Imperium

[urban elbow]

hum, idk

this one in particular is very strange and also not that important since imperium is just there for testing

[tropic jackal]

All good, just figured I might as well ask!

I was going to leave imperium on for host if possible for the first runs of my modpack with my friends incase there's issues, but I hadn't even had a chance to learn it because it wasn't running

[violet stratus]

there is a "fix" for having all 3 on though if you wanted. you have to ENABLE "Skip player spawn" in animations of imperium.

[distant stag]

huh weird

I'll have a look tomorrow

yeah this is a weird issue with the order of initialization of stuff, I thought I fixed it but I guess there is still another case, I'll try to fix that, thx

[urban elbow]

disable*

[distant stag]

wait I thought you said it would be enable

[urban elbow]

hm no?

[urban elbow]

ah

oops

[distant stag]

so having all the settings disabled INCLUDING player spawn fixes it?

that would make at least a bit more sense

[urban elbow]

WAIT

no

[violet stratus]

well, enable the option to disable it

[urban elbow]

wtf did i said

[distant stag]

im confused xD

[violet stratus]

you want this

[urban elbow]

what

i thought it was the other way around

[violet stratus]

this skips the spawn animation

do you have it the other way....?

and it works for you?

[urban elbow]

ahhhh no

im confused

sorry

[violet stratus]

[urban elbow]

making it to TRUE fix the issue, but having it to true makes the effect "disable spawn animation"

i mixed up "disable"

[violet stratus]

ye

[urban elbow]

so you were right, you said ENABLE spawn skip animation, which means the spawn animation is now DISABLED lol

😭 🤣 my bad

[distant stag]

lmao communication

alright but this is weird af, having imperium breaks it and enabling this specific setting fixes it again

[urban elbow]

yeah idk whats going on

• zaggy said that mono mod is trolling me

[distant stag]

yeah in preferences

but its currently broken so you have to restart the game for it to take effect

[violet stratus]

any word on fixing this?

whoever hosts ends up freezing for a few seconds every minute

when this pops up

[pseudo sable]

would be good to compare the il it generates in the working scenario to the non working, but I'm not sure how 0 for both IDs would work

[urban elbow]

ah i see

[distant stag]

What's the context here? There have to be quite a large amount of objects here for this to take this insanely long to refresh

[violet stratus]

the spider web lag

using imperium to make up for LLLs issues, at the cost of host having laggy game

[distant stag]

How many spider webs are there?

[violet stratus]

only one spider spawns and it happens

[distant stag]

Very weird

Does this happen consistently?

[violet stratus]

and it lags a bit when it spawns new enemies too but thats more tolerable

consistently with spiders yes

[distant stag]

Do you have a modpack code I could try?

[violet stratus]

0194e348-8cca-9ab7-1956-cc75d7a01b5e

this guy was also having it a while back

i JUST landed on the moon, and its already causing the issue

very odd

i killed the spider with imperium and the freezing mostly stopped.

[urban elbow]

Wait no it will not work I'm printing this il when the code is loading for the first time

[pseudo sable]

hmm? not sure what you mean

the IDs should exist if the IL exists as far as I'm aware

[urban elbow]

When the mod is loading in awake that's where I printed the il code

[pseudo sable]

I'm not sure how that means it won't work, you saw the instructions where it was using the reference bag, so the load constants that you need to compare are there

just run it in a profile where it functions correctly and print the IL, then run it in a profile where it breaks and print the IL

my theory is that they would somehow differ, since an id of 0 for both calls doesn't make a lot of sense to me

[urban elbow]

but the settings that make this work can be changed mid game with imperium UI, changing the boolean and restarting the lobby is enough for the error to disappear
That means the profile is the same in the 2 cases

imo this will not change anything, but maybe i misunderstood something

[pseudo sable]

you might be right, but there is a way to make changing the profile result in a difference

definitely seems like it should be something else, but I would like to see what the IL is like in the working case too

regardless though, the solution may just be to replace it with a call opcode

it's just an interesting puzzle

[urban elbow]

hmmm i didnt consider that, ill test

[torn bough]

giosuel has been in lethal so much rcently 1.0 is near..... jk

[distant stag]

[distant stag]

random question, do you not have lethal lib installed?

lethal lib has a function to add IL pointers to stack traces, I thought about adding it to Imperium but I didn't actually end up doing it

If you are using Imperium again and have some spare time, mind trying to reproduce the error with lethal lib installed so I can see where exactly this error originates?

the function that caused the exception is executed when you press Escape or Right Mouse Button, O is just to activate the tape measure itself

nvm its also executed on open

[pseudo sable]

huh, I mean there's a separate mod for that, I didn't know LethalLib also did that

I didn't think I had it enabled in that run, though, no

neither LethalLib nor the other option

best I can do is keep using Imperium while I test some pathfinding patches, though, since I don't know what all I did that could have resulted in that error starting to print repeatedly

[distant stag]

hmm interesting, how is that mod called?

[bitter compass]

what would possibly cause the map to zoom in like that? (assuming this is an imperium thing)

keep in mind im doing a lot of fucky stuff like... setting the isPlayerDead = true, parenting the player to various places, basically very fucky ucky

but on the player's end that this stuff is happening to, this map is flickering in and out

[distant stag]

wait whats the problem here?

[bitter compass]

i was doing something and then that map started popping up into the screen and flickering

[urban elbow]

Ok so, here is what i found
When the mod is loading the first time, the IL code is printed 2 times
The first print is

ILContext: System.Void DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>?1389685582::GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
......
IL_035e: call UnityEngine.Vector2 UnityEngine.Vector2::get_zero()
IL_0363: stfld UnityEngine.Vector2 GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::moveInputVector
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 0
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Action`1<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call System.Void MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Action`1<T1>)
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 0
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Func`2<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call TResult MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Func`2<T1,TResult>)

the second one is

ILContext: System.Void DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>?213343334::GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
......
IL_0369: call UnityEngine.Vector2 UnityEngine.Vector2::get_zero()
IL_036e: stfld UnityEngine.Vector2 GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::moveInputVector
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 2
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Action`1<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call System.Void MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Action`1<T1>)
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 1
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Func`2<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call TResult MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Func`2<T1,TResult>)

idk why its printed 2 times

then, when i load the save and spawn, the error appears because we are in the non working case, and the IL is printed again for some reasons just before the error

IL_036f: call UnityEngine.Vector2 UnityEngine.Vector2::get_zero()
IL_0374: stfld UnityEngine.Vector2 GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::moveInputVector
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 4
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Action`1<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call System.Void MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Action`1<T1>)
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 2
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Func`2<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call TResult MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Func`2<T1,TResult>)

now im going to send the same things but in the working case

sorry for the big messsages lol

when there is no error, when the mod is loading the first time, 1 st print

IL_035e: call UnityEngine.Vector2 UnityEngine.Vector2::get_zero()
IL_0363: stfld UnityEngine.Vector2 GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::moveInputVector
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 0
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Action`1<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call System.Void MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Action`1<T1>)
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 0
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Func`2<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call TResult MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Func`2<T1,TResult>)

second one

IL_0369: call UnityEngine.Vector2 UnityEngine.Vector2::get_zero()
IL_036e: stfld UnityEngine.Vector2 GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::moveInputVector
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 2
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Action`1<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call System.Void MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Action`1<T1>)
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 1
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Func`2<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call TResult MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Func`2<T1,TResult>)

and finally, when i load the save and spawn, still in the working case

IL_036f: call UnityEngine.Vector2 UnityEngine.Vector2::get_zero()
IL_0374: stfld UnityEngine.Vector2 GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::moveInputVector
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 4
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Action`1<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call System.Void MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Action`1<T1>)
IL_0000: ldarg.0
IL_0000: ldc.i4 2
IL_0000: call T MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/InnerBag`1<System.Func`2<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>>::Get(System.Int32)
IL_0000: call TResult MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers::Invoke<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,System.Single>(T1,MonoMod.Cil.RuntimeILReferenceBag/FastDelegateInvokers/Func`2<T1,TResult>)

if im not mistaken it's the same for the working and the non working cases

@pseudo sable let me know if you know something for that, and again sorry for the spam

[pseudo sable]

this is the one I was thinking of: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiFFoZ/BepInEx_MonoMod_Debug_Patcher/

[pseudo sable]

hmm, I see, so the initial version of the IL it generates doesn't have it but all the rest do, interesting

in theory then some index within the bag is being ruined at some point

[distant stag]

hmm interesting, maybe I should make this a hard dependency of Imperium to make my life easier

[urban elbow]

ah so its even worse

[pseudo sable]

oh boy lol

well it might be a patcher, not sure

[bitter compass]

according to zaggy, imperium doesnt spawn enemies using the vanilla SpawnEnemyGameObject function, so it causes a desync between clients and host in RoundManager.Instance.spawnedEnemies list.
whenever you get to updating imperium, can ya add the enemy to that list for the server when you spawn the enemy/just use that function for spawning the enemy @distant stag

[distant stag]

Does this only need to happen on the server?

[bitter compass]

yes

clients fill that field in on the enemy's Start from what im told

but not the host

[distant stag]

what is this list even used for?

[bitter compass]

stores list of enemies that are currently alive

it explains a lot of what im hearing in my mod in terms of desyncs since i use that list, dunno what vanilla uses the list for

[distant stag]

from what I can see from a quick search, it just uses it for the "[Near Activity Detected]" and something with manticoils

[bitter compass]

would help me a lot to fix too since i cant just do findobjectsoftype everytime i wanna use the list of enemies

[distant stag]

hmm, well if it doesn't have any other weird side effects

[feral sentinel]

mainly this yeah

[pseudo sable]

it's very convenient for certain optimizations as well

is [Enemy] is much faster than FindObjectsOfType<[Enemy]>

[covert bolt]

Is it possibile to set next moon interior in this mod?

