Emblem

[serene kelp]

oh ya that would absolutely take longer, I feel bad enough with Emblem being 8mb

[serene kelp]

So unity needs to convert the image to sprite textures, the only thing I can recommend trying is to make sure the image is saved in sRGB colorspace instead of RGB which is used for print media

y'all can test this version, which I've adjusted the png to sprite conversion to maybe work a bit better, beyond this and sRGB, the only other possible thing would be LC's built-in materials doing weird stuff

sorry I should be in bed but that's that was bugging me

[delicate jungle]

Go to bed!

[delicate jungle]

I’m at work 😭

[gusty crag]

(btw you aren't allowed to upload straight DLLs anymore in this server, xu will smite you, id recommend seeing up a GitHub and using GitHub releases, they are faster than thunderstore)

[delicate jungle]

🥶

[unreal atlas]

should probably say this in #1178407269994594435 too

[delicate jungle]

General Kenobi!

[serene kelp]

Yaa, that would be smart

[serene kelp]

Current list:

• Tie MP4 audio to master volume settings
• MP4's chosen randomly if directory set instead of single file

[sudden canopy]

pst

[sharp cosmos]

My olny issue with this mod now is the version # persisting through to the loading screen

[sudden canopy]

@serene kelp

Off topic, but

https://tenor.com/view/hear-me-out-eggman-sonic-sonic-adventure2-gif-25292376

I see you have made a beautiful modpack

And I am trying to get modpack representation on this discord server

https://tenor.com/view/postal-postal2-postal-dude-petition-postal-petition-gif-24359792

so if you would like to help our voice get a bit louder

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1222281188341977239

[serene kelp]

Cool!

[sharp cosmos]

@serene kelp any way to make the background not squish/stretch for wider images?

[serene kelp]

Be more specific

[sharp cosmos]

16:9

21:9

got permission for the image but I need to fix this first

[serene kelp]

It shouldn't be squishing horizontally, dm me the image file, I'll fix

[sharp cosmos]

@delicate jungle u got those values for me? 😢

[delicate jungle]

yes one sec

i had stuff irl and got exhausted

its 0:29 and im going to work at 6:00 so imma head back to sleep soon

70,232,167,1

[frank harbor]

is your modpack out?

[serene kelp]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/
Bugfixes added, Master volume and ultrawide support

No multiple mp4's yet, needs more refactoring first

[sharp cosmos]

Will be uploading the wallpaper from that artist tmrw 🙂
He's excited about it

[sharp cosmos]

It is but big update releasing tmrw. A lot of balancing issues had to be addressed

[worn fulcrum]

Bruhh, I was thinking the same thing for quite a while about this. Why there's no modpack section

[zealous locust]

Hey, love your mod! But I struggle with something, when I try to put a video for the background it just don't load at all and leave me with a black bg, can you help me?

I tried to just put the path of the folder and also a direct path to the mp4 file

[delicate jungle]

You have to be specific with it

[zealous locust]

I have this mp4 file (Just downloaded a random video for test purposes) and I tried to put in the config :
config/Emblem/Background/Varien.mp4 and config/Emblem/Background/
But neither of those work, I just have a black baground when in the menu

[delicate jungle]

For pngs:
config/Emblem/MYMENU/Background

For mp4s:
config/Emblem/MYMENU/Background/mymenu.mp4

Because you have to have a custom folder inside Emblem/

[zealous locust]

Ohhh, will try, just give me a sec

[delicate jungle]

Otherwise it would try to find the embed version folder

I dig your theme btw can you show us a sneakpeak? 👀

Oh its just a test nvm i didnt read that part 😂

[zealous locust]

Still just a black background xd

[delicate jungle]

Can you screenshot the config file?

[zealous locust]

I can show you what my modpack look like rn (I'm making an update to it, so it's a test version of it i'm using)

[delicate jungle]

And the folder pathing where it is

[delicate jungle]

I suspect the profiles making it path wrongly idk. I always set up things in offline settings (from steam with manually downloading mods)

[zealous locust]

Here's a sneakpeak 👀

[delicate jungle]

Ohh nice

What colours will be the buttons?

Or are you planning to have them stay that way?

[zealous locust]

Don't know yet, I have 3 backgrounds, so I would need to choose a color that is visible on the 3 of them

Maybe letting them like that

[zealous locust]

I always have a profile for testing purpose, and it never bugged, so idk xd

When I setup a background image it work properly but when it's the video it don't work

[delicate jungle]

Yeah videos dont switch just yet

I use profiles to play 😂

Noprofiles for modding purposes

[zealous locust]

Don't know if people already succeed to play a video on the background but maybe my problem come from this code?

(I'm a bit sleepy ngl, so I can be wrong xD)

Found the problem i think

[serene kelp]

The codec must be h264

[serene kelp]

Ohhhh you want me to add it as one of the defaults for Emblem? If so I need to see a screenshot where permission was granted and the requested name of the .png

[serene kelp]

Videos in unity explicitly need to use absolutely paths rather than relative ones which are acceptable for images

I will do some testing with the video you referenced, but for now I believe the issue would nost likely be not using H264 encoding

[zealous locust]

It worked! Thanks

I converted the video with h264 and it's good now

[serene kelp]

Beauty! For a second I thought id busted something with last nights update

[zealous locust]

If it's only with h264 and you can't do with other codec try to say it in the config, so you won't have other people tell you the same thing xD

I used the first youtube mp4 website i've found and they use avi codec

And a lil suggestion, don't know if it's possible:
Add a "loop video" option

[serene kelp]

Ahh ya, Ill mention it in the config next update ty!

[zealous locust]

Np bro!

Also just thought of something else

[serene kelp]

If anyone has an ultrawide mp4 i can tedt with plz dm it to me

[zealous locust]

When you update the mod and we download the update with Thunderstore, since the mod contain the folder with the Header, it get overwritten, so imagine creating a custom header, and when people update the mod, it just straight up replace the custom header

[serene kelp]

You should make your own subfolder in the emblem config folder containing custom files, that way it won't be overwritten

[zealous locust]

Oh yeah, i'm stoopid xd

https://www.pexels.com/video/beautiful-green-wide-river-2330730/
Should be an ultra wide video

[serene kelp]

Ty

[zealous locust]

3840 x 2160 16:9

[serene kelp]

If it stretches vertically and the sides get cutoff on normal widescreen then we good, if not then i gotta fix

I gotta head to work, won't be back to desk for 10hrs

[fleet crane]

Is it working fine with AC

[serene kelp]

Cool! That's surprising, Header and loading images disabled tho?

[fleet crane]

I think so

it gives error, so I guess they gotta stay disabled

[serene kelp]

Ya, potentially i could find a workaround but if the AC dev doesn't want it messed with then probably shouldn't

[sharp cosmos]

I was thinking more so a dedicated page for his artwork. Got his signature but I'm at work right now so when I get back I can photoshop everything in.

Have the thunderstore page be an advertisement for his artwork

[serene kelp]

The emblem page?

[fleet crane]

So how do we add menu music, with sound api or with Emblem mod mp4 video

[delicate jungle]

now you can add with emblem, but you need bongo's api to add a silent background music to disable it

kinda wanky solution but it works 😅

[fleet crane]

that's very good, easy solution 😄

when the video end, start looping again, right

[delicate jungle]

yeah it does with the music too

[fleet crane]

nice

any good AI generator, to get some ideas 😄

[serene kelp]

I use Dall-e but anything works really

[fleet crane]

So with AdvancedCompany the Header and Loading images will not work?

How did you make the mp4 work, does it have to be some specific size?

[delicate jungle]

what is the issue for you? it doesnt load up?

its 1920x1080

#1220909278198497410 message

newest is going to come out soon too

[fleet crane]

looking good

I guess I put the wrong res, tnx bro

[serene kelp]

No they won't play nicely together

[serene kelp]

... Yet

[sudden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hear-me-out-eggman-sonic-sonic-adventure2-gif-25292376

[sharp cosmos]

For those of you who've been asking for my main menu background: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Enratic/Siris_Artistic_Backgrounds/

• 4K
• Ultrawide and Standard display compatible

Support the artist: https://siricanis.carrd.co/

[pallid river]

Do videos not work on loading screen yet?

