Vile Vending Machine

[crude tulip]

i dont have poltergeist if you're talking bout the mod

[steel gorge]

ye the mod

the issue is prob some very specific scenario where it bugs out and desyncs

[crude tulip]

please excuse the 35mb size

i got something dying inside of there

[steel gorge]

nah its fine

ye ill investigate, ty

[harsh grove]

might be an input utils incompat maybe?

i think poltergeist requires input utils

[steel gorge]

nah i found an error in the logs

[crude tulip]

niceeeee

[harsh grove]

tiny little boy

[steel gorge]

why he so small lol

[sturdy robin]

the tiny people need their own vending machine too you know

[steel gorge]

oh nah im jus asking just incase its a bug lol

[harsh grove]

I was playing with #1241004917746044988

the outside size multipliers are hilarious cuz they range from 0.5x to 3x the normal size

[steel gorge]

ah ok 😁

[little spire]

how does this config setting work cause i havent encountered the machine at any of these places

"just follow the format" doesnt explain it well enough

does "Level" have to be included after the moon name?

does there have to be a space inbetween the commas? cause sometimes thats also a thing

[steel gorge]

nah your config is fine, the only thing id say is put the spawn rates higher, like at least double if your not seeing it spawn

[little spire]

does it take 0 power? i saw that before scrolling

[steel gorge]

ye 0

[harsh grove]

honestly the best way to use this mod imo is to just set it to "All:9999" and set the spawn cap to 1

[little spire]

ok but i dont want it to always spawn

[little spire]

ok yeah so after some more testing this thing just does not spawn properly at all on some moons
i only saw this on embrion, but it trys to spawn, and it spawned floating in front of main when it did, and then it just deletes itself

it works on experimentation at least

i will try to have it spawn inside now

now its just not spawning at all after setting the weight on all moons to 9999, removing every other indoor spawn, and being on eclipsed embrion

ok i finally found open vents and yeah they just do not spawn inside properly

[steel gorge]

ye there is pretty much never enough spade inside for it to spawn

[steel gorge]

how did u see it? it supposed to be invisible when spawning

[harsh grove]

I've had it floating on some moons before

mostly modded ones though

I think it checks for where the "Main Entrance" scan node is and places the machine there, cuz it almost always happens with really big moons

[little spire]

i think it finishes spawning and then it just dies

[steel gorge]

ye thats the thing that makes sure it doesnt spawn in a bad place

but is it visible normally or are u using a dev tool or somethin

[little spire]

no, what happened was i flew away from the entrance for a bit, came back, saw it floating above the ground right in front of the doors and it just disappeared

then i saw like 2 more pop up and die in front of me

then like 8 more in the config cause i set the max spawn to 20 to make sure it actually spawns

[steel gorge]

bruh thats fucked icl

ill defo fix the shit with it being floating cuz the bad spawn failsafe thing shouldve kicked in and unalived itself, and it should not be visible unless its properly spawned

but the spawning logic itself im not rlly sure waht to do about that cuz different people setup their maps differently, ill explain what i mean with pics in a sec just to clarify what i mean to other pples aswell

[little spire]

i will say i thought the machine didnt spawn indoors because i was using school interior

but then it didnt in facility

imo the way you could fix it spawning outside is set exact spawn points for it on all the moons and make it not spawn via a vent for an outside spawn

i know this will make them not able to spawn outside on modded moons

but i really dont know what else you could do

also whether you make it spawn via daytime or nighttime power is your choice

its maybe possible its broken because it takes 0 tbh

also another unrelated thing i just remembered

i dont like that you cant die from the machine if you just walk away enough

it completely removes the sense of dread of gambling

sorry if this is kind of taxxing for you btw

[steel gorge]

oke so it gets the location entrance teleport of a door (which is the exact location you are teleported to when u go through it), and then gets the location of the door model, and uses those two points to make an imaginary line which the vending machine moves across until its completely out of the door, but its back still touching the door.

The issue with this is that in all vanilla moons, the entrance teleport is perfectly aligned with the door, which makes the imaginary line perfectly perpendicular to the wall. As I failed to realise, 99% of people will not make their entrance teleport location perfectly aligned with the door.

The second last pic shows how the imaginary line would look on a vanilla moon, and the last pic shows how it most of the time ends up being on a modded moon, making the placement completely messed up.

[little spire]

i know you want to work on haunted harpist

[steel gorge]

nah its fine 🙂

[sage hemlock]

Question:

Does this mod work with poltergiest?

[steel gorge]

nah that was cuz ppl wanted it to be 0, there was the same issue when it was 1

[little spire]

i see

[steel gorge]

uhhhh im not 100% sure, I still havent fixed a bug that could potentially be caused by it, when I do it will 100% be compatible but i dont know for sure sry

[little spire]

the last pic is a better placement for it anyways

[steel gorge]

when i next bugfix it i can add it in the config as an option

[little spire]

anyways im guessing the mod considers adamance, embrion, and artifice as modded content

i know haunted harpist did till you updated it

[steel gorge]

nah the pic shows the imaginary line which is the line the vending machine moves across in the first stage to make sure its back is against the wall, and the middle + front aren't obstructed. If the line is angled it completelly messes it up

[steel gorge]

nah its compatible with those

[steel gorge]

For most of the vanilla moons I have

[little spire]

i mean the imaginary line

not the mod as a whole

but i guess you already made it work at those moons

anyways i dont think it has to be exactly against the wall

[steel gorge]

oh ye it works on those moons cuz the entrance teleport thingy is perfectly aligned

[little spire]

just not right in front of main

[steel gorge]

ye not exactly but good enough

[little spire]

unless theres no model at the back and youd see inside it

[steel gorge]

ye there is a model, I jus thought it was weird if its not against a wall

[little spire]

vending machines and claw machines and whatever else arent really irl

theres usually a like 50 paper sheets wide space at the back

[steel gorge]

ye i didnt mean like literally exactly against the wall, just as long as the wall is inside that box

[little spire]

wtf
secret subliminal messaging

[steel gorge]

wat??

