Code Rebirth [V§O∆X∆O§]

[wise stag]

no?

[gusty kiln]

like, after dawnlib update

[wise stag]

yeah, no

[gusty kiln]

that wasnt there before

[wise stag]

those configs don't exist on latest dawnlib, because i just cleared my config and launched, nothing like that

i also havent touched mapobjects in a bit either

[grand oxide]

where and how do you disable them then?

[wise stag]

dont exist for me, like i said, probably old configs

oh wait

i know why

[gusty kiln]

this is before dawnlib update

[wise stag]

i forgot latest coderebirth was really fucked in terms of configs

[wise stag]

no

[gusty kiln]

but it is 😭

im not lying :c

[wise stag]

latest dawnlib didnt touch any of that, you probably just havent regenerated configs in a while

[gusty kiln]

nooooo

[wise stag]

clear the spawn weights

[gusty kiln]

well ill rephrase

when coderebirth made the change from coderebirthlib to dawnlib

[wise stag]

that was months ago cheese 😭, like yeah no shit

[gusty kiln]

XD

[wise stag]

smh

[gusty kiln]

its 4 am im sorryyyyyyy

[grand oxide]

you mean Normal Wooden Crate | Outside Moon Spawn Weights? I cant find one for mimic

[wise stag]

there should be one for the mimic, and yeah, clearing that will cause it to no longer spawn

[grand oxide]

does this have different keys for you

[wise stag]

huh, are mimic crates not configurable in the latest version of coderebirth in thunderstore or are your configs just not generating right?

oh wait

uhh they're probably not generating cuz you have these disabled, lemme check the code, when did you edit these, ingame or did you relaunch after editing them?

cheese might be right here

[gusty kiln]

Xd

[grand oxide]

relaunched after edit

[gusty kiln]

Also hey, what i said about the is outside hazard is still present on the latest version

[wise stag]

yeah it is, just not my latest version, i mixed it up a bit since i run a pretty different coderebirth from last update :p

[gusty kiln]

Oooooh hehehe silly

20 yo starting to hit

[wise stag]

hmm, im not sure at all how this is spawning for you with the isoutside and isinside configs disabled

i guess, enable isoutside, that should allow it to generate the spawn weight configs, and just leave em empty

[grand oxide]

ill try ,thanks

[cedar plinth]

go jim go

where he goin with that

[knotty lynx]

Your front door

[wild oyster]

Me after Jimothy makes a delivery to my home

[cobalt mango]

im older than you?????????

hello???????????????

also happy belayed birthday..

[reef wolf]

ANCIENT FOSSIL

[mild storm]

toas

[feral cape]

Do you remember when the world was black and white?

[cobalt mango]

ive met your mom beanie.

https://tenor.com/view/fox-dance-gif-13194272662664676284

[mild storm]

havent we all? according to every kid on xbox

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-hater-hating-kitten-gif-13893141165284011720

[cobalt mango]

we used burnt rocks to watch tv bro

[cobalt mango]

we are all related in some way

those god damned volcano almost wiped us out....

[feral cape]

We’ve all met BADQ’s mum

[reef wolf]

no you havent

you’d be trapped by her gravitational pull

[visual perch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016231397578506250/1049932313657622628/2E49F679-D339-4BF2-80E8-7371398908E9.gif

[mild storm]

next moon, your mother

[reef wolf]

yeah its gonna be called horizon and it will be a black hole moon im making

you land and never return

she has infinite mass

[wise stag]

Most are

[mild storm]

xu is a fetus

[reef wolf]

guess im not born yet

shucks

[vestal python]

merely a thought

[tacit badge]

I'm

[vestal python]

im confused by the weathers config

default says to do Blizzard for instance its Weather Registry:Blizzard but dawnlib debug says weather_registry:blizzard

which one is right

[lavish saffron]

Lizard 🦎

[vestal python]

[pallid dagger]

what are you touching

if youre touching something that uses dawnlib id go for the 2nd

else the first might be fine

[vestal python]

its the code rebirth config

[gusty kiln]

this is how it looks by default

but dawnlib debug says weather_registry instead

maybe it doesnt matter?

[vestal python]

yeah

[gusty kiln]

maybe both work

[vestal python]

i'm gonna use the dawnlib definitions

i dont see why those wouldnt work

[wise stag]

i auto turn em into lowercase and remove any spaces into _

so both work

ideally use the dawnlib one

idk why i wasnt doing it like that, it's easier too

[vestal python]

ok

[wise stag]

https://tenor.com/view/rigo-lore-freakshow-gif-27225814

[gusty kiln]

ibai

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hirigo-hi-rigo-rigo-hello-gif-4448832514998253089

[reef wolf]

bye beego

🐝

[mild storm]

weird tablet i found in a crashed ship

[gusty kiln]

Thats so cool

Can i ask what did you use to make this?

[reef wolf]

jimothys cpu

[woeful solar]

The stuff required to make this

[reef wolf]

hes true

[tacit badge]

glad y'all are getting good use out of that vector I snatched off reddit LOOL

looks mad cool

[wise stag]

It's actually in the ship as part of the posters lol, Rodrigo was dragging it out of there

[wise stag]

Pure garbage tbh

Openshot video editor

[mild storm]

i need to learn a new video editor program

[toxic crane]

windows movie maker

[frosty venture]

Zero idea if this is going to be in-game but this peaks

[mild storm]

all the item tablets are getting a video on use

[frosty venture]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-memes-gif-16921095133411355177

Wait wait wait

Did you say item tablets, like plural, more then one..? Because the only other tablet I know of is for Haemoglobin........................

https://tenor.com/view/scout-goes-insane-gif-25382090

[reef wolf]

Haemoglobin next update

trust

and its just uhm

violent blood

iron lung

moon

you sink into the blood sea of goop

[feral cape]

Tomorrow Xu and Rodgo will announce that Rodrigo’s game and DawnLib don’t exist and all this time they’ve been working on a big CodeRebirth update that completely recodes LC to remove maneaters

[frosty venture]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-football-black-man-jump-jumping-gif-27706312

Eaterman gone,.,.,,.,.,., best LC upgate,.,,.,..,,.,..,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.....,.,,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

[wise stag]

so you DONT want the footstep surfaces with custom particles update on dawnlib 😔

[mild storm]

credit pads, ship upgrade unlockers and planet unlockers

[reef wolf]

me stepping on my beehive floor causing thousands of bees to swarm me

[feral cape]

Tomorrow Xu and Rodgo will announce that Rodrigo’s game and DawnLib do exist and all this time they haven’t been working on a big CodeRebirth update that completely recodes LC to remove maneaters

[reef wolf]

and then they reveal theyve been working on Rodrigos Big Adventure, where the titular green bird rodrigo fights against the forces of evil (zeekers uv’s)

[mild storm]

each step on a toast moon spawns flying toasts

[wise stag]

i have some good news, and i have some bad news 😔

[reef wolf]

YOURE PUTTING THE MANEATER INTO A PERPETUAL STATE OF LIMBO WHERE IT BOTH DOES AND DOESNT EXIST!?!!

