Imperium

[bitter compass]

Pretty much yeah, and WR for weathers

[mighty swallow]

eva chill but it's hamunii who's maintaing it nowdays

[bitter compass]

Eba laid a pretty solid foundation, LL is very solid for registering content, just don't look at the codebase

[distant stag]

i mean the codebase of 95% of mods is cursed af

[bitter compass]

The main problem is just a loooooot of copy paste

LLL was introduced post eba working on LL

[mighty swallow]

there was a tiny overlap

[bitter compass]

So stuff like registering enemies in LLL moons is a weird copy paste

[bitter compass]

Yeah probably

[distant stag]

okay wait but so you are saying I am just able to use this instead of having to go through the bucketing and indexing of custom content?

[mighty swallow]

yeah probably

i dunno how it handles LL stuff rn

buyers beware

[distant stag]

right

okay i might go with the generic approach and keep the LLL system in the back of my head for now

I wonder how people test their added things when its not by spawning it

[bitter compass]

We do spawn it, unless it's map objects... then u crank up the spawns and go into the interior loo

Lol*

[distant stag]

yeah i guess

well now you can spawn them too

idk nobody ever asked for this feature, I only added it as a preparation for the level editor

[sweet drift]

Is this normal? I'm being spammed with that and my game become laggy

I'm currently testing my modpack but I'm no developer, so idk what that means.

[distant stag]

its a weird internal error, most likely caused by some incompatibility

ill have a look later

[sweet drift]

ahh okay, I'll try to find the culprit the. since I'm only enabling a couple of mods it might be easy to find

Idk how to recreate that error tho 😅

[vivid mesa]

will there be an update to make imperium host only any time soon?

[distant stag]

wdym with host only?

[vivid mesa]

that only the host requires the mod to use it, because other people cant join me when i have the mod installed

[distant stag]

that should have been fixed in v0.2.3, but I'd not recommend it anwyays as a lot ot things won't work / will desync if only the host as it

i would recommend downloading it on all clients

[vivid mesa]

yeah but i wanna use it to troll

[distant stag]

theres a setting that allows the host to disable imperium for clients, so only you can use it

[distant stag]

well it should technically work with the new version if you also have the newest version of lethal network api

[vivid mesa]

yeah i do

but what stuff would desync?

[distant stag]

well a lot of things require client synchronization like changing the weather or teleporting players or items

because there is no vanilla way to just do that as the host

[vivid mesa]

well changing weather or teleport stuff except for me was something i was planning on doing anyways lol

but everything else mostly works fine?

[distant stag]

spawning entities should work if thats what youre after

not sure what else you would want to do to troll

[vivid mesa]

and turrets and stuff like that works fine?

[distant stag]

I think so yeah

i haven't really done a lot of testing on that

[vivid mesa]

aight thanks

[feral sentinel]

imperium is causing the cruiser to infinitely boost even without the setting enabled

the only other cruiser mod im using is cruiser improved

turning off imperium lets me rock the car like normal

[bitter compass]

giosuel stop feeding my car steroids

[distant stag]

yeah I knew something was up, I'll have a look, thx

[feral sentinel]

👍

[vivid mesa]

wait sorry for the reply so late but does everyone need the lethal network api installed? or is it completely host only?

[distant stag]

only the people that have imperium also need lethal network api

[vivid mesa]

ok nice

and also when i start modded can people without bepinex and all that also join?

or will that version error appear

[distant stag]

that depends on the mods you are using

[vivid mesa]

well i have bepinex (obviously), and imperium (with the dependencies)

[distant stag]

yeah that should work

[last bloom]

Hey @distant stag can I DM you about an error I'm receiving with Imperium? I'd post here but it's related to something spoilery I'm working on at the moment

[cosmic wigeon]

might be a silly question, but can only the host use imperium? or can all joined players use it?

and if I, as host, enable minimap, will all players see it?

[jovial verge]

Host needs it for all clients to use it, but only host needs it, clients don't need it installed unless they want to use imperium too

[alpine glacier]

For some reason, I have to constantly restart my game while testing because Imperium doesn't succeed in granting me access (Host...) and breaks the entire game

(As soon as I grab an item the game breaks. Can be made worse by scrolling)

[cosmic wigeon]

oh! so if i have it installed, but my 2 mates have it disabled, only i can spawn stuff and all that?

thats awesome

time for a lil bit of trolling 🧌

[distant stag]

Yeah sure, go ahead

[distant stag]

Logs?

[alpine glacier]

Also... Please fix the keybinds issues ;-;

[distant stag]

the keybind issues are an issue with input utils we are currently working on

[distant stag]

but this log is like insanely huge, can you maybe turn off some harmonyX logging?

i cant even tell where you picked up an item

[alpine glacier]

I actually didn't pick up any items this time.

Just closed as soon as I got the failed message 😅

Pretty sure that's the relevant part:
https://pastebin.com/0cAyfMZX

[distant stag]

oh yeah this is a weather error

i probably should merge that PR

[distant stag]

could you send me your modpack code, so I an test it ?

[alpine glacier]

I already shut down my PC tbh 😅

[distant stag]

do you know how the (or one of) the mods that added a custom weather via weather registry?

[alpine glacier]

CodeRebirth adds new weather 🤔

[distant stag]

what is coderebirth

|| @bitter compass ||

[bitter compass]

literally everything

[distant stag]

is the tornado in there?

i really wanna see it

[bitter compass]

ye

v62 broke tornado

and i havent updated cuz im mid update

[distant stag]

D:

[bitter compass]

it broke the choose furthest node

so it just doesnt despawn lol

[distant stag]

how do I get it?

is it supposed to be a custom weather?

[bitter compass]

ye

it's a custom weather

there's also meteor shower

[distant stag]

oh no it doesnt show up

[bitter compass]

it should

[distant stag]

like in imperium

even though I merged andrey's PR

[bitter compass]

not sure then, it shows fine on monitors

[distant stag]

what another weather mod I could try

[bitter compass]

lethal elements i think

[distant stag]

oki

lethal elements works

[bitter compass]

imperium L

[distant stag]

how are you adding it?

[bitter compass]

i just register it through WR

[distant stag]

so weird

I mean andrey wrote this code

so I assumed it works

and they are not here 🫠

[last bloom]

Sent!

[tight wharf]

wait what

how is it not working 🥺

can you check if it's registered in unity explorer?

[distant stag]

well it does work for lethal elements

but not code rebirth

[tight wharf]

that's really weird

[distant stag]

maybe its a code rebirth skill issue

[tight wharf]

you could check if it's showing up in WeatherManager.RegisteredWeathers when you're in main menu

i don't know what could cause that 🤔

[bitter compass]

Nou

Keep in mind I soft depend on imperium too so maybe you're having a load order skill issue

[tight wharf]

this shouldn't be an issue because it's getting the list from Registry

but I'm not entirely sure

[stray summit]

when i use it to test mods and i die and spectate, when i use free cam spectating is broken

like once i use free cam while being dead i can't properly spectate anymore

[distant stag]

hmm interestng

[stray summit]

i can send a ss to give an example rq

[distant stag]

Sure

[stray summit]

kinda forgot i cant spectate in a solo game 💀

it basically takes the camera to the spot where all dead players goto if that makes sense

and when you go to freecam and back to spectate it just shows the void

[distant stag]

Yeah I think I know why

[stray summit]

its not like major but it would be nice to not stare into darkness when trying to watch my friend die 💀

[distant stag]

lmao

[stray summit]

if you can fix it that would be amazing

[vivid mesa]

Hey, whats new in the update 0.2.4?

