[v81] Half Life Black Mesa Moon + Interior

[uneven stream]

Might do it way later on

Probably not well lmao

[north thorn]

Batby would probably have some idea of the things that could go wrong since he's considering it

as far as CullFactory, I can probably just do a search for all Dungeon components in the scene after generation finishes

[uneven stream]

I feel like a lot of what I've been doing for this mod is stuff that wasn't intended at all lmao

[north thorn]

although I probably should actually hook into the DunGen event...

[uneven stream]

Might be tricky tho too, cause with Cull factory it works with hiding things where the portals can't be seen

[north thorn]

what might?

the two dungeons in general?

[uneven stream]

A space area with open expanse where you can see the other floating rocks so you'd see all portals at the same time

[north thorn]

as long as you use teleporters between them like the entrance doors in vanilla, it shouldn't be a problem

oh

well, someone else already did that with the Space Station moon/interior, and yeah, it breaks a lot of assumptions in CullFactory

[uneven stream]

Might need to add caves or something instead of just floating platforms in space

[north thorn]

if someone is outside the interior but the interior is intended to be visible there, I have to make the whole thing visible

but honestly? I think that it should probably spawn the exterior view of the interior separately from the actual interior

[uneven stream]

Also I had an idea today about how I can make my loot spawns more controlled and less sparse sometimes

[north thorn]

because all that inside geometry doesn't need to be rendered

[uneven stream]

Yeah very trueee

[sacred quiver]

Could you just add the area to a section of the map? Do you need generation for it?

[north thorn]

if it's all part of the interior and it generates at ground level, framerates will suffer a lot

[uneven stream]

I could have it generate with black mesa but it wouldn't make as much sense lore wise

[sacred quiver]

You talking the zen tiles?

[uneven stream]

Ye

I was getting wild and thinking about teleporting a player to an entirely different generation of strictly Xen stuff

[sacred quiver]

Ask Batby if this feature is coming, that would just solve your problem

[uneven stream]

gonna be in VC for a bit working on stuffs

[sacred quiver]

I might be on later

[north thorn]

@sacred quiver do you not have any released mods? we gotta get you the modder role lmao

even contributions to other mods should count, there's plenty of mods with teams

[sacred quiver]

I technically made the dll for Teraspace https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/TeraSpace/

Does that count? lol

[north thorn]

I would say so personally

not sure if it's good form to @ moderator, I did that before and I felt bad lol

[sacred quiver]

I know I was thinking the same thing🫣

[uneven stream]

I just @'d one of them haha

[tranquil oak]

Having issues with this map/interior hanging during seeding when multiple players are in the lobby

[uneven stream]

try starting with a new save file

I did it with 12 players the other night and it was fine, but I think the generation gets hung up sometimes

starting with a fresh save seemed to help it, but I think it is due to scrap spawns getting confused

[tranquil oak]

ah right, thanks for the info. Will try it out later 🙂

[uneven stream]

Just pushed a new build
0.8.7

• Added HEV charging stations to randomly generate in the dungeons (3 stations per generation) and they will allow you to charge 1 device to full battery each
• more collision in the air ducts (players were falling through)
• removed 1 singular tile that was causing DunGen to freak out making the Random Seed screen to stick around forever

[sacred quiver]

Was it the tile that was failing to generate?

[uneven stream]

it was one of the Straight Quarantine pieces

I suspect there was weird geometry that Unity didn't like so it was killed, but Dungeon didn't know about it so it would keep trying to reference the tile that wasn't there

[sacred quiver]

Well I'm glad you found it, hopefully getting stuck on the seed is a thing of the past

[uneven stream]

*until more tiles are added later

lmao

[brazen forge]

hmmmmge, Ive been lurking around for this one, is there anything game breaking in the latest version? like no mines, no turrets, no monsters inside and etc? 👀

[uneven stream]

I disabled Mines and Turrets as something is wrong with the prefabs I have, but there are monsters and everything else

very playable in the current state 🙂

[brazen forge]

sounds good!

cant wait to try it out then

[uneven stream]

Hope you have fun!