[cedar plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261361675710496912/1332218169573507091/hellobro.gif

[wild oyster]

Maneater-Eater

[mild storm]

Tomorrow Xu and Rodgo will announce that Rodrigo’s game and DawnLib do exist and all this time they haven’t been working on a big CodeRebirth update that completely recodes LC to remove maneaters

zu and rodgo

[lavish saffron]

ZEUS 🌩️ ziaolan

[wise stag]

someone called?

[reef wolf]

rodrigos big adventure

[tight bluff]

@wise stag i've been asked to annoy you with my problem

it being to add a ship furniture to my mod

i have no clue how to do that

so i summon thee to guide me my good sir

[tacit badge]

what? are you sure about that?

as in it's part of the ship's poster atlas?

im talking about the moon icon btw not the ship

[wise stag]

Yeah, it's in there

[pure jetty]

Behold
The zeekers version

[wild oyster]

Needs more texture painting and smart uv unwrap

[pure jetty]

I think this is appropriately cursed

[tacit badge]

the fuck lmao

that's pretty cool

[autumn pagoda]

What the helly

[tight bluff]

i got ignored ;_;

[woeful solar]

Hi there

[tight bluff]

hi ;_;

[wise stag]

I just forgor

Uhh adding a ship unlockable

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

[wise stag]

It's fairly easy, have you started on anything for it?

[wise stag]

Wow good morning sleepy head

[tight bluff]

It's for The Cabinet, the big boss want a furniture to be made of it

right now the goal is making a white box furniture and it being in the same mod obviously

[mild storm]

Cide rebort

[wise stag]

What is it using to register the cabinet

[tight bluff]

u mean LethalLib ?

[reef wolf]

code… abortion…

[cobalt mango]

code reincarnation

[cedar plinth]

code reborn

https://tenor.com/view/black-gif-27226797

[hot light]

Code Repentance+

[wise stag]

then do you need help registering the unlockable or setting it up? i cant help with registering it since i dont use LL

[tight bluff]

well i dunno exactly, i have no clue of what am i doing when not working inside unity

oh u dont use LL... mh

that sucks

[feral cape]

Would it be considered to backport CodeRebirth to v40?

IMO nutcrackers are a little too common rend so i want to backport to before they were added

[valid drum]

Use ButteRyBalance

It fixes that problem of them being too over abundant

And has a bunch of other improvements as well

[reef wolf]

irony

sarcasm

[feral cape]

ButteRyBalance doesnt support v40

I checked

[valid drum]

You could just stay on v73 with it though

it will fix your Rend struggles

[gusty kiln]

Sarcasm invented 1579

[autumn pagoda]

1579 was not invented by sarcasm

Maybe discovered

[cobalt mango]

im john "sarc" asmonth

i invented sarcasm

it was difficult to put the pieces together

[reef wolf]

dude yoy fool

[reef wolf]

john S. “my name is definitely sarcasm” Sarcasm invented it

remember your heroes

jhon S. sarcasm

[cobalt mango]

of course my evil younger brother comes to defame my legacy

I thought i sealed you long ago, brother.

And yet you return.

[reef wolf]

he also worked with Eie R. Oller to invent rolling your eyes

[reef wolf]

foolish brother

you doubt my strength

you cannot bury me eith your falsehoods

the truth will always rise, even in death

[cobalt mango]

Lies! Nothing but lies! You've done it now!

Away with you at once! You rotten thief!

[reef wolf]

you fear me brother

you are too scared to accept the truth

let it be known

those who dwell in ignorance

get consumed by it some day

[gusty kiln]

Hi im the inventor of invented

[reef wolf]

my chud son

[ashen peak]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sped-up-silly-goober-sea-gif-1807503861489774979

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-tiny-kitty-kitten-cute-tiny-cat-gif-16858725523963030695

Sealion if cord big mirth tom's roe

[gusty kiln]

Died reading that

[mild storm]

Ski reem 4 cohdhe read girth go marrow

[ashen peak]

sri lin ef kohe ribihr tmror

[reef wolf]

eta fvie hdruned fhsi tmror

[cobalt mango]

webi babo

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-chile-plants-vs-zombies-webi-wabo-gif-8355810275696351339

[reef wolf]

RA ROOH RAAHH!!!

[cedar plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-delta-rune-coming-straight-from-your-house-coming-tenna-gif-9171253108024223554

[cobalt mango]

https://tenor.com/view/house-house-md-dr-house-greg-house-picmix-gif-11855482754183360890

[mild storm]

Code brainrot is being shut down

[reef wolf]

no… not corn remirth….

coal regirth…

you know the mod where jimmothy gives you cosl

coal

[wise stag]

to be clear, not boomtraps, those are getting counterplay

but do you guys think bear traps should have a way to, disable them, negate them, etc

[gusty kiln]

What :0

They are fine, maybe they could get disabled for a moment after removing them

Like 30 seconds or so

Im curious about boom trap rework tho, dont they already have a counterplay?

[wise stag]

what do you think is their current counterplay?

[gusty kiln]

Removing them quickly and running!!!

[wise stag]

that's just the way to survive them, not technically counterplay

[gusty kiln]

Oh what

[wise stag]

the boomtrap counterplay is hitting them to have them start their timer

[gusty kiln]

Oooh

[gusty kiln]

Thats cool

[gusty kiln]

VOTE

[reef wolf]

let me throw rocks at them /j

it would be cool to somehow bait them out but idk how you would do that and its not that big of a deal

i just wish they were still exterior exclusive it made them feel special 💔

but configs do be configs

[wise stag]

they are next update, it was stupid to have defaults for inside to put em inside anyway lol (but the configs INCASE someone for some reason wants that are still there, or maybe ill get rid of that and let lunar config handle it)

[reef wolf]

HOORAH

JOYOUS TIMES

[wise stag]

i will say there was an idea of having them get disabled upon hitting the beartrap with something like a shovel, which an argument about this caused me to make the poll to see if people are interested in counterplay of any kind

[reef wolf]

10% chance for it to get stuck in the trap and then you have a lengthy one minute long quicktime event to remove the shovel

peak gameplay

[wise stag]

loool

[gusty kiln]

that sounds cool tbh

[reef wolf]

we need more quicktime events

[gusty kiln]

what about spam to remove it? instead of holding

[reef wolf]

quicktime event to prevent dropping the maneater down tbe stairs

[wise stag]

a quicktime event with more than a quarter of a second reaction would be neat

[gusty kiln]

would make boomtraps even crazier

[reef wolf]

and if you fail he turns into a rigidbody and bounces all the waybdown

[wise stag]

lol, it has to be a hold to facilitate the animation, but i could check the times between you're clicking to see if you slow down or stop clicking maybe

[reef wolf]

dude in hindsight i need a mod that makes loot physics based rigidbodies so i can toss them around and pile them high on my ship

it would be awesome

[gusty kiln]

diversity has that for snare flea, to remove it you can smash e hehehe

[reef wolf]

i could make treasure troves

like a dragon hoard

[gusty kiln]

wasnt there a mod that do that back then?

[reef wolf]

and throw pickles at people

[reef wolf]

huiuh

[gusty kiln]

i MIGHT be wrong thO

[wise stag]

that existed

dev stopped develpoing it around hte end due to interest dying down

but iirc it almost fully worked

[reef wolf]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Ryokune/Physics_Items/

holy shit

i need this

and let me throw stuff ofc

throwing stuff at people will always be funny

theres so much cool shit that needs reviving man 💔 all tje coders died

[wise stag]

there's not enough people interested in coding

[valid drum]

Nah just a lot of early modders didn't stick around, I don't even think this dev was ever in this server lol

[wise stag]

i used to teach people in the community how to code but most people were just not interested at all

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

coding sucks

[wise stag]

that dev was in this server

and they still are

[valid drum]

Oh really?

