

So just ask them what you need to add

[stark mantle]

oh i just saw this

yeah if i find it in the source code i'll add that

[fleet lintel]

https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements/blob/4d5175aded1e993b66d8b03736d87619bf5c0791/Patches/MaskedPlayerEnemyPatch.cs#L73

here's how GeneralImprovements does it

[trim breach]

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(MaskedPlayerEnemy), nameof(MaskedPlayerEnemy.KillEnemy))]
[HarmonyPostfix]
static void MaskedPlayerEnemyPostKillEnemy(MaskedPlayerEnemy __instance, bool destroy)
{
    if (destroy)
        return;

    Animator mapDot = __instance.transform.Find("Misc/MapDot")?.GetComponent<Animator>();
    if (mapDot != null)
    {
        mapDot.enabled = false;
        Plugin.Logger.LogInfo("Stop animating masked radar dot");
    }
}

this is what i do

you could just put this in Start() and remove the destroy parameter stuff

oh lmfao

the generalimprovements code is literally identical

anyways yeah

it'd be a singleliner if you don't include the null check for safety

or any logging

very simple

[radiant nymph]

@stark mantle

[stark mantle]

ah nice thanks 😄

[trim breach]

this works like a charm, on an unrelated note

also v1.8.1 is going out

[smoky current]

[lilac adder]

buttery the goat

🥞

[trim breach]

for the folks in zeekcord

https://discord.com/channels/750645598293590077/1277841390289686528

wondering if i could squeeze in a fix for this

unless 1a3 plans to do it for lethalfixes

[lilac adder]

"stupidmaskedfixes"

[hollow fable]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-magic-monkey-gif-5218627

literally the masked

[jolly raven]

what dat say I can't see :3

[candid pivot]

masked enemies cannot exit or enter the facility

[trim breach]

zeekerss added code to the masked to let them use the elevators in the mineshaft

but because of where he placed it, masked are unable to leave factories or manors anymore

[lilac adder]

and they cant go outside

[trim breach]

only mineshafts

[lilac adder]

so is it basically a nerf

[jolly raven]

oh thats funny

[lilac adder]

[jolly raven]

a fix for that would be goated

[fathom peak]

The masked using the elevator already got me good, ngl.

[lilac adder]

will it be a seperate mod or put into butteryfixes

[trim breach]

i feel bad lumping that into butteryfixes 🥹

with all the other bullshit

it's such a major issue and so specific that i'm wondering if should just make a separate mod for it

[lilac adder]

dumdumfixes

thats the mod name

[trim breach]

maybe i can make mimicfixes or smth

move all the bunny/bee suit and badge shit

and justify it like that

[lilac adder]

if you do, pls also fix masked reducting nighttime power level

[fathom peak]

Buttery fixcakes

[trim breach]

that's already fixed in this mod actually!

[lilac adder]

oh W

[trim breach]

but i would move it to the masked mod if i split it off yeah

[lilac adder]

this made me have 3 dogs and a giant on titan

I like adding buttery's mods to modpacks i make lol

especially the Christmas dropship

thank you for serving us these mods :)

[hollow fable]

you can take the opportunity and do a feature where maskeds don't spin on radar = )

[trim breach]

maybe

i certainly feel better adding bonuses like that when it's not bloating a massive config file

😝

[candid pivot]

there are mods that already do that (I don't remember what mod)

[trim breach]

general improvements is the only one im aware of

[hollow fable]

GI

[trim breach]

but it might be added to mirage soon-ish(?)

[hollow fable]

i don't seem any problem having more than one mod that does that

you can just set it false in the cfg

[trim breach]

i wrote my code to be super safe

[jolly raven]

maskedfixes timeee

[trim breach]

so i can't imagine it is introducing too many incompatibilities

[trim breach]

specifically the masked animation thing

all of my transpilers are absolutely disgusting

💞

[hollow fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-award-walking-meme-ceremony-gif-3879624934865009419

another fix mod

[lilac adder]

next fix mod is spiderfixes (spiders dont nest on thin air)

[fathom peak]

The air is their home & you’re trying to take that away. For shame.

[hollow fable]

Lasso man fix when

[lilac adder]

your pfp tricked me gg

[fathom peak]

Gotcha

[ionic lion]

bro isn't in the official server💀

[jolly raven]

yeah

i've got enough servers on my left tray lmao

[ionic lion]

i didn't regret making a new account because of that

[hollow fable]

the dream is over

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-cry-gif-27179062

[trim breach]

lol yeah i asked if 1a3 was going to pick it up

and he decided to

[feral roost]

lethal intelligence does this too iirc

[brazen vapor]

good to know that it still have that feature from the ol' MaskedAIRevamp

[trim breach]

in next version i might start altering the map tiles

i dont want to make too many alterations and the end result needs to be host only or client side exclusive

so im not 100% on what im able to accomplish

but i think navmesh alterations are ok

and i can fix that table collider in the kitchen

[hollow fable]

THINK

[trim breach]

still probably a no on this but maybe we'll see

[thorn breach]

lol thje kitchen textures are tilted in an ass way but i dont think thats fixable

[fathom peak]

Who doesnt love the kitchen smear.

[solid dagger]

I imagine the tile tweaks will be toggle-able?

I don't think anybody has made a "new tiles for vanilla interiors" mod yet

But it might happen.

[summer falcon]

and mine, LethalIntelligence, which basically took it on from MaskedAIRevamp, which is where GeneralImprovements got it from (i think)

if you do fix the masked leaving the interior, can you @ me when you do so i can look at the code, i already fixed it in LethalIntelligence, but frankly, i dont want a fix to break my fix, and i do use your buttery fixes ❤️

oh wait, 1a3 already fixed it xD nvm xD

[trim breach]

1a3 fixed it in lethalfixes 1.2.0

he used a postfix

it's open source if you want to take a look

[summer falcon]

yeah, i will 🙂 thanks

[daring steeple]

mhm?

[trim breach]

that was kind of a gut feeling thing

since only one client processes AI movement for individual enemies

and the host is responsible for spawning almost anything that samples the navmesh

but on second thought it looks like the inverse teleporter samples navmesh on all clients using seeded random

so that might be a bust after all

[daring steeple]

setdestination on a client is gonna complain if its being told to go somewhere with a invalid bake

for example

[trim breach]

kind of frustrating since there's like

a huge navmesh bug with the mineshaft i'd like to fix

but i think it's just not going to work out

sigh

i can at least fix the coffee tables in the manor though

small victories

[lilac adder]

navmesh navmesh

[gilded lintel]

possible buttery fix? for when you load a save with 0 days left, ship speaker tells you to fly to the company building to sell, you fly to company, sell and make quota, take off, when in orbit and you get given the next quota, the speaker tells you to fly to the company building and sell

[trim breach]

i will take a look

[small lichen]

Do you have quota Rollover? Had this happen with that

[trim breach]

i think i might address some forest keeper behaviors in the next update

at the very least im definitely going to clamp the sight timers since zeekerss does it incorrectly in the vanilla code

meaning that if your friend gets chased by a forest giant, it can cause the forest giant's "sight memory" of you to go into the negatives and then it takes forever to actually see you

or vice versa

if you get chaed by a giant for several seconds it causes the sight to go far above the "max" value

meaning that even if your friends try to distract it it'll still instantly spot you in the future

[small lichen]

Omg yes please!!!!

It's so annoying 😆

[trim breach]

the other thing i'm sort of interested in fixing

is making them forget about players after they get out of line of sight

the way that vanilla works, giants only forget about players when there are other players in its vision

and that doesn't seem to be intentional

but that change is a little more subjective and also has a pretty huge effect on the gameplay surrounding giants

so that might need to be a config setting

or it might be worth just leaving that out and letting people use FairGiants for that

[summer falcon]

yeah quota rollover sometimes bugs out somehow and either changes days, or suddenly fires you, or something, very rare though, i think its desync tbh

[solid dagger]

I would leave the forgetting fix out personally, it does pretty massively change giant gameplay and that's what FairGiants is for regardless

[gilded lintel]

Nah, I dont have anything that touches quota

[hollow fable]

Shouldn't the landmine explode if a item above it gets taken?

it doesn't have nothing to do with buttery fixes actually, but i wanted to figure it out if this is vanilla behavior

because i remember playing a long time ago and the landmine exploding if someone took a item above it

it even does a "beep" sound

isn't this buttery?