It is a lot of fun with more friends too so everyone can go off and explore different directions since it is so big lol

[brazen forge]

stuck on seed screen, when trying to simulate the black mesa moon, it just says there is no interior assigned, I dont see any configs generated either so I'm assuming the interior itself is just simply not added somehow
@uneven stream any clue?

[uneven stream]

huh weird

let me try on my end again

[uneven stream]

try starting a new save

It has ben an issue when pulling the lever to land on the moon on a existing save for some reason

@sacred quiver reported it before, but making a new save seems to fix it

I will look into it as it is really annoying lol

[brazen forge]

hmm alright

[sacred quiver]

Must be something that's getting the generation stuck, looks like it wasn't only that tile causing the issue😅

[brazen forge]

well I mean, the interior itself doesnt seem to get added so no wonder its stuck on generation

[sacred quiver]

There's no LLL configs yet

[brazen forge]

oh

thats unfortunate

[uneven stream]

WIP security cameras for main lobby

gonna add a few of these around the main area and some doors to shut off access temporarily to them

[uneven stream]

nah it seems like it was still that tile

I dereferenced the tile from the tileset, yet during testing just now I got the same "Tile" was destroyed but is being referenced error

and there is a tile missing from the Quarantine section that fits that exact size

so it is almost like it is still being referenced which is weird

I am gonna try to nail down this error as it is really annoying lmao

but seems to happen entirely due to something in the Quarantine tileset

might disable all of Quarantine until I get it nailed down

[north thorn]

if you want to you could toss a broken version and seed my way and I can try to debug it

[uneven stream]

kk next time I get a broken seed I will send it that way!

[sacred quiver]

How odd that it's still showing up

[uneven stream]

Update on the security feeds

the top two are the fire escape ones for now

Those two at the top don't generate with the Fire Escapes tho so I had to place them manually just as a proof of concept

[mossy summit]

it doesnt load for me and errors out this:

Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001E)
WeatherTweaks.Variables.GetPlanetCurrentWeatherType (SelectableLevel level) (at <41ab4f56b8904cdcb0f6d1931c7cabc9>:IL_0001)
WeatherTweaks.Patches.MeteoMultiplierPatches.GenerateNewLevelClientRpcPatch () (at <41ab4f56b8904cdcb0f6d1931c7cabc9>:IL_0024)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager,int,int)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0076)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[20:44:54.6134364] [Error  : Unity Log] KeyNotFoundException: The given key 'Black MesaLevel (SelectableLevel)' was not present in the dictionary.
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001E)
WeatherTweaks.Variables.GetPlanetCurrentWeatherType (SelectableLevel level) (at <41ab4f56b8904cdcb0f6d1931c7cabc9>:IL_0001)
WeatherTweaks.Patches.MeteoMultiplierPatches.GenerateNewLevelClientRpcPatch () (at <41ab4f56b8904cdcb0f6d1931c7cabc9>:IL_0024)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager,int,int)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0076)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)```

[uneven stream]

What dictionary would that be? I never saw that before lol

These are the mods it should work fine with
and only on version 49

[mossy summit]

yea its v49

it might be weather tweaks ill report it there

[uneven stream]

Ah okay! That very well could be it

[sacred quiver]

I use weather tweaks and not had any issues besides the stuck on seed problem

Which isn't caused by weather tweaks

[earnest marsh]

I was wondering, when I have multiple interior mods, black mesa dosen't seem to generate or the chance is really low, when I disable all the other interior mods it does generate, is the black mesa not guaranteed on its own moon or is it some sort of mod conflict?

[uneven stream]

Likely a mod conflict with how I have it setup in the alpha build

It really should be the only interior on the black mesa moon

[earnest marsh]

Yeah these are the only modded interiors I have, haven't gone through 1 by 1 but when disabling them your interior worked, so far SCP and Mental Hospital spawned on your moon, kind of seems like it ignores the black mesa interior

[uneven stream]

Probably due to the way I have it setup which is not ideal and I plan on fixing for full release 😅

[edgy fable]

hella excited cant wait to see what you do with this!