[little spire]

joke

[steel gorge]

oh

[worthy glacier]

hey

why does the cola keep phasing through the ground

[worthy glacier]

is it a v55 thing?

[worthy glacier]

im also able to grab the cola before its even dispensed, i just figured out

[devout hamlet]

you're playing the v55 beta, expect some issues 😄

[worthy glacier]

yeahh, but im also playing with about 20 maybe 29 other mods..

idk, i'll test it by itself sometime later

probably

[little spire]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-horror-tory-story-gif-888111148736422585

[steel gorge]

Yea thats intended, i jus thought some ppl would prefer to jus grab the cola early instead of waiting

I havent made sure its compatible with v55 yet, im gonna wait until its not in beta anymore

[worthy glacier]

this is incredibly easy to tell whether or not the player is gonna get killed or not, right?

cause the player can just run away if they dont see the cola

i prefer you make it so it just spawns the cola maybe before the door opens..

[steel gorge]

you still die regardless of where you are (if you are the one who used the vending machine on that turn of course)

[steel gorge]

the cola spawns 0.5 seconds before the door opens

[worthy glacier]

i was really thinking thats how it worked

but i think it should probably change..

[steel gorge]

to what tho

[worthy glacier]

or maybe there could be a config for it, for people that want the death to be inevitable

[worthy glacier]

the way it kills

i was expecting something alot similar to jeff, from the company building

[steel gorge]

I think i was gonna do that cuz someone else said the same thing a while ago but forgot 💀

[worthy glacier]

bro its a good idea ngl

[steel gorge]

ye but then its just free stuff tho

[worthy glacier]

not exactly

what if there was also a range thing for its attack

or config basically

that would actually be the same thing

nvm

[steel gorge]

yea i will add that and make the range configurable, but imo it jus removes the point of the enemy cuz if u have a jetpack u can jus deposit item -> fly backwards -> repeat and u get free stuff

[worthy glacier]

well you do have configs for the probability of it not giving something so idk about it being free, i guess is what i was tryna think

[steel gorge]

actually yea if I add that then it would be fine tbh

[worthy glacier]

by default, maybe the probability of being killed should be increased, cause i thought to myself "you could just throw in a key, almost at the start of any day, and get a 90 dollar cola"

[little spire]

no you dont

[worthy glacier]

i thought u did already lol

[little spire]

so it must be bugged

or it only works for clients

[worthy glacier]

bro no way

[steel gorge]

nah

[steel gorge]

lemme check the code jus to make sure

[worthy glacier]

why is desync such a big issue for lc mods

[little spire]

desync is an issue in the vanilla game too

[steel gorge]

bc the game is coded like ass

[little spire]

its why nutcrackers dont tip-toe if you arent host

or why old bird positions are desynced

[worthy glacier]

idk what u mean about this really but

is the old bird position really like

thats a thing?

breh

[steel gorge]

ill test it later but it should be fine and I dont remember it being bugged with killing ppl

[worthy glacier]

i was gonna say that could be a mod thing

idk about desync being a vanilla thing but i definitely come across it using mods

[little spire]

nutcrackers are supposed to tip-toe towards their target after theyve fired two shots

[worthy glacier]

ohh yeah that

[little spire]

but it only happens if youre the host

[worthy glacier]

..tf???

[little spire]

old bird position desync is them teleporting

and sometimes attacking you while "invisible"

they arent actually invisible their model is just somewhere else on the map

this does not happen if youre the host though

oh yeah also thats why nutcrackers do this like, lunge forwards
its them fixing their position for your end

[worthy glacier]

we are literally fighting anomalies

lmfao

[bitter ocean]

@steel gorge just curious, how did you manage to do the soda rolling on the ground? Is it just an animation?

[worthy glacier]

i feel like its a physical thing, cause mine keeps going through the ground.

[steel gorge]

kinda yes but mostly no. Theres an animation which opens the vending machine door and animates the cola going onto the floor. Halfway through the anim it will call an animation event to make it switch to rigidbody physics, and then apply force and torque _currentColaBehaviour.transform.SetParent(null); Rigidbody colaRigidbody = _currentColaBehaviour.GetComponent<Rigidbody>(); colaRigidbody.isKinematic = false; colaRigidbody.AddForce(transform.forward * 5f, ForceMode.Impulse); colaRigidbody.AddTorque(transform.right * 20f, ForceMode.Impulse);

[bitter ocean]

Oooh pretty cool tbh

[steel gorge]

jus incase ur asking cuz u wanna do something similar, u will needa mess around with the rigidbody mass and drag and the collider physic material

otherwise it wont roll normally 😦

[bitter ocean]

Yep hoverboard has a physics material, am slightly familiar with them

Pain in the ass too

[steel gorge]

you made a fucking hoverboard mod?!!?

