BepInEx Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher

[thin perch]

only affecting disabled/uninstalled mods or mods that have modified their asset bundle in an update

so existing mods that have not changed at all will not have their cache deleted

[unborn adder]

ah ok, good to know. thanks!

[thin perch]

man when LLL moons can finally be cached by this.. i wonder how big they're gonna be

[thin perch]

noticed morecompany cosmetics dont get cached.. is this an issue similar to LLL where it loads the asset bundles differently?

nvm its there.. it just labeled differently than i thought

[barren ridge]

Ohh, so it's not like all the cache will be deleted, only the unused one

[thin perch]

yes

[barren ridge]

Aaaa, so I misunderstood there. Thanks for the enlightenment

[livid obsidian]

if I update mods, do I need to delete cache or something, or I leave it as it is

[upper wadi]

leave as it is

[livid obsidian]

when I host a game my, I have no sounds, but when I reload the save I have sound, is it possible to be from this mod

[grand coral]

I don't think so cus I haven't had this problem

[livid obsidian]

I have the loaf api and custom sounds

[grand coral]

probs a bug with CustomSounds then

[livid obsidian]

It was Remnants mod

[boreal knot]

is there any known incompatibilities?

[plucky stump]

nope

[solemn tangle]

Oh yea?

Name every single compatibility then.

[plucky stump]

sure

[solemn tangle]

oh shit they came with the source

https://tenor.com/view/gta-oh-no-gameplay-video-game-cj-gif-17762166

[plucky stump]

Pushing v0.2.0:

Changed

• Decompression is now happens in background (probably this will cause some crashes while loading the game, will see)
• Decompression thread priority is now Normal, so less CPU usage while loading the game.
• AssetBundle loaded via stream (so LLL moons) are now cached.

[solemn tangle]

LLL MOONS

https://tenor.com/view/jankyrondo-jankyrondo-jump-guy-jumping-reaction-guy-jumping-match-guy-jumping-off-chair-live-gif-11791436945084946417

FREE CRASHES

YESSIR

[plucky stump]

wait let me cook really quick 0.3.0

[boreal knot]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[plucky stump]

Pushing v0.3.0:

Changed

• Cache folder is now global

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

[grand coral]

Yoooooo let's go

That's so great for exporting mod packs

[plucky stump]

Cache folder is now here: %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company\

[solemn tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-gif-23482520

[keen plaza]

Is there a reason for this? Several of my friends have space limitations on their C:/ drive, and so they switched r2modman's data folder out of appdata to a directory on a drive that had more space. This was a convenient place for the several gigabytes of cache from this mod.

[plucky stump]

the reason to move cache folder is because of modpacks.

If C drive is really no space for caching then learn about Symlinks

[boreal knot]

ooo so using code can also transfer cache too thats great

[boreal prawn]

I'm in the same boat C drive is a no no

[plucky light]

same

[plucky stump]

I mean I'm also

[boreal prawn]

any way to make it optional ?

[plucky stump]

only when I make config file

[boreal prawn]

ok nice

i'll keep v2 until you do it then ! thank you

[keen plaza]

So long as it is an option to root the directory in the mod manager's data directory, as opposed to directly setting the cache directory in the mod's config since that would require players to edit their own cfg every time they import an update to the modpack to their profile.

An important aspect of my modpack for me is easy redistribution (they copy the profile code and they load up the game). I don't know that it's feasible to try to explain how to symlink to anyone i would potentially distribute the modpack to...?

We only figured out this was an issue for some people because someone tried to install the modpack and their computer started lagging out and crashing, and only then they realized that they had run out of space.

For context, in their particular case, some older prebuilt computer systems use an older SSD for their C:/ with 128Gb or less for the operating system and system programs, in combination with a hard drive that has more space which is used the most for games and the vast bulk of their storage. In a lot of these cases, they have less than 10Gb free on C:/ which spells trouble for the amount of cache that is stored by this mod.

[vast glade]

It would be a little nasty, but what about caching in the game's folder, so it hits the same drive the game is installed to?

[sullen igloo]

When using GeneralImprovements with this, If GI is set to select Online on game start, the game crashes

using the most recent version of this mod

[grand coral]

I recommend to stop intro skipping anyways

It causes more problems than anything else

[heavy scarab]

I join all those who requested it above

I have less than 7 GB on C: right now

☠️

[sullen igloo]

I had no issues with the autoselection before, I don't skip the bootup animation

[frosty meadow]

https://superuser.com/questions/386018/pointing-folder-to-different-disk

[heavy scarab]

Are you sure that symlinking appdata not gonna break entire windows? 😄

[frosty meadow]

well, is this mod putting it inside the ZeekersRBLX/LethalCompany directly or inside another dir?

becuase you could easily just link that dir

Cache folder is now here: %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company\

oh

if you need to link whole Lethal Company there could be problems

if other dir, all will be bueno

[sullen igloo]

Waiting for LLL to load assets is now the main bottleneck for me when starting up 😂

[grand coral]

I'm noticing the newest update is causing me issues

Crashed on startup once, some mods not loading properly and crashing when trying to quit out of the main menu once

I'm gonna disable it

v0.2.0 was fine btw

this has all started after the global update

[thin perch]

“- Decompression is now happens in background (probably this will cause some crashes while loading the game, will see)”

now we see

[grand coral]

As I said

v0.2.0 was problem free

[thin perch]

lunx got hit with it 😔

[grand coral]

It's the changing to global location in v0.3.0 that's causing problems

[thin perch]

maybe because before it didn’t really have to decompress anything from scratch since it wasn’t global yet

the cache already existed

with the folder location changed, it actually had to decompress a new cache folder from scratch

[sullen igloo]

v0.2.0 Doesn't crash when using GI to autoselect Online. I am assuming the crashing on v0.3.0 is related to the one @grand coral is having. GI selecting Online doesn't skip anything just autoselects the menu option, so it shouldn't be causing a crash

[grand coral]

@plucky stump Might be worth reverting the change in 0.3.0 for now or looking into why it's breaking the game

Yeah I think I'm gonna take this out of my pack for now 0.2.0 is giving me some issues now too

[sullen igloo]

Like what?

[grand coral]

The mods not loading properly on launch issue with a broken main menu again

Also console error spam

[sullen igloo]

I haven't had any issues the few times I started the game up with v0.2.0

[sullen igloo]

What do you mean by broken main menu?

[brittle herald]

Why am I always the only one who doesn't have any common issues lmao

I updated the mod and everything works fine

[sullen igloo]

I mainly had the issue with the GI selecting Online

[grand coral]

Quite literally a broken main menu

Lethal Config missing

Version number saying

V5

[sullen igloo]

Not had that

[plucky light]

When I first launched the game on a new modpack (v0.20) lethal resonance, more company, and I think lethal config also didn't load

Next time I opened the game though it worked

[grand coral]

I'm just gonna keep it on 0.1.0

That one doesn't cause mods to break or throw errors on game launch

[sweet wigeon]

is there a problem with this mod?

[brittle herald]

Have you tried deleting all the cache before updating

[grand coral]

Didn't help

[sullen igloo]

I have no issues with v0.2.0 but @grand coral does. I'd just test it out and see if it crashes for you

[grand coral]

Check your logs some mods throw errors about assets

on 0.2.0 and 0.3.0

[brittle herald]

It did for me only the first time because it couldn't find the cached assets

second time didn't have any errors because it created them again

[sweet wigeon]

It did say failed to load asset

something about more company

[solemn tangle]

Having the same issue dawg

Cleared my assets

had issues loading and people joining

downgraded to 2.0

had same issues

just gonna disable for now

[grand coral]

Yeah

[solemn tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

[sweet wigeon]

strange. I think MoreCompany failed to load as there isn't a logo replacement like there should be right

[grand coral]

I just recommend disabling til a fix is done

[sweet wigeon]

confirmed it failed to load

yeah

[grand coral]

or reverting to 0.1.0

[solemn tangle]

reverting to 0.0.0

should fix all issues

[grand coral]

@plucky stump assuming the issues happening with 0.2.0 and 0.3.0 are related to the background decompression, is it possible a config could be added with an option that has it set to false by default since it seems like it's a bit too experimental currently?

