#Artifice Blizzard

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compact pagoda
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does this mod work with #1325899802503811172 ?

neat dawn
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i do not know

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my gut intuition is probably, but have to find out and see

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it should work with rebalanced moons, at least

analog needle
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Immediate blizzard after setting its weight to 6%, during an eclipse no less

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Cool rng, no pun intended

vale linden
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still begging and pleading for fog to be able to be denser than 2.4

analog needle
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What's Blueish variant comparable to? Vanilla Titan? Chameleon Titan?

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neat dawn
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"bluish" is the same hue/saturation as brightblue

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but with the value of "neutral"

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if im being honest there's not a huge difference, because the dwarf star lighting makes everything look kind of blue anyway

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brightblue is a huge difference though

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it uses the unused fog color from the scene (which actually originates from rend's scene) and it makes everything look way brighter than rend/dine

analog needle
neat dawn
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it's actually likely that Neutral is closer to the original design

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when i made the original version of the mod, it used BrightBlue by default because i thought it was a leftover from an earlier version of the artifice scene

analog needle
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But BrightBlue is what Zeekerss left over, right?

neat dawn
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but then I discovered that same fog color is unused in the scene for both rend and dine

analog needle
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Huh

neat dawn
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meaning it has been unused since at least zeekerss finished rend (before even v9)

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because we know that dine's scene and artifice's scene both started out as duplicates of rend's scene

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before zeekerss gave them unique terrain

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the tldr is that I used BrightBlue by mistake in earlier versions because I thought it was a leftover from artifice

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but it's actually almost certain that it was never used on artifice even before v50 released publicly

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i changed the default because of that

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one problem is that we have no idea how dense the fog on artifice used to be

analog needle
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I'll use neutral then

neat dawn
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you will have to just guess what number feels good

analog needle
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I use 25.0 since that's what Artifice uses by default

neat dawn
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because zeekerss just cut down on the snowstorm fog when he changed artifice's looks

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the original number isn't available anywhere

analog needle
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Rend's whopping 3.7 I feel like is too low for a moon that lacks any sort of guiding light

neat dawn
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assuming he didn't change it until he redesigned Artifice, it would've used Rend's value of 3.7 by default, but Dine uses 8.0 and it's the only other snowstorm map he worked on in v50

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Dine also used 3.7 in v49

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etc.

analog needle
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Speaking of, how come your Artifice blizzard isn't plunged in constant night like the other ice moons, or is that just because I have the fog set too thin?

neat dawn
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i guess it kinda depends on what you're seeing vs. what you're expecting

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but this mod should make artifice look visually almost identical to rend/dine

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with default settings

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this is artifice with rend's fog values

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jetpacking kind of completely cuts through the fog

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overall pretty similar to rend

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analog needle
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Neat

analog needle
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Old birds on blizzard Artifice have so much aura for no reason

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neat dawn
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yes i think old birds are like 1000x cooler in blizzards

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which can only happen on dine in vanilla

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and even then it barely happens because most of the time all the spawn power is just instantly occupied by giants

analog needle
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Aren't old birds on Titan too?

neat dawn
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oh wait yeah you're right

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i forgor

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they are kind of lackluster on titan because of how small and empty the map is though

analog needle
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True

neat dawn
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also he reduced their spawn rate on titan before v50 released and they are extremely uncommon there too

analog needle
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Blizzard Artifice gives them weird forced perspective when standing next to say, like a warehouse

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They look HUGE

analog needle
neat dawn
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he added them to dine and titan with the same spawn chance

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well, same spawn weight

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but in one of the betas he decided to reduce it for titan

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it's actually not that significant of a difference now

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the main thing that makes them more common on dine now is the fact that dogs got reduced in v60

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anyways

analog needle
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@neat dawn The sky from this mod still applies despite the blizzard variant not being present?

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Atlas incompatibility maybe?

wet kelp
analog needle
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It is?

compact pagoda
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because if so yes, this is a vanilla thing

analog needle
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? The person I was next to told me the sun was red

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Wtf

compact pagoda
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it happens sometimes depending on the moon's current weather from what i've seen

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what weather was it?

analog needle
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I believe Clear

compact pagoda
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did it ever change to anything else?

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like through weather tweaks or anything else

analog needle
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I told him to come outside, I asked him the sun color, and the player I asked told me it was red, while the same sun I was staring at was blue

analog needle
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So, no

compact pagoda
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I'm kinda stumped then

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from MY experience the sun color on artifice changes depending on the weather

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probably because zeekers forgot to change the sun texture for stormy and eclipsed, just zeek shenanigans

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but i've never seen it blue on clear

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I get why you might've thought it was this, then

neat dawn
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lol that's funny

neat dawn
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but yeah

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whenever there's overcast weather

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the sun reverts back to being the dwarf star

compact pagoda
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yee

neat dawn
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("overcast" meaning flooded, eclipsed, or stormy)

compact pagoda
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iirc during eclipse it uses embrion's sun I think?

neat dawn
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actually nvm i forgot eclipse uses its own animation clip for the sun

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it's fine during eclipse

compact pagoda
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ye

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oops lagging

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there

neat dawn
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anyways that is really bizarre

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artifice blizzard replaces all the sun clips with the snowy ones

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because i assumed vanilla used all the normal clips

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(and then a player just "wasn't supposed to question" why the sun turned into a dwarf star during a blizzard)

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but honestly this is even stranger

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because even without mods the sun is constantly changing based on the weather

compact pagoda
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irl it's a mistake but I like to believe Artifice's system has two suns and that's it

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hehe

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smth like this

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ignore embrion and arcadia being there

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in reality you'd be able to see them both at all times, but don't think about it too much!!

neat dawn
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this is kind of a completely unrelated tangent but i think it'd be cool if there was a weather effect that was just the "overcast" animation without any negative effects

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compact pagoda
neat dawn
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it completely changes the feel of a moon

neat dawn
compact pagoda
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it's just the stormy volume with no extra effects

neat dawn
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i think dopadream told me about that actually

compact pagoda
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(if you turn off weather multipliers)

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tho maybe they're off by default now, i forget

compact pagoda