#Kite’s LC Mods

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midnight sierra
mystic pine
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I dunno, maybe we ought to test a bit further to see how many different Apparatuses there can be.

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I only explored one floor because my friend was an idiot and fell down the elevator shaft.

mystic pine
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Next chance I get, I will post a screenshot of the App when it's orange.

low flicker
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I'll do the same when I find a zeranos facility apparatus

frosty violet
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mod is lowkey coolio but the mobs spawn instantly so more often than not we just get spawn camped by a thumper or bracken :/

also the items just dissapear from the ground which just makes it a cool concept but a bit unusable

frosty violet
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it's far too random to be predicted tho

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so i can't even play around it

mystic pine
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The orange App I had would go dim in the elevator when heading back up for me.

low flicker
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Okay so I did find an orange apparatus but it dissappeared going to the next floor. It just vanished after the elevator went down

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Here's the log

midnight sierra
frosty violet
midnight sierra
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i don’t speak english

grand knot
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huh

remote lake
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Hey, just tried Zeranos with a friend. Our flashlights ran out pretty quickly and left us in pitch darkness. This is never a problem on vanilla moons since we're used to playing without flashlights anyway (as we can loot more efficiently without one) but in this case we literally couldn't see anything and could not navigate back because there was complete darkness in all directions - even turning up gamma did not make a single pixel visible.

I understand that you want the elevator to look a certain way, but it is severely punishing when flashlights run out of battery and it makes the risk / reward trade-off for non-flashlight players way too unbalanced IMO. Is it possible there could be an option in the config files to re-enable the player light? I really love the concept for this moon and want to play it more.

midnight sierra
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🤔

analog bridge
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i encountered plenty of issues last night, but i have no logs to deliver at this point in time (id need to revisit)

errant bluff
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the only thing thats stopped me from using zeranos is the zeranos facility performs really bad for me for some reason

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if it picks a different interior to use thats compatible with zeranos (dreary pipeworks or niven reactor) its fine, but zeranos facility is really laggy

mystic pine
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I guess this is the excuse I needed to get Dreary Pipeworks

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At this rate, I'll have as many interiors as I have moons

mystic pine
remote lake
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That could be a temporary workaround, yea. Ideally we wouldn't have to carry a flashlight, though. Plus it'll change the balance of the game if we end up playing on other moons and not JUST Zeranos.

mystic pine
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I only go to Zeranos for the Apparatus, WHICH BROKE LAST TIME

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Kiiiiiiite!

midnight sierra
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I didn’t do nothing

midnight sierra
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i need plink be evil

midnight sierra
errant bluff
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fish

desert laurel
midnight sierra
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original

midnight sierra
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lc update when

grand knot
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yesterday

frosty violet
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For Zeranos its telling me I'm not using the Facility interior even though I went and changed the weight so it'd always be the interior

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so I dunno what I'm doin wrong

mystic pine
frosty violet
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lethalleveleditor right?

mystic pine
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Somehow people always forget to check that box to enable configuration

frosty violet
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I'll test it again

frosty violet
# mystic pine LethalLevelLoader

well thaat solvedit but nwo I gotta deal with another issue, not with this mod but just, one of em keeps throwing errors that clog the lgosd

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*logs

low flicker
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This might be the correct log but I had a flashlight just dissappear from my hand upon returning to the ship and taking off. We was at zeranos. I think it has something to do with the elevator because the only other time this happens (it's rare) was with the lc office interior elevator

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It also makes the orange apparatuses dissappear

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Though the orange app dissppearing is just going to another floot and poof, it gone

midnight sierra
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But if fr then I know what’s the problem and it happens only with the apparatuses

low flicker
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I can see why the apparatuses could be a simple problem but like the flashlight thing definitely happened I'm pretty sure. I might've had it in the elevator storage, retrieved it, went back to ship and someone else pulled the lever. When we went into space, my flashlight was still in my hotbar but wasn't visible in my hand nor usable. When I picked up an item over the flashlight, the flashlight icon in my inventory dissappeared and got replaced with what I picked up

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I recall something identical with the lc office elevator and heard someone mentioning items dissappearing about a week ago but they could've just be talking about the apparatuses

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😭

plush heron
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how do I add interiors to zeranos?

wheat prism
plush heron
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I'm currently using lethal quantities

wheat prism
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aside from zeranos interior i think the only 2 that support it are some of demonmae's

wheat prism
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just don't add interiors that don't support zeranos

plush heron
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I see, is there a list anywhere that shows compatible interiors? I saw a bit further up demonmae posted a screenshot but I don't see any others

wheat prism
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there isn't a list

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you just gotta check the readme if it supports

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i think the 2 demonmae interiors are dreary pipeworks and some other unreal interior

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niven reactor was the other one

plush heron
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the readme? are they accessible through thunderstore

wheat prism
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yes

plush heron
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seems like none of the ones I have work :/

midnight sierra
errant bluff
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wiwiwi

plush heron
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fresh pie? save me a slice!

low flicker
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does anyone know if I use two handed item storage, will it save the orange apps from being deleted upon storing them in that storage thing in the elevator on zeranos?

