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#Code Rebirth [V§O∆X∆O§]
open laurel
the key is 0 to 1, 0 start of day, 1 end of day
wise stag
mhm
open laurel
the value is the amount of enemies allowed to exist at that time in the day
open laurel
wuah?
wise stag
the value is the spawn weight percentage
if it's at 1
that means everytime it tries to spawn one
it looks at its spawnweight * the curve
if its 1, it's 1, if it's 0.5, the spawn weight is 0.5 * normal spawn weight
open laurel
here's the unaltered spawn curve for offense
wise stag
that's purely for funny looking curves
open laurel
zeekerss start it in the negatives, I guess to be sure there's a more precise moment when more enemies can come into play
wise stag
it helps get a steeper curve
if u start from smaller values
it's just how values work
here is an explanation i wrote on it a while back
https://lethal.wiki/dev/apis/lethallib/custom-enemies/unity-project and here's the page
open laurel
this is what it visualizes as when I just plug in Offense's vanilla spawn chance curve keys and values
open laurel
and it basically functions as shooting from 0 straight up at the halfway point
wise stag
in my ss are all te values in play
i think it clamps to the right so anything past 0.6 will have a y-value of 1
not sure though
open laurel
I'm... almost positive that isn't true, the value doesn't stop at 1
banana puncher seems to disagree, and I'm assuming he did his research before building the tool to work the way it did
wise stag
i also did research before writing the wiki lol, but ill give it one more look ig
open laurel
plus I've built numerous spawning curves under the impression it worked this way with value representing monster count, and the results in-game were always pretty much exactly what I expected
I think you are confusing the overall enemy spawn chance curve with the specific enemy spawn chance curve
these two function differently, of which I am aware
the overall spawn chance curve has the value represent the amount of monsters allowed to exist at that point in the day (and if spawn waves happen around this time, how many additional monsters are spawned looks to the value to decide where to stop)
wise stag
i've never used LQ before, which curve is which here lol
which one is specific to enemies
and which one is specific to the level
open laurel
lower is specific enemy (baboon hawk in screenshot)
upper is overall spawn chance curve for ALL outside enemies across the board
but even the specific enemy spawn chance curve doesn't work like you said
it's just a multiplier
I've literally used it to deliberately raise a spawning weight by setting the value to 3, so it takes the rarity and climbs up to x3 by that point in the day
wise stag
i can test this rq with actual code gimme a sec lol
open laurel
as far as I know, it can accept 500, and will actually multiply that specific enemy's rarity by 500 and basically guarantee it's the only thing that spawns
I'm pretty sure zeekerss made the overall spawning curve do that weird loop so that he could basically counteract the random range and force outside monsters to spawn no sooner than halfway through the day no matter what the range picked
I really don't understand any other reason he'd do a crazy down-loop starting in the negatives that low of an arch otherwise, because functionally that's all it'd do is basically bypass the random range and give more precise control over when nighttime enemies begin spawning
wise stag
oaky tbh i have no idea lol
open laurel
don't worry I'm basically positive, I've built like 15 moons scrap and monster pools from scratch like this
I think I just gotta tweak the numbers until the tornados stop spawning 3 at once at the start, it's likely my fault
open laurel
alrighty that time it was only 2 at once, and they also spawned farther away
so it's shaping up to be exactly what I imagined
I love that the cruiser is not effected by tornado wind, means players can do emergency rescue pickups if there's too many tornados to safely walk to the ship
wise stag
yeah lol
open laurel
interesting... and now 2 MORE spawned at once
I don't think this is LQ, it never does this with any other enemies
is it possible something in Code Rebirth is forcing it to spawn multiples at once?
open laurel
yeah that was the first thing I looked at too
but it's 0 on my end as well
interesting
well by nerfing the overall outside enemy spawn curve values, I bumped it from 3 at a time to 2 at a time
theoretically I can get it to 1 at a time
damn it is beautiful though, literal storm planet that gets worse the longer you stay, it's basically perfect
thanks so much Xu lol, this moon is gonna be the highlight of my modpack I think
wise stag
have fun lol
valid drum
Haha he just walked into the Tornado and died
Guessing it can also damage enemies not just players
wise stag
thats what it looks like, but unfortunately tornados dont damage enemies lol
valid drum
I thought it was intended lol
wise stag
atleast i dont remember coding that
not something i can unintentionally code either lol
valid drum
atleast i dont remember coding that
Lmao well it happened regardless, I don't think another mod could make that happen since I don't have anything like FairAI
open laurel
I've noticed the tornados spawned in through LQ almost always spawn either directly beside the ship a few feet away, or very close to the ship. Is there any easy way to make sure their spawn locations are more diversified? They end up huddling around the ship more often than not, like their wandering behavior isn't truly random but rather knows where the ship is and deliberately tries to encroach on it like eyeless dogs or something
wise stag
it picks a random spot within 100 meters of the centre, the centre being the ship, and i'd rather not work out the logic to change that lol
for spawning*
for moving it just does what any other enemy does
open laurel
hmm
open laurel
I seem to get frame stutters with more than about 3 tornados at a time
is there perhaps something expensive with how a tornado functions that doesn't enjoy being multiplied to run 5 times at once or something?
maybe calculations for the pull-forces?
open laurel
doesn't seem to happen in the facility, only outside... interesting
another thing I noticed was that tornado pull-force seems to only apply to host if the host leaves the ship's outer railing, whereas clients in the game have the pull-force applied to them right as they step outside the doors. Is this an oversight maybe?
wise stag
U sure?
open laurel
well I could be wrong about the clients not receiving pull-force inside the ship, but yes I am POSITIVE the host receives no pull-force unless they actually get off the ship catwalk
could be that clients still get pulled by the tornado while inside the ship too and I just wasn't paying enough attention
viscid rock
ooo
hot light
more weapons please. i like weapons 🙂
viscid rock
Do the maces act like normal shovels?
wise stag
Do the maces act like normal shovels?
they have special effects
viscid rock
they have special effects
oh I didn't get a chance to use them yet, what do they do?
wise stag
natures mace heals players AND enemies
icy hammer slows down enemies
spiky mace does double shovel
viscid rock
ooooh
wise stag
and they all ofc still ahve the chance to crit 2x damage
viscid rock
interesting
flat tusk
flora seems to be spawning on quite a few non-terrain objects for some reason
had a shard of grass spawn in the ship on etern with desert flora
this with snowy flora on polarus
this on arcadia
(plus the forest foliage doesn't only appear inside the dome anymore on arcadia)
wise stag
If you're noticing wrong foliage spawning then it's probably just error on my end with assigning stuff
But the spawning onto of metal etc objects is a problem with the moon tagging stuff
For restrictions I cant control, I'm forced to spawn my foliage on untagged parts of moons
The only fix is for mooners to tag places properly as "Metal" etc
wise stag
okay im kinda a bit lazy on the flower stuff
and whitespike seems to love pulling polls
so
hybrid flume
autumn pagoda
^other is something you want ideas or do you have your own?