[sharp cosmos]

The game hangs when loading so is there a need for them to? 🤔

[pallid river]

there is for me

[sharp cosmos]

Like it wouldn't play

[pallid river]

it only accepts .png files for the loading sequence

[sharp cosmos]

🤷‍♂️ Whenever dark wakes up tmwr, they can give a definitive answer

[fluid mist]

I will say there is an issue I have with this mod and that is that it completely bloats the config folder which makes r2 easily reach it's file export size limit

[pallid river]

I dont even know why its in there tbh

[fluid mist]

I don't either I personally think it needs to be changed so it goes in plugins and just have the mod config go in the config directory

I removed it from my pack due to it bloating the configs section

[sharp cosmos]

luckily it's changable via config. So you can make a new folder in the root directory of your pack

ie within BepInEx/

[fluid mist]

It's true but it's better for the mod to natively update it that way, so people who import the pack don't have their config folders get bloated

[pallid river]

What it needs to be is a config within a mod, that emblem reads from. Not one config for every theme. It's gonna cause overlap and will need manual adjustment

[gusty crag]

should extract soundapi's system so other mods can also build off of it

[sharp cosmos]

For anyone who wishes to support ultrawide users you can use this guide to make your images fit both aspect ratios nicely. Included is a shitty vignette effect and guidelines for the text menu on both aspect ratios. All to help you guys design your menus to fit nicely

[pallid river]

Wouldnt you need two images for that?

[serene kelp]

It was in plugins initially, but thunderstore destroys subfolder organization if you do it that way

If people don't like having the organization, they certainly can switch to any folder they like with BepInEx as root

[serene kelp]

Main menu background mp4s will continue to loop through the loading screen, you will hear the audio but not see the Video.

There is no plans to add mp4 options to header or loading sections

[pallid river]

is there a technical reason for that?

[serene kelp]

Yes, the video plays onsceneload and ends when the scene ends. The mainmenu and loading screen are in the same scene

[pallid river]

and the scene ends when you enter a loading screen?

[serene kelp]

When you enter the ship

[unreal atlas]

first time trying video background, seems like there's a filter/blending mode in-game, but ig it's fine for this specific video

[serene kelp]

The game has its own shaders happening everywhere

[unreal atlas]

yeah, really messy

[pallid river]

Wouldnt that mean a video on the loading screen would still be possible?

[serene kelp]

Potentially, its a lot of code for a second video, since the background video continues to play it would be easier to make the loading screen background transparent

[pallid river]

play both and make the main menu background fully transparent?

[serene kelp]

I don't understand

Just set your canvas color to 0,0,0,0 and see what happens

[pallid river]

Can you play both the main menu video and loading screen video at the same time, and swap them out/hide one when entering a loading screen

[unreal atlas]

just say
main menu video = top layer
loading screen video = bottom layer

when loading, hide main menu video or make loading screen video top layer

[pallid river]

essentially

[serene kelp]

I didn't even want to add video at all, i will look into this but no guarantees. This would require finding the exact event that triggers the loading screen appearance which i have been avoiding since it already took a day of my time with no results

[delicate jungle]

I think loadingscreen video should only be a gif at most, theres just a couple sec there

But imo not nessecary.

[pallid river]

mp4's are actually better when it comes to filesize at that resolution

[delicate jungle]

Tho its always good to have options

[unreal atlas]

me who can't use loading screen:

[delicate jungle]

True

[unreal atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-boy-walk-away-cry-man-tears-gif-5637398

[unreal atlas]

hmmm looking for suggestions

maybe i should remove the grain

[delicate jungle]

Wow this looks amazing

[unreal atlas]

kinda hard to decide stuff

[delicate jungle]

Just make it disappear and reappear again

[unreal atlas]

now im feeling what you felt

[unreal atlas]

which

header?

[delicate jungle]

The grain

[unreal atlas]

ah

hmm...

[delicate jungle]

Im also working on one that is a bit similar in that aspect

But be aware that ig it looks a lot darker (unity messes with the saturation)

[unreal atlas]

that black to white kinda hurts my eyes

[delicate jungle]

Yeah it still needs some work

[pallid river]

brighten edges only or the brightest spots only

[unreal atlas]

maybe i should put my header back to the left, though it's kinda hard to find a sweet spot that's why i just put it to center for now

[delicate jungle]

I’d actually put it to the right

Or wait nvm

[sharp cosmos]

Nope

[delicate jungle]

Moon would be covered

[sudden canopy]

me when the

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-trollface-rain-the-first-trollge-incident-gif-22327227

[serene kelp]

What is the limit and what issues is it causing?

[fluid mist]

so the file size limit for mod pack code exports is 20 mb, when I export a code with emblem in my pack it makes the size go way up for code exports compared to if the emblem files in the config section are deleted

It makes it almost hit that limit, and in a couple cases it even did

[unreal atlas]

yeah... grain is expensive bitrate wise, if bitrate is too low it just blends and becomes pixel loss (i think)

[serene kelp]

That's really strange, I had assumed that image files don't transfer and it would only look at cfgs and jsons. Will look at moving default images into a .assets bundle. Then will probably move the default folders back to plugins but will try to find a way to preserve folder structure. Obviously having mp4's and images attempt to move with a profile code is not intended. Thanks for this!

[fluid mist]

You're very welcome!!!

[fleet crane]

https://streamable.com/mj0rrj?src=player-page-share

actually, can I send this

or I will go to jail, because it's kinda link

[delicate jungle]

Bro these are actually crazy

I’d say leave the questionable part for your friends (and me pls) and put a clean version up

[fleet crane]

need more touch, but it's getting somewhere

[delicate jungle]

That menu is actually above my level quite the amount.. i feel a bit envious 😒F u but great work 😂

[fleet crane]

Thank you bro, I actually looked your mods, to see how you put everything together, so you are above my level too mate 🍻

[serene kelp]

So my current list:

• Look into how a loading screen background png/mp4 would work
• Move media assets out of config folder since profile codes are breaking with too may bytes trying to transfer

[serene kelp]

getting closer..

[serene kelp]

Been avoiding having to rename config options up to this point because it means all you guys's existing configs will have to be reworked a bit, but I think the next update you'll have to do it sadly, I do apologize.

I'll try to make sure that they won't need to change again in the future, the feature list is growing and the organization needs some love

[pallid river]

Ive had to rewrite large sections of my soundAPI configs, this is nothing lol

[serene kelp]

cool, I've got the loading screen png and mp4 options working, but haven't tackled one stopping and the other starting yet

they both just load and go right away, so if theres audio on both they will overlap

[pallid river]

SoundAPI has a "check every frame" function for changing sounds on the go, maybe you could hook into it like that?

[serene kelp]

It's not so much the sound, I can pause and start the video on any kind of trigger really

[serene kelp]

this is a lot

[gusty crag]

i can share with you my inprogress auto config generator from a class

[serene kelp]

oh that could be fun eh

[gusty crag]

uhh one sec i need to put it in a gist

its not the best but it handles stuff pretty well

[serene kelp]

Ya, i'm pretty amateur when it comes to this stuff

[gusty crag]

https://gist.github.com/LoafOrc/27ff708fae01a55f9fcfb1f5de12ad3c

[serene kelp]

boolean switched for everything but now I'm thinking just having the config set to anything other than default should be what enables the feature

[serene kelp]

this is pretty cool

[gusty crag]

yeah been learning reflection and attributes to make cool stuff

it also uses unitys built in stuff so if you write stuff in a way that looks nice in the inspector it will work in config

[serene kelp]

very nice

[serene kelp]

Ya this will be a pretty big update codewise, maybe not feature wise, might finish this weekend might not

Loading/Main will have separate background color, image, mp4 settings tho

[delicate jungle]

Any update is good! If its only an update, that makes your workspace cleaner thats also great

[serene kelp]

lol ty

[delicate jungle]

But make sure you take a little break too on the holiday! It can be tiring working nonstop on a project even tho you love working on it

Im sending you on an obligatory vacation

[serene kelp]

ya, we are smoking a turkey and a ham saturday, gonna be epic

[delicate jungle]

Lemme guess ‘murica

[serene kelp]

Colder than that

[delicate jungle]

Aah the polite americans xd

I actually loved Canada, been there once

[serene kelp]

We enjoy it, bedtime for me, going to break something trying to code with one eye open

[delicate jungle]

Its 7am for me, good night!

[serene kelp]

So folks, I'm in the process of completely redoing the configs, wondering if anyone has opinions on the order that the options appear?

[serene kelp]

Theres new features in here

[honest grotto]

YAY CANADA!

🇨🇦

[unreal atlas]

there's barely any grain in this reencoded recording and its still expensive af

[serene kelp]

This is great tho!

getting closer to clean configs...

next version you will be able to leave the header paths blank, and it will use no image there at all

[serene kelp]

Have a few ideas in the works:

• Option for loading screen to use same background as main menu
• Alpha and scale config for Loading logos
• Remove redundant text wrap option for loading text

[fleet crane]

Can you add option, before the menu screen shows up, to have a video that you can watch or skip, like in other games, like trailer video before the game starts

[serene kelp]

That is a cool idea but holy that sounds like a lot, also it's outside of the MainMenu scene which is the focus of this mod, so probably an idea for a different mod.

