Imperium

[oak venture]

Yeah, and ModMenuAPI.Plugin.LC is pretty much all the things DevTools had (which the functionality actually comes from TestingLib)

[distant stag]

Are you building your own UI framework for that?

[oak venture]

I'd like to avoid UI stuff as much as I can, so I've kept it really simple

the OnGUI implementation is messy, I need to refactor it lol (it's mostly copied from DevTools, and for that I got the code from Robin)

[distant stag]

I am asking because I am planning on extracting the UI framework that Imperium is built on top of, into it's own mod so other people can use it

[oak venture]

Yeah, I would absolutely love that! :3

[distant stag]

Because I really think there is a lack of good UI systems for unity modding

This would allow modders to easily create good looking and unified UIs with minimal effort

Well, good looking is relative I guess

[oak venture]

lol

but yeah it would be awesome 🩷 :3

[distant stag]

I'll let you know when there is any update on this, as I would love to have some testers for this

But idk yet when that will be, the Imperium feature and bugfix list is still really long lol

But it will allow me to also split the new minimap into a separate mod

[oak venture]

Take your time! :3
But yeah I'll happily volunteer as a tester for it 🩷 (hehe :3)

[boreal dragon]

I may have found an issue. When pausing outside mob spawning, the setting seemed to be active when starting up a new save even tho the checkbox was unchecked. Now whenever I use Imperium on any profile it seems to have this issue. This is the error that's being thrown

seems to be trying to import settings and failing

Deleting the mod and it's config from all profiles fixed the issue

Nevermind, that only temporarily fixed the issue, did it again after reloading a save

[distant stag]

@oak venture @bitter compass alright, I added instant landing, takeoff and travelling to the next release of Imperium

it was surprisingly easy, just had some problems with the transpilers I had to make as all the animations are hard-coded with enumerators

[bitter compass]

Lol

Lovely

[oak venture]

The animations were made programmatically??

also, nice!

[distant stag]

well the ship always stays inthe same position, but there is an animator that teleports it to the "start" position from where it then descends

the same for takeoff but the other way around

so I just disabled these animators when the setting is on

but the code stuff was done with enumerators, i.e. when the "Map Hazard" and the clock will be shown was all "synced" with WaitForSecond calls LOL

also the "unlocking" of the start lever was done that way

so now you can start immediately after landing and vice-versa, it really feels like an elevator now lol

[oak venture]

nice!

[uneven lily]

Sorry for the question but attempting to look everywhere online, I cant seem to find how to activate the mouse cursor while in the menuing. I can spam F1 until a cursor shows up but going into any other menu from F1 causes the cursor to disappear and I cant find it :c

[boreal dragon]

Is there imperium data anywhere else but the profile it's installed it? I still can't get anything to spawn naturally due to that error

[distant stag]

This sounds like a compatibility problem, do you have any other mods installed?

[distant stag]

Sorry I haven't had time to look at this yet

I probably have some time later today

[boreal dragon]

Lmk what you find, loving the mod so far, it's incredibly useful!

Sorry about the other messages, I got my channels mixed up 😅

[distant stag]

Ohh, okay I was a bit confused lol

[boreal dragon]

Yeah my bad 😅

[uneven lily]

just lategame upgrades and the shy guy mod

[manic ember]

trying to move the breaker box to speed up testing.. and its not working the way i assume its intended.

if im facing the wall the breaker is "normally" on, it only allows me to place it "underground" (maybe its original position is WAY lower?)

if im not, it allows me to place it correctly on the wall.. but its not the right way around.. 😄

by the wall the breaker is normally on,... i mean like..

if im in the room with the breaker.. its NORTH of me
if i put it on a wall to the NORTH, it faces the right way, but as can be seen by the "placement" overlay.. its aiming at the floor.

also, was trying to delete some spider webs after deleting a spider.. o.o i delete it, new spider web appears
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Stack trace: Imperium.MonoBehaviours.ImpUI.ImperiumUI.ObjectListEntry.ObjectEntrySpiderWeb.Destroy () (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:0) UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:0) UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:0) UnityEngine.UI.Button.Press () (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:0) UnityEngine.UI.Button.OnPointerClick (UnityEngine.EventSystems.PointerEventData eventData) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:0) UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IPointerClickHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:0) UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction1[T1] functor) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:0)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:Update()`

[distant stag]

Yeah the spider web issue is known, will probably be fixed in the next version

[distant stag]

Well, I didn't really think this feature would be useful for anyone and it was just there for completeness lol, so it's implemented in a very simple way with the same raycasting masks as the teleport for players that is usually on the ground

It's probably not very hard to fix this, I wrote it down

[manic ember]

to be fair, it doesnt matter much, in my case.. im just telling masked to go to object -> if near enough "do whatever" so it facing the wrong direction, doesnt matter to me xD

i think the bigger issue for me is that its "in the floor", because that distorts the actual distance a bit (possibly) xD

[distant stag]

haha yeah makes sense lmao

[boreal dragon]

For some reason, the imperium freecam doesn't show blockers on black mesa

[distant stag]

blockers?

well you have the default layer turned off

[boreal dragon]

I didn't even know I did that, how do I turn it back on?

[boreal dragon]

Door blockers

[pseudo sable]

shouldn't those be in the room layer?

[distant stag]

Toggle with space, arrow up/down to select

[distant stag]

Depending on the mod implementation, usually raycasts go through doors in vanilla so it would make sense to put doors there, I think

[manic ember]

i hate that enemies can see through doors, its so annoying x.x

[distant stag]

haha yeah

they can also shoot through them x)

[torn bough]

nutcrackers 😡

[distant stag]

ngl

deserved

[torn bough]

:unv

no...unverifed doesn't work

[torn bough]

😡

bullet time for LC WHEN

[bitter compass]

#1243163303870726164

[torn bough]

nutcracker is just legs now

[distant stag]

LMAO

[bitter compass]

I was bored

[alpine glacier]

Would be awesome if all items/entities are shown instead of this error 🤔

[distant stag]

when does this happen?

[alpine glacier]

When you use the Up-/Down- Arrow Key in the F2 menu

[distant stag]

ohh

okay

[serene marsh]

@distant stag Hey your amazing mod did me some not so amazing crap
The line of sight gizmos is wrong, it shows the view angle using the "visionWidth" variable while in reality this is more like the angle. That mean the vision angle is that x2.
In the following screen you can see your gizmo showing a nice 90° angle which is what i set it up to be. But i am being seen by the xeno cuse its actually 180°.

this was getting me going cwazy while playtesting, and i think there is some other weird stuff imma try to figure out like why still even in the supposed vision i can't be seen sometime and the proximity thing

also while i'm at it, did you know that the lil hud showing info above entity don't go away if you delete the entity, like it just stay where it was on the screen when it happen

behold the stats !

[serene marsh]

mh yea thats what i thought too, the range is wrong aswell, looks like the gizmo is going 2x further

so does the proximity one

dam everything is wrong here, im starting to think i may have done an oopsy and u did not

[cyan granite]

been getting this error as well, idk if it has to do with modded entities or not

[distant stag]

Yeah, those are currently a bit broken, I thought to publish a follow update soon but a lot of stuff got in-between that

[formal flax]

oh yeah, that's absolutely right
I made the implementation for the mesh generator, and yeah, I did the math wrong lol

[formal flax]

luckily it should be an easy fix, just putting an x2 to the width at the start of the function

[serene marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[formal flax]

:3

[serene marsh]

look at the other thing too like view range and proximity

[formal flax]

hmm
range and prox should be fine
the generator I wrote places the end of the cone at one unit away from the origin, and the tip directly at the origin
the proximity is just using a standard imperium debug I think, so that should be fine as well
it's possible that between my writing of the mesh generator and the imperium implementation that something ended up broken with the range though

[serene marsh]

from what i tested they both look like they are 2x too big

[formal flax]

interesting

[serene marsh]

how did you do btw to implement such thing ? it would be so usefull to be able to draw debug shape thing in game

like if its something not too complicated

[formal flax]

mesh generation is a bit complex

what I did in this case was calculate each point mathematically, using some constants to define the resolution of the cone and the sphere it's a part of

after that, you need to generate an index that tells the renderer with sets of 3 points form triangles

[serene marsh]

i would love another line to be drawn between ai eyes and player camera when the player is being seen

[serene marsh]

f

[formal flax]

ah, for adding a simple thing like that, it's much easier

the cones were highly specific because I wanted them to have the proper curvature and such

[distant stag]

well the input of the prox is the radius, and the resulting sphere's diameter would be that radius 2x

[distant stag]

I will be working on an API that can be called at runtime or by other mods to draw shapes like this and have a lifecycle system to manage them

[distant stag]

that already exists for some entities, you can activate with a separate checkbox

[serene marsh]

well yea, but again, i tested with 10 range and i logged the distance : the length is not the same 10 unit ^^

[serene marsh]

oh ¿

[distant stag]

this is how the sphere is rendered

[formal flax]

ah well that's why the prox awareness is causing issues

[distant stag]

should it not be 2x

[formal flax]

nope

is that using the standard unity sphere?

iirc that sphere has a radius of 1 m already

[distant stag]

yes

[serene marsh]

the value used by zeekers is the range (radius) not the diameter

[distant stag]

oh

[serene marsh]

no need to double it

[formal flax]

as for the range of the LoS cone, everything seems to be correct for that

unlesss

gio the cone is being scaled by the parent transform I think

you set the local scale, so parent transforms will affect the final size

right?