analog bridge
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it wont

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for a custom appy to be saved, renaming it is part of the process, so if it's just called "Apparatus", it'll be lost on save reload

midnight sierra
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I’ve got a stupid idea for LC

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for a new experience

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it’s called LC Verdit and what it does is

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you install only the mod and it changes all the game mechanics completely

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just for the new experience

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for example there won’t be default planets or even the ship

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new characters

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npcs maybe

analog bridge
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hell yea, LC 2D Platformer

midnight sierra
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no no

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not like a platformer

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same lc but completely different

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for example lobby will be a building with bunch of npcs

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and to fly to the moons you have to use something like a rocket or something

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lol

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but it’s just an idea

stiff helm
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Kite Journeys 🔥

wheat prism
low flicker
# analog bridge it wont

Do you know if there is a mod that allows that or helps with that? If not it's fine, I'm just kinda wishing they didn't dissappear

analog bridge
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no mod. appy needs to be renamed by the uploader and registered as a LLL item

errant bluff
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i installed lc verdit and what they do for you is they give you a rocket

midnight sierra
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lmao

low flicker
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A yellow apparatus on zeranos

low flicker
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And while I'm here, can someone PLEASE tell me what the zeranos weathers do 😭 😭

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I can't find anythign about them

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espeically the winter and autumn

wheat prism
low flicker
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does that bloodmoon works like eclipsed or was intended but never came to be?

wheat prism
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i don't know

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i never got it when i tested zeranos

low flicker
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I think at the moment it's just a red fog that affects the interior as well.

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That's what it seemed when I got it

midnight sierra
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skibidi toilet

errant bluff
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car alert

midnight sierra
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I might drop a mod for

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a new masked behaviour

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That's optimized and doesn't eat ur memory

mystic pine
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What would it be?

midnight sierra
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It will include everything what I made before

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I think I sent it here somewhere

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Where maskeds could jump, use ladders and etc

wheat prism
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jump for off mesh links?

stiff helm
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pretty much yeah

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It hink :)

midnight sierra
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Yeah

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maybe even with physics

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idk

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I have to rewrite my code

midnight sierra
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Today is my birthday here

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March 2

stiff helm
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITE

errant bluff
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happy birthdayy

midnight sierra
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tanks

brisk kayak
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appy birfday! pikaLove pikaBelieveinChu

elfin swift
wheat prism
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WHAT

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KITEDAY?

midnight sierra
low flicker
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How does other modded interiors work? When I get a demonmae interior on zeranos, I will keep getting that same interior the lower I go. Is it not possible to get different interiors that are compatible? Also, I don't know if it's a demonmae issue or zeranos but demonmae interiors on zeranos moon have fire exits

midnight sierra
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That's true

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You'll get floors based only on one dungen flow

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That is selected at Start

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Zeranos moon havin fire exits? 🤔

low flicker
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It seems to be only demonmae's interiors. I'm pretty sure I mentioned it, I'm sure they'll get to it eventually. I wish there was a way to get multiple interiors, the same interior over and over is a headache lol. Still cool though

tired robin
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How do you fuel the elevator as I'm playing with my friend rn and the elevator just ran out of power and i tried looking it up but nothing came up

grand knot
tired robin
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what cans

grand knot
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jerrycan??

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fuel cans??

tired robin
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oh ok

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
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It's so random lmao

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Maskeds can jump anywhere and die

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I will record a video of it soon

fiery slate
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@midnight sierra can i peek at your code making ship animations for going into/out of orbit

stiff helm
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isn't it just an LLL thing

fiery slate
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apparently doesnt work according to a couple people, i tried it as well and didnt seem to work but there's also a 50/50 i didnt build so i dun entirely know

stiff helm
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iirc synthesis had a working ship anim at some point but yeah I haven't seen people really... do ship anims at all

midnight sierra
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I sent it before

fiery slate
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Tanks

midnight sierra
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That is scary

grand knot
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is zeranos hot-reloadable....

wheat prism
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don't know

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but a lot of its size is from the plugins that allow its gimmick to work

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it ended up slowing my entire game down even when i wasn't on it, until i removed it

midnight sierra
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My elevator system needs a proper remake

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Where people could make their own moons with an elevator

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Just like Zeranos but without 200mb of downloading

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So basically it will be like a plugin that you add to the dependencies in your moon

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And spawn the elevator by one gameObject with a script attached.

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But the question is

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Is it worth it?

grand knot
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it would be pretty cool

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like a new type of dungeon

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so yeah, seems pretty worth it

errant bluff
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i would definetly appreciate it, i love the concept of zeranos

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spend awhile on a moon going through different floors instead of the usual gameplay

midnight sierra
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So Idk If I ever do it

stiff helm
wheat prism
deft swift
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did anyone end up making compatible interiors

errant bluff
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^

deft swift
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how does compatibility work? do i need to set the interior for zeranos or does it automatically use it for random floors

errant bluff
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you need to set it in the lethal level loader config

midnight sierra
errant bluff
midnight sierra
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#dev-enemies message

errant bluff
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murder beevil

midnight sierra
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ivil

analog bridge
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that gives me an idea