[honest ginkgo]

this has no config for spawn rates yet? 😢

[uneven stream]

It has no configs at all yet since it's so early

[lost moss]

I dont know if just me, Upon testing around 2-4 times there's no much loot inside the interior?

[celest pulsar]

Is the loot just really spread out or is the interior potentially generating less than it should? (Check with scan and see if it ends up somewhere in the intended amount for the moon)

Cause some interiors in the past when they were new (e.g. Office was one of them) had issues where amount of loot would generate less than the intended amount

Like you'd see criminal amounts like 4 - 5 scrap experimentation

[honest ginkgo]

Okay, that makes sense. I'll wait patiently! 🙂

[uneven stream]

I have it where it is supposed to generate 60 - 70 pieces of scrap since I wanted it to be a place that is very dangerous but also full of loot so definitely not generating as intended yet :/

[uneven stream]

Where the room doesn't render in editor, but does in-game

[hollow fiber]

Only thing I can think of is how the room is categorized

[uneven stream]

It is all just Room Layer

[north thorn]

wait, so where you're looking should be the lobby tile? it's hard to tell there

(also, it would be good if you could record as video instead of gif since that resolution causes my phone to slow to a crawl 😅)

[uneven stream]

deleted the GIF haha didn't know that

But yeah the lobby is straight up gone in the Scene view lol

but in game it is there

[north thorn]

if CullFactory was working that might explain it, since I made it so that the scene view doesn't affect culling

if you look at the scene view without making sure that the next room is in the player camera, it'll be invisible

other than that though, not sure

I would be curious if anything there was selectable

[sacred quiver]

its not, he was having this same issue last night

[uneven stream]

Yeah it wasn't cullfactory at all which is weird

[sacred quiver]

The door still in the room?

[north thorn]

huh, if i's not CullFactory I'm not sure what it would be

very weird

it's definitely not normal for things to disappear on one camera but not the others unless you have CullFactory

[uneven stream]

nah I removed the door lol

I will be in vc for a bit

trying to figure out these damn other doors lol

[uneven stream]

Might need to inquire for some helping show me how to make a dll for referencing custom scripts so I can expand into that realm for the interior and exterior. For some reason I am just not getting it lol

[uneven stream]

Hey @spring basin I have @sacred quiver who made my dll for my mod. Is he able to get the modder role too? He also works on Tolian's dlls and stuff 🙂

Figured I would ask 😅

Would be so much easier to chat about modding stuff in the modding vc without random people joining and being interupted and playing sound boards

[uneven stream]

@upbeat haven black mesa will soon work with config files so it should play nice with mod packs 🙂

[upbeat haven]

neat

ill enjoy crying

but its gonna be beautiful

[sacred quiver]

You're welcome 😘

[spring basin]

I'll have to ask someone more knowledgeable cause idk what exactly the rules are on that, I imagine yes

[spring basin]

?modder 257364122776240139

[daring vigil]

Added role Modder to purefpszac

Yay! @sacred quiver you've been assigned the modder role. Head to #role-picker to select which type of modding you're interested and active in.

[sacred quiver]

Thank you very much ❤️

[fleet night]

question is there anyway to disable the moon so i can just get the interior

no offense to crab, i've seen the effort and love they've put into it, but im just not a fan of moons based on other things (ex: this, the scp moon, family guy) (except bozoros cause clowns)

[uneven stream]

yeah there will be ways to add the interior to other moons 🙂

thanks to Pure

and no offense taken 🙂

[fleet night]

does that mean that i can get the interior without the moon or-

also good, didnt wanna offend you or anything lol

[uneven stream]

oh like I mean the mod will all be in one, but it will be very possible to add the interior to any moon with weights of your choosing via config 🙂

[fleet night]

ah. hmm...

if it isnt too much to ask, would it be possible to add a config that removes the moon in the case someone would just wanna have the interior? its fine if thats not something you'd wanna do im just wondering

[uneven stream]

It would moreso be something I am not sure how to do since I am still learning, but if it is possible to do it via config and someone showed me how then I would 100% not be opposed

[fierce depot]

i think you can hide the moon in LLL

[fleet night]

ahhhh i see

[fleet night]

i figured i would but i dunno where the option for that is

i know ive used it before but cant find it again

[uneven stream]

.