[plucky stump]

Pushing v0.3.1:

Fixed

• Silly check if file is closed caused assetbundle loading to fail 😛

[thin perch]

file is locked?

[grand coral]

Is that what was causing all the problems earlier?

👀

[plucky stump]

yeah

[grand coral]

Oof

[plucky stump]

I changed so Unity can read the original bundle

4gb of cache

[granite ravine]

unfortunately btw i might not be able to unload all the bundles i want to

cant unload scene bundles and also can't unload bundles the scene bundle depends on

[plucky stump]

probably ok, still emotes will eat a lot of ram

[grand coral]

How bad is TooManyEmotes in terms of ram usage?

[plucky stump]

also why shader of haunted harpist takes ~50MB

[plucky stump]

not sure, but I can test it later

[granite ravine]

maybe transparency related?

[grand coral]

I was gonna say, you may be able to have flip optimize it a little if needed he's usually pretty good about this stuff

[plucky stump]

wait is TME using input utils?

[grand coral]

I don't think so? I'll have to check lol

I guess it is

XD

[shadow slate]

is there any possibility to choose the cache location?

[grand coral]

I think it's a soft dependency though cus it's not listed as a dependency

[plucky stump]

In Menu

no emote sounds in memory

[unborn adder]

Someone told me a few days ago that this mod had issues with some LLL moons, is this still the case?

[plucky stump]

hmm

I didn't received reports with LLL moons

[unborn adder]

Gotcha, thanks :)

[plucky stump]

Probably config file will be also global...

or just make some file that will contain path to the cache

🤔

[spark lark]

what do 0.3.1 do

[plucky stump]

hotfixing

[spark lark]

hotfixing what happened above? . ,.

[grand coral]

Yes

0.2.0 and 0.3.0 caused some mods to break on game launch

lol

0.3.1 fixes that

[spark lark]

Well I didn't know that ., . .... Do you see dis?

I require info~ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[grand coral]

cache folder was moved to the global location

[plucky stump]

i forgor to make changelog 😦

[grand coral]

Instead of BepinEx's cache folder

[plucky stump]

^

[spark lark]

how dare you 🔫

-3-

so should I nuke the folder

or does the update automatically delete

[plucky stump]

you can now nuke folder BepInEx/cache/AssetBundle

[spark lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-shame-gif-26273082

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[plucky stump]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-b-u-h-cat-silly-кот-gif-2242355352608793340

[thin perch]

so TME dont eat up ram? 😮

[plucky stump]

probably emote sounds are compressed in memory

or even streamed from the disk

[thin perch]

so its already optimized

sick

[plucky stump]

Hm, need to investigate why Zeekerss set probe reflection atlas texture too high

like 1GB for that is too much

[steel current]

so delete the whole cache folder or just the asset bundle folder inside

[grand coral]

only the asset bundle folder

[thin magnet]

if we dont delete it will it be automatically deleted after 3 days?

[grand coral]

@plucky stump been getting a lot of crashes recently when trying to create a save with the new update

Kind of irritating tbh

I hope this can be fixed because Bepin refuses to report why it's crashing

[plucky stump]

BepInEx cannot report crashes

you should check Unity logs instead

especially unity crash logs

%temp%\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company

For me game crashes due to AsyncLoggers when quitting the game

[plucky stump]

No

[steel current]

had an issue the other day where i couldnt have people join me while this was enabled dont have log any idea if that might be fixed?

[plucky stump]

without logs is not possible to know where the issue is

...

[brittle herald]

Where does that come from lol?

[plucky stump]

comment on commit

but it was deleted after an hour

[plucky stump]

Probably tomorrow I will push an update that will allow for other devs to control should their bundle to cache

[iron edge]

anyone havin problem with 0.3.1 ? 🤔

[brittle herald]

Everything works fine for me

[plucky stump]

Starting to analyzing why my VRAM is leaking

[plucky stump]

well, vram is leaking because of copying the original assets and then bundle them so 2 copies of texture in memory 😦

[grand coral]

Soooo disable this mod for now then to resolve vram leaking?

Lmk when you get the memory leak issue fixed

[plucky stump]

it's not mod fault

it's just poor memory management from other mods

[grand coral]

Ahhhh

[plucky stump]

v50 tag added

[plucky stump]

upstream change:

• LLL moons should load even faster 👀

[sullen igloo]

Will this speed up LLL loading each moon? When you sit on the black screen (to be more specific)

[plucky stump]

yeah

[granite ravine]

Why

[plucky stump]

loading via stream is kinda slow

so I made it to load via file instead

[granite ravine]

i have to do via stream don’t i

For the streaming bundles

[plucky stump]

no?

plus your Application.streamingAssetsPath + is overriden by the assetbundle path

[granite ravine]

have you checked if custom moons load corre tly

[plucky stump]

last session with my friends and all custom moons loaded correctly

[granite ravine]

hmm

[plucky stump]

You can try to experiment on your side

[granite ravine]

It’s with good knowledge and testing thats chill but in the future I kinda don’t like that this got into a public update before you hit me up haha

[plucky stump]

#1199836228858675330 message
And also found out some fps spikes

plus HUDManager.Update spikes every 1 second

But I still didn't found the mod causing that

[granite ravine]

nice

but yeah just let me know next time 👍

[plucky stump]

ok 👍

[median lintel]

how stable is this right now? also shouldn't the [WIP] prefix be removed from the post 😮

[plucky stump]

the upstream should be now stable

[granite ravine]

is this anything lll or lll dependant related

[plucky stump]

because decompress was on other thread and Unity didn't like that

[plucky stump]

lll dependant i guess

currently moon devs reuse textures in other bundles

[granite ravine]

ahh

[plucky stump]

causing to load many textures

[granite ravine]

handling that kinda issue is abit of a pain tbh

[plucky stump]

yeah..

[granite ravine]

depending on the level some moons reuse vanilla assets like sounds, models etc. cuz of how lll works which ideally will end up being solved by better unity editor tooling but havent had a chance to properly hit it

[plucky stump]

I could probably do some patching and rerouting to use Resources.Load but eeehhh

[granite ravine]

can you elaborate on that

[plucky stump]

If mod uses assetbundle.LoadAsset(name) I can try to reroute to use the Resource.LoadAsset, so it will use instead the game asset, instead of loading the bundle asset

but I think it will cause more issues tbh

[granite ravine]

you misunderstand the problem

the game asset isn't in memory yet

theres a range of assets that happen to be loaded on main menu due to the testenemies stuff and networkprefabs but im not comfortable pushing that kind of stuff before you enter lobby

[plucky stump]

what on earth with walker

why it's triggers OnTriggerStay 1M times

[granite ravine]

skinwalker?

[plucky stump]

diversity walker enemy

ah diversity breaks the game with debugger

[shy venture]

dev took a break after releasing the big update

big oof

[plucky stump]

Finally I found the mod that causing HUDManager.Update to spike it's Lethal Things

There's also spikes with AudioReverbTrigger, but I think it's vanilla doing something heavy

[granite ravine]

Probably reverb?

Oh

Yeah they use ontriggerstay sometimes

[plucky stump]

need to check what is doing in that method

[plucky stump]

Removed caution about being unstable in readme. But mod will still be WIP

[clever fractal]

keep up the great work man, your doing wonders to to the modding community ❤️

[median lintel]

damn i need to start learning how to use this profiler

[runic steeple]

does that mean it doesnt cause any bugs anymore?

