Colorful Enemy Variety (& Extra Enemy Variety)

[heady gulch]

Manticoils, Locusts, and Bees are all getting their proper 5 colors

Even Masked Hornets will be getting color differences in the Butler skins

Honestly not even sure why when I added skins for those entities I only added 3 for each

[vale swift]

you told me you didnt feel like adding too many bee, locusts, and hornet skins cuz you didnt think theyd be noticeable

and that you just got lazy with the manticoil

[heady gulch]

Fair, though I've long changed my mind about that ever since we started doing colors for the masked hornet in Extra's butler skins

Like sure they're small and they don't pop out like every other entity but I think it is somewhat noticable. And also thery're extremely easy to make colors for, so 🤷

I think every entity should get the minimum every other entity has followed

[heady gulch]

Would definitely like some input on this set of butlers, I'm not totally 100% on it

I've discussed with Disco about considering reworking the removed butler with the blueish skin into a more unique frostbite skin for Extra some point in the future

[fair raptor]

It is just… so peak

[heady gulch]

I looked back on the Snare Fleas and I sorta agree with the Gray and Red one in particular, I like the subtle hint of brown/red the original gray had and just the overall color of the original red.

I've since reverted the new gray to the original and readded the original red

[marsh fjord]

Agree

https://tenor.com/view/pallas-cat-manul-sun-daniang-brush-brushed-gif-1776594574506011763

[abstract forge]

Much better tbh, except maybe the pale blue skinned one he looks like he's really sick there, I think for the Icy Butler maybe a pale white would look better

[late umbra]

Foxes are one of the easier outdoor monsters to kill, and barely harder than inside monsters.

[heady gulch]

Sometimes I'm reminded how ugly Thumper's normal map is

[fair raptor]

They used to be smooth

but then v47 gave them that wrinkly look

[abstract forge]

Pretty sure the normal map if I'm correct on thinking this was broken before cus they heavily lacked detail

And then v47 fixed them

[fair raptor]

Never knew that, I wouldn’t be surprised about it either

[abstract forge]

They were smoother but the textures were also very low resolution too

Like the normal map or specular map was missing

[fair raptor]

I believe bunker spiders were also given a normal as well then, but I’m not sure

[abstract forge]

Yeah pretty sure bunker spiders also faced the same issue

[fair raptor]

So it wasn’t just me, lol

I knew they looked slightly more wrinkly

[heady gulch]

Also manticoil try not to be the most annoying thing to screenshot challenge

Jittering and shaking like crazy

[fair raptor]

It’s weird that Imperium doesn’t have a disable AI setting like Garry’s Mod

It’d make certain things, like this, a whole lot easier

[heady gulch]

Well, I always use the old reliable of outer adamance to get enemies still but with Manticoils specifically they'll just get stuck in the air and it's 10 times worse

[fair raptor]

Pain…

[fair raptor]

I remember manticoils having proper death animations way back when

I have no idea what the fuck caused them to become this broken when dead

[spiral rain]

I like that they're s bit less vibrant overall

that rightmost one is peeerfect

[spiral rain]

yeahs......thanks bestie

[spiral rain]

love those thumper changes too

[spiral rain]

loving the subtlety in these

[heady gulch]

Sometimes, subtlety is more. I think that's ultimately what my gripe was with the original Coilheads and Thumpers, saturated colors on them just don't fit them all that well (ignoring the purple thumper cuz that one's just funny)

Like honestly, I just do not like this one

Or this one

Extends to Butler too, OG Green and Tan's suits were very bright compared to all the other butlers

[spiral rain]

lithium coil-head

[spiral rain]

mhm

[spiral rain]

Honestly I didn't hate this one but the red and blue ones I thought were too much

[storm bolt]

those are very nice

I really like the red

[safe marsh]

Birds really be going like:

https://tenor.com/view/hotline-miami-rat-spin-gif-26488967

[young valley]

sure is giant enemy spider behavior

[limpid rune]

WHAT THE HEEEE

[versed ferry]

the giant enemy spider

[heady gulch]

mhm seems about right

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[thin marlin]

Does that spider skin have special sfx? I want to use it standalone because the white n red is really fitting on snow levels

[harsh moat]

when it bites you, it does jermas freddy fazbear jumpscare impression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAixwe3Z80

[thin marlin]

Oh that’s not bad

[harsh moat]

hold up his impression is THIS fire ? 🔥

[heady gulch]

I think originally it was going to be the jerma's giant enemy song instead but if the spider bit you multiple times it'd just start overlapping the song lol

So jerma's horrific rendition of freddy fazbear was decided instead

[harsh moat]

lol

that wouldve been awful

[fair raptor]

It's too banana yellow Imo, not something you'd really find in a desert

Gorgonzola's thumpers does it better

[spiral rain]

I don't see it as a desert ver I just like the color lol

[fair raptor]

Ohok fair

Aside from the desert thing, it still just feels weirdly unnatural to me

[heady gulch]

Z

[fair raptor]

Z

[young valley]

white B

[heady gulch]

So I'm testing with tulips a lot and was thinking instead of just a random assortment of colors maybe there could be "sets" of colors like what the vanilla tulip snakes have? Maybe 3?

Wanna stress these in particular are still WIP, I'm messing with colors a lot for tulips

[fair raptor]

The vibrant color and diversity here is much nicer, however some of them are pretty boring as they're just washed out variants of their vanilla skins. They, mainly their frills, should Idk include more unique colors, like purple for the cyan jungle one

[heady gulch]

Hm, yeah I agree there

Particularly the middle and middle left the most (1st photo)

[fair raptor]

The green, orange, and pink tulips fucking rock though

Love those three

[ripe otter]

TULIPS

[heady gulch]

How about now?

(Ignore their colored teeth they ate too much food dye (I'll fix it later))

[harsh moat]

no way swamp villager reference.....

minecraft....

[fair raptor]

Yea, awesome

[young valley]

is there a server specific for tulip snakes? Where are all theese stickers coming from

[late umbra]

TulipNova manifests them into existence

[ripe otter]

Yes.

[ripe otter]

(theres like 5 different private servers im in and there almost all full of tulip snake stickers and emojis)

[versed ferry]

ooh, i like it alot. will the variants be single skins?

[heady gulch]

Unfortunately no. EnemySkinKit doesn't have support for something like that

Wish I could

[versed ferry]

so sad

[heady gulch]

Trying to think if I should do 1 more set but I think i'm happy enough with what I made

Not sure of what other color combinations would fit the Tulips

[versed ferry]

four sets, one per season

[eager cypress]

white works well for icebound from generic cause it's the only snow/ice moon to spawn Tulip snakes

[spiral rain]

love these!!!

[spiral rain]

so so pretty :]

[spiral rain]

I'd desat the purple a bit, or use a slightly more pastel tone for it to match the others (same w the green maybe)

[young valley]

isn't that the purple dragon one? I think it's supposed to be bright

[solar cobalt]

well, if sliders are gonna get reset, im gonna need to reevaluate how i get these skins sorted

no more 1 moon at a time

probably set some personal categories, sort some moons into em, then go off of that.

[young valley]

I usually do tags

[solar cobalt]

tags are 100% up to the dev, thus making em less than reliable

[late umbra]

As someone who spends more time in configs than the game itself I don’t see why you’re reevaluating.

[solar cobalt]

u know how many icons ive made for LLL moons? that's how many moons i'd need to configure 1 by 1. now multiply that by the amount of vanilla enemies + kidnapper fox in the game

not to mention that the moon selection list and skin weight section dont share the same order

[versed ferry]

the only issue i've ever had with tags is one moon using an incorrect tag which i reported to the developer

[solar cobalt]

i can be quite particular, too; sometimes going off of moon lore

[late umbra]

As someone who spends more time in configs than the game itself that’s no longer a dream and just a hell.

[stiff sorrel]

and the fact theres three different tags to categorize snow moons

snow, tundra, ice

just stick with one already 😭

[versed ferry]

then use tags for most things and when you're particular about use moon-specific...

