Code Rebirth [V§O∆X∆O§]

[tacit badge]

and lethal emotes api for lethal hands

[wise stag]

Those should be fine

There's something else messing with it tho idk what

[open laurel]

oh wait nope, still doesn't work even with everything checking out on LQ's side. Darn, it just won't spawn 'em 😦

[wise stag]

I'll check it out when I'm home

I'm probably missing some stuff for it

[young umbra]

wait why are tornados enemies

[open laurel]

so that I can make a bullshit nightmare moon that spawns 5 of them at once, of course!

[young umbra]

bru-

[tacit badge]

nothing else does player anims afaik

have fun bowling 🔥

[young umbra]

Oh yeah I did notice the snowglobe thing a plethora of times

so BetterEmotes is basically breaking everything?

[open laurel]

I had to get rid of betteremotes when the truck first came out, made the truck undriveable because the player did a weird t-pose when sitting and couldn't physically reach the ignition. BetterEmotes DEFINITELY breaks stuff relating to playermodel animation, even if you'd think it wouldn't

[wise stag]

With animations yeah

[young umbra]

Damn

[open laurel]

@wise stag also, as a totally different bug report, I'm getting a screen hang on Random Seed: when attempting to land on the custom moon of Bomenoren. Here's the error it's spitting out in console whenever I try to.
Here's profile code if you care to reproduce it yourself in case it's a symptom of a larger issue that mmight effect numerous custom moons:
01910423-d526-9033-c584-8f0b2a9874fd

[wise stag]

Hmm will look into it

[solid hedge]

I can't get the flora to spawn on a specific moon how have you done It with Gloom?

[wise stag]

I just wrote gloom

Any errors in logs?

[solid hedge]

Later ill check

[bitter thistle]

no, it looked like I could but I couldn't. It just showed the UI still as if I could

[wise stag]

Hmm weird

[pine ember]

What flora are people talking about? Cause I've not seen any new or unusual flora

[wise stag]

Check ur configs, you might need to set some stuff

They're by default on most vanilla and on all custom moons but can't be on all types of ground

[valid drum]

What made you change Modded to Custom btw?

Oh I see why now

CodeRebirth is using LLL now

[wise stag]

Not entirely

The custom was me switching, internally I take "custom" and swap it out for "modded"

[valid drum]

Ooh

[hazy thicket]

@wise stag is your crate item basically a gift box

[elfin shell]

Could you add a config option to disable the decorative meteors floating in the sky in meteor shower weather?

[blissful knoll]

is?

[wise stag]

In a way yeah

[wise stag]

Uhhh how come?

[spare heron]

same issue with bozoros

[wise stag]

Hmm interesting yeah I just need to get out of bed then I'll take a look

[wise stag]

can i see the configs for the flora?

[wise stag]

also lmk what moon u were trying

[spare heron]

[Flora Options]

## Whether Flora is enabled.
# Setting type: Boolean
# Default value: true
Flora | Enabled = true

## How many plants can get added at most.
# Setting type: Int32
# Default value: 100
Flora | Max Abundance = 100

## How many plants can get added at least.
# Setting type: Int32
# Default value: 50
Flora | Min Abundance = 50

## Flora spawn places e.g. `All,Custom,Vanilla,Experimentation,Assurance,Gloom`.
# Setting type: String
# Default value: Vow,Adamance,March,Custom,
Flora | Grass Spawn Places = Vow,Adamance,March,Custom,

## Flora spawn places e.g. `All,Custom,Vanilla,Experimentation,Assurance,Gloom`.
# Setting type: String
# Default value: Assurance,Offense,Custom,
Flora | Desert Spawn Places = Assurance,Offense,Custom,

## Flora spawn places e.g. `All,Custom,Vanilla,Experimentation,Assurance,Gloom`.
# Setting type: String
# Default value: Dine,Rend,Titan,Custom,
Flora | Snow Spawn Places = Dine,Rend,Titan,Custom,

should be default

[wise stag]

hmm okay so yeah all 3 should be spawning on bozors, imma download and try

[wise stag]

i think i found the problem

testing fix rn

[open laurel]

what are the damage values for all 4 new weapons? and how is crit damage calculated? Does it take what the damage would be and just x2 it or does it add a flat additional +1 or +2 damage to that swing?

[wise stag]

2x's it

all base of 1 damage

25% on hitting something to be a critical

there are configs to change the chance tho

[open laurel]

so they're all nifty shovel reskins as a baseline, but can benefit from LGU's protein powder, meaning they can be made to do up to 3 damage, so the crit will result in 6 damage if synergized with LGU's protein powder damage buff?

[wise stag]

i'd have to ask how whitespike adds damage onto weapons

but i think so?

[open laurel]

damn I gotta test that, I wanna put nature's mace on bomenoren scrap pool and make crit chance 100% so it becomes a super weapon you can only find by braving the doggo forest

[wise stag]

[open laurel]

any lead on why tornados refuse to spawn through LQ btw? or have you not even looked into that yet?

[wise stag]

about to look into it, it's probably because its a half enemy, ill finish adding stuff for it to be fully registered as an enemy but stop any sort of spawning

though with lethal presents it could spawn....

[open laurel]

you are describing a bonus, not a detriment my good sir

[wise stag]

[open laurel]

presents spawning tornados is peak lethal company goofery

[glossy swallow]

that should be a feature honestly 💀

[onyx canyon]

is the tornado this mod?

[wise stag]

si

[onyx canyon]

i just saw it for 1 minute but can i give feedback on the visual?

[open laurel]

if you think the colored tornados are a bit weird or unfitting, just go into the config and set the tornado type from 'random' to 'smoke'. You'd think smoke is just a black tornado but no it's more white with a bit of darker greys, looks the most tornado-y and works the same as the blood tornado (damages you while sucked inside, yeets you after several seconds)

[onyx canyon]

aah ok i saw the green one and thought it was spinning too fast

[wise stag]

blood one randomly damages or heals u, they all have their unique little thing for the mostpart

blue drowns you, yellow has lightning and makes u faster

[wise stag]

theres a problem with bozoros specifically where it doesnt have enough AINodes for me to arbitrarily spawn plants

ill have to rewrite how i choose the positions lol

but it'd mean that the positions get desync'd between players i think?

[spare heron]

hmmmm alright, desync shouldn't be too big of an issue?

since its just floral with no effect shouldn't be bad

[wise stag]

yeah probably, ill test out some more stuff and i need to abandon AINodes as a whole ill just do fully random

[valid drum]

Inb4 my group complains about the desyncs

XD

Anytime we experience any desync someone says something and I'm like "Nooooo" lol

[spare heron]

would having only the host generate the positions and then send that to clients when a world is loaded work?

[wise stag]

i'd need to make all the plants network objects

and considering it'd be like hundreds of network objects

im not sure how good of an idea that is

im just giving the random a massive radius to place stuff randomly rather than near ainodes and see how that does

[spare heron]

hmmmm true yeah

what if you based spawning off of a seed and instead of syncing every object you synced that seed?

[wise stag]

bozoros is also hella big so you'd need to increase the default amount that spawns

[wise stag]

what im trying rn

okay yeah the main problem is that bozoros is insanely huge and doesnt have enough AINodes for me to spawn the plants prettily

[spare heron]

how many do you need?