[runic steeple]

does that mean u cant use this mod and diversity together?

[plucky stump]

wdym?

no

[runic steeple]

im asking if this mod cause any issues with the game. You still title it WIP so im curious

[runic steeple]

so it works fine with diversity then?

[plucky stump]

No, it doesn't cause any issues

[runic steeple]

so WIP just cuz youll add more features then?

[plucky stump]

yeah

[runic steeple]

ok cool

[median lintel]

imo removing the [WIP] makes more sense since having that tag makes it sound like it hasn't done its first release yet

[deep bobcat]

yeah i'd change it to [BETA] or somethin like that

[plucky stump]

Hmm, alright I will change the WIP to BETA when I will publish 0.4.0 or 0.5.0 version

[plucky stump]

Thanks everyone for 12k downloads

[steel current]

not sure if this problems from this mod or not

wouldnt boot past black screen

[plucky stump]

Do you have space on your C drive?

[steel current]

yee

loool nooo

before the boot i had 15 gb dont know what happened

[thin magnet]

Would it be possible to have a config to set where the bundles will be made?

[steel current]

when bundles are made are they removed after game or is that where my space keeps going?

[plucky stump]

Sadly I need to make config global, but I don't know how to make it user friendly

[steel current]

i cleared a bunch of space earlier and only thing ive done since is boot lethal a few times now i have no space

[thin magnet]

I only use the c drive for OS only so its kinda full. So now i cant use this mod because of the changes

I see

[plucky stump]

bundles will stay on your cache folder, but if 3 days was past without using it then mod will delete them

[steel current]

how do i delete manually?

i think this is what keeps filling my c drive i also only like to use it for os

[plucky stump]

well r2modman cache takes more usage than my mod

So I would recommend to firstly delete r2modman cache

[thin magnet]

Yea i have my r2 on another drive as well

[steel current]

my thunderstore is also on e drive

[thin magnet]

Which is why before i was able to use it before you made the changes making it on c.

What was the reasoning with the changes to make it go on the same place as the games cache? Just curious

[plucky stump]

Modpacks

[brittle herald]

Its better because the cache doesnt have to be remade everytime you change/update your profile

[thin magnet]

I see

[steel current]

this essentially bricks my fuckin pc

i only have space for my operating system

[thin magnet]

Suggest not using it as well. Unfortunately

You can manually delete the bundles its in %appdata%/../LocalLow/ZeekerssRBLX/Lethal Company/

[steel current]

still have to find the file so i can re free the space it ate 😦 i have 0 bytes on cdrvie

[thin magnet]

Assetbundles folder iirc

[steel current]

imo you should revert this change alot of people only have c drive for os

[plucky stump]

You can revert your version yourself

to 0.2.0

[thin magnet]

Oh yea i didnt think about this. Ill probably do this so i can still use it. Thank you

[steel current]

this is making my damn brain hurt i cant find the file for the life of me

[steel current]

also great idea actually

thats insane that freed up 27 gb

found it btw

[plucky stump]

👍

[steel current]

is there a plan to make that configurable in the future?

[plucky stump]

Only if someone will make config mod but for global settings

[steel current]

global settings?

[plucky stump]

yes

because right now configs are local and can be overridden with modpack

Or I can try to make cache where the game is installed

[steel current]

100% that

[plucky stump]

Alright, voting time:
👍 - Moving cache folder to the game installation (will require again to create cache; probably will cause slower loading if game installed on HDD)

👎 - Just leave as is

[sullen igloo]

I assume it will delete the old cache in AppData?

[plucky stump]

yeah, I will delete it

[dusky quiver]

Use the clean cache setting

Do not manually delete files from here

[steel current]

realized that to late currently in progress of starting fresh 😦

[dusky quiver]

I mean it’s their fault rather than yours

You just did what they told you

[steel current]

[21:25:43.9752290] [Error : Unity Log] Failed to read data for the AssetBundle 'E:\Thunderstore Mod manager\LethalCompany\profiles\the new pack\BepInEx\plugins\TheWeavers-NightmareFoxy\FoxyNightmare\foxymodasset'.
[21:25:43.9752290] [Error : Unity Log] Failed to read data for the AssetBundle 'E:\Thunderstore Mod manager\LethalCompany\profiles\the new pack\BepInEx\plugins\TheWeavers-NightmareFoxy\FoxyNightmare\foxymodasset'.
[21:25:43.9752290] [Error :NightmareFoxy] Failed to load custom assets.

everythings giving me this log now 😦

[dusky quiver]

It’s a manager cache which is used to

1. Resolve mod conflicts
2. Store icons
3. Store versions to prevent using the internet when you redownload a version

[steel current]

so in theory this should fix itself after first launch if i manually deleted everything?

[dusky quiver]

1. Is important because files may have to be re-applied. It’s not the case for LC but it does happen for some games
2. Is important because icons are in a manager-controlled location
3. Is important because some people have “metered” internet which means they have a data limit

[steel current]

or should i just rebuild the pack at this point

[dusky quiver]

Deleting files from the manager cache folder shouldn’t affect game launching for LC

[steel current]

yea but the cache should rebuild itself right? or do i need to reinstall everything

[dusky quiver]

In fact if you just export and reimport then it’ll refresh the cache

No, it’s not a game cache

[steel current]

thanks

[steel current]

can u ping me when the update comes out

[steel current]

been testing for a while to see where it came from but when i went down to the lower version of this mod i had major fps loss

[steel current]

newest version too

[abstract gate]

as we were discussing here: #1225359492175106048 message
having the cache in the AppData folder seems to generate conflicts if you play with multiple profiles.
the suggestions are two:

• give the user a friendly way of clearing the cache
• making a config option to bring back the cache to the profile folder

if the premise of this message is wrong feel free to ignore it. i havent had too many chances of using this/ looking at the code

[plucky stump]

Cache conflicts cannot be happen, because there's a check validation

[plucky stump]

There right now a poll that to move cache folder to the game installation and looks like everyone want to do that

[plucky stump]

give the user a friendly way of clearing the cache
Sadly my mod is very generic and not specific to LC, so I cannot add like LC warning about save combabilities warning

[abstract gate]

independently from that, having it as a config option to choose where to put the cache might be a good idea

[plucky stump]

that also cannot be made user friendly, because I need to make config global instead of local

there's no mods that can implement configuration globally

[abstract gate]

?. config for the profile

[plucky stump]

yeah local - config for profile

[abstract gate]

yeah why not have it local? so if i want one of my profiles to use a different cache i can

[plucky stump]

because of Modpacks I cannot do that

[abstract gate]

if you have it as a full path you can use blank = default
or better just have it an enum with a couple of options
GameSave/GameInstall/Profile ecc...

but you do you. mod is yours

[plucky stump]

Also, iirc steam doesn't delete folders that are generated on runtime, so if you delete LC the cache will still be staying here

[plucky stump]

upstream changes:

• Moved cache folder to the game installations.
• Before trying to decompress it will check if drive space has at least 10GB (will log the warning about that).
• Fix for mods that trying to load non exists bundle.

[plucky stump]

Probably after 2-3 hours will publish 0.4.0:
Here code changes so far
https://github.com/DiFFoZ/BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundles/compare/0.3.1...master

[plucky stump]

Publishing v0.4.0:

[0.4.0] 2024-04-04

Added

• Check of drive space before trying to decompress.

Changed

• Moved cache folder to the game installation.
  • The old cache folder will be deleted.
• Switching to main thread when decompress the bundle.
• Loading of uncompressed bundle to make them load faster.

Fixed

• Exception that happens if mod trying to load non exists bundle.