[versed ferry]

most moons use either canyon, valley or tundra for desert (assurance, offense), forest (vow, march, adamance) and snowy (rend, dine, titan) respectively

[spiral rain]

no that one's an extra enemy variety skin, this one's a colorful enemy variety skin

[heady gulch]

ColorfulEnemyVariety (v2.0.0) | The Colorswept Update

Changes

• Jester: Remade 4 of the skins. Replaced Hasty Red w/ Joyous Purple
• Old Bird: Remade all 5 skins. Added Hazard Yellow & Elite Red
• Forest Giant: Remade 4 of the skins. Replaced Evening Orange w/ Washed Blue
• Snare Flea: Remade 3 of the skins. Added Beetle Yellow
• Butler Remade 3 of the skins. Replaced Foster Brown w/ Formal Red. Removed Koi Orange. Butler skins now have different colored Masked Hornets
• Thumper: Remade 4 of the skins. Replaced Hazy Yellow w/ Beached Tan. Added Sickly Green
• Coilhead: Remade 4 of the skins. Replaced Cloudy Blue w/ Rusted Brown
• Bunker Spider: Remade 3 of the skins
• Manticoil: Remade all 3 skins. Added Morning Yellow & Deserted Purple
• Circuit Bees: Remade both skins. Added Metallic Green, Adaptive White, Miscolored Pink & Miscolored Yellow
• Tulip Snake: Remade 4 of the skins. Added Playful Pink & Jungle Green. Removed Playful Cyan
• Bracken: Slightly adjusted colors on all skins. Replaced Fiery Red w/ Tipping Purple
• Eyeless Dog: Remade Arctic White. Added Diversion Green
• Hoarder Bug: Added Roach Brown
• Maneater: Added Hazed Blue & Caved Maroon
• Barber: Added Cheery Cyan & Merry Magenta

Unchanged

• Kidnapper Fox
• Hygrodere
• Baboon Hawk
• Spore Lizard
• Earth Leviathan
• Ghost Girl
• Nutcracker

Miscellaneous

• Updated README screenshots
• Tons of skin name changes that I've probably forgotten by now
• Remade a majority of skin icons to be much more color accurate
• Updated Butler icon to now include the Masked Hornet accompanying them

[spiral rain]

i'll kill all moon developers with pointy sticks and rocks

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-rock-throwing-gif-3095471689337470556

[spiral rain]

yes even you blaze

[young valley]

holyyyy

time to configure everything

[spiral rain]

aaand it's all over the screen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208223251696853092/1262126193730261002/itsNOTpeak-ezgif.com-crop.gif

[heady gulch]

Sorry config bros

[spiral rain]

BI WAIT NOT THAT ONE

NO THAT ONT

[heady gulch]

LMAO

[spiral rain]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-peak-its-peak-peak-it's-phenomenal-phenomenal-gif-1607096610738621263

[young valley]

mhm sure

you HATE variety

you want your games all bland

and repetetive

[heady gulch]

Just for you monty

a variety mod but they're all gray

and you can't uninstall it

[thin marlin]

Looking forward to looking at these skins

[heady gulch]

Also Imgur Album updated as always

[solar cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cop-yes-screaming-yelling-police-gif-15724125216572599622

[versed ferry]

the mod link isnt pinned here...

[heady gulch]

Trying to pin but I guess Jeb is broken

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DistinctBlaze/ColorfulEnemyVariety/

[abstract forge]

I was glad you updated the icons for the updated ForestGiant skins lol, cus I wanted to be sure I reenabled the right ones XD

[eager cypress]

bruh it's saying 2.0.0 doesn't exist-

[stiff sorrel]

it does now

restart your mod launcher

[eager cypress]

I legit reset thunderstore and even my computer

not working

[stiff sorrel]

wait a little bit more ig

it showed up for me on r2modman

[violet siren]

Jolly Enemy Variety when?

[young valley]

I like my enemies jolly bruh

[fair raptor]

WHAT

[spiral rain]

my enemy skin variety announcement is all over!!! what did you think i meant

[fair raptor]

I LOVE THE NEW JESTER SKINS, THEY'RE SO CUTE

Everything abt this update is peak

Also @wanton breach

sbvto8f9z0471

[shut sable]

all of the new skins look pretty great

i would like to see the return of foster brown for the butlers because i think it's a great neutral, fitting variant

brown suits are an instant classic and it fits with the rest of the new intensity-reduced palette

[tired citrus]

i didn't expect the new update to be so 🔥 🔥 🔥

didn't like many of the variants before because they didn't seem right, but now they seem much more fitting

👨‍🍳

[late umbra]

Update approved, most of the skins fit the game a lot better.

I love the old birds, green, copper and yellow fit so well on forest moons. Like they’ve been dormant for decades.

[rancid flame]

Any plans for adding skins for modded enemies? Or do you want to avoid that?

[harsh moat]

the skins from this mod use an API called enemyskinregistry, its not up to blaze/disco what monsters get skin compatibility
but beyond that, the maker of the API cant make modded monsters compatible

[harsh moat]

@heady gulch the sickly green thumper skin is using the great white skin icon

[fair raptor]

It isn't

Sickly Green is just a very very dull green

Look at the mod's Imgur album, you'll see

[rancid flame]

I am aware of the API. But this mod might as well be the only one that uses it. I don't expect Distinct or custom entity makers to account for each other, but still wanted to ask.

I guess that's a no then, if the API doesn't support custom entities to begin with.

[heady gulch]

It technically can support modded enemies if enemy mod developers register them to the SkinRegistry

There’s a section talking about it in EnemySkinRegistry’s Readme

If enemy mod devs were to register their enemies for the registry I would be interested in possibly making skins but it would depend, since I probably wouldn’t be able to use enemyskinkit to make skins easily. It’d probably also be its own mod and not tied to Colorful/Extra

[harsh moat]

oh my bad then

[heady gulch]

No worries

[rancid flame]

The issue I was thinking about is people constantly requesting their favourites, or asking why you did this one and not that one. At least vanilla is vanilla, and you covered all of it already.

[harsh moat]

no, they havent done masked skins

but that makes sense

plus generalimprovements has a setting to make masked spawn with suits players are wearing

[fair raptor]

Tbf, wtf are you gonna reskin a theater mask

You have such a limited framework to work with

[harsh moat]

performing arts maks have a lot of variety

but i digress

i dont think masked skins have to exist

[fair raptor]

Too much variety, to the point that a reskin of the mask would basically be an Oni 2.0

You couldn't really call it a masked then

[late umbra]

Tragedy masks on the infected players face instead of comedy, although there’s a mod for that already and a large chunk of players use a mod to disguise masked more, like removing the mask and making it copy players suits.

[fair raptor]

I mean like an actual mask reskin like the rest of the entity skins here

Not something that already exists in-game

[late umbra]

Have a tragedy mask on the employees face doesn’t exist in game

[harsh moat]

they mean nothing thats in the game in general

[late umbra]

Adding actual new masks wouldn’t make much sense without a new item, and that’d stop the mod being client sided

[harsh moat]

no it wouldnt lol

[late umbra]

Unless they add a chance for the mask to replace normal comedy and tragedy like that ikea shark

[harsh moat]

theres already custom assets used for skins that use ESR as a dependency

literally extra enemy variety does this

[late umbra]

Adding a new item is not client sided

[harsh moat]

it doesnt have to be a new item???

[late umbra]

^

Would be weird to put on a comedy mask and have a different mask on your face

[harsh moat]

it could just be if its a player corrupted it cant be a skin

[late umbra]

Makes sense

Could totally do what that one shark mod does for replacing large axles with a shark plushie 50% of the time

But it’s a lot of work compare to normal monsters and I’m not even sure masked are registered for ESK

[heady gulch]

They are not and even then me and the others agreed they just don’t need variety. Personally, the only variety I’d want out of them is what suits they wear when naturally spawning

[late umbra]

Most people playing modded make masks copy players anyway

[eager cypress]

Wait what mod does that?