[serene marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-idea-emoji-gif-17531243

[distant stag]

the cone is parented after the scaling and everything so it should not affect that

like if you do SetParent, it should not "apply" the scale of the parent iirc

[formal flax]

the cone is parented before scaling

also its scale is set twice

[distant stag]

where do you see this

[serene marsh]

guys imma send other screenshot later today showing the log aswell

[distant stag]

ohyeah for the cone its actually set after

[distant stag]

is this prod? i probably fixed it already

but does it matter? does the local scale get scaled with the parent scale?

[formal flax]

that's from the current github repo

[distant stag]

okay so the angles on the cones are fixed now but the prox should have been correct as the default sphere is, as I thought, 1 unit in diameter

this would be the new snek FOV

I can send you a pre-release if you want to test it yourself and let me know if that checks out with your testing

[serene marsh]

alright

[serene marsh]

he dieded

oh nvm

[formal flax]

We've done some testing and it seems like we have it fixed now
we tested a couple different LoS types with a bunch of different enemies, and their reactions appear to align with the visuals
I'm not sure when the fix will be pushed to GH and Thunderstore, but a fix is coming at some point

[serene marsh]

noice

[alpine glacier]

Night vision stopped working for me 🤔

[serene marsh]

ye happened to me after doing idk what

also some other mod just straight up make it useless

[distant stag]

singleplayer?

[alpine glacier]

I'm the only person, yes

[distant stag]

do you guys have cull factory?

that makes it so the night vision lighting isnt being rendered

[alpine glacier]

I think so, since some mod depends on it 🤔

[distant stag]

^

yeah thats probably it then

[boreal dragon]

It should be fine to turn culling off using lethal config mid game. I do it all the time during testing

[pseudo sable]

is the night vision light a directional light? iirc, I still need to look at those again

it's probably a fairly easy fix

[distant stag]

yeah, the night vision is composed of two different lights, one 20 units above the map camera with a range of 70 and one 70 units above the map camera with a range of 500

im pretty sure both of them are being culled rn

also, I haven tested this but I thought the isometric view of the map might be breaking with cull company since it sees a lot of stuff thats outside the normal player's view

[bitter compass]

okay wait u seem really goated with all this UI stuff so i got a question

is there a way for me to make an item i spawn, whether by shaders, layer tricks or whatever, make it see-able through walls?

or like an outline of it or whatever

[distant stag]

like a rectangular 2D outline or an actual x-ray like outline?

[bitter compass]

x-ray type outline, cuz I'd want the player to see it from like the other side of the interior for example

it's for a quest-type enemy that spawns a quest item somewhere randomly

but gotta reduce difficulty by showing the player the "general location" of where it is

ideally I'd have been able to emissively outline the item and only make that part see-through

[distant stag]

kind of like this?

[bitter compass]

yeah exactly kind of like that

[distant stag]

yeah you can do this by changing some settings in the forward renderer

and combining this with a fresnel shader to get this glowy outline look

i haven't done it, I just wrote a simple non-transparent shader that looks kinda ugly for the xray stuff I am currently doing in Imperium

[bitter compass]

gotcha gotcha

changing the settings of the forward renderer, is that for like hte player camera?

i was worried about things like that breakig aspects of the game

[distant stag]

I think you need to tell it to render a certain layer / material above everything else

I haven't looked into how to do that in LC yet

but would def be cool for entities

[bitter compass]

yea it'd be really nice, it's just one of the things hidden so far back in terms of stuff to mess with lol

[distant stag]

i can let you know when I get to implementing this

[bitter compass]

that would be awesome

im not in a hurry to do it since I have plenty of time (and im working on a hoverboard with a couple HUD bugs lol)

[distant stag]

for now I am working on this 👀

[bitter compass]

oh that is sick

[distant stag]

as so many people have requested this to be dynamic for their own mod testing

now everyone can add their own variables

with very little effort

[bitter compass]

https://tenor.com/view/nekopara-clap-anime-gif-15209555

[pseudo sable]

orthographic cameras are just assumed to see everything, since the minimap uses that

frustum culling already takes care of whatever can be culled based on visibility in those so iirc I just make everything visible

[pseudo sable]

so those are point lights, not directional lights?

if they're being culled, my guess is that this is attached to a free cam that can go between the surface and the interior?

[distant stag]

yeah, pretty sure, its the default one

[distant stag]

they are parented to the map camera that follows the player

[pseudo sable]

by default one you mean the default light type?

[distant stag]

yeah

[pseudo sable]

the map camera? doesn't that already have night vision?

I'll have to take a look though, lemme see if I can get this fired up

gotta reinstall my r2modman crap on Windows

[distant stag]

I don't remember, but it might, the reason I am using my own system is just to have more control, in general, I prefer to add stuff rather than changing existing game objects to ensure consistency and make debugging easier

also, the two-light setup allows fine-tuning of colors and intensity

[pseudo sable]

yeah, fair enough

I'll have to look at how I'm handling the night vision light on the map too, I forget

I think maybe it normally just doesn't matter because the map shows everything

[distant stag]

that would be really nice, a lot of people have reported this issue and I just considered it out of scope haha

[distant stag]

did you switch to windows?

[pseudo sable]

I'm dual booting rn, main reason why I'm inclined to use Windows for Lethal Company is that it seems like ILSpy is really bad on Linux

I tried out a Linux UI port for it and it just crashes constantly lol

I can technically also use a VSCode extension, but I haven't gotten used to that yet

[distant stag]

yeah same, did you try the avalonia one?

[pseudo sable]

yeah

[distant stag]

yeah its shit

[pseudo sable]

it was really disappointing

I'm kinda surprised ILSpy itself can't work, I thought these days the UI frameworks in .NET were cross-platform

but maybe they're on an old framework

[distant stag]

i am mainly using Rider + Resharper, they work extremely well, arguably better than ILSpy, plus it runs on penguin

but its paid software so

[pseudo sable]

huh, whenever I saw people using Resharper, it looked like it came up with weirder code

I think it was that anyway

haven't used it myself though

[distant stag]

really? I usually get pretty clean and readable code with it, at least for LC, even in cases where ILSpy (and more often DNSpy) have issues with decomp

plus, it gives me IL view, low and high level C# which can be really useful

because ILSpy does only low-level in some cases which can be confusing

[pseudo sable]

ILSpy has an IL view too, but yeah, that's pretty invaluable

low-level in what sense?

ILSpy seems like it's pretty up to date with the syntax sugar at least in the Windows version if you haven't tried that

maybe I'm missing something that Resharper can do better, though, obviously I haven't directly compared them

[distant stag]

this is high-level, it resolves all the compiler magic that happens when compiling the assembly

and this is what "actually" happens

sometimes ILSpy will only have this low-level version that's hard to read

form what I've heard

[pseudo sable]

huh, I've never seen that

at least not without disabling some decomp features

I have to do that for coroutines sometimes

[distant stag]

hmm, interesting, I just discussed this with friends yesterday, this exact code came up

[pseudo sable]

lemme check that function

[distant stag]

but I haven't really used ILSpy or DNSpy because of compat issues, I only ever heard stuff from others

plus resharper is integrated into Rider which is really useful as i only need one tool for everything so i didn't really see a reason to try something else yet

[pseudo sable]

yeah, it'd be nice to have that integrated

VS has decomp built in but it doesn't really let you find references or anything

at least... not by default

I guess I haven't tried to check if there's a flag for that

[distant stag]

yeah, before resharper I just used asset ripper, which has a fork of ILSpy to decode code, and I just navigated the code with global search

[pseudo sable]

looks pretty similar here

oh gotcha

that sounds like a bit of a pain lol

oh Resharper didn't do the string interpolation, that's curious

[distant stag]

its honestly not that bas when youre used to it, it also instantly gives me all the references to asset files and prefabs which is really useful

but yeah, using a proper tool is probably better in most cases lol

[distant stag]

it did, just different

I assume this is interchangeable in the compiled code?