[distant stag]

Just bug fixes and performance improvements

[vivid mesa]

uh i was testing the host only thing out with a friend of mine and nothing seems to work

the interiors dont have collisions for my friends and also they dont even have the same interior as me

[distant stag]

yeah there is currently a bug where the interiors desync in multiplayer

use v0.2.3 for now, I will push a fix later

[vivid mesa]

does 0.2.4 break it?

[distant stag]

yes

[vivid mesa]

but i still cant revive without it breaking

and i cant spawn anything if im dead

[distant stag]

I pushed a fix, it should be on thunderstore soon

[vivid mesa]

oh great, what did it patch?

[distant stag]

well there was a bug where the interior was always mineshaft for the host

but not for clients

[vivid mesa]

oh yeah that was exactly what i had

is that the only thing?

[distant stag]

there was also a bug where spectating broke when you returned from freecam

that should be fixed

[vivid mesa]

ah nice

and about the bug where other people cant see you when you revive yourself?

[distant stag]

not sure, does that still happen?

[vivid mesa]

i mean i dont have any friends online to test it right now

how can you even reply so fast all the time lol

[distant stag]

lol wdym

im just doing something and have discord open on the side

[vivid mesa]

ah

[stray summit]

thanks so much

😇

[jovial verge]

gio the goat

[last bloom]

Minor issue: Using God mode against the ||Maneater|| permanently breaks it, making it unable to kill at all after that, and also breaks the player's ability to swing weapons

[torn bough]

happens with eyeless dogs and any death pit/gordions water

[last bloom]

Weirdly it's also not consistent in my experience and only happens sometimes lmao

[cosmic wigeon]

umm i think imperium is bugged

everytime i use a command, such as Z to remove HUD, i get a massive lag spike

same thing happens when an entity spawns and i get the notification

[jovial verge]

do you have any other mods, that might be conflicting with imperium

[cosmic wigeon]

i dont think so

not even sure if imperium is the problem, but it seemed like it

[jovial verge]

I cant see the txt file im on phone

Someone else might be able to help but you should launch imperium without other mods to see if its still doing the lag

[normal trench]

So can we get a patch for the cruiser always being in super jump mode anytime soon?

[distant stag]

there are like a million logs in here from sound tool

and yeah, for some reason refreshing takes 800 ms which is unusual, were there a lot of entities on the map?

[cosmic wigeon]

i think i figured it out

it was the music pack i had for facility meltdown

for some reason "hurry up from Wario 4" caused the lag

idk why or how

but i tested with and without it

[distant stag]

well Imperium could take long if there is a massive amount of objects on the map, so maybe the mod is adding a lot of objects

[cosmic wigeon]

hmmm i doubt it

ill have to do more testing, but for now the game runs much better without the (awesome, sadly) music mod

[distant stag]

hmm alright good

[distant stag]

does this happen with other entities too?

[cosmic wigeon]

obviousely facility meltdown causes more spawns, but tests definitely point toward the music atm

[distant stag]

interesting

[distant stag]

a fix is pushed

[torn bough]

not to my knowledge

[distant stag]

weird

[vivid mesa]

hey, whats new in the update 😄

[distant stag]

just some bug fixes related to the cruiser

you can always find the full patch notes on github

[vivid mesa]

ah

btw there is a bug where if i revive myself and then when i die, the ship will just fly away even when other players are still alive

and i cant spawn stuff when im dead, idk if thats intentional

[dawn ridge]

could you add a way to change the game object (especially item) properties like in the unity explorer mod? this will really help beginners align items in hand with a simple UI/UX experience

[distant stag]

uhh what properties would you want to change?

[bitter compass]

Rest rotation

Hold rotation

Hold position

Vertical offset

[distant stag]

hmm, well I thought about it but there is already unity explorer for exactly that, no? i feel like it would be a waste of effort for me to basically rebuild something that already exists

[bitter compass]

If u can make it a lot more convenient, like a button that zooms a bit out of the player and let's u rotate around and view the player holding the item and you're able to change said item's rotation and position values with a slider

That'd be really nice

[dawn ridge]

that will be cool, because unity explorer is also very laggy (at least for me)

[modest hedge]

I suggestion
if it exist already but is there way to edit item off set position and rotation?

[bitter compass]

usually people use unity explorer, but yeah that's what we're asking for up above

[modest hedge]

losing frames because of that

[dawn ridge]

it also pretty annoying when i press 1 when im changing the values, the player starts dancing. it could be fixed with sliders

[modest hedge]

lol

yeah

[dawn ridge]

its funny, but its not helping

[modest hedge]

we lose frames because its poorly made

kinda annoying

[distant stag]

well I wonder how much one could increase performance of UE as it is doing a lot to fetch data every frame

I already spent a lot of effort into making my own UI as resource friendly as possible and its not easy either

I wrote down the suggestion but it will probably have to wait until I am done with the level editor as its a bigger project

[modest hedge]

thank you ❤️

[cosmic wigeon]

does spawning items only put them in inventory? or can i spawn them in a location, such as the ship?

[misty thicket]

If you are flying while you use the spawn commands I think it lets you point to where you want to place it

[distant stag]

^

[cosmic wigeon]

for some reason all of my store items are 69% off

how can i fix?

[distant stag]

Lol

Yeah this has something to do with quota

Did you disable quota before this happened?

[cosmic wigeon]

i dont think so

i havent messed with quota

at some point i set the remaining days to 1, but it didnt do anything

[dawn ridge]

level editor? something for moon makers or no?

[distant stag]

yeah, its a feature that will allow people to create their own indoor maps

[dawn ridge]

will it be like, nobody will use unity anymore?

or it wont compete with the traditional method

[distant stag]

well you will only be able to use vanilla tiles

you can set the layout of your dungeon but you can't use your own models

[dawn ridge]

what about moon making?

[distant stag]

it will be only about interiors

[dawn ridge]

ah ok 👍

[distant stag]

so you will be able to create for example hide and seek maps

for minigames

or manhunt maps

[dawn ridge]

that will be cool

[cosmic wigeon]

two questions:

1. do i have to be flying to select a place to spawn objects? or is there a setting that lets me select the spawn location normally?

2. i can spawn landmines, but i cant spawn turrets or modded hazards, such as teleporters or seamines. are there any plans to add them at some point? or perhaps there is a problem on my end...

[distant stag]

well there isnt really a way to detect map hazards, as they don't share a class or anything so I have to add them all manually

[cosmic wigeon]

ah yeah, fair enough

[distant stag]

@mighty swallow that brings me to the question, how does LLL do it? I assume there is some kind of generic way to add a map hazard? and if I were to find all objects of that type, would this also include vanilla map hazards
because rn I need to hold a list for every single map hazard (e.g. landmine, turret, etc) and concat them in a generic way when I want to display them in one list in Imperium which is suboptimal to say the least

[cosmic wigeon]

1 final question: if im using imperium, and my friend isnt, and i host, i can use all of it's functions, right? and he can see it all?

[mighty swallow]

depends, pretty sure the modded hazards your gonna run into rn are from lethal lib

[distant stag]

nope, the host-only functionality is very restricted as the client needs to cooperate in order to stay in sync, if there is no vanilla functionality for it, your non-imperium client will desync

e.g. you can set the quota as there is vanilla functionality for it but you cant revive a player as this is not standard game functionality

well you can, but you will create desync

[distant stag]

ohh I see, I'll have a look ova there, really need to create my own modded content at some point just to get a feel for it haha

[cosmic wigeon]

so how can i use imperium with a mate, but ensure that he cant access the functions? or not possible?