[harsh moat]

generalimprovements setting

[pure cedar]

or Mirage

[spiral rain]

it would be up to the modders to add compatability

[spiral rain]

me when there's a miner butler skin thus making it a miner and not a butler anymore

[harsh moat]

the chef:

[spiral rain]

I'm saying! get it together samantha!!!!! for shame

anyway if I stop being lazy I might register biodiversity enemies for skins

someone gotta periodically yell at me to do it tho cuz I'll forget

[harsh moat]

i kinda want skins for the mysterious harbinger but i wont force anything to come of that

[rancid flame]

I already got the answer.

[tacit lance]

made this pic back when I was testing Wexop's RandomColors

[hot imp]

Oh that's crazy

[eager cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

pog

[heady gulch]

Small v2.0.1 update for Colorful

• Readded Foster Brown w/ minor tweaks and new hornets
• Added Captain White ()

Captain White was originally meant for v2.0 but I kinda felt "ehhh" on it and didn't add it, but at this point I figured why not

[marsh fjord]

Captain white looks good

[tacit lance]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-in-love-pikachu-in-love-gif-24311055

[harsh moat]

this is one of the best nutcracker skins lol

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-punch-get-out-pallas-cat-cat-punch-gif-140744091226716024

[tired citrus]

ok, hear me out

could we have it

[harsh moat]

legitimately

what are you cooking

[tired citrus]

earth leviathan cool skin

[harsh moat]

oh

i forgot earth leviathans exist LOL

[tired citrus]

You feel vibrations from deep below...

[harsh moat]

the destroyer vs the 0.3 second pop out time earth leviathan

[tired citrus]

if i'm suggesting the destroyer from terraria, then it would be fair to suggest this one too

lol? imagine a slime with a crown

[versed ferry]

the destroyer wins

[harsh moat]

there is a nutcracker in terraria....

its actually fucking over....

[harsh moat]

@heady gulch you fucked up the pepsi diet skin for the barber

i have no idea how no one has reported this

[heady gulch]

In what way?

[harsh moat]

hold on

LOL THE ONE FRAME HARBINGER SPAWN

NICE

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[harsh moat]

lmfao

[vale swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563351597317488661/1274466083813982318/catexplodion.gif

[fair raptor]

Only now did I realize that cat was in a kennel

[heady gulch]

Pushed an update to re-enable the fading and also fix some tulip skins overriding eachother when a tulip spawns with said skin

[fair raptor]

W

[storm bolt]

if you make christmas skins I think a santa butler skin could be good

[harsh moat]

funny thing is bozoros did this but bozoros' version is bright like ghost girl, and it also did a knife reskin but its janky with save file closing

it also has no broom for some reason

[peak marten]

Left that line there, whoops

Originally wanted to do an animation of him doing something else instead of sweeping but the Butler animation is a bit broken in my Unity project lol

Also I had to switch to just pure EnemySkinRegistry to reskin some stuff for the Butler (reskin for the knife he uses, and attaching Santa hat in a way that actually follows his head movements)

[fair raptor]

Recommendation (Up to u): Blahaj skin for thumpers in Extra Enemy Variety

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-family-guy-peter-perhaps-peter-perhaps-gif-24813812

[fair raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-ikea-ikea-shark-ikea-shonk-shark-gif-23977116

[vale swift]

stupid bird

[fair raptor]

Pokey pokey

[harsh moat]

@heady gulch do you know about that rare bug where a hoarding bug spawns squished

[fair raptor]

Isn’t that a Random Enemies Size issue

[heady gulch]

Yeah, I know about it. I have no clue what causes it

[harsh moat]

ok hear me out

make it a skin

[harsh moat]

this is a vanilla game screenshot

hoarding bugs sometimes spawn with a squished model

[fair raptor]

Wtf? That’s a vanilla bug?

[harsh moat]

yes

[fair raptor]

Bro

Zeekerss…

[harsh moat]

it is extremely rare, ive only seen it once ever in 1800 hours

[fair raptor]

Are you sure it isn’t some hidden feature?

[harsh moat]

positive

[fair raptor]

It just doesn’t make sense for a hoarding bug to glitch like this

[harsh moat]

evidentally its just caused by model jank

[fair raptor]

And how do you know this?

[harsh moat]

when a hoarding bug spawns out of a vent, you can see weird stuff happen to it for a few frames as its spawning in the map

the model also has jank when its attacking someone, as youre probably aware

so its just something to do with its bones

but afaik no one knows why it happens

[stiff sorrel]

who squished jeremiah 💔

[fair raptor]

Without actual evidence, preferably from Buttery/Batby, Idk if I can believe you lol

[harsh moat]

ok well idk what to tell you, sorry i guess

theres no evidence in the code its an intentional rare event, and if it was coded, there would probably be a lot more screenshots of it, but theres barely any out there

[fair raptor]

I know at least that tulip snakes are heavily fucked up (For some reason, their models glitching seem to be very common)

But a hoarding bug being entirely resized is super weird, since the bones of a hoarding bug exiting a vent are close together, not entirely resized

[late umbra]

Wth?

That exists??

[fair raptor]

Outside of vanilla apparently

[harsh moat]

yup

[late umbra]

Dang

It’s the first hoarding bug which tried to lift a spike trap I see

That’s some looney toons type stuff

[fair raptor]

Or stomped by an old bird

[late umbra]

Hoarding bug discovered you can’t pick up old birds

[fair raptor]

Tfw I can’t pick up the loot jackpot

[harsh moat]

oh my god i found the information

[fair raptor]

So? What did you find?

[harsh moat]

this is what i pinged her with https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189973207608995991/1239865254415040533/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_242.mp4?ex=675df240&is=675ca0c0&hm=881acdc172697a9e05665d6a002a00598beb0df1bb9c2059f9765f6a7a0012ae&

[stiff sorrel]

ive seen this happen a lot on collateral

a lot more with jeremy

[fair raptor]

Yeah

[stiff sorrel]

most of the time he is squished

[fair raptor]

Happens a lot with him

[harsh moat]

jeremy is purposefully squished i think

unless im wrong

[stiff sorrel]

ive seen him normal sometimes

[harsh moat]

ah

[stiff sorrel]

but i like to imagine jeremy is naturally squished lol

[harsh moat]

ive only seen him squished

[fair raptor]

Idfk why Zeekerss chose to resize the model instead of just having their bones closer together

[shut sable]

by shrinking the skeleton he is moving the bones further together

they are one and the same

lol

[young valley]

it is easier to just make a stretch animation instead of scaling the whole thing

[lapis goblet]

that's debatable

oh god necrobump oops

lol

[lapis goblet]

bout time i added these

[limpid rune]

What colors will merry magenta be?

[lapis goblet]

same as colorful enemy variety

[final owl]

i just got eaten by an invsible forest giant

i am so confused

[harsh moat]

wait wait wait

hold on

#1220501885753098250 message

[final owl]

oooooh...spoopy

[heady gulch]

Could it be a mod conflict? I'm trying to recreate it to check logs but I had no luck. If anyone encounters it again and has logs to show that would be appreciated

[harsh moat]

its client sided

[heady gulch]

ah

[young valley]

accidentaly just typed "bed" for whatever reason

anyways I had a cool idea of content warning inspired skins

you know the textures that look like pencil scratches

[versed ferry]

old world enemy variety

[young valley]

I would love to make enemy skins myself but sadly my unity takes ages to open and I can't be bothered to wait that long everytime

[heady gulch]

Hey everyone! I just pushed an update for ExtraEnemyVariety (v1.9.0) that adds a lovely fruit cake flea for the holidays for all of you to enjoy!

...But what's this? They've come with 7 other gifts? How jolly!

Sorry this update took a while, it would've come sooner but we've been busy most of the month. Wishing everyone a happy holidays.