[thorn breach]

egg works fine because it slides and probably triggers an enter and an exit, picking up items might not be triggering an exit

[hollow fable]

i noticed that, if the ball or stun grenade or easter egg gets thrown the landmine activates

but i think it should trigger if you took a item above it too

could be implemented as a optional feature

[trim breach]

this is vanilla behavior

landmines trigger when something presses them down and then gets off

including players or items

stun grenades, easter eggs, soccer balls, the maneater, and all melee weapons are able to collide with the trigger and then move off of them

additionally easter eggs can explode which chain reacts all nearby landmines

[candid pivot]

I think he means that the mine is not exploding when picking up the scrap above the mine

[trim breach]

picking up items skips the trigger as mentioned here

i might fix this but TBH i doubt anybody would actually want to use this feature lol

[candid pivot]

I'd do :]

[ionic lion]

me too

[trim breach]

oh yeah nutcrackers can trigger landmines if they are elevated

and brackens/spiders can drag player bodies

anyways if there is actual demand

i will look into it

[fleet lintel]

i'd use it. i swear that's how it used to work anyway

[trim breach]

i do worry a bit that there isn't a way to do it that wont cause lag (i.e. if grabbing an item has to search for every landmine on the map that could be quite heavy)

[trim breach]

in v45 there was a bug where landmines triggered immediately when pressed down

so that might be what you are remembering

[fleet lintel]

hmmmmm maybe

i think i have a clip of it somewhere

[trim breach]

i will say, the current behavior can be a little awkward

if you throw a stun grenade on a landmine and it lands perfectly

the landmine will make the sound of being pressed down, but wont detonate and you can pick the grenade back up

and throw it again

lol

[somber hearth]

wait killable old birds config option was outright removed!?

[trim breach]

yes because zeekerss fixed the cruiser killing old birds in v60

so now i dont have to patch anything

[somber hearth]

I mean I tried to run over one last night

didn't work, so

he just disabled it entirely?

and now they are deliberately invulnerable? is that his balance choice?

[abstract plaza]

I mean, logically how would running a truck into a giant mech disable it

[solid dagger]

It was a bug in the first place

I'm pretty sure it was just that the cruiser set anything it hit to dead rather than actually doing damage

same reason it could kill bees and other weird stuff like that

it was very clearly unintended for all of them

did the other enemies also get fixed? or did he only fix old birds because it was the most obvious

[gilded lintel]

Would you make it so we can disable it and it bypasses the code to check for landmines etc?

[daring steeple]

whats this about?

[trim breach]

fixed for everything but old birds are the most noticeable

[trim breach]

if i add this feature it would be a config setting because i dont think everyone will enjoy exploding if they have to grab an item off a landmine

[trim breach]

what do you mean

[daring steeple]

for some reason i couldn't see the context of that convo properly, sorry

at best you could just cache some data somewhere when an item enters a landmine trigger then check that data when something is picked up

but at worst if you cache the landmines once after dungeon load comparing positions and bounds on a item pickup is probably more than fine performance wise

[trim breach]

yeah caching it would probably be okay

i was also thinking i could just make items immediately detonate landmines

[daring steeple]

surely more intended if its when they get removed

[trim breach]

to avoid this awkward interaction

and reduce the amount of stuff needed to be implemented

like

imagine you bring a stun grenade in to defuse landmines then your first throw gets stuck on a mine

[daring steeple]

in general though good thing to fix because i desprately need to kill soccer balls into mines to kill my friends

[trim breach]

now you lose the grenade or you lose your life to get it back

Lol

[trim breach]

soccer balls already work

at least, they should... ive never seen it but ive heard from others it works

[daring steeple]

i tried it once and it didn't, maybe just weird collision

[trim breach]

and it would make sense since they can move without being picked up

[paper garden]

Nothing beats ol throw yourself on it then teleported

[hearty shale]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-teamwork-mine-gif-6708612813138901765

[trim breach]

[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] MediumRoomHallway1B: Removed obsolete triggers (fix spray paint)
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] DoubleDoorRoom: Removed obsolete triggers (fix spray paint)
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] KitchenTile: Adjusted collider on prop "coffeeTable"
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] KitchenTile: Adjusted collider on prop "coffeeTable (1)"

looks like my method of tile patching works out pretty ok

kinda put the update on the backburner again but i will try to have it out soon

i was playing with an outdated version of my mod with friends today and it was bugging me a bit

outdated in comparison to my test version anyway

[trim breach]

was toying around with this

i was testing this in butteryfixes but i think i would actually make this a separate mod

thinking maybe in the next update i'll remove FancyEntranceDoors and break it off into a separate mod with some other changes

like the screenshot above

[brazen vapor]

what am i looking at

[trim breach]

amethyst caverns

for embrion

[candid pivot]

ooh

[brazen vapor]

ohhh i see it now
thats actually interesting

why is it only embrion?

[trim breach]

because embrion is made of amethyst

[brazen vapor]

oh
i havent read LC lore in a while lol

[thorn breach]

have u BEEN to embrion

😂

[hearty shale]

Yoooooooo that’s cool

[brazen vapor]

i only see names 😂

[solid dagger]

Would it possibly be something we can apply to a moon ourselves? I have another amethyst moon in my pack.

[trim breach]

if i can implement it without lethallevelloader then possibly

initial release will probably just be vanilla moons

[trim breach]

holy shit yall

this is so cool

it has completely derailed the update process but i think i can get this out and update butteryfixes still by the end of today

would probably need to release both together, since im moving a few features out of butteryfixes into the new mod

[thorn breach]

[daring steeple]

Don't understand this response

(Looks very interesting.)

[trim breach]

i want to use this mod in my personal profile and i personally have no need for lethallevelloader

so any support would need to be implemented as a soft dependency

i try to keep my stuff light on hard dependencies

up to now i don't think any of my mods have hard dependencies

[daring steeple]

dunno man the tag system would be pretty goated for this

[trim breach]

maybe so

[daring steeple]

(eg. embrion is already tagged by default)

[trim breach]

i agree it would be nice for automatic compatibility, but it's still not necessary for core functionality, and modded moons are a use case i'm personally not designing for

i would like to provide some capability for it to function with modded moons but im designing mods for my own personal use first and foremost

so it's not a high priority

in the first place

but also im just not that interested in utilizing lethallevelloader because it doesn't have any features i need to use

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[daring steeple]

fair i guess

[trim breach]

i don't mean for this to come off as dismissive, to be clear

sorry if it did

[abstract plaza]

I'm wondering, is there any chance you'll change the caves of snowy moons to be more grey?

[trim breach]

i thought about it but i settled on ice caverns instead, for the time being

i'd like to add some more aesthetic options and let you specify a custom list of moons to use each on

but the first version will be a little more limited

it'll just automatically enable ice caverns on moons with snowy footsteps

and amethyst caverns on embrion

although you can killswitch both in the config, if you don't like one or the other

[radiant nymph]

I like this a lot

[solid dagger]

awesome

[abstract plaza]

I can get behind ice caverns

This does look really cool

[fleet lintel]

oh thats nice

[daring steeple]

Nah you good

Chuck me credit for inspo if you can and I’ll chuck you some pseudo code for lll soft dep support in a couple hours

Would be actually super convenient and simple for you to tap into

[hollow fable]

bro is literally cooking the hardest mod he could imagine 🔥 🔥 🔥

[daring steeple]

And lmk if you have any ideas for any features that could make a mod like this more viable to make and expans

[trim breach]

i'd just like for whatever LLL cross-compat stuff i implement to be relatively stable

so if you're planning on deprecating or re-implementing any features i might need to use, i will probably hold off so it's less likely to be broken by a LLL update

i suppose i could be fairly liberal with using try catch statements since this is ideally running only once per landing

i just dont want anybody to land on a moon and get softlocked by an exception because that super sucks

easiest way to kill the momentum of a session

[daring steeple]

Dw im very cautious of that

Only change lll has ever made to require other mods to change was the depreciation of some early functions that I hit the authors up in advance about and only did because I knew it was gucci

[trim breach]

i dont know what the ultimate scope of this project will be

right now it's pretty small and should be easy to maintain

and i'm usually available to update my stuff for compat if a game update or mod conflict breaks something

i'm just breaking it off into a separate release because it's leaving the scope of "bug fixes" or "consistency improvements" at this point

and that has sort of opened the door to give proper custom content compatibility more of a college effort

[daring steeple]

Yeee

[calm bobcat]

very cool

[hearty shale]

