Code Rebirth [V§O∆X∆O§]

[ashen peak]

peak

what

[mild storm]

look at its back

[tawny hare]

Still need to do 100 gal list 😔

[mild storm]

true

[ashen peak]

i couldnt i blew up after taking a screenshot lmao

[mild storm]

lol it has grapes on its back

[ashen peak]

thats really good lmao
https://tenor.com/view/bat-fmdoll-gif-26724589

[wise stag]

diff of rewriting the tornado code lol

ill be updating the model and visuals too with rodrigo's help

[trim ivy]

Just been taking a little break from lethal. I plan on bringing back the lethal chaos very soon.

[white horizon]

I locked myself in a safe 💀

[modern cradle]

let's goooo i've been hoping for a visual update to the tornados for a while

[atomic seal]

Is there a way to config the amount of fake crates and safes

[mild storm]

no its defined chances

Urchin of the storm

[eternal pebble]

@wise stag

Anti air shoots you even if you are a little bit higher than the turret

Any way of changing that?

It's kinda dumb since you can just be on the ship and get nuked

[mild storm]

thats an issue with the tags of the terrain

[eternal pebble]

So that means...?

[mild storm]

its not really an issue we've had, just be more careful i guess

[eternal pebble]

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-liquid-cup-cute-gif-5803945508306517547

[eternal pebble]

I think I have a clip

[mild storm]

also thats funny

[eternal pebble]

Yeah funny at the start

Then it gets kinda

[mild storm]

annoying. no way

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924770593503596616/1294028804305588254/eLJXoOEQ.gif

[eternal pebble]

And there's no way to disable it in game?

I saw there's like a little computer with a keyboard

[mild storm]

no, none of the hazards

we havent gotten to that

plus if you look all the hazards are blue screened and clearly not in a normal operational state

[eternal pebble]

Anyways I guess I'll just disable that one

[mild storm]

you can lower their configs

[eternal pebble]

Spawn rate?

Or what

[mild storm]

we have advanced configs that are graphs meaning they can be variable

[eternal pebble]

And anywhere where I can see the boxes loot pool?

Or it's just any buyable item

[mild storm]

pretty sure its random, theres configs for blacklisting things though

[eternal pebble]

Ok

[mild storm]

any equipment

for wooden

any scrap for safes

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/nepunator-cat-toast-toaster-gif-15834004032941826633

this is a mystery tool we'll be saving for later

[cold zealot]

is the puppeteer intentionally as stunnable as it is via attacks?

[mild storm]

no, xu explained to me why it happens though

[cold zealot]

ok i was wondering that

thats a bit scary to know tbh

it will be much harder to kill them when theyre fixed

[tawny hare]

chat help me im fighting for my life here

[mild storm]

coward

[tender kayak]

dying to know the context

[eternal pebble]

Toasty

[eternal pebble]

Let me talk with him

He has a spanish name

I talk spanish...

[tawny hare]

@mild storm you are spanish now

[mild storm]

si senor

[eternal pebble]

Rodrigo and Rodriguez

Totally spanish

[mild storm]

says rodigo

[eternal pebble]

Check the screenshot

It says Rodrigo

[mild storm]

[eternal pebble]

What

[hot light]

no [[Mounds Bars]], so must be enemy

[eternal pebble]

What.

[mild storm]

enemy

mlem

[hot light]

im guessing mineshaft "boss monster"?

[tender kayak]

why does it have shoulder turrets

[mild storm]

yall aint guessing what it do

[hot light]

grab you and bring you back to the ship 🙂

[tender kayak]

...with the turrets?

The turrets shoot out lil harpoons that grab players

[hot light]

shoots out fox tongues

[tender kayak]

LOL

Ah yeah I forgot there was a vanilla enemy that effectively did that

Shit I gotta get original

[hot light]

no longer vanilla anyway

[tender kayak]

i guess so

hence "was"

tho maybe i should've emphasised that "was" to make it more clear

[hot light]

readin too much into it. all good

[tender kayak]

🤔 Maybe it could be like an indoor old bird

Actually no maybe that's a bit Much

[hot light]

Grand Armory handles it juuuuuust fine

[thorny shuttle]

train

oh wait that's a lamp

[mild storm]

all ill say for that creature is that its adding use to a code rebirth feature

[hot light]

hell yea we're gonna cut it down like a tree

[tender kayak]

yooo i can feed it leftover grapes

[ashen peak]

it gives you a million dollars if you play all the zort instruments around it

[tender kayak]

EVEN BETTER

[thorny shuttle]

biomes

[tender kayak]

it eats biomes and turns the colour of the biome

it likes being colourful

[hot light]

it targets the bald man on the ship

if it's purchased

or glitch if he's playing

[ashen peak]

real

[thorny shuttle]

oh wait

maybe

[tender kayak]

shines light at him and flashbangs everyone in the immediate vicinity

[hot light]

[tawny hare]

https://tenor.com/ftCvGLAkKcc.gif

[cold zealot]

candlebearer from pressure

[tawny hare]

Ok chat i will say what it is || flash turret reskin ||

|| /j ||

As i always saying im 100% reliable source of info

[ashen peak]

outside enemy?

[ashen peak]

cr gals touch grass for the first time

[mild storm]

rate the setup

[tawny hare]

9/10

[eternal pebble]

wtf

[tawny hare]

-1 because fish

[mild storm]

what about now?

[tawny hare]

999/10

More gals + destroy fish

[small storm]

Is Nature's Mace supposed to do this? ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297721712716284077/1328952237346783333/Lethal_Company_-_2025-01-14_9-58-45_PM.mp4?ex=678892b8&is=67874138&hm=9a8b800bb134d02a429a5515ba4440bba8cfd422d96842590415e853e8b23aa4&||

[mild storm]

yes if you have the debug config to spawn hazards

[wise stag]

someone (host) activated the debug hazard spawning config 🤣

it makes coderebirth weapons spawn hazards on hit

[small storm]

got it. thanks

[mild storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924770593503596616/1294028804305588254/eLJXoOEQ.gif

[tawny hare]

https://tenor.com/view/teh-cat-comin-gif-18402983533302810716

[dry ermine]

[small storm]

I read the config and thought it meant it would log extra info about hazards spawning 😆

[tawny hare]

read better next time

[valid drum]

Looks like the fps is smoother too

Pretty cool

[hot light]

wasnt even playing and it felt like i was the one jumping. excellent work

[ashen peak]

imagine that in vr

[ashen peak]

https://tenor.com/view/nep-nepunator-cat-mr-potato-head-truck-gif-15799733381530027367

[opaque spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-angry-pee-scary-toy-story-evil-wega-gif-8713755634160984493

[plucky sedge]

what happened to him..

[opaque spoke]

Wega

[pine ember]

What am I even looking at?

[mild storm]

The setup

[fresh thunder]

Dunno if its been mentioned before, but another thing with meteor shower/windy is they're much easier to deal with on larger moons as its all spread out
Whereas on small moons like Triskelion or something its cursed

I think a variety of moon sizes in a pack, combo'd with reasonable weather scrap value bonuses and making it a rarer weather normally works well

[night forge]

Yeah I’m not really sure how they couldfix this
Like how do you determine map size

Is that possible? Maybe I’m not sure

[fresh thunder]

Not really
I dont think it needs "fixing" though

i would argue most weather has map size as a factor

Stormy and Flooded is more pain on larger maps, since you're gonna be slowed down more

Its just interesting its the only few weathers where being a smaller map makes it worse
And i think thats fine

[mild storm]

He got a spun from the mica wake

[night forge]

Some maps are straight up unplayable in my experience

[summer plover]

help

[tawny hare]

no

[hot light]

and before you say please

no .u.