[shut sable]

fruitcake flea is pretty class

[storm bolt]

quite nice

[harsh moat]

||i fucking love the nutcracker and barber ones||

[vale swift]

i loved making those

[harsh moat]

you cooked so hard

||will check out the candy cane leviathan when im home also||

[final owl]

The mod update isnt showing up for me?

the christmas ones arent in the skin config

[young valley]

||Its just a shame with the earth leviathan skins that you see them so rarily||

||JESUS THE NUTCRACKER SKIN IS CURSED||

[heady gulch]

I updated my personal modpack and see everything just fine

[final owl]

do i gotta just reload the config

that'll mean i have to redo the chances but yeah

[heady gulch]

Maybe store your config as a profile in the in-game config, reset your config, and then load the profile back

You can find the profile you create in Bepinex>Config>AntlerShed.EnemySkinRegistry

So you don't have to redo everything

[final owl]

aight

lmao

wait

I left the game and now theres an update available

wtf

why didnt it have that update available like 5 minutes ago

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiwami-goro-majima-gif-7479306398193761624

Mod Manager moment

[spiral rain]

I LOVE IT

[solar cobalt]

peak

[vivid cape]

Wait this is supposed to be rare? Me and my buddies have seen this like, three times in my 580 hours.

[solar cobalt]

sounds rare to me

[vivid cape]

I thought squished and fat bugs were just normal variation he put in there for fun.

Like a variable that is randomly chosen on spawn.

[solar cobalt]

long skinny variant when?

[vivid cape]

Tall bugs sound more cursed than squished ones

[final owl]

what are yall's configs lookin like?

I like having all mine set to 1-2% so then 80 percent are vanilla

then its like

a shiny pokemon

[harsh moat]

lol thats funny

yes its a rare model jank bug

[vivid cape]

Man I should unpack my pc to get the photo of that time I saw the Bracken model bug out. Dude broke his arm while standing up. Looked hilarious and stayed that way the whole round.

Let me see if I can find it.

[heady gulch]

I generally have the vanilla skins spawn a majority of the time with colorful skins being uncommon and extra skins being rare outside of specific moons

[vivid cape]

Who hurt him.

[quick spruce]

I set everything to have the same percentage of spawning because I live for the chaotic energy

[safe marsh]

Looks like some employee of the company got tired of getting their neck snapped so they broke the brackens arm.

[vivid cape]

This is what happens to survivors of shovel squads

[versed ferry]

does cosmocos blighted glow in the dark?

[harsh moat]

it does not

[versed ferry]

i think it should...

THE AO ONI!?

[harsh moat]

then its an advantageous skin lol

[versed ferry]

but it'd look cool

[late umbra]

Technically you’d only see it glowing once you’ve actually seen the bracken. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

There are some cases where you wouldn’t since the sides of your screen don’t scare off the bracken. Not sure how much that really counts though if you can see its glowing eyes.

[fair raptor]

Agree

[fair raptor]

How?

[harsh moat]

easier to see

[fair raptor]

Not really

Brackens have glowing white eyes to begin with, it'd be as much as that

[heady gulch]

If I were to add glowing to Cosmocos Blighted it would be as subtle as possible

I'm personally not too against it since the Aloeflage skin already does something similar with the glowing stems on the face

[young valley]

Yeah but its 2 glowing dots vs a whole glowing bracken

[fair raptor]

I believe they were referring to their veins

[limpid rune]

I thinks this aswell

[tired citrus]

Could we have support for masked enemies?

The "skins" would be the suits and could have values assigned to them like other enemies

[late umbra]

#1238032120631263243 message

Masked aren’t we support in enemy skin kits so it isn’t even possible

Besides I’m 90% sure it isn’t something DistinctBlaze wanted to do

[harsh moat]

if you really want masked skins, you can use generalimprovements' setting for them to use player suits

[late umbra]

There are plenty of other settings like copying peoples cosmetics, removing the mask on their face, whether they show player names, if they put their arms up near players, if they spin on the monitor and a chance to make it look like they have items on the monitor

[harsh moat]

i dont like making masked perfectly 1:1 copy players (aside from their weird shoulder movements which no mod tries to improve afaik)

it feels more rewarding to the player to learn and memorize how to differentiate masked from normal players

[tired citrus]

As I said on the Chameleon thread when suggested the idea, most mods that does that just copy the skin/cosmetic from other players. And they are mostly required by all clients or hurts performance. I'm trying to suggest masked enemies to have random suits, not different masks

[tired citrus]

Not interested in them, just the masked having more variety aside from orange suit or copying other players

[late umbra]

I’m not sure if there is a mod to make them choose a random suit

[tired citrus]

There isn't

Which is why I'm suggesting this ideia

[late umbra]

Hope there is in future. Always preferred that idea for vanilla+ modpacks but never bothered to check

But either way it just isn’t possible for DistinctBlaze to add that using Enemy Skin Kit

It’d require a lot of work to use anything else. There’s a reason Enemy Skin Kit exists in the first place.

And I don’t think choosing a random suit fits this mod very well

But it’s not like I can speak for DistinctBlaze

It might be a concept they’re interested in.

[harsh moat]

the problem isnt suits, its more so the mask itself

the person corrupted by the mask is not the monster, its the mask itself

and the masks dont have color variants in vanilla

so only seeing them on corrupted players would be weird

[tired citrus]

Idk how the mod works exactly, but I guess it's a bit out of scope 🥲

But if this idea was worked on, masked enemies would have endless supply of skins

[tired citrus]

The mask is a scrap (with paranormal properties). The monster "spawns" when it has control over a host (body). The body is just a player, theorically it should be able to apply suits to the body

I guess

[heady gulch]

I think ultimately it would better if it were its own mod where naturally spawned masked can spawn with a randomly registered suit. That sort of stuff is out of scope for this mod (and probably EnemySkinRegistry as a whole)

[tired citrus]

Well it was a worth try, guess I'll post that idea later on mod-ideas 😔

[limpid rune]

We need these lol

[stiff sorrel]

the calamity heads going crazy for DoG

[limpid rune]

Deep sea bunny skin for maneater?

The proportions fit is why

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-roblox-pressure-pressure-pressure-deep-sea-bunny-deep-sea-bunny-gif-17899584442021429579

[fair raptor]

the body is round

[limpid rune]

And the fangs

[fair raptor]

those aren't fangs

just weird fleshy bits of the mouth

[limpid rune]

Okay

I do still think it could do as a maneater boyo skin

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-makesweet-maneater-lethal-company-maneater-my-beloved-son-gif-2253352317482526113

[fair raptor]

agree

[limpid rune]

May have to do a toy soldier with the ears (maneater is bald sea bunnies have big ears)

With the extra armature attatchment thiny

Also speaking of toy soldier skin

When i get him (using controlcompany) he flies

When i controlling him

[harsh moat]

forget the deep sea bunnies

imaginary friend skin for ghost girl

(i totally did not just now steal this from someone )

[late umbra]

Candlebearer coil head 🔥

[tranquil hamlet]

hey, how many moons have the variants set?

im into immersion and id be up to config the variants for every single moon ive got on, but id like to know if some of the work is alread done lol

[harsh moat]

theres a default list that applies to every moon without its own config

theres only set ups for those specifically

[tranquil hamlet]

hm

okay time to do it for every moon

[tranquil hamlet]

anywhere where i can check moon tags?

would make the feat easier if i can just have a tag for all foresty moons and similar

[severe echo]

thats the valley tag

it confused me too initially i found a graph somewhere

like rocky is embrion

idk if its only with lethal level loader but these are the tags https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/main/LethalLevelLoader/VanillaContentTags/SelectableLevels.csv

i used these to make biome variants with the skin kit and this mod

[tranquil hamlet]

ty

i did it all by myself by then, took a while but i figured it out

want my skin library config?