wise stag
oh yeah the natures mace is also broken, ill fix that too while im at it
wise stag
lol
old viperBOT
carmine kite
I really enjoy the custom weather tbh, blizzard weather would be cool but it sounds like something zeekerss would add himself to snow moons at some point
otherwise, dangerous flora or hazards for outside yeah, new enemies are cool but I personally end up liking them less than the vanilla ones
carmine kite
like a lot of custom enemies have cool gimmicks but they're really just gimmicks, and their mechanics still boil down to "they chase you and hit you until you're dead"
fickle hill
Most enemies I've added to my friend pack, I've removed Soo after
Even snailcat though mainly bc it looks like a dog on ship monitor
So ideally you can add an enemy I'd want to keep enabled
carmine kite
yeah same, I add and remove depending on what my friends like, and most of the custom enemies don't seem to impress them a lot so I end up removing after
fickle hill
Off the top of my head I have the mirage mod which is a masked rework not new enemy, mimic fire exits which are more of an interior trap, immortal snail only bc we wanted an enemy to fill slimes niche and snail is a less annoying slime
carmine kite
a lot of the stuff in this mod is really good so if you got a really cool idea for an enemy, then yea give it a go!
fickle hill
Also bias bc I suggested the snail to the modder who made it lil
carmine kite
yeah mirage is good, mimic fire exits is cool but some of my friends felt like it got stale very fast, I like the locker enemy too
in terms of custom enemies, locker is probably one of the best ones imo
fickle hill
Maybe I'll consider it
I just didn't want to punish the team for using scan, an essential element of the game
Sure I overrely on it but my eyesight isnt great, I miss items very easily
I made mimics only a 23% chance of spawning one or more, so they are very uncommon
carmine kite
yeah it has taken us by surprise A LOT but at least that means it stays interesting
fickle hill
Just common enough to make you nervous around a fire exit
carmine kite
that might be a good idea, I did notice after a while people didn't really fall for the fake exits anymore, but when I removed it & added it again later, they definitely did lol
wise stag
reason for the poll btw is i never come up with ideas, i dont have the brain for that
item crates were an old #1188298686560739389, snailcat was a silly model a friend made, cutiefly was a blender tutorial that looked fun
flora was a big asset package i received
snowglobe was a friend's idea and it wasnt me who dealt with most of its code
uhh
wallet was a friends idea, hoverboard was tiktok
meteorshower was from xilo
the weapons were all same reason as flora
tornados were just requested
fickle hill
Oh here's a cool weather idea of my friends, not a clue how hard it is to implement.
SOLSTICE:
Appearance: Bluish color variant of the eclipse sky, and it gets darker faster. This doesn't affect gameplay.
Effect: Only affects indoor spawning. The first enemy to spawn will be the only enemy that spawns on the moon. This will bypass monster limits. As long as there is power to spawn, they will keep spawning.
This would be a gamblers best friend. This weather can make a moon a breeze by only spawning spore lizards, earlier moons could potentially be a little easier with only a single bracken or spider, or on hard moons you could be cursed to infinite jesters and coilheads. Do you take the risk?
A lot of enemies that would normally be easy become a bit of a nightmare. Slimes make traversal a slog, snare fleas make exploration without a weapon a suicide mission, and Brackens on moons with high power is just as problematic as coilheads. Thumpers are a horrifying assault on your ears and your body as the entire facility shakes
Hoarding bugs could be an issue, or be a great way to get loot all in one spot
bitter thistle
that's actually really cool and would be awesome with mods
bitter thistle
I just didn't want to punish the team for using scan, an essential element of th...
lockers really aren't that bad as long as they dont' spawn too often. You can dodge them and they only attack a few times before they turn off again. You can change how many times they charge in configs and after finding it you tell your team
they run into walls pretty easily and only go straight through you. Expecially on modded moons they are easily dodged
autumn heart
oh yeah the natures mace is also broken, ill fix that too while im at it
It's working just fine, I don't know what you're talking about
bitter thistle
It's working just fine, I don't know what you're talking about
is that a niko hat?
versed adder
🙏🙏
open laurel
and they all ofc still ahve the chance to crit 2x damage
did you fix them not critting if their damage was upgraded by protein powder from LGU?
open laurel
A lot of enemies that would normally be easy become a bit of a nightmare. Slimes...
this is a very neat idea but I've discovered that not all enemy ai is equally optimized. Plop 15 brackens into a mansion interior with dungeon size of 3.5 (dine and rend are 1.8 in vanilla) and the fps is buttery smooth.
Plop 15 coil-heads into that same dungeon size, your frames drag WAY down to the point the whole moon is an unplayable stuttering mess.
Certain enemies would need to be tested, and the performance-intensive ones would have to be cut out, but that defeats the gamble aspect a bit tho, so what enemy got chosen for spam-spawning would need to just be pre-determined on a random roster of selection, instead of letting the moon decide
fickle hill
that is quite a shame. Ty for letting me know!
I guess it could be "Spawn this enemy until you reach max, then spawn new enemy type and repeat"
1 ghost girl and 9 loot bugs could still be funny, but it definitely loses some of the appeal
And feels way too in favor of the player since most problem enemies have reasonable limits
And when it isn't in favor, it feels too...normal. Like oh boy, a bracken, 2 slimes and some snare fleas. It's vanilla just slightly more obnoxious, if you even get to see all of those enemies in the run to realize what the effect of the weather was
odd briar
Sometimes flora is floating a few inches off the ground
This happens on modded and vanilla moons
wise stag
did you fix them not critting if their damage was upgraded by protein powder fro...
Dunno how I'd fix that so no
wise stag
Sometimes flora is floating a few inches off the ground
Picture pls and ty
wise stag
it's fine, we love the railing
odd briar
These ones are hard to see from the angle but they are floating
viscid rock
I still REALLY need the snowglobes
wise stag
no
wise stag
I still REALLY need the snowglobes
uhh what did u need again
mild storm
when the xu xiaolan is sus
viscid rock
uhh what did u need again
Musicbox remixes of the boombox music inside new variants of the snowglobe, because Im obsessed eith the dropship one
Oh and theres the disco ball too
wise stag
moon
mild storm
moon
autumn pagoda
moonterior
mild storm
Intoon
opaque spoke
It's working just fine, I don't know what you're talking about
GUH?? Send the Niko cosmetic mod NOW!!
autumn heart
GUH?? Send the Niko cosmetic mod NOW!!
opaque spoke
Thank yoy
autumn heart
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
wise stag
It's working just fine, I don't know what you're talking about
missed this, yeah it works against enemies just fine, just not to players lol
and yeah that masked probably had like 10 hp by the end lmao
autumn heart
and yeah that masked probably had like 10 hp by the end lmao
Look at the bottom right
It said 0 damage done
Im like tf
autumn heart
Masked are suppose to have 3 hp don't they? this one was stronger than my dad fr fr
wise stag
4 but ye
wise stag
it heals trust™️
autumn heart
Fuck sake lmao
I swear someone should make a mod where masked can pick up melee weapons and hit players with that shit
Would catch people off guard
opaque spoke
Doesn't LethalIntelligence do that
Or do I keep on forgetting
I feel like I've asked this before
wise stag
The Redwood gyatts incompletion is messing with ur head
opaque spoke
True...
wise stag
Is this intended?