Ya the scene for that would be after initSceneLaunchOptions but inside initScene either before or after the existing scrolling terminal text

[fleet crane]

Is this going to break loading of some mods

[serene kelp]

it would probably have some complex bugs associated with it yeah

[fleet crane]

Well then, let's enjoy emblem for now, for the better 😄

[serene kelp]

If anyone wants to test a prerelease for 1.2.0 just dm me, it needs testing before release

[harsh badge]

is their an option to pick some preset colors for text instead of having to go look it up n have to back out n come back to see how they look

[serene kelp]

Not really, you could maybe use some sortof color picker tool othe web

[harsh badge]

how do i keep just one background instead of it rotating all the presets ones? i just delete the onesin the folder i dont like?

[serene kelp]

No, the defaults will come back, they aren't meant to be changed, you would add your own and specify the file you want to use

[pallid river]

make sure you move the defaults out of configs too

[serene kelp]

This is coming

[serene kelp]

So I'm thinking the default images will live at BepInEx/plugins/Darkbrewery-Emblem/
While custom user images will go at BepInEx/plugins/Author-Modname/

Since randomly named folders will be ignored, we will have to go this way

[serene kelp]

Oh wait I think I found a better solution... maybe
by adding a BepInEx folder in my mod I can workaround the folders collapsing, have uploaded a test to see how the structure comes back after installing

[pallid river]

You weren't doing that already..?

[serene kelp]

lol no, it's not implied

Might be crazy but this will probably work, just waiting for the test to propagate back to r2modman

[pallid river]

It definitely should, its what ive been doing this whole time and have had no issues with folder structure

[serene kelp]

Ya I honestly think it's a bug because Ebkr who wrote r2modman designed it to flatten subfolders
Emblem.zip/plugins/something flattens something
Emblem.zip/BepInEx/plugins/something does not flatten something

[pallid river]

If it is, it shouldnt be fixed

[serene kelp]

ikr, pretty sure this is how customsounds, moresuits etc had their own subfolders workings

[pallid river]

100 times easier for the end user to put things to a folder and have the mod know exactly what to do with it, than specify for each file

[serene kelp]

Well ya, upload an emblem theme and have it not work, going back and forth 4 times is a nightmare

[trim yoke]

No it’s not

[zealous locust]

Hey mate, where did you find this background?

[trim yoke]

By this, do you an you’ve been doing /BepInEx/plugins/ in your package structure?

because if you are, only /plugins is being read

[pallid river]

I dont get it

[trim yoke]

With the message i replied to

Give me an example of a package you meant

[pallid river]

Most mods i've downloaded manually come with a "BepInEx/plugins/Mod name/Actual files" structure

I upload mine to thunderstore with the same structure, folder structure is retained in r2m

[trim yoke]

but it isn't

this is your structure

this is the output

[pallid river]

Yes?

[trim yoke]

at least my point in the message that I responded to is that /BepInEx isn't an override folder, it's a flattened folder

but plugins is an override folder and so is then extracted as you'd expect

basically, there is nothing wrong with the docs

[pallid river]

So you're saying excluding the bepinex folder from your uploaded files will still function the same way?

[trim yoke]

yes, like it says in the docs

[pallid river]

And you've tried it?

[trim yoke]

i mean i literally make it

[pallid river]

that would make a lot of sense

[trim yoke]

but here's a working example for you

I've modified your zip to include the folder and file

I've then imported it locally, but changed the author name to Unknown

As you can see, FolderExpectedInBepInExRoot doesn't exist where you'd think

and the folder contents is then flattened into plugins, aka, the default location for files not in an override folder

[pallid river]

Most people seem to still include bepinex in there. Wonder why

[trim yoke]

people don't read the docs and just do what other packages do

[trim yoke]

it doesn't really matter that people include the BepInEx folder, it's more just that I'm proving a point in that this message is incorrect

and i was trying to get a working example with your upload

[pallid river]

Why is "bepinex" included at the top of the override page?

[trim yoke]

override folders for BepInEx games

there's an identical section below for MelonLoader

[pallid river]

Figures

Not much you can do about it now, people are gonna keep doing it

[trim yoke]

again, i don't care that people do it

just correcting the false info because BepInEx is not an override folder and does not behave like one

I think the confusion is that the override directories don't have to be in the root of the zip, they are located from anywhere

[serene kelp]

this is great thank you for the input!

[trim yoke]

but yeah including the BepInEx folder has no functional difference and I actually prefer that people do because it's nicer for the end user

[trim yoke]

it's all good lmao, but yeah it's not a bug, the BepInEx folder is actually treated as a flattened folder and because it has no files then it doesn't have an output in the plugins folder

[pallid river]

Am I misremembering or is the manual installation of bepinex a different path?

[trim yoke]

<game dir>/BepInEx

instead of <profile dir>/BepInEx

[pallid river]

After that I mean

[trim yoke]

no difference

[pallid river]

Yeah I can see how it'd make it easier to understand for the end user.
A bit annoying too, since you have to manually pull the files instead of dropping it into plugins and extracting...

[serene kelp]

I'm just trying to find the optimal place for users to add custom MP4 and PNG's since the entire config folder appears to packaged with profile codes somehow including non text files

[pallid river]

Just do it similarly to SoundAPI; .json in mod creator's mod folder with the right pathing and settings, your mod finds and reads each json and figures out what to do from there

[serene kelp]

Well really I have it setup so the path config option is relative to BepInEx, they can put files anywhere

Honestly I think it would be easier to have a specific folder name, and if it's present anywhere within the BepInEx folder, then it will be used

[pallid river]

What if multiple theme mods are present?

[serene kelp]

probably just "Emblem"

[serene kelp]

Damnit, ug

[pallid river]

Also, if I were to add an "emblem" folder into my mod, i'm not even sure where it would appear

[serene kelp]

well for now defaults are gonna move to plugins/Darkbrewery-Emblem/Defaults/

but I could force the plugins folder so that the path has to be relative to BepInEx/plugins/

so now the instructions will read:

• Add custom images to your pack like this: BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Header123.png
• Add a copy of config file the same way at BepInEx/config/DarkBrewery.Emblem.cfg
• The paths config should look like plugins/Author-ModName/Emblem/Header123.png

[unreal atlas]

source was from BioShock Infinite, and I found this exact cropped video from Wallpaper Engine. then I applied all sorts of effects with Filmora, recorded the preview lossless because filmora kinda dogpoop with encoding options (couldn't preserve film grain effect), then encoded with handbrake app

[zealous locust]

Wow! It look sick mate

[unreal atlas]

it actually looks different ingame from the edited video

im 50-50 on how the vanilla ingame filter makes it look different

wait let me get a comparison

i want to release it but file size is iffy

[zealous locust]

Maybe if you install HDLethalCompany and desactivate Post-process it won't apply any filter on the background

[unreal atlas]

grain is just, expensive

didnt think of that but meh i wouldn't want to deactivate it for the main menu

[zealous locust]

I mean, if it still look good and you're happy with it, then don't change ^^

[unreal atlas]

i've spent 2 days already wrapping my head around the film grain file size issue

its my first time dipping into this stuff

i could probably split it up to 2 releases, with grain and without

without could probably be around 10-20 mb

grain, 40-70 depending on which i like

its only a 20-second video but with that much file size difference because of friggin grain

[serene kelp]

I've updated Emblem to only accept images/video stored in the BepInEx/plugins directory

well it'll be in the 1.2.0 update

[unreal atlas]

was also waiting for this for a day now 😆

i thought i should wait for the pathing fix before releasing the vids

@serene kelp also what do you use to play the video? me and my friend were testing all sorts of video encodings and profiles, and iirc some were not able to play ingame

[serene kelp]

It's coming, just not sure if I should work on it for a few more days knocking down my todo list, or release with a few things left to do

[unreal atlas]

should probably release after

[serene kelp]

aight

[unreal atlas]

game update is nearing after all

[serene kelp]

The encoding depends on what unity has built in, all I know is h.264

[unreal atlas]

i know av1 h264 h265 work if profile is main, not but i think it didnt work for some 444, not sure if it was high444 or main444

idk, i barely even understand what those actually are

[serene kelp]

I think there might be limited AV1 support but that would mean I gotta change some code. H264 should work everytime

[unreal atlas]

i've been mostly testing with av1 and h265 because i need to preserve grain and still have an acceptable file size

the ~900mb lossless recording source i've been working with i've gotten to around an 40-70mb with an acceptable film grain preservation

i think from what i noticed, some of the encodings i've tried stuttered in-game (when the video ends and starts again)

[serene kelp]

ya just a brief look around the unity docs, think your stuck with H264 video with AAC Audio