[fresh thunder]

Yes. In our pack i would say Triskelion/Maritopia Windy or Meteor Shower is incredibly messed up
Thats what the weather blacklist exists for though

Theres a reason you dont get Flooded on Titan in vanilla

[fresh thunder]

(Still we are masochistic and keep it enabled cuz of the scrap value but those who dislike it should proly just blacklist imo)

[fresh thunder]

...hmm actually
Come to think of it
Might be a smart idea to have it blacklisted automatically on some small custom moons like Triskelion
@wise stag
Kinda like how Heatwave in LE is automatically whitelisted to just Desert-ish moons or whatever

[mild storm]

We'll make you make config defaults at this point

https://tenor.com/view/vro-vro-cat-cat-tole-tole-tole-tole-cat-gif-3583064468191565130

Get to work

[mild storm]

We got alot of stuff to default

[fresh thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

Jokes aside i wouldnt mind helping

[mild storm]

I should make default weights for our enemies

Manor lord and janitor

[fresh thunder]

You mean per moon?

[mild storm]

Per vanilla moon ye

I aint touching modded

[fresh thunder]

Makes sense
Dine ik is very goofy and for some reason uses extremely low weights for all enemies, hence why modded enemies there tend to go silly
Tbh you could also do some notable modded moons for each
Like Manor Lord on Solace for example, proly a very low weight since its a fairly chill moon

[mild storm]

Manor lord would use similar weights to the mansion enemies

Janitor probably more like hoarding bugs

Duck goes everywhere

Because he waddles

Jimothy idk for his weights yet, we cant release him yet cuz hes dependant on what zaggy is working on

[fresh thunder]

Thats pretty much what i did, but i kept janitor to more facility-ish moons
And Manor lord i still kept to a slightly lower weight than other mansion enemies since its a bit more like a miniboss of sorts
But then i say, increase it on Auralis since its the last snowy moon etc.
Duck i keep at a super low weight on all moons, as to me its kinda like a ghost girl type thing. Also because his appearance is a lil jarring so i like to keep it much rarer, but thats just personal preference, default i imagine would be higher

Tho i then increase the duck weight more as it gets closer to endgame moons

Since the scrap from the duck can be sold, it also balances out nicely there
High weight on a more chill early game moon would be kinda free from selling the grapes and not much else to deal with
Higher weight later game means the loot provided isnt as impactful to the balance since there is plenty other scraps and other enemies to be dealing with, as well as larger interiors on average

but again thats probably just more me personally

[mild storm]

The duck is eldritch in nature lol, very powerful, messes with employees for his amusement and has pretty gruesome kills

His bestiary also shows a bit of this

https://tenor.com/view/ducksong-duck-waddle-gotanygrapes-gif-5019876

[fresh thunder]

ye
I think for us, having it very very low weight means you kinda forget its a thing, like ghost girl a bit
So when it does then suddenly appear its more startling

One mistake i made was not blacklisting it from the meltdown spawns
I regretted that alot

[night forge]

oh this was why my metors never left

at one point the default config must have been 1

[fresh thunder]

^

yep

[night forge]

i am smart

[fresh thunder]

Smartxrez

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[night forge]

code rebirth more like stinky

gottem

[mild storm]

No update swept

[opaque spoke]

Smartxazz

[fresh thunder]

So to my understanding, rn the Windy code is being rebirthed

[cobalt mango]

nature is beautiful

[mild storm]

visuals as well

[night forge]

yippie

[mild storm]

so far regular tornado looks promising

[night forge]

would be cool if windy arrived later in the day configurable

[fresh thunder]

Code Rebirth and Visual Rebirth

[night forge]

like how meteors leave later in the day

:3

[mild storm]

i mean i was suggesting xu give players between 1-3 in game hours at the start of the day before a tornado starts

and then we could have a tornado siren

[night forge]

yeah

that is basically my thoughts

[fresh thunder]

[wanton dune]

can i see the new tornado

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-attack-gif-8318612315233716848

not yet

[wanton dune]

i wont tell

@fresh thunder said theres a new taornata

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-cute-bunny-cute-eating-gif-4445488551750069127

[night forge]

it was posted here earlier lol

or am i dementia wtf

[mild storm]

not the visuals

[night forge]

I know i saw it somewhere
I saw something I swear dude

losingmy marbles

[mild storm]

Manor lord
ExperimentationLevel: 2,AssuranceLevel: 5,VowLevel: 5,OffenseLevel: 10,MarchLevel: 10,AdamanceLevel: 10,RendLevel: 50,DineLevel: 80,TitanLevel: 20,ArtificeLevel: 60,EmbrionLevel: 10,Modded:10
Scrap-E
ExperimentationLevel: 20,AssuranceLevel: 20,VowLevel: 10,OffenseLevel: 20,MarchLevel: 10,AdamanceLevel: 5,RendLevel: 10,DineLevel: 10,TitanLevel: 60,ArtificeLevel: 80,EmbrionLevel: 90,Modded:20
Redwoodtitan
ExperimentationLevel: 1,AssuranceLevel: 10,VowLevel: 90,OffenseLevel: 20,MarchLevel: 90,AdamanceLevel: 60,RendLevel: 5,DineLevel: 10,TitanLevel: 2,ArtificeLevel: 30,EmbrionLevel: 10,Modded:50

Heres some defaults i did quickly, let me know what you think

[thorny shuttle]

janitor march 5?

[mild storm]

i mixed up vow and offense

made them lower on the forest moons, other moons generally follow old birds or where facility spawns

[thorny shuttle]

O

[tender kayak]

i understand now

zort's peak

[ashen peak]

honestly, thats trash

[pallid dagger]

1.3x scrap on windy maritopia got me like https://tenor.com/view/what-can-i-say-except-you're-welcome-gif-10724500870782237719

[patent ember]

what does the janitor do?

[pallid dagger]

get mad if yuo litter

[patent ember]

and what does the trash cans do?

[fresh thunder]

TRUE
We love it
Its fucked but its profitable, its entirely on us
We never get mad at the weather

[pallid dagger]

||when you throw items (litter) near it it gets mad and throws you in a trash can||

[fresh thunder]

Can always just route elsewhere

[pallid dagger]

Unknown/None?

betaweathertweaks my beloved

[patent ember]

what would happen to the janitor if I disable the trashcans?

[pallid dagger]

based on what i read some time ago if im remembering correctly

||itll throw you where the trashcans are meant to be, it just wont render em||

[fresh thunder]

We have Meteor at +50% and Windy +45%

[patent ember]

hmm

thanks

[night forge]

lc office issue lol

the hazard nodes are fucked up

[mild storm]

Lc office doesnt take out the trash

[unique yew]

What do the trash cans do?

[ashen peak]

scroll up a tiny bit lol

[ashen peak]

.

[mild storm]

What does the trash can do?

They spawn everywhere

[ashen peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lunaistabby-car-xmas-new-year-gif-1941835686018742492

[night forge]

me

[fresh thunder]

Sounds good, i would have to maybe compare to the weights of vanilla enemies

[mild storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924770593503596616/1294028804305588254/eLJXoOEQ.gif

nuh uh

[night forge]

imo redwood shouldnt have a default of modded:50 due the nature of it causing issues on some moons

where it doesnt fit

[mild storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924770593503596616/1294028804305588254/eLJXoOEQ.gif

50 is its current default everywhere

[night forge]

yeah

[mild storm]

also i dont deal with modded

[lavish saffron]

Equality

[night forge]

modded just has like issues cuz bros so big

[night forge]

yeah and i dont agree with that but shrug

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-liquid-cup-cute-gif-5803945508306517547

[ashen peak]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-gif-22066197

[cold zealot]

hey cool discovery made

when a puppeteer is giving you a voodoo doll, it makes you not considered as looking at coil heads

[mild storm]

youre considered in special animation with enemy

its a special state that makes other enemies supposed to ignore you

[cold zealot]

well i do get that

just kinda irritating for the case of coil heads

[honest basalt]

Was purple kill?