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one with which i will definitely ||not|| follow thru with

errant bluff
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when carbirb mod

midnight sierra
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tomorrow

errant bluff
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im so hyped plink

stiff helm
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im so sniped EmployeeShotgun

grand knot
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im so conspired evilkitty

midnight sierra
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muehehehe

midnight sierra
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mario looks at phone walks sad gif

errant bluff
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pim smiling friends

midnight sierra
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wat

grand knot
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found an issue with zeranos where stormy just affects you inside

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might be old but idk

wheat prism
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ive been getting that with other moons as well

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might be a registry issue

midnight sierra
grand knot
keen cedar
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Is there a list somewhere of all interiors that are compatable with Zeranos?

grand knot
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those are the only interiors that support it

keen cedar
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thanks!

midnight sierra
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I sometimes work on LC Verdit

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I made a system to randomly pick employee classes for each player

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HUD also changes colours based on ur class

low flicker
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is LC Verdit out is it a wip atm?

midnight sierra
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no

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LC verdit it’s just uh

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a mod that I do to play with my friends and experience different Lethal company

astral saffron
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getting some stuff about sub-emitters on zeranos. Is this normal?

midnight sierra
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I don’t think it’s from Zeranos

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Because I don’t use any particle system

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Wait no, I use it for the portal smoke but I don’t think that is the problem

midnight sierra
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I will upload my employee classes mod’s source codes to somewhere

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if someone needs

stiff helm
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that'd be sick

midnight sierra
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So

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To make elevator mod work on every moon I have to somehow dynamically cut the meshes

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I know one method but I don’t think it will work on every moon

wild forge
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from zeranos

stiff helm
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oooh

wheat prism
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zeranos doesn't like tworadarmaps

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0195ebb4-5c1d-a8c2-a732-a4e8e93bc3b7 found it with this code

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also a lot of spam from sub emitters

midnight sierra
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I can't do nothing about it tho

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Imperium does that too

wheat prism
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(or finishes)

midnight sierra
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I recommend not fixing it and just wait for the elevator API

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But idk when it's going to be done

errant bluff
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car charging

midnight sierra
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hi. (sorry for my bad english)

mystic pine
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But nobody will mention the existence of the joke itself just to stay in-character

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It's not your bad English. It's everyone else's humor involving bad English.

midnight sierra
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frfr

midnight sierra
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there was a meme where one guy commented “hi. (sorry for my bad english)”

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on a yt video

mystic pine
grand knot
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cethal lompany

silk meteor
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Perchance

mystic pine
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Cherpance

gentle swift
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this probably asked alot but is zeranos supposed to be hidden?

gentle swift
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sorry it was a bug nvm

errant bluff
midnight sierra
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fr i can’t take it anymore

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why there’s a lot of car birds

errant bluff
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theres an ongoing car birb infestation

gloomy yokeBOT
errant bluff
ebon abyss
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Why does the Cruiser move around outside when I land on Synthesis

wheat prism
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i asked zaggy about the issues with tworadarmaps and zeranos, the posts in that thread should help you a little

hearty needle
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I'm here if there's anything that you might want to ask

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and take my stuff about the FindObjectsOfType<GameObject>() with a grain of salt since I'm unsure if there was a reason you chose to do that rather than something more granular

midnight sierra
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Wait I actually forgot

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It was necessary because after the generation it spawns map objects again with the camera I think

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Idk, I forgot everything in lc

midnight sierra
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whatdasigma

midnight sierra
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what

errant bluff
noble fjord
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Psst, just a random question. Just discovered Zeranos Moon with a few friends and played on it a bunch, but we noticed that anyone (but host?) bugs out and desynchronizes the moment they drop fuel, till they rejoin in fact. I wonder if there's anything known about it?
Pretty sure I had the same issue last time I modded items into the game, but I'm uncertain what exact setting fixed it. I belieeeve it's one of the 4 (or all?) Netcode settings in the item's scriptable object that I had to disable, but I'm uncertain what the implications of what are in this case

midnight sierra
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Only host should use the gas tanks or it will be bugged

noble fjord
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Got an idea if there's an expected fix for that by any chance?

dry blade
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What causes Zeranos to run at such a lower framerate? I know there's a lot going on here, but it dips quite substantially until I take the elevator deep.

Wondering where I can make optimizations via other mods. I'm guessing the fog is playing a role.

wheat prism
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All I can think of is that the moon itself is pretty huge and has a few particle effect areas that might affect fps

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Other than that idk

stiff helm
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shouldn't it be possible to not render those areas when the player isn't within range or can't see them

wheat prism
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Probably

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Idk how kite sets up his moons

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Once the other problems with zeranos get fixed he might wanna ask sickboy or someone to help optimize them

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Cus I don't know if he already did that

stiff helm
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those optimizations are mostly filesize relate if I'm not mistaken

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which in the grand scheme of things doesn't really matter unless the moon is like 10x bigger than it should be

nova frigate
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file size is nice because it helps people with slow/anomalous connections

grand knot
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i think i miss my zeranos

stiff helm
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please o lord kite... please fix the desyncs on zernanos...

wheat prism
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Oh Mr kite,, please fix tworadarscreens implementation (and betterexp for some reason) and my life is yours

midnight sierra
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Wake up

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It’s the first day of the month

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I will not fix any issues related to Zeranos, instead I will make another API mod that adds elevators to the game and uh

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It won’t be soon

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or someone else could do that, it’s not that hard.

midnight sierra
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I tried Unity 6

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same engine but very long SRP build times

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it sucks

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I built my game in 4-5 hours, feels like it’s UE not Unity

gentle swift
midnight sierra
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Elevator in any interior

gentle swift
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Nice that sounds really cool

midnight sierra
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car brid

midnight sierra
grand knot
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i ate the elevator

wheat prism
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oh, my lord Kite

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what must i do for the Zeranos update

stiff helm
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please kite i need this...