[wise stag]

oh geez yeah that broke a lot doing what im doing, reverting lol

[wise stag]

it currently has 10 nodes, i'd need like maybe 40 minimum at points of interesting

im surprised enemies even actually route properly on bozoros with only 10

i wonder if there's a way to dynamically check for edges of a cliff, i have a bunch of vines that would probably look good

[storm jewel]

So the new plants have any unique features around them? Also do they generate on every planet or need to be configured?

[wise stag]

theres some defaults but u can change em in the configs

[open laurel]

Bruce from Surfaced has some (but not all) objects visible through him like he's partially transparent. Not sure if it's necessarily Code Rebirth causing this but I suspect somehow it is related to the meteor shower shading effects or something. The meteorite crystals are also see-through in this manner.

[wise stag]

unique features? not currently, but at some point yes

[wise stag]

yeah its the decal, ill take a look ty

[open laurel]

wait, the decal on Bruce? should I toss this to Surfaced dev then?

[wise stag]

nono, the decal is basically the crater texture that i print onto the ground

that's all me

[open laurel]

oooooh okay

am I applying this right for weather registry weights? Meteor Shower is the only weather comprised of 2 words, do I need to remove the space between them to make sure it acknowlegdes the name? Or perhaps do I have to be silly-precise and put in "Meteor Shower (WeatherRegistry)@90" instead because that's the EXACT name shown like all the vanilla names?

[wise stag]

good question

@lapis flax ?

also i found out that my list of plants was running out... then i looked at the other model folder and found another 100 plants

probably gonna add these next

ofc will desaturate etc

[wise stag]

updated list, added 15 i think?

[autumn pagoda]

🙏

They look cool ngl :3

[hybrid flume]

Nom nom.

[wise stag]

good morn

[hybrid flume]

It's like 11 AM but okay.

[wise stag]

okay didnt know 11am was too late to be morning now

[hybrid flume]

public void HitShovel(bool cancel = false)
{
  // Initial gibberish...

  // Vanilla Code
  // bool flag4 = component.Hit(shovelHitForce, forward, previousPlayerHeldBy, playHitSFX: true, 1);
  
  // Tampered
  flag4 = component.Hit(AddAditionalForce(shovelHitForce), forward, previousPlayerHeldBy, playHitSFX: true, 1);

  // Final gibberish...
}

Tada

[wise stag]

i have no idea what this means

but yeah itll work

since its on hitshovel itself

[hybrid flume]

It's mean transpiler.

[wise stag]

uhhh

any ideas what that means whitespike?

[hybrid flume]

Different end of line interpretation mechanisms, I think?

[wise stag]

v0.4.0

• Fixed flora not spawning on some custom moons.
• Metal crate changed to drop non-scrap equipment.
• Added 18 new flora types

[autumn heart]

How valuable can the equipment in there be BTW?

Like can I randomly find a full jetpack in there somehow?

[wise stag]

ye

it's purely random

anything non scrap

[autumn heart]

Interesting

How many items can I find in a single box?

[wise stag]

3

one of my tests got 3 TZP and another got a boombox, stun grenade and a jetpack lol

[autumn heart]

Are modded items also included?

[wise stag]

should be

if they did their stuff right

i dont exactly grab all shop items, i grab all non scrap items

i didnt test with mods really but it should work + uh mapper item might be included? not sure

[autumn heart]

Oh that's interesting

Pretty cool update

[wise stag]

thats all my updates but ty

i forgor about the readme, and while working on it, decided to give the weapons some special effects

[autumn heart]

Oh like when you swing it?

[wise stag]

when u hit an enemy

i.e. icy hammer slows enemies down

also i just realised the particles for being near tornados just arent working anymore

lol

[flat tusk]

does setting flora to specific custom moons work yet?

[wise stag]

Ye

[summer bane]

Unfortunately, I think it still doesn't work

[wise stag]

Whar

Aaaa

Okay I must've missed something somewhere ig

[solid hedge]

I was trying on widerstein and generic

But i think generic don't have the tag grass

But widerstein yes

[wise stag]

Hmm can u send the generic moon name

The ground tag shouldn't look for grass anymore so I'll give it another look, lol

[solid hedge]

Oh ok i will try again

Because when It was looking for grass on widerstein was spawning the flora

But only with modded not the specific name

[wise stag]

There's a few tags it looks for basically

Which all moons should be happy with

It won't spawn on metal etc

[solid hedge]

Ok

Now i check i see you have updated it

[autumn heart]

Yo that's so cool!

[wise stag]

Ye, icy slows, spike deals 2 by default, nature might heal other players

(And enemies)

[solid hedge]

Ok now they spawn on each map👍

But on widerstein they spawn also on the Road

[open laurel]

wait a minute you said all the weapons did a base of 1 damage, but spiky mace is actually 2 damage by default? Are you saying this is a change you made just now or was there a misunderstanding between us earlier?

[wise stag]

The change hasn't been pushed yet

But basically spiky mace will do 2 later (can still crit)

[open laurel]

oh okay, so spiky is going to deal 2 by default

thought you meant it did right now and always had

[solid hedge]

Good job now It works on every moon🙂

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[wise stag]

Ayyy

[open laurel]

does the Flora config allow specific custom moons if you name them? Or is the Custom string just a catch-all to include any custom moons using recognized vanilla terrain textures?

[wise stag]

U can specify any custom moon u want

As long as they're not made of metal it should work

[open laurel]

and do you do that with the moon's name minus its number, or the moon id that usually looks like <name>Level?

[wise stag]

Not too sure, the default/example I have in the contig is what works

Config*

[hazy thicket]

the whole Level thing isn't a naming convention enforced by LLL at all, for what its worth

[tacit badge]

how do you decide what loot is in there? do you grab from the moon's loot table?

[tacit badge]

nicee

feel free to send me em if you need a second opinion

[wise stag]

The metal crate is all non scrap, the wood crate might be that moons loot table

[hazy thicket]

can i perhaps yoinky some of it for a project that may or maynot ever release

we actually have pretty simular ideas just with different intent

[tacit badge]

the metal crate's out?

also what does "might be" mean lmao

like you sometimes grab from the moon's loot table?

or do you just not know

[wise stag]

Go for it yeah

[wise stag]

I forgor

I'll check

Also if u haven't seen batby, the github is public so everything should be clean and easy to see

[wise stag]

It does take the levels scrap yeah

[tacit badge]

ye so they're just x3 gift boxes

good to know mueheheh

[open laurel]

not sure why but every single time I start up the game this value sets back to 3. I keep trying to set it to 1.5 so that the overall chance of a single crate spawning is only about 33%. Can it not accept values that include a decimal or something?

[wise stag]

int means whole numbers

u cant have the abundance of half a crate showing up

[open laurel]

oh shoot, I didn't even see that part lol

[wise stag]

lol

[open laurel]

also, sadly Flora config does not seem to accept specific custom moons, tried to add Junic to make it EVEN MORE lush and jungly, but no dice, no code rebirth flora anywhere 😦

I take it Junic doesn't use an acceptable terrain texture from vanilla, which flora is looking for? Or does Flora simply check where there's nav meshes and randomly place flora objects there for its spawning method?