[unreal atlas]

nah 265 works fine i think

or maybe thats because i have lav filters or something because i have klite codec pack installed, idk

[serene kelp]

Oh cool! Ya, here's the info:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/VideoSources-FileCompatibility.html

WebM with VP8 looks like another option, lemme know if you get higher quality vs the filesize, I might be able to add support for that

[unreal atlas]

ooh nice link

first time hearing vp8

i don't see it in handbrake too

[pallid river]

you'll have to changee the other settings

[serene kelp]

the rez is set to 1920x1080 in Emblem, I need to change that so it fits the screen vertically then adjusts width based on original video aspect ratio

[pallid river]

afaik AV1 is actually a more efficient format compared to H26

[serene kelp]

just in case someone wants to use an ultrawide video

[unreal atlas]

been testing with it, it's hard to keep file size lower than x265 while having better quality

also the encoding speed is painfully slower for me since i don't really have much cores (6) to use

my friend had 32 so he was able to encode ~10x faster than me 🥹

[pallid river]

I found 30 fps on peak and average bitrate with multipass encoding works very well to reduce size while keeping quality

[unreal atlas]

we've tried average bitrate, with and without multipass, it kills the film grain

gets turned to blocks/pixel loss

smoothing per se

it makes sense because film grain adds a lot of variation per frame

[pallid river]

if you have film grain it being removed is basically impossible to avoid when compressing :P

[unreal atlas]

yeah, that's why i had to spend time messing around with encoding, its possible to compress it ~80-90% in file size while keeping an acceptable amount

still expensive

but i love the vibe it adds

i actually hated grain back then

but when i worked with this main menu thingy

it just clicked

[pallid river]

Hey uhh... Hey brew... Can we add a second semi-transparent video ontop to add film grain afterward

[unreal atlas]

thats the best option if i we want to keep video sizes low

but then that's another hell for brew to explore, video alpha

[pallid river]

Yeah...

|| ||

[unreal atlas]

in game filter makes the video dark, which in turn kills the grain i added, so yeah def will release a version without the grain

also this x264 encoding kills me inside because the grain here gets smoothed out (blocky)

[pallid river]

ah yes, seizure warning on the main menu, incredible

[unreal atlas]

i guess i'll work on the non-grain version for now, since it's really hard to get a good grain version

[pallid river]

How big is the file?

[unreal atlas]

which

[pallid river]

menu

the grain one

[unreal atlas]

currently 70mb

[pallid river]

jesus

[unreal atlas]

i could get it down to 40mb

but parts of it (the grain) just looks stuck or frozen

[pallid river]

Brok my longest loading screens are like 2mb at most lol

[unreal atlas]

😂

grain is THAT expensive

it's also just 30fps 1080p, 20 seconds

so 600 frames

[pallid river]

100kb per frame

[unreal atlas]

yeah

around 116 on avg

i think the last time i tested, with grain, lossless was 880mb, without was ~200-300mb

[serene kelp]

Sent u something

[unreal atlas]

so i saw filmora had webm (vp8) encoding, tested it on the non-grain version, god it's bad

takes up more file size and it's blocky af

[pallid river]

Rule breaker, rule breaker! You are banned from the daycare!

[unreal atlas]

non grain is ~15mb, has some blocky parts for a few seconds (24mb source really just has them gradients, too much color information)

[serene kelp]

damn

[serene kelp]

I'm writing a set of instructions for the new version, lemme know if this reads alright:

Do not make changes or add anything to folders or files within the Darkbrewery-Emblem/Defaults folder

Instead create your own place for images within the plugins directory

For testing be sure to create a folder within BepInEx/plugins that follows the thunderstore naming convention of Author-Modname

Then in your cfg, point to these using paths relative to BepInEx/plugins like this:
- Author-Modname/Emblem/Header/Header123.png
- Author-Modname/Emblem/Background
- Author-Modname/Emblem/Video/Awesomevideo.mp4

In your Modpack or Theme mod zipfie, the structure is slightly different and should be done like this:
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Header
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Background
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Loading
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Video
- BepInEx/config/Darkbrewery-Emblem.cfg

[delicate jungle]

You managed to change the pathing to plugins?

[serene kelp]

yepp, i'll send u the dev version

[pallid river]

Still wondering how you plan on handling multiple themes being installed

[delicate jungle]

I could only work in it on tuesday

By that time youll release it lol

[serene kelp]

Don't have plans for multiple themes other than users enabling/disabling inside their modmanager instance

[delicate jungle]

Its okay I can work around it!

Also someone could make a fork for it later 👀

[pallid river]

Dont understand this part, why does it have to be packaged like this?

[delicate jungle]

Oh the video and the background goes to different places?

[serene kelp]

Thunderstore adds the Author-Modname part

[serene kelp]

Doesn't matter you can organize however you want

Jam em all in one folder

[delicate jungle]

Oh nice so the update wont break my mods for now :p

[serene kelp]

It will because the config has been completely rewritten

[delicate jungle]

😳

Aight at least i know what to do on tuesday before anything else lmao

[serene kelp]

Ya sorry, the old vaules are still there just don't delete the file, transfer old fields to new fields then manually edit the config file to remove the old ones

[delicate jungle]

All good

[serene kelp]

Revised instructions

Do not add or modify the Darkbrewery-Emblem/Defaults folder

Instead create your own place for images within the plugins directory

For testing, create a folder within BepInEx/plugins that follows the thunderstore naming convention of Author-Modname
Where author is the user you upload with and Modname is the name of your theme/modpack ex: "LittleJohnny-BeetleJuiceTheme"

Then in your cfg, point to these using paths relative to BepInEx/plugins like this:
- Author-Modname/Emblem/Header/Header123.png
- Author-Modname/Emblem/Background
- Author-Modname/Emblem/Video/Awesomevideo.mp4

In your Modpack or Theme mod zipfie, the structure is slightly different and should be this way:
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Header
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Background
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Loading
- BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/Video
- BepInEx/config/Darkbrewery-Emblem.cfg

The reason for this is thunderstore will add your `Author-Modname` between BepInEx/plugins and /Emblem when you upload

JacuJ suggested that for random mp4's it would be easier to just have a comma separated list and randomly select from that. Think this is a good idea rather than using prefix's

[delicate jungle]

Yes i agree

So it would look like BepInEx/s1ckboysThemes/Emblem/Video/menu1.mp4 , menu2.mp4 ?

[serene kelp]

no your config would look similair to this
s1ckboy-SCP_Theme/Emblem/Whatever/SCP1.mp4, s1ckboy-SCP_Theme/Emblem/Whatever/SCP2.mp4

[delicate jungle]

Oh i see

Aight ty

[zealous locust]

Hey, just saw a lil thing in the config, you put a textbox instead of a dropdown for this

And also here

[zealous locust]

I tried filmora, it's good and have pretty good glitch effect, but almost everything is premium..

[zealous locust]

Here is what I made as a test, but can't export it because I need to pay (so I recorded the preview with obs), and tbh, don't really want to put 60€ into that lmao ( @delicate jungle if you want to see too)
WARNING CONTAIN FLASHING LIGHTS

[delicate jungle]

What part of this is the one u need to pay for?

Cuz from the looks of it it is fairly simple

Btw looks great!

[unreal atlas]

i did a trick. you "try" the effect then preview it in filmora, then record it with obs (i do lossless recording, then use handbrake app to reencode the video to lower size)

you should be able to full screen the preview

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-epic-epic-embed-fail-gif-21570335

ah there

if this is the path you take, i recommend having 1 second solid color (that will make it obvious that its the before the start and should not be included) at the start and end of the edit

then just remove those parts by not including those frames in the range

[unreal atlas]

enter the preview while the video is paused, once it is in full screen you wait for the bottom control ui to go down then you press "space" to start the video and press your obs start recording hotkey too

[serene kelp]

Pretty sure those are old depreciated config fields, everything uses y-offset instead of centering now

[delicate jungle]

v50 spoiler do not open unless you want to get spoiled, its regarding this mod ||heard theres a cutscene at launch, could it affect emblem?||

[acoustic berry]

THERE'S WHAT

[delicate jungle]

Im on phone :/

v50 code diffs: https://1a3.uk/tools/diff_viewer?cdn=lc_v50

[serene kelp]

Looks like zeekers added a new cinematic scene for first time viewers, doesn't affect mainmenu scene thankfully

I've just spent literally all day redoing the way header and loading images are handled, its been a lot

[delicate jungle]

What did you change?