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my mother's kinda homeless

midnight sierra
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Should I release day/night cycle as another mod?

wheat prism
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would be cool but i'm not sure if it would play well with moons not intended for it

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also dunno if it would conflict with the day speed setting in LLL

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unless you could add that as a modifier to how fast the day/night cycle goes?

keen cedar
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I think it'd be pretty neat

wild forge
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It would be really fucking cool

grand knot
midnight sierra
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This one too

gentle swift
errant bluff
midnight sierra
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0

midnight sierra
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freaky

midnight sierra
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This is for my new moon named Aeclis

stray carbon
grand knot
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i think i miss my z

grand knot
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eranos

stiff helm
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i think i miss my vacuity...

errant bluff
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😔

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vacuipeak

wheat prism
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pour one out for synthesis

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rip my boy

low flicker
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is something wrong with these moons?

wheat prism
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na

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they just havent been updated in a while

stiff helm
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zeranos has mad desyncs wdym

wheat prism
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we don't talk about zeranos desyncs

errant bluff
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zeranos lag..

low flicker
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You seem to know how to work CentralConfig's config, would you mind helping me out with adding a specific enemy through it's config?

grand knot
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but yeah send me a screenshot of what you want to change

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and the enemy

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(because i can't access r2 rn)

low flicker
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I know they aren't meant for interiors but they do work supposedly

grand knot
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oh

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i was gonna ask that lol

low flicker
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but adding this through weather doesn't appear in the spawnpool no matter what I try

grand knot
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hm

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ive got no clue then

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since it worked for me on other weathers

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but i never tried dust clouds

low flicker
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hmm I'll try other weathers with it first then.

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is it supposed to have a space in it's name?

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I tried with and without

grand knot
stiff helm
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yeah they are

grand knot
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im going mental

errant bluff
dusky thistle
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Zeranos is broken in v70

wheat prism
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As expected

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Kite pleaseeeee

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u don't know how badly I need zeranos update

stiff helm
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please kite i neeed thiiiis

errant bluff
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he was forced to play lethal company without zeranos

grand knot
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I LOVE ENDLESS DUNGEONS OKAY

stiff helm
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just curious

stiff helm
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NICEE

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best of luck bro

midnight sierra
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Can you show me the errors?

dusky thistle
dusky thistle
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full log

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01979eb2-4213-5aad-aaf2-e86aae1c50ef

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profile has zeranos imperium and dependencies all updated

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I went in, spawned fuel, went back up, went in the ship, took off, then it froze.

stiff helm
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-# I should also point out that there's a lot of desyncs going on in MP on zera if you wanna adress those also maybe if you want

dusky thistle
stiff helm
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Since forever ago clients just can't really do much with gasoline

dusky thistle
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oh

stiff helm
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some of my friends also told me it was happening to them

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just gas is not really something clients can interact with

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just really unfortunate stuff really

wheat prism
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yeah i think the gas isn't networked properly

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kite did say only the host should be using them

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but there's also a hard freeze that occurs when using tworadarmaps

grand knot
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and PLEASE don't forget to fix stormy still affecting you inside the facility

midnight sierra
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my VS project broke

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so Idk

dusky thistle
midnight sierra
errant bluff
errant bluff
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when zerano

midnight sierra
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la la la laa wait til i get my money right

midnight sierra
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like i tryna work on lc mods and suddenly i remember that i have to do nothing rn

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instead of working

fallow drum
midnight sierra
viscid umbra
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Hey so uh I kept getting an error when I load into Zeranos saying that "ZeranosInterior is not loaded, so moon will no function correctly" stuff like that. Is there a way for me to make it where it ONLY loads in the ZeranosInterior for that moon only?