[bitter ocean]

Ye way before the company cruiser

I wanted to race zeekerss

[steel gorge]

oh shit nice

[bitter ocean]

Same week I decided to make it he announced the CC, so it took me 3 weeks but I beat him by a week 😂

It's part of code Rebirth lol

[steel gorge]

i needa check that out

[bitter ocean]

Gotta say, vehicle was hard af

I needed to mess with parenting a lot

[jagged blade]

oh yeah thats right, now we have 2 vehicles

[bitter ocean]

Will probably have more later, batby made it a lot easier to make vehicles

[south pecan]

Well cruiser variants

[little spire]

still waiting for someone to make a boat for flooded moons

[steel gorge]

id like to make some sort of drone/jet thing but it would be kinda useless tbh cuz of small maps

[steel gorge]

someone was making that like months ago, idk what happened to it

like a rowing boat

[bitter ocean]

Hoverboard code could be easily derived to make this be physics based boat

[south pecan]

Elaborate?

[steel gorge]

like one of those futuristic vtol planes that have fans

never played halo before so idk but something that looks kinda like this

[bitter ocean]

We do have a player riding animation now

Batby also pointed smthn out to me which makes my colliders on the hoverboard a lot more moon friendly

I didnt know I could just make two colliders ignore eachother, one of the major problems was that I needed every rigidbody and box collider to exclude all the players' colliders

Because the client loves to flip out and clip and cause shit to happen

[worthy glacier]

should make a little dropship that looks old

if that makes any sense

[steel gorge]

wont that make ppl able to walk through the hoverboard tho?

[bitter ocean]

Not if u only ignore the colliders when the player mounts it

Which isn't in the current hoverboard version but ywah

[steel gorge]

ooh oke fair enough

[worthy glacier]

this happened after the machine was supposed to kill me, and it didnt

after about like 10 seconds or so it just crashed

please make this v56 compatible ;-;

[sacred scarab]

only issue with v55/56 compatibility is that it won't be compatible with v50 anymore, which will break it for anyone not playing the beta

which is an issue because Thunderstore lacks game-version specific releases

[steel gorge]

ye as Hamnuii said, if i change it to v56 then ppl using v50 cant use it, so im gonna wait till its not in beta anymore

[tiny hare]

ah of course

[little spire]

this the is saddest lethal companyany modded of time

[steel gorge]

💀

[south pecan]

Technically satisfies spawn requirements

[steel gorge]

ill hopefully get the v56 compatible version out later, and I've changed the code that causes people errors when trying to place items on the hand, so hopefully that will fix it but no guarantees

the only thing is, I cant add the v56 compatible tag and/or change the title of the thread cuz the owner of the thread isnt in the server anymore 💀

[strong moth]

@silver gust Wanna do something for once?😝 ^^^

[silver gust]

Wow called out

lol

@steel gorge
What do you want the title of the thread to be?

[steel gorge]

jus remove the [v50 Compatible ] pls

[silver gust]

Vile Vending Machine

[steel gorge]

ty

[agile ore]

I think there's an issue with the can clipping through the floor

I gave the vile vending machine an item in offense and it went through the floor, not sure if this is an known issue

[steel gorge]

ye i fixed that and the clientside item bug thingybob, theres jus a lil thing i needa also fix and havent got round to yet

[agile ore]

Ohhh it just hasn't been pushed for release then?

[little spire]

figo trying to do everything everywhere all at once

[agile ore]

Aightt just wanted to make sure it was known 😄

[steel gorge]

nah not yet, should be in the next day or so tho

[steel gorge]

ye ty 😃

[steel gorge]

yea lol

[steel gorge]

updated the mod

[plush trout]

just encountered it for the first time and the mf already has a grudge against me. i gave this bitch a bottle as the first item and it killed me. i just wanted 1 company cola

[serene star]

You know it's not gamblers who quit

Did you know 99% of gamblers die before their big win?

[plush trout]

true!

lets keep gambkling!

[silver hatch]

Yippee

[steel gorge]

thats legit a 1% chance of happening lol (assuming ur using the base settings)

super unlucky 😢

[wicked otter]

does the vile vending machine has no collision?

i kinda just passed through it

the only log i got was this:

[13:52:23.5071991] [Info :Matty's Fixes] Company Cola computed vertical offset is now 0.002389908
[13:52:23.5171991] [Error : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_00009)
LethalCompanyVileVendingMachine.CompanyColaBehaviour.Start () (at C:/Users/Louis/RiderProjects/LethalCompanyVileVendingMachine/LethalCompanyVileVendingMachine/src/CompanyColaBehaviour.cs:36)

[13:52:23.5171991] [Error : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_00009)
LethalCompanyVileVendingMachine.CompanyColaBehaviour.Start () (at C:/Users/Louis/RiderProjects/LethalCompanyVileVendingMachine/LethalCompanyVileVendingMachine/src/CompanyColaBehaviour.cs:36)

[steel gorge]

that error is cuz I needed to add code that undid the dumb shit zeeker's added where he hardcoded all props' colliders to exclude specific layers instead of doing it in unity like a normal person. Its not related to the vending machine not having a hitbox tho, ill release a bandage fix in a bit

[strong moth]

I think the no hitbox thing has existed for awhile, I remember seeing that months ago XD

[little spire]

the hand has a hitbox but not the machine itself

[wicked otter]

i downloaded this mod a few days ago 😅 , i didn't know

[steel gorge]

it technically does, its just for some reason (either unity being weird/im doing something wrong or zeeker's enemy collision script is a bit bugged), the game thinks that the hitbox for the hand (its needed so you can hover over it and the game knows ur hovering over it) is the hitbox for the actual enemy itself

[little spire]

if i had to guess its because the hand is what kills you

[steel gorge]

nah, vending machine script is attached to the main body. The script attached to the hand is jus the interact trigger thingy which lets u do stuff like climb ladders, open doors etc

i think i can fix it with a bandaid solution, but i needa finish the aloe bracken first

[steel gorge]

uploaded a new update which should fix that error

[woeful cipher]

Running into an issue, likely a mod conflict, where the vending machine is appearing for some people, but not for others , seemingly random. Appearing offset in position visually (like in the door instead of to the side where it's node is). Mostly been running on Custom moons, not sure if it has done this on any vanilla moons. So some players can see it, some can't, sometimes it's where it shouldn't be. When there is a node it's a small invisible box that can be run into but seemingly no interactions appearing.
It did work properly a few times, which doesn't help.