[serene kelp]

Added alpha and scale options for loading images, refactored pretty much everything, found abuch of vanilla settings theat were messing with things, reset all those

This isn't the full list

[delicate jungle]

Woow

[serene kelp]

Lol pretty much still the same, just works better

[delicate jungle]

You’ve been cooking for real

[serene kelp]

Well my features list is empty, tomorrow ill do some testing and upload the new version, hopefully not too buggy but we will see. Anticipating a lot of frustration with users adding custom images tho

[zealous locust]

New version i'm doing in Davinci Studio, like always WARNING FLASHING LIGHTS 🙂

[delicate jungle]

Im lovin it

[zealous locust]

After doing that i'll need to make a icon for the modpack, and god know I hate doing that

Rn the icon is an AI generated image lmao

[delicate jungle]

Lmao

[delicate jungle]

I actually feel relieved when im working on icons 👀

This looks really great

Tho i would make the font a bit different

[zealous locust]

I'm not an artist xd i'm more of a only god know what i'm doing and tbh even he sometime struggle to understand xD
I prefer coding

[zealous locust]

I tried searching for a font but found nothing

And the icon isn't really what I have in head for my modpack :x

[delicate jungle]

I could send you a glitchy one if youd like

You’d just need to import it as a custom font

[zealous locust]

I made a "lore" to my modpack, if you want I can send it to you in DM so you have a better understanding of what's the genre of it

[delicate jungle]

Sure thing

I love lores

[fleet crane]

So now we can have our custom loading cutscene mod 😄

[delicate jungle]

Could you make it so that it always plays and its functions are basically like the menus? 👀

[pallid river]

Think you can hook emblem to other mod's UIs? Like configmanager or more company

[serene kelp]

We will see when its out

[serene kelp]

Potentially ya

[serene kelp]

Im adding an Experimental section in config. Spent a while yesterday getting blending working so background images have a transition to the background color of your choice. Eliminating the need to do it in Photoshop. Its not as good but still pretty cool.

Looks much nicer in black, light colors look godawful but whatever blows your hair back i guess

Might add a string part so you can say 'left,right,top,bottom" to specify which edges should get the vignette. Will see

[pallid river]

Think you'll be able to get rid of the effects LC applies to the main menu? @serene kelp

[serene kelp]

Still haven't found it but perhaps in time

[delicate jungle]

Let us know before releasing it with the effects removed, i’ve gotta remake my backgrounds to look better without the brightness added to them 😂

Tomorrow i will work on my themes to work with emblem since the cfg got reworked when i was taking a break so i could work on making backups for when the effect are removed

[serene kelp]

Here y'all go:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/changelog/

[serene kelp]

Seems to work on v50 so winning on that front

[fathom agate]

based

[keen oar]

@serene kelp the new emblem update broke

the backrounds gone the color of the text are gone and other stuff

[serene kelp]

Did you read the changelog?

[keen oar]

no

oh

[serene kelp]

The answers you seek are there

[keen oar]

got it

[serene kelp]

Nice

[keen oar]

do I have to use my thunderstore username for the folder

[serene kelp]

If uploading a custom theme or pack ya, it follows the thunderstore naming convention Author-ModName, there are detailed instructions in the defaults folder

[delicate jungle]

Would it also follow it without previous version uploaded?

[serene kelp]

I don't understand, can you be more specific?

[delicate jungle]

It might just be a dumb question, imma look into it in a few hours. On a train rn 🚂

[serene kelp]

Im trying to envision a better way to deal with filepaths. The current implementation is solid, but also confusing.

Briefly thinking about, It might be possible to search for any 'Emblem' folder first and then apply the user supplied path on top of that. At least that would eliminate the need to know the title of the thunderstore generated User-Modname folder.

[delicate jungle]

Its not a bad thing to have it a bit confusing too imo. Thunderstore wont be flooded with bad quality that way either 😅

I mean its a bit gatekeepy but yknow what i mean hopefully

[serene kelp]

Well ya, but im thinking about how customsounds works. Want to find a more intuitive way to work

[gusty crag]

would it benefit if i extracted the way soundapi does it and made it more generic? could be nice getting more standardisation on that but ont sure

[keen oar]

works for me

[serene kelp]

Don't think it'll take much on my end to do this now that its thought out.

[pallid river]

Cant get this to work

Because apparently it doesnt expect spaces anymore, nevermind then

[delicate jungle]

ehm

i might need some help

[delicate jungle]

actually nvm somehow it fixed itself lmao

[delicate jungle]

Do i need to go like:
s1ckboy-SCP_Theme/Emblem/Background/Background_SCP.mp4

or is it fine to go with

s1ckboy-SCPTheme/Emblem/Background/Background_SCP.mp4

?

[pallid river]

Spacebars are represented as underscores in r2m, so if "SCP Theme" then "SCP_Theme"

[delicate jungle]

yeah thats why im askin if thats how it is in emblem too

aight i'll reconfig my mods like that then

Difference between these two if its only a png?

the top one just doesnt do anything xd

nvm it does the same thing just messed up the pathing first

[serene kelp]

Looks like you guys got it figured out eh

[delicate jungle]

yea needed a bit time to adjust it

i'll upload mines today

hopefully all will work after thunderstore caching it

[serene kelp]

Ya just following the instructions hopefully will make it easier to get it working first try.

When I get home tonight ill work on searching the plugins directly for Emblem folders

[delicate jungle]

also look at this photo

let me know whats the difference

[serene kelp]

One is Loading header, the other is loading background? I use the r2modman config editor so its clearer in there

[delicate jungle]

yeah i mean i see it

oh well i guess i understand but they could do the same thing too xd

[serene kelp]

They work differently. The logo replaces the LC branded header. The background adds a new image behind everything and can be a video instead. Also only the background image can be blended with the background color

[delicate jungle]

for the loadingscreen?

i could use the same picture and did the same thing for that 3 seconds of loading xd

and also theres no header there 😳

[serene kelp]

You can also enable the background but set the path to nothing, then set loading background color to transparent. This will use the main background on the loading screen

The logo is the header, just renamed

Also just set the loading logo to nothing to disable it. Its the same as making it transparent but slightly faster because it doesn't need to convert the image

[fluid mist]

@sharp cosmos Are you gonna update the Siris Backgrounds to the new file paths?

[sharp cosmos]

yes

[fluid mist]

💜

[delicate jungle]

this is the uploaded version

to thunderstore

it doesnt find the folders or at least the images

😭

[pallid river]

You sure its loading the correct emblem.cfg?

[delicate jungle]

it cant load any other, i was working with 1.2.0 and it hasnt been updated since

this is not in offline settings, in development it worked fine. uploading it and then trying it does this

At least heres a teaser for Foxy 👀

[vague quest]

@delicate jungle you messed up the pathing
instead of s1ckboy-FNAF_Theme/Emblem/Loading it should be s1ckboy-FNAF_Theme/s1ckboy-FNAF_Theme/Emblem/Loading

[delicate jungle]

are you sure?

i guess so hmm

let me see

[vague quest]

i'm pretty sure

[pallid river]

That doesnt make sense

Unless there's a second folder called s1ckboy-FNAF_Theme inside the one r2m created, it should work

[vague quest]

i tested it with r2 and it created a second one for me

[delicate jungle]

so i could maybe just put the Emblem folder in

and then it could work with the first one

[pallid river]

Thats very weird, it shouldnt do that

[delicate jungle]

cuz its calling the s1ckboy-FNAF_Theme?

from thunderstore

[vague quest]

so i just manually downloaded it

there's a second folder called that

[delicate jungle]

could you show me?

[vague quest]

oops nvm 💀 spreading misinformation

[delicate jungle]

oof

no

you're right

i think

[vague quest]

yeah i just checked r2 and that one does contain a second folder

[delicate jungle]

cuiz in cfg i should call one thing but in reality it shouldnt be named

yeah i totally misunderstood the whole thing

but now i think i get it

[vague quest]

it creates a second folder when using r2m though and not when manually downloading

[vague quest]

ive figured out why there's a second folder @delicate jungle idk if you wanna fix it or just keep it as is

[delicate jungle]

i think i fixed it

im waiting for thunderstore cachin

[vague quest]

alright

it's fixed

[delicate jungle]

the shattered one is good?

[vague quest]

yes

[delicate jungle]

aight

time to fix all

lmao

[serene kelp]

Was there something incorrect in the embleminstructions.md file?

If so let me know which part, Ill update it

[delicate jungle]

no

it was just different and i was on n off too so that didnt help xd but figured out eventually, confu helped out 😄

Your instructions are good but i misunderstood it first

[serene kelp]

Maybe ill move the instructions to the mods root for visibility

Let me know which part was confusing, could probably be worded better

[delicate jungle]

just the whole thing about cfg needs the thunderstore way of authorname-modname and in the zip you only include plugins/emblem/etc...

its tricky but it was kinda fun figuring it out tbh

[serene kelp]

Hmm ya, figured the Author-ModName would suck. If that part can be skipped, itll make the whole mod more accessable.