[flat tusk]

try putting "Custom" in the moons config for the flora

[open laurel]

well the thing is, I don't want flora on all custom moons, I want to specify name by name

but I suppose for sake of seeing if it works, yeah I'll try Custom just to see if Junic will play nice

[flat tusk]

i think the config is bugged and you can only set it for all modded moons instead of specific modded moons

[wise stag]

the problem with custom moons is that they might be done different for each moon creator, my blacklist isn't large, but yeah idk

the config should be working now

tested it with bozoros, gloom

[tacit badge]

synthesis too iirc

[solid hedge]

Yes the config also work on all widerstein and generic moons

[flat tusk]

are custom flora for each moon type planned, instead of just the same grassy foliage for each type?

[wise stag]

? the config has desert, snow and grass type moons

[flat tusk]

i meant they all have the same flower types

[wise stag]

wdym

[solid hedge]

No they are different

[flat tusk]

are they? they seem the same as forest

[wise stag]

snowy style flowers

some desert ones

grass ones

[flat tusk]

oh

trying to test flora and an old bird spawns on experimentation 🥹

[wise stag]

another batch im adding rn (haven't messed with textures etc)

[wise stag]

[flat tusk]

would it be possible to set the mix/max flora for each moon type?

also i think some dead bushes could be good for desert type moons

specifically dislike this one blue plant on desert moons, don't think it fits.

[open laurel]

nope, Junic just refuses to allow code rebirth flora, whether I put Custom or specify Junic 😭

[flat tusk]

testing flora on junic now, it seems to. kinda work? flora only spawns in really specific spots

[wise stag]

the flora spawn near ai nodes

if the ai nodes arent setup right i cant do much about it

ainodes are supposed to be points of interesting

moons like bozoros only have 10

[flat tusk]

that explains it

fission-c flora. wow?

perhaps you should increase its range around ai nodes

[wise stag]

why moon creators putting like 5 ai nodes in their moons 😭

i can't really increase the range too much it starts breaking and floating

[flat tusk]

how much would doubling the range break it?

on my moon sierra, which has like 60-ish ai nodes, there's a good amount of foliage but it's noticably restricted to specific areas

[wise stag]

not sure, could try, i noticed breakages around 50x because on higher altitudes the raycast would hit some not so good floating areas

5x* not 50x

[flat tusk]

try it with 2x

tundra plants are good but i think these ones should be a bit more pale maybe?

[wise stag]

yeah probably, though those are a bit green so they might've been an accidental oversight lol

[radiant raft]

hehehe

[night beacon]

actually I just thought of something

what if....... metal junk randomly placed on moons labelled as "Company" or something similar.....................

[wise stag]

still climbin

i really do need more snowy ones though

[wise stag]

what if...... indeed

[night beacon]

you could theoretically re-use the flora system for it

[wise stag]

just random debris?

idk if i have models for random debris sadly

anyway

more flowers

this is gonna become a flower mod, lol

imma see if i can just empty my list and just add as many as i can at once so i dont have to touch em again

lol

im also like boreeeed

[night beacon]

yea, any random metal crap

[autumn pagoda]

Coloooours

[wise stag]

there we go

[autumn pagoda]

Youve been cookin real hard damn

[wise stag]

u wanna guess how big the assetbundle size is?

[autumn pagoda]

5k?

[wise stag]

5k wut

[autumn pagoda]

Prolly super low cuz you are crazy like that

[wise stag]

lol

lower btw

[autumn pagoda]

Lmao

Is it for the plants only?

That i’d guess 2k?

[wise stag]

mesh, texture, and material

try guessing the uncompressed size

then the compressed size

its still building so idk the new size but i know some sizes

[ocean meteor]

5gb uncomressed?

Idk rough numbers tbf

[wise stag]

those would be seichi level meshes

smh

[autumn pagoda]

Wtf

[ocean meteor]

0.7gb

[autumn pagoda]

420mb

[autumn pagoda]

690kbs uncompressed

[wise stag]

the built bundle size is outdated, give it a sec

[ocean meteor]

Can i chang to 690mb-

[wise stag]

lol

3.8mb is the new assetbundle size

anyway i have 3 more folders of potential plants i gotta go through

i went through 17 already

lol

omg

very last of hte plants im adding...

well i do still actually have like 5 more folders but those are for harmful plants

[viscid rock]

will we ever get more snowglobes? I need them

[wise stag]

more snowglobes like stuff inside of hte snowglobes?

anyway, final count:

[ocean meteor]

I assume types of snowglobes

165 plant variations seems like overkill already lol

[wise stag]

maybe, only took 4mb so really all it was was just me setting it up for a few hours at the most

[ocean meteor]

I mean I'm sure the file size is fine, it's just a lot of plant

[wise stag]

never enough plant

find the beehive

work well for hiding too (they dont)

[flat tusk]

ah of course. grass, desert, snowy, dangerous species

[flat tusk]

maybe flora could be a seperate mod

[wise stag]

nah no need for it

its toggleable like every other thing in my mod

i think i have it toggleable anyway

[flat tusk]

every other thing still takes up file space

[wise stag]

im sorry i wont accomodate another mod just for 20mb

better luck telling mooners with multiple moons to separate their 100mb+ moons into separate mods

because those actually kill performance

[flat tusk]

wghatever

[rugged tendon]

I agree

I don’t like overbloated mods, it would be nice if everything was separate

Like if there was just a tornado / meteor shower mod I would totally add it to my pack

[wise stag]

i really odnt see where the overbloatedness is

u can get rid of everything in this mod excluding meteor shower and tornado

the only penalty is that teh assetbundle instead of being like 10mb for tornado and meteor shower combined, its 20mb

[rugged tendon]

Maybe you could do what Wesley does and have both the separated mods and the all-in-one mod

[wise stag]

and those 10mb arent even loaded into RAM, so the only detriment for them is existing

im not separating all this lol, the reason a moon mod like wesley does it is so people dont have 3GB mods killing their pc

[solid hedge]

I don't know

Right now code rebirth Weight so much lower then every other mod but implements a lot of things

I think it's really cool

[wise stag]

i've made this mod in a way that allows me to implement many things freely without needing to split it into different mods, the only literal disadvantage anyone can argue about overbloatedness is the filesize, which is currently sitting at like 20mb which is not even a 1/4 of most moon mods

dont like a feature? config is probably the most configurable you'll see from any other mod, anything is disable-able

worried about RAM? anything disabled isnt loaded into RAM

i would genuinely accomodate if the file size ever got too large

but not "too lazy so spend hours splitting it up so it's 1 button rather than 2 buttons for me"

apologies if this seems specifically targetted against a person complaining, this is just a general statement

anyway, 163 different plant types, not adding any more (except for dangerous ones)

i spent like 20 minutes lining them up and now i cant remember why i did

oh yeah the readme

[tacit badge]

not until I see a config to turn down the intensity of the tornado flinging

[wise stag]

ITS THEREEE

[tacit badge]

nuh uh!

https://tenor.com/view/yummers-homeland-the-boys-gif-6845106152273826307

[wise stag]

im so accomodating i added this random ass sfx this guy on my github wanted me to add

i didnt wanna see @fickle talon make another yeet mod

[tacit badge]

updated and booted up the game and there's only one to disable it

[tacit badge]

that's not flinging

[wise stag]

u want to be flung 2 meters?