[distant stag]

not currently, I did implement this feature though and it will be shipped with the next release

[mighty swallow]

How did you go about doing that out of curiousity

[distant stag]

pretty straight-forward solution, I just hot-swap the map size and the dungeon flow list before the function executes

could probably do it with transpilers but eh, I haven't really looked into how to get the value from Imperium settings within a transpiler

[covert bolt]

@distant stag when can we expect next update?

[distant stag]

uhh I may be able to finish it this week but I am working on a video guide with a friend and since its version 1.0, I wanna release it together with the video

[covert bolt]

okay. Thx for the anserw

[mighty swallow]

your only soft dependent on LLL right

[distant stag]

I don't think I even am

[mighty swallow]

oh fair

if you ever wanna be nitpicky LLL has prettier display names for interiors 😛

[distant stag]

oh interesting, I just did this

I guess you're doing something similar

[mighty swallow]

i register nicer names for the vanilla stuff yeah but lll has a specific display name field custom authors use

for stuff like the simulate command and etc.

[distant stag]

Yeah fair enough

[austere dagger]

how do you change freecam fov?

[balmy scroll]

Left and right arrow keys

[covert bolt]

How is it going? Can we expect update before the end of the month?

[distant stag]

Not sure yet, the new semester started and I got a load of work to do again
Might be delayed to the beginning March, idk yet

[covert bolt]

ok

[distant stag]

i thought about this and it might be a good soft dependency, is this accessible in your API?

[feral sentinel]

btw regarding the whole mold spore thing

i found out the moldspore layer used to be called "RoomLight" (or maybe "WallLight" i dont remember)

back in v9

i just think zeekerss replaced it since it wasn't used for anything and unity hard limits you to 32 layers

but that's why lights erroneously show up in imperium as mold spores

[distant stag]

yeah I guess that makes sense

well I removed support in v1.0 so we no longer have to deal with that

[novel finch]

Is there a way to force an imperium window to the center of the screen if i've lost it offscreen

this happens pretty frequently because I test mods with multiple instances open on the same workspace so their sizes change a lot

[distant stag]

there currently is no way to do this and the UI reset button seems to be bugged
you could reset the config yourself in gale/r2 and restart the game
I did implement a fix for both these problems in the v1.0 release which will be published sometime soon

[novel finch]

Great to hear

I'll just manually move the recttransform with UE in the meantime lol

[distant stag]

haha well thats also an option

[novel finch]

As in, removing support for vain shrouds (which is what i can only assume mold spores are)?

[distant stag]

correct, you will no longer be able to spawn them or interact with them via object explorer

[pseudo sable]

new random idea, would be nice to have a way to transform maneaters without being next to them

could fit next to the Jester stuff, but might be nice to have a special button in object explorer instead or somethin

[distant stag]

i thought about more stuff like this but I couldn't really come up with a great idea on where to place this functionality

like its difficult to implement it in a generic and modular matter while also keeping it intuitive

adding it next to the jester thing so it applies to all maneaters sounds easy enough but idk if that would be as useful

[pseudo sable]

it's not a bad solution imo, it's just convenient for my current testing that I be able to spawn a maneater and instantly turn it into an adult

anotehr small button in object explorer also seems reasonable, but obviously that makes it a little more cluttered

[distant stag]

well the thing is that the object explorer is implemented in a very generic way, its an infinite list where the 12-15 actual objects are moved around to simulate scrolling, meaning every entry has an internal representation and theres like an engine that replaces labels and click handlers on the fly when scrolling
so if I add a new button, I would need to implement it for all types of objects which would probably be a bit of an overkill

well I don't need to implement it for all types but it would at least need to implement some generic functionality that works for all entities or some mechanic that manually checks if the entity is a maneater and show/hide the button based on that which...ehh I wouldn't really like to do

[pseudo sable]

ahh, I see

that does certainly complicate it

[karmic folio]

Is there a way to rebind X for this thing

X is my drop key, and I don't want to have to relearn muscle memory of using G

[balmy scroll]

all the button's keybinds can be changedd

[karmic folio]

How do u do this

[balmy scroll]

it uses inpututils so the normal keybind menu in the in-game settings

[karmic folio]

Ah okay

Thank you

[bitter compass]

is there a way to regenerate imperium's navmesh

it kinda assumes that navmesh cant move

[distant stag]

it regenerates whenever the scene is loaded / unloaded

when does the navmesh even change during the round?

you could call something like Imperium.Core.Visualization.NavMeshVisualizer.OnRefresh(true)

to force it to reload

[untold jay]

isn't mods like wider ship regenerate navmesh?

[bitter compass]

cruiser can move it around, (mineshaft elevator also moves it i believe)

the bigger ship mods regen navmesh too

i also move navmesh lol

[distant stag]

interesting, when does the cruiser move it? i haven't seen anything like that in the code

[bitter compass]

moves via parenting

[distant stag]

but then again, I am not super familiar with how it workes at runtime

[bitter compass]

the NavMeshSurface is just parented into the inside of the cruiser

so it moves with the cruiser

[distant stag]

ohh interesting

[bitter compass]

yeah it's a clever way of moving navmesh, probably?

[distant stag]

idk it doesn't sound like its meant to be used like that

but again, idk

[distant stag]

well, this should do it, I could also expose this in the API in a later release

[bitter compass]

yee i was just wondering if there was a button for it, this works too

[burnt cradle]

I have a suggestion Imperium Daddy-

hold up-

okay but fr

I have a suggestion and I dunno if its possible but

being able to have an option to stop all monster's motion and to continue motion

basically a "freeze all monsters" option

[distant stag]

It's already possible to freeze entities individually in the object explorer, would a button to freeze everything add a lot of value?

[tight wharf]

yes

[silent crypt]

hey, running into a problem that I only see whenever I activate Imperium, and it's that I get this log as the game hangs and shuts off before I enter the lobby. without Imperium, I can get in no problem, but with it on I just get this error ad infinitum. it's not a big deal, but I kinda wanna be able to test things out and stuff in god mode. \o/

code: 01958d96-4f12-f61c-d4b7-adf224d1c646
logs attached

[burnt cradle]

I mean I think so

But I did not know there was already a freeze option

my bad

[urban elbow]

If you have imperium default config options, + better spray paint installed + premium scraps installed then the game will crash upon joining the ship

[silent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

just too taxing to the game?

[urban elbow]

I still have no idea why this happen but it's a known issue for a while now

If I remember correctly you can enable player spawn animation skip in imperium config, then the problem is fixed

[silent crypt]

how very odd, but it works now haha

thank you very much \o

[lofty fjord]

anyway to rotate items before spawning them in ?
Or save a location for a entity that I can use to reset its pos and rotation

[violet stratus]

Player spawn skip bug strikes again
any progress on its fix?

[urban elbow]

we searched to fix the problem with giosuel and zaggy but didn't find a way

[scenic wagon]

is there anything in imperium to change this to absolute position @distant stag

so that like

0, 0, 0 isnt relative to the ship or whatever

but actual unity coordinates

[feral sentinel]

it's not absolute position?

[scenic wagon]

no

[feral sentinel]

what is it local to?

[scenic wagon]

idk, but when i input those coordinates in editor, its like, way out of bounds

and its just the starting point of the ship during the landing animation

[feral sentinel]

i will have a look

i have a hunch but im not 100%

[scenic wagon]

if you go to 0,0,0 it puts you to the right of the ship

like here

but 0,0,0 is here on artifice

maybe the coordinates are the players position in sample scene relay??

[distant stag]

I am pretty sure this is 0,0,0

[scenic wagon]

its not

[distant stag]

its always next to the ship as the ship never really moves

[scenic wagon]

its not tho

you can open artifice in editor rn

[distant stag]

how do you know this thing is 0,0,0

[scenic wagon]

and put an empty object at 0, 0, 0

because i put it there ?

i typed 0,0,0

[distant stag]

well it might be that the scene is moved at runtime or something

if you do this at runtime it will be next to the ship

[scenic wagon]

oh

[distant stag]

imperium generally sets the absolute position of any object it moves

[scenic wagon]

actually

i think i know what it is

the entire environment heirarchy on artifice is offset

so if you add anything at 0,0,0 inside of that it will also be offset

[distant stag]

yeah that would make sense

[scenic wagon]

and the reverb trigger group position is even more offset so thats why 0,0,0 put my object there

alr i see

mb then

ye

thats actual 0,0,0

[feral sentinel]

this is global 0,0,0 yeah

although i guess you came to that conclusion already

[covert bolt]

Is update coming this month?

[distant stag]

Idk yet, I've got loads of irl stuff to do lately

[brittle citrus]

why does it say an item is gonna spawn

[urban elbow]

Maneater

[brittle citrus]

why doesnt it say maneater than

[distant stag]

thats how the game codes it

its actually called like that internally

[bitter compass]

yeah it's kinda funny

[brittle citrus]

weird lol

i spawned a large axle and a baby came out instead

gotta love this game

[hollow granite]

Yeah you’ve got large axle: real and large axle: demon child

[austere dagger]

is there a way to hide the time player hud with imperium?

nevermind got it

[feral sentinel]

you can toggle it easy with the Z key

[brittle citrus]

why did an old bird i spawn with imperium become TINY

very helpful

[brittle citrus]

[torn bough]

@distant stag working on the imperium update be like

[fallow hare]

The github action logs have expired but I assume the build actions are also erroring out trying to include the assets from unity.