[wise stag]

yes

[valid drum]

I guess they just went inactive

[wise stag]

i knew them

they pop up occasionally

[reef wolf]

😢 rip in fleece physics mod

im guessing they moved on to diff projects

[valid drum]

Beanie if you ever see them around maybe you can kindly request they revive it

[reef wolf]

i can confirm

[valid drum]

Whether or not they will though is up to them

[reef wolf]

I know because i dont know how to code!

[reef wolf]

highly unlikely

i dont wanna bother em

[valid drum]

Yeah

[reef wolf]

Idk if they would even allow others to pick it up

[valid drum]

Modding has also slowed down as like a whole rn, most people are waiting for V80

[reef wolf]

didnt zeekers have item physics in the beta???

[wise stag]

no idea

[cedar plinth]

yes

[reef wolf]

back when it was the elevator

yeah

[wise stag]

coding is fun, people stink

[cedar plinth]

there were yes

it was odd

[reef wolf]

*when you understand it well

i do not

[wise stag]

you cant understand something from the start smh

[reef wolf]

why cant i just have information beamed into my brain grrr

its too small

too slow

my pea brain

[valid drum]

If only V9 functioned past going down more than 1 floor, I saw so much gameplay and the game would often soft lock when people tried to descend further. Truly a different era

[valid drum]

I'd imagine that was largely why Zeekerss cut the Elevator idea from Experimentation

[reef wolf]

the entire game concept was gonna be different

focused on closing anomalies (portals)

with the zap gun

anomalies still appear in some places as empty game objects with no related files

mainly on moons

[valid drum]

I'm kind of glad the idea didn't stick

The changes Zeekerss did were for the better, he dropped a game that took off like crazy and broke huge ground

[cedar plinth]

wait it went down a floor?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101602027869581395/1403281063228477491/togif.gif

news to me

i played it and it was broken

[valid drum]

If you've played Zeranos that moon is based on how the original Experimentation played lol

But yeah the Elevator in most cases you could get 1 generation and any others wouldn't work

in v9

[glass sigil]

i think you're talking about v4

[valid drum]

Oh maybe

I thought it was v9 but ye prolly v4

[glass sigil]

i thiiink v9 was a version later on when like everything else was done? but moons had hourly time instead of just standalone days

[cedar plinth]

even though it's already confirmed that the company is Halden Electronics (or owns Halden) in the old version it literally SAID it.

[glass sigil]

the farthest i got was like 4 floors before softlocking

[valid drum]

more than most managed lol

[glass sigil]

and it takes like ten minutes to charge the elevator

[valid drum]

yeah

it was rough

[gusty kiln]

isnt there a game that has an elevator too

kletka or smth like that

[glass sigil]

also it wasnt cut cause of bugs or anything it was just kind of useless and was filler (image from "The final prototype?" on patreon)

[reef wolf]

im guessing halden is a subsidiary of the company

also

i believe some documents mention a moon where employees are trained called sunset

i always wanted to do that as a moon

[cedar plinth]

but he added this elevator screaming later

so in the end it was a win-win

[reef wolf]

Indeed

[knotty lynx]

I think they’re fine, but if they were to have one, I’d say hitting with a shovel or dropping an item into one could close it (whether or not the item is sacrificed in doing so idk)

[knotty lynx]

I could definitely see funny moments coming from them being inside, but if that’s not the default behavior that’s fine

[ashen peak]

i think a good counterplay would be being able to smack them with a shovel to trigger them. it would definitely help with the rare cases of them spawning in really annoying areas. they should stay closed after you smack them, but someone can intentionally open the bear trap back up to be a troll

[cedar plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/sickgang-gif-12816309404526441888

rodrigo lore

[ashen peak]

there could also be a small chance for your shovel to either be broken by the bear trap snapping shut or to get stuck in the bear traps grasp (for balance)

[reef wolf]

dude i

i

[ashen peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1343865645133070346/glup.gif

oh lol i didnt even see u suggesting the same thing

"i aint readin allat"

[gusty kiln]

Everyone suggesting the same thing

https://tenor.com/view/sheepdog-sheep-dog-blending-in-gif-25408874

[reef wolf]

dude did anyone see that

Must have been the wind

[haughty hinge]

Is it already known that Oxyde & the Assembly Part Unlocks reset upon reloading a save? (Doesn't matter if it's Dawnlib or Vanilla save system, it seems to happen on both from what I've been running into)

Basically... I unlock Oyxde, unlock... say LIZ-ZIE at Oxyde due to the Jar of 999 but don't buy the upgrade due to the lack of funds. I quit the game and reload the save and... Oxyde can't be traveled too meaning I need to find the tablet again. As for LIZ-ZIE... it's not listed in the store anymore despite having her unlocked from before. (If you happen to buy the upgrade though, then that's saved at least)

There's also this blank message when inserting Assembly Parts, which... is weird but it does at least proc the unlock to occur

Current mod list when I gave it a check to see if it was conflicting with mods from the other pack that I was using, but ending up shortening it to this amount and the same issue kept occurring

(Wider Ship prob isn't needed, but I had to install it since the Assembly Parts were outside the ship without it and thought they got deleted)

Wallet model is also a bit too low when held

[wise stag]

the blank message is known but should still work, wallet model is also known and fixed, ill try to see if i can replicate your issue because oxyde unlocking, the parts unlcoking, all that should be saved

im assuming you quit the save in orbit

[haughty hinge]

Yea, leave the moon, then leave the game when in orbit so it saves... and reload the file. Check if Oxyde & Assembly Upgrades re-locked on the terminal

Do you want the code for the mods?

[wise stag]

yeah please

[haughty hinge]

019bb5b5-5aed-48fa-cafc-3ad16ede393b

The only config change is Dawnlib's item & unlock saving in this, at least it should be, you can re-toggle that if you need to check the save system there.

Also prob maybe make the assembly parts buyable from the store to speed things up?

Is the ship that holds the Oxyde Tablet randomish? Or do you need to do something to have it crash onto the moon?

[wise stag]

you need to have oxyde not unlocked

and it's basically a 50/50 for it to spawn

[haughty hinge]

Prob unlucky then, since I'm doing this on a fresh save with the same mods from the code minus wider ship

[frosty venture]

The only issue I have with them is that sometimes outdoor gameplay is just looking down, but that's dependent on how many spawn

[haughty hinge]

Ship spawned... only for it to land on the house roof in experimentation, rip

[haughty hinge]

Ah, ok

@wise stag
So... if you quit and reload the file, the unlocks are still there. It's when you close the game and relaunch it and load the same file... the unlocks are locked once more

Lemme try to get a video showing that, I copied my save since I was waiting on the tablet from the ship so it shouldn't take too long

[haughty hinge]

Hope this is viewable (Code Rebirth Unlocks Reset Bug)

[feral cape]

They’re fine how they are but if you want to consider counterplay you could have them trigger when hit with a shovel and stay stuck like that for 10-15 seconds before falling back down

That’d help with inside beartraps in a bad spot

It’s a bit similar to boom trap counterplay but they may as well be the same thing but with bombs

[mild storm]

Question is also if bear traps being able to be disabled by just hitting them would nullify their gameplay and be too much of a nerf. Hitting them being a very easy counter able to negate them. Would it make them more interesting and open up more options?