[pseudo sable]

yeah, string interpolation compiles down to that

it's pretty likely the original code used it

[distant stag]

yeah, I guess the decompiler always has to assume some things

especially syntactic things

[pseudo sable]

yeah for sure

[distant stag]

interesting, maybe there is a config to adjust this afterall

[pseudo sable]

for ILSpy it has this

if all you tried was avalonia, I wonder if it's just out of date

I never checked, since I couldn't even really get it to decompile without crashing

[distant stag]

okay I think I mixed it up

it was DNSpy that showed the low-level code

[pseudo sable]

oh yeah

DNSpy kinda sucks

[distant stag]

never used that either

[pseudo sable]

(except that its UX is better)

in ILSpy on Windows, it's very inconsistent about how you open new tabs

you'll right click on something in the analysis pane and it has an option to decompile to a new tab with a shortcut tip saying "MMB", but if you middle-click it, it does nothing

[distant stag]

hmm interesting

[pseudo sable]

wait so you said the night vision is attached to the map camera? does that mean I should see it on the ship map, or where is it visible?

oh, it's just visible for every camera while you're in the interior?

huh, it must be rendering your minimap in a different pass than the gameplay camera since the night vision light shows in the minimap and not the player camera

[distant stag]

its always there but the on/off state is controlled by the vanilla night-vision

so, only activated when youre indoors

[pseudo sable]

ah, gotcha

[distant stag]

will probably add an override checkbox for this to allow night vision outdoors

[pseudo sable]

I think this should be an easy fix, lemme try something

I just have to add these lights to the "unpredictable" list

[distant stag]

really? it should show it in both

[pseudo sable]

that was with CullFactory

[distant stag]

I actually haven't managed to only show the light only on one camera

would allow more control

[pseudo sable]

CullFactory culls for a set of cameras at once, normally it's all the active cameras in the scene

[distant stag]

maybe its because it's an isometric camera?

[pseudo sable]

I don't think so, but I may be wrong

I think the vanilla map camera renders in the same pass

I don't remember for sure since I have to print that out from the event I hook into to get that info

[distant stag]

there is alsoo this btw

its a light added to the map camera for illumination

but I don't think this has a large influence

[pseudo sable]

wait, I thought that's the one that was controlled by the night vision

do you have three lights?

[distant stag]

no, this one is just for the map

yes

[pseudo sable]

oh

what's the other one called?

[distant stag]

currently just "Far" and "Near" lol

i will rename them in the new release

[pseudo sable]

oh wait

I think I saw those, I need to look again now

is ImpMapLight actually functioning? it looks like it's always got a position of [0 130 0] for me

[distant stag]

that might be possible lol

well its kind of broken anyways since I wanted it to only render on the map camera

but I couldn't figure out how to do that yet

[pseudo sable]

the way I'd recommend is using the camera callbacks like what I do in OpenBodyCams and TwoRadarMaps: https://github.com/Zaggy1024/LC_TwoRadarMaps/blob/main/TwoRadarMaps/Plugin.cs#L97

you can also use the light's culling mask, but I moved away from that because that property doesn't actually appear in the editor, so I've been using that to disable lights in CullFactory since it's the least likely property to be used by other mods (that I've found)

and CullFactory will clobber whatever you set

I was previously using Light.enabled, but for some reason it doesn't work on lights in Mansion, and I wasn't able to figure out why

[distant stag]

ohhh, thanks!

i was not able to find the before-render function for HDRP

i assumed its a built-in only thing

[pseudo sable]

yeah, took me a bit to find it as well, it's only a little less pretty for things you only need to do for a single camera

also, night vision works after putting those lights in the unpredictable list, I'll put out an update in a minute

(I do depend on finding your map light by the "ImpMap" name, though, so if you rename that, it'll break again)

[distant stag]

[distant stag]

so this only affects the map light? or also the night vision?

[pseudo sable]

both, but the night vision attached to the vanilla map camera is gotten through StartOfRound.Instance.mapScreen.mapCamera

[distant stag]

alright, I think you can ignore the other light, all the lights that I will add will always be parented to the map camera

its more generic this way too

[oak venture]

About ILSpy and whatever on Linux, I use the ILSpy dotnet cli tool to decompile the code onto my drive and use vscode for browsing it which is really good, and if I need IL code, I use the vscode ILSpy extension

the vscode extension is a little janky, but for just IL code it's enough

[pseudo sable]

too late, I'm already grabbing it

it's fine if you remove it though

[pseudo sable]

hmm, gotcha, I suppose that's always an option if I'm unsatisfied with the VSCode extension

I may try to use that again, but for now I'm using the lazy approach

[distant stag]

alright

so everything thats parented under MapCamera is not culled, right?

[pseudo sable]

rather every light under MapCamera is checked every frame to determine whether it's in the interior or outside

most of the other lights in the game are updated by events, like the player entering or leaving

[distant stag]

so if I were to implement night vision outdoors, this would break again?

[pseudo sable]

I don't see why it should

it should now be able to determine that the lights are outside when they're outside, so if a camera is outside those lights should be visible

(if they're enabled, which currently they're not)

[distant stag]

alright, nice

thanks for this change!

[pseudo sable]

np!

[warm mortar]

that shit look like project zomboid

[distant stag]

haha yeah thats what I thought too at first

[jovial verge]

best debug mode ever

mod

and holy ITS ONLY BETA!?!

i dont wanna know the full version omg

[bitter compass]

The full version includes a singing cactus man car hanger thing

That's it

[distant stag]

[serene marsh]

i mean... now you gotta add it

[distant stag]

I already have an idea for a release easter egg

[serene marsh]

oh by the way now that i remember it

@distant stag do you have learn some stuff about mob spawning when doing your glorious masterpiece ?

especially regarding the vents

[distant stag]

I wrote my master thesis in entity spawning

why, whats up?

[serene marsh]

well, i'm working on an enemy, a Xenomorph, that has the ability to use vents to navigate (amogus see)

and so i have to make sure i am not using a vent that is occupied

and idk what impact it could had on the enemies spawn cycle that is, by looking at your mod, predefined

and may change due to some specific stuff

[distant stag]

so you are using vents and the vent timer mechanic to navigate?

[bitter compass]

Are u not using any api?

Oh wait whoops

I misread

[serene marsh]

nope not using timer stuff : the xeno will spawn like any other mob, but when it decide to vent, it (using programmer magic) enter the vent (animation that slurp it into the vent then become invisible and navmesh agent is disabled) and move simply in a stright line to other vent

so it checks before choosing a vent if its not already occupied

and if so it mark it as occupied

[distant stag]

what is the reason behind this?

[serene marsh]

well i believe this will prevent the base game stuff to try to spawn a mob inside it ?

[distant stag]

well you know zeekerss code...

[serene marsh]

pls no

[distant stag]

unfortunately there is a bug that makes it so entity spawning basically ignores if a vent is already occupied

this has funny consequences

[serene marsh]

then why the fuck is there is "occupied" boolean variable

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-triggered-gif-14949762

ur telling me that if i say to the game "hey this vent is free, imma put my xeno in (setting occupied, enemyType and enemyTypeIndex even tho idk what is the id) alright ?", it may just decide to still spawn a mob inside it and thus, if its worse case scenario, replace the information on the vent ?

[distant stag]

it does replace the entity yes

[serene marsh]

and also... when my xeno leave a vent, it clears the data on it to empty, so if any mob is inside it got thanosed

[distant stag]

there is even logic to ignore occupied vents, he just doesnt use it LOL

probably an oversight

[distant stag]

yep

you probably need to somehow work around that

[silk spade]

seems like a pattern in this game's code

there is logic and assets for many things that are just unused by default

[serene marsh]

we need our boi zeekee here just so we can spam pong him with evidence of his torturing legacy

[silk spade]

all these fix mods coming out recently make the game feel much more alive

[distant stag]

HAHA true

[serene marsh]

well i did a shit ton of debuglog that send every information about every vent every aiinterval

imma iterate a few times to see if it create any concerning issue

...probably will have to make checks at every step to verify that the vent data didn't changed randomly

well thanks for that moral boost ! @distant stag

[distant stag]

no worries, let me know if you have any other questions

[serene marsh]

oh i will be back to torture you with question until you regret making this mod

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-be-back-terminator-police-station-gif-1102374317952270849

@distant stag ❤️

[distant stag]

[torn bough]

❌

[distant stag]

epic fail

[torn bough]

NO

[bitter compass]

I mean he is in this server

Iirc

[serene marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15005835

[torn bough]

don't get any idea's...