[acoustic fulcrum]

It's there lol

[wise stag]

DAYM gale is clean as hell

[tacit badge]

well no I just think it's a little silly that I get thrown out of bounds 😭

[acoustic fulcrum]

Gale is the GOAT

[wise stag]

bro you're dying either way 😭

[tacit badge]

yeah but it's really immersion breaking when I get thrown out of bounds

you know what I mean?

[acoustic fulcrum]

Yeet me to space please😂

[tacit badge]

like idc if i'm dying anyway I think it's stupid I have to see the unintended areas of custom moons or vanilla moons just because I got thrown

[wise stag]

how many moons are like black mesa where they have a bunch of props and shit outside 💀

[tacit badge]

you had a pretty good flinging mechanic with the driftwood, which didn't throw you insanely out of bounds

[wise stag]

yea but that aint really transferable

[tacit badge]

well, I'm not talking about props, i'm talking about void areas lmao

like it's ugly when the "intended game mechanic" is throwing me outside the boundaries of the game

[wise stag]

it looks just fiiine in vanilla, i blame custom moons , but ill try to reduce the power of the final throw

[tacit badge]

yeah on vanillas it's mostly fine

[acoustic fulcrum]

What if you kill the player earlier in the throw? That way you start spectating before you fall through the map🤔

[tacit badge]

but vanilla moons shouldn't even have that much space outside of the playable area anyway

[tacit badge]

I was thinking about that yeah

[fickle talon]

LMAOO no way someone else asked for a yeet sound

[wise stag]

it's there for a reason me and zeekerss, we team up often

[night beacon]

I blame Wesley

[wise stag]

anyway you're actually asking for the one thing i havent managed to control in this mod

i dont actually want the tornado to fling you THAT hard

[radiant raft]

wth

[wise stag]

but physics is like

hard to do

[night beacon]

I said nothing officer-

[tacit badge]

ye I figured

it's not something I thought you'd do intentionally, which is why it was so weird when it happened

[wise stag]

i was as confused as u when i suddenly was thrown mach 20 out of hte map

i would've preferred a driftwood throw, but yeah

anyway new config

[tacit badge]

wahooo!

[wise stag]

50 means no throwing too

now the last thing

what should i make nature's mace do...

icy hammer slows enemies down temporarily

spiky mace deals extra damage

epic axe is epic

oh yeah

i wanted nature's mace to heal

players

almost forgor

and enemies too

[night beacon]

also I just seen this

wdym "dangerous species"

[viscid rock]

more snowglobes as in a music box variation of the boombox music, nutcracker music or even jester music

[night beacon]

are you adding flytraps that are gonna slap up the employees?

[viscid rock]

The dropship snowglobe might just be my favorite modded scrap

[wise stag]

oh true, maybe actually

[wise stag]

uhhh dont worry about it

[viscid rock]

yay flytraps!

[night beacon]

I should fear this more than the pistol prawn

[viscid rock]

oh boy I am gonna have fun configuring

[lapis flax]

you can do meteorshower@90 and it's gonna be resolved correctly

no spaces required

[wise stag]

im assuming u would parse "Meteor Shower@90"

also any chance on swapping those "@" to ":"?

[solid hedge]

Let's gooo Dangerous Plants

[acoustic fulcrum]

I would also like an answer to this @lapis flax

[lapis flax]

why would i do that

it's more logical syntax

[wise stag]

samke reason u accepted both modded and custom

just a standard

[lapis flax]

meteorshower AT 90 weight

let's set a new standard then

[wise stag]

oh yeah, meteorshower AT 90 COMMA windy AT 50

my english isnt good

what does comma mean here

[lapis flax]

comma is ,

semicolon is ;

[acoustic fulcrum]

Does Meteor Shower also work instead of meteorshower?

[wise stag]

not semicolon

[lapis flax]

all permutations work

[wise stag]

just colon :

[lapis flax]

you can even do MeteOR ShowER

I'm pretty sure

[wise stag]

gonna patch weather registry so that specific syntax of meteor shower isnt accept

[lapis flax]

not planning to change my config syntax

[wise stag]

i mean

u did it for modded and custom

[lapis flax]

because it's gonna break all existing configs

[lapis flax]

that's not syntax, that's placeholders

AND it wasn't implemented/released at that point, meaning: I could do that

[wise stag]

u didnt allow for anything modded related until yesterday?

[lapis flax]

I didn't support placeholders until latest

[wise stag]

wdym placeholders

[lapis flax]

All/Modded

[wise stag]

oh ic what u mean

[lapis flax]

it's not a planet name - it's a placeholder that gets resolved to a list of names

😇

[wise stag]

wipe that smirk off ur face

it makes no difference

[lapis flax]

🤷

[wise stag]

the only difference here is that im asking 😔

[lapis flax]

for me to change @ to : ?

[wise stag]

for you to accomodate :

[lapis flax]

oooh, so two possible ways to write that?

that's even worse

[wise stag]

[lapis flax]

hey, if you're making a standard there should be minimal ambiguity involved

[wise stag]

not me making a standard

LLL is making the standard

[lapis flax]

that's how you write that and no other way

[wise stag]

u wanna fight that, fight it with batby

no wait, it also happens to be the standard with most config available LL enemies...

[lapis flax]

lmao I'm not using LLL for resolving that, therefore I'm not bound by it

[wise stag]

then dont talk about standard???

[lapis flax]

you brought it up

[valid drum]

@wise stag Wanna let you know, apparently the metal crate can spawn disabled items from LGU

We got a Wheelbarrow

But I have it disabled

[wise stag]

[wise stag]

alright

[valid drum]

Yeah

^^

Minor issue but something for you to fix when you can

💜

[wise stag]

yea i need a better way to get items from the list, will do eventually

[lapis flax]

do you want to contribute to my secret code? 👀

[wise stag]

im good

[blissful knoll]

When was the code originally birthed the first time?

[proven minnow]

I got a small suggestion for the metal crate. Would it be possible to make it a key-only crate instead of being reliant on having a melee weapon? Because right now it feels easier to open the metal crate than the wooden one

[radiant wigeon]

Maybe also a config to make the wooden box breakable via melee

[stoic obsidian]

currently testing something else, but does anyone know if we can choose which moons get the flora?

[proven minnow]

how about using a simple weighted item list config entry? Highly configurable and won't give me unusable binoculars

[radiant wigeon]

Speaking of melee, its probably not intentional for you to be able to use your hands from LethalHands to dig up and open the crates is it?

[flat tusk]

no dead bushes for desert 😔

[flat tusk]

i suppose that makes sense

[valid drum]

@wise stag Is this perhaps an error caused by the new crate in CodeRebirth?

It was showing up a lot today

Never seen it before

[acoustic fulcrum]

@wise stag Any chance for a blacklist for the item crates? It seems like store items from the crates get bugged and lock players inventories, tho that could be a conflict somewhere in my pack. A blacklist would just be a great workaround as normal scrap seems fine

[valid drum]

I think being able to disable the metal crates would also work

[acoustic fulcrum]

Are the metal crates the only ones with store items?