Also about the WIP tornado rework, I think having dustclouds would go hard

[wise stag]

next update im adding the 5 stages of mel

[mild storm]

Mel cant escape me 🦉

[cold zealot]

first legitimate puppeteer kill without imperium set up

i took damage to a thumper i was fighting, and this guy came into the shovels attack range lmao

[wise stag]

Nice

After the next update and its bug fixes I'll probably take a week or so break to catch up on commissions, play with friends (recently started a terraria world with @tropic sage because I beat her up)

Next update should add the reworked and better performance tornado, a new enemy, who's part of the clean up crew, better performance from any coderebirth moving AI like enemies and the gals and they'll be smarter and choose what entrances to use to reach you fastest, and probably other things I forgor about

The tornado throwing will also be more fun, won't throw you out of the map, won't insta kill you, but it'll bang your head a couple times

[hazy thicket]

I don't say to hate or anything just curious, Is there a reason your mod has kinda a blend between seemingly reallyyy vanilla tailored content and then like the other stuff? Is it mostly just convenience in having all your stuff in one place or do you feel like it's all intended to be one cohesive kinda thing

[cold zealot]

i mean
i dont really think content expansion mods have to follow any specific rules of immersion

[hazy thicket]

didn't say it did, hence me asking intent 😄

[tropic sage]

exCUSE me, we beat each other up, it's mutual

[wise stag]

It's a bit of both, it's very convenient for me to keep it all in one mod, but I know some stuff isn't very vanilla tailored, the main goal is that they're fun, stuff like the biomes and ambient enemies are disabled by default because they were early messing around and meaningless additions, but the goal of everything else is for someone to just want to have it around, which sometimes leads it to being vanilla tailored like the 7 hazards and the puppeteer (and ironically enough the meteor shower), but then some stuff I'm adding like Jimothy will do something so crazy that people might hate it or love it entirely

[cold zealot]

i mean the cleanup crew fits vanilla pretty good

the puppeteer is the best vanilla matching though

[tropic sage]

I like to think you stopped typing to check if it was me

[wise stag]

For sure, the janitor also relates to stuff like the hoarding bug in vanilla already, but jimothy will make people baffled.
He just also happens to have very complicated pathing stuff and was finished a while ago but for the sakes of having a bug free experience I've been waiting on zaggy to do stuffs

[wise stag]

Lol I already know it was

[wise stag]

But also, you hung your queen towards the end and screwed yourself, accept your loss, I won you lost

[hazy thicket]

Fair fair

I don't say this with any suggestion to change anything but just an opinion for reference,

The weathers and flash turrets are insta locks in my friends casual modpack (puppet looks interesting too just haven't tried it) but all the gal stuff is insta disabled

Just a very interesting blend of stuff me and my friend group look for absolutely love and absolutely have no interest in

a lot of mods we use kinda hover in the middle

[cold zealot]

i really only would want the puppeteer to be its own separate mod cause its really good

(and the snow globe deep down but thats not really a whole lot)

[wise stag]

Oh for sure I get that, the gals main strength for me is that in every single one I learned atleast a couple new skills, that's the reason I still make em (and made sure I only agreed to 4 functioning ones)

The first gal challenged all my pathfinding skills in LC and making it work performatively and in a way that makes sense

The second one had me dabble in some shader stuff for a hazard/enemy scan effect

Anytime I make anything in coderebirth, its to try something new

The 4 instruments I wanted to see if I could sync up audioclips that are playing, and it was actually fairly easy, it was just a field in the audiosource

The janitor is pure hell, its pathfinding was really annoying because he only moves in straight lines and most of its animations are layered so I can control each side of his treads

Putting up with interiors like toy store, where the agent believes there's a path, but the agent refuses to path because of horribly placed/wrongly used obstacles/modifiers was a paaaain, but I enjoyed jt

[hazy thicket]

We love to see it

[wise stag]

Yee, everything in coderebirth has something like that, which is probably why I'll redo the hoverboard and wallet, their code was created with wrong assumptions from the beginning, like that I NEED them to be grabbableobjects, which is a whole mess

I also love the tornado rewrite, everything is handled on the localplayers end, cuz movement stuff was always handled like that by zeekerss anyway

I just hope i can get the right visual look without spamming particle effects to hell and back

[thorny shuttle]

Are the different effects staying?

[wise stag]

Yeah, they'll be more refined

Water is staying mostly the same, windy is turning into a healing strong tornado (but stay too long and you get launched and lose health overall), fire is taking inspiration from helldivers, grey is staying as a classic tornado, electric might be changed

I'm forgetting a colour

[thorny shuttle]

That's chill

Blood

[wise stag]

Right

That one might occasionally randomly heal or damage all entities outside within a larger radius

Me and Rodriguez will mess around with em

The worry is just getting it visually right, which I think we did

[wary storm]

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
VoxxWeatherPlugin.Weathers.BaseWeather.get_IsActive () (at ./src/Behaviours/Weathers/BaseWeatherClasses.cs:10)
VoxxWeatherPlugin.Patches.SnowPatches.IsSnowActive () (at ./src/Patches/SnowPatches.cs:491)
VoxxWeatherPlugin.Patches.SnowPatches.FrostbiteLatePostfix (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB __instance) (at ./src/Patches/SnowPatches.cs:175)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::LateUpdate>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::LateUpdate>?-1187735042(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
CodeRebirth.src.Patches.PlayerControllerBPatch.PlayerControllerB_LateUpdate (On.GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB+orig_LateUpdate orig, GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB self) (at ./src/Patches/PlayerControllerBPatch.cs:108)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::LateUpdate>?1106449732(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

What is it referring to?

[wise stag]

@grave cairn is broken pls fix

[thorny shuttle]

does this mod add the Switch 2

[wise stag]

What

[thorny shuttle]

the Nintendo Switch 2

[wise stag]

No

[thorny shuttle]

damn

[pallid dagger]

dev self insert

(im jkkkk)

soz

[fresh thunder]

If there isnt any more plans to do anything with the Ambient enemies or Biomes thing, i think removing it from the mod fully wouldn't be a bad idea
Its just kinda bloat, even if it can be disabled so its not being loaded it could still be worth pulling fully

[knotty lynx]

Ye best not be removing snailcat

I’ve not messed with the biome stuff but I think ambient creatures can be cool

[cold zealot]

well

while disabling it may disable the caching of it

the data of all the disabled stuff is still stored on your computer

so, its not really only the caching

its still commendable that it doesnt cache to begin with though, i really wish more mods like usualscrap did this

[hazy thicket]

most don’t because it can be a pain and usually isn’t worth the trouble

[fresh thunder]

Yes
Hence why i think a full removal isnt a bad idea

[night forge]

Yayayayayayyayy!

[night forge]

I think from a pure vibe perspective it might be the most vanilla looking modded enemy in the game ?