[distant stag]

there is a setting for that in the preferences window

you can decide if clients can also use imperium or not

for the best results, have it off before they join your lobby, but it should technically also work to turn it on / off while they are in your lobby

[bitter compass]

dont they all use spawnablemapobject or smthn

[distant stag]

thats outside objects like trees and rocks

which is now possible to spawn with imperium

[bitter compass]

i use spawnablemapobject for my inside hazard lol

[distant stag]

no clue why zeekerss didn't add a class for indoor map hazards, makes everything so much more complicated

wait what I am talking about is SpawnableMapObject

youre right, there is a class they use I guess

but its not like Landmine and Turret inherit from that class like entities do from EnemyAI

[bitter compass]

instances of that class hold the relevant prefabs though no?

[distant stag]

yeah but even if I stored them all in a list, I still need to figure out the type of hazard

this could maybe be useful for spawning though, especially if modded hazards also use it

[bitter compass]

isnt there SpawnableOutsideMapObject

[distant stag]

yeah thats for outside objects

[bitter compass]

wdym by type of hazard?

[distant stag]

Landmine, Turret, SpikeTrap etc

[mighty swallow]

thats a base class tho

[bitter compass]

also here's me registering inside if that helps

[mighty swallow]

its not like a scriptableobject

[bitter compass]

ic

[distant stag]

oh yeah that too

[bitter compass]

the Def is LL iirc

[distant stag]

I can't even get it from resources

because no scriptable obj

[distant stag]

so I assume they just added this type as scriptable object

[bitter compass]

ye

[distant stag]

so I could potentially use that

but I reckon the problem with vanilla hazards will persist

this will just be a way to get all modded hazards

[mighty swallow]

vanilla you can get from selectablelevels

[distant stag]

yeah i guess but its not guaranteed that every hazard is present in at least one level

[mighty swallow]

i didnt say selectablelevel

😛

[bitter compass]

u cant just go through all levels and store all the unique ones?

[distant stag]

whats selectablelevels then

[mighty swallow]

a plural

[bitter compass]

a list of selectablelevel i assume

lmao

[bitter compass]

i assume you've tried this?

[distant stag]

^

if I were to do this with entities, I would never get red pill and lasso man as they aren't present in any level

[mighty swallow]

not neccasarily a bad thing

[distant stag]

I want to be able to spawn obunga tho

same thing as landing on liquidation, its not useful but its there for completeness and transparency

[mighty swallow]

idk mans your not gonna get a better answer in this context

[distant stag]

yeah thats why I just hold them seperately for now

I mean I guess I could get all scriptable objects seperately and then combine them in a shared list with their SpawnableMapObject for spawning

[last bloom]

Imperium causes the cruiser to not drop in the proper location, specifically it drops somewhere behind the ship

even though the dropship is in the right place, the cruiser isn't

[distant stag]

[manic ember]

a bug thats not really urgent, just mentioning it as i just saw it.
if you teleport yourself from underwater to above water, you may end up with 0 stamina forever.

[modest hedge]

lol

[jovial verge]

whats that collected mod on the right

and clock when dead

[radiant cypress]

eww green interface

[feral sentinel]

🙁

[torn bough]

clearance indicator...and betterspectator

[jovial verge]

alr ty :)

[torn bough]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Aelstraz/BetterSpectator/
this better spectator btw

[torn bough]

@distant stag u did this...

[modest hedge]

brain rot

[bitter compass]

@distant stag i cant tell if im using imperium wrong

i got a gameobject with a mesh collider, renderer and filter on room layer

i try to view colliders of room layer on imperium and its not showing me that thing's colliders

this shouldb e showing me bounds, i think?

[distant stag]

This doesnt work for mesh colliders yet

Only box, capsule and sphere

I want to make more accurate mesh colliders in the future but I haven't gotten to it yet

[bitter compass]

oh

[distant stag]

[bitter compass]

aboutta start teasing stuff through the imperium map

[distant stag]

looks ominous

you could maybe get a better screenshot in the fullscreen map tho (F8)

[bitter compass]

ill try that

[bitter compass]

btw u ever figured out why imperium doesnt like coderebirth?

[distant stag]

i havent really looked into it more

i mean it works but it doesn't show your weathers

[bitter compass]

okay im pretty sure

it was that i was soft depending on imperium

[distant stag]

[bitter compass]

either that or whatever u did last update

or both

last 5 updates*, bongo hasnt used imperium in a while ig lmao

for me though all i did was get rid of soft dependency

[distant stag]

i havent really changed a lot

just bug fixes

[bitter compass]

okie

also any chance ur freecam can make me use my local camera instead?

my shader depends on the local camera :p

my shader is basically one big sphere that follows the camera lol

[distant stag]

wait how did you do that?

i mean it would be pretty hard to move the actual camera around and it would break a lot of things in the game as they depend on the camera position and stuff

[bitter compass]

how did i do wut, shader following camera is easy, since i just made a unity sphere, scale it way up, give it a specific material with my shader and set the position to the camera's position on Update

[distant stag]

lol

you can do that globally yk

[bitter compass]

hm?

[distant stag]

like zeekerss did with the CEL pass

you can add custom render passes

materials or shaders

that apply globally

[bitter compass]

oh i need it to be a sphere that wraps around and follows the player

the shader emulates a huge assortment of clouds

and i send it data occasionally

[distant stag]

okay

[bitter compass]

https://github.com/XuuXiao/CodeRebirth/blob/main/Plugin/src/Content/Weathers/GodRaysWeather.cs incase you're curious

[distant stag]

why do you need it in freecam tho?

[bitter compass]

so i can go up and inspect the data i send way up top

[distant stag]

fly?

[bitter compass]

it looks nicer not to 😔

i was gonna say since it follows the player's camera but i forgor then it'd just follow freecam camera and do the same thing it did before

[distant stag]

couldn't you fly up with the player and achieve the same effect as flying up with the freecam?

[bitter compass]

ye probably, i was told the current imperium freecam makes my shader look weird so im checking that out now

[distant stag]

well the freecam doesn't render volumetrics so thats probably why

at least...I think so?

maybe that was map camera

[bitter compass]

bongo gaslighting me, it looks fine

[distant stag]

why do they spawn in different angles?

don't godrays come from one source?

[bitter compass]

they do

?

whoopsie

lol this porcupine

[distant stag]

lol

ive never seen godrays being implemented as actual meshes

interesting approach

[bitter compass]

they're usually volumetrics?

[distant stag]

I have seen people do it with particles or VFX

but idk I haven't really dont it myself and there are probably a million ways to do it

[bitter compass]

tru

also its nice imperium doesnt suffer from farClipPlane clipping

with decals

[distant stag]

game dveelopment always kinda feels like trying to build something with the basic things unity gives you

or at least what I have experienced so far

[bitter compass]

yep

[distant stag]

the freecam?

[bitter compass]

yeah

[bitter compass]

like this whole red patch is one big decal

it integrates pretty smoothly just because of how decals are

[distant stag]

yeah far clip is set to like 2000 or something

[bitter compass]

i hate the game's 400 value

my decals clip if i go past 250

[distant stag]

i mean it doesn't make that much sense to have it that high

except for debugging

but then again it doesn't make much sense to not have culling at all

but thats just LC

[bitter compass]

lol

yeah

[distant stag]

at least he did LOD for some meshes

[bitter compass]

maybe ill sneakily increase farClipPlane to 500 or 600

[distant stag]

even though some just disappear

[bitter compass]

and just tell no one

[distant stag]

[bitter compass]

[radiant cypress]

why is everyone using the green interface

[torn bough]

its just better

[bitter compass]

its the default

[radiant cypress]

I thought the default was orange?