[serene marsh]

nah imma not bother him

[alpine glacier]

Bro gets angry, because I want to feed him too much 😦

[brisk bane]

it's the sound lol

[alpine glacier]

Yes... I am aware that the company monster reacts to sound and 200 engines falling make quite a bit of sound 😅

I should've checked where I'm sending this video though, oops 😅

(But still kinda fitting, as I'm using Imperium xd)

[manic ember]

i found that out the hard way.. i forget what mod i was using...but, it made the monster super sensitive to the bell being pressed, or scrap being put down xD

when had that mod installed, screw the bell, just scream at them for fun and they open the hatch xD

[alpine glacier]

Sounds like a really funny mod I could use to troll my friends 🤔

If I had any, that is 😦

[manic ember]

well it was releaed to selling items, i think it was just one that cut the cooldown to nothing tbh. it seemed to make the monsters patience also be cut short as well.

[distant stag]

I love how in every single clip I see of Imperium everyone always uses a different theme, seems like this was a good addition

[rigid wolf]

Well it was working just fine, then after a restart I'm suddenly unable to see a minimap or get any interfaces to open, and when I press keys I get log errors like

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException while executing 'performed' callbacks of 'Freecam[/Keyboard/f]'
[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
Imperium.MonoBehaviours.ImpFreecam.OnFreecamDisable () (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:IL_0038)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinaryBinding.OnUpdate (System.Boolean value) (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:IL_001E)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding`1[T].Set (T value, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:IL_003B)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding`1[T].Set (T value) (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:IL_0000)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinaryBinding.Toggle () (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:IL_0007)
Imperium.MonoBehaviours.ImpFreecam.OnFreecamToggle (UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputAction+CallbackContext callbackContext) (at <d36aff6d6e0b4ac2b3de4bbaad12cf59>:IL_002A)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.Utilities.DelegateHelpers.InvokeCallbacksSafe[TValue] (UnityEngine.InputSystem.Utilities.CallbackArray`1[System.Action`1[TValue]]& callbacks, TValue argument, System.String callbackName, System.Object context) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_001B)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.<>c__DisplayClass7_0:<set_onUpdate>b__0(NativeInputUpdateType, NativeInputEventBuffer*)
UnityEngineInternal.Input.NativeInputSystem:NotifyUpdate(NativeInputUpdateType, IntPtr)

Not sure if any of that is helpful, if this is a known conflict I just was somehow miraculously avoiding before now or what.

I have determined it was the latest OneshotMoons update (1.3.0), I have no idea why. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/oneshotmoons/ Disabling the mod seems to fix Imperium. I don't know which end is actually at fault, but just alerting of a conflict now. For all I know it could be a third mod causing the issue when both of these exist, I got too big a pack because of friends.

and the https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/YippieDev/LethalApertureDunGen/ update. This makes me think it's a deeper rooted problem, with something holding a memory of how these were, and when they are different it all implodes. Might not be Imperium's fault, but it is where I noticed the issue.

Saw some message in passing somewhere earlier suggesting LethalThings could be a problem, I don't even know for what or why now, but that may have been the instigator. I am honestly throwing stuff at the wall and some of it is sticking.

[distant stag]

Hmm, very interesting, thanks for your testing! I am kinda busy recently but it's definitely noted

I will have a look once I have some time

[rigid wolf]

I have found that it was HDLethalCompany also at fault? Or mainly at fault? Look I don't know, it took a combo of 4 mods before it blew up, so I can't say for sure who stepped on whose toes.

[distant stag]

Imperium v0.1.9 [Beta] - The API Update

As so many of you have requested more advanced debugging functionality that can be accessed by other mods, I have started to implement an API that can be used either in the UE console or by other mods.

I also started writing a wiki that should cover the basics on how to use Imperium as well as information for devs that want to work with Imperium or contribute to Imperium.

Added Stuff

• Added the Imperium API and a wiki for it.
• Added minecraft-like creative flight.
• Added options for the ship to instantly land, take off and travel betwen planets.
• Added an option that removes the hold time on interact triggers (e.g. ship lever or main entrance).
• Added new custom visualizer for Old Birds.
• Added new custom visualizer for Baboon Hawks.
• Added a moon indicator to the minimap.

QOL Changes

• I had to limit the possible quota deadline to 3 days as deadlines above 4 were actually breaking the game. Instead, I added an option to completely disable the quota deadline for testing.
• Turning on god mode now restores health to full and removes the damage overlay.

Internal Fixes

• Fixed a bug where spawned entities would sometimes be placed below the ground.

[torn bough]

baboon hawk

[alpine glacier]

And another well done update :3

[distant stag]

Thanks!

[rigid wolf]

Probably already on the todo list, but the weather and moon selection menus really could use a scroll for when there is too many moons to display. Also some keybindings, because those are conflict hell (at least its not breaking the game, just annoying).

[distant stag]

Yeah I only thought about vanilla moons so far

[spare lagoon]

Imperium randomly broke ? It worked fine then after downloading few mods it dosen't work, no signs of it other than in lethal config, even after deleting the mods it dosen't work

[distant stag]

Do you have any logs?

[spare lagoon]

that can do it ?

it the logs after I've deleted the mods

do you maybe wan't the logs with the mods ?

Also the mods I've downloaded were the following:
-Don't touch me
-Men stalker
-Lethal things
-Locker
-Peepers

and this is my current mod list

[distant stag]

Do you also have logs from when you uninstall all the mods and imperium is still broken?

[spare lagoon]

oh, I will try that

Now works

without any mods

I will try to add the mods one by one to see which one conflicts

[distant stag]

so without mods it works again?

[spare lagoon]

yup

annd i've re-added 2 mods and it dosent work anymore ?

[distant stag]

which one

very possible that mods conflict with imperium

i can try to fix it, if i know what is causing it

[spare lagoon]

more company and hdlethal commpany

mods that worked fine before

[distant stag]

singleplayer or multiplayer?

[boreal dragon]

HDLethalCompany breaks a ton of mods

wouldn't be surprised if it's that

[distant stag]

yeah, this is the second report I get now, but Imperium used to work well with HDLethalCompany

[spare lagoon]

?

[distant stag]

even though Imperium does everything that HDLethalCompany does

so there is no need to also have that installed

when debugging

[spare lagoon]

I've tried both in singleplayer and multiplayer

it used to work fine

[distant stag]

because multiplayer isnt very stable recently

[distant stag]

yeah its weird

[spare lagoon]

it's after downloading theses that it completely stopped working

[distant stag]

so its not HDLethalCompany?

[spare lagoon]

removed it and it still dosen't work

all I have is more company currently

[distant stag]

but it works without more company?

so its probably just that

[spare lagoon]

seems to be it

switched it with fairAI and it now works fine

I'll just have to add morecompany at the end

thanks for the assistance ! :D

[distant stag]

no worries

[bitter compass]

i believe hdlethalcompany is just broken in general

[spare lagoon]

and now i have the green smoke of doom

modding is hard man

[distant stag]

yeah, I could probaly export some functionality from imperium into its own mod

or add it to the graphics mod that I am working anyways

[spare lagoon]

Pretty please

I am forced to use HDlethal company because my computer is a toaster lol

[rigid wolf]

Yeah this is the problem I had. HDlethal + LethalThings + Imperium + some other mod triggering it to explode. Not sure what was triggering it here, since either of the two mods that finished it off for me were not in the list.

[muted mauve]

could you possibly add night vision to freecam?

[proper oyster]

10/10 update

flying feels so good

[distant stag]

[spare lagoon]

imperium probably boosted his productivity by 10

[distant stag]

at least

[dense drift]

Im not able to open the imperium menu for some reason

F1 just isn't doing anything

[distant stag]

Are you using any other mods?

[dense drift]

Yeah

A modpack

so a lot of other mods

[distant stag]

Yeah it's probably an incompatibility that causes this

[distant stag]

Or actually, this looks like you have illegal characters in your config and bepinex can't parse it

[dense drift]

my config is default I didn't change anything

maybe something gale did when installing

[distant stag]

Maybe try to back it up some where and remove it so bepinex can re-generate it

[quiet owl]

Very cool mod, I've used it a lot to test out new monster mods to list and gauge what spawn values need tweaking via other mods such as CentralConfig. It's been a real helping hand for testing and I love a large majority of the features it has.

One request I do have is for a display option for the monster's spawn values, such as spawn weight (and by extension, spawn chance), power level and max spawn. This would admittingly only benefit mod pack makers and players new to Lethal Company's spawn system, however I think it would be such a nice QoL to determine quickly what enemy has X power level without having to relaunch the game several times 😅

[alpine glacier]

Changing the weather seems to be somewhat broken 🤔

I changed it to clear before even landing 🤔

[distant stag]

This is / was actually a feature but it was broken so I disabled it a few versions ago. But there is a UI and everything for changing spawn lists and power levels.
With the rewriting of the netcode I am currently working on, it should be possible to re-enable this system

[quiet owl]

absolute godsend if you decide to add it back in

I wish ya the best if you do

[distant stag]

it will probably take some time because I am pretty busy rn and there are a lot of things on the roadmap

so probably i wouldn't expect this to be implemented within the next few weeks

[distant stag]

is this with any other mods and / or multiplayer?