[old fiber]

nice

[sacred quiver]

In the LLL config enable this

[fleet night]

yeah i found it on my own but thanks

[uneven stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMdEm_weI4A

Security Room test

updated security cams that work properly now for the main entrance so you can watch for monsters coming down the halls

but it doesn't cover the room directly behind you so you still have to watch your back as monsters can sneak up on you from there

also added a custom terminal that is WIP

[tribal jetty]

how is the terminal gonna work

[uneven stream]

bascially be a secondary ship terminal hopefully

[north thorn]

it doesn't use a separate Terminal component does it?

[uneven stream]

but the monitor stand area will have buttons to open and close certain doors in the main area to lock out monsters (or your friends)

Nah it uses the same one as the ship I believe, but I had to unparent it from the ship

[north thorn]

right, but a clone of that one?

[uneven stream]

Yeah basically

[north thorn]

uh oh

[uneven stream]

still uses the vanilla camera lol

[north thorn]

you're really tryna break everything in the game huh

[uneven stream]

so that doesn't work away from the ship

I really am haha

I am hell bent on destruction

[north thorn]

Terminal is pretty integral to the initial load of the game so I'd be very wary of it

also, there being multiple Terminal components in the world will undoubtedly break assumptions from a lot of mods

[uneven stream]

interesting

if it causes too much trouble I will remove it

[north thorn]

usually mods should cache the one instance at the start of the game, but even then, it will break assumptions

[uneven stream]

wanted it to be a more powerful terminal user room but with more risk

I removed the parenting of the ship from it, so so far the only big thing that was broken so far is the vanilla camera

[north thorn]

yeah, definitely a cool idea

[uneven stream]

but if it isn't possible then oh well haha

the security feeds alone are pretty fun 😄

[north thorn]

well.. lemme try and think of an example other than the obvious FindObjectOfType<Terminal>() calls having undefined behavior

[uneven stream]

Ideally I wanted just a simple screen to transmit messages to players from and look stuff up etc

tried to have it default to being only able to transmit messages, but didn't get it sorted with any vanilla scripts so figured I might see about just making it a 2nd ship terminal

didn't think about how it would break things though hahaha

[north thorn]

one easy way to see how things could break in vanilla is to look at a decompilation of the Terminal class and see how many static fields/methods are accessed in its functions

for example, in Terminal.Update(), it changes the target texture resolution for the main camera when a player enters the terminal, and duplicating it means that one terminal will always overwrite that change

so you'll have to do a little transpiler patch there

[uneven stream]

I wonder if I can make a completely custom terminal

and only give it access to some stuff that the vanilla terminal does

[north thorn]

perhaps, but you'd have to duplicate a lot of code from vanilla and so you wouldn't get the benefit of terminal mods

if you wanted it to be like a cut-down version of the ship terminal, that's an option, certainly

[uneven stream]

I might want it to be a bare bones internal terminal for some simple stuff

might not want some stuff due to balance I think but I am not sure haha

[north thorn]

(be wary of copy pasting the code directly from vanilla code instead of writing your own, licensing is dangerous...)

[uneven stream]

another thing I didn't think about

This is why you are great Zaggy

[north thorn]

one issue with trying to cut it down is that the vanilla terminal works by a "node" list that defines how it behaves for each command

[uneven stream]

oh interesting

[north thorn]

so you would presumably need to duplicate that at some stage, remove the nodes you don't want, and then walk it yourself

[uneven stream]

I will see what I can come up with and then see how terrible it is in practice (if I ever get it working)

[north thorn]

oh yeah also, the ship's money is stored in the Terminal, I forgot about that

so by duplicating it, you'll be duplicating the save's credits so they can spend all of it without it affecting the ship

time to get rich

[uneven stream]

oh lord

yeah that is mega broken then lmao

😅

Black Mesa credit card

[old fiber]

Hopefully Rosie’s method give the fps boost

[thin sedge]

why are the moon and interior in the same mod? that's stupid

[uneven stream]