[bitter compass]

depends how imperium remembers shit

i dont remember changing to green in like the last month

[distant stag]

fun fact, green looked really disgusting at first and I thought whatever, nobody is gonna use it anyways but then nila told me they would like a green one so I did some adjustments and now its actually one of the best themes IMO

vertex ftw tho

and purple

[distant stag]

but yeah, orange is there default, hence why the orange one is called "Imperium"

[radiant cypress]

Purple is obv the goat

[bitter compass]

I thought it was an ego move tbh

[distant stag]

yeah I just kinda made that for myself but I used it too much now

(purple)

[bitter compass]

I cant see purple

Must be an ass colour

[distant stag]

[torn bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245179264794628178/1276918610727665776/old_bird_flamethrower_torch.gif

[pseudo sable]

@bitter compass you could set the location of your sphere in beginCameraRendering so it can work in all cameras

[bitter compass]

Wuts that mean

Just to be clear, the sphere follows the local camera btw

[pseudo sable]

(you may break both ViewExtension and CullFactory slightly if you do)

[bitter compass]

(Yeah 😭 I wish I was able to get big decals that worked fine)

[pseudo sable]

right, but if you want it to be visible to other cameras, then you can have it follow all of them at once

[bitter compass]

Well, setting it to the local camera does that no?

[pseudo sable]

if you mean the local player's gameplay camera, then that's just one camera, not all of them

there's a callback that is called before each camera in the engine renders that lets you do what you want with the world before it renders

that's how OpenBodyCams works, without it that would be impossible

of course you still have the issue of the far plane, so I wonder the same thing about whether you can use a sky shader or something

having to screw with the far plane for things like this feels weird

[bitter compass]

Well, it following the local players camera, wouldn't that show what I need to show to the local player? Sorry I'm just slightly confused here.
Cuz all the information across everyone's clients should be the same I think? Lol

[pseudo sable]

although you could potentially scale your sphere based on the current camera's far plane

[bitter compass]

Ye that's how it works rn, scaled as 0.99* farClipPlane

[pseudo sable]

wait, is this sphere network synced? maybe I need some context lmao

I thought it was just a visual thing

[bitter compass]

It is a visual thing, and it should be synced with how I wrote it, but it's just a monobehaviour

https://github.com/XuuXiao/CodeRebirth/blob/main/Plugin/src/Content/Weathers/GodRaysWeather.cs script incase you're curious

[pseudo sable]

the location is synced?

[bitter compass]

Yeah all the spawning stuff is synced I'm pretty sure

Doesn't really matter too much where the sphere is, but it is used to show the visuals, so it needs to be centered at the player or at the very minimum very clode

The actual spawning of godrays happens on the cs file right next to kt

[pseudo sable]

as I understand it, it needs to be centered near the player's camera, but you were mentioning that it isn't visible to the free cam properly

so why not position it around each camera before it renders?

then you don't have to ask the Imperium author to change anything

in other words, move the stuff in your Update() function (probably should be LateUpdate really) into the callback I mentioned

then it'll be visible on body cams too

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rendering.RenderPipelineManager-beginCameraRendering.html

[bitter compass]

Hmm interesting, as long as that wouldn't break stuff with like overlapping spheres and whatnot randomly ill give that a try

[pseudo sable]

overlapping spheres?

there should be only one of these spheres

[bitter compass]

Idk it's hard for me to imagine exactly what the callback you're mentioning does, I'm trying to figure it out still lel

[pseudo sable]

hmm, not sure how to rephrase it, but hopefully the documentation is clear enough

[bitter compass]

So I'd subscribe to that event and then just write the code I've been putting on Update on it?

Yeah i think I kinda get it

[pseudo sable]

yeah exactly

you can check which camera is rendering if there are any where you don't want it to be visible also

[bitter compass]

Am I able to like access the player with a specific camera?

Incase I wouldn't want to like, do it while they're inside the facility, I haven't seen how it looks, it should be okay, but just incase

[pseudo sable]

it's not tied into the game logic, so no, you'd have to associate the camera to the player yourself

but you probably shouldn't rely on the player's state for determining if they're in the interior, since that won't work for any camera except a player camera again

I would say you should base that on the location of the camera, the simplest method being to mimic the y value check that zeekers has put all over the place

[bitter compass]

Ic oki

[bitter compass]

@distant stag does imperium not do spheres either lol

[distant stag]

Wdym there clearly are spheres

[bitter compass]

yes... but they're clearly not the right size lol

seems like maybe about half the radius they should be

[mighty swallow]

are you passing in a half extent when imperium is using full or smth

[bitter compass]

this is all im doing to the collider lol

radius being the radius of the red beam on the ground

also is there a way to manually update imperium's... update timer or whatever it is, is a bit annoying waiting until 9am to see my collider

[distant stag]

I'm using the default sphere and I've had problems with that before because I assumed it has a radius of 1u but it actually has a diameter of 1u

I fixed it for LoS but I guess not this rip

[distant stag]

There should be a function but idk if it's exposed in the API

Also, it's not really a timer it just updates because new entities spawn at 9 AM

[bitter compass]

can u add it as a button :

:p

[distant stag]

asdf

[bitter compass]

yeah it'd be really nice if i can manually update this stuff lol

yeah i have a feeling imperium doesnt handle capsule colliders well either

[distant stag]

hmm I don't see why capsules wouldn't work except their width

I've seen it working for entities before I think

[bitter compass]

it's probably something to do with how you're rounding it off, i dont think that shape is possible with a capsule lol

cuz the minimum height in a capsule is 2*radius

you've also not accounted for the Direction to be changeable/messed around with

nor does changing the height change your visualisation, only radius changes anything

i need to learn how to do my own visualisation stuff lol, this took way longer than it should've

[distant stag]

lol

i mean if you really want an accurate capsule you would need to manually set the vertices and everything because im just scaling a primitive capsule object

[bitter compass]

tbf this is all because unity cant properly support a mesh collider being a cone

i hate the workaround im having to do lol

[distant stag]

this is like one of a million things I that aren't perfect in this mod, I also do other things in my life than fixing imperium

i can put it on the list but idk when I will get to it

[bitter compass]

you have other things in your life!?

[mighty swallow]

why not

[bitter compass]

i have no clue, a cone mesh collider can trigger OnTriggerEnter but cant reliably trigger a OnTriggerExit

only thing i found about it was a forum from 12 years ago where they're just complaining that unity is ass

[mighty swallow]

from the skimming im doing this seems more like a physics thing than a unity one

you might not wanna use a cone

[distant stag]

why do you even want to use a cone? this looks pretty straight to me

[bitter compass]

cuz it actually is a cone and not like a cylinder, its top radius is different from its bottom radius and it creates a cone way above the sky that comes down and pierces the clouds i made in a way that makes it looks like a cylinder but the radius does change as it goes down

[distant stag]

but how does that matter? can you ever collide with it at the top?

[bitter compass]

nope but there is a bit of a noticeable difference at some heights in maps like assurance where theres a bit of verticality

[distant stag]

you could probably just check if the player is within the center of the circle

and adjust the center / radius based in the player Y level

and you don't even need any colliders ot anything

[bitter compass]

maybe

[distant stag]

yeah feel free and lmk how that goes, maybe its actually really easy and im just an idiot for thinking its hard, you never know

[bitter compass]

lol, ill try my best

[bitter compass]

super small thing but pressing F3 doesnt back out of the menu it spawns

[distant stag]

Yeah, I thought about that but I wanted to use the specific menus (e. g. Teleport menu with F3) to only open and not close

But I want to kinda rework how this works anyways and use these buttons for predefined layouts

Kinda like workspaces in blender

[waxen scroll]

when using two lethal company instances, the windows don't seem to take into account the new screen size and some windows are completely unreachable and don't reset with the reset ui button 😭

[cosmic wigeon]

how can i remove/hide the UI in freemode? I just wanna take some cool pictures

thanks in advance for any responses!

[dawn ridge]

you mean free-cam? i thinks its "L" to hide/open menu, but im not sure

[cosmic wigeon]

ill give it a try!