[quiet owl]

considering the amount of work went into this mod, that's entirely fair

[distant stag]

[alpine glacier]

Oh, I think I may have WeatherRegistry installed. Could that cause issues?

[distant stag]

possibly, I have never done any testing with that mod

[boreal dragon]

It's fairly new so that makes sense

It's @tight wharf API for adding custom weather, would probably be good that imperium works with it so people can test weathers if they want

[distant stag]

[distant stag]

yeah, I agree

[boreal dragon]

the repo for it is public if you want to take a look. Mrov may be sleeping now😅

[bitter compass]

Mrovs on holiday afaik

[tight wharf]

I've been summoned

yeah, my mod is paying weather effects and changing the sun during the landing sequence

[distant stag]

https://tenor.com/view/dissolve-gif-18144671279500427383

[tight wharf]

No matter what's been changed in the SelectableLevel, it's gonna use my settings

so a way to change the weather would be to change a thing in the WeatherManager

I will make a transpiler to work with your mod, but that's coming next week in the earliest 😓

[distant stag]

whats the benefit of doing it that way?

are there any things that have to be loaded during landing?

[distant stag]

yeah no worries, so far I only had one report about this

[tight wharf]

i mean

I'm picking all the weathers using weighted system and setting them to levels

and I'm assuming it's still the same when ship lands

I need to add methods to override my picking system (kinda done that with weathertweaks) and individual moons as well

[distant stag]

isnt this done when the day advances in vanilla or am i remembering this incorrectly?

[tight wharf]

Yeah, I'm prefix patching SetPlanetsWeather method

[distant stag]

Wait but that should be fine, what breaks with Imperium then?

is it set again later on which would override the Imperium weather change from earlier?

[tight wharf]

so I'm setting the SelectableLevel weather and saving that in my WeatherManager

and during landing I'm only referencing my mod's values, not the actual ones

so there might be a mismatch

[distant stag]

hmm, interesting

but yeah, Imperium can set the weather arbitrarily, at any point in the game

which probably doesn't work straight away with your mod

[tight wharf]

yeah 😅

I'll make it work 🥺

sorri about that

[distant stag]

no worries!

[boreal dragon]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I'll ask anyways. Any plans to add a way to scroll down the moon list in the weather forecaster? If you have a lot of moons you cannot change weathers on all of them

[distant stag]

This is probably one of the most requested things, I should start working on this haha

[boreal dragon]

Just having Tolian's or Wesley's moon packs is too many moons to fit on the screen😂 using imperium with my pack would not even come close lol

[distant stag]

I'm surprised how well imperium works with random mods

At the beginning I thought it would be really hard but it turns out that most mods don't interfere that much with the game logic and try to re-use a lot of vanilla logic

[bitter compass]

We try our best

[distant stag]

[pseudo notch]

what is the keybind to open the main menu

[muted mauve]

F1

[pseudo notch]

it just dances

[muted mauve]

are you pressing f1 or 1?

[pseudo notch]

f1

[muted mauve]

weird

do you have any mods that switches keybinds?

i remember theres a hotbar one that switches the dance command to f1

so that might be that

[pseudo notch]

I have advance company

[muted mauve]

oh

try disabling it?

[pseudo notch]

I cant

my modpack relies on it

and it worked before

[muted mauve]

just to test it out

oh?

[boreal dragon]

Hotbarplus can change the base emotes to F1 and F2 if you have the hotkey setting enabled

[distant stag]

Yeah, there currently isn't a way to rebind the default keybinds as I thought the F keys wouldn't be used for gameplay, but I considered to support Input Utils sometime in the future

[manic ember]

so finally getting the chance to try the new update 🙂 love it ❤️

some things i want to point out though...

i tried "instant land".. this seems to break masked from being able to enter the ship, i d k why, as soon as i turned it off, the ship re-landed, and the masked walked in, during "instant landing" it seems the coordinates are a bit off as i spawn in a masked and they teleport to a weird place 🙂

I also think in this patch, pausing spawning maybe broke, because i paused spawning, and then im pretty sure a spider appeared, if it didnt happen for anyone else, then it maybe just the spider appeared while i was disabling spawning, and i didnt realise, but i found it really weird!

https://github.com/giosuel/imperium/wiki/Visualizers
on there its Imperium.API.Visualization.InsightsFor<EnemyAI>()
but when writing my method for this i found it wasInsightFor (no S)

[distant stag]

so the spawn position only breaks when in the "instant landing" phase

or does it always break?

[manic ember]

always seemingly broken while "instant landing" is on... and if they spawn away from the ship, they wont walk in either, because thier pathing walks them into a place they cannot escape.

[distant stag]

I am currently working on a complete re-write of the Networking, I will be using the Lethal Network API in the future which makes stuff a lot easier
This should also fix inconsistencies with spawn pausing etc.

[distant stag]

oh, so only when you spawn them in the ship? but in space it works?

[manic ember]

ive seen them in the ship railing outside the ship, i also saw them in concrete at the base of the ladder on experimentation (but that maybe unrelated)

[manic ember]

no, spawn them anywhere, it just seems like the navmesh is moved or something

[distant stag]

hmm, only with instant landing?

thats weird

[manic ember]

like, masked normally climb up the ladder near the back of the ship (at least with my mod installed)... but now they dont, they teleport into the railing or something, i d k

[distant stag]

(I also fixed the API error, lmao mb )

[distant stag]

hmm, I will have a look

thanks!

[manic ember]

yes, if i turn off instant landing, the ship goes back up to start position, and comes down.. and they then walk in, no respawn was required afaik.

[manic ember]

dont thank me yet, i was writing more 😦

[distant stag]

ill thank you again, dont worry

[manic ember]

i seem to be getting this error, only just noticed as you replied, dont know whether its a fault in my code, or what XD also didnt know if it was related to me spawning 3 masked one after the other, and where my code is placed, i put it in my update function.. which repeats after a masked is spawned.

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException Stack trace: Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsightEntry.Init (System.String insightName, System.Func2[T,TResult] generator, UnityEngine.Component target) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:0)
Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsight.OnInsightsUpdate (System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue] insights) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:0) Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].BroadcastUpdate (System.Boolean isSame, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:0)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].Set (T value, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:0) Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].Refresh () (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:0)
Imperium.Types.InsightDefinitionImpl1[T].RegisterInsight (System.String name, System.Func2[T,TResult] generator) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:0)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.ImperiumPatches.maskedVisualization (LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Personality p, LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Activity a, LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Focus f) (at ./Patches/ImperiumPatches.cs:13)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp.MaskedStatusReport () (at ./Patches/MaskedPatches.cs:423)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp.Update () (at ./Patches/MaskedPatches.cs:893)`

it doesnt seem to break anything, afaik, but, yeah, it spams constantly.

[distant stag]

interesting, could you maybe install LethalLib? it has a function that automatically adds a bit more debug information to all the stacktraces to make my life a bit easier

[manic ember]

will do, didnt know xD give me 5, i will repeat what i just did

[manic ember]

ok. so i dont know if this is exactly the same as above.. but i installed lethal lib, turned it on, no errors, turned it off, no errors..

despawned 50 masked (i needed to despawn that many to get it to pop up 3 times lmao) with lethal lib turned on and got this.
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException Stack trace: Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsightEntry.Init (System.String insightName, System.Func2[T,TResult] generator, UnityEngine.Component target) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_000E)
Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsight.OnInsightsUpdate (System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue] insights) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0048) Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].BroadcastUpdate (System.Boolean isSame, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_002F)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].Set (T value, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0019) Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].Refresh () (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_000F)
Imperium.Types.InsightDefinitionImpl1[T].RegisterInsight (System.String name, System.Func2[T,TResult] generator) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0030)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.ImperiumPatches.maskedVisualization (LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Personality p, LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Activity a, LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Focus f) (at ./Patches/ImperiumPatches.cs:13)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp.MaskedStatusReport () (at ./Patches/MaskedPatches.cs:423)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp.Update () (at ./Patches/MaskedPatches.cs:893)`

[distant stag]

hmm

when does this happen exactly?

[manic ember]

as i said, i despawned 50 masked, to get that to occur, it happened 3 times, so i can only assume it is caused by updating the visualizer "while" the masked is being despawned.

i had it in a location, that repeated only every 100 updates, hence, i needed 50 masked to get it to show up xD

[distant stag]

lol

very interesting

[manic ember]

i can redo without the delay between, but im pretty sure its just when a masked despawns.

my guess would be that the "thing" the visualizer is attached to, no longer exists.

[distant stag]

i assume this is not only with maskeds tho, right?

[manic ember]

i dont know, i was only using masked, i think i despawned other things and it also occured, but i didnt double check

[torn bough]

we love imperium

[distant stag]

lol

[manic ember]

so umm, i didnt really change anything, but this just occured. 🤣 spams like mad, i dont know why.