This is sick

[jolly raven]

waaait dude would this be a reskin of mineshaft with amethyst walls, super cool

👁️

[daring steeple]

would look something like this, tags list would be just a list of strings you config up

        public bool CompareLevelTags(SelectableLevel currentLevel, List<string> tags)
        {
            if (LethalLevelLoader.PatchedContent.TryGetExtendedContent(currentLevel, out ExtendedLevel extendedLevel))
                foreach (ContentTag levelTag in extendedLevel.ContentTags)
                    if (tags.Contains(levelTag.contentTagName))
                        return (true);
            return (false);
        }

easy to wrap up in a try catch if your really hesitant

[trim breach]

and just to be sure im understanding correctly

if i placed this in a function that only gets called if lethallevelloader is in the chainloader plugininfos

it wouldn't throw any errors about a missing assembly if a user doesn't have LLL installed?

i was under the impression you needed to use reflection to access other assemblies without making them a hard dependency

but that might just be a gap in my understanding

[daring steeple]

You might wanna double check with Robyn or someone else since my usage of soft dependencies is currently limited to patches that exist in a separate class but more or less yeah. Worst case based on how I've used them you could have a function like bool CheckLevel(SelectableLevel, InteriorReplacementType) and then actually patch that yourself conditionally but i don't think you need to do it like that

[daring steeple]

you also gotta mark lll as a soft dep on your plugin class

[trim breach]

yeah im used to doing that

just being honest i have spent long enough working on this

and i still need to finish bf 1.9 to release alongside it

that this is not going to be in the first release

but this does look a fair bit simpler to implement than i was expecting

i need to figure out how i'm going to lay out the config file

[daring steeple]

No that's fair, Not priority but just pitching it for the long term since I'm pretty happy with how streamlined the process is on my end and i think it's a cool way to use tags

I just really like tags as a concept for cross mod compat

[trim breach]

the only immediately notable weakness in this system is embrion

at least the only thing i notice

"Rocky" doesn't strictly imply "made of amethyst"

[daring steeple]

I'm happy to add another tag if you have a nice suggestion 😄

[trim breach]

so depending on if there are any rocky custom moons that aren't amethyst textured, there might need to be something else in place

[trim breach]

i suppose worst case i can add a generic rocky (the gray rocks mentioned here) type cavern

oops i didnt mean to ping sorry

[trim breach]

anyways, and then i could have a list of moon names to override with the amethyst variant

but i dunno

seems like it sorta defeats the point

[daring steeple]

Right now my vanilla content tags don't come with Color values but the contentags themselves support it. In theory you could even utilise that keypair'd colour to tint the custom dungeon textures to your liking

overscope for now though ofc

[abstract plaza]

Nah it's fine dw

[daring steeple]

rn their just basically a <string, Color> keypairvalue but in the future / if I had to remake the system i would make it a lot more generic so people could optionally provide content for other mods

[abstract plaza]

I think both ice caves or grey caves for snowy moons work

[trim breach]

yeah i think grey caves could be a nice aesthetic

i want it to be available as an option somehow but im really digging the ice for snow moons

[abstract plaza]

I'd only suggested standard grey caves at first since it'd be weird there would be snow deep down in a cave system, but then again it could also just be extremely cold down there.

[daring steeple]

I mentioned this in my initial suggestion for this kinda feature but it would be so sick if the metal texture in facility got tinted based on environment

[trim breach]

yeah im not sure how i will tackle that

mineshafts are super easy because you can just change the texture to match the aesthetic of the terrain

[daring steeple]

shouldn't be hard, materials are all referenced based

[trim breach]

factory and manor will require some more creativity

and idk what will look good and make sense to implement for those

i have implemented a change for factory that i think looks nice

although it's not a very major one

and there is of course the exterior manor doors

but the mineshaft is really the focus of the first release

[daring steeple]

not moon/theme specific but swapping the pink and green drywall colours in the mansion with a more expanded but just solid colour palette would help a lot imo

[trim breach]

lol yeah

i dont think there is a ton to do with making the manor match its environment TBH

something i was thinking about is adding blizzard audio

that's super muffled but plays the entire time you're inside on rend and dine

but the manor is going to feel crazy and out of place on like, 9 of the 13 vanilla moons

or is that 8 of 12

i think 13 is including gordion

[abstract plaza]

I think it'd be neat if manors generated with random wall colors instead of them all being pink.

[trim breach]

for sure

i think it's the only way it will have any sort of flavor

because there's barely anything to be done about making it match the planet

[abstract plaza]

I think manors outside of Rend, Dine, and Artifice are mainly meant to be anomalous.

[calm bobcat]

in certain rooms I believe its green or beige,

[abstract plaza]

yeah but I meant just generally changing the palette they could be randomly

[trim breach]

it would take a little creativity to make individual rooms have different palettess

that still fit together somewhat cohesively

[calm bobcat]

I knew what you meant I was more so saying that if the walls were changed those textures already exist

[hollow fable]

if you want you could place some snow near the manor entrance on snowy moons, just that extra detail

[trim breach]

maybe it would be simpler to just make the entire manor switch colors on different days

[abstract plaza]

I ain't suggesting goin that far, I mean on a whole level basis.

[trim breach]

yeah

[daring steeple]

@trim breach gimmie a colour for embirion

[trim breach]

it's definitely more approachable from a dev perspective at least

uh well

[calm bobcat]

don't you already track in snow via the footprint thing?

[trim breach]

this is the embrion amethyst tex

hex code sample is #2B2431

[daring steeple]

ty

wanna pick one for snow aswell

this isn't a commitment for using them im just doing it and your gonna care more about the default than me rn

[hollow fable]

we need more snow

https://tenor.com/view/cat-snow-door-meme-gif-11618568403160844397

[trim breach]

there are snowy footprints in the ice caves...

🙂

[trim breach]

snow is basically just straight white

i added a slight blue tint to it for the ice caves but the actual surface is plain white

[calm bobcat]

a factory one could possibly have the maze walls recolored to this more orangeish hue

[trim breach]

maybe not a terrible idea

just have a couple fairly generic neutral brick colors

and change the maze tile's colors each day

[calm bobcat]

also for this interior stuff I hope that in the config one of the options would be level filters

[fleet lintel]

do you have a name in mind? i was thinkin something like Camouflage or Chameleon since it's about changing the game's visuals to reflect the environment

[trim breach]

i was going to call it "interiordesigner"

but to be honest i wasn't feeling too big on the name

i was worried it might give off "Use this mod to design interiors" impressions

and it technically affects exteriors too so it's not even that sensible to begin with

[trim breach]

i do like these suggestions

not sure if anybody else has input

personally im quite partial to "chameleon"

of the two

[calm bobcat]

chameleon sounds good

[trim breach]

do you have any objections to me nabbing chameleon

[fleet lintel]

go ahead lol

[trim breach]

sweet

i think at this point both mods are ready

i am kind of worried some horrible issue will rear its ugly head the moment they are out in the wild

but it needs to go out

or it'll never be available

[trim breach]

aaand... deep breath.

they are out

here is hoping for the best

yeesh, the icon looks hideous on thunderstore. i will probably give it some more care before the next release

[radiant nymph]

@trim breach Maybe this coule be an option for you to add more so than Taffyko, but maybe an option that prevents spraying the ship that's compatible with BetterSprayPaint could be added for people like me with bad OCD? 🥺

[trim breach]

it's probably more in taffyko's wheelhouse since it's not a bugfix

but maybe

it irks me a bit too, because i'm not fun

😝

[radiant nymph]

Hehe

[worldly briar]

Will chameleon give me cheese caves for #1211235399112986705 ?