[crystal sapphire]

i am having the same problem

[distant stag]

I never really thought about that, I can look into that

[bitter compass]

I'm having the problem of imperium existence

[distant stag]

whar
yk you can just not use it if it causes you so much pain

[distant stag]

for the time being, I guess you could move all the windows into the middle before resizing the UI

and they will stay there until you move them elsewhere

[bitter compass]

Existence is futile

https://tenor.com/view/daleks-exterminate-doctor-who-whovian-gif-10468156

[cosmic wigeon]

is this fixable?

shotgun seems to be floating above my dude

(free-cam)

[pseudo sable]

it's fixable but tricky, that's because it's using the first person position I would presume

I have view perspective stuff in OpenBodyCams that can do that and fix other stuff with view perspectives that could be borrowed or optionally linked to if it's important to support that

it could probably also be accomplished by some patches of vanilla code, but the positions of things based on perspective is strewn all over the code

[peak sigil]

Lethal Quantities allows you to spawn Red Pill/Obunga. I don't know about lasso man though

[cosmic wigeon]

how can I disable notifications for spawns? they affect my performance (i think)

[dawn ridge]

@distant stag i have found out that removing the helmet makes the fog look horrible, this is also is present in the free-cam and some moons look really bad with this fog. i'm pretty sure that there's a solution, because there are other mods that remove the helmet and have this fixed

[mighty swallow]

thats cuz the helmet is added in post processing iirc

[dawn ridge]

helmet is a separate model, this issue was also in ModelReplacementAPI and it got patched there, so here it also could be fixed

[distant stag]

Well even if this could be fixed somehow, I don't really want to manually fix things as the intention of the mod is debugging, meaning if it looks bad without the helmet, that's just how the game works

[dawn ridge]

i won't really mind it, but when im making cinematic shots the fog really makes it look bad

[distant stag]

Hmm, I'll have a look

[pseudo sable]

what you need is a quad that sits in front of the camera, lemme see if I can find where I do that in OpenBodyCams

https://github.com/Zaggy1024/LC_OpenBodyCams/blob/master/OpenBodyCams/BodyCamComponent.cs#L398-L407

the material is retrieved here https://github.com/Zaggy1024/LC_OpenBodyCams/blob/master/OpenBodyCams/BodyCamComponent.cs#L196

[distant stag]

Wait so on top of all the volume mess, he also uses a material for the visor...

[pseudo sable]

yeah, not sure exactly what that quad does to the custom pass to make things less visible in the distance, but it does mess with the volumetric fog somehow

I'm assuming it's related to the custom pass somehow anyway

the fog situation is a bit of a mystery to me

but it works in OpenBodyCams :^)

[distant stag]

Yeah, I'm currently working on a visual rewrite mod and it's such a mess with all the post processing that's overlayed

[pseudo sable]

oh? what does visual rewrite mean?

[distant stag]

There are like 20 volumes, half of which are only used for specific effects and never on

[pseudo sable]

just taking the spaghetti custom pass and replacing it?

[distant stag]

More like lethal resonance but for visuals, I am remaking all the VFX, adding more particles, better color grading, immersive volumetrics, more realistic weather, etc etc

[pseudo sable]

eenteresting, I'll definitely want to check that out

think you'll mess with the cel shading and/or edge detection?

[distant stag]

I tried to but the patcher project messes everything up so I haven't really had the motivation to do everything at runtime

I'll see how much I want to change it anyways, as I kinda want to keep the original feel while enhancing immersion

[pseudo sable]

ah yeah, the whole custom pass is really screwed up in editor

I guess saying "mess with" was inaccurate, you'd have to make your own version of it

[distant stag]

I'll let you know once it's in a usable state, rn I'm kinda sidetracked by another minigame mod I am working on

[distant stag]

Yeah, probably

[pseudo sable]

sounds good

I'll probably have to give it a test with OpenBodyCams to make sure that it copies camera settings after you change them, if you end up needing to

[distant stag]

For now I'm mainly changing the volumes which should apply to all the cameras that already are affected by them

But good point anyways, I'll keep track of what I'm doing for compatibility

[distant stag]

little teaser to what im currently working on

[dawn ridge]

you making scraps?

[torn bough]

sigh if only i had custom emoji perms...idk why custom stickers are allowed...:TulipSad:

[distant stag]

you clearly haven't played doom

its a powerup

[dawn ridge]

its on my list "games to play"

but is it a scrap or what

[distant stag]

no its a powerup

you pick it up and it gives you some kind of bonus

im not gonna say what exactly though

[dawn ridge]

in lethal company or doom ._.

oh ok

[distant stag]

both, this mod is heavily inspired by doom as I am a huge fan of it

its a minigame

[dawn ridge]

is it going to use that level maker that you were talking about?

[distant stag]

nope, its separate, although I can see how it might come in handy later on

but I am not planning on using it for now

[dawn ridge]

oki

[waxen scroll]

small request, do you think it would be possible to add a toggle for the modified gamespeed by default? it overrides config from longer day and makes it a bit tedious to run both at the same time LOL

[distant stag]

Hmm, should be possible and is probably not a bad idea

[serene marsh]

Hey, is there a way to be able to see clearly in the interior while in free cam ? like be able to put the cam above and be able to see everything that is going on ?

[distant stag]

are you referring to the darkness?

or the volumetrics

[serene marsh]

uh

whatever make me able to see

x)

[distant stag]

wait so whats the current problem that prevents you from seeing everything thats going on?

[serene marsh]

too dark

[distant stag]

oh yeah, well the reason is that the night vision only follows the player

I had this idea of constructing a light lattice above the interior so everything would be illuminated at the same time but I haven't implemented that idea yet

[serene marsh]

ah shiet

this would be usefull, i need to see properly if thing are rightfully synced x_x

[distant stag]

is moving the player not an option?

[serene marsh]

i got to look at both view to see if something is wrong

a bit hard to follow the xeno, more so when he vent

[distant stag]

right, well I wrote it down but idk when I will get to it

[serene marsh]

no worries

i have plenty of stuff to translate to multiplayer code for some time

[shut vapor]

is that quad damage I see?

[distant stag]

yapp, something in that direction

not 100% sure yet

[shut vapor]

Nice

[vivid mesa]

is there any way to remap the keybinds in imperium=

because when im using controlcompany and imperium at the same time it overlaps with F1 and F2

[jovial verge]

go to normal lc keybind settings

[vivid mesa]

oh wow thanks

[boreal dragon]

@distant stag any chance you could check out imperium on Black Mesa? For some reason it has huge lag spikes frequently and it makes it rough for using imperium when testing stuff

@twilit kestrel and I would greatly appreciate it 🥺

[twilit kestrel]

Seems like it might be Oracle

[boreal dragon]

Idk it's so much worse for some reason on Black Mesa then anywhere else

[twilit kestrel]

might be due to the amount of spawns happening?

[boreal dragon]

Idk I've not had this issues on other spawn heavy moons, hoping @distant stag could shed some more light on what's happening

[distant stag]

Uhh, would probably have to look at some logs or try it out myself

Is it just permanent or does it only happen when something spawns?