Cause that's how I'm doing it and doing want to maintain two different mods

You can just disable the moon and use a config that's coming soon

It's not that hard

[uneven stream]

This

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/bullpups-be-like-bullpups-gun-cursed-cry-about-it-gif-27462253

[uneven stream]

I hope so! I have some other methods too, but saving them for once I'm done with the tiles since I want to do more

[thin sedge]

maintaining them seperately is easy, just export their files seperately. would also save on space

[thin stratus]

they find it easier with their workflow to have them in the same mod

you have the ability to change that if you dont like it

[uneven stream]

I've put over 200 hours into this and I'm doing it this way, you have the power to put in less than a minute to change it yourself 🤷‍♂️

And in terms of space saving the exterior is like 50 Mb so like it's really not that bad. It's all the assets for the tiles of the interior that makes it over 400 Mb

[winged wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/foxy-run-fnaf-five-nights-at-freddys-gameplay-gif-17220910

[uneven stream]

New update is out
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Plastered_Crab/Black_Mesa_Half_Life_Moon_Interior/

[brazen forge]

LETS GOOOO

[uneven stream]

Changes

• added dll and config now so you can now simulate the interior chances on the moon by typing "simulate blackmesa" in the terminal as well as use this interior on other moons and vice versa
• Added doors for the single doorway sockets
• replaced single door blockers with similar doors but with red emissives to help identify blocked paths in the dark
• added WIP Security room with surveilance cameras to allow players to keep an eye on the main entrance of the facility (lots planned for this room)
• added WIP custom terminal which I will do some testing with but not sure if I will keep
• added secret jump area on exterior moon (Have fun jumping to and from it!)
• added custom scripts for toxic pool to damage over time and warn players of radiation when entering the area

Also pushed a hot fix version to prevent the seed generation bug from happening

Have fun! Record playthroughs too if possible so I can get an idea on how it is going for people so far. Hard to test it game by game with only a couple people's perspectives at a time haha

[tacit vapor]

"use this interior on other moons and vice versa"

BIG!

[uneven stream]

Thanks to @sacred quiver for getting the config stuff setup in the dll for that part 🙂

And here are some random screenshots of both the exterior and interior

[tacit vapor]

this update just broke my game

cant even load in to the ship, its just black and log spams errors

[keen root]

me 2

When I start the game it gets stuck when you have to choose "online" or "lan". Although I managed to fix that by updating the dependencies (CullFactory and EvasiaLetalLib) Now I can start the game, enter the ship and even travel and land on the map , but two problems occur, one is minor because for some reason the HDCompany is "deactivated" and the second is that I cannot collect scrap of any kind and when I try to do so the console spits out an error

[tribal jetty]

how wip is this

like are there still creatures and loot spawns

cuz it seems sick but if its really early stage id rather wait for it to be fully out abd working

[charred cedar]

@uneven stream your latest update is causing peoples games to freeze

booting up a save just looks like this, others are having the issue but I havent confirmed whether they had this mod or not, either way removing it allows my game to load.

[uneven stream]

That's weird 🤔 what other mods are enabled?

[charred cedar]

a good amount im going to see if the mod causes the issue on its own

[uneven stream]

Some mods I know cause you to spawn in the wall, like More Company does that sometimes

But yeah let me know! 😄

[charred cedar]

didnt happen on its own, must be a conflict with a popular mod seeing that 3 other people hav posted the same issue

[uneven stream]

Yeah there are creatures and loot spawns 🙂

Yeah I know More company does it I think, but after reloading it goes to the ship again cause I have played this with the mod that does it with groups of 12 before 😅

Usually just reloading fixes it 🙂

[uneven stream]

What does your mod list look like?