[steel gorge]

sounds weird. I'd need more info to persue fixing this tho

[woeful cipher]

Naturally when I try to have it broken:

[rustic sequoia]

its broken on all modded moons for me

same as the image but does even open up

[steel gorge]

It spawning weird in modded moons is expected, because the thing that it uses to calculate where to spawn assumes that certain things are true, that are true in all vanilla maps, but most of the time arent in modded moons (which I realised ages ago was a dumb assumption, but there isnt any other way to have the spawning mechanism work at all without the assumption)

The only other solution is to use hardcoded values, which I might resort to if im ever bothered to make some sort of dev tool item, where you can place a fake vending machine in a good place, and tben it will tell u its coordinates and rotation (which u then give to me so I can hard code it). It would use the same mechanism as moving a ship item (as in the big green thing appearing)

[night torrent]

Does changing the config for it to appear only inside the facility can fix the placement problem on modded moons? How does it work in modded interiors tho?

[steel gorge]

The mechanics are the same for moon and interior placement, so technically it could work for some modded interiors and some modded moons

[night widget]

Any one looking for a modder

[steel gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-house-huh-text-hugh-laurie-gif-10690264267560712781

[scarlet ibex]

This might be a bit weird, but is there any chance having the VVM act like data chips/story logs could solve the issue?

I might've misunderstood how this works, but what if instead of having a shortcut "spawn next to door" there could be an option to let players choose the coordinates it spawns on for every modded moon?

It would probably come at the expense of being user friendly and difficult to use/understand, so like LQ it could have a toggle between legacy and advanced spawn logic.

Legacy would be its current itteration, but advanced would let people pick and choose its location.

[scarlet ibex]

It's technically what you proposed, Darth, but instead of you choosing the locations, it'd fall to the players instead.

[steel gorge]

yea that is what ive wanted to do for a while, its jus that

1). they also need to get the VM's rotation aswell as its position, which would make it even more annoying for ppl to do.

2). I dont rlly expect ppl to go running around doing this shiz for me and

3). If its a really really simple system where: someone finds a suitable spot for the VM -> they post the position and rotation in this thread -> I hard code it in, then I'm happy to do so, but if it requires more than that then I can't really be bothered (I don't expect you to obviously lol, but if you really want you can fork the git repo, make the feature you wanted and then I'll merge it and credit you in the mod readme).

[scarlet ibex]

If it boils down to you can't be bothered... fair XD I know virtually nothing concrete about it so it's probably much MUCH easier said than done. That said I think I could better clarify my intent.

I'm not entirely suggesting players do your work, at least not entirely? It'd be an opt in config enabling players to choose between conventional, what we have now, or customized VM placements. Everyday players could work off what currently exists while dedicated mod pack creators are given the freedom to personalize, hide, bury, or troll with their placements. Placement data could even be shared amongst VVM users... but that's all assuming you or someone else makes that possible. Again, probably much easier said than done and I can tell from how LQ does things it's a major hassle to put together.

I proposed that method because I'm unsure if making a customizable tool is easier or harder than making positions for every moon, but thought it'd be good to at least suggest the idea.

[steel gorge]

ye its a good idea, its jus i cant really be bothered to do allat for a smallish mod

[south cypress]

its mega broken right now

i cant even gamble!

i hate this game!

[steel gorge]

yea sorry it hasnt been updated to the new version yet cuz im in like 900 different projects, but I should be able to update it soon hopefully

[harsh grove]

If you ever need a break just give me a shout bud

It'd be well deserved anyway 🙏

[steel gorge]

nah its fine lol

[torn wraith]

just came here to say how fucking AWESOME this mod is.

Do you plan to make any other like, inanimate monsters?

[torn wraith]

You should make it so you can drink the sodas and shit happens

[strong moth]

Can you please fix the machine itself not having collision?😅 It's so weird that it's only the hand😂

[steel gorge]

Ill try to do it today

[steel gorge]

Ty

[steel gorge]

The guy who made the mod (im not the author, just the coder) doesn’t make lethal company mods anymore afaik. He quit a while ago cuz hes rlly busy

[rustic sequoia]

Didnt yall have that one arcade machine modeled?

[blissful tulip]

I hope someone can at least pick up this mod + the arcade machine and continue them to later versions, they were honestly some of the few modded enemies I genuinely enjoyed in the game since they felt fitting to the games atmosphere, while having personality of their own.

[whole sentinel]

That’s tough… I hope the vender continues to work atleast

I scroll up and it seems it doesn’t, shame

[little spire]

its actually been broken for months on every moon that isnt experimentation
i was the first one to report issues about it not properly spawning in that time frame

figo needs his time
bro is doing a ton of stuff

this
haunted harpist
hachiman for seichi
biodiversiry p sure also

[whole sentinel]

Experimentation is the moon I wanted it on the most anyway

[harsh grove]

he did aloe for biodiversity and is doing a bunch of misc bugfixes yes

[whole sentinel]

Moons with low scrap to risk ratios like experi offense and Embrion

[harsh grove]

poor Figo got s1ckboy syndrome . ..

[whole sentinel]

They did aloe?

Ahh

[little spire]

experimentation has high risk?