[boreal dragon]

It seems to happen all the time, not just with spawning. The logs mention visualizing of something if i remember correctly

[distant stag]

wdym with they mention visualizing?

could you send them over? would make my life a lot easier

[boreal dragon]

Give me a few minutes I'll boot it up and get a log for you

Doesn't start right away, but the thing I saw in the logs typically when it lagged was SPENT IN VISUALIZATION: 0

[distant stag]

well if its 0, it means that no time was actually spent for visualization

[boreal dragon]

that's what I assumed, but it typically hitched when it happened

[distant stag]

there should be more logs about the timers

[boreal dragon]

I think I figured it out, it's spider webs causing the issue it seems

Well it did it when a spider spawned but it's doing a lot better now

Change anything about that on the most recent update? Because I did just update it

On the last version the visualization debug popped up a lot more often

Sorry for the scare, I guess you fixed it in the most recent update? The only lag I get now is when something tries to spawn but it's reached the cap

Lag doesn't seem nearly as bad, but it does coincide with these debugs

Here's the logs for the session, landed twice. All the lag was during spiders making webs or when it tried to spawn something when spawns were full

[cunning sparrow]

I also get massive stutters as more enemies spawn. They start small then get progressively worse, to a point where I can barely even move/look around 😭

[mighty swallow]

@distant stag this is all worthless without profiling but just a heads up (maybe diffoz can confirm)

When your using reflection to get certain field values I think your meant to be caching some aspect of it rather than doing it all every time, reflection can be heavy when used so often like this iirc

[distant stag]

Well I did this before knowing something like an assembly publicizer exists, so I can probably just replace a large part of the reflection with just normal calls anyways

But caching doesn't sound like a bad idea

[manic ember]

just an fyi, lethal input utils seems to suddenly be broken x.x my issue was fixed after disabling lethal input utils (i disabled imperium, and still had the issue)
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[supple blaze]

Is the ability to trigger meteor showers being worked on?

[distant stag]

yeah, kinda

[supple blaze]

alright

[bitter compass]

Incase you wanna do it yourself now, then just go to unity explorer, find meteorshower in object explorer, click on the gameobject then the script, then find the start method and press evaluate

[feral sentinel]

you can also set overrideMeteorChance on TimeOfDay to 1000+ and land the ship

[manic ember]

regarding this, may have worked out why it suddenly started occuring for me.

I normally use Gale for my testing of my mod, which is where i use imperium.

In gale, i use "direct" mode.
yesterday i was using "steam" mode instead.

today im using direct mode, and no issues again, so i guess using via steam mode, leads to things being done in a different order.. and so input utils loses the race?

[serene marsh]

@distant stag do you know if the navmesh being shown gets updated when something is carving it ?

[distant stag]

alright, thx for the report, I'll have a look at it

[distant stag]

uhh, not sure actually, but I had it where the navmesh didn't get updated

it probably only gets updated when landing

[serene marsh]

its okay i found the answers i needed

id need to check if a naturaly locked door carved it tho

but yea doors when locked carve the navmesh

i need to check for the gates

[tepid sedge]

Is there a way to get things to render better when free-camming? I can't see any of the interior tiles unless I'm inside of them, and I feel like I used to be able to visualize navmesh agents, though I could be mistaken about that

Also not seeing any way to increase brightness in free-cam mode

Ohhh it might be CullFactory causing the tile issue

[distant stag]

that does sound like a cull factory issue, lmk if disabling it fixes that

but yeah, there is currently no way to increase night vision in freecam if the player isn't in the interior as well

and even that is kinda limited

[tepid sedge]

Yep, that was the issue! 🤭
Currently testing to see if I can get more enemies to escape without causing issues. The spider suuuucks

[distant stag]

is it different than other entities?

[tepid sedge]

Yeah, the the mesh is separate for some reason. I'm guessing to allow it to be on walls and such, but it's similar to how the blob has a designated center point that needs to be teleported (which I'm also fixing)

[distant stag]

oh yeah, I remember

the insight is also completely misplaced sometimes

[tepid sedge]

Oooookay then, I just witnessed the meshcontainer lagging behind the navmeshagent significantly. Wtf even is the spider 😭

[limber ice]

General questions about Imperium. Firstly—the “kill player” option. Is that for other people also that have Imperium or does that also work for other players that do Vanilla? (I’d hope not but I had to ask, new to Imperium). Me and a friend were bug testing it and it doesn’t seem to work at all. Also! When you revive yourself after dying with Imperium, no one else can hear or see you, but you can still interact. Is this intentional or unintentional? @distant stag

Feel free to ping me when you have the time, thanks!

[distant stag]

well Imperium's functionality is kinda limited when only you have it installed. killing and reviving doesn't work at all if only the host has it
if only you want access to Imperium, you can turn off client access in the preferences

[limber ice]

Would it work for other clients who also have Imp installed? Didn’t seem to work for me

[distant stag]

killing didn't work, even though everyone in the lobby had it installed?

[limber ice]

It was just my friend. The others were Vanilla. Do all clients have to have it installed?

[distant stag]

it will probably be for the best, using Imperium while some don't have it installed is kinda sketchy and I wouldn't recommend it yet

[limber ice]

Ahhh that makes much more sense. Okay cool! What about the whole buggy reviving mechanic?

[distant stag]

might be caused by the same thing

[limber ice]

Gotcha. Okay last thing. This is when I’m running it solo. When I spawn the Maneater baby in the ship in orbit and pick it up, it sort of levitates after I put it down and I can’t pick up anything else after until I spawn something, then delete the object and the maneater.

[distant stag]

uhh thats probably just the game

maneater is weird as its an item and an entity

[limber ice]

That’s fair. Okay thanks for the feedback!

[distant stag]

[manic ember]

i was testing on lan with myself, masked still see the client, but not the host 😮 (invisible, muted, untargetable on both client+host)

[distant stag]

Yeah, I still haven't synced these options unfortunately

[halcyon finch]

Can the imperium minimap be its own mod? Theres already a minimap mod but I prefer this one

[distant stag]

yeah, this was the plan but its not easy to just make it its own thing as it depends on the UI system and everything

[torn bough]

the start of imperium being broken down into multiple sepreate mods...

[distant stag]

I don't really wanna separate debug and testing elements as the whole purpose is being an all-in-one mod

but minimap could also be used for regular gameplay so it makes sense here

[hazy gulch]

Any way to turn off the 69% sale?

[torn bough]

i think that has something to do with disabling quota idk tho @distant stag

[distant stag]

yeah its a weird bug with disabling quota

not quite nailed it down yet

[manic ember]

erm, as far as i remember... its related to there being 1/2 days left before quota.

i went to company once to sell.. scrap seemed to sell for 69% off of its value, and all items in the shop were priced at 69% discount.

I usually only go on 0 days left now, this was a long time ago. cant say it was EVERY time it was 1/2 days.

[boreal dragon]

Is there an option for reducing or removing the cooldown of the inverse teleporter? Would be very nice for testing with interior dev

[jovial verge]

no but you can use a different mod like nicerteleporters

[twilit kestrel]

Would be nice if Imperium just had a button that was clickable in-menu to trigger an inverse teleport on the player

[misty halo]

Wait, what does "disabling quota" mean? I ask because in my runs, we still have a quota we have to fulfill but I still get the weird 69 percent off thing.

[serene marsh]

@distant stag me again with navmesh questions : is it possible to see navmesh areas ?

[bitter compass]

i think navmesh is just on a layer?

[distant stag]

there is a navmesh visualizer, yes

[bitter compass]

might be only on the manually placed ones for that tho

[distant stag]

yeah the navmesh surface layer has nothing to do with the actual navmesh iirc

its just a zeekerss thing

[bitter compass]

fun

[distant stag]

bc navmesh is internally calculated anyway

so it was quite annoying to calculate the visualizer for it

[bitter compass]

how about u catch these hands

oh wait

"calculate"

why did i read that as catch

[distant stag]

lol

[serene marsh]

i meant navmesh area like there is thing that modify the cost of certain area

those

[bitter compass]

oh those

are those part of navmesh obstacles?