[tacit badge]

I think it'd be a fine counterplay! You need to spend money on a shovel to do that which gatekeeps the counterplay for broke people. You also still need to watch out for the traps, and in the case of the ones that explode I think hitting them would be more dangerous than not cuz you'd have to warn people about you hitting it so they don't walk into the big explosion

I don't think it's a super needed counterplay, but it adds some spice and extra interactions to them which is always nice

[haughty hinge]

I prob should open this on the github, now thinking about it, but I wanted to check if this was known already before doing that

[fresh thunder]

From my pov, what would make it interesting is if the beartraps interacted with some enemies in some way
Like maybe dogs can set them off once, and after they break etc., or maybe make them only stop enemies for a bit without hurting them
Then, theres a tradeoff for disabling them, you miss out on the potential for them being useful
Interesting decision making

byeah, they dont need counterplay per say
Just paying attention is fine, and if you fail or it spawns in a really stinky spot then the punishment isnt that high

Explosive ones and several spawning on top of each other are a problem though

[frozen sierra]

Sacrifice a plushie of a person

like

melanie

or

glitch

[wise stag]

Melanie is worthless

[frozen sierra]

therefore you kill her with bear traps

[wise stag]

Waste of bear traps tbh

[tawny hare]

no

[frozen sierra]

It was just a joke that I threw out there, but something to activate the trap instead of stepping on it would be nice

[haughty hinge]

Did that video clip help with figuring out the reset bug? Or is it just me having the issue?

[wise stag]

i havent tried, i will take a look in a bit though

[haughty hinge]

alrighty

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-wiggle-sea-lion-funny-sea-lion-silly-gif-3392151111063749536

sea lion if code rebirth tomorrow

[gusty kiln]

time to redo my config again yay!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dance-sea-lion-gif-18060641275691946665

[wise stag]

dont tempt me cheese

[gusty kiln]

wooow

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-dance-sea-lion-dance-pinniped-this-animals-gif-27556468

steam id cheese so their configs reset on a random basis

[gusty kiln]

how much will the configs change? will we have to redo it once more?

[wise stag]

no lol

[tropic sage]

only you

[gusty kiln]

no need, already happens :c

[wise stag]

yeah

only to you

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-gif-6274474972916726262

[mild storm]

@tropic sage mel

[gusty kiln]

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-kiss-sea-lion-seal-seal-kiss-silly-gif-13723490843582579994

[wise stag]

after many months and a few consecutive hours of testing, i've figured out what broke the ship's boundaries in coderebirth, and ti is this line of code:

    private static void PlayerControllerB_SetItemInElevator(On.GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.orig_SetItemInElevator orig, PlayerControllerB self, bool droppedInShipRoom, bool droppedInElevator, GrabbableObject gObject)
    {
        orig(self, droppedInElevator, droppedInElevator, gObject);
    }

@lavish saffron can you see it?

[lavish saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

What is an elevator if not a ship room

[wise stag]

god knows

but i must've typed droppedInElevator in the orig method twice by accident

way back when i first wrote this

which according to github, was 5 months ago

[lavish saffron]

Reminds me of the one thing from LLL v1.1.0 that started causing issues only because I reimplemented dynamic dungeon size configs applying

Goofin up dungeon sizes despite being disabled

[wise stag]

its always some tiny thing somewhere

[ashen peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945098712206700565/1460297673558069299/reddit_wunkus_1q139au.mp4?ex=696861f0&is=69671070&hm=1f72d1d6584961b144244264ab4e8cac35e8d58c3fcf78495af3bd164ec67c5b&

[mild storm]

lethal company world got more than 780 countries

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sped-up-silly-goober-sea-gif-1807503861489774979

[wise stag]

the coin rework has required us to make a new furniture for storing coins, here is the journey i have taken so far:

name it coin counter
can't do that, gets denied because coilhead bestiary exists
name it money counter
can't do that, money is a command as well
name it denomination analyzer
fuck you that's also taken by the word deny

[haughty hinge]

coin sorter?

[wise stag]

nah, ill just be having dawnlib integrate some terminal features into it (was already planned but more planneded cuz this pissed me off)

[vestal python]

financial advisor

[feral cape]

Economic Valuator

[lavish saffron]

Numismatic Container

[mild storm]

Scream if oxyde is still on halloween but its ok because dine also is too

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-gif-12352186724248149394

-# its vanilla

[lavish saffron]

Halloween is just a week away

[fresh thunder]

Vanilla giant pumpkins moment

[knotty lynx]

Cash register

[wild oyster]

Giant Scrooge McDuck money vault where you can dive into the coins like water

[toxic crane]

this will be a life saver, i was planning on adding terminal conflict fix as a dependency to a mod, which i will still do until this is ready and (presumably) provides a solution

[pallid dagger]

the way i see it, hitting beartraps isnt really broken. if you step on a beartrap outside, its because you werent paying attention, and if you were, the way to overcome it is to just not step on it. if its impossible to not step on even if you are very aware its there, hitting it or even dropping something on the beartrap is fine imo. this doesnt make bear trap encounters any worse in the other situations, because stopping to hit an easily avoidable beartrap is pointless when you can just not step over it

this depends a lot on whether bear traps are meant to be easier or harder than landmines to avoid inside, and if the consequences are intended to be lesser or harsher than landmines

imo they are lesser landmines outside that might at most get you hurt if you step on them while running from something else

and inside theyre landmines that are harder to spot with the same thing going, probably wont kill you on their own but they are probably far more dangerous inside than outside if something is chasing you

i think being able to shovel them is a fine reward for people keeping their cool and disabling the beartraps while being tensed up inside the facility

and if you want to make this a harder thing to do, make it something like how you have to hold E for valves with a shovel on your hands rather than a single hit

thatd punish people for not getting rid of the beartraps beforehand and trying to very quickly get rid of them mid-chase if thats a worry

[toxic crane]

beertrap is only trap

[pallid dagger]

another alternative is shovel hitting just shoveling them over to the side or pushing them

doesnt remove them just repositions them

pair this with bear traps possibly being used on entities if you wish for that and beartraps can be super fun

[frosty forum]

Oxyde is considered a "hidden" not "locked" moon, right? Just want to make sure I set up my override list properly in LMU.

[wise stag]

no it is a locked moon, there is a way to unlock it with a pad

[autumn pagoda]

I lost the key

[tacit badge]

*spits out the key * wait.... guys look what I found!....

[tawny hare]

...because key tastes better than bread

[hot light]

https://tenor.com/view/ed-edd-n-eddy-ed-edd-and-eddy-ed-eats-key-ed-eat-gif-17644034787357925886

[ashen peak]

pepsi tastes better than key

[hot light]

[wispy chasm]

Bread and key taste better together...