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I have modded interiors in my custom made modpack, but I don't want the other modded interiors to be on Zeranos if Zeranos is a coin flip on whether it even functions or not.

wheat prism
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If you have any interior using dynamic weight, it might be trying to add those

desert laurel
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^

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if it still doesnt work i suggest you go to the terminal, type simulate zeranos

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and whatever other interior turns up, go there, then add zeranos:0

wheat prism
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dynamic tag weights are additive

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so setting zeranos:0 won't do anything if there's a dynamic weight for one of zeranos' LLL tags

viscid umbra
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got it thx!

desert laurel
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what if you wanna keep the dynamic tags...

midnight sierra
errant bluff
weak oxide
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Not sure if it was because of zeranos itself, but we were unable to enter orbit while on it

weak oxide
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Hmmm... after visiting zeranos, I cannot land properly on any moons either. I pull the lever, it says its landing and I see the discount things as if I have landed but I have not. I pull the lever again, it lands, and then immediately takes off again

grand knot
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zeranos is completely bricked rn

stiff helm
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yeah zeranos is broken

weak oxide
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Is it? I just disabled code rebirth and that specific issue went away v:

stiff helm
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that's whack as hell lmao

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in any case I don't see why that should make zeranos shit the bed, even though it is

wheat prism
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zeranos has weird incompats

stiff helm
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Also be careful with the gas canisters in multiplayer cuz only the host can pick them up without causing major desyncs

wheat prism
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like it hard freezes the game if youre using tworadarmaps

stiff helm
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weird

weak oxide
stiff helm
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I yearn for a zeranos that doesn't have the main gimmick so that I can actually play the map lmao

weak oxide
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Main gimmick?

wheat prism
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it has too many problems in its current state

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not worth to remove so many other mods because this one shits the bed

stiff helm
weak oxide
wheat prism
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i wouldn't call it fun if u can't actually play it

stiff helm
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I get that's the point of the moon, to have these gimmicks, but Kite makes good enough maps as is to where I can enjoy it just by the outside layout

weak oxide
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We were able to play it fine other than not getting into orbit due to (probably) code rebirth

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I always hated how little time you get from base maps anyway. I like it

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even with LGU+goldscrap time shenanigans days go by so fast

stiff helm
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fair yeah

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If you like maps with long time I'd recommend Cosmocos honestly

weak oxide
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hell nah

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we tried that a couple times and it was completely awful for everyone involved every time xD

stiff helm
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damn ok 😭

weak oxide
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Like, it is an interesting concept, but not being allowed to do real teamwork because kekw was not fun for the majority of us.

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especially when it favors an interior with like, 10+ instant death traps that only experienced players would recognize fast enough.

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them dang haunted doors

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again, super cool concept, just wasn't for us especially with some newer players on the team.

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this one tho, zeranos, is perfect. can slowly ease into higher and higher difficulties without going through a ton of loading

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... when it works.

stiff helm
stiff helm
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it's really sad :[

weak oxide
#

which again, is a REALLY neat concept but most inexperienced players (eg. all but one of the people I play with) die within the first like 3-5 minutes of it, if they even made it inside on cosmo

weak oxide
stiff helm
#

I recommend checking its config and disabling the instakill doors and other gimmicks

stiff helm
low flicker
#

the only gimmick to rubber rooms is close door if you see that thing right? Other than that,theres fake fire exit, and the moving walls

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not that bad if thats all

weak oxide
grand knot
#

zeranos is NEVER

midnight sierra
#

chill car

midnight sierra
#

I could reveal something

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Wait wtf where’s my messages

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Hello discord?

grand knot
#

i can see it

midnight sierra
#

I said that I worked on a moon named Aeclis

grand knot
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ohhh

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neat

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
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Instead of replying to my own messages I edited them

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If I get a new pc

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I promise that I will work on it

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And on the Vacuity update

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Idk about Zeranos th

weak oxide
#

rip the coolest map

midnight sierra
#

wdym

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rip my pc

weak oxide
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oh you mean you can't play it

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I'm still just trying to figure out how to get zeranos to let me into orbit.

midnight sierra
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there’s two ways

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first one is to use old lc version

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second way is to wait me to fix it

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but idk about that

weak oxide
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buh

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guess I'll play on timed maps u.u

midnight sierra
#

when I checked zeranos after the new lc update

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ive got some errors from one of my patcher scripts

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it happened because of a new map system

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I shouldn’t patch these components and Idk why I did it

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I have to do something to fix them all

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Zeranos needs a full rewriting

wheat prism
#

zeranos update eventually?

fiery slate
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just let it happen

elfin swift
#

y'all saying zeranos zeranos zeranos
I just want synthesis to be great again 😭🙏SobRoll

midnight sierra
#

sob

stray carbon
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Synthesis & Vacuity were my must pick

grand knot
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all of them are amazing

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vacuity and zeranos stands out for me

errant bluff
#

i love moons with elevators!!!! plink

stiff helm
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vacuity is still peak and I still love it

low flicker
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I also wish Zeranos get's updated

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It was essentially a new gamemode moon and other than ||oxyde|| zeranos is the only other one

midnight sierra
#

What is Oxyde?

wheat prism
main fjord
#

may take away some smooth transitioning from outside to inside, but would be worth it

midnight sierra
#

wellll

main fjord
grand knot
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so what youre saying is that you want the elevator to be different depending on the interior??

main fjord
#

nah, the elevator being an interior that can spawn on different moons, would be a cool idea

midnight sierra
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I’ve got a new pc

midnight sierra
#

I forgot how to use imperium

wheat prism
#

holy fuk

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@stiff helm its finally here