[trim breach]

lol. wouldnt that be something

[radiant nymph]

That would save Nikki having to do it actually

Lol

[trim breach]

custom themes for specific modded moons is a can i'm going to kick way down the road

but it's not off the table

[radiant nymph]

But I think Nikki is already working on it

[trim breach]

i'd like to do a little more with auto-compat and customization for the existing options first

[radiant nymph]

Yeee

[worldly briar]

Man I came running in hopes lmao

[daring steeple]

sorry for nabbing this name aha

Interior Remodeling maybe? idk

[worldly briar]

"immersive interior"

[daring steeple]

@trim breach if your widedoorframeclone is spawning in the moon scene you don't need to destroy it, no?

also you should be able to grab that kind of fancy door at runtime? or is your one different in ways

[trim breach]

the way im spawning it in is kind of outdated

i used to spawn it before the dungeon finished generating IIRC so i couldn't pull it in realtime

although i might be getting my thoughts muddled

[daring steeple]

naur

[trim breach]

it was being instantiated in the root scene and persisting between days, so I had to add code to manually destroy it

[daring steeple]

you should be able to pull the door as early as main menu cuz it should be somewhere in the networkprefab list

[trim breach]

oh im personally unfamiliar

[daring steeple]

ya anything in scene you can't do, anything prefab based like dungeons you can

[trim breach]

i see

there's some other code in this that's a little hacky and "just works"

and will be improved on in the future

so i will put spawning the doors on that list as well

[daring steeple]

rn your spawning it in moon scene, no?
wideDoorFrameClone = Object.Instantiate(wideDoorFrame, pos, rot,RoundManager.Instance?.mapPropsContainer?.transform).transform;

ya nitpicking so your aware, no implication on when/if you gotta act on this

On the topic of the interior stuff and prefab stuff

[trim breach]

RoundManager.Instance?.mapPropsContainer?.transform

at least at some point in the past

this would return null and it would be instantiated in the root of SampleSceneRelay

it's possible some of the refactoring i've already done makes that no longer the case

i haven't actually checked to be sure

if the code works as intended, then yeah, it wouldn't need to be manually destroyed

[daring steeple]

if your careful with rolling your changes back you can actually apply these before the dungeon generates onto the prefab assets themselves, let the dungeon generate and revert the changes back instead of having to apply them every time. this would let you find and cache references to stuff once rather than per generation

[trim breach]

because mapPropsContainer is part of the moon scene that gets loaded, and it would be auto-unloaded

[trim breach]

that's true

it would be a pretty major rework and i think it does make a few bold assumptions

most importantly the assumption that nobody else is touching the tile prefabs

or at least unlikely to change anything that i want to change myself

there's a lot of repeated work but i wasn't too worried about it since it only happens once per landing

and i think it's a lot less prone to run into some sort of gamebreaking problem

[daring steeple]

The only real pro in that argument is the fact your guaranteed to have higher order of execution compared to anyone doing it the way i suggested which I don't know is inherently always a good thing. In regards to gamebreaking problems due to two mods touching something at once I don't know how this actually would prevent that from happening

[trim breach]

i guess the idea is just that my code has a ton of null checks and would be running after instantiation

meanwhile if im adjusting tile prefabs, and other mods aren't using quite as safe code, it could cause exceptions

[trim breach]

but this kinda makes the assumption that my post-instantiation processing is running last anyway

so it's all a wash anyway

i suppose

[daring steeple]

again dont wanna come off as dunking on this or anything I'm very glad something like this is out and i know it's initial implementation

just has been on my mind before

[trim breach]

well im not upset by it

i do worry a little bit about living up to expectations

i want it to be moderately usable and flexible

but i'm still mostly used to making small scale stuff and sticking to relatively light mod profiles

so it's hard to plan for a lot of use cases more heavily modded players will have

[daring steeple]

Peoples wants are cool but peoples expectations are useless, don't need to live up to anything

[calm bobcat]

very cool

[calm bobcat]

the mod is actually so good

[gilded lintel]

What bugs did March have when landing on a previous moon? Also Chameleon looks awesome!

[daring steeple]

people might get wrong idea with this tho since its visual only

[trim breach]

alas, thunderstore does not let you rename mods

but that's fine because i like chameleon anyway

[trim breach]

march didn't reset the "current interior" value used by some of the game's systems

since it uses a unique interior

so if you landed on march after landing on a mineshaft moon the previous day

march would get the +6 scrap bonus even though it was factory

it would also cause march's factory doors to be haunted if you visited a manor the previous day

and whatever ambience was being used on the last moon you landed would be used on march

so if you went from experimentation to march it would use the desert level ambience

if you went from a mineshaft moon to march it would use the mineshaft variant of the previous level's ambience

etc.

just a lot of residual weirdness like that

[gilded lintel]

gotcha! thanks

[lofty badge]

For the upcoming v64 update, would it be possible to add an option to keys if designated as scrap where they will still be allowed in the fanny pack?

[trim breach]

mmmaybe

i'm not going to implement that until v64 is out of beta though

it'll require a transpiler

on the belt bag's code

it should be straightforward though

[fathom peak]

#spoiler-chat message

Unless i’m misunderstanding your request, they do work in the fanny pack

[lofty badge]

It's a feature of Buttery's fix mod. You can fix the keys to where they actually count as their $3 scrap.

[fathom peak]

Ahhh i forgot about that, I dont use it myself. But now I get it.

[lofty badge]

Yeah, I still need to find a way to make it work with modded teleporters like in GI.

But that's different from the game update, figure I just need to peruse Thunderstore for that fix.

[radiant nymph]

@trim breach Limiting spawn levels is broken

[trim breach]

oh yeah

it patches spawnweedenemies

probably

zeekerss removed it

[radiant nymph]

Missing field exception

Yeah

[trim breach]

oh no it doesnt

wait so why is it broken

let me see

i think starlanceraifix is throwing your error

[radiant nymph]

Wait really?

[trim breach]

butteryfixes doesn't reference weedenemies

neither does enemysoundfixes

[radiant nymph]

Why would ai fix be patching subtractfrompowerlevel

[trim breach]

and i doubt (but im not totally sure) that generalimprovements is referencing it

[radiant nymph]

@cloud sorrel

[worldly briar]

Is this the same errors I threw in #dev-general ?

[trim breach]

because otherwise monsters that spawn in the opposite space subtract the wrong power level

like, if a dog spawns from a vent, it adds indoor power, but killing it would subtract outdoor power

audioknight had to patch it with custom behavior

to make power levels work consistently

[cloud sorrel]

^

which Buttery was kind enough to help me with, ty again ✨

[radiant nymph]

Are you gonna push an update to fix it? ;o I mean if it's backwards compatible with V62 ofc

[cloud sorrel]

Checking the error

Oh I see what y'all are saying

yeah I'll push that later

Huh, or maybe I don't see what the problem is 🤔

[cloud sorrel]

What exactly did Zeekers remove that caused this to mess up?

@radiant nymph what is Urchin from?

[trim breach]

zeekerss removed WeedEnemies and all the code referencing it in v64

[hearty shale]

Urchin is from Surfaced

[cloud sorrel]

Oh, is there a beta out?

[hearty shale]

smh Zeekerss taking all of our weed

[radiant nymph]

Is it Surfaced that's doing it

[radiant nymph]

Yeah

[trim breach]

yes

[cloud sorrel]

Sec

Ah okay

[trim breach]

no

[cloud sorrel]

Yeah it's Zeekers' removal of it that's causing AIFix to throw a fit

[trim breach]

this would affect any enemy despawning or being killed with starlanceraifix installed

[cloud sorrel]

I'll just remove it from AIFix, it's not really that important to have in the current version

[radiant nymph]

Yeah

[worldly briar]

how will this interact with mods like #1274491441862672394 for custom moons?

[cloud sorrel]

It won't really do anything
The single line of code that referenced it was just to ensure that it subtracted power from the correct list when it died, which is not that big of a deal in most scenarios

[worldly briar]

ah, mb I saw weed and think there was some code removed that was for vainshrouds in the v64 beta so I assumed this was it

[cloud sorrel]

Yeah, that's why I had to remove it, cuz otherwise it'd just throw errors constantly lol

[worldly briar]

I do love not having errors spamming the console

[teal flicker]

seems to be buttery fixes, not sure if this actualy causes issues but this doesnt pop up without buttery fixes and red is usualy bad?

[rustic crater]

It's a vanilla thing: #1211989201793449994 message

It'll probably be patched by one of the bugfix compilations pretty soon, though, they're usually pretty quick on newly-discovered bugs.

[trim breach]

yeah vanilla is just broken

what matty says in that quote is correct

personally my hypothesis is that the maneater is eating metal scrap and that's causing nullrefs

1a3 fixed a different bug with stormyweather in lethalfixes and we've talked about him maybe taking up the mantle for this maneater thing as well

[teal flicker]

the confusing thing to me is i just dont get this message anymore the moment i disable buttery fixes. so if i understand it correct, the maneater can eat scrap? and that is messing with stormy?

if thats it then its maybe just rng messing with me even tho when with buttery fixes the messages basically starts popping up right at the beginning of the day

[trim breach]

this is a bug that happens in vanilla with stormy weather

stormy weather caches a list of every metal object on the map at the start of the day

and then any time it is selecting an object to target with lightning, it searches through that list and picks an object

if any objects despawn after being added to that list, it causes the stormy weather script to crash and it would throw that error in the log

butteryfixes does not interact with stormy weather at all and wouldn't cause this bug to happen (nor would it fix it, to be clear)

it is just a matter of RNG giving you different results on different trials

lethalfixes (by 1A3, good mod if you don't already have it) includes some fixes for stormy weather that would prevent this error from happening in v56

but there's some new stuff happening in v60+ that allows this bug to happen under different circumstances

and right now nobody has a mod that fixes those circumstances

although 1a3 might be adding it to lethalfixes soon

if he doesn't want to, i'll do it

[trim breach]

to offer an update on this it's 100% a vanilla bug

the maneater thing i mentioned is a problem

but there's another bug that's breaking stormy weather even worse

1a3 and i have been looking into it

[teal flicker]

i love how it always just didnt happen without buttery fixes, game is actively trolling me at this point

[gilded lintel]

keysarescrap = false is making the "Total" amount appear with a number when only scanning keys, the Total appears to be the last Total amount when you scanned actual scrap, not sure if it was always like this or a v64 thing

[trim breach]

sorry ive been dragging my feet a bit on this next update again

have to write a couple of transpilers and i never look forward to doing that

mostly because the way im doing them is stupid and bad

(but... functional...)