[BETA] BepInEx Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher

[solemn tangle]

Peak

[grand coral]

@plucky stump My game doesn't quit anymore after the new update, it just freezes on exit

[plucky stump]

any exception?

[grand coral]

Nope

Let me see if it does it again

It didn't do it again super odd

Lol

Maybe a bug after first boot with new update?

[plucky stump]

Can't say for sure

Because I don't block the quitting request

[grand coral]

Might have been AsyncLoggers there then

But it's never done that before

[thin magnet]

Hmm i checked my game installation but there was no cache inside?

[plucky stump]

This is because of your filter (.exe)

[thin magnet]

OH

[plucky stump]

set to everything or open with explorer

[thin magnet]

owait ur right lol ok nvm im just dumb braindent

Okay everything works well 👍

I can finally use this mod again yay

[plucky stump]

@grand coral here like my profiler data

like every second lag for 3ms

[grand coral]

Yeah I may just remove it from my pack entirely tbh

it'll probably be for the best

How has ACA been for you?

@plucky stump does AbandonedCompanyAssets work okay for you or does it cause networking spikes as well? I removed it cus I thought it was the problem but I might readd it if it's okay

[plucky stump]

ACA works fine for me

[grand coral]

Okay got it ^^

[lyric owl]

but boomba plead_hole

pleadingzoom

[grand coral]

Someone please just make Boombas be a seperate mod

LethalThings is too broken

[lyric owl]

ill make a turret on a roomba joethumbsup

I do plan to do that but like the uhhh I cant code only model lol thats why I made a mod collaboration post

[plucky stump]

ooo LT is with MIT license

So yeah we can fork and delete everything except of scraps and enemies

[lyric owl]

the scrap is also problematic due to not being optimized

iirc

[plucky stump]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric owl]

include the trap too imo its neat
I just dont use it because its spawnrate is nuts without a config

[brittle herald]

I also like the electrify mechanic it adds to the item charger

[grand coral]

Unfortunately that feature is so buggy

[brittle herald]

how so?

never had problems with it

[lyric owl]

curse of being the first big mod on the thunderstore

[plucky stump]

It's buggy with custom scraps iirc

[grand coral]

I noticed at some point after adding some mods it started forcing an actual lighting strike behind the player in the ship

So anyone standing there would get hurt too

That feature has a lot of compat issues

@plucky stump You're gonna upload the Boomba as a seperate mod btw? 💜

[plucky stump]

the problem is that I don't have assets of Boomba

[lyric owl]

I could try to recreate it

if somebody gets me a good ss

is the teleporter trap buggy? if not make a fork with boomba and trap imo

with a config for trap spawnrate because its just too high

[grand coral]

The Teleporter Trap doesn't spawn on custom moons

But that might be a bug with LT itself

Are the assets for the Boomba not included with the mod btw?

They should be

[lyric owl]

yea they should be

[plucky stump]

https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalThings/
no Unity project :/

[lyric owl]

like I said the model looks simple

get me a good ss and I probably will attempt a remake

or you could ask them for it

[brittle herald]

Are you sure that's the case? I'm pretty sure I've seen them spawn on custom moons multiple times

Heck, I disabled them because there were way too much

[grand coral]

One of the recent LT updates probably broke them spawning on custom moons

[lyric owl]

same

idk bout custom moons tho

[granite ravine]

its possible i fucked up lethallib custom map objects

ngl

[grand coral]

I doubt this is your fault lol

Unless you mean for the V50 update

XD

[granite ravine]

no its possible when ll and lll is installed, lll just disables some of ll's randommapobject code

[grand coral]

I would say that's true but there's no way

Cus Teleporter Traps and stuff spawn normally on Vanilla moons

Plus I also noticed after the recent LT update when a friend was playing I noticed Teleporter Traps wouldn't spawn for them on Wesley's Moons

But would on Vanilla

so prob LT bug cus they don't have LLL

[granite ravine]

that might be an LE

[grand coral]

Possible

[plucky stump]

LT LE LL LLL

buh

[granite ravine]

in fairness v50 will mostly bring that down to just LT and LLL

[grand coral]

I will say when I play V50 I almost always get dropped frames on my stream and idk if that's cus the Networking code is messy in Vanilla rn or if that's caused by GhostCodes cus it doesn't normally happen in my V49 pack with the exception of the past couple days where LT decided to start causing issues

In any case I removed GhostCodes incase until Darmuh does the rewrite, as it's a bit buggy right now anyways

[lyric owl]

the voices are so loud

its so hard to keep track of stuff during a convo

[harsh elk]

all these acronyms

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vibe-funny-cat-kitty-gif-23972363

[thin perch]

LC LT LE LECore LL LLL 4G LTE

[gray dock]

whats wrong with lethalthings

[lyric owl]

Buggy and some parts unoptimized

[gray dock]

whats buggy, never had any issues with it before

[lyric owl]

I don’t know the details but a lot of features just have issues iirc

These guys know more than me

[tulip fjord]

apparently buggy, dunno on what really, havent seen many real bug reports, and something about scrap being unoptimised, but have yet to see anyone explain what "unoptimised" means

[plucky stump]

from others:

1. Network overhead usage
2. Shop items are still registered even if disabled in config
3. Feature to charge metallic scrap is broken with custom scrap + cannot be disabled with config
4. Unoptimized
5. Some items are not dispawned after firing animation

[tulip fjord]

1. I did see some weirdness in the dev branch with networking that i honestly dont understand.
2. I tried figuring this one out with the guy who reported it, I have no idea why the items are "registered", I dont think you can buy em nor do they show up in the shop, but things suddenly change when they're on a "discount".
3. charging metallic scrap detects an IsConductive property for every item but i havent seen the code for it personally so maybe.
4. Again, this one makes no sense.
5. not sure what this one means tbh

I still think its a much better idea to make a pr than just copy pasting the code into multiple mods

much more maintainable way of doing things + it's how credits are properly given in projects like these

[plucky stump]

I don't like mods that use MonoMod 🤮

I would instead rewrote to use harmony

[tulip fjord]

@brave mirage

[brave mirage]

why?

[plucky stump]

Because monomod works bad with harmony plus breaks stacktrace for me

in terraria monomod is used only and it's good, but with harmony is making everything so bad

[brave mirage]

do you mean with "working bad with harmony " how it always runs before Harmony?

[plucky stump]

Yes

[brave mirage]

I see

Anyways, MonoMod works in way you can predict, while with Harmony you need to follow Harmony's rules (like how __instance is intance, __result is used for changing/accessing the return value etc.)

[plucky stump]

I used monomod only for patching native methods

everything else I use harmony

[brave mirage]

wdym with native methods and else?

[plucky stump]

native methods with extern

[brave mirage]

oh, okay

[plucky stump]

else managed methods

[lyric owl]

True I do think a lot of people would like standalone Boomba tho shrug

[tulip fjord]

Configs disabling other stuff >>>

[granite ravine]

@plucky stump dw bby it’s moving to LLL soon

[plucky stump]

Hmmmm

21 seconds - to load bundles via stream
52ms - to load bundles via file

762ms - load assets from bundle

Full time to load the game - 51s

[granite ravine]

That seems so cursed

[plucky stump]

and other load time is spent probably on mono jitting and patching

With deep profiling the profiler just doesn't show anything

disabled mods that doesn't work with debugger

and now i see full profiler data

yeah, most of the time is spent on patching

but for casino is just LoadAllAssets call

Here my mod that calls Harmony.PatchAll(Assembly)
2250ms takes to load the mod and 1973ms is just patching

[plucky stump]

Huh, set value to config entry takes ~80ms

[granite ravine]

yeah i did a super shit stopwatch timing of my lll startup and my config binding easily took the longest

i do some cursed string stuff in there i gotta fix but still

[plucky stump]

probably this is because of bepinex itself

it calls global event changed and then individual config entry event changed

probably because of this is takes too much of time

[plucky stump]