I probably forgot to blacklist something, will check when I'm home
Currently hiking
autumn heart
I probably forgot to blacklist something, will check when I'm home
Ah ok ok
hot light
hell yea new spaps station moon 8D
bitter thistle
this is a very neat idea but I've discovered that not all enemy ai is equally op...
why are coil heads a problem? don't they base have a cap of like 5 or 6?
bitter thistle
Dunno how I'd fix that so no
couldn't you just make it so that crits add damage instead of doubling it?
I mean, that would work weirdly with protein powder, but it'd still do more damage
flat tusk
why are coil heads a problem? don't they base have a cap of like 5 or 6?
read above that message
open laurel
why are coil heads a problem? don't they base have a cap of like 5 or 6?
we were talking about theoretically pumping up their cap to something not seen in vanilla, but yes I believe so. Bracken always has a cap of 1 though, so if in his example bracken was selected
bracken becomes only enemy inside for the whole day which is too easy, basically free stuff
open laurel
couldn't you just make it so that crits add damage instead of doubling it?
the probably best-of-both-worlds solution is a config slider that lets you set the damage from 1 to 900 or something, then just let people decide if they wanna customize a bit
bitter thistle
I was just curious why they cause lag, not that they cause it
open laurel
and protein powder from LGU will just tack one a few extra damage points anyway
best theory I heard of why excessive coil-heads cause lag is that they are constantly checking all around themselves every frame to see if they are visible by a player
bitter thistle
they seem like a fairly simple enemy all things
open laurel
bigger the dungeon, more and larger rooms and hallways as they zip around where the visibility check has to cast down and assess
bitter thistle
yeah, that's what I thought the answer would be
open laurel
they seem like a fairly simple enemy all things
that's what I thought too until I tested it and started playing Slideshow Company
granted I was going a bit bananas, a mansion dungeon interior of like 3.5 and 14 coil heads
but even 5 in a big-big dungeon has bad on fps, and generally too unpleasant to tolerate and play
bitter thistle
I still think it'd be an awesome weather condition. Just make a config to turn off certain enemies if that is possible and turn off the laggy ones
open laurel
butler is a bit laggy too, nutcracker is a tiny bit but less-so
bitter thistle
cause that would be so much fun, specially with modded enemies
fickle hill
Woe be upon you! Spawns 10 slimes on Titan
open laurel
dogs are quite laggy if you spam them
fickle hill
I didn't include outdoor enemies for solstice
open laurel
the ever beloved eyeless dog on the interior gimmick can only be done with about 5-ish dogs on a vanilla-ish sized interior
any larger/more than that and fps will tell you to stahp
fickle hill
Could be a funny option but we already have embrion for our old bird spam needs
bitter thistle
imagine like 15 lockers or moving turrets or bagpipe ghosts with a ton of their defenders
or even benign enemies
open laurel
moving turrets were always janky for me
I like the cleaner drones, moving turrets always see you through walls and don't always actually shoot bullets in the direction they are facing
I wish they worked better
bitter thistle
yeah they can be a bit, but I see that as some of their charm. If they always did everything right, they'd be busted
ocean meteor
vain shroud if it good 😔
wise stag
kek
open laurel
ah yes, the most deadly of all the weathers
crude vale
corruption/crimson infecting nature
now that i think about it it sounds so cool
or its just redwood giant that ate too many driftwood and just puke all over the moon
wise stag
definitely the redwood puke
open laurel
how much does the icy hammer slow enemies by in % of their normal movement speed, and for how long per hit?
Does icy hammer slow the rate they attack as well? Or is it exclusively just movement speed and they still attack at vanilla intervals?
wise stag
just movement speed, it specifically slows down their acceleration for 5 seconds
open laurel
by how much?
wise stag
80%
in my testing it wasnt really noticeable much so i'd have to do more tests if people dont notice it either
open laurel
if isn't noticeable enough, could always go to 100%, just lock them in place like they're 'frozen' for 3 seconds instead of 5 or something, just to ensure it's useful no matter what enemies of varying default acceleration speeds you use it against
I wouldn't be surprised if it was virtually the same as a shovel when used against a thumper because he ramps up in acceleration so stupidly fast if you try to run from him
wise stag
yeah thats what ill prolly do tbh
fickle hill
Wouldn't 100% be broken?
Easiest bracken kill of my life
Or anything for that matter
wise stag
then i should make the icy hammer deal 0 damage!
fickle hill
That's a good idea
Or maybe it can crit dealing 0% slow and 1 damage
It's a highly effective stun but it can't stunlock everything forever
Oh nevermind the swing speed would negate that
So yeah just the freeze in place for 3-5 seconds
Only issue is players may not intuitively know it doesnt deal damage
wise stag
i coulda swore the min and max flower count weren't working
nah they work
keep in mind the abundance is for each flower
not for all of them together
shadow kernel
ohhh
shadow kernel
so 10 to 35 flowers would be 10 to 35 of EACH flower
not 10 to 35 flowers in total
wise stag
mhm
shadow kernel
okay i see
opaque spoke
Are there flowers for each climate or is it jus forest flowers
shadow kernel
yeesh
wise stag
Are there flowers for each climate or is it jus forest flowers
forest desert snowy
opaque spoke
Peak…
wise stag
mostly config based
cuz i cant predetermine what a custom moon's tag is
so custom moons spawn all 3 by default unless u tell it otherwise
opaque spoke
Dub
mild storm
do you have flowers for underwater moons?
mild storm
thorny shuttle
wouldn't it be possible to do the same way as celestial tint
wise stag
how that mod does it isnt really maintainble
i cant always trust mooners to moon
like seichi does all its foliage wrong
cough @autumn pagoda
mild storm
cuz mooners gonna moon moon moon
autumn pagoda
its just lackin
wise stag
yeah ur stuff is so great it just is setup wrong
autumn pagoda
why?
wise stag
wdym why
tacit badge
mhm
shoulda probably clarified in the config how that worked, makes sense how there were so many
autumn pagoda
everything is correctly placed what are you on about?
opaque spoke
https://tenor.com/view/seals-kroshik-the-seal-galumphing-gif-1107729721645630577...