[reef wolf]

but assorted acorns and leaves from the forest floor taste better than both

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sped-up-silly-goober-sea-gif-1807503861489774979

Sea lion rebirth

[reef wolf]

can someone make him green

that way we know we can place him there

we need to place more sea lions

like garrys mod prop spawning

[cedar plinth]

shes green because she can be placed there

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-man-eater-gif-13666768313501754844

[reef wolf]

they can be placed there

[ashen peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094337826692288522/1461548966582943785/L3VL04NGiFpRr-3l.mp4?ex=696af50b&is=6969a38b&hm=9f922e672b4a2fe95df6470f7206309781fe87559d9c00263917046f632f3906&

euh ouh euh eu ouh aeuh if code rebirth tommorow

[reef wolf]

i feel like the framerstebof my eyes goes up when hes on screen

[frosty forum]

Wth do I do with this oxyde tablet from a crashed ship? Just scrap or does it have something to do with unlocking the moon

[cedar plinth]

Use it

(left click)

then done

[frosty forum]

Oh nouuuuu, I sold it, this was a retrospective question 😂

[cedar plinth]

oop lmao

[frosty forum]

Haha, ty though, at least I know now lol

[mild storm]

new tornado looking great

dubious little creature up to mischief in the mel hot tub

[gusty kiln]

Tubnado

[mild storm]

gas leak 😔

[gusty kiln]

Gasnado

[wise stag]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-michael-don't-leave-me-here-madebyruisu-fnaf-memes-fnaf-sb-gif-8051002428397231217

[gusty kiln]

Dont leave me here

[mild storm]

"Close on them when they get inside"

[ashen peak]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-wiggle-sea-lion-funny-sea-lion-silly-gif-3392151111063749536

[wise stag]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-seal-seal-dance-seal-dancing-seal-seals-gif-17832446272461573261

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-gif-6274474972916726262

[mild storm]

the machines do get a little quirky

[haughty hinge]

huh, you can pick up the coins as scrap now?

[tawny hare]

in future (tm)

[haughty hinge]

Neat, I keep forgetting the wallet at times, so...

[mild storm]

Merchant and coin system is getting an entire overhaul and new stuff to spend them on

Piggy bank and wallets will no longer be useful but theyre reused for some stuff

[reef wolf]

is that a flame sentey

sentry

i cant see

[wise stag]

Nah it's the turbulence hammer

[reef wolf]

Ah okae

new hazard idea: comically small banana only spawns outdoors when you step on it its like the paco banana but it also forces 50 wesley mortars to fire banana blasts simultaneously and flings the player across the map

this will have zero consequences for the trout population

[gusty kiln]

Rebirth rebirth tomorrow

[mild storm]

😔 no

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-capoo-work-capoo-paper-gif-25432659

Amount of stuff to do...

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-hater-hating-kitten-gif-13893141165284011720

[wise stag]

Simple coin rework they said

Change up the entirety of the merchant coding ground up they never said

[mild storm]

Go home or go big

[wise stag]

Can I go home now

[mild storm]

No

[gusty kiln]

Goodnight

[mild storm]

You have 500 gals to add

[wise stag]

Thank you cheese, good night to you too

Get Rodrigo to sleep too

He's been a night owl

[mild storm]

Nightshift ref?!? Summoning mistress in your home

[wise stag]

Wait really? Goodnight

[mild storm]

You get scrap-e

[wise stag]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

I'll get Mel to ruff ruff

[mild storm]

🥀

[gusty kiln]

Omg PLEASE

I mean

Oh no!!

[mild storm]

Seamine upon both of thee and not the thicc one

[wise stag]

Okay Mr beast I'll take my 2 million as a loss

[mild storm]

Your wish is my command

Heres 2 million crabs

You didnt specify what

x 1000000

[gusty kiln]

Unpaid work

Keep working

No sleep

[mild storm]

Check, check and check

[gusty kiln]

Good good

[mild storm]

Whats next

[gusty kiln]

Tuck me into bed

[mild storm]

🦉

https://youtube.com/shorts/Z0Pf0SN9aRk?si=bQqGLRg4C8BhhTZZ

[gusty kiln]

There is no way that would wo...

https://tenor.com/view/nice-cat-gif-25643491

[desert current]

Guys, do you think the game is being too harsh with me while playing solo?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcwHlYhtCMw

[gusty kiln]

Vanilla

[desert current]

wdym?

[feral cape]

Chocolate

[cedar plinth]

WARNING
SEISMIC ACTIVITY DETECTED

[frosty venture]

"Simple QoL update"

But thanks for letting me know the update isn't coming out for awhile (I can fully confg the mod for a kitchen sink mod-pack and not have to touch the confg until the update drops [the kitchen sink mod-pack and the Code Rebirth focused one are two separate mod-packs])

If the update drops tomorrow and the confg is changed in anyway I will crash out

[cedar plinth]

cream if code rebirth tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/whipped-cream-shaving-gif-26339237

[frosty venture]

God I wish I had the video made by The Cheese on hand but I don't 😔

[cedar plinth]

i would send it but it's like 100 mb for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/cute-tiny-kitty-kitten-cute-tiny-cat-gif-16858725523963030695

[frosty venture]

Catbox or somethin

[gusty kiln]

😭

My bad

[reef wolf]

WHY IS HE THERE

[cedar plinth]

what trump

i was wondering the same fucking thing lmfao

that gif was at the very bottom of the bar when i searched up "shaving cream"

[ashen peak]

seal loin if rebith soon

[gusty kiln]

soonmorrow

[frozen sierra]

guys it’s not going to happen tomorrow

I’m here from the future

instead

code rebirth will be removed from thunderstore

[ashen peak]

code rebug is deprcated

[steel basalt]

code rebirth is coming to minecraft because zeekers

[cedar plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046818730883174565/1460029951565893696/attachment.gif

[feral cape]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[wise stag]

video of it fully working (you arent going to realistically get to 999 though lol)

[mild storm]

inside each coin counter is a dancing dino

[tropic sage]

woah, getting 999 coins unlocks windows start menu

[gusty kiln]

so we are getting gambling in code rebirth?

ooh no it has to do with beef art hehehe

[wise stag]

well, not entirely

[gusty kiln]

i think?

yeah actually idk what im looking at

[wise stag]

beef's artist is a reference to it but not related to it

this is the new coin counter machine

it's what stores your coins

[gusty kiln]

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[wise stag]

instead of a wallet

you can see me flipping the coin before depositing it in

[gusty kiln]

no more piggy banks and wallets???

[wise stag]

you don't have to be in proximity either

as long as its purchased

yeah they're being reused elsewhere

[gusty kiln]

:o

[wise stag]

wallet is a bigger value coin

and piggy bank was taken by the merchant to store his own money

[gusty kiln]

hehe

[wise stag]

he repossessed my assets 😔

[gusty kiln]

make piggy a rare scrap too, well not actually a scrap but more of a hazard

you can find one inside

and break it

to have lots of money!!!

[wise stag]

that's not a bad idea

@mild storm

[gusty kiln]

:o

i think a scrap would work even better actually

kinda like a gift box

but for coins

piggy has a value, but if you break it you could get even more value! or less......................