Tried to use debugger with FixPluginTypesSerialization and game just dies

Why CSync is now using it

[upper wadi]

pain

[plucky stump]

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(ConfigSyncBehaviour), "Awake")]
[HarmonyPrefix]
public static void FixSerializedKey(ConfigSyncBehaviour __instance)
{
    GetComponentsNonAlloc(__instance);

    var selfComponentIndex = s_Components.FindIndex(c => c == __instance);

    GetComponentsNonAlloc(s_CSyncPrefab);

    var value = s_ConfigInstanceKeyProperty.GetValue(s_Components[selfComponentIndex]);
    s_ConfigInstanceKeyProperty.SetValue(__instance, value);

    s_Components.Clear();
}

Made a fix for CSync error

Will publish the fix later

[sullen igloo]

Does this mod break things? I've been hearing that on other channels

[plucky stump]

it only breaks if:

1. You have LLL and LLLFixed enabled (fix: disable LLL)
2. When attaching debugger (fix: requires coding)

[sullen igloo]

Thanks, I'll relay that to the DramaMask dev, I might have worried him 😅

[plucky stump]

no problem

[grand coral]

Ayyyyy I didn't even know Faster Load was causing an error with CSync currently

[plucky stump]

nope, it's again because of debugger, not my mod

[grand coral]

Ah

[plucky stump]

😆

[acoustic fable]

for some reason, if I have this mod enabled I can't host or join lobbies, or do anything with my saves. it's due to this and it happens even if i disable LLL's

[01.36.17.0840974] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Steamworks.SteamClient.get_IsLoggedOn () (at <19bd4cc6a4004258bf538b05ac1133d6>:IL_0005)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MenuManager.DMD<MenuManager::Start>(MenuManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<MenuManager::Start>?1221052476(MenuManager)
LethalLib.Modules.Utilities.MenuManager_Start (On.MenuManager+orig_Start orig, MenuManager self) (at <c68aa40cbbae4bd69cd2fcd50c8f1ae1>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<MenuManager::Start>?-1491715104(MenuManager)

here's my dependencies

everything works fine after I disable this mod

[plucky stump]

The exception means that steam lib is not initialized

send the full log instead

[acoustic fable]

this should be fine, it's only after this that you can see errors

at least ones that relate to this, i can send the complete thing as well if this still isnt enough

[Info :MoreCompany] LANMenu startLAN Patched
reacting

i have it on online though

ok nvm that doesnt tell anything, it appears even when stuff works normally

[plucky stump]

Hmm, try to disable mods that auto skip intro, if you have

[acoustic fable]

lets see

that does it, weird

had two that did the same but not completely same, introtweaks and generalimprovements

lemme see which one actually affected it

[plucky stump]

I use GI to skip ONLINE or LAN mode selection

[acoustic fable]

yeah, so it was introtweaks

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Owen3H/IntroTweaks/

Last updated: 3 weeks ago

[plucky stump]

Well dev will probably won't update the mod anymore

[sullen igloo]

Not really a great idea to skip the intros regardless, pretty sure it can mess up other mods too

[acoustic fable]

irenenotes

[sullen igloo]

General Improvements has an option to auto-select the mode, Online or LAN

[acoustic fable]

yeah i use that as well, introtweaks had some minor stuff that was also alright to overlap it with, but i wont really miss it

[sullen igloo]

I have mine set to online and it never causes issues, pretty sure it skips nothing. Just auto-selects the menu option

[acoustic fable]

yeah

[plucky stump]

Probably disabling my mod would make a steam to initialize in time, but with fast bundle loading the game just can't keep up

I can add warning log if IntroTweaks is loaded it can cause your game to broke

⚠️ DISABLE INTROTWEAKS MOD ⚠️

If you are experiencing a problem where you cannot host or join lobbies, then disable the IntroTweaks mod.

Jeb dead 😦

[granite ravine]

LLL will be using it next update too btw

[plucky stump]

welp I have already code for CSync

and probably LLL soon i guess

[granite ravine]

is it something that could be put inside that mod specifically?

unfortunately it do be neccasary at times

[plucky stump]

that mod makes unity unhappy

I sent every log that I can caught to the lord, but he's on holidays

[granite ravine]

in fairness we use it because unity's already unhappy 😛

[sullen igloo]

I assume since the problem is running both LLLs the updated version wont have that issue?

[granite ravine]

huh

[sullen igloo]

PluginFix having issues whenever you use both LLL and LLLFixed(when both are enabled), I assume the updated version won't have that problem since there will only be one version then

[tulip fjord]

Hi, jeb here

I was sleeping

[solemn tangle]

@high pecan

[median lintel]

holy shit jeb has a command for pinning/unpinning now? BLESSED

[iron edge]

we have jeb at home

just incase jeb dies

[smoky rivet]

Jeb is Xu at home

[dusk atlas]

what happened to jeb?

[signal ice]

So does this make modpacks faster?

[brittle herald]

it makes your game launch faster

[signal ice]

Well yeah

But is it a huge difference?

Does it like

[brittle herald]

yes

[signal ice]

Do anything

Like skip loading of stuff causing issues

[brittle herald]

no

just creates a cache of mods so boot times are faster

[signal ice]

Does updating the mods cause issues???

[brittle herald]

no

[signal ice]

Good to know! Thanks

[queen elm]

Hi there! Just checking, since there's been a bit of silence after v50.
Is it working as intended for you?
The only thing I know is that LethalLevelLoader broke quite badly - so it's not FasterLABPatcher's fault

[shy venture]

it is for me

[upper wadi]

LLL is being worked on rn for v50 compatibility, Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher was already compatible, as it doesn't really touch anything inside the game

[plucky stump]

Working on v0.5.0

[plucky stump]

Mods that use ModelReplacementAPI are now cached 👀

[karmic dawn]

cant wait to test it out, great work!

[plucky stump]

https://github.com/DiFFoZ/BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundles/compare/feature/unmanaged-bundle-caching
current changes

[plucky stump]

Looking to release an update today

[plucky stump]

Publishing v0.5.0:

[0.5.0] 2024-04-24

Changed

• All bundle loading by stream are now recompressed.

Fixed

• Array leaking from the pool.

[plucky stump]

BepInEx Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher

[misty sigil]

is there a proper way to install the mod or can I just download it like any other mod?

I did the latter and didnt notice major diference in loading time

[brittle herald]

It only affects loadings after the first one

[plucky stump]

If you're using a launcher then it will install where it's needed.

The first load will not be affected, because mod prepares cache, so when you launch it second time it will boot much faster

[misty sigil]

even after the first load the booting time is the same

if not slight slower than before

[plucky stump]

may you send logs?

[misty sigil]

where exactly can I find them?

because last time I checked there were 2 types of logs in the game files

[plucky stump]

from the logs it does load faster

[misty sigil]

I can try and record the booting time with and without the mod if you want

although if the logs dont say much, I wonder if theres anything that can be done about it

[misty sigil]

ok actually, nevermind

I think I just have too many mods and that was messing with my comparisson

I recorded a timer with the game booting with and without the mod, and the mod does shave off almost a minute of booting time

so I guess my game is just bloated then haha

sorry for the inconvenience

[karmic dawn]

hi, glad to see a new update! does this incorporate the feature of caching mods that use ModelReplacementAPI?