[uneven stream]

What are the errors and what mods do you have? This should be just like any other interior and custom moon mod in terms of conflicts 🤔

[tacit vapor]

I have 200 mods

The ones that got mentioned in the error was insanity remastered and Lategameupgrades

[north thorn]

chances are if people are getting stuck in the wall 100% of the time, there's probably an error in the log preventing them from spawning correctly

[tacit vapor]

I had to close LC from the console, i couldnt do anything ingame

[uneven stream]

I played with late game upgrades one before and this mod

[uneven stream]

Do we just need a log dump to see what actually caused it? 🤔

I spawned in the wall before with other interiors and other mods and then I just restarted my game and it worked fine with those

Probably some odd conflicts doing that I imagine

[tacit vapor]

here is some errors
https://pastebin.com/S9YghbSc

let me know if you want entire log instead

[keen root]

I have a lot, several custom Tolian moons, several more interiors, more company, lategame Upgrades and some models. The point is that with version 0.8.8 I have had no problems with the modpack that I am using and in fact the only fix I have found has been to put that same version back. I also tried using several versions, but nothing worked. I seem to remember that when I had the error on the console I saw an error related to the internet, it occurs to me that perhaps it has to do with a mod that synchronizes the host's cfg files with the rest of the players

[uneven stream]

Can you send me your mod pack?

I can test it later 🙂

But I do know more company can cause it as I've had that exact error in the past, so I'll try to nail that down today 🙂

And makes sense since this version now adds the config dll stuff

@sacred quiver and I will have to look into it today to see if that is happening related to that

[queen bay]

same issue here
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[north thorn]

that's my thought, if it's intermittent though it could be the MoreCompany issue or something

[uneven stream]

Just tried with LateProgression and MoreCompany together and other mods and it worked fine for me

I've had this issue with MoreCompany in the past tho

Very rarely I would spawn in the wall

But restarting would usually fix it

[queen bay]

i dont use MoreCompany, but got the same issue

[uneven stream]

Yeah that's super weird, thanks for the log! Hopefully we can nail down the issue 🙂

[uneven stream]

Do you have lethal progression by any chance?

[queen bay]

no

[old fiber]

It would be cool if you could get in contact with the SDM creator and make something like the painting they did for their interior. Basically was a custom apperatus. That would be sick on this moon

[old fiber]

What’s wrong with lethal progression

[uneven stream]

We think there might be conflicts with it or something related to it

Gonna be doing testing today

[uneven stream]

Do you have LLLFixed?

Or regular LLL?

[queen bay]

no, i got the normal one (LethalLevelLoader v1.1.6 by IAmBatby)

[old fiber]

Oh alright

[uneven stream]

Could you try it with LLLFixed by chance?

We think that might be it

Since I guess base LLL has desync issues @sacred quiver said

He's been testing with it

[sacred quiver]

@vapid pendant Having just LLL disabled and using only LLLFixed gets you stuck like this in the ship. Any ideas? Running both LLLs fixes the issue, but it seems to cause LLL not to generate any interior or modded moon configs

Also LethalProgression causes the same problem

[queen bay]

same here, LLLFixed does not solve it

[uneven stream]

@north thorn the all knowing is there a time that Pure and I can get your assistance with trying to find out the cause of these issues with Black Mesa?

[north thorn]

I might not be free tonight to look at it but I'll let you know if I am before it's too late at night

[uneven stream]

No worries! Pure and I are just so confused why this seemingly doesn't work with the dll, but does work whenever I never had a dll

[sacred quiver]

And the dll is the same as teraspace and it has none of these issues

[sacred quiver]

Sorry for the ping earlier @vapid pendant, we narrowed it down to some mod conflicts. The odd issue is, these conflicts only happen when using the version with the dll loading the interior. The older version of the moon just forced the dungeonflow via the selectable level. Any ideas why only the newer version has these problems?

[old fiber]

Zaggy do be hella smart tho😂 bro is the goat

[uneven stream]

Reverting the config + dll changes to bring things back to how they were

[north thorn]

judging by the log [here](#1215444909092249672 message), it appears that one of your ConnectorPrefabWeights' spawned objects is null?

there's an error on this line in LLL

if it's working when LLL itself loads the assets but not when your dll does though, could it somehow be trying to load the assets twice or something?