[radiant nymph]

So btw if you wanna push an update for MeleeFixes I don't think the fix for shovels becoming unusable is needed anymore, I've done tests without it and that bug no longer happens

[trim breach]

im still sort of on the fence about doing that

[radiant nymph]

So I would chalk that off as a now redundant fix

Fair

[trim breach]

i kinda want to move the shotgun stuff in this mod to meleefixes

and if i do that, i can remove that shovel stuff if it's redundant

[radiant nymph]

Ye

The other stuff is still useful, but the issue of them breaking when reeled when dying no longer happens

[trim breach]

but right now since meleefixes works as-is in v64 and the readme doesn't have any remaining inaccuracies, it's not extremely high priority

[radiant nymph]

That seems to have been fixed in Vanilla

[trim breach]

kind of interesting because i dont think anything changed in vanilla that would affect that

but in fairness i never knew 100% what was causing it to happen anyway

[radiant nymph]

I still think it was DoorBreach that used to cause it tbh

The old DoorBreach

[trim breach]

very possible

[rustic crater]

I'm able to reproduce it every time I take a normally-spawned (conductive) scrap item and bring it outside. It also seems to be fixed by modifying the additions to StormyWeather.cs in v64_2 to metalObjects[i].targetFloorPosition.x = 3000f and targetingMetalObject.targetFloorPosition.x != 3000f for the second and third change, respectively. Might've just forgotten to update the variables after copying it to the other if statements.

[trim breach]

yeah there's 2 problems with conductive weather

one of them is an old bug coming back in a more aggressive way

any time metalObjects contains null references, an exception crashes the function before it can target new items

since metalObjects never gets cleared this always happens when landing on stormy weather for the second time during a session, unless you bring every single conductive object on to the ship to prevent it from despawning

[rustic crater]

It's not cleared?

[trim breach]

LethalFixes included a fix for that, but now the same can apply when the maneater eats metallic scrap

since that despawns it mid-round

[rustic crater]

I can see it happening with other modded stuff, too.

[trim breach]

and then, like you said, zeekerss checks the wrong variable always, so even if metalObjects[i] is not null it tries to check setStaticGrabbableObject's fields, which will always be null until the first item gets targeted (which can never happen)

that is probably just him copy pasting a statement and forgetting to change variable name, also like you said

[rustic crater]

Yeah, at least that's probably a simpler fix.

[trim breach]

yeah

[rustic crater]

    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(StormyWeather))]
    public class StormyPatches
    {
        [HarmonyPatch(nameof(StormyWeather.Update))]
        [HarmonyTranspiler]
        internal static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> StormyWeatherFix(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions)
        {
            CodeMatch[] match = [
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(StormyWeather), nameof(StormyWeather.setStaticGrabbableObject))),
                new(OpCodes.Ldflda, AccessTools.Field(typeof(GrabbableObject), nameof(GrabbableObject.targetFloorPosition))),
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(Vector3), nameof(Vector3.x))),
                new(OpCodes.Ldc_R4, 3000f)
            ];

            return new CodeMatcher(instructions).End()
                .MatchBack(false, match)
                .SetOperandAndAdvance(AccessTools.Field(typeof(StormyWeather), nameof(StormyWeather.targetingMetalObject)))
                .MatchBack(false, match)
                .SetOperandAndAdvance(AccessTools.Field(typeof(StormyWeather), nameof(StormyWeather.metalObjects)))
                .InsertAndAdvance(
                    new(OpCodes.Ldloc_2),
                    new(OpCodes.Callvirt, AccessTools.Method(typeof(List<GrabbableObject>), "get_Item")))
                .InstructionEnumeration();
        }
    }

This did the job but it could probably be done better.

[trim breach]

i plan to fix both of these before i release the next update

i will probably just add a null check for metalObjects[i] so it absolutely can not crash under any(?) circumstances, modded or otherwise

and then redirect that one setStaticGrabbableObject check to point to metalObjects[i] instead

[rustic crater]

The third setStaticGrabbableObject probably also should be changed, I'm guessing it's currently only erroring out before it gets to that one.

(Pointing to targetingMetalObject.)

[trim breach]

actually by the looks of things that should be ok

for consistency's sake (as well as just being what was likely intended), i agree it should be changed, but i don't think it actually causes any exceptions

because setStaticGrabbableObject would get set before execution reaches that point, unless i'm mistaken

[rustic crater]

It actually still errors out with only the metalObjects[i] swap, items start getting struck by lightning again when I swap the targetingMetalObject in as well.

[trim breach]

oh ya nvm

strike metal objects timer can be randomized between 1 and 28, and if it starts less than 10 it could still bug out

[rustic crater]

I think it's just whenever lightning's about to strike (strikeMetalObjectTimer <= 0f), the < 10 part is a bit lower.

Also I was able to get the other error only when I took the item outside and then destroyed it, so the null check will probably fix it.

Wasn't happening when I destroyed items inside, though, so I'm not sure if the Maneater can actually cause it to happen.

[trim breach]

well, the metal objects list is iterated through sequentially

[rustic crater]

Oh, it's probably if there is an item to strike outside, then.

[trim breach]

yeah

the way objects get selected is kinda wonky

there is a bias towards items higher in the list being targeted

meaning the last several objects to get cached are extremely unlikely to ever be targeted, unless all other items are inside (either the ship or factory)

but if the first 10 objects are inside the factory, the maneater ate the 11th item in the list, and then the 12th item is sitting outside, you'd probably stil get an exception

for example

[rustic crater]

Guess that explains why some items feel like the "Zeus favorite", haha.

[trim breach]

lol yup

[trim breach]

there's a bug ever since v60 (which patched the old bird being killed with the cruiser) that makes it impossible for earth leviathans to eat the old birds

i was planning to fix this

it's one of the few things remaining before i think i will release this update (still need to implement those stormy fixes, then i think it's good to go?)

but while looking into this bug

i discovered that if you fix it, i'm preety sure earth leviathans will be allowed to eat each other

which is sort of hilarious but definitely unintentional

it's like that punchline where a fish eats another fish... then gets swept up by a shark

or an eagle

[radiant nymph]

I also caught Meteor Shower spamming errors earlier when I had it

[trim breach]

post

[radiant nymph]

Not sure if it was due to MeteorShoweChance though

But this error would spam

[trim breach]

i think if i keep adding stuff to this update im never going to release it

so unless i can figure this out sorta quickly it'll probably go on the backburner

but i'll take a look

[trim breach]

meteor shower chance just affects the meteor event itself starting

a nullref in MeteorUpdate implies something else is wrong

[radiant nymph]

Yeah I figured it wouldn't be that

[trim breach]

because that's the script that actually moves the meteors

and handles the audio, explosions, etc

[radiant nymph]

Yeah they were working fine, just spammed that in the log for whatever reason

[trim breach]

the usual "ugly but it works" transpiler

[trim breach]

v1.10.0

• Removed some redundant fixes implemented in v64
• Fixed stormy weather not targeting items as of v64
• Soccer ball fixes
  • Fixed soccer ball being impossible to scan
  • Fixed soccer ball making you invisible to nutcrackers
• Fixed Old Birds being immune to the Earth Leviathan (new bug since v60)
• Spray paint cans ordered during the same round can now have different colors
• Fixed maneater opening doors while held by the player
• Fixed some surface lights turning off on Dine or Artifice when power goes out
• Fixed players endlessly tracking blood if they are critically injured right before end-of-round recovers their HP

i always worry there's going to be some sort of horrible bug immediately following major releases

but the stormy weather, old bird, and soccer ball fixes were pretty important so i'm glad to have them finally be out

[fading ether]

been getting some red in console during startup w 1.10.0, doesnt seem to like mattyFixes or terrasRebalance touching stormy-related stuff. not super surprising ig

[worldly briar]