I like how violently the thing rocks back and forth, it’s so funny
wise stag
everything is correctly placed what are you on about?
no? you have all ur foliage etc placed in randommapobjects
tacit badge
https://tenor.com/view/seals-kroshik-the-seal-galumphing-gif-1107729721645630577...
the bumper
wise stag
thats not what randommapobjects is for
wise stag
where do you have your trees placed
in the hierarchy
props container* not randommapobjects
randommapobjects is the internal name
autumn pagoda
they are prefabs called in thru my SelectableLevel in its SpawnableMapObjects
wise stag
thats not what a hierarchy is
autumn pagoda
cuz rn me and Nikki are fixing Gorgonzola shiz
autumn pagoda
this stuff
they are not in that hierarchy at all
my trees are not part of the scene itself
wise stag
i wasnt showing a specific hierarchyh here
tacit badge
average of 20 * 50 which is 1k
why did you make it spawn a certain amount of each as opposed to making a certain amount spawn and assigning different flowers randomly to each one that spawns? curious
wise stag
i was showing you what a hierarchy is
wise stag
why did you make it spawn a certain amount of each as opposed to making a certai...
no reason
lol
autumn pagoda
i was showing you what a hierarchy is
ik what a hierarchy is but i dont have my trees in my hierarchy cuz they are randomly spawned in
tacit badge
this means that all flower types for the biome spawn every time?
wise stag
this means that all flower types for the biome spawn every time?
for custom moons yes unless you change the config
cuz i cant just automatically be like "oh yeah vertigo, thats a desert moon"
tacit badge
nono that's not what I mean
hybrid flume
Just automate your code.
wise stag
Just automate your code.
thats why i have you
wise stag
You need to feed me first.
i got snacks
hybrid flume
Gimme gimme gimme
wise stag
i got bbq pringles
tacit badge
hm?
the current system as I understand it makes all plant types designated to a biome type spawn 100% of the time, no?
wise stag
flaming hot max
uhh
some candy
kitkats
i just went on a hike so i was fully stocked up and we barely ate anything
wise stag
the current system as I understand it makes all plant types designated to a biom...
yeah, they have a min and max for each flower in that biome
tacit badge
like you said there's roughly 50 for every biome and so if you set the config to 20 it'll be 20 x 50
tacit badge
yeah I think if you just made the config mean amount of plants total and assigned them different plant types in that biome category at random it'd make for more variety
cuz technically you'll see the same plant type distribution every visit
so you won't be like "oh that plant's pretty, I've never seen that" or smth
wise stag
just because of how randomness works, unless i specify program lower chance for some plants, itll be the same result
hybrid flume
tacit badge
just because of how randomness works, unless i specify program lower chance for ...
i mean you'll still have higher density of one specific type
because it's random
it wouldn't cycle through every single one like you're doing rn
it would just pick one at random, no?
wise stag
<a:ratshook:772364405287157781>
shhhh thats for example code for implementations like spawning stuff on round start hehe
tacit badge
also it would make the config a little bit more simple to understand
wise stag
it would just pick one at random, no?
yes, but random will almost never have highs and lows
tacit badge
(monkey brain)
tacit badge
yes, but random will almost never have highs and lows
you can't really predict random though, you never know
wise stag
you cant, but u can get pretty close
tacit badge
still think it would be more interesting, but the current systems... fine I guess?
I'll just have to turn the flora config waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down lmao
wise stag
really? the current default looked fine when i was testing
numbers wont really mean anything to you without testing prior
even if i say "this amount will spawn" and u put like 1500
that wont mean anything to you
tacit badge
really? the current default looked fine when i was testing
yes lmao
wise stag
i mean if its a custom moon itll be 3x the intended amount
unless previously configured*
tacit badge
it's mostly fine, but I'd rather have a few pretty plants scattered about rather than having the whole floor covered with bright ass plants
either that or patches of them
wise stag
lol
yeah i considered doing patches
and im still considering it
cuz i also thought some plant types fit a patches type spawning
tacit badge
you should, it would make it a lot more digestible visually imo, esp with the brighter ones
tacit badge
cuz i also thought some plant types fit a patches type spawning
especially those tall ones
wise stag
it wouldnt work for every plant type, but if u remember the flower ones that looped around
those would do great
tacit badge
those look really out of place by themselves
tacit badge
it wouldnt work for every plant type, but if u remember the flower ones that loo...
you mean those that have some leaves on the side that look kinda spindly?
wise stag
the ones u originally commented were too saturated
tacit badge
uuuh
ohh yeah those
I still feel like there's some really saturated plants in the selection, but it's gotten better
hybrid flume
Do you need most of the variables of the crate public?
Or they just for the editor thing?
wise stag
Or they just for the editor thing?
they just for the editor
@hybrid flume thats really funny :3
hybrid flume
ClientNetworkTransform?
wise stag
ClientNetworkTransform?
zeekerss has a builtin client network transform, which is a fake, so i had to make my own thats directly copy pasted from the docs
hybrid flume
Lol ok
wise stag
oh hell nah what's next? crimson?
probably
then hallow
then all 3 at once
corruption go br
viscid rock
then all 3 at once
just add eye of cthulu at this point
viscid rock
corruption go br
dude wait that reminds me
wise stag
loool
viscid rock
Im trying to find the image this reminds me of
flat tusk
corruption go br
how are you doing this?
mild storm
viscid rock
corruption go br
that time when this wierd corruption spread on da fortnite island
atcually it looks more like this
(ignore the circles)
wise stag
how are you doing this?
decal projector
wise stag
that time when this wierd corruption spread on da fortnite island
lol, im the next fortnite
viscid rock
so is it gonna have some curing mechanic like clearing the weeds, or is that classified information?
wise stag
i dont really do classified information
i dont get mod devs who hide stuff really hard
if someone asks ill just tell em what im doign
viscid rock
i dont really do classified information
no I mean since it's a sneak peek and all
wise stag
oh i mean im just showing off the current progress lol
it'll basically destroy all vegetation and replace it with stuff
what exactly? not too sure yet
thorny shuttle
is that gatorade on the left
hybrid flume
what exactly? not too sure yet
Death!
viscid rock
what exactly? not too sure yet
angry, minimum wage employee eating plants?
wise stag
probably yeah
viscid rock
wait you should make some fungus plant, I hate fungi, they look like alien plants that want me dead with their spores
viscid rock
fungi from the game astroneer would go hard,
there are like spike fungi that extract spikes when you get too close, fungi that explode when you get too close, fungi that emit gas, and fungi that launch you when you step on them
wise stag
also this doesnt really need any custom scripts for someone who would ask like @flat tusk
all it is, starting from a small gameobject decal project and just scaling it up
im literally just using this image
it'd be really neat if someone actually made this properly transparent
LOL
flat tusk
what do you mean by transparent?
wise stag
you see the grey and white cubes? those are part of the image
a lot of google images trick me like that 😔
they're not very noticeable ingame since they're very dark
wise stag
true 😔
flat tusk
is this good enough....
wise stag
tbh probably is
viscid rock
I managed to get this with photoshop select by color @wise stag
viscid rock
there's still "some" cubes
viscid rock
holy jeebers my man did it
thorny shuttle
it comes in multiple colors too lol
viscid rock
you can just go to the source
wait how did you do that anyways?
thorny shuttle
just reverse image search on google
fickle hill
Corruption Effect Ideas:
VEIL SHROUD: Purple Vain Shrouds afflicted by the Corruption. They cannot host Kidnapper Foxes and Foxes die to the corruption. Veil Shrouds however pose a direct threat to your health, slowly dealing damage and slightly reducing movespeed through. Furthermore, enemies that are mostly covered become highly transparent, so it's difficult to spot them. This can work to your benefit; enemies relying on vision to see you will need to be 75% closer to spot you.