[steel current]

if i wanted to delete my cache and make a new one due to removing mods where would i find it

@plucky stump

[plucky stump]

You can find cache folder in game installation

[plucky stump]

hello, yes! All mods that use MRAPI should now cached

and Emotes API

[steel current]

[04:51:04.1174304] [Error : Unity Log] The AssetBundle 'E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Lethal Company\Cache\AssetBundles\modassets_-9795524.assetbundle' can't be loaded because another AssetBundle with the same files is already loaded.
[04:51:04.1174304] [Error : Unity Log] The AssetBundle 'E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Lethal Company\Cache\AssetBundles\modassets_-9795524.assetbundle' can't be loaded because another AssetBundle with the same files is already loaded.
[04:51:04.1174304] [Error :ExampleEnemy] Failed to load custom assets.

will send whole log in a second

[plucky stump]

bad mod

every asset bundles names should be unique

[granite ravine]

your checking for variantname too ye

[plucky stump]

it's unity by default checks it

[steel current]

any idea what mod it could be from log?

[plucky stump]

No, but you can try find mods by finding modassets file

and you will find 2 mods that causing this issue

and removing one of them will fix it

[pastel zephyr]

Hypothetically, if I were to send my unpacked assets, so the cache folder on my game files.. would it work for someone else ? Definitely not having someone that takes 25minutes+ (might be infinite and linked to something else tho...)

[iron edge]

it seems like this particular mod is making your mod freak out ?

[plucky stump]

yeah, you can send the cache folder to your friend and it will load fine

[plucky stump]

may you send the mod link?

[iron edge]

that screenshot was on v0.5.0
this code is not the updated one v0.4.0
018f14ae-b2c6-21f0-fd33-e4a3609a4052

problem happens after the next game launch

ok game doesnt crash on v0.4 but it took a big delay on that same spot in the console on second launch

oh yea also somehow on v0.5 it generates a single 4gb assetbundle

[plucky stump]

this is because of this mod

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Delete/Blue_Archive_Model_bundle/

and probably unity crashed because it cannot handle bundles larger than 4gb?

[granite ravine]

4gb?

bitch huh !

[granite ravine]

fat32 looking ass

[plucky stump]

hm looks like it was fixed in unity 2020

but still unity doesn't like it

[granite ravine]

i wonder if

its not built for 64bit

iirc its one of the assetbundlebuild settings

like the mod i mean

[plucky stump]

ooooh yeah

welp sadge

will probably add safe guard to check the uncompressed asset bundle size

[plucky stump]

from 500MB to 4.5GB

buh

[iron edge]

[karmic dawn]

thanks for confirming! it didnt seem to work for me so maybe ill try making a new profile

[plucky stump]

added safe guard and warning log:

[CRASH SAFE GUARD] Escaping crashing because uncompressed bundle XXX is larger than 4GB!

[karmic dawn]

i think the reason why is that the assetbundle doesnt have the unique mod id name

should i delete these and try again?

[iron edge]

i think even if u delete itll happen again on v0.5

[karmic dawn]

the two model mods that didnt get its own unique id were:

• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Shenron2hu/TouhouPlayerModels/
• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MK_MODS/BlueArchivePlayerModelReplay/

they are pretty big so im not surprised

[plucky stump]

looks like unity just doesn't even decompress it properly and left it in invalid bundle

[iron edge]

modelreplacement pack in general

[plucky stump]

they don't get the unique name it's because of how it's loaded

[karmic dawn]

i see, i thought it couldnt find the assetbundle because of the name

maybe the mod is just that big to load

ill keep testing

cant seem to search this thread but i noticed lethalconfig adds an extra +20 seconds with the mod

[11:46:04.3017631] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Queued recompress of "ainavt_lethalconfig" assetbundle```

gonna keep testing to see if this is temporary

@plucky stump my bad, i wasn't aware that the assetbundles are still being built after lethal is loaded. it works great!

first time: 2:30m
second time: 1:44m
third time: 53s (after letting bundles get built)

i just gotta figure out these two mods:

• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AinaVT/LethalConfig/
• https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/malco/Lategame_Upgrades/

[spark lark]

what-you-mean . . . .,.

I gotta leave the game running for a while?

[karmic dawn]

during my testing, i just closed the game after it launched

but looking in the directory, i noticed the assetbundles were still being compiled

i dont think it should take that long

[brave mirage]

[Error :ExampleEnemy]
someone didn't rename their mod 💀

[fossil trail]

men stalker mod is still named as example enemy so

if you have that, its probably one of the reasons

@steel current

[clever fractal]

Ohhh

[shy venture]

are there other mods that have the same asset bundle name?

[steel current]

menstalker for sure

he got a page in this discord?

[grave burrow]

tbh menstalker is very buggy

[steel current]

i havent even seen him yet

[grave burrow]

Try him, as soon as my friend got killed by him, menstalker just started running in place with a loud sound effect in loop for the rest of the round

[plucky light]

I believe the creator is in this server

No page though

Hopefully they make one

[queen elm]

yup, it's a bit clunky but last update made it...acceptable. Probably a novice modder as the enemy is still named like "ObjMonsterEnemy" or something like that. Can get stuck sometimes but somehow "feels" more part of the game than a lot of other enemies imported from other "multiverses" (personal opinion - such as slenderman, various scps, etc.)

[grave burrow]

Oh yeah, I'm bummed about it being so clunky because it's like the best stalker type modded enemy in the game design wise, I'm not a big fan of slender and the scp stuff

[tulip fjord]

@plucky stump I'm being asked to ask you to check if my mod is causing network issues, I dont see why it would but idk how to check it myself, its thegiantspecimens mod tho

[plucky stump]

@tulip fjord I don't think so that my mod causing networking issues

try instead check other mods :/

[grand coral]

No Xu was asking if their mod TheGiantSpecimens was causing Networking issues

Not your mod lol

[plucky stump]

oh

cant read sorry

[grand coral]

Btw @plucky stump what mods are creating files like this?

[plucky stump]

only by checking the logs

[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [LethalMissions 1.1.8]
[Info   :LethalMissions] Loading missions for language: en
[Info   :LethalMissions] Installing patches...
[Info   :LethalMissions] Loading assets...
[Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "312c969a82e84ed5ba3acd02d3eb5048_-56641588.assetbundle"

[grand coral]

Lol there it is

[final monolith]

Is there a way to upload the stuff that loads it faster into a modpack on thunderstore?

[iron edge]

thats one way to quickly fill the server with uncompressed files

[plucky stump]

it's possible but not practical

[final monolith]

Why

[plucky stump]

Cache invalidation will cause to redownload cache (assuming cache will take 1GB)

plus thunderstore will probably won't like that

and users will also report a lot of disk usage because of mod caching

[steel current]

my current pack takes a billion years to launch and i have a feeling its this mod

will send log once game boots fully

[plucky stump]

you can check time to launch without my mod and see if it's really my mod issue

[tulip fjord]

Its been like 8 hours and his game hasn't loaded fully, clearly its this mod smh

[plucky stump]

50k downloads, thank you 🙂

[blazing seal]

Thank you so much for creating this mod!

[steel current]

Got into a disagreement with my wife had to take time to resolve that forgot all about this

[hard basalt]

Hello! Does anyone have issues (like player being stuck on Grab (E) when spawning in the ship) with this mod?

[brittle herald]

No, this mod is not the one causing this

[hard basalt]

Actually yes, it is the one causing this. I'm trying to figure out if there's a known incompatibility

But this issue happens with the mod enabled, and disappears when disabled. Tried launching 6 times (2 times with, 2 times without, 1 time with, 1 time without)

100% of the time

[brittle herald]

Have you tried cleaning your cache

[hard basalt]

Hold on

Would AutoHookGenPatcher cause a problem?

[brittle herald]

I don't use that, idk

[hard basalt]

It modifies the way the cache is handled

I'll try clearing the cache, then redoing it without that mod

Thanks

[tulip fjord]

Lmk if it's the problem

[hard basalt]

Well, it still won't work.

Clearing the cache is deleting the contents of the BepInex/cache folder, right?