[harsh grove]

yeah! he's listed with his real name in the credits

[whole sentinel]

I know coding that is a hassle

[harsh grove]

I assume to use it for his future portfolio

[whole sentinel]

No but it has no reward

[harsh grove]

moreso low scrap

and scrap with low value to gamble

[whole sentinel]

It wouldn’t work aswell on a moon like Adamance that already has a ton imo

[little spire]

i get more scrap from exp than offense and march solo on average

[whole sentinel]

Lucky

[little spire]

no im not

[harsh grove]

well that's cuz you're running solo

[little spire]

offense and march are just bad

[whole sentinel]

March is lukewarm but it isn’t bad

Offense is A rank in disguise

[harsh grove]

if you had more people you'd get more scrap on march than exp, they're just harder moons for solo cuz they've got a lot going on and huge interiors

[harsh grove]

for solo play yes

[whole sentinel]

March has bees too

[little spire]

i think theyre just overall bad

tier 2 should give more value on average even solo

theres no reason why especially assurance should give as much as it does

adamance is the only one that has a proper "tier 2 difficulty" payout

but adamance requires obtuse strategies to survive

[whole sentinel]

There’s a lot of stuff that could use balancing but I like it not being straightforward

Experi March offense n Adamance are all b but they’re not at all the same level of difficult

[harsh grove]

yeah, you can get more than a slightly low performing experimentation's worth of money on march by collecting hives alone if you get more than a single one

[little spire]

experimentation can only have 5/6 hives so march is better

trollface

[harsh grove]

but anyway, I already asked Figo if he wants and a break but it seems he's hell-bent on not slowing down at all lmao

[harsh grove]

perfect logic

[shy dirge]

Hello!

It seems that the vending machine doesn't register properly on modded moons

Is there a way that I can fix this?

[whole sentinel]

I’ve heard that it doesn’t work the way it should on any moon that isn’t experimentation

[shy dirge]

oh ok

[shy dirge]

thats weird

[whole sentinel]

It is, I’ve also heard that the dev is very busy right now

[shy dirge]

ok

[rustic sequoia]

wrong

ive had him work on many moons

he DOES break somewhat randomly tho

[little spire]

havent seen it spawn anywhere else

well

i have on embrion

but it kills itself

and its floating above the main entrance

[rustic sequoia]

yeah thats the main issue

something he shits himself

[bitter ocean]

Hachiman is me lol

Which means I'm technically working on 8 mods simultaneously rn

[little spire]

wtf i thought you dropped out of that

[bitter ocean]

Nah, I wouldn't do s1ckboy like that

Plus enemyai's are easy for me to code

[steel gorge]

ive kinda got burnt out of lethal company modding, the only stuff ive done recently in the past week or so is biodiversity stuff

[steel gorge]

o

it should work on vanilla moons fine

we've prob had this convo 10 times and then I forget the next day 💀

[rustic sequoia]

only issue rn is him sometimes becoming frozen and not doing anything

on modded moons

[steel gorge]

the issue with modded moons is, the only feasible solution is to hardcode the spawn coordinates

[steel gorge]

o

that might be just cuz i havent compiled the dll for the new version yet

or some shit

[rustic sequoia]

yeah I dont care about jank spawning

I just want him to work

its kinda random when the bug happens

hope that and harpist are patched because I love both

[rustic sequoia]

I could not expect him to be place perfectly on modded moons XD, that would be crazy

[steel gorge]

lol

[rustic sequoia]

make sure you rest up but do hope harpist can return

burnout is hell tho

ive done that on many projects

[steel gorge]

Yee

[steel gorge]

Fax

[rustic sequoia]

I have a massive custom card set for a card game I enjoy and after I released I have about 100 different things to patch

and I didnt save the original photoshop files

so id have to redit the base images which is a pain in the ass

[steel gorge]

Bruh that’s long 😫

[harsh grove]

like I said, you can take a break!!! it's alright!!

[vapid raft]

anybody have an issue where when the vending machine tries to kill you it just... doesnt? and it creates a crushed can even withouted killing me

maybe its just cause i spawned it in myself?

ill have to test further but anybody else know anything about this?

[little spire]

it wont if you just walk far away

not a bug but will be fixed i believe

[vapid raft]

oh

that seems pretty important tho

ig i'll just wait

[torn wraith]

i set the spawn rate to like 10

and it spawns every game

at least by the end of the game i mean,

[little spire]

10 spawn weight or x10?

[torn wraith]

oh god

idk

[little spire]

if its only by the end of the round then its probably 10 weight

increase it by like 20 if you want to see it more i guess

[iron dock]

Mod is currently broken for clients

(Some RPC error. Will check if I still have it)

[steel gorge]

1.1.2

• Made the vending machine compatible with v64.
• Made the company cola compatible with the new belt bag item from v64.
• Finally figured out how to make the vending machine a solid object, so you cant go through it anymore.

Sorry for taking 5 light years to update it 💀

[sinful finch]

Thanks my boy

I Will reinable it

[harsh grove]

FUCK yeah

[harsh grove]

take as long as you want goat

so ready to play w this WOO

[tidal coral]

Would it be possible to add an optional spawning mechanism that doesn't use LethalLib the weighted random spawning logic?
i.e. a flat % chance of the enemy spawning or not, where it spawns instantly at the beginning of the day, ideally configurable on a per-moon basis.

[sinful finch]

or a spawnrate like the peepers

[blissful tulip]

This made my day you have no idea.

I love this thing and my group is cheering at the news, LOL

[steel gorge]

glad you like it!