wise stag
just reverse image search on google
lol, fair
thorny shuttle
sent to a website and downloading it from there gave the actual transparent version of it
wise stag
can u sent the website u ogt it from since theres multiple versions?
wise stag
perfect ty
oh theres a red one, great
it's also just higher quality lol
yo this website is amazing
bunch of decal textures
viscid rock
https://www.citypng.com/photo/15579/transparent-hd-glowing-purple-energy-ball
wait how did you donwload it as a png tho
viscid rock
oh there were so many fake download buttons I thought there was none
thorny shuttle
Yeah
It's why I sent the image because I went there without an adblocker and it was just, riddled with fake download buttons
is pretty clean with ad block though
fickle hill
Corrupted Vines: Vines wait for a player or enemy to walk over them, then ensnare them for 5 seconds. This will deal weak damage and steal players/mimics stamina. Vines near trees will wrap around trees, mostly for visual flare. Vines can be destroyed with a melee weapon. If a Forest Keeper walks over these vines, they will be rooted for 20 seconds and begin a transformation.
viscid rock
holy shit that reminds me when I thought alot about a modded hazard thats basically just a bear trap
mild storm
So code rebirth should turn lethal into a 2d pixel art game where you can mine and craft and fight bosses with various biomes
hybrid flume
thorny shuttle
I think it'd be cool if there was a giant slime ball with a crown as a boss
mild storm
Could call it Code rebiaria
thorny shuttle
maybe like a person inside it for lore implications too
and then the boss has a slime ball wife
viscid rock
I think that there should be this giant wall right? And its like moving and has eyes n stuff, cool part is that its in the hell biome, but wanna know the best part?
what if the wall was made out of flesh?
fickle hill
Corrupted Keepers: Forest Keepers overtaken by Corrupted Vines. They're wrapped so tightly that their normal eye is blocked out. The Corrupted Keeper no longer rely on eyesight, rather a proximity sensation. As the Corrupted Keeper lives, it's proximity detection range gradually increases. It will not sense players on the ship and pathfinds away from the ship quicker, but if you cannot counter the Corrupted Keeper you should use its existence as a timer for how long you can stay on the moon.
viscid rock
Now I wanna make terraria scrap, but I have no idea how to do so because the tutorials out there require me to know how to CODE
wise stag
after the first quota u get the message "The ancient spirits of light and dark have been released.", what do you guys think? have i cooked?
fickle hill
I'm very much spitballing on the fly
thorny shuttle
after the first quota u get the message "The ancient spirits of light and dark h...
so hard
fickle hill
🤨
viscid rock
waitin for some cool modder to make a bear trap..
fickle hill
i know ooblterra has them
i dont know if they can spawn outside of that moon however
viscid rock
oh no offense against ooblterra, but me and my friends can NOT survive in there for longer than one minute
viscid rock
i dont know if they can spawn outside of that moon however
but its specifically on ooblterra right?
thorny shuttle
Should be able to allow them to spawn elsewhere in it's config
viscid rock
I don't really want to download that big of a mod if a single piece of it is all im using
shadow kernel
btw is there like a config option to determine how far the tornado flings you?
viscid rock
what if I download ooblterra, but remove all the enemies in the config (I dislike the entities, again no hate against the mod)
wise stag
btw is there like a config option to determine how far the tornado flings you?
nop, really hard to cap the math on that rn
solid hedge
damn someone spilled some red monster
Are you going to make your Plants despawn when hitted by the corruption?
wise stag
ye
solid hedge
Oh thats really cool
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hallow
that is NOT what the hallowed looks like
I really like the pinkish one btw, and the red one
wise stag
that is NOT what the hallowed looks like
Eh it's not too far
tacit badge
are these actually supposed to be terraria evil biomes?
wise stag
Yeah that's the inspiration
tacit badge
are you hellbent on the colors? you could probability lean more into the halloweds actual grass coloration for the third one or do a more different color altogether that's closer to green or yellow so it feels different from the others
wise stag
Nah I'm not hellbent on colours, most stuff needs to just be easy on the eyes en masse
Dark blue, red sometimes, purple, usually easy and fine
I dont want tornados 2.0 where I have a fartnado
tacit badge
Nah I'm not hellbent on colours, most stuff needs to just be easy on the eyes en...
sounds good
wise stag
Fart biome is NOT incoming
tacit badge
I dont want tornados 2.0 where I have a fartnado
oh god you're learning from your mistakes
wise stag
Lol
tacit badge
Dark blue, red sometimes, purple, usually easy and fine
I mean if you tone down the saturation any color can look "natural"
wise stag
Yeah that's the thing, saturation just doesn't seem to exist with these things
If I tone down on brightness
They just take that as transparency
Which is related to some degree
But it means I can't do dark colours
tacit badge
the problem with your tornadoes was that they were here (1) instead of here (2) in terms of colors
can't you just... change the texture
to be less saturated
wise stag
Maybe? It's a few other things and not just the texture that are being put into the material
modern cradle
the problem with your tornadoes was that they were here (1) instead of here (2) ...
thats what i was thinking
tacit badge
fair enough, but most of the time I feel if you just had someone there to give you a better color hex code all your aesthetic problems would be fixed lmao
I could be wrong though
also here's a few good hallowed color codes:
82DDFA
4CBFDA
A0E3FA
tacit badge
LMAO idrc if you forget, I picked these out in like 5 seconds
they might not be great cuz of the game's shading yadda yadda
and i'm also not the best w colors
wise stag
Infamous biod textures lies on camera
wise stag
@hybrid flume extra big commit, lots of love, I sleep now
tacit badge
my shit is mid
tacit badge
Infamous biod textures lies on camera
did you mean to say texturer
how do my textures lie
night beacon
why is the Corruption on the moons 😱
upper mural
a cool idea, where you can basically go into mud that spawns, and rather that killing you, it teleports you into the facility
viscid rock
Should be able to allow them to spawn elsewhere in it's config
wait, how do you configure hazards though? I've only been able to do enemies and interiors n stuff using Lethal quantities. Also I CANNOT find the config, it's only ingame, and even ingame it doesn'T let you configure it in detail
thorny shuttle
it's WTO in r2
and it's the first option under Modpack Controls
but yeah it's only if it's only ooblterra interior or all moons I think
viscid rock
bit of a shame, since custom hazards is the thing I wanted to configure
viscid rock
but yeah it's only if it's only ooblterra interior or all moons I think
darn, so I need someone to make bear traps afterall
void tiger
Does anyone know what else can go here besides 'custom' and 'vanilla'? I'm trying to set up the different scraps to spawn on specific moons and can't get it working using their names. the default values and terms work as expected
ive learned now that its an issue with custom moons and lethal level loader, base game moon names being inputed work as expected
sorry!
open laurel
instead of doubling damage, the crit stuns
should give a unique crit effect for each of the weapons, make Nature's Mace crit heal + a temporary acceleration speed boost or something
valid drum
should give a unique crit effect for each of the weapons, make Nature's Mace cri...