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the fabled zeranos update

stiff helm
#

holy fuck are you for real

midnight sierra
wheat prism
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LOL

midnight sierra
#

It's a small update

wheat prism
#

its still an update

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thank you kite

midnight sierra
#

np

stiff helm
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THANK YOU LORD KITE SIR

wheat prism
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too bad discord's being a pos rn

stiff helm
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I AM FOREVER THANKFUL

errant bluff
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omg, finally

midnight sierra
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I still have to fix some issues

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for example I have to do something with the fueling system

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maybe I am gonna replace it with

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uhh

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an apparatus??

wheat prism
errant bluff
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apparatus could be cool

wheat prism
#

and you could probably ask jacob how he did the apparatus in the elevator for LC Office

midnight sierra
#

I already did for my secret moon

wheat prism
#

ic

midnight sierra
#

I still have to do some updates for synthesis and vacuitY too

wheat prism
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for vacuity at least it still works 99%

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the only problem i know with vacuity is that the first time you go down the elevator, the main entrance area is super dark, but if you're coming out of main its suddenly brighter

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i'm assuming that the darkness is intended, and just that there's a missing trigger or something for coming out of main

midnight sierra
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I know why this happens

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main entrance light spawns after time

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I just have to delete one component from it beevil

wheat prism
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sounds easy enough

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i don't think there are any other problems with vacuity

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not too sure about synthesis since i haven't used it for a while

midnight sierra
#

I don't like synthesis but it's my first moon so I like it a bit

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Synthesis needs a saving system for the apparatus

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And better elevator movement

midnight sierra
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and map

wheat prism
#

synthesis' apparatus does not save correctly?

midnight sierra
#

I think it doesn't save either

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But

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I meant

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When you first hang the apparatus

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Saving system to not hang again

wheat prism
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ah ok

wheat prism
wheat prism
dusky thistle
midnight sierra
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It shouldn't take long

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Maybe even tomorrow I can finish it

midnight sierra
wheat prism
#

ah

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i don't remember how other moonmakers stop that from happening

midnight sierra
#

maybe they add some collision

stiff helm
midnight sierra
#

Idk

stiff helm
midnight sierra
#

Yeah

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But what if instead of getting gas

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you take apparatus

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to "power" ur elevator

stiff helm
#

yeah, but would you have to get more apparatuses to power it once it runs out?

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or would it never run out?

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the gas seemed a lot more interesting

wheat prism
#

in theory it wouldn't have to function any differently from the gas

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just looks different

dusky thistle
#

I like the gas thing, but sometimes it can spawn behind a locked door and take too long to find

stiff helm
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that works, it's a lil less interesting visually but it works

midnight sierra
#

There won't be any desync issues with apparatuses

stiff helm
#

I just don't see why you would change it to be apparatus centric like Synthesis is, but I ain't gonna keep ya from doing what you want

low flicker
midnight sierra
#

sigurd alive

low flicker
#

does anyone know if the apparatuses still despawn sometimes when they where sitting in the elevator?

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That was like forever ago but idk if it's still present

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or if it was just a me thing

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
wheat prism
midnight sierra
#

well

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idk

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I was thinking about a lever or something in elevator

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to change w what u gon fuel

stiff helm
wheat prism
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and i guess once you insert it, it gets used up and becomes almost worthless

midnight sierra
#

Yeah

low flicker
#

why not apparatuses for the fuel source and the gas for like the same thing except the gas isn't as effective

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like keep the main focus on the main orange apps but when in a pinch use a gas canister

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and just make gas canisters less common so the main focus will be the apps

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Ion kno

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w

midnight sierra
#

🤔

astral saffron
#

By chance, will Zeranos clock ever come to other moons? Like to be able to stay all night and all day. (like a separate mod for itself)

low flicker
astral saffron
wheat prism
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i'll just put this here

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these errors get spammed when regenerating the dungeon

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it's a similar problem to last time with TwoRadarMaps

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but this time the game does not freeze

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so i'd call that good progress

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also there were interiors other than ZeranosInterior that worked with the moon right? iirc they were demonmae's but i don't remember which ones

errant bluff
#

dreary pipeworks and niven reactor

low flicker
#

My bug test of zeranos is it really felt like the blood moon wasn't as apparent outside. I remember it used to like have heavy red rain but it looks duller and the rain is scarce

weak oxide
#

well, our entire team keeps falling through the elevator into the shaft and getting stuck.

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"o shit" apparently.

wheat prism
wheat prism
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i should ask, when loading Zeranos with interiors like Dreary Pipeworks or Niven Reactor (which are compatible with zeranos) will every floor be the same interior flow? or is it supposed to switch between them each time you go down?

midnight sierra
#

It has to be same dungen flow

weak oxide
#

as host I immediately fell, client fell when trying to exit

weak oxide
midnight sierra
#

Maybe you have a mod that changes the dungeon generation?

weak oxide
#

not afaik

midnight sierra
#

That’s weird because I never had such bugs in my entire development of this mod

weak oxide
#

we've also fallen through at the mines, now that I think of it, though that killed us.

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the modlist, idk what could be doing it

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and code 019835f7-4da0-1493-35e0-1d066ac7825b

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Moon was eclipsed rather than blood moon, not sure if thats normal.

wheat prism
fallow drum
#

@midnight sierra you should register the Apparatus as a custom Appy btw instead of replacing the Vanilla Model

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Also it seems you can't refuel the Elevator?