[serene marsh]

nope

i manage to retrieve the area cost but... since they all have the same cost it doesn't help me

imma try to mask the playerlineofsight one and see if my xeno refuse to go in front of me

[serene marsh]

ugh i just wanna know if that area layer is used x_x

[manic ember]

I put the area mask in visualisers/log, spawned a masked (enemy) and kept respawning them til they walked through where I wanted them to go, so I could see the area mask using visualisers/log (If that helps)

Don't know if that helps for doors though as I was looking at movement not line of sight

[serene marsh]

im not sure if i understood... butT anyway i learned that navmesh modifier dont apply at runtime without rebaking the navmesh so this wont help

so i have no idea where PlayerLineOfSight is used

i cant use navmesh obstacle either to avoid interfering with other enemy

so imma gonna have to do programmer magic for my thing

which is basicaly the same at the braken : sneaking on player while avoiding their line of sight

but man i am not gonna try to understand how zeekee did it

ill try to do my own method first

[mighty swallow]

the navmesh is rebaked at runtime

[serene marsh]

yes, but lets not do that

[distant stag]

it should be fine, I do it in the level builder and the mod I am currently working on, it just takes some time but I think you can do it asynchronously

so idk about the performance implications and you probably shouldn't do it a lot but it probably wouldn't break the game

[serene marsh]

for what i want i kinda need it to update the navmesh like, all the time lol

this is not the way

[distant stag]

okay yeah, probably not lol

[serene marsh]

that aside, about imperium

i didn't get if we can see those area in different color

and also i have a few issues

when you want to manually type position to teleport, you cant input negative value... or you can but you have to add the - after which is annoying

[distant stag]

there is currently no way to differentiate the different areas

I plan on implementing that though

[distant stag]

yeah ik this is annoying me all the time as well, I need to look into an easy fix for that

[serene marsh]

and also, i have often the need to change my game between fullscreen and windowed, aswell as moving and resizing the window for when i debug to see the log or multiple instance of the game (on the only screen i have)... but it does sometime foock up where the imperiums different tool are positionned, and specifically sometime make them stand out of the screen with no way of bringing it back x_x

[distant stag]

yeah youre not the first one to report this

its on the board, I'll look into it once I have some time

[serene marsh]

oki

[manic ember]

It's fine, maybe I misunderstood I thought you were trying to get the area mask on a node of the navmesh. Gl

[pseudo sable]

it's a layer that contains a couple of box colliders that extend forward from the players' cameras to the first surface in front of them, and there are a few functions in EnemyAI that raycast between nodes of a calculated path to check if the path intersects line of sight and reject it if so

[serene marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-screen-cat-gif-18391018

[pseudo sable]

it's not a super accurate way of determining line of sight, but it works okay for enemies like the bracken

[serene marsh]

i don't understand how it works

but if it can help me doing a similar behavior...

imma take you hostage

[pseudo sable]

the functions:

1. calculate a path to an AI node in the level
2. walk through the nodes of that path
3. line cast between each node and its previous one on the PlayerLineOfSight layer
4. if the cast hits one of those colliders in front of a player's camera, reject the path
5. generate a path to a different AI node in the level and start from step 1

[serene marsh]

i don't get why it is in the navigation areas list tho, you are talking about a classic layer here right ?

[pseudo sable]

yeah

do navigation areas not use those layers?

[serene marsh]

those are not layers

https://docs.unity3d.com/560/Documentation/Manual/nav-AreasAndCosts.html

[pseudo sable]

huh, that's curious

I'm thinking it may be leftover from zeekers trying to use nav blockers then

[serene marsh]

yeah, maybe thats just a leftover from his testing until he realise that he would have to rebake the navmesh lol

bruh

u faster than me :C

[pseudo sable]

ez

I'm on my phone too 😎

[serene marsh]

i was hesitating wih my formulation

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-gif-14895670

[pseudo sable]

I have no hesitation so I can look like a fool

[serene marsh]

still look like you kinda get how he does it so imma ask about this after i eat

[pseudo sable]

I definitely do, I had to rewrite portions of that code for PathfindingLagFix

[serene marsh]

oh so your that guy huh

[pseudo sable]

yeah

tbf though that's my only experience with AI in this game really

[pseudo sable]

is it possible for me to filter items with spaces in them in the Imperium terminal? it doesn't seem to work to insert a space or just mash the words together

oh wait, never mind

for some reason mashing them together didn't seem to work before, but it did for at least one item?

[distant stag]

might be because the internal name is without the space

might want to remove spaces in the search lookup

[cosmic wigeon]

is there a way to teleport my free-cam to my player?

just because sometimes my freecam is in the middle of no where

[jovial verge]

press R

[flat tartan]

how do u hide like marker and stuff while using the freecam
like the blue player icon

[distant stag]

those are on a layer called "Map Radar", you can turn it off in the layer selector

arrows up and down and enter to toggle

[flat tartan]

thanks

[waxen scroll]

@distant stag hey whenever using the save file editor it seems to save values entered as a string despite entering a number

I modified the TimesLanded variable to test smth and it saved as a string 😭

don't think I can fix it without resetting my save either

uncorrupted the save file by writing a custom patch in one of my mods to fix it

😭

[supple rampart]

is there no way to scroll in the spawn menu? its currently impossible to spawn butlers afaik because the entire results for "butler" is filled with mask hornets

unless im missing something

[distant stag]

hmm, someone has reported this before, not sure how it happens

i can look into it

[distant stag]

hmm, I'll have a look, I haven't really heard of this error yet, I guess people don't use the save file editor often

[untold echo]

unsure if this mods causing it but i was checking the eclipsed spawn cycle out for modded moons and for some reason the spawns are inconsistent
7 AM: only outside, nighttime, 3 monsters
9 AM: only inside, 2 monsters

[distant stag]

I am not sure I understand what you mean

[timber coral]

is there a setting that displayes the players current speed?

[distant stag]

I think it should be in insights

like the little panels that you can activate for players and entities

[timber coral]

how do i do that?

[distant stag]

in visualizer window

top right

[timber coral]

i can't seem to see my own current speed with that. that's what im after

ok if i look at my feet i can see it

velocity isnt on it

[distant stag]

yeah you have to look down to see it

weird that its not default

do you have unity explorer installed?

[timber coral]

no

[distant stag]

you can add your own insights at runtime if you have it installed

but ill add it to default for the next version

[timber coral]

thank, because i think that for whatever reason running speed at 0weight sometimes caps out slightly lower and slightly higher, solely making the difference between 50 damage and 0 when running over mines

you can even feel the difference

[distant stag]

try with this

[timber coral]

it's static,doesn't change when i move

[distant stag]

hmm, I guess this is just base movement speed then

getting velocity is actually quite a bit harder now that I think of it

thats probably why I didnt add it

[half star]

Can I use Imperium to change the day counter? Not the days until quota is due but the total day count?

[distant stag]

You can maybe do this with the save file editor

[half star]

What do you mean by maybe? Lol

[distant stag]

well I think its saved in a save file, not sure tho lol

[prisma shell]

Teleporting to fire exits (via F1) can put you out of bounds btw. Encountered this for Assurance fire exit with facility interior

[feral sentinel]

worth noting that teleporting to fire exits is the only automatically fetched teleport destination that places you inside the building

main entrance warps you to the outside of the building

not sure if that's intended but it doesn't seem to be?