[severe echo]

im fine i like mine

feel free to share if youd like though

i used the extra enemy variety mod skins as rare shinies for mine

[abstract forge]

@heady gulch I'm starting to think the Barber skins should probably be seperated into their own mod, since Clay Surgeon Overhaul exists now and a lot of people use that that way people using it alongside Colorful and Extra Enemy Variety don't have to go disable all the Barber skins in Enemy Skin Kit XD

BarberEnemyVariety ig it would be called

lol

[heady gulch]

I'm not sure, I don't think it's much to ask to just go in and disable all the skins? (I know barber has a lot of skins but even then)

IIRC Clay Surgeon completely overrides the skins anyways except for the sound on the scissor man skin so you only really have to disable the one skin and Clay Surgeon will work fine without disabling everything else

I could maybe just put a notice in the Readme regarding the skins and Clay Surgeon compatibility, but splitting the Barbers out of both mods into their own mod feels odd 🤷‍♂️

[harsh moat]

well, you did say you wanted to make independant skin mods for each monster to massively reduce how much data people have to put on their computers
i know, i know, that would flood the thunderstore uploads and be harder to maintain

but it is a good idea to do that for at least colorful, not doing it for extra i get

[heady gulch]

That was back when the skin mods were bloated in size and there weren't as many skins. Now with so many skins for so many enemies that would just be way too many mods and way too much maintaining

That'd be like... 24 mods

Not counting if I were to do it for both mods

[harsh moat]

do it for distinctenemyvariety also

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creation-tyler-the-creator-child-kid-son-gif-8121086759220539515

look inside snarefleadistinctenemyvariety mod
one snare flea skin

[ripe otter]

😔

[limpid rune]

This exists!

[lapis goblet]

this isnt really necessary

clay surgeon overhaul overrides the skins so

disabling them isnt necessary

[heady gulch]

Technically the scissor man skin will still override the snip so that one is an exception lol

[lapis goblet]

ah

[shut sable]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/designing-1-72312874

two possibilities for bracken alts

[heady gulch]

🤔 ?

Shroud Gray (left) already had very close colors except leaves so I just use that and tweaked it. Trying to push how much I can differentiate the contrast between them but it's kinda hard without making the white one stick out in the dark

[shut sable]

yeah that maakes sense

[harsh moat]

if the left is what shroud gray was already

its more accurate like that

also if you make the white bracken skin

"Misremembered White" good name?

[fair raptor]

I like this

Though something similar is probably more fitting for the intruders than this, if there will ever be a skin for them

[fair raptor]

moldy kidnapper fox 🤍

[autumn lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/mold-mario-moldy-moldy-mario-fancam-gif-11066490902107629195

[harsh moat]

@heady gulch ive been meant to mention this, but im unsure how much youre willing to go with it, especially since most monsters dont actually have items

bozoros' christmas update introduced a skin for butlers, them as santa, and the knife is replaced with a candy cane
initially it was a bit jank, since it turned back into a knife if you left the moon, closed the save file, and reopened it
but the team working on it managed to make them be separate items entirely

needless to say, it is possible to make monsters with items also have skins for the items

[heady gulch]

The thing is that we use EnemySkinKit for our mods and therefore we can't really do it unless we stopped using it and added the skins manually which would be a huge undertaking

[harsh moat]

bozoros also uses it

they recently stopped having them be separate models

[heady gulch]

No, they only use the Registry, not skinkit

[harsh moat]

oh ok

[heady gulch]

SkinKit has it's limitations since it's a codeless approach to adding skins. If you do the skins by code and manually add them to the Registry you have a lot more freedom with what you can do with them, like how Antler's nymph skin uniquely carries players on death with their morecompany cosmetics and everything

Coding for Lethal Company has been something I've not tackled yet nor really have the motivation to learn atm

[harsh moat]

yeah thats understandable

i was just curious if youd be interested in doing what bozoros did

but i guess it isnt that simple

like i said anyways, not much unique things you could do probably

[heady gulch]

Oh I'd absolutely be up for it if we could do it, even if it'd only really be for the Nutcracker and Butler realistically

Disco has told me it was unfortunate we couldn't do skins for the Nutcracker's shotgun on both the Halloween and Christmas skins

[harsh moat]

well you could also make recolored hives for circuit bees

i think at least

[heady gulch]

With coding most likely, yeah

[vale swift]

yeah i wanted to do a candycane shotgun for the christmas nutcraker

[harsh moat]

maybe im stupid but was this an unused skin?
i went back up to get a video i recorded for someone and noticed this

[heady gulch]

That was a WIP of the Mantiridge

[harsh moat]

ah

[lapis goblet]

i hope skin registry doesn't die

[livid garden]

did something happen recently?

[lapis goblet]

the lead dev is totally done with LC

and left this server as well

[livid garden]

oh antlers left?

damn

[lapis goblet]

im hoping people care enough to pick up where he left off

[ripe otter]

[fair raptor]

Did something happen, or are they just moving onto other interests?

[heady gulch]

If I had to guess it seemed like they just moved on. They had been showing less and less interest in Lethal Company for quite a while now in their thread

Antler even talked about finding a maintainer a few months back iirc

It'd be a shame if SkinKit and SkinRegistry are forgotten and left to the dust. They're really good tools for custom enemy skins as a whole

[stiff sorrel]

praying someone picks it back up..

[late umbra]

The bright side is it won’t break for a while because of the fact Zeekerss isn’t working on LC at the moment, but it sucks seeing such a great mod go. What I’ve seen from the code of mods it has made it much easier to make enemy skins.

[limpid rune]

Wait this mod was abandoned?

[severe echo]

no just the thing it relies on

[limpid rune]

Ohhh ok

Well

[severe echo]

it still works

[limpid rune]

I dont do coding so explain why if im wrong but i would assume even if deprecated skinkit wont break for a while since, well, its skins, i think the only way it could break is a change to enemy spawning

Also the model replacement skins i had a thread for i think are really cools and somebody should make them (acutally not bias since some were others suggestions)

[severe echo]

i dont think enemy spawning would break it

[limpid rune]

What would then, i dont see if not this how skins could break, maybe if the models are changed

[severe echo]

i mean new enemies maybe

i dont think itll break for awhile anyway because zeekers is also on break

[limpid rune]

Yea

Speaking of a new enemy

Ima make a suggestion rq

[harsh moat]

new enemies will not break it

masked are not registered in skinkit, so its not just because monsters arent in the list

[solar cobalt]

hmm, methinks new wes moons need new enemy skins when you guys are back in that mode

[abstract forge]

I think the plan right now is for them to migrate to EnemySkinRegistry first, due to the abandonment of EnemySkinKit and EnemySkinKit having more issues

Not certain though

[solar cobalt]

https://i.gyazo.com/286dbe8c6f3df26998725be921990366.png 🙂

[heady gulch]

We have no plans of migrating to EnemySkinRegistry at the moment, it'd probably be a massive undertaking given how many skins we'd need to register

[abstract forge]

True

[heady gulch]

Me and friends are still doing our own playthrough ||(1/3 Apparatuses)|| but once we've seen everything we'd definitely be interested into maybe looking in what we can do :)

[solar cobalt]

good good
definitely worth the journey

just finished my 2nd go through of it. now im just going as long as i can

[abstract forge]

I hope someone might eventually fork and fix EnemySkinKit tbh and finish where yinigma left off

[heady gulch]

Just curious, what issue are you talking about regarding EnemySkinKit?

[abstract forge]

The Harmony error that throws sometimes and the lack of getting the planned optimization update

[heady gulch]

Hm, what sort of optimization update?