The Nature Mace's healing ability doesn't even work properly atm anyways
We tested yesterday
LOL
odd briar
Red line
odd briar
Yeah
wise stag
it's a harmless one but i didnt realise it was there multiple times lol
odd briar
Once after matty fixes, then another after lobby compatibility loaded
wise stag
can i see?
it shouldnt matter, ill change it to a warning, but i didnt realise it would be sent more than once lol
wise stag
ah... testaccountfixes might be breaking something important on my end lol
odd briar
wise stag
matty's stuff should be fine
@tepid solar right?
me and matty talked ahead of time about making his stuff compatible with what my transpiler does
odd briar
That is all of the red code rebirth lines so far
tepid solar
<@402567749479432195> right?
uh?
odd briar
I'm glad
odd briar
Just thought I'd point um out just incase
wise stag
additional networking and matty fixes triggers my logerror that tells me it cant find the stuff lol
wise stag
Just thought I'd point um out just incase
yee nw
odd briar
tepid solar
yeah mattyfixes entirely rewrites the drop item code but i made sure it is compatible with your patch
Additional Networking does not use any transpliers at all so ❓
wise stag
Additional Networking does not use any transpliers at all so ❓
i dont use transpilers often so idk why the log was triggered while additional networking was loading lol
tepid solar
the right question is why your ILHook triggers twice?
wise stag
is that whats happening? cuz i have no clue kek
tepid solar
yeah two identical lines about the ILHook not finding the IL
wise stag
i just assumed whenever someone patched the discardheldobject it'd rerun my transpiler for whatever reaason
tepid solar
ILHook is not a transplier btw so i do not really know how they work ( comapared to harmony )
tepid solar
also it's true that MattyFixes rewrites the drop code but i never remove any of the og code so you shoud still be able to match the IL
wise stag
oh surfaced does the exact same patch and they have surfaced on so its probably why
the patch itself probably should be its own mod
wise stag
yeah, i wrote the patch into their mod, its fine to have multiple mods with that same patch lol
tepid solar
if they check for each other presence yes.. if they all apply the patch regardless you might get some weird duplication 😅
wise stag
if they check for each other presence yes.. if they all apply the patch regardle...
nah it should be fine the way it's written
tepid solar
it all depends on the code. that's why i said might. 😅
wise stag
yee
wise stag
ILHook is not a transplier btw so i do not really know how they work ( comapared...
also afaik this is a transpiler lol
tepid solar
wise stag
ye
wise stag
definition i was given: "google transpiler, it's basically turning a thing from a language to another language (in this case, C# to (C)IL)"
tepid solar
i mean sure.
hybrid flume
Technically, yes.
tepid solar
but from my experience here we call HarmonyTranspliers Transpliers and MonoMod ILHooks well ILHooks 😅
tepid solar
i'm jsut using the naming conventions i've absorbed by beeing in this discord tbh
not sure what the correct way of calling thems would be
wise stag
neither do i lol
analog crystal
Additional Networking does not use any transpliers at all so ❓
Btw Harmony actually works by adding prefixes and postfixes through transpiling
also fun fact, when Harmony adds a postfix, it modifies return instructions to branch instructions, to branch to the end of the method where it runs the postfixes
analog crystal
also fun fact, when Harmony adds a postfix, it modifies return instructions to b...
this is actually kinda important to know, for compatibility
analog crystal
@wise stag Btw if you want, I can do some tweaks to the ILHook to analyze the reason why the ILHook failed to get information like if the thing your ILHook wants to do is already there, and also I could make it print if everything is indeed fucked
ocean meteor
also fun fact, when Harmony adds a postfix, it modifies return instructions to b...
Makes sense but easily missed
wise stag
<@514120543046336516> Btw if you want, I can do some tweaks to the ILHook to ana...
that'd be nice, i might also just make it a standalone mod later
analog crystal
that'd be nice, i might also just make it a standalone mod later
Oke, but yeah I can fork it and open a pr if you'd like
wise stag
u can do dat or just send the code, whichever u prefer
analog crystal
Also tho btw if AdditionalNetworking and Matty's Fixes only use Harmony, I guess HarmonyX does indeed trigger ILHooks to minimize compatibility issues
analog crystal
u can do dat or just send the code, whichever u prefer
oke
holy shit, CodeRebirth is massive
wise stag
lol
nah its only like 20mb of assets
and 600kb+ of code
though idk what measurement that really is
lgu still higher at 1mb of code 😔
analog crystal
is there a lot of shit in the history then?
wise stag
wdym?
wise stag
oh no it's definitely absolutely massive, i was kidding
analog crystal
oh lol
wise stag
the reworked redwood code is there, some code for some hidden stuff i work on is also there
analog crystal
zamn
solid hedge
the reworked redwood code is there, some code for some hidden stuff i work on is...
It's the Redwood almost ready
wise stag
dunno, still waiting on model and textures
solid hedge
Ah ok
wise stag
dine has been consumed
viscid rock
how come snailcats and cutieflies stopped spawning for me? I changed the values for some modded moons in the config, even put them at numbers like 100 and I am not seeing a single snailcat
maybe a typo is causing some errors? idk
viscid rock
oh they can influence that? dang
wise stag
ye
wise stag
I dont really get how people do changelogs
Moon people make one changelog the size of an elephant.
Meanwhile I added 5 enemies, 3 biome types, some fixes and balances, tens of hours of work.
And the changelog is like 5 lines
ocean meteor
You put enough so people know what changed. Essays are tedious to read through, put that in the read me
wise stag
Yeah it's what I plan to do, it's not like it demotivates me or anything, I'm just hella confused 😂
night beacon
Moon people make one changelog the size of an elephant.
Meanwhile I added 5 enem...
I had this with a different community, where the modder fixed a bunch of bugs, then proceeds to list every single bug that was patched out 💀💀💀
even tho its mostly unnecessary.
ocean meteor
I do tend to credit people that find bugs as a show of gratitude, but would group them up
ocean meteor
Cool name actually
outer juniper
Hi
Is there a way to change the colors of the tornadoes? They feel too vibrant to me
autumn pagoda
Is there a way to change the colors of the tornadoes? They feel too vibrant to m...
I’ve been in Xu’s ears because of this for a while, she wants to tweak them a little but its not that easy. Hopefully she’ll figure it out soon ^^
wise stag
You've never brought this up to me
wise stag
Is there a way to change the colors of the tornadoes? They feel too vibrant to m...