[valid drum]

yes

[acoustic fulcrum]

Then a toggle for those would also work too 😄

[hazy thicket]

wouldnt it be better to get the actual problem fixed than just avoid it

[acoustic fulcrum]

Of course! Just as a temporary solution while xu figures it out. She also has to fix the crates spawning items that are disabled (0 spawn weight)

[wise stag]

LOL

[wise stag]

Yes

[wise stag]

Ye but it's fine

[wise stag]

No, u have an outdated mod

[valid drum]

Yeah DiFFoZ is gonna try to find it, the error only ever started today so I'm confused what mod might cause it

I will say I added Cruiser Additions recently I wonder if that may do it

I have doubts but

I can check

Don't see anything about it referencing stun grenades in it's code so not that

lol

Think I found it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SpookyBuddy/EasterEggFixes/ this mod references stun grenade code

Lol oh well

It's gone now

I added that recently cus I didn't want eggs to explode when dropped lmfao

[wise stag]

Lol

[valid drum]

Probably some code that got changed in V56 ig

[valid drum]

Any chance we'll get a fix for the snowglobe soon? I tested picking it up normally earlier and my characters arms were broken for the rest of the stream after I put it down XD

I'd love to know why it breaks the arms

😂

Seems to only happen in first person at least

[wise stag]

It should only break if u pick it up crouched and fixes itself if u pick it while standing up lol

[valid drum]

Lmao I picked it up while standing up, I could walk with it like normal lol

[wise stag]

Then what broke

[valid drum]

The arms so when pulling the lever I looked double jointed, when coming back from death they were broken

It's like the arm animations become opposite of how they normally should be lol

[odd briar]

I don't remember the weather registry thread name so I'll post it here

After death this was spammed in console

[valid drum]

That's a vanilla issue, use Matty Fixes

[odd briar]

That's the funny part

I do have matty fixes

[valid drum]

Do you have the readable mesh fixes enabled?

[odd briar]

Lemme check

[odd briar]

Yes

[valid drum]

Dunno

Probably some mod causing a bug

[odd briar]

[valid drum]

It's not Registry or Code Rebirth though

[odd briar]

I can send profile code

[wise stag]

skibidi

[wise stag]

i was lied to

[odd briar]

Another error

[wise stag]

was this with the uh

yellow tornado

?

oh not this error message

the one above

[odd briar]

I have them disabled

[wise stag]

this one just seems like a problem with whichever moon u were in

yea none of these errors are me

[odd briar]

I was at Peter

[wise stag]

this is also not weather registry

[odd briar]

Hmmm

Any idea what it is then

[wise stag]

lol peter has broken audioreverbtriggers, not surprised

dunno

[thorny shuttle]

does 1 flora equal 1 of the smaller clumps of them

[wise stag]

u see the abundance config?

thats the abundance for ONE flower

and considering each tag has around 40 to 50 flowers

[mild storm]

womp womp

[wise stag]

if u include all 3 tags, you'd probably have like 163*40~ flowers total

[thorny shuttle]

ohh

[odd briar]

Flora Invasion

[wise stag]

you can reduce it ofc

[mild storm]

nature reclaims all

[odd briar]

This is default?

Heccc

It is much more intense on modded moons

This is on Verdance

From Celestial Expansion

[wise stag]

custom moons include all 3 tags by default

[odd briar]

It's like a jungle

🥴🌺

Pretty cool

I hope infernis isn't overrun though

That place is a literal volcano

[wise stag]

probably is

i probably need an exclude moons tag

[odd briar]

Yeah

I'd add a few in there by default

Ice moons

Fire moons

[wise stag]

ice moons? there are snow style plants lol

[odd briar]

OH

I have not been to an icey moon in ages

My bad

[wise stag]

thats fine lol

technically i have some plants themed towards fire but i just put em in the desert

[odd briar]

Makes sense

[formal sinew]

You bullied the creature in the snowglobe when you were young that's why.

[wise stag]

sorry im unable to figure out how to soft depend , i wish an api would opt to handle its values similarly to vanilla but can't do anything about that unfortunately

i would go back to LL's implementation if i could, but I think too many people are used to it by now

[hybrid flume]

Imagine.

[wise stag]

nou

[hybrid flume]

[summer bane]

Unfortunate, but it's okay. Well time to mess around with WeatherRegistry config

[wise stag]

ill try to ask mrov to have his stuff follow vanilla as atleast a config

because no API should modify vanilla behaviour

if not i might just go back to LL

[flat tusk]

i think min/max flora per moon type should be a thing

[open laurel]

Can the tornados be spawned with LQ yet?

[wise stag]

too much effort plus would probably cause performance issues

[wise stag]

nada, spending time on that later inthe evening today

[flat tusk]

how would less flora on a desert moon cause performance issues

[wise stag]

the more times i go through the list for extra information like min and max the longer it takes for ya to load into the level

[open laurel]

also first tests using imperium show that weapons do 1 damage base, 2 damage crit, but if purchasing the Protein Powder upgrade from Lategame Upgrades, the crit function doesn't seem to happen anymore, Imperium labels all enemy hits with a code rebirth weapon as doing 3 damage (maxed out protein powder at level 2)

gonna test with imperium off and hope maybe somehow imperium is breaking something and it actually works fine in a proper game

[wise stag]

@hybrid flume might know

[hybrid flume]

Nom nom

Know what?

[wise stag]

protein powder stops my prefix and posts to hitshovel

?

[hybrid flume]

It's a transpiler so it's changing vanilla code.

[wise stag]

yeah i thought so, just dunno why it would stop applying according to imperium

[open laurel]

nope, the crits only work if the weapon is doing a base damage of 1 😭

no 6-damage weapons for me

add a config option to let us pick base damage per-weapon, I bet that'll work! If Scoopy's Variety Mod fireaxe has a base damage of 3 and accepts protein powder damage additions to kick it up to 5, odds are a config option setting the base damage for a weapon will then allow protein powder to stack on top of that for these weapons as well

[wise stag]

idk

the two damage spiky mace is working fine for me on critical hits

havent tested with lgu

but it's not like i do much here to prevent it

[fickle hill]

Don't see much reason to use the hammers. Epic Axe is just way lighter for the same thing

Think the hammers should do 2 dmg always or something

[wise stag]

they'll get more next update

as in more functionality

[elder python]

[Error :CodeRebirth] [ILHookAllowParentingOnEnemy_PlayerControllerB_DiscardHeldObject] Could not match IL!

I think this softlocks the client

[wise stag]

it shouldnt

wdym soft locks

what were u doing

[elder python]

my friend tried to pick up and drop rifle from piggys variety

he softlocked

and he tried to kill me, a body replica of mine and me standing still appeared

he has a very bad graphics card idk if thats the reason

[wise stag]

uhh that wouldnt be me, that error is very irrelevant and isnt technically an error, i should change it to just be a log

all i know is that the rifles break my override animator, but that shouldnt soft lock?

[wise stag]

also update posted

will probably take a break for a week on coderebirth to focus on other mod stuff

also big readme update

[hot light]

no breaks! no food! only CR!
you're doin good, fren

[mild storm]

get back to work!

take your time

[fathom fjord]

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthPlayerManager.HandleStatusEffectChanged (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player, CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthStatusEffects effect, System.Boolean isActive) (at ./src/Util/CodeRebirthPlayerManager.cs:106)
CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthPlayerManager.UpdateStatusEffect (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player, CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthStatusEffects effect, System.Boolean isActive) (at ./src/Util/CodeRebirthPlayerManager.cs:87)
CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthPlayerManager.ChangeActiveStatus (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player, CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthStatusEffects effect, System.Boolean isActive) (at ./src/Util/CodeRebirthPlayerManager.cs:126)
CodeRebirth.WeatherStuff.Tornados.ApplyFireStatusEffect (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player, System.Single range) (at ./src/WeatherStuff/Tornados.cs:320)
CodeRebirth.WeatherStuff.Tornados.HandleStatusEffects (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player) (at ./src/WeatherStuff/Tornados.cs:293)
CodeRebirth.WeatherStuff.Tornados.HandleTornadoActions (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player) (at ./src/WeatherStuff/Tornados.cs:271)
CodeRebirth.WeatherStuff.Tornados.FixedUpdate () (at ./src/WeatherStuff/Tornados.cs:220)

[wise stag]

Damn

I knew I missed something

Did I upload an old version or smthn?