[abstract forge]

It had to do with the way it was replacing audio being kind of not ideal

[limpid rune]

Whats the difference between skinkit and skinregistry

[heady gulch]

SkinKit is just a tool to make skins in the unity editor, SkinRegistry is the main mod that handles most of what you see

[heady gulch]

wip 👉 👈 (spoilers)

[abstract forge]

Ooh a puffer skin for ||Utril||

[wind berry]

I absolutely love those

[storm bolt]

Oooo

nice

[harsh moat]

||distinctjourneyvariety||

[tranquil hamlet]

are any skins pre-configured for journeys?

i dont wanna look thru the configs im yet to play the whole thing and id spoil myself 🥺

[marsh fjord]

They’re tag based last I checked so they should be good straight out of the box

[tranquil hamlet]

not really iirc

unless this was a very recent addition

but i remember having to configure the skins for the tags myself

by default (almost) every skin is on except vanilla

if someone has a config that does that tho 🥺

[heady gulch]

All moon specific skins that aren’t pre-configured will be next update, I’ve been too lazy on that for a long while

And we’re considering also doing the separate mod containing only the moon specific skins for those who want just those

[lunar bane]

please 🙏

[harsh moat]

ive wasted over 20 hours of my life on the ESK config so i understand the pain

[late umbra]

Don’t want to sound too pestering but how much does the skins affect RAM? I’ve been making a new modpack and one person in my group who recently joined only plays with 8GB of RAM

It’s actually probably something to ask in EnemySkinKit's thread but Antler left the server.

[harsh moat]

its not the API's fault, its just dependant how many skins you actually have

you can disable skins taking resources by clicking their icon in the config to make them unable to load at all

[late umbra]

Thank you, do you know how much RAM skins use in general or is it something I should just mess around and find out with?

[harsh moat]

i dont know specifics other than that

[late umbra]

I’ll give it a try, thank you

So for enabled skins they’re always loaded into the RAM?

[final owl]

Anyone else having the bug where like

enemies of specific types spawn way more than others?

Like i have every tulip snake set to 1% but for some reason they almost always appear as a specific skin

Same thing with the old birds

They are almost always the santa skin

[tranquil hamlet]

i love you

[harsh moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261361675710496912/1332218169573507091/hellobro.gif

[heady gulch]

What tulip skin

It's probably the one bug i'm thinking of where if certain enemies have their skins replace the texture rather than the material all enemy spawns will be that texture regardless of skin chosen

[final owl]

At first it was like

The pink blue and orange one

Now all i see are the red shroom ones

[heady gulch]

Okay then yeah I need to fix that

[solar cobalt]

https://www.twitch.tv/pepsimaaaaaan/clip/SmallLittleRadicchioDxAbomb-00HFPdgxA2ZWgVjw?tt_content=clip&tt_medium=mobile_web_share the power of ControlCompany and Enemy Skins

[heady gulch]

oh my god 😭 😭

[solar cobalt]

when the world needed them most, they sent down birds of old to fire nukes at us

so finished Journeys, have ya?

[heady gulch]

Last week, yeah

[solar cobalt]

excellence, i can get to listing

[solar cobalt]

||Gold Surgeon - Barber - Gold (Empra theme)||
||Lecaro Leaf Man - Bracken - Orange version of Cosmocos Blighted (Lecaro theme)||
||Island Security - Butler - Police theming (Alcatras theme)||
||Blood Splattered - Coil-Head - Name says it all (Demetrica theme)||
||Hyve Hoarder - Hoarder Bug - Bee color scheme and pattern (Hyve theme (previously submitted, but Hyve was Asteroid-14 back then))||
||Assimilating - Numerous - Red eyes and cuts where applicable (Hyx theme)||
||Crystalizing - Numerous - Patches of crystalization (Cubatres theme)||
||Home Grown - Spore Lizard - Darker green, bright red tail bobble (Utril theme)||

[heady gulch]

2 of these have already been made 🤫

[solar cobalt]

i wont ask

[heady gulch]

(one of them up higher in chat but it's a WIP photo)

oop-

[solar cobalt]

good shit

[heady gulch]

But ye, great ideas as always 🤗 We got a couple skins set (some for older moons too)

[solar cobalt]

cool cool. tyt

[vale swift]

Oh how I've missed the pepsi suggestions

[solar cobalt]

well, i wont have anything else to go off of again. plus, these guys have a huge enough list if they wanna continue

[vale swift]

yeah we have a whole list of suggestions in our server

probably should take a look at em again

[harsh moat]

add granny

[solar cobalt]

Granny - Butler - Granny
🙂

Ghost Girl*

[harsh moat]

ghost girl would be slendrina

got me fucked up

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/granny-gif-21652610

GrannyEnemyVariety

[storm bolt]

I think the Dotted Surprise's theme should be higher pitched than normal (somewhat like an opposite of the Impending Doom)

[harsh moat]

dotted surprise is just meant to be a knitted jester, i dont really think it needs audio changes

[abstract forge]

@heady gulch Would you be cool with me adding the suits from XtraSuits to Lunxara's Addons? Been meaning to ask about that since they were essentially commissions and wasn't sure how you would feel about it

[heady gulch]

I gotta make sure it's okay with @vale swift before anything since they made the suits, and they're asleep rn. But given we made XtraSuits specifically at your request I'm sure he'll likely be chill with it (given you credit him of course)

Still, better I let him know when he wakes up in the morning

[abstract forge]

Ye I would add him to the Credits

[heady gulch]

Disco said it’s chill, feel free to add them to your mod 👍

[dusk yacht]

@heady gulch are you going to add some skins that change the model of the enemy not only the texture?

[heady gulch]

No

[harsh moat]

the toy robot and crazed chef:

and well attired

[heady gulch]

Oh I thought you meant like complete model changes

[harsh moat]

they probably mean that

but those count id say

[dusk yacht]

what i mean is like changing the brackens leaves for example

[livid garden]

That's just a texture no?

[heady gulch]

the leaves? no

[dusk yacht]

also how many total skins are there

[harsh moat]

missed opportunity to make seeker orange have green leaves to represent the biological consumable known as the orange based off the color orange

[heady gulch]

Counting all the skin mods?

~214

[dusk yacht]

all the ones you made

dayum

[heady gulch]

a majority of it is Colorful

[harsh moat]

distinctenemyvariety update coming in 2028

[dusk yacht]

what does extra add

[heady gulch]

Extra is the more unique/detailed skins compared to Colorful which is just recolors

[dusk yacht]

alr

[heady gulch]

still sitting on the Detritus skins

it'll come out

4 year

[dusk yacht]

does earth leviathan have skins?

[harsh moat]

the only monster that doesnt have skins is the masked

[dusk yacht]

alr

[harsh moat]

thats more so cause the API used to create these mods doesnt support masked skins

but blaze has said before he doesnt want to really do them regardless

actually you know what theres no skins for red pill

im uninstalling

[heady gulch]

Antler never added goopy goblin support

[harsh moat]

so sad...

[dusk yacht]

add a white forest giant skin

also an idea, make it so in lethalconfig we can increase and decrease chance of each skin on each moon that would be custom moons compatible (really simple to do)

[heady gulch]

That's...

All already in the mod

[harsh moat]

bro just download the mod 😭

[heady gulch]

Just read the readme

[dusk yacht]

i did and im just checking all of the skins out with control company

just didnt see the config mb

[harsh moat]

bro is stuck in 2023 mods

[dusk yacht]

fr

[dusk yacht]

custom moon compatible too?

[harsh moat]

API has support for that yes

[dusk yacht]

this mod is absolute peak

EVEN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR

bro this mod is so fucking peak

[heady gulch]

Should really just check the thunderstore page for the mods, the readme explains everything and has an album for all the skins

the albums are even pinned here in the thread

[dusk yacht]

alr

[heady gulch]

Anyways I go take powernap now

one little tease spoiler

https://tenor.com/view/gn-suwbay-nii-mayornii-goodnight-gif-1636956098747311272

[dusk yacht]

gn

[harsh moat]

bar

[solar cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-member-toight-like-a-tiger-gif-3561878

[dusk yacht]

dont make masked skins, i know theyre not here but please dont, stuff like mirage does that already

[solar cobalt]

already off the itinerary

[marsh fjord]

He looks like jello

[solar cobalt]

you're jello

[vale swift]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-i-love-gold-goldmember-gif-19735343

[dusk yacht]

what the hell are those lowercase moons in the config?

[harsh moat]

theyre moon tags LLL has

[dusk yacht]

and how do i use them?