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException Stack trace: Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsightEntry.Init (System.String insightName, System.Func2[T,TResult] generator, UnityEngine.Component target) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_000E)
Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsight.OnInsightsUpdate (System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue] insights) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0048) Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].BroadcastUpdate (System.Boolean isSame, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_002F)
Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].Set (T value, System.Boolean skipSync) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0019) Imperium.Util.Binding.ImpBinding1[T].Refresh () (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_000F)
Imperium.Types.InsightDefinitionImpl1[T].RegisterInsight (System.String name, System.Func2[T,TResult] generator) (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0030)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.ImperiumPatches.maskedVisualization (LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Personality p, LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Activity a, LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp+Focus f) (at ./Patches/ImperiumPatches.cs:13)
LethalIntelligence.Patches.MaskedAIRevamp.Update () (at ./Patches/MaskedPatches.cs:921)`

ImperiumPatches.cs:13 is this..
Visualization.InsightFor<MaskedPlayerEnemy>()

[distant stag]

yeah this is the same error as before

what did you do to cause this?

[manic ember]

oh im stupid -_- i didnt realise its the same as before..

i spawned a masked.. who fell under concrete.. deleted them.. its probably from them.

i thought it was something new. xD

[distant stag]

yeah probably the same cause, I hope I fixed this in the new version, might be able to publish it later today

if I can get some testing in

[distant stag]

is this spammed like permanently after the maskeds have been despawned or just while you are despawning them?

[manic ember]

yes permanently.. i assume its a "me" problem tbh.

so.. what i am doing is..

masked is spawned -> MaskedAIRevamp (an instance of MaskedPlayerEnemy?) is spawned...

when its deleted, i assume MaskedAIRevamp still exists.. but the player enemy is Dead or non existant.. so... your mod thinks there is something to do? but there actually isnt? i d k

[distant stag]

does this not happen without the MaskedAIRevamp mod?

[manic ember]

well its only started occuring AFTER i added my custom values

so... im calling the addition of the values in the UPDATE of MaskedAIRevamp.

maybe i just need to put it later in the update... but i would have thought it would stop if the masked didnt exist.

[distant stag]

i mean it should

idk this error doesn't originate from an update function

its an init function that for some reason is called a lot

[manic ember]

maybe im just being stupid with how i implement adding a variable to your visualizer.

its being called from my update method.. i would have put it in start, but afaik, in start, the values never update.

deleted a manticoil, no error.
deleted a masked (now) ... no error..

what i changed was this.. i added to check if its not dead... but if i should be implementing this a different way, do let me know.. as adding this to "update" is not ideal xD

if (Plugin.imperiumFound && !maskedEnemy.isEnemyDead) { ImperiumPatches.maskedVisualization(maskedPersonality, maskedActivity, maskedFocus); }

[distant stag]

Ah.. 💀

Yeah, you only need to do it once

[manic ember]

ok, im checking now by re-putting it in start.. but it didnt seem to work before. xD

[distant stag]

How did you write the insight?

[manic ember]

Visualization.InsightFor<MaskedPlayerEnemy>() .RegisterInsight("Personality", entity => $"{p}") .RegisterInsight("Focus", entity => $"{f}") .RegisterInsight("Activity", entity => $"{a}");

[distant stag]

yeah this won't update

[manic ember]

it maybe just the way im doing things, is a problem.. because as i said, im not exactly using "MaskedPlayerEnemy".

[distant stag]

p, f and a are just local variables that don't change

how do you compute maskedPersonality, maskedActivity, maskedFocus?

[manic ember]

well they do change.., but not in this function.

[distant stag]

yeah

[manic ember]

but i cant use "of type MaskedAIRevamp" xD

[distant stag]

why not

[manic ember]

ok, maybe i can, maybe im just the biggest dumbass.

one second, let me test this.

doesnt work, nothing displays now 😄

[distant stag]

I see this in the decomp

here its called MaskedRevamp?

[manic ember]

yes

wait

[distant stag]

so you are doing this but with Visualization.InsightFor<MaskedAIRevamp>()?

[manic ember]

yes

[distant stag]

what about MaskedRevamp? the other class doesn't even show up in my decomp

[manic ember]

it renamed it. its MaskedAIRevamp xD

[distant stag]

hmmm

do you have Unity Explorer?

[manic ember]

i have nothing right now tbh, i had to reformat my pc thanks to windows 11 being a pos.

[distant stag]

average windows

well you can just add it from thunderstore

[manic ember]

yeah, it wouldent let me roll back to windows 10 after my mobo got bricked in windows 11... 🙂 so i had to do a clean install.. and that went.. bad.. xD

oh its a thunderstore mod? didnt know xD

[distant stag]

yeah you use it at runtime

[manic ember]

yeah sorry, im just being dumb this week, my pc had everything i needed on it, lost.. literally.. everything, forgot what i lost.. 😦 also lost 1TB of stored data... so been a shit week xD

[distant stag]

can't you restore the 1TB disk?

[manic ember]

its a physical issue... when replacing the motherboard, apparantly i damaged the sata port on the HDD. so its not really "lost" but im going to have to fix the port before i can get the data back.

so what am i looking for in unity explorer?

dont worry, i think i purged my stupidity and got it working.

[distant stag]

LMAO

how did you fix it?

[distant stag]

💀

[manic ember]

wait.. nevermind, stupidity persists. -_-

dont ask me how i reached this point.

so.. in the START of MaskedAIRevamp.. im now calling this
public void Start() { if (Plugin.imperiumFound) { ImperiumPatches.maskedVisualization(); }

which is calling this..
public static void maskedVisualization() { Visualization.InsightFor<MaskedAIRevamp>() .RegisterInsight("Personality", entity => $"{entity.maskedPersonality}") .RegisterInsight("Focus", entity => $"{entity.maskedFocus}") .RegisterInsight("Activity", entity => $"{entity.maskedActivity}"); }

but... Puffr? lmao

im going to re-check your example, as i think ive done "something" wrong still

do i need this?
.SetConfigKey("Entities");

along with the Puffr display.. im getting this error
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Imperium.Visualizers.MonoBehaviours.ObjectInsight.LateUpdate () (at <2ed6dc40b2e64a40bf330371703d0436>:IL_0024)

i feel like i need to just re-add everything you had in your example, as i removed things thinking they would be added to the same visualiser

[distant stag]

Lol puffr is the default name, you need to set a name generator

(it's in the example)

I should probably do a better default

[manic ember]

yes, i removed it because i thought my visualiser info would be added to the one that already existed 😄

[distant stag]

Yeah, I probably missed some default things, I will have a look later today, this is good info 👍

[distant stag]

Yeah, now that it is a different object it's different

Because MaskedAIRevamp doesn't inherit from EnemyAI

[manic ember]

so is there a way to assign it to an entity? because its essentially the same entity.

[distant stag]

You can't merge it, no

[manic ember]

hmm.

[distant stag]

Because it doesn't inherit from EnemyAI

[manic ember]

no i understand.

[distant stag]

Maybe I can add a manual override or something

[manic ember]

well what i was thinking was.. can there be a "As MaskedPlayerEnemy" so it would then be appended to MaskedPlayerEnemy?

like

Visualization.InsightFor<MaskedAIRevamp>() As MaskedPlayerEnemy

? i d k if thats what you mean, but afaik, both MaskedAIRevamp and MaskedPlayerEnemy, will have the same ID, for the same masked.

[distant stag]

Yeah, I'll have to see how hard it would be to implement this

Because it needs to be consistent, so if you update something in MaskedPlayer it also has to propagate to the manually linked one

[manic ember]

hmm.

i think unless others have the same issue or similar issues, you shouldent worry about this. i think its just a "masked" thing for me, MaskedAIRevamp went in an interesting way about things. instead of patching methods to edit, instead patched methods to "remove" functionality, then replaced them in MaskedAIRevamp.

so i think probably i just need to do a borked way of calling it and accept the results. xD

[distant stag]

Yeah it's really weird

[manic ember]

i might have found a solution.. that means no changed required.. fingers crossed..

yup.. fixed.

[distant stag]

How did you do it?