[delicate jungle]

im going to bonk you

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[serene kelp]

Probably won't get it fixed tonight be we will see. Hopefully the new features are well recieved.

[delicate jungle]

i love the new cfg tbh

i missed out on a lot since last thursday

my shattered theme has a ton of loadingscreen texts

[serene kelp]

I saw the list

Pretty great

[delicate jungle]

i also wasnt sure if it lets me just keep adding on to it, but it did so its pretty neat

[serene kelp]

So i actually haven't tested the random mp4s, or the loading screen vs main mp4 transitions

[delicate jungle]

i didnt use that feature yet

[serene kelp]

Also haven't tested ultrawide mp4s, they're probably terrible

[delicate jungle]

tho i made a version where i put a loadingscreen background as a header and it looks quite sexy

[serene kelp]

That looks great, i prefer the no background on loading screen

Want to expand the experimental blend to work on loading images

But yeah the config is setup now so users have lots of options

[delicate jungle]

the vignette looks kinda good, not too much so it works nicely for some themes

[delicate jungle]

yeah the shattered one

[serene kelp]

Lol try an extreme color like green, thats what I tested with

[delicate jungle]

maybe another one?

[serene kelp]

Only works on images

[delicate jungle]

oh

you sure? cuz i vaguely see corner pieces on the right 👀

[serene kelp]

Ya the dark corners are from vanilla

[serene kelp]

Almost got this pathing thing resolved

Just testing backwards compatability and mp4s

[serene kelp]

Revised instructions for v1.2.2, hopefully this is easier

Do not add or modify the Darkbrewery-Emblem/Emblem/Defaults folder

Instead create your own folder that Emblem will use

You may name it anything you wish but it must reside within BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/

Ex: BepInEx/plugins/Emblem/MyTheme

The organization structure beyond /Emblem/ is up to you!

Then in your config, point to your files relative to your new Emblem folder,

- MyTheme/Header123.png
- MyTheme/Background
- MyTheme/Video/Awesomevideo.mp4

You do not need to include BepInEx/plugins/Author-ModName/plugins/Emblem/

The final structure being uploaded to thunderstore should look similair to this

MyTheme.zip
│
├── manifest.json
├── icon.png
├── README.md
├── *CHANGELOG.md* (optional)
│
└── BepInEx/
    │
    ├── config/
    │   └── Darkbrewery-Emblem.cfg
    │
    └── plugins/
        └── Emblem/
            ├── HeaderOfMyTheme.png
            ├── BackgroundOfMyTheme.mp4
            │
            └── Loading/
                ├── LoadingMyRandom1.png
                ├── LoadingMyRandom2.png
                └── LoadingMyRandom3.png

[serene kelp]

1.2.2

• Missed one important detail in config path descriptions

1.2.1

• Added new path conversion mechanism to help with confusing instructions!
• We now search for the plugins/*/Emblem/ folder that contains your files
• Custom Themes or ModPacks all need a 'BepInEx/plugins/Emblem' folder
• Configs use something like Myfolder/BackgroudFlyingDolphins.png and it will work
• Instructions and readme have been updated
• Moved instructions to plugin root for acessability
• Apologies for the convoluted treasure hunting
• Backwards compatible with v1.2.0
• Updated config path defaults
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/

[delicate jungle]

So with this my menus dont work again? 😭

[serene kelp]

... hopefully

[delicate jungle]

It works 👌

[serene kelp]

If you update your themes just delete the /Author-ModName/Emblem part from your path config

[delicate jungle]

So it shouldnt be called emblem either?

Oh i see

Just read the desc i think i get it

[pallid river]

yeah thats gonna be a no apparently

[serene kelp]

Not working for you?

[delicate jungle]

It is working for me

[pallid river]

Nope, black screen

It was working before this last update

Does there HAVE to be a folder called "emblem"?

[delicate jungle]

Yes

[pallid river]

Will it pick that up automatically?

[serene kelp]

It searches specifically for any Emblem folder

[pallid river]

Searches every mod right?

[serene kelp]

Yepp

[pallid river]

And then everything in the config is relative to emblem?

[serene kelp]

Yepp

The instructions.md has a breakdown

[pallid river]

Cool cool... Thats a patch

[pallid river]

Still breaking

[serene kelp]

Whats the issues?

[pallid river]

Not sure, its been randomly breaking and fixing itself. Maybe It was loading something else, idk

[serene kelp]

I could probably figure out by looking at a log

[serene kelp]

Fixed a bunch of bugs that were bothering me, got to think them through while at work today

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/

[sharp cosmos]

been busy, update tmrw

[delicate jungle]

@serene kelp i’d love if the Alpha for buttontext would ignore the highlight

So when i have a blue background and the highlight is white then i could just set the highlighted text’s alpha to 0 and it would show as blue? Like a punched through way?

[proven flume]

@delicate jungle how do you do your mp4s for your backgrounds? i'm tryna make one rn to see the process and get one for my modpack before actually posting it

and tbf just does anyone know anything to visually make mp4s, like have assets, program actions and export as a video (please dont tell me blender)

[delicate jungle]

im using sony vegas pro (ver. 12)

[honest grotto]

@serene kelp
Probably impossible feature request.

The ability to tie Audio clips and loading screen messages to specific loading screen images.

I am thinking almost like a Skyrim Loading screen experience.

This would mean that if the loading screen was taking an exceptionally long time. The images and loading messages could cycle.

[serene kelp]

That is interesting, let me have a think about it.

[serene kelp]

I don't think this is easily doable with the way Alpha values stack, could do a little research, but why wouldn't you just set the highlight text color to what you need without using transparency values?

[delicate jungle]

well it could leave room for me to have one background as blue and another as red maybe

[serene kelp]

Potentially I could add a timer and if there happens to be multiple of both loading images and loading texts, then after say 5 seconds, another of each would be loaded in randomly. Something like that

[delicate jungle]

and then their buttons would be punched out so they would change to that colour too

[serene kelp]

It would mean using the text as a mask against the highlight color, really not sure if Unity can do stuff like that. Feels like youd have to double up the texts.

[delicate jungle]

it was just an idea 😄 i didnt even have an idea how would that work on the coding side

[honest grotto]

Hmm, that could work in random cycles.

However, let's say I wanted descriptive text to appear about a monster. While the monster appeared as a background.

They would have to be synchronised.

Or a picture of an item with a description

Like this.

Shows the thing being talked about with its description.

[serene kelp]

Why not just add the text into the image? Linking text and images would be difficult without having identifiers for each text string, then a whole config on its own to synch things up

[honest grotto]

True... This would be simpler I guess.

[serene kelp]

I could then just add a feature into the experimental config that would enable loading another random loading background on a timer

[honest grotto]

Yeah, I like that. Allow it to support videos as well. Then you can have like 10s long videos with animation and text.

Now we just need to have an audio clip play apart from displayed pictures or videos.

Probably doable with LoaForc?

[serene kelp]

Audio right now works from mp4s, or you can use loaforcs soundapi to replace the mainmenu theme

Probably wand to use soundapi to disable the thememusic anyway if your mp4 has a music track already

I stayed up way too late last night trying to get an old CRT monitor effect over the whole menu, didn't quite get there

[delicate jungle]

i'd love that!

[honest grotto]

@serene kelp
For some reason clicking any button, for example going into settings, stops all menu music with the newest emblem.

[sudden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-trollface-rain-the-first-trollge-incident-gif-22327227

I know one day

I’ll have to use this mod

And that’s the day I open Davinci

And the next time I open Davinci is when a small population of orphans are going go missing

[delicate jungle]

i try to stay away from ai generated stuff - feels too good for LC xd

[sudden canopy]

AI generated shit is ugly

[delicate jungle]

isnt Davinci an AI art generator?

or am i mixing it up with something else?

[sudden canopy]

Davinci Resolve is a video editing software

That I moronically use for image editing as well

[delicate jungle]

oh you meant that

yeah

im using sony vegas

[sudden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/eww-meme-eww-gif-eww-brother-eww-eww-brother-gif-4303100356772739930

[serene kelp]

Thanks for the report, is this normal backround, mp4 audio track or loaforcs?

[honest grotto]

Loa

[honest grotto]

I will test the regular one in a sec

[serene kelp]

Does the issue persist with emblem disabled?

[serene kelp]

Just teseted, regular works fine

[honest grotto]

haha opps got distracted sry

[serene kelp]

I got to test it, ya it's a soundapi bug, still happens when emblem is disabled

Rolling soundapi back to 1.0.5 will solve the issue

[honest grotto]

So loaforc good to know ty!