[harsh moat]

if you set skins to spawn based on a tag, all of the moons with that tag can have those skins

canyon is used by assurance and offense, if you set a nutcracker skin to spawn on canyon tagged moons, it can be on both of them

[dusk yacht]

can you dm me

[harsh moat]

personally i prefer individual skin configuration one moon at a time

[harsh moat]

so i found an old code of my mod pack from like 6+ months ago

it has the old version of colorful on it

so i make it stablized for v69, load in, and uh

the funny???

[heady gulch]

The Infamous Bronze, Silver, Gold Trio:

[harsh moat]

true

[fair raptor]

Why r they wearing latex suits...

Also yeah coil-heads got busted somehow back then

Probably had to do with their new cooldown state

[heady gulch]

Nah, back then the SkinKit had an error where the body material would apply to the nails and the nail material would apply to the body

I didn't know about it at first because I was putting them wrong the whole time, so when I fixed it that's when I found out about the error

[fair raptor]

a

[abstract forge]

Btw I wanted to thank you for pushing that update for ColorfulSuitVariety that gets rid of the paid feature due to the bug with MoreSuits, I know my group will be happy about that lol

[heady gulch]

Hey again everyone, I just pushed an update to ExtraEnemyVariety that adds more skins based off Wesley's moons, both new and old!

(Spoilers for Wesley's Moons Journeys update below)

||Utril Infused (Spore Lizard)||
||Utril Grown (Spore Lizard)||
||Polarus Iced (Earth Leviathan)||
||Lecaro Observer (Bracken)||
||Thalasso Bubbling (Hydrogere)||
||Oldred Spill (Nutcracker)||
||Hyve Mind (Hoarder Bug)||
||Desolation Diseased (Eyeless Dog)||
||Demetrica Splattered (Coilhead)||
||Calist Decayed (Old Bird)||
||Cubatres Shine (Maneater)||
||Junic Rose (Tulip Snake)||
||Empra Gold (Jester + Barber)||

In addition:

• Fixed certain skins overriding all other skins when an enemy spawns with it
• All moon specific skins are now preconfigured to be only guaranteed on their respective moons by default
• Released a branch mod of ExtraEnemyVariety that only contains the moon-specific skins, MoonEnemyVariety

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DistinctBlaze/MoonEnemyVariety/

Album for Extra will be updated eventually but you can see the new skins in MEV's gallery in the modpage. Also should make it clear that all the enemy skins in MoonEnemyVariety are still in ExtraEnemyVariety and will always be. It's just a lite option for those who only want the moon skins

[abstract forge]

Absolute W of an update

[wind berry]

👀

I love these
They look really cool

[abstract forge]

100% agreed ^^

[fair raptor]

Oiled up nutcracker..,

[solar cobalt]

how long was Rocked Out in the Earth Leviathan section?

[heady gulch]

Oh, that's a new one haha. Not based on anything, Disco just felt like making it after making the other Worm in this update

[solar cobalt]

nice

[harsh moat]

would a zed dog eyeless dog skin be a possibility? "eyeless zed" sounds funny as a name for it

[fair raptor]

This would be better for the kidnapper fox

ZedFox is, well, a fox, and eyeless dogs aren't canines to begin with

Plus kidnapper foxes need some love in the extra skins department

[harsh moat]

ok but

eyeless zed

[fair raptor]

no

Kidnapper zed sounds funnier

[heady gulch]

The reason we haven’t really done Kidnapper fox skins in ExtraEnemyVariety is because they have both the messiest texture and are the hardest to judge how the skin would look in game

We can’t check in blender like we usually do because we don’t have the shader material that gives them the raised/puffy moving fur

[solar cobalt]

there's also the fact that theyre no longer a vanilla enemy, meaning not as much reason to reskin it if not everyone has it

[heady gulch]

Personally, the fact they aren’t a vanilla enemy doesn’t really deter me from wanting to make skins for them, I’d like to, it’s just how tedious they are

[abstract forge]

The removal of the Fox is still a Crime honestly, although that moment where it pulled you out of the ship as it was leaving I can see why people complained

That was evil

[solar cobalt]

good times

[heady gulch]

Oh, and in addition, because we can’t really mess with the material (only replace textures) that also limits how much we can do with the Kidnapper Fox

Overall just a lot of things going against making a skin for the Fox

[solar cobalt]

f

[abstract forge]

Yinigma just suddenly leaving and abandoning EnemySkinKit and EnemySkinRegistry is also a real shame

😦

At least they're Licensed so people can fork them and maintain them though

At this point I doubt they'll break though, Zeekerss is pretty much done with LC and iirc when he returns his plan is to try and add an ending and pull it out of Early Access

[harsh moat]

i blame the competitive lethal company community for its removal primarily still

its so fucking stupid how they reacted to it

[heady gulch]

Not too worried about it since Zeekers doesn’t seem like he’ll be updating any time soon and most of the time something breaks in an update it’s mostly minor for EnemySkinKit/Registry. What I’d be most worried about is future compatibility with new enemies if Zeeker’s decides to add more

Still a shame Antler left, but I kinda understand why they did

[abstract forge]

They got busy with RL stuff and just slowly lost motivation

It sucks but it is what it is

[dusk yacht]

what does distinctenemyvariety add?

[heady gulch]

Skins based on my moon mod, DistinctMoonVariety

[late umbra]

Fox being removed was probably a major contributor to Zeekerss feeling burnt out. It’s a shame too since towards the end Kidnapper Fox was feeling more and more balanced.

With the vain shrouds spawning bugs fixed from YesFox and the cheaper weed killer ever since v60 I’ve noticed the fox is a manageable enemy.

Most people overreacted, but I can see why. In the beta every moon had a 20% chance to grow shrouds every day.

And unlike in YesFox the iterations were unreasonably high.

[versed ferry]

||no oil-heads for oldred...||

[versed ferry]

i thought zeekerss plan was to stop working on LC for a bit so they didn't rush the ending, and could add some more stuff before then

[solar cobalt]

we havr a better ending anyway, thanks to Journeys

[severe echo]

🫡 another great release

[stiff sorrel]

giants pre-nerf felt MUCH worse than fox

[storm bolt]

the main problem wasn't the kidnapper fox it was the vain shrouds

[storm bolt]

yeah, I thought that he was going to finish Welcome To The Dark Place (or at least finish it enough) then work on lethal company for a couple more updates

also even if its just "The Last Update" it would probably be on par with v50 in its scale

[versed ferry]

extremely bold statement for an ending that possibly isn't even concepted yet

[late umbra]

He has has showed interest in continuing it multiple times. Especially including the vanilla news panel after January first saying there’s going to be things in store this year and in an update after v65 (I think it was v67 or v69?) Zeekerss said that he’s not finished with LC, or something similar

[stiff sorrel]

hes writing a book

first he stopped with lc to work on welcome to a dark place, then stopped with WTADP and started writting a book

[late umbra]

He just does whatever he wants, can’t I'm any better

[harsh moat]

oh wait he stopped wttdp to write instead

i mean i knew he was writing a book

but i didnt know he just stopped developing

[stiff sorrel]

i may or may not read that book tho..

i've seen his stuff back when he was a roblox dev

[late umbra]

Big comparison to his work now and work when he was 12-13

[stiff sorrel]

true................

[storm bolt]

also in a now public patreon post he said he had an idea for a new interior

[heady gulch]

Updated ExtraEnemyVariety's album with the new skins

[solar cobalt]

woot

[dusk yacht]

add a unique nutcracker for etern, there's alot of them

also, would you add skins for modded enemies?

[heady gulch]

Not possible unless the dev of said modded enemy made them compatible with EnemySkinRegistry

[dusk yacht]

alr

also you should change the icons of the skins to be more accurate, maybe the official 3d model mugshot with the skin applied?

it shows the skins better

[heady gulch]

No thanks, I am very much happy with the icons they have. And when it comes to ColorfulEnemyVariety they are color accurate

[late umbra]

The little icons for the manticoils are cute

[dusk yacht]

e

btw how does the wax replica skin look like?