You should probs not use the object name but rather a string literal for the name generator

So it's not as long

[manic ember]

public static void maskedVisualization() { Visualization.InsightFor<EnemyAI>() // Sets the function that generates the name of the object. .SetNameGenerator(entity => entity.name) // Sets the function that determines if the object is dead or not. .SetIsDeadGenerator(entity => entity.isEnemyDead) // Registers the new insight generators .RegisterInsight("Personality", entity => $"{MaskedAIRevamp.maskedPersonality}") .RegisterInsight("Focus", entity => $"{MaskedAIRevamp.maskedFocus}") .RegisterInsight("Activity", entity => $"{MaskedAIRevamp.maskedActivity}") // Defines that this object belongs to the "Entities" category. .SetConfigKey("Entities"); }

changed..
public Personality maskedPersonality;

to this for each variable.. my problem was, they werent static.. i hope to god, this isnt an issue for me elsewhere, but i can just assign it to a static copy of the variable, just for displaying xD

public static Personality maskedPersonality;

[manic ember]

? this didnt work
.SetNameGenerator(entity => entity.entityInfo.entityName)

nor did this..
.SetIsDeadGenerator(player => entity.isEnemyDead)

couldent even compile, so just changed to what i knew would work... i dont think i even need them, as i am adding to an already existing visualiser.

[distant stag]

Yeah I guess it doesn't inherit from EnemyAI

Rip

[manic ember]

im using EnemyAI xD

or you mean your code wont take it from enemy AI?

ok, i think i might just... i d k, stop looking at code for today, something else broke 🙂

[distant stag]

The masked class doesn't, do there is no enemyInfo

*The modded masked

[manic ember]

ah.

also, maybe i wont stop coding, as i think i understand the issue im now having.. lol

[distant stag]

Yeah well I guess but then you can only display one value for all maskeds

Because it's static

[manic ember]

that maybe the case...

which maybe where its broken 🙂

[distant stag]

You could do get component and then store them in a dict mapped MaskedRevamped -> MaskedEnemy

Be cause you shouldn't do get component in the generator

[muted mauve]

erm what the sigma

this happens when i change the weather lol

its not even flooded

[distant stag]

💀

I have never seen that, I know that it happens with stormy noises but flooding

[tight wharf]

HOW IS THAT HAPPENING AGAIN 🤭🤭🤭

[muted mauve]

AGAIN?

WHAT

[tight wharf]

this is the default value of flooding

when I've started playing with weathers I got that on Gordion

[muted mauve]

01901716-78c1-704c-6e9d-597009b42d15

my testing profile

if you wanna see whats happening lol

btw all i did was change the weather on absention

on the first day to clear

and thats all LOL

[tight wharf]

LOL

huh

[muted mauve]

weird ik

[rigid wolf]

If it hasn't been reported, there seems to be an issue with the nightvision going away after teleporting, not sure if any teleport or just the quick point one. Specifically the nightvision slider seems to just not work anymore. At least this has been my limited experience with whatever mods I'm running and the 3 times it happened (everytime I tried it)

[distant stag]

Yeah I think this is because night vision only works inside and when you teleport randomly, it's really hard to tell if youre inside or not

[tight wharf]

okay, i need to make a confession

i haven't used your mod before

it's amazing

holy shit i did not expect that it's sooooooo good

[distant stag]

appreciate it!

[warm mortar]

imperium has carried biod testing so hard lmao

top 5 mods of all time

[distant stag]

(what's biod? 😅)

[torn bough]

biodiversity maybe

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm mortar]

upcoming enemy mod!

[warm mortar]

yea heheh

[distant stag]

👀

Ohh

Exciting!

[bitter compass]

first time using imperium

@distant stag is there a way to stop the player from being hidden in freecam when getting close?

i kinda wanna get closer than 3 feet away lol

[distant stag]

yeah this is an LOD issue with unity, its on the bug list but not very high priority

I can look into it for the new release later today if I have some extra time

[bitter compass]

okie ty

[distant stag]

=) (don't get too used to the UI, huge rework coming soon)

[bitter compass]

okie

[bitter compass]

@distant stag

the minimap somehow made things look a lot cooler lmao

it's a really smooth minimap, i love it

[distant stag]

HAHAHA omg this is awesome!

what's that mod?

[bitter compass]

that's the next update for #1241786100201160784 lel

i dont know what to really add to the tornado otherwise i would've done more than just pulling the player in lol

[bitter compass]

gonna be today if i can think of anything more to add to tornado etc

cant*

[distant stag]

omg I love it! how did you create that tornado? VFX pipelines?

it looks really good

[bitter compass]

nah just like 200 particles?

[distant stag]

damn impressive what you can do with legacy particle systems

never really used them

[bitter compass]

made some meshes, then some materials, then just stuck em together in a weird prefab

well it's not legacy i think? its just particle systems as they are, i wanna learn VFX but it looked hard lol

[distant stag]

maybe moving around? :D

[bitter compass]

i need to replace the meteor shower particles with VFX particles

[bitter compass]

oh i already stuck a navmesh agent to em, they move around to different nodes like enemies do lol

[distant stag]

idk I heard the particles being referred to as legacy as VFX pipelines are kinda the replacement for them

but probably not really legacy

[distant stag]

this is great

[bitter compass]

afaik VFX just makes use of the gpu instead of the cpu, which does just sound like a better replacement

[distant stag]

yeah, plus its a lot easier and more dynamic

you can do some crazy things

well easier, not necessarily I guess, depending if you have done node-based procedural generation before

like shader graph

[bitter compass]

unfortuantely not! lol, i was making the tornado out of a shader graph at first, but then got stuck with some weird emission stuff and it didnt really look that good

so i just settled on using mobile particle stuff

[distant stag]

well it works and it doesnt seem to lag, really

[bitter compass]

oh yeah 100%, it's only like an active amount of 200 particles at once

the meteor shower on the other hand...

wel there might be like 10k+ particles going on at any point in time, which is why I REALLY need to switch to VFX

[distant stag]

haha yeah

idk VFX pipelines are really impressive

they can render millions of particles with collision and physics and everything without impairing performance somehow

well at least I tried some of it in LC

[dawn ridge]

could you make the volumetric fog render in freecam?

[feral sentinel]

there is some sort of bug with imperium causing challenge moon modifiers to be set incorrectly

this week's challenge moon sets the increased indoor monster spawn to mask hornets if you have imperium enabled

even though mask hornets (ButlerBees) dont spawn on march (or on any other moon, for that matter)

with imperium disabled it increases spore lizard (Puffer) spawn rate

[distant stag]

Hmmm, interesting, I thought I have fixed this issue but I will look into it later today

[manic ember]

the pink lines coming out of the back of the head = ?

i only have "vision" turned on, but the fact the lines come out of the back of the head make me wonder wtf xD i realise there is lines from the feet too.. just trying to understnad if this is a bug... or my coding is whack ;o

also, baboon hawks seem to be able to track me even while invisible/muted, i can only assume they have special code breaking that feature.. lmao

[distant stag]

yeah baboon hawks are specia, I haven't patched those functions yet

[distant stag]

I think this is on your side, considering the vanilla things work, those are 2 different functions

one where you probably set the eye as origin and one where the entity itself is the origin

idk why its backwards tho

[manic ember]

well, if its what i think it is.. i set the "angle" as "160".

but 160 is less than 180.. so it should be a forward facing cone.. UNLESS the masked are treat as having 2 seperate eyes.. with a range of 160... = like.. 120+120 with a 40 crossover directly in front?.. which would then mean.. 240 degree vision.. leaving 120 that isnt seen = the back 120.. i guess thats an explanation xD

[distant stag]

you can visualize angles > 180 without problems

they will look like partial spheres

[manic ember]

well, i mean.. a specific function..

[distant stag]

like this

[distant stag]

have you tried with the normal maskeds?

[manic ember]

not recently, but i only saw this since your recent update, so thought id ask.

these are the functions.. got this

__instance.CheckLineOfSightForClosestPlayer(70f, 50, 1, 3f);

70f is the angle there.. default is 45... that should both be fine.

but i also have this..

__instance.CheckLineOfSightForPosition(pos, 160f, 40, -1, null);

^ this one, i know i added, but i added it a long time ago.. its probably this.. i guess your mod is going to help me understand this better, lmao xD

[distant stag]

hmmm very interesting

try turning off smooth animations

[manic ember]

? is that a setting in your mod?

[distant stag]

yes on the bottom left

in visualizers

[manic ember]

ah, had it on.. changine the angle to 70f "fixed it", i think on the masked.. the 70f is doubled or something

looks more like 170 degrees.

[distant stag]

only on masked?

[manic ember]

i dont know, not set a view angle for any other mob yet, i was starting to look at the bracken, but the weird graphic was irritating me, glad i asked now, they probably had a VERY high amount of vision compared to what they should, lol

[distant stag]

yeah the cones are weird when you stand inside of them

[manic ember]

well i didnt know i was standing inside it.. i just thought it was coming out the back of their head ;o

also, just realised the function comes from enemyAI.. so might be all AI that have "two eyes"

[distant stag]

wdym two eyes?

[formal flax]

Zeekers treats the "angle" parameter as half of the angle of the cone because it makes the math easier, so an angle of 160 will be treated like 320 instead

[formal flax]

Old birds are likely similarly broken, but they do use the standard functions once they enter chase mode, so they'll act like you instantly disappeared

[manic ember]

ah, makes sense, thats roughly what i was thinking.