[distant stag]

are you running this locally? you need to include have the bundle for it to work

I assume its not in the repository then

[fallow hare]

It is not in the repository

[distant stag]

huh its funny, I guess I excluded it in the .gitignore idk why

[fallow hare]

Maybe size?

Not sure

[distant stag]

its only 1.5 mb large

[fallow hare]

oh

[distant stag]

well I do have a bundle but I was working on the 1.0 release so it won't work with the current prod build

you might be able to extract it from the imperium assembly though, its an embedded resource

just place it in the Imperium/resources/assets/ folder and it should work fine

[fallow hare]

Yeah, that allows it to build. I inverted the CI conditions locally to see what was blocking the build actions from completing.

[distant stag]

alright so thats one problem solved

I'll just have to remove it from the gitignore

[lofty bobcat]

Is there a way to disable oracle notifications?

[distant stag]

Yeah in preferences but you have to restart the game, this is a bug that will be fixed in the next update

[lofty bobcat]

Thanks

[manic ember]

could we get a button, that takes all grabbable objects within the ship area, and drops them at your feet, on the ground, or even floating?

i just found a bug, that, occurs, due to items being in a bad place, i fixed it by using imperium to pick up and move everything in the ship to a normal location.. lmao... all 100 items.

i know its not for imperium to be fixing bugs during game play, just thought a button like that would be handy xD

edit: a mod that used to do this already.. no clue if it works anymore, but could lead to easy implementation 😄
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/bozzobrain/ShipMaid/

[torn bough]

[warm mortar]

omg its the vencord creature

[distant stag]

"creature" 💀

[warm mortar]

the organism

[torn bough]

lol

[urban elbow]

Spawning items with F2 no longer works in v70 due to a change in FallToGround()

[distant stag]

Uhh, I don't think imperium directly used that function, but I am not sure

I am working on a release rn so I'll try it later

[distant stag]

Imperium v1.0.0 - The Release

We've come a long way since the release of the first Imperium prototype in early April 2024 to where we are today. Imperium was my first modding project for any game and it was just meant to be a fun little tool to explore the wonderful mechanics of this amazing game.

But thanks to the continuous support from so many of you loyal employees, mod devs and content creators, which were eagerly providing feedback and feature ideas, I was able to expand this initial idea into this fully fledged debugging swiss-army knife for Lethal Company!

I think Imperium is now finally in a stable state where most of the community's and my ideas are implemented and the majority of the P1 and P2 bugs are resolved. And while this definitely isn't the end of Imperium support, I do plan on moving on to different modding / game dev projects as well as Imperium for R.E.P.O in the future.

~The Emperor, gio

The Imperium release is mostly aimed at fixing all the remaining P1 and P2 bugs as well as implementing the last few features that I had on my list for such a long time now, such as the time slider and the dungeon flow override. I also spent some time polishing the UI and improving the overall usability of Imperium. This includes interface animations and transitions, smoother loading as well as improved global tooltips.

General Changes

• Removed support for vain shrouds since they are no longer used in the base game.
• Rewrote Quickload logic and cleaned up preferences.
• Player untargetability / invisiblity is now communicated to all clients to prevent de-sync.
• Made it so spawned entities are added to the game's spawned enemy list.

Added Stuff

• Added a collider visualizer for objects on the LineOfSight layer.
• Added and updated various tooltips to increase the overall UI usability.
• Added a slam type toggle for spike traps in the object explorer.

Bug Fixes

• Moved all network logging to the DEBUG level to decrease log volume.
• Fixed an issue where faulty UI config would break the Imperium startup sequence.
• Made it so entities without prefabs are not showing up in the spawn menu.
• Made it so the map camera's near and far clip can't overlap anymore.
• Fixed notification settings not applying without restarting.
• Fixed a bug that caused the UI reload button to not work.
• Removed the Optimize Logs settings and removed log deletions.
• Fixed a bug that prevented local objects from being able to be deleted.
• Fixed a bug that made it very glitchy to enter coordinates in the teleport window.

API Changes

• Removed all vain shroud related endpoints.

QoL Improvements

• Improved tooltip experience with new smooth transitions and delays.
• Made it so tooltips can no longer extend past the screen.
• Various UI layout fixes and adjustments to improve usability.
• Made UI sounds more consistent and toggleable.
• Increased shown items in spawn UI from 6 to 8.
• Made it so windows won't disappear when resizing the game window.
• Fixed a bug where changing the FoV would result in weird camera behaviour.
• Made it so teleport coordinates will automatically update if the player teleports out-of-bounds.
• Removed the min and max constraints on teleport coordinates.
• Added a soft dependency for LLL to retrieve custom dungeon flow display names.
• Made it so the hover tooltip is disabled when the HUD is hidden.

Compatibility

This version is compatible with the v70 update of Lethal Company.

[bitter compass]

You okay with me finding more things that are broken?

[distant stag]

feel free to add an issue on github

[bitter compass]

Bet

[distant stag]

I will still be updating this, though my main focus will be on REPO

[bitter compass]

this is probably my favourite fix though fr

i can finally spawn enemies and test them properly lol

buht yeah i made an issue in the repo for the only thing that really ever bothers me from imperium anymore

[bitter compass]

oh also i think this is imperium lol

it didnt spam it al ot, just this much, but yea

oh lol its whenever i press Shift

[distant stag]

yeah this is a known issue, forgot to fix it

this isnt a real problem, just unnecessary logs

[bitter compass]

okie

[plucky granite]

stop pressing shift smh..

[tight wharf]

heyyy, imperium is not working - only related thing i could find is this log:

[bitter compass]

are you on v70 and latest version of imperium?

[tight wharf]

yes and yes

v70 and v1.0.0

[plucky granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-kujo-yes-jojo-distorted-anime-gif-17239598

[bitter compass]

uh ill relaunch the game rq but it was working for me

works for me

[tight wharf]

oh no

it works on a fresh profile 💀

i'll dig deeper

[distant stag]

yeah I think this might be some other mod's problem

they haven't re-compiled for v70 or something

Imperium

[sand thunder]

i've noticed that when you have imperium disabled for all the non host people and you enable it in between it just bugs out and the other cant open the menu anymore with F1 while all the other shortcuts work

[urban elbow]

I think i found a new issue in v70 with the latest imperium version
When pressing W to hide the hud it seems now that imperium will also hide the player hand interaction icon like this one
Pressing W again will un-hide the HUD as well as the hand icons
But if a manual call to HUDManager.Instance.HideHUD(false) is made instead of pressing W, the hud will be visible again but not the hand icons, which shouldn't be the case

[distant stag]

huh weird

this should be the function imperium uses I thik

[urban elbow]

Oops i forgot i was on azerty keyboard lol, it's the Z key not W but anyway

[feral sentinel]

i found another bug that seems to be imperium

when you sprint, there's a subtle zoom-out effect (FoV increases from 66 to 68)

in vanilla the change is gradual but it's instantaneous with imperium

toggling off imperium seems to fix the problem so it seems the culprit

i havent checked if it happens with just a fresh profile + imperium though, so maybe i need to double check

[urban elbow]

I noticed the same

[brazen pike]

It may not be the same issue that you are facing, but the latest version of Imperium doesn't work in a fresh profile with 47 Chronos by @ionic moth installed. The stack trace looks like this:

[ionic moth]

Not sure if it has been fixed yet but Chronos is using JLL as a dependency, which was bugging out the game iirc

[brazen pike]

Except the moment I disable Chronos, Imperium works fine again. Even with JLL still enabled

Here's the full log and a code for a minimal pack with just the two mods and their dependencies.
Code: 01973263-fcfe-69c1-4ba1-d5ccbef587ad
Log:

(ignore the SoftMasking exceptions)

[ionic moth]

I'm guessing its my anomaly code bugging out then, I'll have a look

[bitter compass]

Soft masking exceptions will break a lot of your game

If its spamming you need to install a mod like SoftMaskKiller

Otherwise you'll probably crash or a lot of stuff like UI will break

[brazen pike]

My main pack has SoftMaskKiller installed and still has this problem until I disable Chronos

Let me add it to the minimal pack and try again

Nope, Imperium still falls apart unless Chronos is disabled

[distant temple]

Not sure if it's just me but I was using imperium on my modpack at V70 and it worked great! But for some reason when V71 came out it immediately broke it (I don't know if it's maybe a mod conflict or something with V71 messed with it.)

[urban elbow]

Probably a conflict with another mod
People reported issues with the 1.0.0 version but that's it, it works great besides that

[nova flower]

HarvestMoons has been breaking imperium rn

so it's probably that

[sand thunder]

is it possible to rotate turrets when spawning them in with imperium?

[solemn bloom]

Hello, does anyone know how to activate meteor shower? Haven't found anything for that in the GUI.

[burnt cradle]

How do I turn off this again so its just the camera?

Nevermind got it! it was L

I took a big L there by not remembering haha

[distant stag]

uhh have you tried restarting game game?

[solemn bloom]

I'm not sure what do you mean by game game, I'm testing a mod that use meteors and can't find how to activate a meteor shower within the Imperium graphic interface. I've used the mod to test many other thing's just not meteors.

[distant stag]

sorry, I replied to the wrong message

[plucky granite]

[Error : Unity Log] Coroutine couldn't be started because the the game object 'tooltip(Clone)' is inactive!