[harsh moat]

i love discos icons

[harsh moat]

you could use desert camo from extra

wax soldier has like an 1800s general outfit

the cheeks have a spiral on them

[vale swift]

thank you

i loved making em

[heady gulch]

I’m not really sure what I’d do for an Etern specific skin. I think the camo series of Nutcrackers already make a decent fit on there like Purple said

[harsh moat]

well etern does have a nutcracker toy scrap

you could make a skin based off that

[heady gulch]

I already thought about doing that for ||the toy store moon I forgot the name lol||

Or something for the Girl

[harsh moat]

hmmm has been a bit since a ghost girl skin

though for her i think one based off acidir would be cooler

||you can also make her slightly tilted to the left which is in reference to acidirs interior||

[heady gulch]

Given how little skins she has I could reasonably see doing both

It’s just I don’t really do much Ghost Girl skins because of that yucky lining issue she has sometimes

Also her UV being hot ass but y’know, besides that

[harsh moat]

average zeekerss UV

[dusk yacht]

well imo ghost girl doesnt need that much skins because you barely even see her

[harsh moat]

she spawns super often on acidir

wesley made it have a fucked indoor spawn curve

[heady gulch]

You could say the same to the Barber 🤔

[dusk yacht]

yea

[heady gulch]

And he has like 10+ skins lol

[harsh moat]

i dont think frequency of appearance really matters

[heady gulch]

Agreed

[dusk yacht]

you should give baboon a white skin for snowy moons

soul stealer doesnt count hes transparent

[harsh moat]

timid teal and lively olive work fine for that

[heady gulch]

I’m gonna be real with you, I can’t think of a single snowy moon thats ever had hawks spawn

[fair raptor]

CentralConfig:

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-sour-cat-cat-meme-cat-gif-4305398913986271634

[harsh moat]

i believe frostfall (if that was its name) has them spawn with unedited spawn weights

but thats one moon thats not that popular so

[harsh moat]

also this

[fair raptor]

That and Baladi Hawk from Gorgonzola Enemy Variety

[harsh moat]

baldi hawk

[fair raptor]

Yes

[dusk yacht]

baboon hawk tuah

[heady gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168516853895790655/1252665536878346302/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

No

[fair raptor]

Baboon hawk tuah

[harsh moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287954317969588307/1313330143787352125/speed.gif

[dusk yacht]

baboon hawk tuah

[heady gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1268371157317455882/1275597728566480896/hell_yeah.gif

[fair raptor]

I love that gif

[dusk yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-maneater-slap-hoodwinked-crying-gif-7075060055877268258

watch yo tone

[ripe otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/ephemeral-attachments/1238032120631263243/1338696247703506964/reverse.gif?ex=67ac0589&is=67aab409&hm=78c79e1910beb1a7c2600625817d302f64d6636d2331082fbbd4719cebc7604a&=

[fair raptor]

Life

[glossy silo]

does this work on polarus as well?

[lapis goblet]

yes

but dont use it yet

[glossy silo]

wdym

[lapis goblet]

im about to push an update for it in like less than an hour

right now it has a memory leak

[glossy silo]

sure

i wont use it yet

[glossy silo]

oh cool you also made atlas

hey is it possible to assign skyboxes to modded moons as of rn

or nah

[lapis goblet]

they work on modded moons yes

unless the moon already has a custom skybox

[glossy silo]

How can I apply it?

[lapis goblet]

its automatic

theres no manual way to add them rn

[glossy silo]

so the game just randomly assigns it?

[lapis goblet]

its not random

its based on content tags

[glossy silo]

I don't know much about making moons and stuff

oh ok

[lapis goblet]

basically moon makers are supposed to set tags for their moon that says what theme it is

like valley, canyon, tundra, etc

[glossy silo]

Ohh that makes sense

that's cool

so would junic be considered a valley

and then be given the same skybox you'd see on vow, march, and adamance

[lapis goblet]

Junic might actually use the jungle tag

i think theres a jungle tag

let me check

[glossy silo]

alright

[lapis goblet]

oh i meant marsh

but i dont have a skybox for marsh D:

not yet

anyways i got this working sooner than expected

so the update is out

for snowyweeds

[glossy silo]

nice

[stiff sorrel]

ghost girl skin suggestion.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXEksa_Rs7c

(peak song btw)

[river condor]

Nutcrackerless nutcracker skin

Someone should most definitely make that

Like just a nutcracker outside of its shell

[harsh moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263168798098325556/1341079299620606016/IMG_4596.gif

[late umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[river condor]

It would be like a little goopy eye guy

Pretty cool no?

[harsh moat]

@heady gulch so this is kind of odd

i noticed it when i was getting screenshots to show someone the pepsi skins

heres how basically every other skin looks

heres pepsi

this happens with both

[heady gulch]

Do you still play with lower graphics than usual?

[harsh moat]

i dont think that matters

but ill check

[heady gulch]

That might just be because the pepsi barber's materials are a lot more metallic than the others

[harsh moat]

really cool that interior fog is ruining my screenshots rn

[heady gulch]

RemoveInteriorFog my beloved

[heady gulch]

mm

Yeah okay maybe that's not normal

[heady gulch]

Okay, they should be good now. I tweaked their materials and pushed a hotfix

[harsh moat]

hooray

the only person using these skins for anything at all is now happier!!!

[glossy silo]

Hey can I use one of your Imgur enemy variant images in my modpack icon

[fair raptor]

@heady gulch What did u do to DistinctEnemyVariety

There's no changelog 💔

Just fixes?

[heady gulch]

Whoops, forgot about that There's new skins #1281903801623777371 message

[fair raptor]

That pink dog slays

That nutcracker skin fucking terrifies me

[fair raptor]

Love the Regretevator reference

ZEEKROS

I SEE HIMN

ONTENT WARNING

Toy robot weed killer and Pepsi

Think that's it

[heady gulch]

Ye, pretty much aced it

Disco said it was his favorite Graffiti Relic to make

[fair raptor]

Pink one's The Corrupted One, right?

[heady gulch]

Yup

[vale swift]

i did not say that

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-falling-litterbox-litter-box-gif-12362025003960216351

dementia

[late umbra]

You’ve heard of it? How do I get there?

[heady gulch]

all roads...

lead to dementia...

[versed ferry]

the oni butler skin doesn't have the ao oni chase theme...what's the point...

[harsh moat]

to be real

[heady gulch]

The butler’s music is a universal thing. If one butler skin with custom music spawns it’ll override all other butler’s music

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082

[harsh moat]

average zeekerss

[versed ferry]

no i think it's more of a skin mod base whatever it was called issue

[heady gulch]

Naur that’s legit just how Zeekers set up the sounds for Butler’s music, Antler explained it a while back I believe

Same thing for Barber’s steps

[versed ferry]

oh footsteps too is odd

but the music kinda makes sense

but anyways The SKin is disabeld by default anyways the musicd be funny Please

[heady gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-tapping-chin-taps-chin-scratch-chin-skeleton-stupid-gif-8013789921192244673

true...

[topaz silo]

@heady gulch whats with the new skins that popped up on my config? (shepard, corrupted, crystallized)

[heady gulch]

Those are from an update for DistinctEnemyVariety

Maybe I really oughta add DistinctEnemyVariety to the name of this thread or DistinctMoonVariety's thread

[topaz silo]

if possible could you add them to the imgur list?

i wanna see the new designs

[heady gulch]

You can see them here, I forgot to put them in the album so I'll put them when I'm free #1281903801623777371 message

[topaz silo]

ooo

is the prototype eyeless

[fair raptor]

Webley skin for bunker spiders in ExtraEnemyVariety when 🥺

[topaz silo]

honestly

reminds me that wesleysskins still hasnt gotten a new skin since the creaker

anyways yes

webley when

[solar cobalt]

blender is hard 🙂

and we also got a huge moon and interior update about a month ago...

[topaz silo]

yea ik
yall have been giving alot already

was just curious

[dusk yacht]

sellbodies support when