The new error

[trim breach]

well that is annoying, but should be expected, i suppose

[worldly briar]

I'm sorry, and also not

[trim breach]

i think my code might be conflicting with another mod changing stormyweather.update

because in a vacuum it works fine

so this might be a little tricky to make work but i will try to hotfix this

[worldly briar]

Beta weathertweaks og weatherregistry most likely

[trim breach]

to make it at least not blow up on launch

[worldly briar]

Possibly GI but I doubt it

[trim breach]

nah i doubt it

it's probably mattyfixes

but to be clear

it's my fault this error is happening because the transpiler i wrote is awful

oh nvm

actually it launches ok with mattyfixes

so it is a different mod

let me check out a couple of other ones

might be terrasrebalance

question mark

it does have to transpile the same method i do

but just by the sounds of things

it should be ok

yeah no

it still launches fine for me

maybe if i launch with both

the combination of both fears

[gilded lintel]

mattys does create readable meshes, but you've already established its not mattys

[trim breach]

yeah

[trim breach]

i got this error while i was writing the method

it took me a while to get something that actually worked

but right now i've tried with matty fixes, terrasrebalance, beta weather tweaks, weather registry, all at once and nothing is causing this error for me

kind of annoying

if i can figure out what mod is transpiling stormyweather.update

i can at least temporarily disable the null check (since that is what would be throwing this error) until i have time to properly fix it

so it'll stop exploding on launch

[trim breach]

any chance you could send me a profile code

i've tried all the likely suspects and it still runs fine for me

ah wait, i think i might have figured out what this problem is

but if i'm right that's super fucking weird

[hollow fable]

got that same error

[trim breach]

because this should have been causing an error for everybody, and not just because of a mod conflict

so the fact that it didn't throw errors for me and also worked flawlessly in game is so surreal

anyways i think i have an idea of how to patch this

and i can probably release that patch in a couple minutes

[worldly briar]

dm'd you the code

[trim breach]

@fading ether @worldly briar @hollow fable i have released 1.10.1 on thunderstore which should fix this issue

i still have no clue why this error won't replicate for me

but i'm almost 100% certain i've fixed it

in any case

[worldly briar]

I will test asap, will report back

[worldly briar]

Did not see the error while booting up this time

[trim breach]

good good

[teal flicker]

something is breaking my suit rack in combination with buttery fixes

no wait now it doesnt anymore

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

installed buttery fixes = suit rack broke
messed around and figured out that disabling buttery fixes solved it
re-enabled buttery fixes and now it works with buttery fixes

[trim breach]

lol

weird

[true shuttle]

sorry if this has been asked, but for chameleon, are there plans to implement a config options that lets you add modded moons to the lists for the mineshaft types?

[trim breach]

just fyi, we've got a chameleon thread going over here
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1280017266200674314

i would like to make it more configurable!

i don't really play with custom content so it's a bit of a slow learning experience for me to figure out the best way to support it

the ice caverns might just stay auto-toggle for levels with snow footprints

but i'd eventually like the player to have the option to put skinned variants on whatever custom moons they want

[true shuttle]

oh oops, discord search sux for threads ;=;

tried to look but only this one came up my bad lol

[true shuttle]

i'd rly like this, especially for the canyon/desert ones since those seem more subjective as to where they fit

[paper garden]

BetterStamina has had the ability to sprint while climbing a ladder for a little bit (though keyword option) 👉👈

[calm bobcat]

I think the cabin doors should probably have the same sounds as the mansion doors

[trim breach]

lol i didn't realize

[trim breach]

the next update will restore quicksand spawning in rainy weather

but unfortunately their spawns are not synced across the server

which means that you'd only see the quicksand if you were using the mod

so i'm going to make it a config setting that you need to enable

with the advice that you probably shouldnt use it unless everyone has the mod and enables it in their configs

i think worst case, players without the mod just won't see people sinking in quicksand

users with the mod will still die and disappear for all players, since that is handled client-side

but i guess if i'm wrong you can just turn it off

and if it's really bad i'll just remove it outright

[sick storm]

Does quicksand not spawn on rainy weather anymore or did I miss something?

[trim breach]

yes, zeekerss broke it in v64

[trim breach]

next update will also include a fix for this

[ionic lion]

TulipSmile

[feral roost]

[abstract plaza]

So with the new view pitch, Zeekerss introduced a definitely unintentional cheese with the Coil-Heads where if you look directly down, Coils can never get you.

Is there a possibility of this getting fixed?

[trim breach]

i have it on my backlog of stuff to look into

[low jewel]

for some reason this prevents you from spamming items like hairdryers

[worldly briar]

good

[jolly raven]

oh yea, why is that?

[trim breach]

for the most part items/objects with sound effects have their cooldown set to a reasonable value where they don't overlap

the hairdryer is the only exception to that

also since the sound is the hairdryer turning on and then turning off it just doesn't make a ton of sense that it can overlap

[true shuttle]

its also really funny

[solid dagger]

OH

I thought zeekers fixed that lol

my group was so sad that he fixed it

[jolly raven]

is that a config I can change

it doesn't "make sense" but it's funn ee

also I'm 99% sure it's intended for you to be able to spam that

[trim breach]

just being honest i don't want to make a config setting for something so harmless and it's an inconsistency + annoying in-game

if in the future zeekerss came down from The Dark Place to say it is intended then it would be a different story

i found out zed dog being conductive and sounding metallic is intentional so i've reverted that for next update

[fleet lintel]

death to hairdryer spam

[radiant nymph]

LMAO

Yeah making jeb angry with the hairdryer is funny

[jolly raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229102990007472288/1282184305707192373/bounce.gif

im crying im on my knees I want to punch my pillow its over its so over it couldn't be more over

[hollow fable]

I thought about something and decided to bring it here because you have alot of vanilla related mods. How about a mod that makes the Mapper buyable on the store

It's almost functional, you would just have to make it appear on store, drop on the dropship (instead of dropping a shovel) and make it update when clicking instead of every frame

[radiant nymph]

I have never seen the mapper, only ever seen pictures of it tbh

[hollow fable]

it exists on the terminal and can be brought if you type mapper and even get the info if you type "info mapper"

it appears often in old save files or corrupted save files

because the items id gets messed up

it's very op because it shows the ship's map and the power doesn't run out

well

because it's unfinished

[hollow fable]

also giving a icon because the mapper icon is a pro-flashlight 😅

[trim breach]

someone asked me to do it forever ago and i said maybe one of these days i will

and then i remember once every month "oh yeah, i never did that"

and then the cycle begins anew

[hollow fable]

don't worry i will remember for you once every month

i searched a bit more about the Mapper and considered what should/could be tweaked to make it functional and balanced

• Price: 30 -> 40~45 (Reasonable price)
• Uses before the power runs out: 20 -> 10~12 (Currently doesn't turn off, just becomes unable to update again)
• Weight: 0 -> 5lb (Same as pro-flashlight)
• Proper icon
• Appear in store
• Drop on the dropship when bought
• Update the image when clicking [LMB] instead of every frame

[jolly raven]

there's a mod that does that already I think

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Mellowdy/HandheldMap/

[hollow fable]

This isn't the Mapper

This is a new item that does what the mapper does and it's configurable

But it's a brand new tool with a new model created on LethalLib

[abstract plaza]

I think the reason the mapper wasn't fully implemented was because it negates a big part of the ship guy™️

[hollow fable]

At first, i thought that too, but i noticed that there's a lot of downsides on the Mapper

On multiplayer, the ship guy can see everyone radar, communicate with a walkie or signal with people and alert about danger INSIDE and OUTSIDE, aside from being capable of opening metal doors, deactivating turrets and landmines. The mapper on the other hand can only see the person that's in the ship map and you can't switch, if there's someone on the ship then they would conflict because there's some situations where you can't communicate and the person couldn't know that you have a mapper, and it wouldn't make sense for more than 1 person to carry the mapper. Also it had* limited uses (20)

But there's a strong point about it

It's very strong in singleplayer, which currently is the hardest way to play LC

[abstract plaza]

The item kinda falls into useless territory in that case except for single player.

And even then, I'd actually say it's not as strong in single player as you may think.

You're still having to occupy one of your slots for it.

[hollow fable]

It would be weak only if you're bringing only him to the facility

That's were the belt bag steps in

[abstract plaza]

Eh, belt bags aren't really that great imho.

They're good for carrying lots of shells but that's it.