Dunno whats spamming it exactly, its spammed randomly. Only encountered it when I had Imperium on, not a big issue tho

[distant stag]

yeah this is not really a problem, just log spams

it will be fixed in the next release

[errant kestrel]

Imperium is kinda just fun to mess around in like just spawning in an army of nutcrackers is already fun

[torn bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156322773682114603/1350284128460738751/the_army_marches_ever_closer.gif

[sand thunder]

i realy wish we could have a mod of this minimap for the terminal instead looks so good

[distant stag]

thanks! yeah, I thought about extracextracting the mod before

its just a bit of a logistical problem

[manic ember]

dont know if this is a mod issue or what, just thought id report it.. was testing some buggy moons for fixing my mod so my mod doesnt run on those moons.. and this occured every time i loaded a lobby... "failure to start imperium, shutting down" or similar, with this error.

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Imperium.Imperium.DisableImperium () (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_0015)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetworking.OnAuthenticateResponse () (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_0068)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetEvent.<.ctor>b__8_1 () (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_000A)
LethalNetworkAPI.LNetworkEvent.InvokeOnClientReceived () (at ./Public/LNetworkEvent.cs:146)
LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.UnnamedMessageHandler.HandleMessage (System.UInt64 clientId, System.String messageID, LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.EMessageType messageType, System.Object messageData, System.UInt64[] targetClients) (at ./Internal/UnnamedMessageHandler.cs:264)
LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.UnnamedMessageHandler.SendMessageToClients (LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.MessageData messageData, System.UInt64[] clientGuidArray, System.Boolean deprecatedMessage) (at ./Internal/UnnamedMessageHandler.cs:140)
LethalNetworkAPI.LNetworkEvent.InvokeClients (System.UInt64[] clientGuidArray) (at ./Public/LNetworkEvent.cs:205)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetEvent.DispatchToClients (System.UInt64[] clientIds) (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_0044)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetworking.OnAuthenticateRequest (System.UInt64 clientId) (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_0003)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetEvent.<.ctor>b__8_0 (System.UInt64 clientId) (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_0023)
LethalNetworkAPI.LNetworkEvent.InvokeOnServerReceived (System.UInt64 clientId) (at ./Public/LNetworkEvent.cs:143)
LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.UnnamedMessageHandler.HandleMessage (System.UInt64 clientId, System.String messageID, LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.EMessageType messageType, System.Object messageData, System.UInt64[] targetClients) (at ./Internal/UnnamedMessageHandler.cs:267)
LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.UnnamedMessageHandler.SendMessageToServer (LethalNetworkAPI.Internal.MessageData messageData, System.Boolean deprecatedMessage) (at ./Internal/UnnamedMessageHandler.cs:193)
LethalNetworkAPI.LNetworkEvent.InvokeServer () (at ./Public/LNetworkEvent.cs:247)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetEvent.DispatchToServer () (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_001F)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetworking+<waitForImperiumAccess>d__24.MoveNext () (at <57152791a2bf48a48eb154d051555c3f>:IL_001E)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
Imperium.Netcode.ImpNetworking:RequestImperiumAccess()
Imperium.Patches.Objects.PreloadPatches:ConnectClientToPlayerObjectPatch(PlayerControllerB)
GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB:DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::ConnectClientToPlayerObject>(PlayerControllerB)
GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB:Update()

seems to be something (currently disabled) in this pack causing the error. (only 24 mods)
01979c5e-beca-3917-d06f-1535bdee79f1

will work out which it is an update this and the code shortly.

[manic ember]

it seems the mod(s) causing imperium to fail to load is "HarvestMoons" and "WinterLodge" or one of their dependencies.

[distant stag]

uhh I think there should be another exception

like a block log before that

this is just an exception that happens in the disable function after it has already failed

funny enough

[manic ember]

there was no error i saw., let me readd one of those mods and send you the full log, my bad.

oh, wasnt an ERROR, you have it set as a MESSAGE, explains why i didnt pay attention to it before (i look out for red messages when things go bad :P)

[distant stag]

could you re-add lethallib?

lethallib adds pointers to the strack traces so I can more easily debug this

I think they were present in the first log you sent

[manic ember]

umm, re-add? i didnt remove it.

[distant stag]

from what I can tell one of these mods adds a SpawnableOutsideObject but does not specify a prefab?

[manic ember]

oh it disabled because i disabled somethign else.

here is with lethal lib re-enabled (winterlodge is enabled, not the harvestmoons)

[distant stag]

yeah, I think an outside object is missing a prefab

[manic ember]

ah, well, i dont intend to use that moon anyway, was just trying to see why masked bug out on those moons x.x maybe thats why

[distant stag]

I can add a check but I probably won't push a new release immediately

you can try with this if you want

[manic ember]

its no worries, i already added in a basic check for my next update to basically go "if its not a normal MaskedPlayerEnemy" then throws a warning/error based off what it is and disables my mod.

ill give it a go

here is with harvest moons, not winter lodge (incase a diff issue)

will try the DLL now.

^ that one seems to error on harvest moons off rip, so, harvest moons just looks borked imho

with the updated dll imperium loads fine with both harvest moons and winter lodge, thanks ❤️

[distant stag]

[worn spoke]

It seems like I can't spawn or see Vain shrouds in Imperium object explorer with YesFox

I can see kidnapper fox but it won't let me spawn it without vains

[distant stag]

yeah support for vain shrouds has been removed from Imperium as of v1.0

if you really wanted you'd have to use an older version of Imperium

[mighty swallow]

@distant stag congrats on the 1.0 btw! Came in here to ask, do you reference LLL specifically anywhere?

[distant stag]

Cheers! Glad to be able to finally release it!

https://github.com/giosuel/imperium/blob/5b19ee983dae76f051a72fa2e537b9d6f40d26bd/Imperium/src/Integration/LethalLevelLoaderIntegration.cs#L10
I have this, but its just a soft dependency

but funny enough its not implemented

[mighty swallow]

😭

[distant stag]

why do you ask? xD

[mighty swallow]

Doing some refactors on LLL and just vibe checking what I may be able to get away with messing with and what i can't 😄

[distant stag]

ah, I see I see

yeah nothing to break here

btw, are you also active in the REPO modding community?

[mighty swallow]

Nah, lurked in the server first week or so but was put off by some of the community members

Why?

[distant stag]

oh okay, just asking

because I mainly moved to that game from LC

modding wise

[mighty swallow]

Ah I see, how's that going

[distant stag]

good, well all I have done so far was porting Imperium (not that it was easy lol)

still quite busy with irl stuff and the bachelors thesis

but i have to say its a lot easier to mod that game since the code is actually structured

well for me at least, adding custom content is a bigger pain actually

[mighty swallow]

Yeah I skimmed the code abit and was a little put off by how i'd need to do stuff for an api aswell.

I'm also studying, not to that degree of education but the course is god awful and the hours are shit so takes up most of my time

messing with LLL abit now that im on break because it would be nice to get it in a better place by lethal 1.0

[distant stag]

ah that sucks, what kind of classes are you visiting?

[distant stag]

is lethal 1.0 anywhere close? i didnt really keep up with anything zeekerss posted lately

[mighty swallow]

It's a general IT diploma, bitta networking, bitta policy writing, some general business strategy, bitta programming etc.

I studied 2020-2021 in game design but industry is fucked and i haven't been able to find a job in game design, programming or general stuff like data analyst etc. so doing this to improve my chances

[mighty swallow]

Getting there yeah, based on what he's said the very rough plan I think is

v70 - Mansion update + other stuffs (released)
v80 - Facility update + other stuffs
v90 - Mineshaft update + other stuffs
v100? - Story end/release

[worn spoke]

ah okay, I'll do that.
very grateful that a tool like this exists, thank you!!

[distant stag]

ohh interesting, yeah the industry is struggling rn with all the new AI stuff

i am done this summer and probaly trying to get back to the company I did my internship in

[distant stag]

interesting, well I do still have this unfinished wave clearing / roguelike mod that I haven't released
i just couldn't find the motivation to finish it, even though I spent over 100 hours on it already

also the level editor

[warm mortar]

this looks so fucking sick

I saw someone asking for a roguelike mod like. today

[distant stag]

damn, really? maybe I should go back to working on it 👀

[plucky granite]

I’d love to see it

[vivid stump]

What does this control do and how do I use it?

[burnt cradle]

HUH????

LASSO MAN MOD!!??

[manic ember]

which interior is selected?

[vivid stump]

that one i assume is facility but i've changed that dropdown several times and nothing seems to change? maybe i'm just being thick?

[manic ember]

if your already loaded into the moon, i assume it changes nothing.

if your in orbit, i assume you can as i said, select the interior.. to which then when you land, it will have that interior.

i havent used it myself, so cant verify that, but based off what its called, etc, thats the function i beleive its intended to have.

[vivid stump]

If that's what it does i cannot get it to work for the life of me as that is what i was hoping it would do

[distant stag]

yeah, this is indeed what it should do

[vivid stump]

okay, well either it dosen't work or i am doing something wrong... probably the latter

[manic ember]

maybe a lot would reveal whats happening 😛

[hollow granite]

Would you happen to know why my main entrances don't seem to be recognized as a valid one to teleport to? I can't think of anything that I changed other than maybe prefab-ing them? But I feel like I did that a while ago and it was fine + can't think why that would cause an issue. I technically haven't tried all my moons but 2 I know were fine at one point aren't any more. Not a big problem, just kind of curious.