I made em as transparent as I could, the config can let u isolate one's you like, I recommend keeping smoke, water and blood
autumn pagoda
You've never brought this up to me
We had talked about this many times lol
wise stag
Literally never
analog crystal
lol
autumn pagoda
😩 i should probably make github reports maybe then you’d remember
tacit badge
You've never brought this up to me
we've brought up the color of them multiple times to you xu-chan
tacit badge
Is there a way to change the colors of the tornadoes? They feel too vibrant to m...
usually all I do is just make the smoke one the only one that spawns
wise stag
We is not inclusion of s1ckboy
tacit badge
but you lose out on the mechanics of the others
wise stag
Plus they're like a lot better rn idk if you've even seen em
tacit badge
We is not inclusion of s1ckboy
i'm pretty sure we all mentioned it to you at some point
tacit badge
Plus they're like a lot better rn idk if you've even seen em
nah I haven't
wise stag
Nah idek who s1ckboy is
autumn pagoda
Nah idek who s1ckboy is
Hey Xu! s2ckboy here can you do something about the vibrant colours? I heard they are really saturated
hot light
probly knows you. he put you in the Seichi mod
autumn pagoda
probly knows you. ~~he put you in the Seichi mod~~
I have no clue what you are talking about 
autumn pagoda
oh you're talking to s1ckboy mb
Sometimes she forgets who she timedout on her private server 11 times 
viscid rock
oh well, I have poor memory too
wise stag
Hey Xu! s2ckboy here can you do something about the vibrant colours? I heard the...
Ur username is still s1ckboy
reef hatch
Would it be possible to add per-moon configs for the tornados so that I can, for example, make Water tornadoes on water moons, or the yellow tornado on Gorgonzola, etc?
autumn pagoda
Oh thats actually a great idea
wise stag
S1ckboy no one asked you
wise stag
Would it be possible to add per-moon configs for the tornados so that I can, for...
I'll see if I can do that, it might get pretty repetitive and weird in the configs though
autumn pagoda
reef hatch
That's fine, could also allow it by tags so that it's a bit easier
Like for example Ocean:Water,Smoke or something
autumn pagoda
You could actually use contenttags 🤔
Oh bad internet i didnt see Nikkis comment lol
wise stag
S1ckboy the biggest rider in the universe, have an original thought wen
spice bear
Would it be possible to add per-moon configs for the tornados so that I can, for...
id love that :P
then i could put fire on infernis, water on atlantica, etc
also is there a sandstorm tornado thing? if so then put that on etern, assurance, offence, artifice and embrion :P
wise stag
It's a yellow one to symbolise lighting but maybe
spice bear
maybe put it in the duststorm unusded weather
wise stag
So it never sees the light of day? 😭
spice bear
my brain shut off, i use the dust storm on a few moons so i just was like "oh ye thatll work"
viscid rock
maybe those moons dont allow daytime spawns?
I think lethalquantities is messing with it? Idk redwood giants work perfectly. I checked in lethalquantities, no snailcats, only cutieflies, which never seem to spawn either. I guess I'll just copy redwood giant spawning curves n stuff over to snailcats n cutie
flies
open laurel
picking up coins with the wallet doesn't remove their yellow triangles from radar view btw, confuses ship duty into giving false guidance info @wise stag
jovial notch
Work with me for a month and you'll be lucky I remember ur name
what's my name
mild storm
you're Heisenberg...
opaque spoke
Slight problem on Embrion
Since spawn nodes are on the boulders, and tornados are technically entities, a tornado can get itself stuck by merely spawning on the boulders
opaque spoke
Is it true that windy and meteor shower reduce the power level of moons it's on?
valid drum
Is it true that windy and meteor shower reduce the power level of moons it's on?
Idek why they do tbh
I feel like the feature of it reducing power levels is sorta pointless
opaque spoke
What the fuck?
The lessens the fun and chaos of the game
Xu, please add a config option to disable that crap
hybrid flume
Outside power*
While increasing inside power.
opaque spoke
That doesn't make it any better
thorny shuttle
it was changed to increase inside power?
hybrid flume
Right now it does.
thorny shuttle
weird to not have that in change log
hybrid flume
And I don't really care because it's Xu who's doing the mod, not me.
So it's their decision how they want to make it.
If they feel Meteor shower and tornado replaces 3 power from outside.
Then let them be.
opaque spoke
Well, it affects my experience with its inclusion in my modpack, so I'd like an option for it to be changed, not that it should be removed outright.
lapis flax
Well, it affects my experience with its inclusion in my modpack, so I'd like an ...
good luck with that 🫡
they're not the fan of user-configurability, so we'll see where it goes 🥺
thorny shuttle
they're not the fan of user-configurability, so we'll see where it goes 🥺
when did xu ever say this
lapis flax
#1241786100201160784 message
opaque spoke
?? Why should I suck it up if it isn't overall enjoyable
It's such a small thing too, so she shouldn't have an issue against it
thorny shuttle
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1241786100201160784/12688709373...
pretty sure this partially goes against what you're saying lol
and wasn't that entire conversation more-so why does the API have the configurability
lapis flax
i'm assuming that based on the fact that it's doing this for 2 weeks without a config
so it's not designed to be configurable
lapis flax
and wasn't that entire conversation more-so why does the *API* have the configur...
also yes
thorny shuttle
I'd imagine no effort is being put into making it a config because no one asked for it
till now of course
thorny shuttle
and also that it's not in your face and you're probably not gonna really notice it in-game without looking at changelog
hybrid flume
or no one noticed because it didn't cause any issues 🤭
It should though from what I am seeing. 
thorny shuttle
(in which case it says that both inside and outside get decreased power level)
opaque spoke
(in which case it says that both inside and outside get decreased power level)
That just makes the game marginally cheesier
Makes moons like Artifice or Embrion a cakewalk
I've noticed it too
thorny shuttle
it's because of how annoying Tornado can be and how deadly Meteor Shower is
opaque spoke
That goes for every weather
thorny shuttle
Tornado mostly
Meteor Shower not really
Other weathers that have killing capabilities is almost entirely reliant on player input
Meteor Shower is on a different level of hard since it can be hard to predict trajectory of a meteor
opaque spoke
That's the same thing with windy and meteor shower; it's your fault if you get in the way of a tornado/meteor. Every weather is designed to be a hindrance, so when there's no option to revert it back to vanilla difficulty is kind of ick
opaque spoke
Yuh, learning and adapting makes it easier
This is Lethal Company, not Haven Corporation
Also that rhymed
ADD A SPACE LASER ORBITAL STRIKE WEATHER THAT CRASHES YOUR GAME AND DELETES YOUR HIGH QUOTA SAVE FILE HA HA /j
plucky sedge
ADD A SPACE LASER ORBITAL STRIKE WEATHER THAT CRASHES YOUR GAME AND DELETES YOUR...
💥
lapis flax
ADD A SPACE LASER ORBITAL STRIKE WEATHER THAT CRASHES YOUR GAME AND DELETES YOUR...
👀 on it
opaque spoke
Bread hates this one simple trick!
wise stag
I'm confused, it's part of the weather's difficulty for it to reduce outside power and increase inside power
Plus, when I pushed this it was well received
wise stag
what's my name
Dunno but do you go by mine/xu's? :p
Anyway, it makes a helluva lot of sense for monsters to migrate inside of the facility
From outside
opaque spoke
Whoops wrong emoji
wise stag
If there's a literal natural disaster outside
opaque spoke
Artipoint
The game feels a lot easier in the weather's current state
Also by your logic, the entities would evacuate into the facilities during a storm/flood too
wise stag
For flooded probably yes, it literally only makes sense, but I don't control vanilla weather
opaque spoke
Regardless, it makes the game easier and I don't enjoy that
I don't want outright removal, just a config option to disable the power level nerf
wise stag
Also if it feels easier, there's a million ways to make the weather's harder in the config
It's not even that much, it's like one less dog outside
opaque spoke
It's significant enough for me to notice
Moons with tornados and meteor showers have been easier than every other vanilla weather
wise stag
Then increase the meteors min and max spawns lol, it's definitely not easier than stormy weather, rainy, and I'd say flooded too
But when I increase difficulty people complained a lot more
opaque spoke
People won't complain when the config option is off by default
valid drum
I'm confused, it's part of the weather's difficulty for it to reduce outside pow...