Line 106 in player manager doesn't exist

[wise stag]

Uhh what were ya doing for this to prop up? I'm assuming near a tornado?

[fathom fjord]

erm probably

[wise stag]

https://github.com/XuuXiao/CodeRebirth/blob/main/Plugin/src/Util/CodeRebirthPlayerManager.cs yeah I have no idea

The lines don't exist

[fathom fjord]

well then you did upload wrong version

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tepid solar]

i cannot even find the method from your stacktrace in the assembly ❓

CodeRebirth.Util.PlayerManager.CodeRebirthPlayerManager.HandleStatusEffectChanged does not exist in the 4.0.1 assembly

[fathom fjord]

ill look into that later

[tepid solar]

i used dnspy to check btw

[fathom fjord]

probably gale downloaded mod wrongly

[tepid solar]

that seems like a really messed up download

[fathom fjord]

ok it's not gale, it's because I was using v0.4.0

v0.4.1 was published an hour ago

[wise stag]

Phew

[ocean meteor]

Biodiversity if real

[wise stag]

LMAO

[tacit badge]

why is this video 282mb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241786100201160784/1268478814955110431/Lethal_Company_2024.08.01_-_01.41.31.01.mp4?ex=66ad3b34&is=66abe9b4&hm=1e3fe09c3aac6a966329e8a7e20035ed523acbed4ca4cf7e83e79bcec3cf9a7c&

???

[odd briar]

I recorded in 1440p by accident

[tacit badge]

I wanna do vain shroud reskins so bad :3

[tacit badge]

i can see that

[ocean meteor]

Would work in your theme yeah

[ocean meteor]

My data

[tacit badge]

shouldn't be too hard to do, honestly

[wise stag]

Time to do it first

Jk, would be pretty hard tbh

Getting a suitable model that is*

[autumn heart]

Hmmm

[ocean meteor]

Xu accidentally added an air plant category I see 🤔

[acoustic fulcrum]

I assume Weather Registry's settings for the weathers take precedence over your own config, correct?

[valid drum]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TenuousFuriousCormorantSuperVinlin-AWnhhshSsis2JCM3 @wise stag Lmfao

Absolute perfection please keep this XD

[hot light]

right into a woodchipper

[open laurel]

tornados spawn through LQ now but have no particle effects so they are totally invisible, and they also don't yeet the player out of them 😭

[wise stag]

Ah yeah the way they're setup be like that

[wise stag]

Dunno

[wise stag]

Uhhh

[acoustic fulcrum]

You added it back to your own config and didn't even check?💀

@lapis flax what's your best guess? Which config for the weather takes precedence? Code Rebirth or Weather Registry?

[wise stag]

I'd assume mine but idk

[acoustic fulcrum]

If that's true, any chance for a toggle to just make registery control it? I don't want another LLL situation where every weather mod has its own config

It's so much nicer having everything in one place, makes it easier to do the weather to weather weights too

[wise stag]

I 100% disagree lol, I'll see what I can do but you're just asking for trouble wanting all thr configs in one mod

[acoustic fulcrum]

Why wouldn't registry control it? It's the api with all the settings to begin with

Like if I'm going to configure weather, it makes sense to do it in registry. Especially since other weathers play a factor

[wise stag]

If you're going to configure something I add, it makes much more sense to configure it on my end lmao

[acoustic fulcrum]

You're not the only weather mod tho, flipping back and forth between multiple configs is just needlessly tedious

[open laurel]

is it an easy fix or obnoxious due to the implementation you went with? could I still have my sweet sweet perma-storm moon?

[acoustic fulcrum]

Every interior just using LLL to configure now is a godsend. API's having the configuration for the thing they control makes sense

[wise stag]

That sounds less tedious and more so laziness on another level tbh

If WR included every single config I have on meteorshower then fine

But you're already flipping back and forth for my other xonfigs lmao

Configs*

[acoustic fulcrum]

It has all the weight settings and such, those things are the things that don't need to be in both places. Things like weather meteorites are cubes makes sense in your own config

Have you even looked at how Weather Registry's config works?

[autumn pagoda]

Hmm

[wise stag]

Yeah obv I've looked at WR's config

[acoustic fulcrum]

I'm mainly wanting everything to do with how it's selected to be in registry. Since balancing weathers is a thing

[wise stag]

U gonna configure half the configs then go to another mod to configure the other half to begin with lmao

[autumn pagoda]

Does it matter where the config is that much?

[wise stag]

No but

People who love mods like central config

[acoustic fulcrum]

How does that have anything to do with this🙄

[wise stag]

Actually no comment

[autumn pagoda]

I mean sure none > meteor shower should be done in weather registry but most configurable stuff is in coderebirth and it makes sense to me

[wise stag]

Eh you know exactly what I mean

[acoustic fulcrum]

I really don't

[wise stag]

I dont deal with weathertoweather weights

Preferably I'd scratch all configs on the weight stuff for the most part

[autumn pagoda]

Yes i know and its not your stuff to begin with

[wise stag]

Feels like I'm not allowed to properly design the weather in accordance with the difficult I want

[acoustic fulcrum]

Weather to weather weights is exactly why I want registry to take precedence

[wise stag]

Then use weather registry for that

Again, you're already hopping between two configs

[acoustic fulcrum]

But will your config override that is my concern

[wise stag]

You're not hopping any less/any more

My config doesn't include weather to weather weightd

If it was an option, I wouldn't even allow that in WR

[acoustic fulcrum]

Doesn't it include a blacklist and normal weight?

[wise stag]

I like making configs, but I also like having control over the difficult etc of my shit I add

[wise stag]

Yeah?

Just don't use the blacklist

Damn

[autumn pagoda]

Why?

[acoustic fulcrum]

But which config does it take the blacklist from?😅

[wise stag]

Like I said, too much configurability, if I want something yo be changeable I'd add a config for it

To*

[wise stag]

I'd have to ask mrov

[autumn pagoda]

Yes but weather to weather is not your thing and i do expect you to do that, also thats one of the main features of weather registry

[wise stag]

Imagine creating something, then using an api to add it, then having no control over how it spawns etc because a very few end users want that control

[wise stag]

First of all, I don't add a WtW config in my configs, maybe I will later it that's your point lmao, but second of all, what I said above

[autumn pagoda]

I love weathers but i like weather to weather thing cuz that just adds so much more immersion to the game

[wise stag]

Sure, u can add whatever u want, I'm not gonna stop you, but preferably I want things inhouse

[autumn pagoda]

No i agree with you that how meteor shower weather functions on its own should be configured by your stuff but WtW should be a thing to be config’d in WR

[wise stag]

Because yknow, I made it?