[distant stag]

huh weird

What moons does it not work on?

[hollow granite]

Ok, so it must be something I did. It works on the public versions of the moons but so far none of the unpublished ones updated for V70 stuff. I'll keep looking into it.

Oh I think it is because I prefabbed them! I changed the name

I guess I must not have ever tried to tp to them since that change. Oops.

I'll change it back but I wonder if looking for the entrance teleport script is better? I think you could get outside fire exits too through this. Theoretically the Entrance Id will be 0 for main and 1 or greater for fire exits.

Kind of on the same topic but I believe you can teleport to inside fire exits. I don't believe you can do inside main. I don't know how the code checks for the fire exits but they also use the EntranceTeleport script. 0 associated with main and 1 a fire exit or assuming they follow vanilla, EntranceTeleportA is a prefab spawned on main with that script and EntranceTeleportB is spawned on the fire exits so you could potentially get both inside main and fire. I don't know if you'd want to do that or if there's demand for it, but I imagine it could be done.

I feel like moon makers are more likely to rename the teleports than interior devs because the moon one on vanilla is split across various objects/parents and the tutorial shows which ones are needed and end up all combined under EntranceTeleportA, which I could see someone renaming. Interior isn't quite this way. The actual teleport is spawned in via a SpawnSyncedObject script which just references the prefab. I kind of doubt someone would bother going in and renaming that prefab but that might just be me.

[hollow granite]

Actually, I could just not have the teleport be the root of the prefab. That'd allow me to rename the prefab to main and fire exit while not renaming the teleport object itself...

[distant stag]

Yeah lmao, you're probably right lol

This is really old code back from when I didn't know what I was doing

I'll look into it for the next update

[hollow granite]

Ok. In the meantime what I did was just make an empty object called MainEntrance be the root of the prefab and then EntranceTeleportA is nested under that and then everything else under that. So I get the nicer name for the prefab and any code looking for the specific name will find it.

Also did the same with fire exit

[distant stag]

Okay yeah that should work

[humble flame]

Oh dear humble father of Imperium..

your spawn is being an asshole

This error appears when trying to load up a lobby, preventing anything from working

yet the "Greetings, Padawan" text still appears, so the mod does in fact load

0197c8ad-64d4-58ec-9135-a908024afc19

I have here the Log, Dependency Strings, and modpack code i'm currently using

and I will try to see what other mod is causing it to get shot dead the second i try to play the game

[humble flame]

nvm it's BCMER
save me

[dense laurel]

☹️
Im prob just stupid but how do I fix this
Are there any mods that dont work with Imperium?

[distant stag]

Probably, do you have any logs?

[dense laurel]

Ill show you later
I know it was in fact one of the mods in that modpack since I just tried a modpack with only imperium and its working so im just gonna play that

[sand thunder]

I think Brutal Company made Imperium to not work

[vivid stump]

if you use brutal company with imperium I've found on first load it wont work, second load it will but will lag, third load works fine, IDK why it just does

[distant stag]

Damn

Any logs?

[normal trench]

Not sure if this is just placebo, but it seems if you disable quota and continually load and unload levels, the loading phase takes longer and longer as time goes on

[distant stag]

Hmmm, interesting XD

Seems like a game problem if I had to take a wild guess, and probably really annoying to debug

[humble flame]

BCMER

and that was 3 days ago

damn

[humble flame]

@distant stag if you want a log for it, the issue is right here

but just using only Imperium and Brutal Company Minus Extra Reborn (+ dependencies) still causes this, so it's a direct incompat

[sleek marten]

hello, how can i revive myself or my friend with imperium?

[worn spoke]

In object explorer you can click on the 'heart with wings' icon on the entry for your player name

[warm mortar]

Shiggy has been rediscovered by Beanie

[hollow granite]

Another finds Shiggy!

[agile lynx]

Never been able to make that work properly. It acts like they are respawned but cannot be killed again. It's like their Playercontroller is disconnected from their pawn or something

[worn spoke]

Interesting, it's always worked well for me

[errant kestrel]

imagine there was an imperium for peak

[distant stag]

imagine

[tribal prawn]

Hi, I have such a problem - I wanted to check my assembly with this mod, but I didn’t even let me in the lobby.
Here are the assembly code and the last logs:
0198161E-406A-20E5-C335-F9A2CD8FB99E
@distant stag

[peak sigil]

what is this

[distant stag]

A WIP mod that I was working on last year

It's like a wave clearing rogue-like game mode for LC

[tribal prawn]

🥺

[digital sparrow]

Submitted a pull request courtesy of @real totem and me that should fix issues with some mods causing Imperium to crash.

[distant stag]

Uhh thanks! I can't really work on it rn as I am on vacation
What was this problem about?

[digital sparrow]

somethig about a key registry error or null exception error basically causing imperium to crash upon loading into a save.

[gusty wing]

'Failed to launch Imperium' message pops up after entering the game. I disabled some mods to figure out which mods cause this issue but can't find since I have about 100 mods. So, I made a new profile and downloaded only Imperium, it worked fine. Here I attach the log.

btw this is my mod pack 105 mods included : 01987271-0762-5367-0164-48691f03843a

[gusty wing]

Figured out why, problem solved

[heady tinsel]

would be really cool if there was a seperate mod that made the minimap replace the monitor cam along with keeping the monitors features

[heady tinsel]

@distant stag as that doable by chance?

[distant stag]

i thought about it, but its just difficult to separate the UI stuff from imperium

i might do it in the future

[heady tinsel]

yay! :)

[sand thunder]

not the first person to request that xd

the map looks so good

[untold echo]

some random interesting discoveries i made while using imperium
the sapsucker has an animation for moving + crouching, im not sure how youd see this happen in vanilla
the sapsucker becomes angry if a cruiser is nearby its nest

[warm mortar]

when under a ceiling like assurance's scaffold probably

[untold echo]

maybe?

to be clear, i mean the combo of walking and crouching at the same time

i have seen it crouch before

it happens as it enters the ship

but not long enough to see the waddle

[hollow granite]

https://tenor.com/view/run-gif-12578901436723796885

2nd clip be like:

[warm mortar]

maybe it could crouch below the vow ship?

[untold echo]

im not even sure the sapsucker can spawn close enough

if its pissed i dont know how it moves while crouching

the sapsuckers spawn location is seed dependant

and it prioritizes choosing a node as far away from the ship as possible

[hollow granite]

Oh that’s why I feel like it is kind of always in the same general spot, or one of a few at least

[manic ember]

I am guessing the crouch + walk combined animation isnt used, pretty sure for masked too there are unused animations in vanilla (could be wrong though, been a while I looked at the vanilla animations)

[untold echo]

it is used

i didnt modify the game to let the animation play

im saying i dont think it can happen ever in the vanilla game

despite the code being set up for it to do so

maybe theres a specific case it can happen but i really cant think of one

[manic ember]

oh i misunderstood, i figured cause this was chatted in imperium, someone was looking at the code for sapsucker and wondering why that animation never is seen xD

[untold echo]

well i found the scenario this actually happens

its probably only specifically for when a sapsucker is crouching under a pumpkin

heres them doing it, still set up, but it can happen naturally

[hollow granite]

Bird

[warm mortar]

had it do this on dreg too yea

[formal maple]

will the imperium ever be updated cuz its so broken on v70?

[untold echo]

afaik its not majorly broken

i only know two issues

but i dont use all of imperiums features

[formal maple]

im kinda getting annoyed how it spams tooltip(clone) errors

[untold echo]

you can disable those

[formal maple]

and its performance got worse like 5x more

[untold echo]

oh wait

those arent notifications nvm

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-catbitcord-cat-cat-meme-cat-explosion-gif-17827142058596640794

[formal maple]

what about the camera that just snaps while starting to sprint

[arctic sentinel]

anyone else crashing when trying to noclip?

doesnt give me any logs when it happens either

it used to work but starting today whenever i press it it just insta crashes

[urban elbow]

If when noclip you mean free cam, then no i dont have any issues with it. Your pack may have an issue

[arctic sentinel]

free cam yeah

[alpine glacier]

Just wanna throw in here... This error is still a thing...

[14:56:17.1767915] [Error  : Unity Log] Exception 'NullReferenceException' thrown from state change monitor 'InputActionState' on 'DiscreteButton:/Keyboard/ctrl'
[14:56:17.1767915] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputActionState.ProcessInteractions (UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputActionState+TriggerState& trigger, System.Int32 interactionStartIndex, System.Int32 interactionCount) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_003E)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputActionState.ProcessControlStateChange (System.Int32 mapIndex, System.Int32 controlIndex, System.Int32 bindingIndex, System.Double time, UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.InputEventPtr eventPtr) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_024D)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputActionState.UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.IInputStateChangeMonitor.NotifyControlStateChanged (UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputControl control, System.Double time, UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.InputEventPtr eventPtr, System.Int64 mapControlAndBindingIndex) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_000E)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputManager.FireStateChangeNotifications (System.Int32 deviceIndex, System.Double internalTime, UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.InputEvent* eventPtr) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_008E)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.<>c__DisplayClass7_0:<set_onUpdate>b__0(NativeInputUpdateType, NativeInputEventBuffer*)
UnityEngineInternal.Input.NativeInputSystem:NotifyUpdate(NativeInputUpdateType, IntPtr)

It throws this error on ctrl and space. Also completely breaks the flight system

[bitter compass]

i think this happens on like non english keyboards lol

[alpine glacier]

Well, shouldn't happen at all imo

A temporary fix is to always re-assign the Toggle Flight Flying Ascend and Flying Descend buttons everytime you're ingame

[bitter compass]

yeah im not saying that it shouldnt be fixed, it's definitely an issue

i struggle reading rodrigo's logs when he has imperium installed...