Ah I thought it only lowered the power levels
lol
My b
wise stag
picking up coins with the wallet doesn't remove their yellow triangles from rada...
I'll fix that soon ty
wise stag
I think lethalquantities is messing with it? Idk redwood giants work perfectly. ...
One is daytime one is outside so idk tbh
thorny shuttle
tbpf
when the power stuff was added it was worded that they decrease both inside and outside
wise stag
I'll make a config option for the power level stuff but I don't see any reason why decreasing outside and increasing inside makes things less difficult
hybrid flume
I'll make a config option for the power level stuff but I don't see any reason w...
Maybe the issue I found.
It should be in the branch for you to see anyways.
opaque spoke
No idea, but that's been my experience
Maybe my 900 hours just grew me more used to things like this
wise stag
Maybe the issue I found.
Oh I'll give it a look
hybrid flume
Because I didn't find a revert back thing, you know?
So it seemed it would go endlessly so long as you keep getting the weathers on the moon.
wise stag
So it seemed it would go endlessly so long as you keep getting the weathers on t...
ah true, i would've thought it'd revert automatically and reset when the visit ended but maybe not
opaque spoke
Me when every single entity is thrown my way on any weather: I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME THIS SHIT IS AGONIZING I'M GOING TO GORE MY STOMACH AND MUSH MY ORGANS INTO A FINE MIST
Me when they're nerfed a slight bit on windy and meteor shower: This is too easy :(
reef hatch
I feel that though
opaque spoke
It's not a game you love unless you tell it to kill itself in more ways than one
reef hatch
I don't notice it on Meteor Shower but have noticed it on Windy moons that already have really low power like Aquatis
opaque spoke
I mainly noticed it on Rend
It felt like the interior was the same, but the exterior was nerfed
reef hatch
Just go to Dine instead, I'm sure the Butlers will be happy to see you 
opaque spoke
Rend and Dine are opposites in my modpack
Rend mainly houses the butlers, and Dine mainly houses the nutcrackers
reef hatch
Really? I can't walk 5 feet in Dine without the butt men
Nutcrackers like me on USC Vortex
wise stag
It felt like the interior was the same, but the exterior was nerfed
if i could i'd add more opportunities for shit to spawn, but i havent looked into how the game does that yet
reef hatch
walks in front door, 3 players are wiped by shotgun blast
wise stag
cuz increasing and decreasing power level doesn't actually do much at the level of removing and adding 3
opaque spoke
if i could i'd add more opportunities for shit to spawn, but i havent looked int...
Isn't it through spawn curves
Probably the most complex thing to edit?
hybrid flume
The weathers don't mess with curves.
opaque spoke
Not vanilla ones they don't
wise stag
nah it's just a two hour timer i think that the game decides to spin te wheel and spawn something
hybrid flume
What you are experiencing is probably the issue we were talking about earlier.
wise stag
yeah i probably permanently disfigured moons that had meteor shower or windy
opaque spoke
I played more than one round of meteor shower of Rend, so it wasn't just a one-time thing
wise stag
unless you reloaded lobby*
hybrid flume
Cool
So it got 6 instead of 3.
If you landed again on it, it would be 9.
And so on and forth.
While it was supposed to be only three.
opaque spoke
Rephrase?
hybrid flume
It's a code issue.
wise stag
basically, the weather on spawn decreased 3 outside and increased 3 inside
opaque spoke
Oh, you're talking to Xu
wise stag
but i never reverted this when the weather ended
so if u had meteor shower on rend twice
it'd become decrease 6 outside
and increase 6 inside
hybrid flume
And repeats whenever you land on the moon with either weather.
When the purpose was just decrease by three.
opaque spoke
The nerf/buff multiplies each time you land?
hybrid flume
By accident, yes.
opaque spoke
Odd
wise stag
not multiplies, but additively worsens
opaque spoke
Slight problem on Embrion
Oh yeah, did you see this? My current convo overshadowed this
wise stag
oh yeah, a lot of enemies have issues with these spawn nodes
im not sure how else to sum it up other than zeekerss skill issue
driftwoods got stuck there
redwoods too
not surprised tornados got stuck
opaque spoke
It's weird how Zeekerss allowed old birds to walk off the other boulders (Including the buildings) but not this one
hybrid flume
Just spawn in the air bruh.
wise stag
they cant walk off
they fly off
but yeah, it's just that the hill is too steep
for the enemies to grasp that this is walkable
wise stag
oh other boulders idk, this one in specific has the spawn node at the top and unable to go down
opaque spoke
It's weird how they can't fly off anyways because old bird's actual physical body (Not the model) noclips through the map
plucky sedge
Rend mainly houses the butlers, and Dine mainly houses the nutcrackers
i have never seen a butler there LIES :artipoint:
wise stag
dine is zeekerss testing playground 100%
opaque spoke
i have never seen a butler there LIES :artipoint:
The anomalous entities on Rend and Dine are more overshadowed by the natural and artificial ones, that's why
plucky sedge
opaque spoke
dine is zeekerss testing playground 100%
True...
wise stag
every new enemy gets like 80 spawn weight there for no reason
opaque spoke
We need barber on Rend
Barber's mechanics fits the name of Rend
Well, most entities do kind of
plucky sedge
plucky sedge
We need barber on Rend
we need tulips on all moons 😔
plucky sedge
opaque spoke
They're gonna be added to Embrion but with only of a weight of one due to lore reasons
plucky sedge
NOOO TULIP HOARD ....
opaque spoke
I also think I should add hawks to Dine and move Leviathans to Rend
plucky sedge
no hawks none
mild storm
Xu quirkylan
wise stag
Xu quirkylan
freakyrigo
opaque spoke
Vanilla entities when there's a literal fucking tornado and molten meteor outside (They don't care):
wise stag
the meteor shower outside damages enemies lol
mild storm
freakyrigo
😏
opaque spoke
The tornado should also throw those fucks into the sky, but I feel like that's too much to suggest
mild storm
Wheres my brucenado xu?
wise stag
it'd probably be easy to do but nahh
opaque spoke
I wouldn't imagine it being easy trying to code that, as well as syncing it
opaque spoke
Wheres my brucenado xu?
True...
wise stag
I wouldn't imagine it being easy trying to code that, as well as syncing it
nah i'd just disable the agent, pick em up and throw em
mild storm
Damn...
mild storm
They think theyll have to kill this guy bruce
opaque spoke
NOO
mild storm
You know its true