[distant stag]

Yeah this is a weird bug that only happens sometimes, maybe I should just add a bit if Y offset

[distant stag]

Well I am just getting the object by name and then using the telepoint location as destination iirc

So it's weird that it would teleport you oob while the base game doesn't

[feral sentinel]

i might be wrong

but it looks like you get teleported to the wrong side of the fire exit door

maybe you just get shoved out of bounds by some funky collision

but whenever i've observed this bug, it looks like my horizontal position is on the side of the door not facing the room

[manic ember]

this may help resolve the bug.

this is what i use for all entrances/exits for teleporting the masked, it sets the destination to be the "opposite" teleport position for where you are (so if inside, it puts you outside, and if inside, it puts you outside), the masked have so far not fallen into the ether using this.

private EntranceTeleport[] entrancesTeleportArray = null!;

entrancesTeleportArray = Object.FindObjectsOfType<EntranceTeleport>(includeInactive: false);

private Vector3? getTeleportDestination(EntranceTeleport entrance) { if (entrance == null) { return null; } //return entrance.exitPoint.position; for (int i = 0; i < entrancesTeleportArray.Length; i++) { EntranceTeleport otherEntrance = entrancesTeleportArray[i]; if (otherEntrance.entranceId == entrance.entranceId && otherEntrance.isEntranceToBuilding != entrance.isEntranceToBuilding) { return otherEntrance.entrancePoint.position; } } return null; }

i guess in your case though, if people are inside, they maybe rather be teleported to the inside xD

[pallid flicker]

Hey just wanted to report a bug on my end in case it's not already known : the imperium minimap has been bugged for some time. It's on top of my character and I can't see anything useful with it. Is there a way to fix this issue ?

[manic ember]

press F8, click and drag, scroll mousewheel up/down, press f8 again, and it should be how you set it before pressing f8 to close (assuming your minimap doesnt change back xD)

[distant stag]

You can also scroll while holding alt to zoom while in minimap mode

[pallid flicker]

Thank you guys for your help ! I had no idea I could change this, and I don't know how it got modified in the first place. It's much better now !

[agile hull]

Is there a way to not render the first person view model when viewing yourself in the freecam?

[distant stag]

unfortunately there isn't an easy way to do that as you would have disable the whole layer

[cosmic wigeon]

is there a way to spawn enemies in a random spot on the map? or will they always spawn in front of me

[distant stag]

There currently isn't a way to spawn them randomly

[wheat turret]

For the teleport options, can we get a button for simulating an inverse teleport?

[pseudo sable]

is this second "AI Nodes Outdoor" option controlling something unrelated? I'm curious about it lol

also wondering if we could get an OffMeshLink visualizer, could be very useful for some of the testing I've been doing

[distant stag]

LOL whats that

thats probably just a copy-paste error, I have never noticed it

[distant stag]

yeah, I was working on that and its definitely on the list alongside color coding of the different bits of the navmesh but I got a bit sidetracked by another project

but its definitely a higher priority when I get back to working on Imperium

[distant stag]

sure, sounds pretty easy, I also put it on the list

[wheat turret]

Awesome

Yeah it'd be useful for debugging inverse teleporting bugs.

[normal trench]

While you're at it, make the hud not reappear when you take damage

[normal trench]

Oh and being able to trigger the meteor sequence would be great 👍

[manic ember]

can we get a button to lock/close all doors.. or toggle the lock on the door in front of us, or something? xD

i know there is a mod, that locks doors using the lockpicker (i think lockpicker advanced...) but yeah, i just think it maybe a handy feature (maybe not for many though)

[distant stag]

I think this already exists in the moon window

Except I removed it again

[manic ember]

Oh lmao, I never seen it, would be so helpful for me right now haha

[manic ember]

sorry, i cant see the image.. i am legally blind.

OR.. at least thats how i would expect to be perceived seeing as i missed those buttons even though i vaguely remember they exist.. facepalms

thanks. 😄

[rigid wolf]

The 69% off bug still seems to be around I see. Is that a mod conflict? unknown?

[oak venture]

69% off bug must be a joke lol

so yeah my conclusion is: actually it's unknown and a total mystery, I have no idea why it happens

:3c

[distant stag]

Wait you are joking

[oak venture]

do you actually mean you have no idea that's there?

or do you mean nothing happened and my messages shall disappear?

[distant stag]

:3

I have honestly no idea why or when I added this

Not even joking

[oak venture]

lmao

[distant stag]

I should start a poll whether I should leave it in there or not

[bitter compass]

Just keep it lol

Your fault if u play with imperium in a serious run

[distant stag]

"Imperium - Competitive Edition"

[pastel inlet]

please add a feature that lets us freeze enemies in place, and make sure the animation that is playing for them is frozen too so when frozen they arent just standing there

[cosmic wigeon]

here is an issue i often face with imperium:

my friend dies, and is in spectate mod through the mod "poltergeist". when i click the revive button in the imperium object settings, his character returns to the ship but remains floating, and i can hear my friend's voice through it. however, on his screen, he is still dead and spectating, and cannot see his own body that was revived.

hopefully that made sense. is this an issue with poltergeist or something else? thanks!

[distant stag]

You can already do that in the object explorer

Just untick the box of the entity

And yes, it freezes their animations, navmesh agent and enemy AI

[distant stag]

I'd assume it's the poltergeist mod, probably does some funky things when you are dead that would need to be manually reverted on revive

[pastel inlet]

WHAT

I NEED TO TEST THAT

[cosmic wigeon]

hello everyone, im having an issue where all of my teminal store items are 69% on sale... does imperium cause this? thanks!

[radiant creek]

yes

[cosmic wigeon]

ah ok... and how could i fix this?

[distant stag]

[manic ember]

disable imperium when actually playing the game, i guess? o.o

[distant stag]

I should probably remove it lol

[warm mortar]

if you press f1 you can untick "unlock shop"

I think that's what causes it?

don't know though lol

[warm mortar]

naurrr it's funny keep it

[distant stag]

[warm mortar]

[hollow granite]

Hey, not sure if this has been reported or not, but I was attempting to test out a moon I've been making and called in the cruiser, but the ship dropped it sort of behind the player ship instead of where it should've. At first I thought I'd goofed but then I noticed all my moons and vanilla moons had this issue, all dropping in the same spot. I disabled Imperium and that fixed it. Testing with just vanilla and Imperium (and dependencies) brought back the issue so I think it's something with Imperium, either some setting I toggled and didn't mean to or a bug.

[desert plume]

is it possible to use this mod to spawn a specific monster?

[distant stag]

yes

[jovial verge]

no the guy above is lying

trol

[distant stag]

[desert plume]

oh I just installed and it does not even load the game

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager.NetworkUpdate (Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateStage updateStage) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop.RunNetworkUpdateStage (Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateStage updateStage) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop+NetworkPreUpdate+<>c.<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0 () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)

[distant stag]

uhh probably some incompatibility?

never seen this error in my life

[distant stag]

doesn't look like imperium is causing it though

[desert plume]

my plugins folder

[distant stag]

maybe try a clean profile

[desert plume]

ok

this is clean

testing

same

maybe wrong version of a dependency?

[jovial verge]

What lc version are you on

[desert plume]

how can I see that

[jovial verge]

Nvm

You are on v64 and the correct version

Odd

I think theres something that you can clear mod cache or steam cache

Try that

[desert plume]

removed cacche folder

same

not sure how to do the steam cache

I downloaded xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-3.3.1

oh I need also https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lordfirespeed/OdinSerializer/

?

[jovial verge]

Yes

Any depencies imperium has

[desert plume]

is an indirect dependency

[jovial verge]

Do you use mod managers

[desert plume]

is a dependency of the network api

nop, just manual download

[jovial verge]

Yeah get it

But i recommend the gale mod manager

[desert plume]

ok works now haha

gale huh?

[jovial verge]

Nice

Yeah

Gale is fast

#1246088342458863618

[distant stag]

gale on 🔝

[desert plume]

how to spawn a specific enemy? (readin the readme while)

[jovial verge]

F2

Then type the entity name, select then enter

[desert plume]

how can I learn this, no mention of the f2 key on readme

https://github.com/giosuel/imperium

[distant stag]

https://github.com/giosuel/imperium/wiki/Usage-Guide

the wiki is still in development and there will also be a video guide eventually

[desert plume]

aaaah thanks!

and finally, is there a way to filter the console? xd, I want the output of a single mod