[little spire]

did you fix the broken spawning

[steel gorge]

I'm not sure what you mean. The spawn config is this:

VendingMachineSpawnRarity = cfg.Bind(
    "Vending Machine Spawn Values", 
    "Vending Machine Spawn Rarity",
    "All:30",
    "Spawn weight of the Vending Machine on all moons. You can to add to it any moon, just follow the format (also needs LLL installed for LE moons to work with this config)."
);

It says All:30, but you can configure the chance for moons individually e.g. Experimentation:43,Titan:90,Seichi:20

[steel gorge]

as in it not working on modded moons?

[little spire]

no just it not spawning properly in general

maybe i missed it was patched

[steel gorge]

when I tested it earlier it was fine, hopefully it was just an issue with the mod not being compiled with the latest version of lethal company or somethin

just to note, on vanilla moons where I have pre-configured spawn locations, I also added spawns for the fire escape door thingies

not all of them but most of em

u can disable it spawning at escape doors in le config if u dont want it tho

[little spire]

@steel gorge its spawning is still broken

it spawns on experimentation at least

[steel gorge]

what moon/s did it break on?

[little spire]

adamance and embrion

just check everywhere in case

[steel gorge]

Ill add preconfigured spots for all vanilla moons

Zeekers did touch stuff with the map colliders, thats why in v56 the colas would fall through the ground n stuff

I cba to fix the vending machine spawning if that is the case though, because it wounldnt work on modded moons still anyway

[whole sentinel]

Ayyyy

[tiny hare]

that uses a weight system like every other enemy, they mean a percent chance for it to instantly spawn

[tidal coral]

yes that's what I mean. Sorry I didn't get to reply earlier

[forest oyster]

i dont know if its intended but i find it hilarious you can feed the maneater to it

[somber ravine]

that's awesome

[vapid raft]

can you still simply walk away from this enemy to avoid it killing you? or has that been fixed

[shut osprey]

Just here to ask if it's just straight up not spawning for anyone else?

[rustic sequoia]

its been patched

[vapid raft]

:D

[vapid raft]

anybody have any issues with vile vending machine spawning in for the inside?

i adjusted the config properly

[rustic sequoia]

ive never seen one spawn indoors

[vapid raft]

its supposed to be an option.. is it still experimental?

[rustic sequoia]

I ended up turning them off inside since I assumed it was a problem with modded interiors

so im unsure

[steel gorge]

it can technically spawn indoors, but its very rare that it does since there usually isnt enough space

[harsh grove]

I think this still fucks up for clients when using poltergeist

https://tenor.com/view/buzzlightyear-buzz-sad-disappointed-buzzsad-gif-1746575771836696645

can't do funny gambling

[upbeat lynx]

I highly doubt this would be added, but a feature where the crushed cola has a different appearance using the colour pallete or something from the skin of the player it killed would be very funny
A far simpler thing would be if you could have it named after the player, like a "Zeta Cola" if i died to it, assuming it would just take their steam name or whatever

[steel gorge]

Sry ik uve said it before but what does poltegheist thing do to mess up the vending machcine?

Is it just the poke/annoy enemy mechanic thingy

[steel gorge]

I could add that as an option yea

The name thing that is

[upbeat lynx]

Awesome, would love that

[harsh grove]

Im not sure what it is, but whenever I play with poltergeist on clients just can't put anything on the machine's hand

maybe it's not poltergeist? I'll have to see but it happens consistently

[steel gorge]

ah ok, ye ill look into it

[upbeat lynx]

i've had this happen in general, and i dont have poltergeist
Clients just cannot use the vending machine and they call me over to do it for them

next time it does i will try and get a log

[harsh grove]

oh! thanks, honestly thought it was polter

no idea what it might be honestly

[torn wraith]

yeah so this mod still for me just spawns every single time regardless of spawn rarity

[steel gorge]

i think the spawn values are a bit confusing, cuz on most modded moons the vending machine will try to spawn and not find a good placement, so it unspawns itself

and then ppl think that the vending machine never actually spawned in the first place

so they put the spawn values higher which makes it spawn all the time on moons where it does work

[honest lava]

big fan of the vending machine. gives you a purpose for the sticky note and the training manuel in the ship. :)

[upbeat lynx]

These still dont seem to work with clients. There are random off-chances where they can, but at most times they cannot and they need me as the host to do it.
We never get any errors either about it
Modpack and modlist if needed: 0193708d-73e0-496d-6bfe-9a6fcec6bf2d

[ripe crescent]

Is this still an issue?

@steel gorge

[ripe crescent]

This too, I guess

[steel gorge]

yea both issues are still apparent i think (havent tested the mod recently, but since i havent updated the code I doubt anything has changed)

both of those bugs seem to be caused by some complex interaction between many different mods (not their fault tho), because 99% of the time when I try to test it myself it works fine

so yea prob wont be fixed unfortunately

[blissful tulip]

Hopefully one day this guy gets fixed in the far future, he's honestly my favorite modded entity in LC. I have suffered many deaths though with my friends asking me to be the trader with him due to the host-client bug.

[ripe crescent]

Agree

[ripe crescent]

Is the vender a daytime entity or nighttime entity?

Aka, which power slot of a moon does it fill?

[ripe crescent]

?????????????????????