WtW involves my shit too lmao

What if my vision just didn't align with end users doing whatever they want with it?

[acoustic fulcrum]

Isn't that what modding is in general. Like I'm sure zeekers doesn't love everything every person has done with his game

[autumn pagoda]

🤷‍♂️ i think WtW should be configd in WR using your and others weathers and the core elements of the weathers should be configd by the creator

[wise stag]

Then im either a hypocrite or just make no mods? Lmao

[autumn pagoda]

Im sure he likes toiletleech

[acoustic fulcrum]

Like you've said yourself you don't even play the game. Why do you care how someone configures their own game session?

[autumn pagoda]

I mean idfc if it ends up in your config in the end, it just makes more sense SINCE WtW is a WR feature

using your mod but still it is its feature

[wise stag]

Cuz it's still my shit and I have a vision for how I wanna see it being played out

S1ckboy what the hell have you been yapping about for 10 minutes my guy 😭

There exists more in this argument than just WtW

[autumn pagoda]

I just pointed that out cuz it seemed to me that you didnt like that lol

[wise stag]

If the api I'm using prevented control over how my stuff is being used, then I'd just not use said api

[autumn pagoda]

Other than that idfc where its configd

[wise stag]

Yes but as an example dumbass

[autumn pagoda]

And i argued your example stoopid

[wise stag]

You're still stoopid

WtW is good on paper and I have nothing against it, but the parts where its about MY weather still need to be dealt with on my end

Again, I prefer doing everything related to my shit in-house

[open laurel]

I mean I cannot seem to get weather registry to obey the weights I set at all, the WtW thing seems entirely broken for me, and Code Rebirth weathers were the only reason I started using WR since I had no problems with the game's vanilla weather selection system anyway. If it could be done in-house, that'd make me be able to include tornados and meteor shower in my modpack without having to wrestle with weather registry anymore, of which I still have to keep doing because my weather selection results are so out of wack that I'm positive it's ignoring the weights I set and I have no idea why and it's driving me up the wall.

[wise stag]

[hazy thicket]

then make a mod to do what your asking for 😄

[open laurel]

btw Xu I didn't even notice the new weather weights in the config until now, is weather registry still a dependency to get code rebirth weathers working? I see it listed as one but now I'm curious.

[wise stag]

yes

[open laurel]

alrighty

[elder python]

prevents anything really

sotflocks the player compeltelety

[wise stag]

im not sure, any errors in console?

[elder python]

aside from the log I sent

no, it also happened with my friend

not me, the host

[lapis flax]

CodeRebirth's config sets up the Registry's default value

which can be modified in Registry - that configs take precedence

[lapis flax]

i am planning to allow that, but that's gonna come after my break

[valid drum]

Btw @wise stag I wanted to let you know, whenever you get around to merging TheGiantSpecimens into CodeRebirth, I discovered it was TheGiantSpecimens that somehow caused ModelReplacementAPI to throw NRE spam in my logs

Unintentional discovery

XD

[lapis flax]

have you checked your logs?

[wise stag]

uh no ty?

i'd rather handle all this inhouse 💀

[lapis flax]

you do you

[wise stag]

yeah i dont wanna do a million references to weather registry just to check configs/debug weather registry lmao

[lapis flax]

i mean - yes and no?

you would define your configs on your end

and Registry would just bind them in the respective category

so you have the best of both worlds

[wise stag]

[lapis flax]

and that's your choice

[wise stag]

not sure what problem yall have with me doing configs inhouse

[autumn pagoda]

[hazy thicket]

Like LLL an option to disable auto generated options would be neato

(Though food for thought I don’t think I’ve had someone wanna use that yet)

[lapis flax]

that's the thing - i can understand that one weather has different options from another (because it does different things)

but things you can configure in Registry are common for all weathers, so why would you want to reinvent the wheel?

i don't care if you do it or not, i just want to understand

[wise stag]

reinvent the wheel just to have configuration inhouse?

what if i just dont want a certain type of configuration

why am i, as a developer, being restricted because some end users wanna mess with my content however they like

they can learn to mod and patch my mod if they'd like

[lapis flax]

you were arguing with me for some time that i shouldn't allow blacklisting levels on my end cause you do that already

[wise stag]

no?

i was arguing with you because ur dumb ass wanted gordion to be permanently blacklisted

no matter what

and that that would be unchangeable

[lapis flax]

yeah

[analog crystal]

Personally, I'd dislike if API I use adds configuration stuff for my stuff without an option to disable it. However, if that configuration came from another mod, I'd be completely fine.

[wise stag]

i do love when an api gives me 0 freedom yeah

[analog crystal]

I guess it's because it's pretty much just bloat?

[wise stag]

something with this community and giving every single option to end users

[hazy thicket]

oh yeah its rough

[lapis flax]

okay, is weight picking such a deal-breaker to you?

[analog crystal]

I don't necessarily think this is an issue though

[wise stag]

the issue is i cant opt out of this as a developer

[wise stag]

im not sure exactly why you're nitpicking specific things when my argument is about configs as a whole

if i wanted people to edit stuff, i'd add it in my own configs, which i wouldnt mind doing, but some stuff i might just not want them to modify

[analog crystal]

Yep, and the solution is to make it impossible to even opt-in in the first place, by not making it a feature of the API. But instead having another mod do this

[hazy thicket]

im a little out of the weather business but isn't weather registry and weather tweaks already two seperate things (i assumed an api/lib then a config-esque mod)

[wise stag]

tbh i have no idea what the difference rn is, havent checked in a while

[lapis flax]

i'm providing the things that - for the whole time i've been developing my mods - users were able and free to modify

which is:

• blacklisting weathers from moons
• scrap/amount multipliers
• weather weights

[hazy thicket]

in which mod

[lapis flax]

in registry

[hazy thicket]

im aware im someone who has the same kinda thing in my api so like i cant talk but that is ideally weird

[autumn pagoda]

wouldnt that be fine in weathertweaks? it would be more logical to me 🤔

[lapis flax]

weight system? or all of those

[wise stag]

weather tweaks being allwoed to edit inherent values in an api is fine for me

the api itself shouldnt be allowed to give users that ability

[autumn pagoda]

well registry should register weathers, tweaks should tweak them 🤷‍♂️

[mild storm]

I too am in the debate

[wise stag]

lol

[mild storm]

now i sleep

[wise stag]

like weather registry is really good for me, i get to register my weather, use some events you have added, do some basic stuff like multipliers etc, but i dont want something im depending on to conflict with my vision

[lapis flax]

what's your vision in terms of weather stuff and what's the conflict

[hazy thicket]

api poking stuff

idealy the thing ontop of the api poke stuff

[wise stag]

yeah

i'd poke the api, as the developer registering

users cant DIRECTLY poke the api, but through mods like weather tweaks thats fine

[autumn pagoda]

^so going by this logic config for Xu's weather should be in WT that way Xu would have her freedom of doing things her way and you could also have you modifications (?)

[wise stag]

?

did you explain that wrong s1ckboy?

cuz u just said i had to put my configs inside of WT

[autumn pagoda]

wait i worded that super badly

im sleep deprived

[wise stag]

[autumn pagoda]

so these could be in WT and WR would only do the rest that Xu mentioned

[lapis flax]

sorry i'm bringing you into this, but - by that logic - why does LLL allow for that to be changed directly inside LLL itself?