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it errors

elfin swift
#

we're so back 🗣️

fallow drum
midnight sierra
#

I have to check my code

main fjord
#

shit's gonne be lit after i manage to get the zeranos custom interior feature working on a vanilla mansion copy.

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the flow generates, will just take a lil while to find out how i implement zeranos support

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had to work out a lot of texture quirks but its hard to tell any difference between the copy and vanilla

grand knot
low flicker
main fjord
#

the only difference is that the entrance never spawns on different positions, only on their original ones

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which sounds like a good compromise

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hope i get it working in the first place 😭

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good that i only need to change the entrance tiles

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  • some textures
main fjord
fallow drum
main fjord
#

how it looks with a random number:

main fjord
#

the first number sadly wont be in the middle cuz its setup in the way it is

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||zeranos has the same crane as the one on my moon 😭||

main fjord
#

how it looks without elevator rn

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and when the doorblocker + decorative door is back, you can't see the hole (if the interior were to spawn on a vanilla moon, not zeranos, why should it tho if mansion already exits 😭)

main fjord
#

my game keeps crashing if i try to land on the moon with the new interior

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bugfixing this will be hell

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ok, or i just made the dungeon itself broken somehow, as i cant land on a vanilla moon with it

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same crash issue

main fjord
#

logs tell me nothing at all

north raft
main fjord
#

thats how the mod (zeranos) works, can't change that

weak oxide
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had to put it to the absolute lowest quality possible to even be able to upload it lol

fiery slate
#

try using 8mb.video, it's a really good website for uploading anything to discord

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specifically videos

weak oxide
#

:V will do! thanks

main fjord
north raft
#

I’m not sure if this is known also

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But I think Zeranos breaks how time works on other moons

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After visiting it

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And going to another moon after

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Time starts moving ridiculously slow

main fjord
#

i goddamn fixed the crashing 😭

#

how it looks like with a 0

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now gotta pray it works on zeranos

#

i got it working perfectly with the elevator

#

i just need to properly align it with the tile

main fjord
#

will provide some screenshots, once i get it aligned

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
#

No idea why this happens

main fjord
#

while testing, i found out that zeekers fixed the friendly slime thingy

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it doesnt hurt you when the boombox is playing music

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kinda inconsistent tho

weak oxide
#

and other players have it happen when they try to go through the door rather than immediately like what was shown

main fjord
#

is there a way to block tile generation into the elevator shaft 😭

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i think i found a fix, i just extend the tilebound further back to compensate for the elevator

weak oxide
main fjord
#

its hella smooth

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without the elevator

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i just have to find out how to get the navmesh connected

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as nothing can get into the elevator

fiery slate
main fjord
#

hope it works

main fjord
#

it should be release ready soon but, this still happens:

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playing around with the tile boundary of main rn, so i can avoid this

main fjord
#

i placed an offmesh link but the enemies refuse to go into the elevator

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when using lethalmin, the pikmin outright refuse to stay on the elevator (when its on a floor)

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even when throwing them in

midnight sierra
main fjord
#

ah

midnight sierra
#

In the dungen tile settings

main fjord
#

ty

midnight sierra
#

Still

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Good job

main fjord
#

i extended its boundaries (so tiles won't collide), but ill check the settings if you mean a different one

midnight sierra
#

I think it’s the

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red boundary

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the box one

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did you extend it?

main fjord
#

i made it larger on this size

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cuz otherwise tiles would intersect with the elevator shaft

midnight sierra
#

Yeah this one, did you made larger in Y axis?

main fjord
#

ye i did

midnight sierra
#

make it even larger.

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on top and on the bottom

main fjord
#

k

#

so it encompasses the entire elevatorshaft?

midnight sierra
#

Yeah

main fjord
#

kinda makes sense

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hope it works now

midnight sierra
main fjord
#

ok nah, enemies wont go in, maybe its the offmesh link itself

#

anything special i have to do there?

midnight sierra
#

Show me your off mesh link component

main fjord
#

holup

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(i used icons, cuz in a prefab i can't really see the offmesh's)

midnight sierra
#

If you use imperium can you see like a nav mesh surface or something?

main fjord
#

ill try that rq

midnight sierra
#

Because the elevator itself have to add a nav mesh

main fjord
#

doesn't seem like it

midnight sierra
#

Hmm

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Let me check on my interior

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Like in game

main fjord
#

when i went up on the elevator, i saw these 2 for some reason

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but when the elevator is on the surface, things can go in and out

#

weird

midnight sierra
#

Oh well

#

Wait a min

main fjord
#

it still works

#

i just tested too

#

maybe it really is just the offmesh link but idk

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
main fjord
#

how is the one on your interior setup?