[tulip fjord]

Dunno, probably

[brittle herald]

It's in the game's folder

[tulip fjord]

Doubt it's autohookgenpatcher tho btw

[hard basalt]

It works for you?

[brittle herald]

Steam\steamapps\common\Lethal Company\Cache

[hard basalt]

Should I delete AssetBundles directly?

Or only its contents

[brittle herald]

I delete the AssetBundles folder yeah

[hard basalt]

Got it

[tulip fjord]

I'm not having the problem u are, but I'd be curious if autohookgen caused anything

[hard basalt]

I'll start with AutoHookGenPatcher for now

[hard basalt]

People complaining a lot about load times, so I have to do all this x_x

It works.

But now, I'll restart the game and check again.

It still works

That's odd, but thanks a lot!

[jagged void]

One of my group is having this problem, what exactly did you do to solve it? My brain can’t process the conversation

[brave mirage]

as the dev of AutoHookGenPatcher, I can say it shouldn't change anything compared to HookGenPatcher

[hard basalt]

Well, the problem happens again

But it isn't linked to your mod

[hard basalt]

Deleting the content of Steam\steamapps\common\Lethal Company\Cache
But it's only a temporary fix, and it started occuring again.

[plucky stump]

I don't think that it's my mod

check logs instead

[hard basalt]

I'll check that tonight

[spark lark]

Will there ever be a situation where it's recommended/necessary to remove the files within the cache? . ,.

[iron edge]

uhhh when u dont have much space left i guess
is this one only work if u launched the game with the mod turned on? @plucky stump

[plucky stump]

yes

[plucky stump]

I think no

[hard basalt]

Everything starts well, except soumdmanager: True; False gets spammed and lobby is stuck on "Grab (E)"

[fleet smelt]

Hi!
Anyone else getting "[Warning:BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Ignoring request of decompressing, because the free drive space is less than 10GB" using linux/proton? I have lots of space left.

[plucky stump]

send log here

[plucky stump]

I'm not sure how to increase free disk space for steam proton

[plucky stump]

I'm looking to release v1.0.0, suggest ideas that you want to see 🙂

[iron edge]

did u find out the cause of that 4gb modelreplacement assetsbundle cache tho

cuz 0.5.0 doesnt work for them and some people might not wanna miss out the new features too

[plucky stump]

I'll add workaround for that in v1.0.0

[tough bay]

Hm

Honestly

I don’t really know what i’d suggest

I don’t know that much about what makes mod loading slow

Besides the size of the mod

Hm

Oh wait

Maybe have like a config option to set how much space the cache takes up?

I’m pretty sure if it’s too large, it can’t be sent via code

Actually i don’t know if it can be sent at all if someone sends a modpack code

I’m assuming it can though

[deep bobcat]

i believe they're stored in your lethal company game folder so no they are not sent over code

[brittle herald]

What is that error?

[plucky stump]

file is locked by other process

e.g. antivirus

[plucky stump]

^

[plucky stump]

Currently my mod doesn't work with XUnity_AutoTranslator because of how it works under the hood.

https://github.com/DiFFoZ/BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundles/issues/9

[chrome bison]

@plucky stump
I seem to get hangs after some asset bundles uncompress.

No errors it just does not continue to load at all

[plucky stump]

not sure but it can be because of LLL v1.2.3

[chrome bison]

oh can it?

[plucky stump]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1193461151636398080/1241923933108830298
It's currently hangs when selecting online or lan option

[chrome bison]

I don't have this somehow.

Plus this happens before the client opens up

Only the Bepinex command window is open

[plucky stump]

probably faststartup fails to open the game window

because LLL hangs

[chrome bison]

hmm

[plucky stump]

Getting to make support with XUnity_AutoTranslator will be hard

Also, I can try to make an option for hotfixing LLL even if uncompressed bundles are not cached

[plucky stump]

Oh just noticed that LLL got hotfix

[grand coral]

Yes it did c;

[grand coral]

Interestingly enough your mod fixed the bug with 1.2.3 but not for everyone lmfao

Dunno why

[plucky stump]

ye it fixes only if all bundles are uncompressed

if one of bundle is not then LLL just dies

[grand coral]

Makes sense lol

[plucky stump]

Man without this mod I would never played with more than 100 mods. Almost 14gb without this mod and 6gb with this mod

[fossil trail]

how tho, im at 130 and its still at like 14-15gb lol

I have this installed too

[shy venture]

ngl but my windows task manager doesnt even acknowledge the fact that i have 32 gigs and sometimes shows lc's ram usage in sub 1gb (200 mods so doesnt look right)

[iron edge]

i think it depends on what mods u have too

[fair tartan]

hi I have an issue with these suits not working with this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MK_MODS/BlueArchivePlayerModelReplay/

i tried making a new profile to test without the assetbundle mod and it worked just fine

but idk why it's causing the game to crash with these two together

[iron edge]

go back by 1 version if u want to use big sized mod like that

[fair tartan]

ohh okay thank you! it works now 😄

[iron edge]

[thin perch]

is that the only issue? havent really seen anyone talking about any problems recently..

[iron edge]

honestly
unless the problem is really subtle/outside the game itself with 140+ mods that i used,
yea thats the only issue that i faced so far

[plucky stump]

.

finally found my own thread xd

[plucky stump]

Hm, currently trying to repro on my end

and looks like it works fine??

eh actually no

game just freezes, starting to eat memory up to 32gb (all my memory) and then crashes

[plucky stump]

hm, probably it crashes because original bundle was made in .16f1 while game is using 9f1 🤔

Looks like im correct, regression found in .14f1. Probably it cannot decompress uv1 data and crashes the game

[iron edge]

😂

[iron edge]

does that mean the modelsuit guy need to fix it on their end ?

[plucky stump]

probably

[iron edge]

well, just gonna stay on 0.4 to be safe for now

[plucky stump]

Pushed a bit of hacky fix, just do not load bundles that are larger than 4GB

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plucky stump]

Hmmm

Or I can try to use other compression type

[iron edge]

how should i know if the bundle even gonna reach 4gb 😭

[plucky stump]

decompress > check size > frick go back

[iron edge]

https://tenor.com/view/wobble-pensive-emoji-pensive-ish-wobblepensive-gif-26167268

[plucky stump]

https://tenor.com/view/bartek-supra-cars-upgrade-gif-13231640

[plucky stump]

Ok probably I fixed it without the hacky thing

yippie no crashes

but still they eat a lot of memory when you switch costumes multiple times

[iron edge]

what suits mods have like 10 page

[plucky stump]

ok i understanded why it eats a lot of ram

16Kx16K texture xdx

my gpu cannot handle that, so that why ram usage is so high

[plucky stump]

plus 15 mipmaps count 💀

[iron edge]

wtf is that

*mod

[plucky stump]

4GB textures and 1GB meshes

[iron edge]

sry i mean from what mod are those

the modelreplacement pack ?

[plucky stump]

wait a bit, gale crashed

[iron edge]

😂

it still fetching mod let it cook dont rush

[plucky stump]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MK_MODS/BlueArchivePlayerModelReplay/

[iron edge]

oh ofc that one

[plucky stump]

and here other BA models mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Delete/Blue_Archive_Model_bundle/

it's probably ok to use when you don't switch costumes multiple times

as it requires to load everything

[plucky stump]

here changelog for v0.6.0 that will be released today

[0.6.0] 2024-06-16

Added

• Big size assetbundles (larger than 300MB) are recompressed with LZ4 instead of uncompressed. This should fix crashes with very unoptimized mod assets.
• Deleting temp files on game start up.
• Deleting assetbundle metadata if uncompressed bundle was deleted.
• Pre-check to not recompress, if original assetbundle is already uncompressed or compressed with LZ4.

Removed

• Deleting of the old cache that was introduced in v0.4.0.