[autumn pagoda]

isnt that the right way to give end users what they might want and also let Xu do Xu things?

[hazy thicket]

because people wouldn't shut up and i cared too much about peoples opinions back then

[wise stag]

super unrelated point but i think those configs in LLL are broken

[lapis flax]

that's a fair point

alright, so - if i'm getting it right - not everything should be customizable if you want to opt out of it, correct?

[hazy thicket]

if your poking in the api you gotta ask incase they wanna say no

[wise stag]

most of everything should not be customisable by the end user if the developer specifically declines those customisation

whether its for reasons like they want it inhouse or they just dont want a user to mess with those options

[lapis flax]

so - in terms of registry - filters and multipliers?

[wise stag]

i honestly dont think anything should be there (except vanilla stuff maybe i have no real opinion on that though probably fits more to do that as well in WT)

multipliers could also just change the content entirely, so i'm hesitant to even have a config for it to begin with

[lapis flax]

so everything i'm doing is not even unnecessary, but unwelcomed?

[wise stag]

as a forced option yes

if i can opt in? i wouldnt mind having it wherever though probably stuff should be separated into API and API modifier like WR and WT

like the stuff for meteo multiplier that inspired the multipliers, it never registered weathers so it never had problems like this, it was just a mod you'd have alongside

[autumn pagoda]

[lapis flax]

so combining all existing weather-related mods&options into one package was - in your opinion - a bad move?

[wise stag]

yeah it's super bad for an api

as in, the ability for the user to do these changes

[analog crystal]

yeah, I think an API should do the minimal amount of stuff to work

[wise stag]

its a lil weird, cuz u can argue adding more stuff to teh api to give the developer wider control without having them need to code in specific stuff, u can also argue api is just there for registration and stuff, but the important part here is that the user should not be able to control what i control without consent

[hazy thicket]

also worth keeping in mind the userbase we have here config wise is stupid and standards were at a minimum when you started cooking

it makes sense that its like how it is

[onyx canyon]

hey i am in this message and i dont approve

[lapis flax]

hmmm

[wise stag]

lol

[lapis flax]

well, it is what it is

[hazy thicket]

if only you could configure my opinion 😛

[lapis flax]

everything started with user-customization in mind, and i don't feel like taking that away now is a good move

but i understand the POV

[wise stag]

just allow me to opt in or opt out

so if theres any complaints

its towards me

[lapis flax]

i'll cook something for ya

[wise stag]

alright ty

[wise stag]

i have no idea what killed him btw

[wise stag]

forgot to respond, ill figure something out

[open laurel]

while you're at that, may as well mention, one of the tornados seems to spawn right beside the ship and never move. You know, at that weird spot with the invisible rectangle that's some sort of grid starting point or default 0, 0, 0, or something

[wise stag]

like natural spawn?

[open laurel]

do you know how to resolve this so the tornados can spawn in random locations and wander randomly like the regular one?

yeah in my tests, the invisible tornados

not yours, yours work fine

[wise stag]

oh the invisible ones should be fixed when i do my fix as well

[open laurel]

but I mean, the stupid 'default to sitting at the spot beside the ship and not moving' thing

any clue what might cause that? I've seen it in other enemies too, such as the kidnapper fox on other custom moons

or two spore lizards on bozoros just rubbing into it and not moving unless disturbed by a player approaching

do you know what that dumb little phantom rectangle with collision is? it also acts as a physical hazard cruisers can crash into

[wise stag]

lol

its vector3.zero

when the search algorithm is broken

it directs itself there

[open laurel]

is there a mod that at least makes that stupid thing have no collisions?

[wise stag]

it shouldnt have collission

[open laurel]

it does and has for a long time for me

is it possible a specific mod is causing it to have collision?

[wise stag]

maybe

try lgu

[pliant junco]

This mod is insane, I can't believe you managed to get ALL THIS working in LC, and all in one mod

However, the hoverboard is the first thing to ever make me feel motionsick

[wise stag]

LMAO

[autumn pagoda]

Fun fact hoverboard was out before the company cruiser ^^

[pliant junco]

Yeah I love this mod

The meteors are definitely my fav feature so far

And I know I could disable the hoverboard, but I won't because I enjoy suffering 🙂

[open laurel]

this should reaaaaaaally be false by default tho

but yeah meteors are so fucking cool, I still like tornado more tho

[high zenith]

Yeah as much as i love the mod the hoverboard is really jank XD

[wise stag]

the hoverboard works ™️

[high zenith]

Idk why i imagined it working like a skateboard

[wise stag]

probably because i posted 10 skateboard videos and said "pov using hoverboard" or something similar

[pliant junco]

I think the main issue is that it levels itself with every change in terrain beneath it instead of smoothing it and staying slightly more stable and higher

From a first person perspective, that is not very fun lol

The other jank I love

It looks hilarious from the outside

[wise stag]

it does indeed apply force to balance itself every frame lol, which changes based on its current height

[pliant junco]

Is that something that might be changed eventually?

[wise stag]

dunno what i'd change it to

it's currently physics absed

[pliant junco]

With all the sick custom behavior you've already implemented, I'm sure adding some smoothing couldn't be that hard

[wise stag]

im just not sure what smoothing would entail here is all

[pliant junco]

Maybe make it apply to the elevation below it only 1/4th as much? Then fill in the gaps somehow

[wise stag]

anyway

@high zenith i posted like all of these videos

[pliant junco]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

[wise stag]

back when hoverboard was wip

and was like "dio playtesting hoverboard"

which was why u prolly thought it was skating

[wise stag]

@autumn heart @open laurel update uploaded for u two

i havent tested ur thing shark

so if it no work then it no work

lol

[autumn heart]

Thank youuu, I'm guessing you mean the "uhhhhhhhhhhhhh" lmao

[wise stag]

maybe probably

[autumn heart]

Also what about the tornado spawning in as an enemy? I didn't know that was a thing

[solid hedge]

Nice new Changelog

[wise stag]

its spawnweight is set to 0 on everywhere

but shark wanted me to add it as a spawnable enemy

incase someone wanted it to do that

[autumn heart]

That's very interesting

So it's a new weight setting you can modify yourself if you want more chaod

[shadow kernel]

Gladly

[wise stag]

oh you'd still need to do it via something like LQ, but the option is there

[autumn heart]

Ah ok

Sucks that I don't use Lethal Quantities then

[open laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3q8GBbuZg

[wise stag]

this better not be from me but you

lol

how well does it work?

[open laurel]

well

they suck me in

they yeet me

however

so far, from testing of 2 landings

they spawned 3 at once

even though my settings shouldn't have done that

and they also spawned in the exact same place

these later 2 spawned way over there at least

[wise stag]

i did put the max count to 10

[open laurel]

I allowed a max of 6, and all 6 spawned before noon

[wise stag]

it's up to u to reduce that to 1

lol

[open laurel]

which is weird because...

the outside enemy spawn chance curve should not allow anywhere near 6 until well through half the way

past it, in fact

[wise stag]

?

[tacit badge]

omggg cesspool hiii

[wise stag]

oh wait

i was looking at adult wanderer

[open laurel]

hopefully I can just tune that a bit though, I know there's a hidden range to the spawn chanve curve amount