It’s a very good design

[cold zealot]

idk
im torn between the mysterious harbinger and the puppeteer for best vanilla-matching modded monster

both of them are very close to the mark

[night forge]

I honestly don’t mind much considering every piece of content when disabled doesn’t load so it doesn’t really bother me how much I have to disable because I know it won’t effect performance or load times

[hazy thicket]

Personally I think there is value in having the content that’s designed to specifically be an extension of Lethal’s pre-existing designs and aesthetics that’s separate from the more person interpretations of the game in the sense that users and creators can help understand what specifically they want out of the stuff there making (but not suggesting this should happen)

the restrictions that would come from deciding which mod a piece of content goes into can help understand what you want more in terms of overall design goals and the nitty gritty stuff

Eg. I haven’t messed with it much but the whole safe key shovel system from a glance seems visually atleast like it’s more on the end of something trying to fit into vanilla and if that’s the case I’d personally have some critiques on the UX presentation of those features it’s hard to give out those kinds of thoughts without knowing the intent of that mechanic

[wise stag]

Yeah the safes and crates were something I did to get the player to stay outside more often and give them an incentive to in the form of scrap and shop item rewards.
Then I later introduced a danger to them in the form of mimic versions of said crates wherein the que to figure out whether they're mimics is both really subtle and something I don't actually know if anyone here noticed

I couldn't think of a better way to portray that they need to be dug up than just making a scannode with simple instructions and literally implanting em into the ground, then a little thing for the safe that tells you what to do when hovered over it

[hazy thicket]

I’d have to take a proper look before elaborating more but just using it as an example

The more specific the mod the more accurate you can be in determining if the execution is matching the goal

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-baby-cat-coffee-cofffee-cat-sleeping-cat-gif-11793912039839338151

[wise stag]

Hmm ic what you mean, might be worth making a more elaborate config option that handles splitting the mod into what would be considered a more vanilla-esque experience rather than just leaving it as options everywhere, I know I was talking with mrov about something similar with weather registry way back

[night forge]

I forget and can’t check rn
Can you configure the value of the crates

[mild storm]

I think code rebirths visual design was all over the place but when I started helping I focused on a specific design with crate redesigns, the hazards and i guess newer enemies

But of course still had fun with gals and stuff like the duck

[night forge]

Speaking of models I’ve been modeling longer than you but your way better than me at it because you have projects to do stuff for lol
Just kinda funny idk

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tube-trapped-cat-trap-gif-24954140

Been modeling for months straight now, still learning

Dabbled in alot of different things

[night forge]

I’d say your better than me by a good bit despite me doing it for 2 years lol

My main problem has been a lack of motivation
Hard to model something if it’s gonna sit and rot and not be apart of something

That’s why I pumped out so many cosmetics because I could easily get everything ingame myself

[night forge]

And I’ve stopped now due to a lack of ideas and having to fix my Unity project and a bunch of cosmetics I’ve already made

[tawny hare]

https://tenor.com/view/send-this-to-someone-who-looks-like-this-send-this-cat-silly-cat-gif-7223206856976176840

[mild storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1109635584214962208/1167907042560835744/jjpQGeno.gif

[hot light]

https://tenor.com/view/cowl-cowls-gif-2563789475502710348

[ashen peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lunaistabby-car-xmas-new-year-gif-1941835686018742492

[cobalt mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/843662454805757952/1081275308923179098/IMG_2106.gif

[mild storm]

oink oink

[thorny shuttle]

who's this fella

[wise stag]

It's @tropic sage

[thorny shuttle]

hello @tropic sage

oh

[tropic sage]

EXCUSE ME

[tawny hare]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-spin-circling-fat-pig-baby-pig-gif-17867804420670986053

[wise stag]

😡

[plucky sedge]

[wise stag]

I only speak the truth

[night forge]

slots tuah

[plucky sedge]

NO

[night forge]

slots tuah

[plucky sedge]

[night forge]

[plucky sedge]

[opaque spoke]

I GOT DOUBLE-DECKERED

[wise stag]

Code Rebirth [Go Sleep Mel]

@tropic sage get off roblox and go skeep

Sleel

Sleep

[tawny hare]

Maybe you should go skeep too

[mild storm]

Yeah

Everybody go sleep right now

[tawny hare]

If this will happen i will change my mind to smash that thing

So i must stay awake

[opaque spoke]

Worst time for the Puppeteer to fucking show up 🔥 🔥

[granite shale]

When the moon is loading

i have trash disabled, maybe thats why
and btw even if its disabled its still spawns ingame

[wise stag]

Yuh I think trash cans a bit buggy trying to disable em now in current build

You can disable the janitor if you really don't want them temporarily

[tame gale]

0.00,0.00 ; 0.11,0.14 ; 0.22,0.29 ; 0.33,0.43 ; 0.44,0.55 ; 0.56,0.63 ; 0.67,0.71 ; 0.78,0.87 ; 0.89,1.16 ; 1.00,8.00

so how does this works again

it randomly pick (x) number between 0.00 and 1.00
round it up to the closest one then spawn the (y) amount ?

im lost

[granite shale]

nah ill keep them until a fix

since i dont know what there supposed to be used for

[cold zealot]

weirdly the janitor reminds me a lot of a specific terraria content mod

even though both have very apparent differences

i guess i just dont have any other thing to link it to

[cobalt mango]

wulfrum?

[crimson drum]

this lowkey kinda inspiring

i think abt this occasionally LMAO

[cold zealot]

no, the janitor from mod of redemption

both are old, abandoned robots

and thats about where the similarities end

but yeah they do look like wulfrum drones i suppose

[cobalt mango]

yeah makes sense

[cold zealot]

nvm they both speak

[proven minnow]

Xuuuu
Could you make the trashcan spawning config into an animation curve instead of a toggle like you did with hazards? 🥺

[mild storm]

mlem

Like ive stated before, we cant update janitor till we drop next update

[knotty lynx]

There was a wooden crate in quicksand and I tried to be cool by jumping onto the box to get by. I sank through the box 😔 Can't believe I was foiled in such a hilarious way.

[mild storm]

Quicksand is weird, tried to use a ladder to get an item in the middle of quicksand but sank through the ladder

[knotty lynx]

That sounds like it might've happened to me once too but now I can't really remember

[tame gale]

quicksand monster seems about right

[mild storm]

Surfaced quicksand enemy

[knotty lynx]

Quicksand gal?

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-lamer-gato-funny-cat-gif-14420187

[ashen peak]

would u sink into quicksand gal

[knotty lynx]

Stretchy tongue

[dense hazel]

Is that the ooblterra interior?

[mild storm]

im all ears

literally im a mass of human ears

im all ears

• Scans scrap every often, allows you to see it through walls with a green outline
• Zapper hand recharges equipment with battery
• Claw hand acts like a key that can open locked doors and safes
• Button on the side of the head tp you back to the ship

Functional gals : swrd-1, sea-m1, daisy, Liz-zie

[tawny hare]

Ok green owl

[cold zealot]

ive died to quicksand while standing on the railing of the ship

its pretty awesome

[knotty lynx]

The power of the suck is real

[ashen peak]

rodigo

[mild storm]

rodigo

[hot light]

rodigo

[wise stag]

a tale of a duck...

[sly belfry]

So that is what happens if u die to ducky

Also what does duck do

[knotty lynx]

That

It does that

[cobalt mango]

i am GRAPEFUL to meet you!

replace this with grapes

[wise stag]

definitely didnt spam those images to avoid the image you sent

[ashen peak]

grape

[tawny hare]

Can i send that image one more time

[cobalt mango]

i am NOT grapeful to meet you.

[wise stag]

ye

[tawny hare]

Are you sure

[wise stag]

yes

[mild storm]

Court reboot is depercated

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241786100201160784/1316814507481497711/makesweet-wlm4n1.gif

[mild storm]

Photoshoop

Phootoshop

[wise stag]

@tropic sage go to sleep Mel!!!!