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id gladly take a prefab of it

midnight sierra
#

I don't think I placed any off mesh links on it

main fjord
#

that's weird

main fjord
#

ill maybe try to use a navmeshlink instead

midnight sierra
#

Okay

main fjord
#

does not work

#

while it moves, pikmin i throw on stay on the platform (kind of), but asoon as it reaches a floor, they dissapear from the elevator and i can't throw them inside

#

they just tp infront of the elevator

#

same for a maneater, can't drop them into it

main fjord
#

i think i just found the issue, your elevator has this thing i see using a mod, but it doesnt reach far in enough to connect to the entrance tile

main fjord
#

still doesnt work, after i tweaked the elevator positioning

#

is does this keep happening 😭

midnight sierra
#

Hmm

main fjord
#

it clearly connects 😭

midnight sierra
#

idk tbh

main fjord
#

they can "try" to navigate to the elevator, but they wont tp over, the pikmin see the connection but they somehow cant use it

#

the navmesh generates over the elevator

#

its not completely broken, pikmin cant go on but can somehow deposit items onto the elevator, including dead bodies

#

pikmin tp into the elevator on the surface + they return to it after you resurface

#

and monster not getting in isn't that troublesome

#

still annoying as hell

midnight sierra
main fjord
#

this is 5 stages of grief 😭

grand knot
#

atleast you are getting somewhere.......

wheat prism
#

terrifying first floor

#

also this

#

the spider hung itself above the entrance

#

another error log, i'll post it here and forward to the relevant modmakers

main fjord
fallow drum
#

Lol

wheat prism
#

i also thought the elevator couldn't be refeulled, but it turned out u just have to press the power button again for it to update the display

fallow drum
fallow drum
#

I will say the spawn curves on Zeranos are a bit nuts from my solo testing

wheat prism
#

i just assumed the crazy spawns are because it always lands you when its late

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i have not gotten a landing earlier than 9pm so far

fallow drum
#

Maybe lol

wheat prism
#

though i'm wondering if it resets correctly, because i have waited out a moon cycle and nothing spawned outside again when it got dark again

wheat prism
#

Yes, and i forwarded it to lethalthings thread

#

It still sends this error even if remote radar is disabled in lethalthings config

fallow drum
midnight sierra
#

I'm trying with LethalThings on

wheat prism
midnight sierra
#

How to free cam in imperium?

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
wheat prism
midnight sierra
#

Yes

wheat prism
#

hmm

midnight sierra
wheat prism
#

i also have tworadarmaps, universalradar, and radaredit, if those could be causing issues

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tworadarmaps did cause problems before but it wasnt reporting this time so i thought it got fixed

fallow drum
#

Prob RadarEdits

midnight sierra
#

What it does?

wheat prism
#

reverts camera to v69

midnight sierra
#

Oh

fallow drum
#

I found the important interiors already have V70 Sprite support and stuff now

midnight sierra
#

I also can fuel the elevator

fallow drum
midnight sierra
#

It works fine on me

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I pressed that button after I refueled

fallow drum
#

For me it errored when I tried to interact with it with any item

wheat prism
#

it fuels fine

fallow drum
#

lol weird

wheat prism
#

the display for your power doesn't update until you press it again

#

no errors

midnight sierra
fallow drum
#

I would guess it's something with the Apparatus not being properly registered as it's own item then

#

might be causing issues in my pack cus of some other mod that fixes some stuff

wheat prism
#

mine was at like 141%, put the fuel and it stays 141, press the button then suddenly 200%

fallow drum
#

The error mentions something about the Apparatus

midnight sierra
#

No?

#

Did you fuel using these?

fallow drum
#

I never found that

midnight sierra
#

Lol

#

So you are trying to fuel using an apparatus?

fallow drum
#

Yeah I was testing the Apparatus cus it threw an error about trying to find the Appy

#

lol

wheat prism
#

apparatus functionality was just an idea from a few days ago

#

it doesnt actually work with those

midnight sierra
#

Yeah

wheat prism
#

the fuel cans are the only way to refuel it right now

fallow drum
#

So where do you find the fuel cans?

#

I never saw them spawn

wheat prism
#

they spawn like scrap

#

though they are somewhat rare

#

it took me a while to find one

midnight sierra
#

Hmm

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And it can be picked up only by host

fallow drum
#

It could be the spawn weight is too low

#

and my Scrap Mods were making it not appear

midnight sierra
wheat prism
#

improper networking i'd assume

#

though if theyre set up like any other lethallib item it mightve got messed up during setup or your code is breaking some of the lethallib functions it needs

midnight sierra
midnight sierra
#

I just never created scraps before so Idk

wheat prism
#

if its LLL then it could be something else

fallow drum
#

I feel like @sudden ridge Could help you fix it

wheat prism
#

wait if you use LLL for scrap why is lethal lib dependency?

midnight sierra
#

I use it to spawn the clock

#

and other stuff

wheat prism
#

hmm

fallow drum
#

lol

wheat prism
#

which for something registered with LLL is the first time i've heard of it

sudden ridge
#

How is it being spawned?

wheat prism
#

i believe it's normal scrap spawning method

#

since it has a spawn weight only for this moon

sudden ridge
#

Does it exist for clients or can they only not pick it up?

wheat prism
#

still exists, can't pick it up

#

i think anyway

sudden ridge
#

Hmm

midnight sierra
#

But they can’t drop

sudden ridge
#

Oh

midnight sierra
#

It throws an network object error

sudden ridge
#

You're adding the item to your ExtendedMod right?