[wise stag]

the coins, wallets, etc are considered scrap (but they'll spawn like hazards)

so if you dont have the counter, you can just hold em and bring em back to ship

if you flip a coin without a coin counter, it just flips lol

[mild storm]

we are adding a form of gambling with coins

[gusty kiln]

who would have thought

[gusty kiln]

that way it doesnt replace the scrap pools yeah

but i think piggy would work better as a common scrap thats part of the scrap pool

[hot light]

should make it so if it reaches 1000 coins, the machine breaks and resets to 0 after the next orbit/moon transition

[mild storm]

you wont believe this

another wheel appears and you can go to 9999

[haughty hinge]

Get 999 and the merchant himself shows up to "collect" for evading taxes

[mild storm]

but yeah coins will be easier to get and use, and the merchant will have more reliable deals and interactions, plus more goodies to mess around with

but word of advice

Dont steal.

[hot light]

will it actually get you fired this time?

[mild storm]

he'll come for you

[hot light]

so he becomes a disloyal guardsman?

[wise stag]

the mask bearing hunter

[mild storm]

the company boogey man

[hot light]

waaaaaiiiiit

does he go moon to moon?

[wise stag]

https://tenor.com/view/bell-bearing-hunter-gif-27245555

[hot light]

good shit

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/uwu-skeleton-wheelchair-wow-gif-27408889

[lavish saffron]

Machine breaks and unlocks Greed mode

[wise stag]

best i can do is 10 dimes

[hot light]

someone gets it

[wise stag]

sorry getting back to you late on this, are you around now?

[haughty hinge]

hi

[wise stag]

I'd like to send you a dawnlib build to test, it might've been a bit of a big oversight that I somehow never noticed/never encountered but I believe I fixed it

[haughty hinge]

oh, sure, how do I go about installing it, though?

[wise stag]

I also forgot about this for 4 days and noticed a save-related issue when working on some coderebirth new features where it wasnt loading the save stuff right lol

[wise stag]

ill send a zip, just manually import it through the mod manager

[haughty hinge]

Alrighty

[wise stag]

this didn't immediately have any issues for me, but I don't have a large modpack when testing usually so if this works for you that'd be amazing

[haughty hinge]

It happened with just code birth & dependencies, the clip I showed was only using about 12 mods, so...

Ah good, I have that save backed up with the tablet & jar of scp 999, so can check that right quick

[wise stag]

oh lol, well, it'll still be nice to see if the stuff loads properly for ya now

[haughty hinge]

So... check dawnlib's save system and then the vanilla system, see if both work alright

[wise stag]

yeah, as long as the bug you reported now seems fixed I'd be happy with that

[frosty forum]

Red locust bees be crashin my game

[haughty hinge]

Alright, time to test

...dunno why the icon is like that, but it prob still loads

[mild storm]

Dumbledore said calmly...

[wise stag]

wut

[haughty hinge]

Hover Board is funny at times

[wise stag]

eh gale things

[mild storm]

fun fact the excavators on oxyde are named tractors

[wise stag]

fun fact, hoverboard was gonna get taken out of code rebirth permanently next update due to a unity bug, but i managed to backport the fix for it lol

[haughty hinge]

...right, that save file used the vanilla save, will have to re-gather the tablet & such for the dawnlib save

Vanilla Save: Nope, Oxyde re-locked itself and LIZ-ZIE became ??? in the store when I closed the game and rebooted it, loaded the same file

Checking the dawnlib save system now

@wise stag
What value can I use to ensure that the crashed ship always spawns?

just the 1.00,1.00?

[wise stag]

if you do All - 0.00,1.00 ; 1.00, 1.00

[haughty hinge]

alright

...

what are the chances

[wise stag]

lol did the ship fall down in an inaccessible way?

[haughty hinge]

yes

[wise stag]

LMAO

it's okay i can try testing myself some more too since you're on a pack with just coderebirth lmaoo

[mild storm]

big magnet attracts metal ship

the science checks out

[haughty hinge]

It just floats there

Somehow I didn't get crushed while climbing the ladder, so...

[wise stag]

yeah it doesnt have gravity after it lands this is hilarious

[haughty hinge]

TIL, the crashed ship can damage you if you're near it

...yea, but at least I got the tablet

[wise stag]

lol, yeah i dont remember if it can or cant tbh, i imagine it landed right next to you which is why it damaged you

[haughty hinge]

Yep

back up the save, now to give it a check

huh, cruisergal assembly parts are ??? in the store

...which is weird, I only ticked the box that made the parts avaavible in the shop

[wise stag]

okay after looking up for up to 5 months of DawnLib commits and updates, I might have traced when the whole save problem with the ship upgrades and oxyde started

what you have probably wont work

im abotu to test on my machine if it does (it also failed with what i gave you)

[haughty hinge]

alright

[haughty hinge]

Yup, the options re-locked when I rebooted the game and reloaded the file under dawnlib's save

So both save systems are bork'd

[wise stag]

welp, hopefully what i just did fixes it for me then, otherwise I'm in for another few hours of figuring this stuff out

the weird part is, I know it worked at some point, so there has to be a point in time where some code was accidently removed

[haughty hinge]

wonder why the cruisergal assemly parts don't show up correctly in the store when enabled

The rest do show, at least, so...

[wise stag]

did you disable the unlock requirements on all of them?

[haughty hinge]

Oh, that explains it

wait, no

The other 4 parts don't have the box ticked to have the unlocked requirement disabled

...yet they show in the store

Another bug(tm)?

[wise stag]

might be, it'll take me a bit to try and figure that all out honestly lol, starting with oxyde saving

[haughty hinge]

I wonder if it'll lock if I tick the boxes...

Ticking those boxes didn't turn them into ???, in case it was somehow reversed

[wise stag]

it should auto unlock em if you do, that's what i have when testing usually (which is how the save problem went undetected for so long)

[haughty hinge]

Ah

[wise stag]

it should all be fine now :p

finally

lol

[haughty hinge]

the unlocks save when you reboot the game and reload the file now for vanilla & dawn save systems?

[wise stag]

yeah, (assuming you exit the lobby before rebooting)

[haughty hinge]

neat

[wild oyster]

Can I bomb it to get coins back

Wait crap somebody made an Isaac dono machine joke already

[cedar plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/mewgenics-skeleton-edmund-mcmillen-the-skeleton-eyes-gif-6779360662907471390

[wise stag]

and the goat pulls off a reverse sweep (idk if anyone else keeps up with mcsr ranked playoffs)

[gusty kiln]

Wtf is that

[wise stag]

minecraft speedrunning ranked

tournament that happens every season, we're on season 9 rn

it's been going on since last weekend, tomorrow is finale

[haughty hinge]

@wise stag
In my 190 mod instance, the save bug is no more. Oxyde & SEA-M1 remained unlocked upon reloading the file.

(Made a back-up first, in case there was still there)

[wise stag]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[gusty kiln]

im so excited for code rebirth README update

[frozen sierra]

same

[mild storm]

Code rebirth 1.5.0

• updated readme

-# not out yet

[reef wolf]

Code 1.5.5.5.5.5.0

Fishe

Sea dogl

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-seal-seal-dance-seal-dancing-seal-seals-gif-17832446272461573261

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-gif-6274474972916726262

[mild storm]

The company does not tolerate thievery of assets.
Perpetrators will suffer immediate punishment and fines.

[feral cape]

You wouldn’t steal a car

[woeful solar]

Piracy. Is. THEFT!