How many times I gotta say it

[mild storm]

waxolotl

[night forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-with-red-scarf-dog-red-scarf-scarf-stretched-gif-27439095

[wise stag]

no updates for a bit, enjoying my time in terraria

[wise stag]

been watching her fail the same skill jump for 5 minutes straight

[glad harness]

OMG

Isn't that

The one with the glassmaker boss

[tacit badge]

are you playing that one mod that was singleplayer only for a while?

what was it called

fuckin uh

not spirit mod

smth star lake?

OH starlight river was it?

[shadow kernel]

yup that’s the one

[wise stag]

Ye

[wise stag]

sleeping while a creep watches

[night forge]

is it enough to have a run based around? from what i understand its a few pre hard mode bosses then its out

[wise stag]

me and mel still in pre hardmode since we're playing infernum

but it's got some of the best stuff visually i've seen

[glad harness]

Is it multi now???

[wise stag]

wdym?

[glad harness]

The starlight River mod

[wise stag]

oh idk but we been playing it fine multi

[night forge]

Oh so you have it and infernum

[wise stag]

yea

[wise stag]

just beat WoF, aboutta beat the shit out of this random boss

[mild storm]

Code terraria

[ashen peak]

code zort is deprecated

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241786100201160784/1316814507481497711/makesweet-wlm4n1.gif

[tender kayak]

random

[neon glacier]

this is evil

[proven minnow]

Most traps are too weak imo 😔

[wise stag]

Those bears been hiding in fire exits

We just making sure

[mild storm]

Not according to alot of people, fan and ac unit are called unfair

And if we did buff em, we'd never hear the end of it

[radiant raft]

I personally think that the fan was nerfed way too hard
I had some really funny moments where it just sucked people away into the darkness for them to never be heard from again lmao

[radiant raft]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/j1fn1QPwkztg8yvft?invite=cr-MSxBNWssMjI5OTY0ODMzLA

[cobalt mango]

taken away never to be seen

[tawny hare]

I wonder how many people know that the ac unit's bullet has homing

[night forge]

skill issue

[proven minnow]

Config pls 🥺

[proven minnow]

also AC is fine imo

it just makes you avoid speciifc jetpack routes

[mild storm]

Wasnt nerfed much strenght wise but what happens is that xu made it so it doesnt push or pull you as much near walls to stop the people clipping through walls issue

Maybe the old fan should return

[radiant raft]

Ah I see

[mild storm]

poll time

[knotty lynx]

That’s amazing! I encountered a few in testing and they did not feel very dangerous even being close to them.

Edit: also Wesley, you killed him! That’s you demon!

[tawny hare]

Easy

[mild storm]

funo

[tawny hare]

I win

[mild storm]

Funo no

[tawny hare]

[mild storm]

anyways maybe dynamite bear traps could be a reality if bear traps gets more than 7 votes

Steps on it, fuse lights, better hope to god you get it open before the boom

[knotty lynx]

That is kind of funny

[tawny hare]

Explosions

[mild storm]

🦉from the boom owl

The boom owl presents :
Another goddamn sea mine/explosive

[shadow kernel]

does the flash turret ever actually like

flashbang type flash people?

or is it only just the very bright blinding light of a maxed out unity spotlight

[mild storm]

The flash effect isnt that strong

Otherwise might be too annoying

Was supposed to blind you more if looked at during flash

[shadow kernel]

yeah i was gonna say

[mild storm]

If id buff some it would probably be bug zapper, laser, fan and ac unit

[shadow kernel]

with all my encounters with a flash turret (which to be fair, i’ve only seen like 4-5, i don’t really use coderebirth that much anymore), the turret only emitted a very bright light

and not like a camera flash flashbang like i was expecting

so i was never really affected by it

[knotty lynx]

Last night when playing with 3 friends I’d gone in with 2 and there was a landmine. One of them said “LaNdmINe!” In a funky voice (as a callback to a previous joke) and then in disappointment at the callback to an already bad joke said “I’m going to kill my self” and this man walks forward and (allegedly unintentionally) actually steps on the mine and blows the 3 of us up.

[mild storm]

Ac cuz it sucks at getting actual jetpack users, fan cuz its weak as hell now , zapper cuznit doesnt zap and laser cuz it could be more interesting

Zapper is also bugged currently

Cant zap most of the time

Already fixed in dev

[hot light]

i choose Laser.

1. easy to avoid
2. it needs a fix anyways
   two owls with one stone

[mild storm]

[hot light]

🙂

[mild storm]

2 stones 1 owl

[hot light]

hmm

i do have an idea on how to buff... but it would need more model work

[night forge]

When will it be on TS I need muh zapper

[night forge]

Nah laser is fine
It’s not a huge problem on its own but when other things are around its dangerous
And that’s what makes it good imo

[mild storm]

Not soon, xu is playing terraria

And also dependant on stuff zaggy is working on

Give it a week or 2

[hot light]

aye aye... but im still DMing the buff idea

[shadow kernel]

maybe xu can add infernum mode to CR

that’d be tubs of fun

[night forge]

Couldn’t ya just upload the fix

And comment out new content

[mild storm]

I dunno

Ask shoe shiaolan

But they sleeping

Chat what do you think of Broken variants

The hazards that are clearly very broken and are even more dangerous but slightly differing from the normal ones

[glad harness]

Actually goated idea

[hot light]

hmm

[mild storm]

Broken laser turret refracting laser mutiple dirrections

[hot light]

broken tesla constantly shocking, doing 1 damage per second?

[night forge]

If the gameplay is different enough from the original

[mild storm]

We wanted a broken tesla that shocks the floor in intervals

[shadow kernel]

fan that charges random directions in short bursts when on

[hot light]

need to enforce that as one per tile

[mild storm]

But instead of that i wanted to make a toaster hazard

[shadow kernel]

shredding anyone that just happens to be unfortunate enough to get in it’s way

[hot light]

broken miceowave. the baby inside is alive. every time it opens, a baby pops out

[tawny hare]

[mild storm]

Also might as well put this here

Nobody will know what it do anyways

[tawny hare]

chat im nobody

[mild storm]

Hi nobody

[hot light]

long tan and handsome 😮

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-long-tan-handsome-long-tan-and-handsome-groß-gut-aussehend-gif-18777621

[tawny hare]

still pass

[mild storm]

Also this, which i dunno if ill add to cr, just made it for fun

[hot light]

cr is deprecated. add to surfaced

[mild storm]

Might add all the surfaced gals as deco in a hidden option for surfaced

Code rebirth mode

[tawny hare]

||thirsty|| mode

[hot light]

[mild storm]

Lmao

Thirsty mode it is

[hot light]

does that mean Hermit and Betty are gettin moved?

[mild storm]

No

[hot light]

k good

[mild storm]

Bertha gal can be there though

[hot light]

just Betty with a bigger head

or bigger ||mood||

[mild storm]

It aint over till the fat lady sings

And oh boy does bertha sing

[night forge]

I can dodge the ac unit with tulip snakes

[cold zealot]

there is actually no way.....

[tropic sage]

where is "all" options

[knotty lynx]

You can select more than 1 option

[opaque spoke]

this shit goes HARD

[night forge]

honestly my gripe with the AC unit is its spawn rates
even when lowering its weight to 1 its still like on every moon

same with the crates

[eternal pebble]

More is less often?

Or it's just while less, less often

Because I don't know if it's bad luck or just the config working like that

[knotty lynx]

Higher weight basically makes it more likely to spawn. The max amount that can spawn is not related to weight. I’m not sure I’m following what you’re asking. I’m really tired.