[formal flax]

It has to do with them seeing IVisibleThreats, which the game has no standard function for
Instead zeekers has implemented it manually both fimes

[manic ember]

so for 120 angle, i want 60f, thanks.

[formal flax]

Ye

np

Are you using the cone function directly or just the LoS stuff?

[manic ember]

its weird how, when i tested.. 120f seemed like they had a blind spot xD

[manic ember]

im just checking for line of sight on some occaisions, i havent modified the vanilla functionality, and as far as i know piggy never did aside from disabling the LoS function to replace with the one i know about.

[formal flax]

Ok, nice
The wording made it seem like you might be using the imperium internal functions to generate and render a cone yourself lol
The cone generator currently uses the half angle just as the game expects, but I'm doing a rework of the generator rn that'll make it take in a proper angle instead and double it when calling the function

The rework should also fix up some of the visual bugs, and will also lay the groundwork for dynamically generated capsules so that they don't show up weirdly stretched

[manic ember]

ah, nah, i was just baffled as to why the cone showed weird when using imperium, i just figured i had done something wrong without realising ;o and i was right.

[distant stag]

speaking of capsules

[formal flax]

ooo nice

[torn bough]

will interior picker be added?

or not possible

[distant stag]

for moons?

like when youre in the ship

[torn bough]

yes

[distant stag]

idk seems kinda hard

to just override the layout once

[formal flax]

it'd also require specific implementations with LLL and other interior loaders so that they don't override it

[distant stag]

true

[untold jay]

how to hide minimap?

[tight wharf]

M

[untold jay]

thanks

[jovial verge]

dev should add a little text that shows you the keybind when you load in to hide minimap if people don’t like it since I believe you cannot view the keybind (sorry if im wrong)

[formal flax]

yeah
at the very least the keybinds should integrate with Input Utils or smth so you can see them in settings and reconfigure them if you need to

[jovial verge]

That would be great

so i could change Teleport keybind (i use T as my scan because im a mousepad player, dont ask)

[distant stag]

very soon

[formal flax]

:3

[jovial verge]

yoey

[torn bough]

uh oh...

[radiant cypress]

am I stupid or can I not go past the butler bees to spawn a butler

[distant stag]

@coarse kernel didn't you have this exact issue

[radiant cypress]

why are there even 6 mask hornets?

[distant stag]

It shouldn't be like that lol, I haven't experienced this myself but I got a similar report earlier today

[radiant cypress]

It might be other mods messing with it

but is there no way to scroll down to get to the 3 more results?

[distant stag]

Nope, never thought about this

It shouldn't be a problem if they are all called differently

I sounds like a mod incompatibility

[radiant cypress]

I'm just gonna use another mod to spawn butlers in then, it's probably because of the 130 other mods in the modpack im testing

but everything else works fine, this mod is amazing

[distant stag]

Thanks!

Do you have any logs?

[radiant cypress]

Never had to send logs before, where do I find them?

[distant stag]

In the bepinex folder there's a file called LogOutput.txt

[radiant cypress]

what am I looking for exactly? (sorry for delayed responses)

[formal flax]

r2modman/thunderstore > choose your profile > settings > click "Browse profile folder" > Open the BepInEx folder > Send LogOutput.log

[radiant cypress]

well this is filled to the brim with crap, but here ya go

[formal flax]

oh wow, 83MB is a huge log file

[radiant cypress]

yeah it keeps saying error something about the piggy mod over and over again

[formal flax]

PiggyVarietyMod is spamming the game with errors

[radiant cypress]

its working fine tho

[formal flax]

so far
and also causing a bunch of lag from spamming the logs

[radiant cypress]

hm I see, I will delete it then

I'll send another log without the piggy mod hold on

[formal flax]

is more emotes installed?

that error indicates either a missing dependency, or that the mod is outdated

[radiant cypress]

oh yeah it uses Runtime netcode patcher which is deprecated, but the mod still works fine

[formal flax]

there's definitely a major issue if it's erroring that much

it could also be stopping other mods from working that patch the same function it does

[radiant cypress]

well darn, thanks for helping me find theese issues. Never knew I had them

[formal flax]

I'd recommend trying to reach out to the dev and see if they have any idea what's going on

also, SanityRemastered is bugged. It's trying to access asset bundles from the wrong location

I'm also seeing that something depending on CSync is trying to access data that doesn't exist

Diversity isn't loading because LCCutscene isn't installed

[radiant cypress]

I thought deleting LCCutscenes would make it less impactful because I don't use the cutscenes anyways 😭

so mayn things wrong with my modpack

I really appreciate the help thank you

[formal flax]

I also see a bug with YippeeKey

it looks like a mod might be messing with LethalLevelLoader

[radiant cypress]

oh dear

[formal flax]

Starlancer Escape is struggling

[radiant cypress]

well that's what I get for having 100+ mods

[formal flax]

I've seen people with a lot of mods like that before, but it takes some work to figure out which ones are compatible and which ones are buggy

LethalThings's FishFriend is erroring

[radiant cypress]

what is a fishfriend what

[formal flax]

no idea

[radiant cypress]

heres logoutput v2

without the things that caused all those errors

[formal flax]

still grabbing more rq

MaskedAIRevamp

Lethal Presents

ok so

I don't think any of these are the core issue since they're all having similar issues

[radiant cypress]

Just realised oneshot moons was also cluttering up the logs because it kept trying to play a nonexistant audio clip

[Warning: Unity Log] PlayOneShot was called with a null AudioClip.

[formal flax]

that error doesn't tell us which mod caused it

PlayOneShot is a generic function

whatever mod is causing the issue, it's hard to tell from the logs

I'd recommend removing mods until there's no more Exceptions in the logs and everything seems to be working, then try adding stuff back in until you find the mod one that, when enabled, breaks things

[radiant cypress]

yeah the good old process of elimination seems to be the only thing to find the culrpit, still thanks for everything, I'll see if I can find the mod thats causing it

[formal flax]

good luck

:3

[alpine glacier]

Will there at some point be a way to list all items and entities?

Can be useful sometimes

[distant stag]

List? Wdym

[spare lagoon]

Like a whole list of all the items and monsters

[sinful delta]

Doesn't that already exist in the Objects tab? Or am I dumb?

[distant stag]

yeah, I am not quite sure about this request

I assume a list of all the entities and scrap that exist in the game?

[sinful delta]

Maybe he means in the spawny thingy

yeah

[distant stag]

but thats already in the spawn UI, right?

you can search for it

[sinful delta]

Maybe it would be useful if you don't know the exact name of the entity/item, or just want to search and click on a list/grid of some sort to spawn it

[distant stag]

well there will be a spawn list UI later

where you can change all the spawn data of items

so I guess that will double down as a list of all objects

[sinful delta]

Oh nice, didn't know that

[distant stag]

well it was there at some point and then I removed it because it wasn't working

I will re-add it at some point

[sinful delta]

Cool! Also you've probably heard this a lot before, but this mod is really, really good! Quite useful, in my case for practice and testing modpacks before sharing with friends

[distant stag]

thanks! appreciate it

[torn bough]

lmao

[waxen scroll]

is there any way to add a second column of moons for imperiums moon travel display? our modpack has too many to display at once and the rest are cut off 😭

same question with the weather forecaster

[torn bough]

gio said he will add a slider soon idk when soon is tho

[distant stag]

Yeah both of this is fixed in the next version

Just a matter of releasing it now

[waxen scroll]

awesome, tysm

‼️

[distant stag]

[tender orchid]

Hey uh kinda dumb question but how do i open the menu?

[tender orchid]

@distant stag

[radiant creek]

f1

[tender orchid]

K appreciate it

[tender orchid]

Onother problem

My mouse isnt visible when I open the menu

[tender orchid]

Can u help?

[normal trench]

Had that too, fixed it by uninstalling minimap mod

alternatively, actively moving your mouse when opening the menu makes it visible

[tender orchid]

Ye i uninstalled it and it worked it appreciate it

[distant stag]

Yeah, the minimap mod is and will never be compatible with Imperium

but you can use the built-in minimap instead

[alpine glacier]

Btw... I find it very funny that you can die in orbit with god mode disabled 😅

[distant stag]

Wdym? Isn't that supposed to happen?

Or you mean die by shotgun and stuff

[alpine glacier]

Nope 😅

You're supposed to be completely immortal in orbit 🤔

Died a few times 'cause of fall damage 😅

[distant stag]

LOL

When you start a lobby or only after landing and taking off?

[alpine glacier]

Both

[distant stag]

lol this has gone unnoticed for a long time

fixed it

[alpine glacier]

Thanks :3

[distant stag]

thank YOU

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[tall bough]

is there a way to go to the test room