[wild oyster]

There're no stolen goods in the ship sir, these were all gifts from the people of Rend

[cedar plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-shusher-bat-staff-rod-gif-8855179341029231927

[reef wolf]

skuhdoosh

[pallid dagger]

helo i finall y got around to trying to set up the crates

expected the wooden crate to give stuff related to the moon's scrap

but it just gave 2-4 store items

intended? i thought it was metal ones that gave store stuff

[steel basalt]

its the other way around

wooden = store
metal = scrap

[fresh thunder]

At one point in the mod, it was the other way around iirc
So that might be why you're confused

[gusty kiln]

Immersion wise it makes more sense with metal being items and wooden being scrap, but gameplay wise it makes more sense how it its rn

[pallid dagger]

ooooh

i see

ill rethink a couple things on my moon balancing then lol i assumed too early

[wise stag]

I will never understand discord putting out notifs for status changes

[woeful solar]

I keep seeing beef when he's changing his

And yeah, that you can see mine at 1st second is discouraging me from constantly changing it for no reason lol

[wild oyster]

Discord notifies me of status changes and vc joining but only for a single person, nobody else

[mild storm]

No , in lore wooden crates hauled equipment and machinery parts while safes were used to bring back valuables

Silly cheese

[gusty kiln]

Bad design

Depends on the item

Most scrap is just that, scrap

But a few are far better

[mild storm]

We'll put hazard parts in crates so you can make your very own microwave carts and ac units

[knotty lynx]

Put full ones in there. Open it up and get blasted in the face by a microwave

[cedar plinth]

ikea simulator

[timid viper]

is there a way to see how much money the wallet has?

[cedar plinth]

Scanning the wallet on the ground

[timid viper]

ohh my bad

thanks

[gusty kiln]

is there a way to eat the beeff

im hungry

[cedar plinth]

:[

[mild storm]

Poll time

[mild storm]

for those who dont want cactus inside whats the main issue? Lack of counter? Too hard to avoid? Looks weird? lemme know or perish

Both options at the end include an Hp reduction to the budling for easier kill

Had to remake poll to make that clear

Also budlings will be eaten by redwoods next update so keep that in mind

[untold star]

Immersion(?)
I've lyet to see them, so i just have the idea in my noggin that a cactus inside a building that's meant to be rooted into the ground, it confounds me.

i've yet*

[mild storm]

its meant to root its arm into the ground and grows cacti out of the ground

sort of like tunneling plant roots

[untold star]

So it stays outside and then spreads across the landscape from beneath the soil/sand?

[untold star]

Ah, so yeah.

[mild storm]

basically

[untold star]

i suppose, that makes more sense, but then my brain's like "will there be cracks or lil bits of rubble at the base of the new cactus where it's burst through the floor(?)" to which i assume there wont be. It's just an immersion thing to me (i have a bad habit of overthinking things)

[mild storm]

we did plan on adding crack decals in the next update

[untold star]

then i shall indeed change my vote o:
My one concern now, since ive yet to come across them.. is you mentioned they snipe players.. in long corridors, will that makes it impossible to barrel through or dodge shots?

[mild storm]

no snipe as in they hit you from afar

they root somewhere outside and spawn cacti around you

poor wording of my part

[untold star]

Na, more than likely me. ive always had some issues understanding things sometimes, even when they're perfectly explained.

[untold star]

so the cacti arent actually stationary entities inside?
They're a projectile "spawned in" by the cactus outside, yes?

[mild storm]

the budling finds a spot outside, roots its arm and then cacti will emerge out of the ground, stay there for a bit acting as obstacles and then retract

they emerge around players, not directly on them

and can be broken

[untold star]

if anything, would it make more sense or maybe make a difference for the rate at which it strikes at a player.. to be dependant on how close the cactus is in relation to a doorway to a facility (both front and exits)?
Im certainly not aware of how to make mods, but i imagine this might make balance harder, yet more interesting (so the closer you get to a cactus, the more frequently it can strike)

[untold star]

ah okay. i understand now.

[feral cape]

Budlings making cacti inside is a little immersion breaking on some surfaces like catwalks since the cacti just appears visibly below the catwalk and rises above it. It’s also kind of an annoying enemy. It isn’t hard to counter since it rarely blocks a path and if it does you can just hit it with a shovel or run through it in an emergency. It doesn’t really build interesting gameplay to just have cacti near you every ten seconds or so that isn’t threatening 9 times out of 10.

Also some of the time on larger maps like offense there’s a good chance they’ll be far out of your way so it takes extra time to find and kill them that just isn’t worth it since if you have a weapon you can get rid of cacti outside instantly instead of spending a lot of time and risking your life to prevent it the rest of the day.

It’s also an almost entirely negligible threat in multiplayer since if everyone’s spread out you might get a cactus every 30-60 seconds that most of the time won’t be an issue. In single player however the spawnrates are the same as it would be spread across multiple players meaning it’s much more punishing in solo. It’d be nice if it spawned cacti more often the more players there are. Starting a lot slower than current, going back to normal at around 2-3 and being much more often at 4-6.

[mild storm]

so potentially leaning towards a more dangerous monster that makes you want to kill it? Could be rarer and faster, maybe as the day goes by it gets faster

so easy early on but the more you ignore it the worst it gets

[wise stag]

I kinda like it being a mostly harmless enemy, an annoyance at best, the giants all fill a role

driftwood is super aggressive to everything

redwood is only aggressive to other big entities but isnt aggressive at all to the player, almost 0 threat

the cactus budling is just an annoyance that will trickle your health down at best over long periods of time

but him being more punishing the lower the player count does give me some stuff to think about, whether he should be scaled for more players or scaled down for less

[untold star]

reminding me of the Sea Urchins from Surfaced.

If anything, (and if it wasnt stated already) maybe after a while, the budlings release seeds which spawn more budlings(?).. so (after a short growth cycle) the later you wait, the more cacti spawn around you making them not only more likely to block your pathing, but also make it more difficult to get rid of when moving around due to needing to break more cacti.

or it's possible maybe the budling simply grows bigger and tankier resulting in it spawning either more cacti or more frequently over time until it reaches a maximum stage in its growth., THis would force players to seek it out before it becomes a unignorable issue (if thye want to risk such, that is)

[tropic sage]

working off of this point you made here, that was actually one of my plights with the cactus growing inside. Even with the explanation, it can't help but feel off. Just throwing out an idea though, I think it could be cool, if it wasn't too much of a hassle, to have the cactus that grow inside be more similar to thorny roots/brambles, while the ones outside can remain the typical cactus. This way, it feels more thematically appropriate with the idea of (usually) underground interiors

[mild storm]

I ended the poll cuz its kinda useless and too simplistic for our issue

Instead id rather gather general feedback and ideas for the cacti and budling

Gameplay wise, visuals, ect

[wild oyster]

I want him to stop interrupting me when I'm trying to watch videos in the Manager's cabin

(Besides that one time I've never encountered him)

[cedar plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/19-pMYpK4dw

[timid viper]

How does curve weight works? I see the default string of values but im not understanding

[wise stag]

Readme should have an explanation, check the hazard configs part

[ashen peak]

change cactus budling to a sea lion, problem solved

[glad harness]

Is the Halloween update ever gonna end

[hot light]

https://tenor.com/view/pumpkin-spice-gif-9419446476681023120

[gusty kiln]

Can the poll be opened again

I didnt vote

[vestal python]

whats your vote cheese

[gusty kiln]

Uhmmm probably bread me thinks

[mild storm]

Fumo edit your message if you love melanie

[tawny hare]

no

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[mild storm]

Nice spelling fumo

vote is useless give feedback or i will make it spawn 500 cacti a second

[tawny hare]

wawawa stop yapping

[mild storm]

Nice edited message

[mild storm]

Coop and seethe

[ashen peak]

cope seethe mald

[mild storm]

thank you sealionling

[gusty kiln]

y

[ashen peak]

baaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-gif-12352186724248149394

[tropic sage]

😮

[pallid dagger]

hey im trying the monarchs out to see how i can implement them in my pack, they get in the ship when the doors are open and kinda slam you to death

is this intended?