[serene kelp]

Ohhh boy getting closer

[serene kelp]

CRT monitor effect, this is probably where I leave it for now, sadly doesn't work with more company, gotta figure that out before release

works on all menus tho!

[median lark]

Hello ! i replaced the header for the starting screen but can't find how to replace/remove the one from the loading screen, there is a way to do that ?

thanks for the mod, having fun adding random quotes for the loading screen fro my friends 😂

[serene kelp]

Further down in the config file

[median lark]

Ok nice ! Had to set it to true, delete the file path and set transparency to be sure ! Thank you 😄

[serene kelp]

perfect! glad it is working well for ya, lemme know of any additional bugs or ideas

[honest grotto]

@serene kelpNew Loaforc update fixes menu music and sounds.

[pallid river]

Loaf pulled a rewind time on soundapi

[serene kelp]

Retro TV effect finished but im fighting with MoreCompany for a compatibility workaround. They've cloned the default camera and canvas, kinda silly but we will get there

[serene kelp]

Okay lol maybe that's a little too extreme, fun, but not practical

[pallid river]

Make it adjustable

[serene kelp]

success!

[serene kelp]

There's a LOT of settings involved, for now it'll just be TV effect on or off as it's an experimental feature anyway

[serene kelp]

confirmed working with mp4's now too

[serene kelp]

Uploaded, the TV feature was something I wanted to do pretty much since the first release
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/

[delicate jungle]

Is ig still backward comsptible?

Im too drunk to fix it now lmao

[serene kelp]

You bet, just a new feature, there shouldn't be any changes to how paths work going forward until possibly a theme switcher thing is conceived

[delicate jungle]

Man thats a lifesaver

[serene kelp]

Custom Shaders anyone?

[delicate jungle]

YESS

[serene kelp]

Closer, this is tricky af

Okay, got it subtle enough that I'm happy adding it to the Retro TV effect, but i might make it a separate option under experimental

[serene kelp]

Going to try writing a floating dust shader next

[serene kelp]

fun times

[delicate jungle]

im havin fun too..

[tough panther]

=3 Made a title screen with this mod.

[serene kelp]

That looks great! Did you try the "Radiant Taper" feature?

[tough panther]

I haven’t. Just some basic photoshop work (the actual zeraora image isn’t mine, thought I should make that clear lol)

[serene kelp]

Ooof dust shaders are hard

[serene kelp]

Ugh doing dust particles this way is just gonna murder fps lol, at least trying to get anything decent. the math is way too complicated. Was a fun experiment. Unity has other more efficient ways to do particles

[velvet ledge]

could render that as a looped mp4 and have it layered on top 🤔

[serene kelp]

it's the alpha transparency stuff that's killing it I think, and mp4's can't be transparent

might try out a shooting stars shader, could be cool

[serene kelp]

Ya.. dropping the extra shader stuff, will put the scanlines into the next release though as thats pretty simple.

Gonna have a run at the random loading images thing

[grand dove]

have you tried checking how they do things in wallpaper engine

[grand dove]

you don't make an mp4 transparent, you make the player/container transparent

other than transparency, you could also try to mess around with blend modes

another technique could also be

1. you make the "transparent" video have greenscreen
2. emblem turns specified rgb value for greenscreen to alpha, but that might be expensive

[serene kelp]

Oh these are great ideas!

[serene kelp]

So I'm still trying to think this through, right now figure it could be referred to as a "Slideshow" feature.
There's 4 different image prefix's that could be effected, simplest would be to do images first, then videos later

The config should be very simple something like this:

• Enable Slideshow Boolean:(True/False)
• Apply to which sections? String:(Header, Loading, Background, LoadingBG )
• Delay timer Float:(0.5-30sec)

[honest grotto]

I like this

[serene kelp]

Cool!

[serene kelp]

I've got it working finally, needs some tweaking, just calls the same methods that do the initial setup multiple times on a loop, if images are setup to be randomly chosen, then when it runs again, another image will be randomly chosen

What it needs is a check to make sure it isn't about to pick the same image again. Also a slight transition of some kind.

[serene kelp]

goddamnit, the new section #10 in config is going between section 1 and 2. If I update the other sections to be 01, 02, 03 that resets everyones configs again

gotta find another plan

There must be a way to migrate users settings over

I'll save that for another update, when I attempt to get the slideshow working for mp4's

[grand dove]

for the transition, try fading out the current image over the next image

so in filmora, apparently this is called dissolve

if you go with this transition style, it would be recommended to allow users to set the transition speed

[serene kelp]

I like this ya, will need to see what is available in unity though, if theres lots of options perhaps users could choose too

Ya its more complicated than I thought lol. Probably will replicate the transition @grand dove just mentioned.

It also involves having both images existing on top of each other, then animating the opacity reduction over time

[serene kelp]

The transition iteself is kindof another feature so that will likely be in a further update

Here's the progress from tonight anyway

[serene kelp]

Slideshow & Scanlines update:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/

Transitions will be in next update. Also forcing a different image if random picks the same ones twice in a row
You guys giver a spin and let me know

[serene kelp]

Mp4's do work however, if you are making custom vids, then you shouldn't need a slideshow at all

[worn fulcrum]

The default config for custom image location is Darkbrewery-Emblem/Defaults/... you miss one folder, Darkbrewery-Emblem/Emblem/Defaults/...

[serene kelp]

It should work

[worn fulcrum]

Oh really? Its not worked on me before. There is no custom background, only black background, custom logo disappeared

Ill try again later

[serene kelp]

Yeah, it searches for all instances of /Emblem/ so the config only needs to say Defaults/whatever

[pallid river]

Do you think it'd be possible to also change the text/color of the bootup screen?

[serene kelp]

Its a different scene entirely but if I manage to wrangle this slideshow, there is a possibility yes

[serene kelp]

Holy crap this slideshow is kicking my ass, its just making my brain melt, this is day 3 but a few walks in the woods contemplating, we are much closer

[serene kelp]

Got it, transitions work, now to work backward to consolidate things

[serene kelp]

That's better

[serene kelp]

Ya got the backgrounds working perfect. Testing header images I realized how janky loading images are setup, will need some more work on that before release

[timber mural]

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[timber mural]

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[serene kelp]

Which ones are missing? I think i may tie into this next

[timber mural]

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[serene kelp]

Ohhhhh submenus eh, ya I know a few people who hate that orange, might take a few days but ill dig into it!

[timber mural]

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[serene kelp]

Mid-transition, got headers working finally, fixed random image selection

This is with all the features enabled too

[serene kelp]

Partial potential fix for AC might come with this I dunno, instead of replacing the default logo, we look for it and add a new object if its missing

I don't have an AC copy to test so lemme know after release

[keen oar]

I have a copy

[keen oar]

Check your dm’s

[frank harbor]

can i have a copy please

[serene kelp]

Postponing ac compat, its not high priority and needs additional logic

[frank harbor]

@sharp cosmos can you edit/crop the background from your modpack, right now its not fully showing the name

and i want to give full credit to you :P

[serene kelp]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/
Transitions Update @honest grotto

Changed a lot of backend stuff, hopefully didn't miss anything

[serene kelp]

So yeah I tested it, everything works except the header images, cannot write compat for that since potato has obfuscated the object id's with random hashes. Just stick with using the AC way of replacing headers.
Looks like with the logo wars other things have been added like ensuring overlays don't work either.

Theres some other very aggresive stuff going on too like some kindof coroutine that won;t let you cover the logo up with a background, whatever it is it's killing frames

[gusty crag]

is this your time to learn transpilers to remove it

[serene kelp]

lol not worth the time, could be doing other fun stuff

when I get this all up on github I'll set the license to OpenSource with no attribution. Someone else can write pulls or just fork at their leisure.

One feature I really want to get working is animating the loading text, with the in game keyboard sound

[serene kelp]

Another fun idea: have the logo twitch a little bit randomly, stretch/shift/discolor for a split second in random directions at a random interval

[serene kelp]

Just got the tv effects working on the initscene and launch options, too easy that one

[sharp cosmos]

It's not on the .png it's a separate file.
Also modpack is depreciated until I get things compatible to v50

[frank harbor]

What? I'm using it as my PCs wall paper and was asking if you could edit the og image alittle

[sharp cosmos]

Oh. You could just crop it with the photo editor built into windows

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Enratic/Siris_Artistic_Backgrounds/

Also this is the updated version

Or you want the logo?

[frank harbor]

Man I'm a God damn idiot, been using my PC for years and that's not even the first thing that comes to mind

Nvm I'm just dumb

[sharp cosmos]

[worn fulcrum]

is it okay if I use it on stream?