[alpine glacier]

Since this has been such a longstanding issue, I'll upload a band-aid fix in a few minutes

[alpine glacier]

For anyone that also suffers from this issue:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/ImperiumFix/

Just wait until it synced

[urban elbow]

Is it also possible for you to upload temporary fix for wrong tooltip errors in the console as well as the sprint pov issue, or like any other issues mentionned in this thread since 1.0 released?

[alpine glacier]

I'll have a look, but won't promise anything as I personally haven't run into these issues so far

[urban elbow]

ok, let me found the original reports

[feral sentinel]

console just spams errors about a missing tooltip(Clone)

it's harmless but clogs up the logs

whenever you press the sprint key, it instantly sets your FOV to 68 and releasing sprint instantly sets it back to 66, as of imperium v1.0

in vanilla there is a gradual shift

[urban elbow]

issue related to hiding the HUD : #1225942840282976316 message
issue about FOV increasing too fast : #1225942840282976316 message
issue about a fake error log spam : #1225942840282976316 message
@alpine glacier

ah buttery was faster than me ok

[feral sentinel]

well i didnt realize that HUD hiding issue was a thing

[urban elbow]

Thats because you need to manually call HUDManager.Instance.HideHUD(false)

which is a very specific thing to do actually

[alpine glacier]

Again, I'll have a look, but probably won't be forking Imperium, so most fixes will likely be band-aid fixes

[urban elbow]

Thats ok, just temporary fixes on a separate mod just like the one you published is perfectly fine

[distant stag]

Why didn't you just pr a fix?

[alpine glacier]

Well...

• There's another PR that has been open for several months
• Said PR has no responses at all
• My fix really shouldn't make it into the production code of Imperium 💀

It literally uses Reflections to reload all Imperium keybinds whenever you join or host a lobby.
Certainly not a proper fix 😅

[distant stag]

Oh really? 💀

Welp that went under my radar

[distant stag]

Yeah yeah but if you made a PR you could've just actually fixed it, no?

But maybe that was more work, then it makes sense

[alpine glacier]

Yeah, I'm registering my keybinds slightly different, so I didn't want to mess with Imperium's code too much to prevent breaking something 😅

[plucky granite]

Wait does this concern me? Im hiding hud with a keybind as well

I’ll read your message above this a bit later

[alpine glacier]

But I'll try to make PRs next time ^^

[urban elbow]

hmm depends what code is used when you use your keybind, i cant tell

[plucky granite]

https://github.com/s1ckboii/LethalHUD/blob/master/HUD/LethalHUDMono.cs

cant open imperium to conpare right now, signal on train is bad

[bitter compass]

yours is fine as far as i can tell

[urban elbow]

I can see the vanilla HideHUD function call, so it should have the conflict issue with imperium yes
But keep in mind the only issue here is that when calling HideHUD(false) when the HUD was previously hidden by Imperium then the HUD will be visible again but you will not see stuff like interaction icons

If you dont have Imperium installed then there is no issue with that code

[plucky granite]

Gotcha alright

[alpine glacier]

@distant stag hope the Ping is fine...
Btw, whatever Imperium does for UE integration, it prevents me from using the Main Menu properly...

I always have to unhide and hide the UE menu again to be able to press any buttons

Disabling Imperium or using CUE, which Imperium doesn't support, fixes this

[distant stag]

yeah lol this has been an issue since the release of Imperium

idk i cant really figure out why this happens

whats CUE?

[alpine glacier]

Maybe just disable the integration until you're actually in the game?

[alpine glacier]

Unity Explorer Fork, promising BepInEx 6 Support and Performance benefits. I couldn't confirm the latter, so I'll still with UE

[distant stag]

wait so what exactly is wrong in the main menu?

i was talking about a bug that happens when switching from imperium windows to UE windows and back

but that doesn't work in the main menu

[alpine glacier]

The main menu breaks. Doesn't accept any mouse input

Have to press the hide/unhide button twice to fix it

Which is fast, but still annoying

[distant stag]

hmm, I had a similar issue but it started working again after some time (like 5-6 seconds)

I thought this was just a general issue that only happens sometimes

[alpine glacier]

Nah, extremely consistent

Happens everytime

[bitter compass]

yeah i've had this issue everytime

[distant stag]

huh thats very weird, like has this been an issue for a long time?

[bitter compass]

it's like the game takes an extra 5 seconds to allow you to give any inputs to the main menu, but i didnt realise this was imperium?

[alpine glacier]

Also, UE is extremely blurry for some reason

[distant stag]

yeah, I thought this wasnt Imperium

[bitter compass]

oh, yeah i havent even tested with imperium in ages, you sure its imperium testy?

[distant stag]

i thought it was an UE issue

[alpine glacier]

I disabled Imperium and the issue was gone

Re-enabled Imperium and it reappears

Or the issue is not as consistent as I thought and it just never happened when I tested without Imperium, I dunno 🤷

[distant stag]

for me, this felt kinda inconsistent

but I also use quickload a lot to load into games immediately

i dont see why Imperium would cause this either, like basically everything Imperium related loads with the game

at least UI related stuff

[bitter compass]

yeah i just had it without imperium lol

[distant stag]

with UE?

[alpine glacier]

Okay, guess I'm just Schizo or smth

[bitter compass]

ye with UE

[distant stag]

yeah so I think this is just a vanilla UE thing

because that also loads from the start

[bitter compass]

yeah i think thats just when its deciding to load

[distant stag]

and its been known to mess with input stuff in LC

[alpine glacier]

How's that though? You can press F7 twice quickly and it fixes the freeze immediately

[bitter compass]

that's true as well, so idk maybe

[distant stag]

I dont think its a freeze, I think UE has some invisible overlay or something that blocks input to the main menu

so the disabling and re-enabling fix would make sense

no clue tho why waiting also fixes it

[manic ember]

yeah UE always requires a double tap of F7 for me x.x hate it.. i dont think waiting fixes it, just.. you reencounter it later... maybe its an invisible splash screen or something, i d k, but ive pressed F2 with imperium and been unable to type or click until i double tap F7 before.

[urban elbow]

lmao 😭 im so used to double F7 that i always do double F7 even when im just playing normally without imperium or UE installed

[bitter compass]

Honestly I switched the keybind to oem tilde

[alpine glacier]

New Pull Request just dropped

-# I hope it doesn't overlooked like the other one 💀

[bitter compass]

if you're gonna do more PR's, i'd like for the outside and inside map objects to be checked for a network object before instantiating so they can be instantiated and then spawned by the host only properly :p

[distant stag]

I'm pretty sure I'm already spawning network objects wherever it's possible

Only exception is outside map objects I think, like trees and such which don't have a network object

[bitter compass]

yeah i was gonna say maybe for inside objects but outside objects, especially modded, when they do have a network object, it just doesnt spawn it

[distant stag]

Well there is no special case for modded objects, there's a specific way to fetch each type of object and some types have a network object (like items, map hazards) and some don't (like outside objects)

[bitter compass]

yeah, but i think it should be possible to check for that since you do explicitly collect modded objects, like from lethallib (and maybe eventually dawnlib)

[alpine glacier]

Modded Hazard support would be nice

Would make it so I didn't have to set spawn curve to absurd values for testing 😅

[distant stag]

Hmm, it should be possible if you register hazards via lethallib

No? It's been a while 😅

[bitter compass]

yeah, but outside hazards that have network objects from lethallib wont work with imperium is what he means

[alpine glacier]

Pretty sure I'm registering them myself because LethalLib had some issues 🤔

[bitter compass]

oh lol

[distant stag]

Wait so some hazards have network objects and some don't?

[bitter compass]

they can depending on how they're registered, im trying to remember a bit more now since i havent used lethallib in a while since i made my own lib

[distant stag]

Because the way Imperium indexes and addresses networked and non-networked objects (for synchronized moving and despawning) is very different

So this would be more difficult than just checking for a network object when spawning

[bitter compass]

ic

[distant stag]

Like if it's not a network object, certain RPCs have to be called on clients to make sure everything is still in sync

[spare lagoon]

is there a way to completely disable a monster's AI ?

just making him stand still

[distant stag]

You can disable the checkbox in object explorer

[spare lagoon]

ah

I see

thank you !

[distant stag]

Does anyone know if imperium broke in v73? I haven't checked and I am not home for some days

[balmy scroll]

With a quick little run through, it seemed okay

but I didn't do too much so there could still be something wrong that I missed

[distant stag]

Okay but it's already good to know it works on a basic level, thanks!

[torn bough]

the mod shall never be broken by game updates again
(totally totally won't break in v74 :3)

[distant stag]

True

[alpine glacier]

Do you think you could add support for RuntimeUnityEditor? It seems to be much more performance-friendly than UnityExplorer and can do basically the same stuff

[bitter compass]

UnityExplorer doesn't lag anymore though

[alpine glacier]

What are you talking about?
I click on, for example, HUDManager and the entire UI just freezes ._.

[bitter compass]

Before v73?

[alpine glacier]

Also with v73

[bitter compass]

Dunno I don't get that, did u turn on the event override config?

[alpine glacier]

Everything at default values

[bitter compass]

Yeah turn on the event override config

[alpine glacier]

Will try that next time

Well, guess that actually does increase performance.