[thin perch]

awesome

why the heck they using such high textures on anime girls of all things

good thing i dont include anime girls in my pack 😎 so i never ran into that issue

[plucky stump]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874214351052111895/1249381110056616068/4x5-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[iron edge]

https://tenor.com/view/encore-wuthering-waves-wuwa-gif-9467038108588750755

[plucky stump]

probably for v0.7.0 I will do some experimenting with preloading stuff that will probably decrease start up time

[thin perch]

anime girls are cool and all, but i wanna keep the company aesthetics

[calm kiln]

Faster load timesss

[thin perch]

even faster would be better

if u need testers maybe u could do separate Experimental/Nightly release like mirage and loadstone has done

[plucky stump]

👍

[grand coral]

Any idea when the new update will be out? ;o I look forward to trying it out today c;

[plucky stump]

probably in 1 hour

[grand coral]

Yay c;

[plucky stump]

Published v0.6.0 to thunderstore

[0.6.0] 2024-06-16

Added

• Big size assetbundles (larger than 300MB) are recompressed with LZ4 instead of uncompressed. This should fix crashes with very unoptimized mod assets.
• Deleting temp files on game start up.
• Deleting assetbundle metadata if uncompressed bundle was deleted.
• Pre-check to not recompress, if original assetbundle is already uncompressed or compressed with LZ4.

Removed

• Deleting of the old cache that was introduced in v0.4.0.

currently startup bottleneck is getting hash of a original assetbundle

~5 seconds for 300MB

[plucky stump]

Hmm I found other hash algorithm to use that x2 time's faster, but it will require to recompress all bundles again

[iron edge]

🤔

[plucky stump]

I'll probably publish v0.6.1 with the new hash algo

if something will gone wrong then I'll rollback the version

[plucky stump]

Published v0.6.1

[0.6.1] 2024-06-16

Changed

• Algorithm of hashing assetbundle from SHA1 to Hash128 (spookyhash).

^^
Changing hash algo requires recompressing all bundles, sadly. So first start up time will be too long

[sullen igloo]

Will it delete the old bundles?

[plucky stump]

Currently no

Just in case of emergency I can rollback the version without to recompress bundles again

If no issues will happen then mod will manually delete it after 3 days due to not used

[plucky stump]

uhh looks like unity implementation of spookyhash (Hash128) is very unoptimized

unoptimized by memory usage*

hmm what if i pass nativearray instead of byte array

[plucky stump]

Published v0.6.2

[0.6.2] 2024-06-17

Fixed

• Finding assetbundle metadata by hash failing.

^^
⚠️ Also, if you having low free disk space then manually delete cache. Due to this bug it may created a lot of same cache that never may deleted!

[grand coral]

It seems even with 0.6.2 the game is still using more ram usage than with 0.6.0

[steel quiver]

really?

[grand coral]

Yeah it's a bug atm that's happening since 0.6.1 that DiFFoZ is trying to resolve

it is better with 0.6.2 though

0.6.1 was using over 9gb, with 0.6.2 it's a little under 8gb still not as good as before

My game used around 5gb before

This might be cus some mods on my end need to cache again though, I deleted the cache folder as suggested

[steel quiver]

so is 0.6 the best rn?

[plucky stump]

yeah after creating cache your memory usage should return to default usage

[steel quiver]

where is the cache folder?

oh nvm

the asset bundles all in the one folder right?

[plucky stump]

yeah

[plucky stump]

Here the list of top mods that takes a lot of time to load

[steel quiver]

would that include using a lot of ram mod s

[plucky stump]

here sorted by GC (ram) allocation

[slim silo]

Yo

How did you do that

[grand coral]

Ooh are you testing with my pack? ;o

[plucky stump]

yeah

[grand coral]

😄

I recognized a lot of the mods lol

[plucky stump]

made unity to think this is development build

[slim silo]

Could you please show mine modpack too

That's sick

[plucky stump]

sure send your modpack code

[plucky stump]

note: this is already with cached uncompressed bundles

[slim silo]

Ok wait a bit

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[granite ravine]

😔

[plucky light]

oh yeah, been meaning to ask, do the size of the decompressed assetbundles in the cahce folder represent how much ram the mods take up? trying to make sure my modpack doesn't completely eat all my freind's ram when they run it

[steel quiver]

could you do mine too... lol

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[granite ravine]

Depends on the dev aswell 😛

[plucky stump]

depends on how mod loads assets

some mods just load assetbundle and then all assets inside

meaning that all assets are stored to the memory and will be only cleaned after sometime (only if mod dev doesn't hold reference to that asset)

[plucky light]

ah icic

alright well thanks for clearing that up

[grand coral]

I will say why does GI use so much ram compared to everything else? 🤔

[plucky stump]

iirc probably due to configs

[grand coral]

Eesh

[plucky stump]

bepinex configuration manager do a lot of stuff

[grand coral]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense

[plucky stump]

so if mod has a lot of config options then yea it will take gc allocation

[grand coral]

GI's config could use a rework at some point

It's pretty bloated

[plucky stump]

sorry I cannot check your modpack

don't want to mess up with AC

[slim silo]

Thx ⭐

Didn't expect Custom Death Penalty to take a lot of time

[steel quiver]

here without AC 0190238d-b2d3-9e17-a1c8-262ddff9701d

[grand coral]

@pastel hound Any idea why Vega likes to load so slowly?

lol

[pastel hound]

55 mbs of audio more or less, that's probably why

[grand coral]

That would likely make sense actually

[plucky stump]

isn't because of using native voice recognition API?

[grand coral]

Could be that too

[pastel hound]

That too yeah it needs to load the engine

[plucky stump]

and then registering a lot of respond actions

[granite ravine]

55 isn’t much

[grand coral]

Yeah it's probably the stuff DiFFoZ said

[plucky stump]

here

all 10mb of gc allocation is because of configuration

and time to load

[grand coral]

Also @tepid plank LGU could probably use a config revamp too at some point, to lower ram usage :3

LGU is huge

XD

[pastel hound]

Yeah, it loads the asset bundle, generates the config, loads the speech recognition engine, registers the phrases and some more stuff

[plucky stump]

o, um GI looks like search for some mods, so that's why there's high GC allocation

[grand coral]

Fun lol

[grand coral]

I'm guessing for LGU it's mostly the config

[plucky stump]

yeah

[slim silo]

What options increase GI ram usage,

?*

[grand coral]

The config itself, plus the mods it looks for

If it has a lot of config options it adds to memory usage

[slim silo]

[grand coral]

I've been saying I think GI is a pretty bloated mod, I mostly still have it for the monitor features

[slim silo]

GI needs optimization, i have it for other features

But it's crazy that GI takes more than More Company + LLL

[plucky stump]

isn't this helping with configuration overhead https://canary.discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1236679733689716870 ?

[grand coral]

It caused some bugs with Vega for me, but I can try readding it and see if it works okay after saving Vega's config stuff

If you want you can test and see if it makes GI and LGU use less ram

Yeah it's fine now, idk why I had issues with that one setting for Vega before

[steel quiver]

@plucky stump could you check my profile whenever you aren’t busy? 0190238d-b2d3-9e17-a1c8-262ddff9701d

[grand coral]

01902400-161c-3af2-3f7f-b1bd9f5756c1 @plucky stump updated version of my pack with Terbium readded

[plucky stump]

yeah ill check later

[plucky stump]

welp, im happy with this result

|| now I need to P-rank act 2 💀 ||

[iron edge]

what am i looking at

[plucky light]

it's ok I got 2 hours my first try

[plucky stump]

https://tenor.com/view/thy-end-is-now-gif-18153971514165038770

[iron edge]

i have more questions than asnwer now 😂

[steel quiver]

is the first image for the game to load and second ram?

[plucky stump]

yes