[wise stag]

I would be commenting out like 10 files lol, coderebirth is both huge and I actually pump the stuff out for it fairly quickly, I'm just playing terraria rn so not touching it for a bit

[night forge]

Oh

[wise stag]

Rebrand

Hi @tropic sage

Wake up @tropic sage

I'll be on soon

You better be on

[cold zealot]

ok spawn weight is a bit complicated

higher spawn weights mean higher base chances for something to spawn

but the spawn weight number an entry has is not correlated to the chance

if you want the exact chance of an eyeless dog with 22 spawn weight vs forest giants with 82 and earth leviathans with 39
the calculation is the number of the specific thing you want to know the chance of, divided by the total spawn weight of the string

so in that example, eyeless dogs have a base chance of 15% to spawn

[wise stag]

Higher number = higher chance of spawninf

[night forge]

die

[autumn pagoda]

Very

[wise stag]

lol is that really the scannode

[ashen peak]

i havr idea
the weird purple plush thing from zort that makes an army of creatures follow you if you pick it up as a scrap item
they try to return it to where it was if you drop it

https://tenor.com/view/vro-vro-cat-cat-im-tweaking-im-tweaking-cat-gif-9452953164378936408

[high zenith]

Hey xu just wondering in the future would you be willing to look into improving the performance of meteor shower(if possible), atm its the only part of my pack with and kinds of frame drops, when one of the meteors hits the ground the whole game snags for a second

doesn't interrupt gameplay its just annoying

ofc take your time, I do hope it is possible tho as it is quite annoying

[wise stag]

i can look into that ye, it might be the explosions or some particles, ill check it out

[high zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/saleh-jumping-saleh-the-cat-gif-1188047155833890095

[cold zealot]

death... 😈

[autumn heart]

When you do, can you add a config for the duration of the fire as well?

[wise stag]

ill see if i can, i prob can

[mild storm]

For those who havent voted on this, this will decide your fate

[wise stag]

Ah fine you guys convinced me, I'll buff em all 😔 (/j probably)

Also I'll get rid of exploding crates since uncrate and unsafe are a thing

[wise stag]

Also if you have any suggestions while I'm doing stuff with thr hazards, feel free to give em, no suggestions are bad suggestions, kinda

I've met an irl coderebirth fan, that's crazy

[knotty lynx]

You’re famous!

[wise stag]

They then asked if I made more company, then asked if I made the gun mod "piggy's variety mod" and I did contribute with animation code and stuffs (which the current release completely does not use funnily enough)

[knotty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[autumn heart]

Can any of them be turned off by the terminal already or?

[wise stag]

No but that might be something I'll look into, darmuh helped me a little bit with some of that

[autumn heart]

Sick

[autumn heart]

Just had a mad ass idea but it might be interesting, hear me out

What if the The missile turret that's outside can shoot the flying old birds, and if they manage to hit them, they explode mid air

They explode and the broken parts just drop to the ground like small meteorites falling from the sky, deadly and everything

[shadow kernel]

Yeah and just to make it actually deadly toplayers

[autumn heart]

It's one hell of an idea I just randomly thought about

[shadow kernel]

Ookay nvm you said like exactly what i was gonna say

Yeah that’d be really neat

[mild storm]

My suggestion is to make every hazard one shot

[wise stag]

That's more heavy lifting on rodrigos end so it'd depend if he was fine with it tbh but it could be pretty cool having debris fall.down and kill players

[mild storm]

What

How is that on my end

[wise stag]

Modelling the debris

Cuz the code itself isn't anything crazt

[mild storm]

Shi-

[autumn heart]

If you guys actually do that, could the explosion mid air look all cool and shit?

Like fire works type of cool

[wise stag]

Um I could try making the explosions look cool

That's usually the goal

[autumn heart]

I wanna see the kaboooooom

[mild storm]

Are people gonna like old birds dying mid air? I feel like people will cry about it

waaaaa waaaa invincible enemy dead

[autumn heart]

Could always turn it into a config option

[mild storm]

Xu didnt want to make bug zapper zap bug enemies

Cuz enemies cant fight back

[autumn heart]

I know I would love it for sure

[wise stag]

The idea is to have permanent sort of additions, if something harms enemies exclusively it's meh but if its a but of both idm

Like bug zapper chains from player to enemy etc

But doesn't inherently target enemy

[neon glacier]

is there an interaction between multiple tulip snakes lifting you up and beartraps? 🤔

[mild storm]

ac unit ignoring bruce the flying shark cuz it knows it would get owned

[wise stag]

If you're lifted far enough, it untriggers, otherwise you're kinda perma stuck unless another person disables the trap

Next update for acu explodes ogolame-o

[neon glacier]

I'm thinking if you're high enough it will tear you apart then the cause of death will be snipped 🤣

[wise stag]

Would be funny but can't differentiate from like tulip snake pulling you, or teleporter getting you out, etc

[fresh thunder]

I feel like moon size would be an issue
How effective it is as a hazard depends on where the old bird is
On larger maps its just gonna die well away from players and do nothing
On small maps, if the AoE is big, it would be unavoidable basically

[neon glacier]

would make sense if you got tp'ed while stucked in beartrap, you'll tear in half 😂 would be funny

[mild storm]

Broken bear trap, shoots up and chomp your head

Broken microwave, causes walls to explode and loves to spin on itself

more broken variants

Broken Ac unit, shoots a voley of shrapnels

In a spread

[shadow kernel]

Well old birds usually try to fly towards players (at least in my experience), so even if it’s a large map, the old bird would still likely be near them (ofc ignoring their height from the player)

small maps i wouldn’t exactly know what you mean by, besides titan and maybe march

Smth like that wouldn’t really be an issue unless it’s embrion

And embrion would just be funny with that idea

(Ofc talking abt this through vanilla moons since i don’t really know any modded ones that would have these kinds of problems)

[tawny hare]

nuh uh

[fresh thunder]

Basically it would need to do a trick or two to make it work
I.e. only shoot an old bird if its above a player
Like how spike traps dont go off for enemies if no player is in the facility or whatever

Same reason FairAI has a config for turrets/mines only killing stuff when a player is around

[autumn heart]

I mean, I feel like if they do do that, they should make it into a config

[wise stag]

The perfect idea doesn't need a config

[shadow kernel]

Yeah that could def work

[autumn heart]

Nothing is perfect nowadays

[wise stag]

I'm perfect tyvm

[knotty lynx]

What if you made the config have a config?

[autumn heart]

I guess you don't need a config then

[tawny hare]

Just ignore everyone who asked about config

[fresh thunder]

True
If its designed well and somewhat sorta follows vanilla without doing anything super crazy then it's normally fine
If its unbalanced it normally needs a config to then work in a pack more

[autumn heart]

There are two types of people

Lmao

[knotty lynx]

Me and not me

[wise stag]

Someone config'd me to be less friendly to bad developers, hence my hate towards @tropic sage (I lie)

[fresh thunder]

@wise stag make me a config so that my parents will love me (disabled by default)

[autumn heart]

Ah so you ain't perfect then, tsk tsk tsk

[knotty lynx]

69 🩷 you're welcome

[autumn heart]

"When turned on, it just throws errors" lmao

[wise stag]

Guys keep asking for impossible configs smh

[fresh thunder]

💔

[mild storm]

what if there was a mod with no configs

[fresh thunder]

Off the top of my head, i've never had to config Biodiversity much

[knotty lynx]

It does definitely have them though

[fresh thunder]

Ye

Office shrimp also works pretty well out of the box
Does everything you would expect and balanced fine
Trying to think of some traps

[mild storm]

Chat found a render i did for the rodrigo mod i wanted to do months ago

[tawny hare]

can you make a config that will give me a gazillion dollars in real life every frame

[tawny hare]

Angry birds

[fresh thunder]