Why doesn't it default to that tho?

[balmy star]

Disable Lag: [✅]

That setting pretty much 💀

[distant stag]

what kind of support are you talking about?

like the UI integration?

[alpine glacier]

Yeee

That the camera freezes when you open it

[distant stag]

oh yeah

[peak flicker]

is it possible to get imperium's object explorer to work with custom outdoor hazards? like coderebirth

or did coderebirth just implement stuff in a weird way

[distant stag]

Well as I recall it outdoor hazards aren't really like standardized in the game, so I'd have to manually support specific mods

[peak flicker]

ah i see

also minor question but when override door is enabled is it normal to be tp'd back into the ship if u leave?

[distant stag]

like when youre in space?

[peak flicker]

Yeah

[distant stag]

yeah you need to also disable out of bounds

otherwise it will teleport you back no matter if the door is locked or not

[nova flower]

Any plans to fix this incompat?
https://github.com/giosuel/imperium/pull/100

[distant stag]

merged and pushed, thunderstore might take a minute to update tho

[nova flower]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-cat-five-meow-five-bros-friends-gif-17956519

[slate finch]

Meow meow!

[urban elbow]

wooooo imperium W 🙌

there is still very minor things to deal with now

but thanks for taking time to merge the pr

[warm mortar]

awesome as freak

[peak flicker]

holy crap

[formal maple]

thank you lord for fixing imperium

[manic ember]

so is "ImperiumFix" still required/advised? 😮

[nova flower]

I think so

[peak flicker]

is imperium desync normal? or is it another mod? i might just have to keep it disabled because hosting a lobby with it is such a pain

[distant stag]

what kind of desync are we talking about?

[peak flicker]

items not appearing for some players, things being missing from the ship, players being alive/dead, game not registering certain people as alive (so ship will leave for no reason)

ive also had a pretty frequent bug where a players inventory completely breaks/softlocks after picking up an item

but as i said it could definitely be another mod causing this

[distant stag]

uhm yeah that doesnt really seem imperium related to me

[urban elbow]

if you spawn an item with imperium on the host, no problem
but if you do it on the client? it will place it somewhere close to the hand but impossible to grab, thats why you need to always spawn item from a flying state to be able to spawn it at a desired position and not directly in hands (for client players)

[manic ember]

i cant say about picking up an item because i havent tried, but, when i spawn a belt bag, it puts it in my reserved slot, then breaks my inventory completely... once i spawn a second one, i have 2 belt bags and my inventory is fine.

cant say if thats a reserved slot issue, or just a "first item pickup" issue, or an item spawning issue, but way back when i used to spawn items and get "spawning 0 x item" messages and no item sometimes.

[peak flicker]

ive noticed that reviving/killing players only works if client access is enabled (it seems like this is kinda causing that desync too although i havent noticed it in a bit so maybe not)
i know all players need the mod installed for these functions to work, but does disabling client access count as them not having the mod? is that intended? ty

[bitter compass]

@distant stag is there a way i can add stuff to imperium's spawn list? i.e. dawnlib adds networked outside hazards which base game doesnt have but i wanna be able to spawn em with imperium

[distant stag]

Well it's not that easy, Imperium needs like a common factor to categorize outdoor hazards and the base game doesn't have anything like that

So you can't really manually add anything like that

[bitter compass]

imperium doesnt have like any list i can inject to for just generic networked prefabs?

[distant stag]

Well I think there is a list that maps generic objects? I can't remember lol

Like trees and stuff are in there

It would be in core/objectexplorer.cs

I think that's the file

[balmy star]

Also DawnLib items and enemies

Probably gotta add some compat for em

I assume it's only LLL lists being taken into account

[bitter compass]

okie ill try to take a look

[bitter compass]

i would hopefully assume Imperium just gets em from all the vanilla lists rather than manual compat with LLL and LL

cuz that'd be kinda.. uh yeah

[distant stag]

Yes I do not have any dependency for LLL or lethallib

[balmy star]

Oh weird, ye not sure then

[distant stag]

I do vanilla only

The only thing I do with LLL is using it's name map for customly added object

[balmy star]

You can spawn in items added through LLL

[distant stag]

And I'm not even sure if that's fully implemented

[balmy star]

Spawning custom map objects do work also

I can spawn banana peels on demand

[distant stag]

What's a custom map object?

Like a map hazard?

[balmy star]

Outside map objects like pumpkins and trees

Though also hazards work iirc

[distant stag]

Hmmm, I don't quite remember how those are implemented then

[balmy star]

Ye I just mean the systems for spawning those with Imperium do work, so not too sure why DawnLib stuff doesn't show up

[distant stag]

You should be able to see the full code in objectexplorer.cs tho

I honestly don't know lol

[bitter compass]

dawnlib's outside hazards dont use vanilla

they cant

outside hazards in base lethal are non networked

[balmy star]

Ye

[bitter compass]

imperium does have LL compat for its outside hazards iirc

[balmy star]

Banana peel outside objects are just a spawner for them

[bitter compass]

yeah that was one way batby said i could do outside objects, have a spawner, but that felt pretty iffy (and pretty convoluted)

[austere dagger]

I get this error when trying to use it. Does anyone know whats causing it?

[oak venture]

Imperium ILHooks that method while it's executing which causes the references in the RuntimeILReferenceBag to be redone which are valid for the new method, but now invalid for the executing method

[austere dagger]

ima be honest I have no clue what this means

[oak venture]

basically:

1. Caused by Imperium
2. Explodes when someone stores data during an ILHook (e.g. EmitDelegate (PremiumScraps for example does this afaik))
3. Technically MonoMod's fault (the library we use that does the actual runtime detouring)

hmm actually that probably isn't much better

For full explanation of the issue, see #dev-general message

[urban elbow]

ok, here is a very stylish ultra cool user friendly explanation

• caused by imperium
• incompatibility with some mods
• do you have PremiumScraps installed? if yes, you need to enable player spawn animation skip in imperium config, then the problem is fixed
• if you don't have this mod installed, good luck

[distant stag]

least convoluted bug btw

[urban elbow]

yeah totally

[austere dagger]

it was better spray paint

the fork

[urban elbow]

ah yes, Better spray paint is the other known mod that cause this issue

[thorn loom]

Kinda interested in this too

[stoic rover]

Does anyone know if imperium messes with the interior size multiplier of lethal level loader?

I wanted to test LLL's changes for custom interiors, but it seems that imperium is just defauting to the moon's size multiplier instead of allowing LLL to affect it.

I know that i can change the multiplier through imperium, and that's great, but I wanted to know if LLL is just not doing anything, or if imperium is overriding it.

[hollow granite]

LLL’s at one point didn’t work. I know Paco’s talked about fixing it, but I don’t know if he has yet

[stoic rover]

Is there any alternative that isn't Lunar Config? It messes with scarlet devil mansion.

[hollow granite]

Not that I’m aware of. Has that issue been brought up with the devs of those mods?

[stoic rover]

Well I learned that lunar config conflicted with scarlet devil mansion by searching through past conversations on this discord. So I would guess so, but I haven't personally said as much to them.

Also it does seem that LLL does in fact still not work with the size multiplier.

[alpine glacier]

It would be nice to see a setting to have Pause Time default to enabled.

I see myself not needing time more often than not

[wicked oracle]

Does the save file editor just corrupt your save file now in the latest version?

[topaz matrix]

i've been having an issue where trying to change LastVerPlayed to a different version results in this error occurring on launch, after picking online / LAN. it seems like the mod is inputting the value given as a string (even when i've entered an int both times, 57 and 55 respectively) which causes the save file to stop being readable. unsure of how to fix this beyond just deleting LCGeneralSaveData so LC can make a new one for now

[Error  : Unity Log] InvalidOperationException: Trying to load data of type System.Int32, but data contained in file is type of System.String.
Stack trace:
ES3Reader.ReadTypeFromHeader[T] () (at <007bd79b7b84414bb57e04d87c0056ce>:0)
ES3Reader.Read[T] (System.String key, T defaultValue) (at <007bd79b7b84414bb57e04d87c0056ce>:0)
ES3.Load[T] (System.String key, T defaultValue, ES3Settings settings) (at <007bd79b7b84414bb57e04d87c0056ce>:0)
ES3.Load[T] (System.String key, System.String filePath, T defaultValue) (at <007bd79b7b84414bb57e04d87c0056ce>:0)
InitializeGame.Awake () (at <83220f1fc337491eba19b3618ec61339>:0)

[spring dragon]

Hey @distant stag by any chance is there like a video describing each feature? It’s a very confusing menu lol. For example I seen a picture showing you can see items thru walls and see the value for it and stuff but when I try and enable all that it doesn’t work. Also under visualization there’s absolutely no insights or anything at all. And last thing how can I get labels for loot on the minimap? Is that possible

[spring dragon]

Please give like a video guide if there is one please its alot of commands lol

[distant stag]

unfortunately there is no up-to-date video guide for imperium for lethal company

there is one for imperium for repo but quite a bit has changed since I made the LC version

[distant stag]

there should be insights for items, are you using other mods?

[stoic rover]

Didn't even know you could see items through walls with this.

[spring dragon]

I added it to a modpack yes. But I even went to test it on its own with no other mods and I couldn’t see any insights. Is there a fix?

[spring dragon]

Yea doesn’t this mod have an esp feature. I could be wrong

[distant stag]

uhh weird, could you send a screenshot?

[spring dragon]

@stoic rover this feature where it shows the item and the details

[spring dragon]

Yea I got you. What do you want a screenshot of exactly?