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[rustic sequoia]

I'm sad that I've seen the art from your pfp before lol

[ripe crescent]

Lmfao

[steel gorge]

the one which most monsters use, not the daytime one

it should technically be in the daytime one, but i cba to move it + it dont matter

[steel gorge]

theres several failsafes that make it automatically de-existify itself

when u spawn it, it will remain invisible and wait until any other alive vending machines are finished spawning. When there are no other vending machines still spawning, it will then try to find the class in the game which holds the location of all of the doors, and sometimes it just cant find it (no idea why and how this happens, but yea). If it cant find it, it will die (instead of using up power level doing nothing)

by "spawning" i mean it will do the thing where it tries to find a nice spot next to the door

[ripe crescent]

This is probably why it's hard to see this thing spawn, even with a weight of 100

[steel gorge]

if i turned the failsafes off tho, then ud just see random ass floating vending machines in the most weird positions

[ripe crescent]

It either doesn't spawn, or immediately kills itself upon spawning in my experience while debugging

(The oracle tells me that a VileVendingMachine isn't there in those rounds most of the time)

[steel gorge]

yea it is quite fucked tbh; the failsafe is prob triggering too much. Even if i did fix that tho, the only feasible way to have a vending machine spawn near the door is to just hardcode the coordinates and best rotation spot for each door

I tried to do it dynamically but theres jus several big roadblocks

like for example, one issue is where the z-forward of doors will sometimes be pointing in a random ass direction, whereas its supposed to ideally be pointing in a forward direction from the door

theres also like 1 million different edge cases of whether there are big cliffs right next to the door, weird shapes, low roof, etc etc

[harsh grove]

maybe a better way to spawn it would be finding the entrance and fire exit triggers, then looking for the closest AI node?

it's super hard to get such a unique enemy to spawn properly on all moons so I totally get why it'd be hard

[ripe crescent]

I haven’t tested them on Ooblterra, but that’s the only custom moon in my modpack

I was testing them on Assurance

[harsh grove]

maybe an extra fail-safe could be it spawning like the rock props on moons?

just, out in the open

[harsh grove]

I could always hop on w you sometime and try disabling different mods to find the culprit?

[steel gorge]

that would prob work tbh yea

but sometimes it cant even find the entrances and exists and then jus kills itself after trying for ~30 seconds

[steel gorge]

nah bro 💀

the problem occurs randomly and like

we will prob both lose our sanity doing that

[ripe crescent]

It prob be better if they had hard-coded locations on the vanilla exteriors and interiors

and leave the normal dynamic spawning to custom stuff

Kind of like fire exit mimics

[steel gorge]

most vanilla planets alr have hard coded locations aswell 💀

idk why its not working lmao

[ripe crescent]

What the fuck

It’s over

[harsh grove]

eh I'm used to doing that

[ripe crescent]

Real?

I’ve debugged my modpack so much it’s not even funny

It’s tiring

[steel gorge]

and also u cant hardcode it in interiors

[ripe crescent]

Maybe not for fire, but main, you probably could?

[harsh grove]

Minecraft troubleshooting makes me wanna end my bloodline but at least I built up a tolerance for disabling and booting up then getting the same error then disabling smth else and so on

[steel gorge]

well maybee but it works differently cuz an interior is generated randomly each time

[steel gorge]

it should work for the main vanilla interior

and on the mansion sometimes

[ripe crescent]

What about for Manor and Mineshaft?

Is it because their main entrances move now?

[steel gorge]

mineshaft i have no clue, but manor it sometimes spawns ye

[steel gorge]

that makes it more likely to spawn ye

cuz the main manor entrance alwasys had two big pillars right next to the door so it couldnt spawn

but now sometimes it can spawn in other places

[ripe crescent]

Question

[steel gorge]

ya

[ripe crescent]

Does the max spawn count for venders go both indoors and outdoors
E.g. if one is already outside, another can’t spawn indoors? CentralConfig overrides deliberate spawning techniques in favor of vanilla-like spawning, so e.g. if I wanted them to have a chance to spawn either indoors and outdoors, I would have to put their codename into the indoor and outdoor entity rosters

[steel gorge]

a vending machine always spawn outside and go invisible. It stays invisible until it finds a door to try to plonk itself next to (whether thats inside or outside). The game doesn't care that the vending machine is plonking itself outisde or inside, all it knows is that it initially spawned outside, and then it did whatever it wanted to do. E.g, a masked could spawn inside the dungeon, but then stay outside for the entire game

idk if that answers the question or not 😅

[ripe crescent]

Hm…

[steel gorge]

wait so ye central config wouldnt do anything

to it

[ripe crescent]

An easier question would be: Do they take up indoor or nighttime power slots?

I know they don’t take daytime as you’ve debunked that

[steel gorge]

its the outside power slot

theres 3 different types, cant remember the specific name of the other two

but the third one is daytime

[ripe crescent]

Alright, thank you

I’ll put them in the nighttime roster to see if that fixes CC potentially messing with them

[steel gorge]

noice

ye its this thing: https://lethal-company.fandom.com/wiki/Mechanics#Spawning_algorithm_(Outdoor_Entities)

[ripe crescent]

Erm

Will this ever be addressed

Apparently you can just... avoid being killed by the vender, who's supposed to be a guarantee death when they get aggravated at you

Or has this mod been cast to the wayside?