Tbh i've never felt configs were needed for laser, ac unit, tesla or fan
They also work as expected after some of the fixes n stuff
Only config is there spawns ofc, which is the same as any other trap, scrap, interior or enemy

[wise stag]

Content wise its not even close, config wise there's a lot of useless stuff in there (no offense but like so much configing in biodiversity is little misc values that really shouldn't be a config but just a balanced part of the enemy, it ain't legos for others to build)

[wise stag]

So many questions

None I want answered

[fresh thunder]

Ye
Main thing in CR that needed configs to play nice was weathers, gals and crate mechanic stuff
I think the traps have been fine, especially once they got spawn curves

[wise stag]

Also in terraria modded, most of the popular mods just have shit configs, when can I expect to be held to that standard smh

[fresh thunder]

TRUE

[wise stag]

Like why is the better respawn timer mod based on a scale that affects 2 or 3 timers

Just give me a separate slider for each thing

[fresh thunder]

Tho they tend to be larger content thingies
If its balanced poorly people either don't care or don't use the mod
They dont try and make it "fit in" and config it, because they add so much

Or with even smaller mechanics they just deal with it or don't use it ig

[tawny hare]

And calamity has its own respawn timer buff iirc

[wise stag]

CodeRebirth is the next calamity, our gals are just the elementals

Omg dice gal is just an add-on for coderebirth

It all fits

[tawny hare]

Put them in a jar

[wise stag]

Cliff yourself

[tawny hare]

Sure

Goodbye chat

[wise stag]

Didn't even say bye to acunit

Fake lover

[mild storm]

He wants her to blast him

[tawny hare]

Ac unit with ears

[mild storm]

Ac unit gal with cat ears and a maid outfit

[proven minnow]

Yeah imo as much as configuring it will be a pain, xu should just turn all spawn rate configs into animation curves

[wise stag]

😶

Hey I'm not the one who said it

[proven minnow]

Waiting for skeletron boss fight in LC

[tender kayak]

not until you start adding more worm monsters

[tawny hare]

hear me out

[mild storm]

This is all you get

Brucette maid

Just for funo

[fresh thunder]

Its fascinating because of how much the balance n stuff has changed with it
In older versions especially, its balance was very wack, basically invalidating any gear from other mods not designed for calamity because calamity stuff is scaled up so much
Recently tho i recall they toned it down to follow vanilla balance a bit more
Their custom version of balancing before wasnt wrong tho
Just...it creates a different experience, more tailoured around bossfights and all rather than all the other parts of the game

But one that's a lil divisive

CodeRebirth is a bit more like Thorium tho
It just adds more variety, it doesnt shift the balance too much imo

Tho Gals and Crates do kinda get close
But the configs prevent that

[tender kayak]

I wonder what the lethal equivalent of calamity would look like

[mild storm]

lets find out

[tender kayak]

oh god

[tawny hare]

i am too traumatized by russian terraria community and every time i remember how they shit calamity for sprites

[fresh thunder]

Unsure
Uhhhhhhh
Maybe brutal company?
Idk
Calamity-like mod would be a mod that fundamentally twists the game into a different direction

Smaller mechanics when unbalanced can do that, such as sell bodies if you dont balance the sell values properly
Casino if you don't set it to realistic mode
Any kind mod that allows excessive revives without much penalty or cost etc.

[tender kayak]

Yeah, I'd expect those would turn the game into doom, "gather trinkets and gamble" simulator or just

lethal but death is meaningless

[tender kayak]

But to be a true calamity equivalent it'd have to be a big general content mod, that also coincidentally shifts the game balance/direction pretty drastically

but in what direction 🤔

Terraria is a sandbox primarily with some amount of progression through bosses, and calamity hard emphasises the progression/boss fight aspect

[fresh thunder]

The closest is CR, but it does a good job balancing the stuff, and even the more divisive balance stuff like crates, weather and gals have good configs so it can be kept in check

[night forge]

CR is not a calamity equiv

there is no calamity equiv in lethal

[fresh thunder]

For example if you feel crates are shifting the focus away from looting inside to looting outside, then just lower the spawns, amount of items etc. in proportion to how big the outside is

[fresh thunder]

Thats what i said
Closest but is not

[night forge]

atleast in how i see it

[night forge]

hard3

[fresh thunder]

That is very interesting tho

[proven minnow]

Gonna utter the forbidden AC

[fresh thunder]

Idk if AC was even like that tbh
Never played though

[proven minnow]

It had a clothing system, an upgrade system and a bunch of other stuff

While I haven't played with it much before the mod creator went wacko I did see it had stuff like diving boots which basically let you fly if it was flooded

[wise stag]

The problem is that the other stuff was kinda just random things that arent really gameplay, like latejoining, more players, things that don't nearly fit the mod

[proven minnow]

The entire og pack of LGU gets pretty close with all the different items

Combo of wheelbarrow, deeper pockets and a jetpack is stupidly overpowered with the default config

[fresh thunder]

Hmm. Could be yeah
I always avoided adding that one to mine for that reason
Not a bad mod, just didnt wanna try and balance around it

[valid drum]

I added LGU back for now simply for the force credits stuff until LLL's bug gets fixed where you can't land the ship if you have to do a lobby reload or something while on a paid moon

[proven minnow]

I went ahead and disabled a ton of stuff for balance. Pretty much all direct buff upgrades got disabled and i mostly kept stuff that's either active (eg sick beats) or extemely situational (eg discombobulator)

[valid drum]

Idk if there's a smaller mod that can do something like that

[fresh thunder]

Interesting
For now i have opted to just not update stuff until LLL / compat with all the mods is fixed

[valid drum]

The hot loading feature is too useful so I've just been working around it

That is the only real annoying bug it has atm

[proven minnow]

Speaking of that.
Do you know if not being able to pull the lever to land on a moon as client is an LLL bug?

[valid drum]

If you're trying to do it after first joining that is vanilla

[proven minnow]

Nah the first joining is normal

I mean every single time you try to land

[valid drum]

Then probably, cus LLL is messing with the lever stuff

[proven minnow]

I'll try to work it out but I suspect it could be both LLL and GI

[knotty lynx]

I think it did start with the new LLL versions. I think it’s been reported but you can mention it in the LLL thread anyway because it might’ve been buried

[valid drum]

I just don't let GI touch most things

[proven minnow]

Cuz when I hover over the lever as client I get the same text as I get with the pre-game lever pull

[valid drum]

GI is bloat imo, I only really like it's monitor stuff

[proven minnow]

I love it

[valid drum]

I've had too many cases of that mod where it begins breaking after Shaosil goes MIA for long periods of time

[proven minnow]

Really useful for quickly checking stuff like discounted items, current ship loot etc

[proven minnow]

Yeah that's true actually

[valid drum]

Yeah, the monitor stuff just needs to be it's own mod

It has too much centralized in one place which is annoying

[proven minnow]

Can't force shao to fix it but it's still a bummer

[valid drum]

Yeah

[mild storm]

Mushroom cat in cr

[valid drum]

🤔

[mild storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-3361387636719980637

[knotty lynx]

Wait a minute… who’s the real Lunxara? 👀

[night forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sand-cat-cat-jump-sunaneko-neko-gif-23717537

[mild storm]

Me

[fresh thunder]

Funny little interaction between the AC unit and Mel's furniture/2 story ship
Rg and Temmie are saying when someone goes in the pocket dimension, the ac unit outside looks up and keeps spamming shots
I suppose because thats where the pocket dimension is somewhere

Might need to just add a check for if someone is in there or something

[tender kayak]

it's keeping the pocket dimension cool

[mild storm]

Mel didnt set her tags correctly

Doesnt count as ground

[tender kayak]

We don't know how good the ventilation is in there

[fresh thunder]

I see i see

[proven minnow]

wait so 2story ship uses a pocket dimension?