Just the insight not being there??

Or my logs or something

@distant stag

[distant stag]

well like the empty insights would be nice

and also logs maybe yeah

[plucky granite]

Im still thinking of this ui, its so freaking good lookin

[distant stag]

thanks, much appreciated!

[bitter compass]

im never thinking of that ui, it ruined my life

[distant stag]

like you mean the little overlay?

[plucky granite]

Hehe I just love the simplistic yet futuristic design

Looks very pleasing for my eyes

[bitter compass]

nice normal map btw

[plucky granite]

[alpine glacier]

Gender?

[plucky granite]

Yeah shishas spawn in pairs male and female now

[swift lance]

how to fix this

[distant stag]

uhh this seems like some mod incompatibility

some mod that adds content

[swift lance]

alr

[spring dragon]

Yo bro @distant stag if I sent my logs you think you’ll be able to find out why my imperium doesn’t have all the features??

[distant stag]

well I can try to find it out

[spring dragon]

It’s empty dead or alive

Am I supposed to have certain stuff turned on in visualization to see all that stuff? @distant stag

[distant stag]

not really, this seems to be a bug

but i have no idea what would be causing it if not other mods

i dont think this is a common issue?

[spring dragon]

This is the only mod I have on

Do you want me to send a picture of my mods?

To confirm

[distant stag]

can you send the logs?

[spring dragon]

how i do that? sorry @distant stag

[distant stag]

you have to open your profile folder

and theres a file with .log

[spring dragon]

that?

[distant stag]

honestly I have no idea

have you tried a fresh profile?

[spring dragon]

Yes

That was a fresh one

This is the main modpack I have

Nothing pops up

[distant stag]

what if you disable imperium fix mod?

[spring dragon]

it didnt work with it off thats why i added it idk

do i need anything on? like in the menu for it to work

idk why its like that, its like features dont work for me

@distant stag

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[distant stag]

honestly I am not really sure

[spring dragon]

this is for my main modpack if maybe itll help u pinpoint

[distant stag]

I am kinda busy rn so I am not sure when I'll get to looking at this

[spring dragon]

ur good bro dw, sorry for the spam i just have free time to send it all

so maybe when u get a chance u can see it

[spring dragon]

Umm I clicked factors reset and reset UI in preferences and this happened ..

What does this mean

it went away when i turned off space sun in render

how do i reset imperium to have all default stuff it comes with

[distant stag]

best is to just delete the mod and reinstall in r2

or delete the config file in the config folder in your profile folder

[spring dragon]

i completely deleted the folder and redownloaded it lol

no difference

whats r2?

[distant stag]

like mod manager

[spring dragon]

it dont work on thunderstore? thats what i use

[distant stag]

that also works

[spring dragon]

yea idk the issue

[distant stag]

you deleted the folder

and then it didnt reset to default settings?

[spring dragon]

my insights literally have nothing

nope

[distant stag]

well if it didnt reset that means you deleted the wrong folder or something

when you delete the config it will reset to default

[spring dragon]

could it be that my steam is installed on my c drive but my games are on my d drive

or that dont matter

[distant stag]

probably not

[wicked oracle]

Is the save file editor in Imperium outdated now? I tried to edit my save file and I was met with a pop up telling me that my save file was corrupted when I relaunched.

[distant stag]

yeah it is currently not advised that the save file editor is used

[spring dragon]

where else would it be? i swear i did everything right

[distant stag]

i have no idea honestly lol

[spring dragon]

i mean when i started the game again, all the notifications was back on and i had them off

so something reset idk

[alpine glacier]

Any plans on that?

[spring dragon]

how do you make minimap smaller??

yea imperium just must not work for me idk man

[spring dragon]

is there a specific version i should or shouldnt be on? maybe that helps? or i installed it wrong? i mean i did it straight from thunderstore with dependencies @distant stag

[distant stag]

well its on the list but idk when I will push the next update

[distant stag]

honestly idk, its supposed to work with the latest version on the latest imperium version

i think

[spring dragon]

Should I try like downgrading something? @distant stag

Like a previous version of bepinex

[distant stag]

idk that would probably not work

[spring dragon]

Damn I guess I have to use it without features idk

[spring dragon]

the mod is up to date with v73?

[distant stag]

yes it should

[spring dragon]

ok bet

idk why its bugging me lol i wanna fix it

is there anything you reccomend for the insights to show up? is there a mod im missing for it?

[distant stag]

no there is no other mod

[spring dragon]

should something be on in the config? i might have it off

[distant stag]

well if you reset the config then it should be fine

but if the stuff hasnt reset then you didnt delete the correct config

[spring dragon]

is there a way u can help me?

[distant stag]

im afraid i dont know how

[hollow granite]

wait I have it to on a fresh profile with just Imperium and dependencies too. We are talking about the insignts not being labeled and stuff, right?

[spring dragon]

yes i dont see any insights and idk why

pls help if you know

@hollow granite

[hollow granite]

I'm saying that I also have the issue, so it's not just you

[spring dragon]

yea idk how to fix it man its annoying

i wanna use the insights lol

[hollow granite]

You can still turn them on in the config file/toggling the checkbox. It's just the label is missing in the UI

not ideal, but the functionality looks intact

[spring dragon]

how do i do that

u have it working in a different save?

[hollow granite]

Thunderstore/R2Modman show configs differently, but this is through Gale

[spring dragon]

what version is your bepinex

can u check pls

are u on v5.4.2304

[hollow granite]

whatever one comes with it: 5.4.2304

[spring dragon]

ok hold up im about to try sum

lemme see this ill lyk if it work

on ur new save, the one it didnt work, what version of imperium do u have on that one?

[hollow granite]

it's not a BepInEx issue from what I can tell. I think it really is just the UI isn't displaying properly. Again, the buttons work, just aren't labeled.

[hollow granite]

Imperium is 1.1.1 but I went back to 1.0.0 too. Issue remained

[spring dragon]

hmmm ok i was gonna try that

[hollow granite]

1.0.0 was a big update. It might've broken it on accident. Perhaps going back further would fix it but I don't think those versions are compatible with the current game version

I'm surprised I didn't catch this before. I've been using this a decent amount recently for the navmesh visualizer and some of the pathfinding visualizers for working on some of my stuff. I guess I just didn't look at that corner of the UI

[distant stag]

what the hell

i assumed its not a general problem

[hollow granite]

unfortunately, it might be. unless we're both cursed

[distant stag]

wait but

has this been broken for all this time?

there hasnt been a lethal update, has there?

[hollow granite]

Game's V73

I guess chagelog's last say v70 explicitly

[distant stag]

thats really weird

why would it just break like that

[hollow granite]

idk how long it's been this way. I don't usually touch this screen. When I do it's usually just to see navmesh or an enemy pathfinding and that all has been fine

[distant stag]

weirdge

[spring dragon]

Well, glad to know I wasn’t tripping or my save was broken

😭😭😂lol

[hollow granite]

at least it seems like it is just the labels are gone. The functionality is still there. In a way though, that seems weirder. I'd expect code to break, not the UI

[violet stratus]

hello, havent played in a while. last i did i had issues with imperium and spiders/spider webs causing lag, anyone know if thats been solved?

and there was also an issue when using imperium and PremiumScraps that i also reported, if any dev can remember that

[urban elbow]

Ok I found a very old message #1225942840282976316 message

[distant stag]

Hahahaha yeah the premium scrap bug

I don't think that has been resolved

[dark heath]

hello ive been wondering about this for a little while, what does scrolling the mouse wheel while holding Alt do? (video to show what i mean)

[distant stag]

uhhhh

usually that increases / decreases the zoom of the minimap

but it shouldnt really happen when in the freecam I think?

[dark heath]

ah ok thanks, i dont use the minimap really so i didnt think of it

[violet stratus]

So i had a bracken try to run away but he got stuck in place and the console was sending me this error a million times a second, not sure if imperium issue or coderebirth

[bitter compass]

would be imperium

[dark heath]

when unlocking the shop i noticed that the signal translator shows up in the list of all decor, and i've also encountered the signal translator showing up in an advertisement before while getting footage (seemingly the only ship upgrade that can do so). does imperium add this to the decor list or is this just a thing in vanilla?

[distant stag]

uhh I dont think Imperium changes anything in the vanilla lists

[dark heath]

alright ty

[bitter compass]

idk why i never reported this before, but uh, @distant stag can these two errors be fixed?
its your MonoBehaviour fields, it treats some of the things you're assigning there as constructors which entirely breaks imperium (in Development mode of lethal company, which i use a lot)

should be a quick fix too, switching some of those field assignments into awake instead of a constructor

[distant stag]

lmao how have i never seen this error

so youre saying that I do this stuff in the constructor? i cant even remember ever even using constructors lol

[bitter compass]

depending on what you're assigning the field, it considers it a constructor

[distant stag]

wait its a lifecycle object, which used to not be a gameobject but then i changed it

[bitter compass]

i believe anyway

[distant stag]

isnt this pretty breaking?

how has nobody ever reported this until now

[bitter compass]

it's an error that only comes up during development build of lethal company

[distant stag]

oh

like if you build it yourself in le unity editor?

[bitter compass]

seems like the dev versions of games have some more error stuff? not sure

[bitter compass]

nah, it's like unity's own thing for being able to attach processes to the editor

im not too sure tbh but its what you would need to profile the game

[distant stag]

but zeekerss doesnt provide this, does he?

so its something you do by yourself in the editor

[bitter compass]

nope, unity does