[hollow fable]

they're good at carrying tools in general

But the mapper would be a damn useful addition compared to the Lockpicker, Weed Killer and Extension Ladder

[abstract plaza]

Yeah but like, I only ever see myself bringing 2-3 tools to entrances anyway on solo

Jetpack, shovel or shotgun, and maybe lockpicker

To loot efficiently on solo, you need to have all 4 slots available for loot grabbing

also belt bags cannot carry shotguns

[hollow fable]

That's true, even so you can bring a map for a quick scan around the area to see where's the loot, or exit if you're lost

[hollow fable]

didn't know about that

The shotgun is considered as a scrap instead of a tool?

[abstract plaza]

Yes it has value

[hollow fable]

the Knife also?

[abstract plaza]

Yes

[hollow fable]

CRY

[abstract plaza]

I will say it's good for taking a bunch of shells in bulk

it can carry shotgun shells

which is great in case the moon ends up spawning like 5 nutcrackers and leaving you with 10 shells to transfer

[hollow fable]

I can't fight 1 nutcracker with 4 people, imagine fighting 5 nutcrackers 💀

[abstract plaza]

Well if you down one and get a shotgun, you can down the 4 others that spawn over the day in one blast.

[hollow fable]

I might want to risk doing that in my next playthough

[abstract plaza]

Honestly if you wanna get confident in fighting them, use Imperium to practice fighting them.

[hollow fable]

But i still wanted to see the Mapper becoming a tool

It isn't very OP, but it also isn't useless

[trim breach]

big update coming tomorrow

i think

it is done right now, i believe, but there's some stuff i want to make sure i havent broken

and it's encroaching on 4 am right now

[radiant nymph]

@trim breach

[lofty badge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-coilhead-scary-look-looking-gif-12536352711327814477

[trim breach]

well, noted

im glad the quicksand has been fixed in basegame because i didnt like the idea of releasing an all clients fix in a host-only+client-side mod

update is still planned to release today but there's something i need to test in multiplayer

[abstract plaza]

I should mention Zeekerss's patch isn't entirely effective. Maneater can still breaks stormy

[trim breach]

yeah i'm not gonna remove the null check

because stormy will still break if metal objects despawn

that's always been a bug if you take off in the ship without getting all conductive items off the moon (surface or dungeon) first

although lethalfixes fixed that forever ago

the maneater can now despawn scrap mid-round and im not sure if a fix for that ever found its way into lethalfixes or not

[trim breach]

it looks like it did, which is a helpful optimization (so it doesnt have to loop over so many null objects in the array as frequently)

but since there's no conflict i'll still leave it in for the (hopefully small) number of users not using lethalfixes

[slender laurel]

when the next update comes around can the patch for making blobs unkillable be configureable? I think it's to stop spike traps from killing them, but I'm finding it's conflicting with EverythingCanDie

[trim breach]

in the next update i will disable the slime patch if everything can die is installed

[low jewel]

crushing the hygrodere into sludge 💔

[radiant nymph]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SoftIgnorantLobsterTheRinger-KnPg0BqE3utdFsNh @trim breach You managed to finally fix this bug? lol

That's a classic 🤭

[low jewel]

that's an issue with catwalk rooms i think

[radiant nymph]

Yeah

This was in the changelog

[low jewel]

oh

[radiant nymph]

I miss LethalThings but it's such a bloated mod at this point and half of it doesn't work properly

[low jewel]

rest in peace lethalthings, i miss your flare gun

[trim breach]

any item that inherits from StunGrenadeItem

stun grenades, homemade flashbangs, and easter eggs, in vanilla

[calm bobcat]

yay, it makes the noise

[jolly raven]

makes me real sad but yeah

[feral roost]

yeah.. i keep it in my modpack, to me its nice despite its flaws, but it really needs some love

[teal flicker]

Give me a separate mod with maxwell and the teleporter traps and I would remove lethalthings

[worldly briar]

give me boomba and I remove LT

[radiant nymph]

Boomba doesn't work properly rn anyways

[worldly briar]

Has been working fine for me all along

I keep testing them every time

and they always explode

[teal flicker]

Not for me

They barely ever explode

[teal flicker]

Also wasn't there a moving landmine mod? I thought I saw something like this a week ago

[jolly raven]

yeah there's a moving landmine mod

[radiant nymph]

@trim breach Meteor Shower still seems to give this error and idk why

[trim breach]

i havent touched meteor shower logic at all

or investigated this bug

so im not sure how to fix it yet

[radiant nymph]

Yeah I still dunno what causes it, just wanted to inform you it still happens since I remember letting you know about it before lol

Pretty sure it's a vanilla issue

[low jewel]

would fixing being able to hit enemies with weapons through the ship doors be in the scope of this to fix

[trim breach]

moreso melee fixes

[low jewel]

well then perhaps that should have! that

[trim breach]

sure... i sorta want to move the shotgun fixes from butteryfixes to melee fixes anyway

the fixes for shotgun targeting

to my knowledge this only affects dogs and giants

and beyond that mainly just dogs

because you dont need to close the doors on giants

[abstract plaza]

If that does get added as a fix, I would like for it to be toggleable.

[trim breach]

i guess that is fair

[abstract plaza]

It's one of the few "cheeses" that I don't feel bad using only because it's already a gamble.

[fleet lintel]

inb4 "why SHOTGUN FIXES in MELEE FIXES!!!!!!!!!!!"

[trim breach]

i am the worst at foresight when it comes to naming mods

and i will forever lament the lack of rename functionality with thunderstore

mfw enemysoundfixes includes like 6 fixes for cruiser audio

[fathom peak]

The cruiser is the ultimate employee enemy

[abstract plaza]

To be fair, you have to be up close for shotgun to be effective anyway, so it's still melee.

[hearty shale]

Because the mechanic is unused in v64

The fix was for multiple things spawning from one vent at one time

[trim breach]

if im not mistaken vent spawn fix predates the first version of butteryfixes

[hearty shale]

The only thing that used it was the Barber, which had its mechanics changed in v55 I think

[trim breach]

but time is a nebulous concept to me anymore

anyways it got deprecated almost immediately because lethalfixes integrated it

[hearty shale]

Yeah, it wasn’t our long

[trim breach]

and then it is now undeprecated because lethalfixes removed it after the barber stopped spawning in groups

if you use barberfixes and enable spawning in pairs

then yes

or if you customize indoor monsters

to spawn in groups

with like lethalquantities

otherwise no, it doesnt do anything

[low jewel]

i thought ventspawnfix fixed a bug where multiple things would try to spawn in the same vent and failed, is that fixed in vanilla now or fixed in a mod?

[jolly raven]

its not fixed in vanilla, just isn't used since.only barbers (when they spawned in groups) used it

[trim breach]

the original version of ventspawnfix fixed that bug, yes

but that was fixed in vanilla in i think v56

or maybe v60

i dont remember which

now you only need ventspawnfix for group spawning enemies

[low jewel]

i meant things would try to select the same vent when they'd spawn

[jolly raven]

auurr

im tupid

[hollow fable]

Monthly reminder of the Mapper

I was thinking if it would be possible to make it a server-side mod 🤔

Without balancing the tool, just buy it at the store, take it from the dropship and make the update button switch players on the radar

[trim breach]

the mapper could be implemented serverside sort of

but clients without the mod will see it with the flashlight icon and it wont have any sfx

and it will desync discounts for host vs clients

[hollow fable]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-marvel-small-price-pay-for-salvation-gif-14748250

[hollow fable]

That means that the client can buy some items with discount while the host can't?

hm

dammit

[snow girder]

any known incompatibilities causing this?

ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
  at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) [0x00009] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0009 
  at ButteryFixes.Utility.NonPatchFunctions.SpawnProbabilitiesPostProcess (System.Collections.Generic.List`1[System.Int32]& spawnProbabilities, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] enemies) [0x0000d] in <b5dec54fe47c4486822f41d8590c54c3>:IL_000D 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnRandomOutsideEnemy>(RoundManager,UnityEngine.GameObject[],single)
  at RoundManager.SpawnEnemiesOutside () [0x000c2] in <d2996142fa1d46369fdcffced906545b>:IL_00C2 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::AdvanceHourAndSpawnNewBatchOfEnemies>(RoundManager)
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::Update>(RoundManager)

Updated a bunch of mods. Will probably have to narrow this down. Breaks natural spawning obviously. Might have some old deprecated entries in my LQ setup or something..?
(limit spawn weight config from this mod is disabled)

[trim breach]

definitely nothing comes to mind

this error is happening because something is creating a SpawnProbabilities list with more/less indices than OutsideEnemies

which can't happen in vanilla

if you are able to figure out which mod is incompatible, i can look at diagnosing it better or improving compatibility with it

[random vessel]

Something i should be worried about?