[steel gorge]

nah im pretty sure i added that as a config (an optional setting) cuz ppl didnt want it to be a guaranteed kill

[little spire]

i dont remember you told me this

i mean i dont have photographic memory

but anyways

i guess let those people enjoy it?? really odd to desire it though, it completely negates the vending machine doing... ANYTHING basically

[steel gorge]

yea i agree with u completely lol, its just ppl wanted it anyway for some reason

[steel gorge]

its possible I made it but didnt upload the new version of the mod or somethin, ill check later

[little spire]

by the way im sorry if i came off as aggressive when i mentioned the broken spawning

i know that was months ago but still, was not the tone i meant to give off

i was mostly baffled no one else noticed it for 4 months

[steel gorge]

nah its fine lol, i appreciate people testing the mod

[steel gorge]

prob not many ppl use it due to the bugs

[little spire]

at the time it was fairly big 🤷‍♂️

[steel gorge]

fairs

idrk icl

[little spire]

i already feel old with lethal company help

[steel gorge]

wdym

[little spire]

like, its only been a year and 2 months of the games public lifespan and i already have nostalgic feelings for it and also the classic modded era

vending machine was part of that for me

[steel gorge]

oh damn, glad to hear it. Tbh i thought the vending machine wasn't rlly used much cuz i've never (or very rarely) seen people mention it, but I always saw people talking about the harpist when it came out

[little spire]

well, now a days i dont really enjoy the harpist all too much, but im hoping the glow up is good whenever that does happen, i know you have a lot on your plate

and even if it doesnt happen, i still think it was always a little underrated for the time

[steel gorge]

ye i always intended the harpist to be a side character, as in u might see him 1/4 times u go to rend or dine, but then pples always said that they barely see it

[little spire]

i more so have an issue with how easy it is to decompile its ai in your head
as in like, how easy it is to study it on a technical aspect, without actually reading code

[steel gorge]

ye its a simple character

[little spire]

and when you try to make it more dangerous, its kinda ehhh

but i have always really enjoyed its config

[steel gorge]

yea he wasnt supposed to be that dangerous

[steel gorge]

noice

[upbeat lynx]

I personally love the harpist and have kept it around for a while
Always fit in well on mansions, fills that same kinda niche a nutcracker does by being an any you can either avoid or purposefully engage with to try and be greedy for something

[quartz heron]

I really wish this had a few more failsafe spawn positions. I am trying to implement it on Desolation (which has an exterior main entrance and fire exits that all have terrain very close to them on either side so vile cannot spawn outside) combined with the awesome new flesh interior (has fleshy walls surrounding both main entrance and all its fire exits, so vile cannot spawn inside either).

Vile vending machine thematically works so perfectly for this moon and respective interior though 😦
Is it out of the question for this mod to get an update sometime in the future where, if there's no reasonable door spots to spawn, the vile vending machine will attempt to spawn inside a few feet away from the main entrance facing its doors?

or wait... does vile vending machine even have a textured backside? if not, perhaps said final failsafe would require that he spawn facing the interior main entrance doors, then just backs up until he is against a physical obstruction, then spawns?

[tiny hare]

wouldn't the cans go flying into the ravines on desolation

[quartz heron]

I don't think the cans shoot out quite that far but that's a possibility, and if it were, I'd simply make vile vending machine only spawn inside, then you only gotta feel around in those pools of blood lol

[lunar parcel]

is this mod compatible with v70?

[steel gorge]

uhhhh probably not, it also has a few bugs anyway. I'm currently busy working on the Wax Soldier and Aloe improvements + bugfixes (for this delicious mod: #1276345828671225946 ). When I have more time Ill fix the bugs in this mod and add a tool so people can easily add their own custom vending machine placements

[lunar parcel]

WAIT THAT FRICKING THAT SOLDIER IS REAL I THOUGHT WAS JUST GONNA STAY A THING THAT POPS UP WHEN I PUT A W IN IMPERIUM ENEMY SEARCH BAR 😭

also oooh okay that tool seems really interesting ngl

[steel gorge]

ye the tool is gonna be made for the wax soldier, so u can create custom guard posts (cuz the wax soldier guards a certain area), and then ill jus copy it and use it for the vending machine too

[lunar parcel]

oh alright thats makes sense

[harsh grove]

You know me I'm not super savvy when it comes to this, but wouldn't checking for the closest AI node to the Main entrance scan node work in most cases? I think it checks for the teleport spots or smth right now right?

Anyway I am extremely thankful for all your contributions to Biodiversity, makes me feel bad that I'm keeping you from your other mods though!!

[steel gorge]

nah cuz if it went on an AI node, then it would block the pathway and also look out of place (as in cuz the vending machine is supposed to be up against a wall or somethin)

the thing for the dynamic spawning is overcomplicated but still not enough to handle alot of edge cases, hence why u will commonly see the vending machine in some weird ass places, especially on modded maps

[steel gorge]

If i didnt like working on biodiversity stuff, I wouldve left lol ❤️

[harsh grove]

Awww gay ❤️

[steel gorge]

lol

[harsh grove]

Makes sense yeah

[tiny hare]

usually there's never an ai node next to the main entrance

[harsh grove]

ye ik

[weak light]

I dont think this works at all with v73, though I know its not like the biggest priority for the dev, so no pressure, I just wanted to add this here for future reference

[lunar parcel]

I'm starting to think v73 was more vile than the vending machine

[dawn shale]

Indeed. Everytime the vending machine spawns it doesnt do anything

[weak light]

i pray someone forks this mod and hopefully brings it up to date some day (with modders permission). Such a peak enemy

[steel gorge]

Ill update the mod later to use the new netcode n whatevers, but the bugs that were in the previous versions are still there

[weak light]

Any progress on the update,no pressure of course, just curious

[steel gorge]

ye im just having issues with netcode patcher atm, but once I get that fixed i'll update the mod

[wheat night]

This still alive?

[lunar parcel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/batman-lonely-1

[ripe crescent]

I think I miss my Vile Vending Machine...

[wheat night]

I miss him as well

[lunar parcel]

it’s pretty vile how the vending machine has been treated

i don’t want him to. r a relic of the past

[wheat night]

Anyone willing to revive this man?

[steel gorge]

sry im busy with uni work at the moment, but in the summer ill fix him