[sharp cosmos]

Idc

Credit the origonal author tho plz. This was uploaded & edited with his permission.

https://siricanis.carrd.co/

[serene kelp]

Just got the loading screen text to be animated typed out

[delicate jungle]

aint no way

show me :3

[serene kelp]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Darkbrewery/Emblem/

You will need to have multiple strings separated by | like before, then enable the slideshow feature for loading text

[delicate jungle]

wait so the texts change mid loading?

does it even have time for it to do that?

[serene kelp]

If you got a buttload of mods yeah it could take a while

[delicate jungle]

🤔

i'll look into this tomorrow

[serene kelp]

So test on a modpack

[delicate jungle]

gotta head to sleep now

[serene kelp]

Or use this to see the loading screen without actually having to load into the game
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Noop/UnityExplorer/

[serene kelp]

This is mid-typing

[delicate jungle]

You didnt add an audio to it right?

[delicate jungle]

Still omw to sleep btw

[serene kelp]

No audio, it happens behing the mainmenu so it'd be weird having sounds going an not being able to see it

[delicate jungle]

Yeah i was thinking like the ingame sound when you write something in the terminal that could be how it writes out - basically a typewriter way

[delicate jungle]

But yeah that way i understand it

[worn fulcrum]

I used custom logo, but the default comeback in loading screen

and the retro tv style is kind of messing up the menu (ik its experimental, just sayin), idk if this a known issue

[serene kelp]

Interesting, can u share your config

and a screen of the retro tv in the menus

[worn fulcrum]

okay wait

[worn fulcrum]

this is my config

[serene kelp]

Try this, you didn't have the Loading Image override enabled, and I cleaned up some old entries that were unused

[worn fulcrum]

its not big of a deal tho

[worn fulcrum]

oh, I thought the loading image is for something else

[serene kelp]

Ahhh, ya, ill try to figure that out eventually

[worn fulcrum]

cool

[delicate jungle]

alrighty so couple of things - tried the new patch and experimented with the loadtext typewriter and the slideshow:

• On booting up it needs a second to start the mp4
• the typing effect only works if the slideshow for loadtext is applied
• the typing effect I used only one loadtext is "Locating specimens..." and it seperated it in two "Locating specimen" "s..."
• idk if it was a vanilla bug or what but when i was in the settings ingame you can see me try to confirm it and it just doesnt let me lmao the button just wont work for a couple seconds and then it magically works. Had this before with the quitting button too

oh yeah after leaving the game and starting it back up the typing effect doesnt work

[serene kelp]

Try testing on a bigger modpack so the loadtimes are longer. Also a longer slideshow time of 5sec+ would be recommended. Loadtext in slideshow requirement is by design.

Ill need to look at your cfg for the weird load text parsing.

Still haven't touched anything in game.

[serene kelp]

There's only one text in there, you need to have multiple for the loading text slideshow to work properly

I'll test the "..." part later to see if it's being parsed funny

[serene kelp]

Another thought is to add console error messages to help users with setting things up

Eventually i'd like to upgrade the whole plugin to work with lethal config so restart isn't required to update settings

[solar tendon]

Sorry

[delicate jungle]

Yeah but the typing effect only works if slideshow is active

Also the typeeffect bugs out when you leave the match and start one again

[serene kelp]

Ya, thats how its supposed to go, I could look into doing it with a single text and no slideshow but that requires listening for the loadscreen to become active before running. Currently it just runs constantly hidden behind main menu.

[serene kelp]

I will look into this!

[delicate jungle]

It could bypass it for a single text with just writing the same thing again imo lmao

[serene kelp]

Definitely, I may have a fix already done actually, did some optimization after the release.

Oh wait it probably won't work because the randomizer checks to make sure the same string isn't used twice in a row. Ill add some logic to handle the case where only one string has been provided. Although that won't look very good if users have long load times and it types the same thing multiple times

[serene kelp]

@delicate jungle see if this helps

[delicate jungle]

v1.2.8? Noice i’ll check it tomorrow

[serene kelp]

Ya I somehow missed that the timers were running right into the main game which was throwing console errors when slideshow was enabled

https://thunderstore.io/package/download/Darkbrewery/Emblem/1.2.8/

[serene kelp]

Found the part that prevented typing from happening on second load

it'll be in 1.2.9 whenever that happens

[serene kelp]

Looking into a config file watcher so lethalconfig updates in real time, might be great for v 1.3.0

[serene kelp]

I think I can get this to work by updating the actual .cfg file or using lethal config/settings and be able to see the updates in real time.
This is what we want ideally because forcing a dependancy on lethalconfig is not the best approach

Damn, this plugin is getting to like 2k lines of code, really need to get it to a finished state so I can move on with my life :/

[delicate jungle]

I still wanna be a pain in the butt and ask if you could set the colours for settings / join a crew stuff so the colours look like one theme

[worn fulcrum]

haha, don't take this like a job man. It's not like your mod has so many bugs that you need to update it constantly, at least that's how I feel about this mod. take a breath, update it once a week. the updates only bring new stuff and some adjustments, so no need to rush

your mod is amazing

[serene kelp]

We might get there, sadly the default orange is built in to a material so could prove difficult

[delicate jungle]

Hopefully it can be done. I know im asking for a difficult thing but itd be wonderful to have it

[delicate jungle]

Also this is correct! You can take your time, dont need to hurry with the updates.

[serene kelp]

Would like to get to a place where we can start touching the in-game UI stuff

[delicate jungle]

Thats it I actually fell in love with u

[serene kelp]

Im really excited to get the settings to auto update. Think that's going to be really big.

It also starts paving the road to an actual theme switcher

[serene kelp]

Holy crap, got a setting to actually change live by editing something in the .cfg file on one screen and watching it update on the other screen

It means a whole lotta refactoring code for the entire plugin but it's worth it and will teach some discipline too

[sudden canopy]

Ok

its finally time

https://tenor.com/view/aroojtwt-gif-25910252

I must cook.

Teach me everything

[serene kelp]

Whatchu cooking?

[sudden canopy]

The worst possible thing

I booted up davinci

First thing I need to ask

Background mp4’s

What should their dimensions be

How long can they be

How long should they be is a better question

[pallid river]

If you want to support widescreen, make it really wide and then enable the "fit vertical" option in configs

[sudden canopy]

Ok, widescreen losers aside

What should I make the resolution

[pallid river]

Do you want a 5 MB file or a 500 MB file?

[sudden canopy]

I don’t feel like I have a choice

My video is not gonna be anywhere near 5mb

[pallid river]

How long are you making it...

[sudden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-ripbozo-packwatch-gif-25158306

Woah man

One question at a time

[pallid river]

Also, skill issue?

[sudden canopy]

Resolution

[pallid river]

1080p

[sudden canopy]

Is there any size limit

Or more accurately, when does it become too large for emblem / pcs to handle

[pallid river]

how long it takes to download and load

your pack loads for so long you can probably have it be a few hundred mb

[sudden canopy]

Imma render an 8k video fuck it

[acoustic berry]

bruh

[sudden canopy]

I mean

Hey mrov

How’s it going

[acoustic berry]

let's call it good

it's not bad bad at least

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-at-my-limit-rainbow-dance-man-htrohc-gif-21722664

[sudden canopy]

Let’s go

[sudden canopy]

Well after literally my prototype rendered (I did it wrong and made a mistake) I uploaded it to emblem is the quality of it went to absolute dogshit

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/27Q4faPWT5u1ZP

Also I love how red is not red but instead the blood of Christ red

[acoustic berry]

how did you do the CRT effect

i mean the not-flat display

[sudden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-gif-11339234860235694668

[acoustic berry]

it's fucking perfect

[sudden canopy]

Incorrectly that’s how

[pallid river]

mick used a premade option, as per usual

[sudden canopy]

Not according to j-

There he is

Professional hater

[acoustic berry]

😆

[sudden canopy]

Ignore him he’s mad because I’m cute with it

[acoustic berry]

is that a mod or just mainmenu effect 😭

[sudden canopy]

The crt effect in the red background I did

[pallid river]

LC changes the colours a lot, you need to lower gamma and saturation to bring it back into line

[sudden canopy]

But emblem also allows a crt effect

Overlayed on whatever video you have

[acoustic berry]

i'm asking because - on the video - the LethalConfig GUI is also bent

which is 👌

[pallid river]

Its an option in emblem yeah, bends the entire menu scene

[sudden canopy]

Yes that is Emblem

[acoustic berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1086207290870345730.gif?size=48&name=destroyed&quality=lossless

[sudden canopy]

What I need to do

[acoustic berry]

i want that in the game itself 😭 😭 😭 😭

[sudden canopy]

Is A. Fix and properly animate the skull

B. Get the colors right

C. Find a balance between resolution and file size