[trim breach]

lol

high quota fixes apparently blanks out the entire CollectItemsInTruck function

which is like... why, but also, meh

anyways that error just means it can't patch the function because it can't find the code it needs to patch

[trim breach]

since it has been deleted

all of the other patches will load fine and the mod will still work

it just means that my fix for auto-collecting teeth when you magnetize the cruiser won't work

[random vessel]

Aah gotcha! Yeah, i didn't noticed anything ingame really. Is it just for autocollecting teeth? Auto-collect seems to still work

or now it works normally. Few months ago it would place the first dropped stuff outside of the ship. But that is fixed now

[trim breach]

yeah vanilla just has an oversight where specifically the teeth don't get collected when you magnetize the cruiser

[random vessel]

gotcha, good to know!

[trim breach]

maybe hqfixes implements their own custom collection logic

dunno

[random vessel]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/4902/Cruiser_Additions/
remembered incorrectly. This mod auto-collects for me now

is hqfixes even necessay now? Haven't even noticed that i had that installed

[trim breach]

idk wat it does

[random vessel]

"Fixes the spider web bug and the interact glitch for High Quota runs." Never heard of this problem. Think it autoinstalled with some other mod that now has removed it as a dependency. Will remove it. Thanks for the info and pointing that out

[fleet lintel]

yeah i've also seen that mod and i have no idea what it does, but when i added it my whole game kinda exploded

[random vessel]

aight, thanks for the info. That might be why my lethal crashes on start-up sometimes

[abstract plaza]

There are toggles for the fixes with HQFixes related to the cruiser so you can probably see with those

[random vessel]

great, will check it out! Just didn't know i had it

[fading ether]

afaik interact bug and spider web bug still exists

testaccountfixes broke horribly for us so weve been using that instead

[random vessel]

gotcha gotcha, might be why i did it also. Testaccountfixes breaks alot'

mostly with grabbing stuff after death

[iron swallow]

it fixes these

[fleet lintel]

this doesnt mean anything if theres no explanation of what those are

[iron swallow]

i think webfix is the permanent slowdown from spider webs, interact fix is for this

i have zero idea for the rest tho

[random vessel]

alright, that i have had too many times so i will keep it. Should i just turn off Cruiser teleport fix? or both cruiser fixes?

[abstract plaza]

Just try it

I can't say definitively it'll fix the issue, I just thought I should've mentioned that mod has configs

[random vessel]

Gotcha, thanks man!

[trim breach]

probably:

1. web fix - being stuck in spider webs permanently, even after they are destroyed
2. interact fix - fixes controls locking up when scrolling through inventory too quickly after pickup/dropping something
3. qelock fix - fixes q/e interaction getting stuck when pocketing a walkie talkie or spray paint, causing items with power to turn on on their own and waste battery.
4. mech desync fix - fixes teleporting/invisible old birds
5. cruiser teleport fix - ? probably teleports player into the ship if they are on the car when going into orbit
6. cruiser magnet lag fix - Dunno

3 is fixed in vanilla now

[abstract plaza]

I think the thing with HQFixes as a mod is that it's probably meant to be used with an otherwise mostly vanilla setup

So mod compatibility is probably super low priority for it.

(Which sucks because vanilla v64 is actually awful)

[jolly raven]

I got both a ton before installing it

[jolly raven]

damn fr? how so?

[abstract plaza]

I have a lot of reasons but I won't drown out this thread with it

[snow girder]

seems to be fixed just by loading my LQ presets file and saving it again. idk..
I also disabled some previously enabled entries in there that had their rarity set to 0 but I don't think that should even matter.
scrap that. it depends on the moon.
I'm printing OutsideEnemies with Hullbreaker on LoadNewLevel Prefix.

[13:39:46.8242391] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ╔═════════════════╗
[13:39:46.8242391] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ║ OUTSIDE ENEMIES ║
[13:39:46.8242391] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ╠═════════════════╩══════════════════════╦════════════╤════════════╤════════════╤════════════╗
[13:39:46.8242391] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ║ Enemy                                  ║     Rarity │     Chance │   MaxCount │      Power ║
[13:39:46.8242391] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ╠════════════════════════════════════════╬════════════╪════════════╪════════════╪════════════╣
[13:39:46.8247347] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ║ ForestGiant                            ║          4 │      3,85% │          3 │          3 ║
[13:39:46.8247347] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ║ BaboonHawkEnemy                        ║        100 │     96,15% │         15 │        0,5 ║
[13:39:46.8247347] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ╠════════════════════════════════════════╬════════════╪════════════╪════════════╪════════════╣
[13:39:46.8247347] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ║ Sum                                    ║        104 │            │            │            ║
[13:39:46.8247347] [Info   :HULLBREAKER 2.2.4] ╚════════════════════════════════════════╩════════════╧════════════╧════════════╧════════════╝

You're saying during the round when a spawn wave executes the SpawnProbabilities is different from that?
I feel like the problem might be that I have some mod that adds outside enemies configured to add them with a rarity of 0. (because I'd rather configure the rates in LQ)

[trim breach]

well, SpawnProbabilities gets cleared and rebuilt every time SpawnRandomOutsideEnemy gets called

it iterates through the OutsideEnemies list and adds 1 value for each enemy it finds

so unless you have another mod patching that function before my code runs, it should be 100% impossible for the two lists to have different sizes

I could at least "fix" this so the code doesnt crash when the lists are different sizes

it means the patch wont work 100% of the time for you, and wont fix the underlying issue you are having, but it will at least stop spawns from breaking

[snow girder]

I had noticed the error actually changed. It was no longer referencing outside enemies but the PlaceRandomEnemyInVent function.
So I looked at the inside enemy list and I think now I actually resolved the issue entirely by reenabling Diversity which is really odd. I need to test more later.

I don't think an action is required from you at this time. Maybe you generally want to catch that case tho. I'll get back to you if I can figure out anything useful

[trim breach]

yeah, it would be really easy to prevent this crash from happening and probably worth it just to be safe

i will put out a hotfix for it in just a minute if you want to see if that will fix it for you

[trim breach]

@snow girder when you get a chance, try 1.10.3 and see if it fixed your issue

[snow girder]

Found enemy vent which has its time up: VentEntrance(Clone). Spawning Cleaning Drone from vent.
Failed to create agent because it is not close enough to the NavMesh
Spawned enemy from vent
[Debug  : Diversity] Plotting enemies: True True
[Debug  : Diversity] Spawning batch of enemies!
[Debug  : Diversity] Calculated average insanity: 1
[Debug  : Diversity] Calculated chance of Watcher in 7 Dine: 24,26904%
[Debug  : Diversity] Calculated average insanity: 1
[Debug  : Diversity] Calculated chance of Watcher in 7 Dine: 24,26904%
[Debug  : Diversity] Calculated average insanity: 1
[Debug  : Diversity] Calculated chance of Watcher in 7 Dine: 24,26904%
[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
ADDING ENEMY #7: Hoarding bug
Adding 0 to power level, enemy: Hoarding bug
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] Enemy "Hoarder Bugling" spawning is disabled; no nests present on map

[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
ADDING ENEMY #7: Hoarding bug
Adding 0 to power level, enemy: Hoarding bug
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] Enemy "Hoarder Bugling" spawning is disabled; no nests present on map
[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
ADDING ENEMY #7: Hoarding bug
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] Enemy "Hoarder Bugling" spawning is disabled; no nests present on map
Adding 0 to power level, enemy: Hoarding bug
[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
ADDING ENEMY #17: Moving Turret
Adding 1 to power level, enemy: Moving Turret
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] Enemy "Hoarder Bugling" spawning is disabled; no nests present on map
[Warning:Buttery Fixes] SpawnProbabilities is a different size from the current enemies list. This should never happen outside of mod conflicts!
ADDING ENEMY #1: Butler
Adding 2 to power level, enemy: Butler
[Debug  :Buttery Fixes] Enemy "Hoarder Bugling" spawning is disabled; no nests present on map

really annoying issue since it's so inconsistent, so I'm really grateful for the bandaid fix. Thanks!

[gilded lintel]

Does this mod do anything with spiders? I didn't think so but just checking

[trim breach]

no

well

it fixes a bug if a nutcracker shoots a spider

but other than that no

[burnt trellis]

since there's no post for AccurateStaminaDisplay, i'll go ahead and send this here:

would you consider using a very-slightly modified version of the stamina meter to accommodate the new stamina visuals? it felt a bit odd to have the red section start without any transition.

it's a rather small, rather pointless change but i'd love to see it implemented regardless! <3

[trim breach]

lol