[fresh thunder]

I think its an extra WIP upgrade thing you can buy

[proven minnow]

oh so it's an additional room of sorts

I was hoping it would be something that could be used to make the inside of the ship bigger while the outside would be the vanilla sized ship

[mild storm]

non euclidean ship

[proven minnow]

Exactly!

It would work really well with pretty much any moon since you could reap the benefits of having a wider ship without risking having your cruiser clip into the ground because the moon's geometry says so (looking at you crystallum)

[valid drum]

The one with the content creator role obviously lol

[vestal python]

lies

[valid drum]

Go back to your corner

[vestal python]

rodrigo is the real lunxara

[mild storm]

wow i, lunxara, would never discredit somebody

[valid drum]

Anyways I need to start stream gonna stop fueling into this brain rot for now

[mild storm]

Anyways I need to start stream gonna stop fueling into this brain rot for now

[ashen peak]

owl vtuber stream

[valid drum]

Honestly that would be funny to see

Everytime he dies you hear that screech from his scrap

XD

[mild storm]

id want something like this, little rodrigo held by a gal lol

in this example, the guy is the ghost and the lady is chat

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gNEIzgX60gM

[vestal python]

terminal gal with twitch chat on the screen:

[proven minnow]

each sub she would pet the little guy

[ashen peak]

1 sub = 1 seamine

[proven minnow]

bertha

[ashen peak]

[tropic sage]

unless concrete tag + room layer isn't correct, immediately accuses me smh

[wise stag]

room layer blocks, u sure there's a non trigger collider with that?

also yeah def your fault

[tropic sage]

accusing me of wrong lAyers

[wise stag]

because you're not joining the vc

automatically bad

[tropic sage]

smh

does AC Unit target through one-sided planes, where, if using the same face as a mesh, would be invisible in the direction of the trap?

[wise stag]

i use a raycast stoopid

so i think it'd go through it yea

[tropic sage]

oh ok, then I'll just add collider to the outside box I guess

[atomic seal]

@wise stag When are we getting a Industrial Fan buff.

[wise stag]

when it wins the poll

[crimson drum]

every time i hear ac unit i imagine an air conditioner

[wise stag]

that was what we were going for

also cool cinematic shot i caught by accident

samplescene kinda got nice lighting

[cold zealot]

i am starting to really hate the fact the voodoo doll can be pushed by specific entities

maybe its more so just taking 25 damage a pop

i was exploring a room and a bracken targeted me while i had the doll, and it kept pushing into it because of how its ai calls it to move around the map in phase 1

and that killed me

my friend says a solution can be you can pick it up like a maneater

but that might be weird since it can actually turn into scrap, idk

[wise stag]

i mean thats kind of the point, you don't wanna be puppetted, you get like a secondary body that's very fragile that u gotta protect

it's like isaac's heart in binding of isaac, people dont pick up that item because its ass to play with

[cold zealot]

but the puppeteer forcefully gives you the voodoo doll if it ever sees you, and there is no way to counter that happening

and sure you could kill it, but you might not even find them after they go away from the area

[cold zealot]

ok well pressurized doors i guess

but thats it

[wise stag]

Their range is 20 pathable distance, you just need to get away from that range

[mild storm]

Same counter as jester, coil head, radmechs
Running

Hes very slow

[cold zealot]

can it decide to pathfind towards you again, repeating this?

[wise stag]

if you're close by, yeah

if you see him at main, just go to fire, he doesnt have priority over stuff like janitor that pushes other entities around or goes through doors

[cold zealot]

theres so many small factors ughhhhgahsjawnwjZn

idk

i guess i cant say anymore

[mild storm]

mlem, picking up the puppet makes things too easy

Im making people pay for all the clownhorn fish deaths

[cold zealot]

i never said i agreed with my friend when they said that

[tawny hare]

Nuh uh

[opaque spoke]

What if the fire exit is directly beside main?

[wise stag]

20 pathable distance is also not really a lot, going up and down the stairs is like probably a distance of 10~15?

thinking about the stairs in factory

[tawny hare]

Pray

[wise stag]

dodge and weave

[cold zealot]

memorize every seed

[opaque spoke]

I'll hit them with the spare change in my pocket instead

[mild storm]

You get puppeted, and get scary blue lobster to kill your puppet

[opaque spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ultra-kill-ultrakill-hollow-purple-purple-machine-gif-7602302789684526343

[cold zealot]

.....is that ACTUALLY a function of the lobster

[mild storm]

I mean lobster hurts it which is hilarious

Not planned but funny

[cold zealot]

but its a weapon isnt it

[mild storm]

Lobster enemy

[wise stag]

he means lobster from surfaced

[cold zealot]

oh

[wise stag]

the lobster you buy in CR would deal like 75 health

[mild storm]

The one that mimics sounds

[opaque spoke]

I thought Scary doesn't deal damage?

[mild storm]

Not to you but to the puppet yes

[cold zealot]

the puppet makes you take damage based on monster contact

[opaque spoke]

How does that even happen code-wise 😭

[wise stag]

they dont to you but they have an enemyaicollisiondetect collider for whatever reason

[cold zealot]

doesnt matter if they cant damage you

[wise stag]

they collect collisions to the player, just as most enemies do, so deals damage

speaking of which, i gotta yell at whoever made baldi

[mild storm]

Cant be killed by seamine gal

Bad tags and colliders

[opaque spoke]

Baldi would mop the floor with Goku clearly

[cold zealot]

i suppose the only thing i could really propose is a blacklist that you can use to make some monsters unable to push the voodoo doll, but id also understand not really wanting to implement that

really this is only a problem for brackens, jesters, and hygroderes

but whatever i guess

[mild storm]

I mean xu blacklisted 999

[wise stag]

hydrogeres doesnt seem like a problem, jesters i can see

[tawny hare]

Path distance for offmeshes is adjustable, right? I wonder how broken the offmeshes are in the interiors for puppeteer

[wise stag]

yeah 999 is the only current exception to the rule

[cold zealot]

hygroderes are pretty bothersome in combination, and the bracken is a problem for the reason i died to one before that i said

[wise stag]

offmesh links are complicated, it's like they're not even part of the path

[mild storm]

Makes hygrodere more dangerous

And bracken i think is fine, jester however is like scary

Always on you

[wise stag]

problem is, there's no way for me to A. Detect damage an enemy should be doing, hence why i default to just 25 on all, and B. when an enemy is passive

[cold zealot]

maybe you can improve the physics of the puppet being pushed away idk

[mild storm]

Mmm physics

[opaque spoke]

Couldn't do it based on like... I'dunno, phases?...

[mild storm]

Physics suck

[cold zealot]

unity physics 💔

[opaque spoke]

I don't know what they're called internally

[wise stag]

they're called states, but how am i to differentiate between all enemy phases without hard coding it?

[cold zealot]

i like the jesters 4th state name

[mild storm]

Would be terrible performance wise too id imagine

[cold zealot]

"RUN FOR YOUR LIFE"

[mild storm]

Checking all enemy states

[opaque spoke]

What the fuck?

[wise stag]

there is never any standard, the first state of the redwood giant is spawning, like all my other enemies, the first state for jester could just be wandering

[opaque spoke]

I didn't know they were called that

[wise stag]

etc

[hazy thicket]

nah

[opaque spoke]

Are there any other gags in the code like that?

[wise stag]

good thing they have only 3 states

[cold zealot]

wtf

alter ego lied...

[opaque spoke]

I mean

It is their alter ego

Evil

[tawny hare]

Yeah i was like "wha but there is only 3 states"