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-fred-table-body-slam-fred2-gif-19611734

[tropic sage]

smash

[gusty kiln]

RODIGO

[mild storm]

no

[gusty kiln]

[untold star]

well.. building off of @tropic sages idea, im thinking something similar to those little buds in the movie Jumanji that shoot out little barbs that put the girl to sleep..

Maybe instead of a cactus that breaks through, it changes a small area to have barbs growing around, and there could even be a possible chance for a "mutated budling" that shoots out toxic thorns that can maybe cause either some form of visual distortion, speed debuff, small DoT (i expect that a DoT would be too much for what you're wanting to do)

or.. (and this could be a toggleable option) maybe the lil thorn can cause a small cactus bud to sprout out of a crewmate, which would damage the crewmate slowly over time (or when they move a certain distance).
Either the crewmate themself (or someone else) can iinteract with over a channeled interaction time to pull out, but this would/could cause flat damage to the one pulling it out (you're grabbing a cactus with your hands. come on), but also giving the crewmate(s) something they can sell for an amount of scrap.

Additionally, of course.. the lil mutated budling, if it's killed wit ha weapon/tool.. the barbs can start to recede until there's nothing left. This last part is inspired by the "Rats" mod that adds grates that spawn rats which spread out more and more as time goes on (to a set amount of max rats dependent on the config). So it can be a issue that Crew Mates can either ignore and let get worse over time.. or deal with ASAP and risk taking a bit of damage.

Heck, if you do go wit=h the thorn-spitting buds.. to counter the idea of someone having no choice, and taking damage one way or another.. you can add a pre-fire particle of the mutated budling starting to waft out pollen as a warning (like how turrets made a noise before firing) so the crewmate can dodge it before (after a cooldown) the mutated budling is ready to fire again.

The barbs can also do damage after spreading over walls & ceilings (but popssibly never the floor(?) of course, to allow crewmates to move around or maybe implement a new item you can buy from the shop, i dunno.. "Steel Insoles"? that prevent such damage, even if kept inside the waist bag) OR they can just be visual, with mutated budlings spawning a certain distance from one another throughout the length of the invasive barbs/vines

There's just so much potental

[tropic sage]

OH I SEE

WHAT IF I BUILD OFF OF YOU AGAIN

[untold star]

Do it!!!

DO IIIIIIIITTTTTTT

[tropic sage]

RAHHHH

[untold star]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[tropic sage]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cute-dog-shaking-dog-puppy-cute-puppy-gif-25485866

[untold star]

They look so cold 💔

But yeah!
Im totally interested in hearing how you wanna ping pong off of one anothers ideas!

[dry ermine]

nice pfp @tropic sage

[tropic sage]

NO

[mild storm]

[tropic sage]

PLEASE KILL ME

[untold star]

D:

[gusty kiln]

the end

[tawny hare]

your day not so great huh

[mild storm]

rodigo

[gusty kiln]

Yayy

[haughty hinge]

Do these monitors mean anything? Though one of them shows the Majora's Moon

[woeful solar]

nah just random stinky people written on it

if you take a look at lower corner of the monitor

[haughty hinge]

ah

[wise stag]

Easter eggs of me and Rodrigos friends

And some other community members here and there

[woeful solar]

and the main creator of the mod

mu

[wise stag]

I don't think mu actually has a monitor

Atleast I don't remember her having one

[wise stag]

Oh well, I guess she did

Time to delete it

[knotty lynx]

You can’t delete the dev of CodeRebirth!

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-treason-star-wars-emperor-gif-8547403

[wise stag]

Watch me

Idk how long I'll keep that status notification around but I like it @tropic sage

Nice pfp btw

[reef wolf]

im dead

in the showr

[pallid dagger]

gameplay wise cause the immersion bit was already talked about, id make the cacti just last 5-8 seconds

outside they have more business staying with how much area you have, but a cacti in a corridor that stays foreeeever is kinda meh

even if it doesnt deal lethal damage on its own it still doesnt feel that good that your only option is to go around it or to take damage

(unless shovel)

[wild oyster]

Cacti spawning in doorways/caves/Factory catwalks would just be ass

[pallid dagger]

yep

i wouldnt change a lot more

as for the outside the "sniping" can be a bit overwhelming so to make it just a little less annoying why not give it like, a max of cacti it throws at someone before it changes target or takes a long rest?

ive only been testing my pack alone so far so if this is a thing already lmk

[wild oyster]

What's the motivation behind reworking the budling anyway? Too annoying?

[tropic sage]

do you also listen to Melanie blush saying, "I cry," for music

[reef wolf]

why the fuck are you lunxara now

[knotty lynx]

Why aren’t you?

[ashen peak]

Beanara

[knotty lynx]

Lunie? Lunxie?

[tender kayak]

you literally gave me a selection of screenshots to have my name on and that's the one i chose smh

how'd you forget 💀

(or ig fair enough shit memory it's funny)

[reef wolf]

who pingled me

[fresh thunder]

@wise stag random thought
Perhaps with the coin rework making the piggy bank pointless (?), you could repurpose the models as a new scrap?
Like a decent value scrap that, upon taking damage from a player or enemies, breaks and then you dont get it anymore

[gusty kiln]

i already said that :3

i mean my idea was different

have piggy as scrap, so you can either have it as a valuable item, or break it and get coins

[mild storm]

Piggy bank already got another use

[gusty kiln]

OK

[mild storm]

That was me stoopid

[mild storm]

General dislike of its mechanics and it being not as interesting to play against

[wild oyster]

Ah

[mild storm]

Alot of cr monsters are unique and experimental, and budling is probably the most hated

[tender kayak]

okay idr which of you two it was but yea

[mild storm]

🥀 i gotta deal with tjese short term memory loss peeps 😔

[wild oyster]

I figured he was supposed to be more of a minor annoyance enemy like the Spore lizard

Could you make him spawn like

Evil cacti

[cold zealot]

@wise stag @mild storm long overdue re-render

[steel basalt]

monarch budling

[cold zealot]

much better than my last one

plus one no mask

[wild oyster]

They explode/puff out after a short duration/with proximity, spraying the immediate area with spikes.
I'm not a game designer so idk if it'll be good but it will be fun to watch people suffer against it

[mild storm]

I mean we thought of trying differwnt shaped cacti like shorter ones and a bunch of other shapes you go around differently

So its not just the tall ones

[knotty lynx]

Really fat?

Like, full hallway obstructing fat?

I think that sounds like a good idea

[wild oyster]

cactus shaped like the bully from baldis basics