[uneven stream]

Pure and I also had these:

When selecting Online in main menu

Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.Extensions.GetSpawnSyncedObjects (DunGen.Graph.DungeonFlow dungeonFlow) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_0059)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader.RegisterDungeonContent (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedDungeonFlow extendedDungeonFlow, Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager networkManager) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_005E)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader.RegisterCustomContent (Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager networkManager) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_0022)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.GameNetworkManagerStart_Prefix (GameNetworkManager __instance) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_00ED)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetworkManager.DMD<GameNetworkManager::Start>(GameNetworkManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<GameNetworkManager::Start>?1163174992(GameNetworkManager)
LethalLib.Modules.NetworkPrefabs.GameNetworkManager_Start (On.GameNetworkManager+orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self) (at <c68aa40cbbae4bd69cd2fcd50c8f1ae1>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<GameNetworkManager::Start>?2032614628(GameNetworkManager)```
 
When trying to join other player
```[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
GameNetworkManager.StartClient (Steamworks.SteamId id) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0021)
GameNetworkManager.JoinLobby (Steamworks.Data.Lobby lobby, Steamworks.SteamId id) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0167)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0002)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_005D)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0014)```

[north thorn]

that first error is probably the precipitator

that looks the same as I saw in the logs

[uneven stream]

ah interesting, I will have to check the prefab weights then

would that cause these so many issues?

[north thorn]

oh yeah

[uneven stream]

I reverted back to how things were before the dll/ config and it is all working fine now

can you join vc for a few minutes? Or is it too late over there?

[north thorn]

the function is called in a prefix of GameNetworkManager.Start(), so it stops everything else from setting up

I'm fine with looking for a bit sure

oh I didn't see you in voice

[uneven stream]

we are camping in here haha

@north thorn

[uneven stream]

[Error  : Unity Log] Failed to read data for the AssetBundle 'C:\Users\jeffr\AppData\Roaming\r2modmanPlus-local\LethalCompany\profiles\Black Mesa Test 2\BepInEx\plugins\Plastered_Crab-Black_Mesa_Half_Life_Moon_Interior\blackmesainterior'.
[Error  :Black Mesa Interior] Failed to load Interior Dungeon assets.
[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
BlackMesa.BlackMesaInterior.Awake () (at <cdda1085454249d1a008094460524216>:IL_0127)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()```

[uneven stream]

While we battle with the dll/plugin causing every issue known to man, here is this test for some Handheld TV items that broadcast to the Surveillance system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ0OB5T-NOU&ab_channel=PlasteredCrab

[vernal crater]

thats actually so cool

[uneven stream]

it's been fun to work on!

It also works as a walkie talkie still

but I want to add some code so that it can only be used within Black Mesa

they might blow up if they leave the facility or something idk

[old fiber]

Enemies made long term enemies for interior would be nice

[uneven stream]

like they carry over each day?

[old fiber]

idk but that would be intresting

[lost moss]

this is much better than flashlight

[uneven stream]

We think we found the issue for the config/dll version thanks to Zaggy the god

[uneven stream]

Doors and Vent Doors are now fully synced with all players

Handheld TVs also sync for all players

and also Surveillance system is synced for all players now too

v49 update I want to have out tonight that has working config

then v50 once LLL is updated

[uneven stream]

Not sure if this will actually work in-game since it depends on enabling Light Layers in the HDRenderPipelineAsset.asset which idk if we can alter, but I did a test where there is a spotlight that only the camera on the handheldTV can see which essentially makes night vision

https://youtu.be/U-P0J-cQ8kQ

That way the TV operator can see more of what the player can't see

[uneven stream]

Half Life Black Mesa Moon + Interior

[runic drum]

is this V50?

[lost hemlock]

LLL isn't updated yet so not at the moment

[uneven stream]

No custom moons or interiors are on v50 yet

Lethal level loader needs updated first, but once it is I'll rush it get it updated

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Plastered_Crab/Black_Mesa_Half_Life_Moon_Interior/

New update is out

[tribal jetty]

can monsters and loot spawn ?

[uneven stream]

Yes

[tribal jetty]

nice gonna download it

[uneven stream]

Have fun 🙂

[uneven stream]

Be sure to check out the new custom hand held tvs in the security room

They broadcast video to the surveillance system

Fun for playing with friends

They also serve as walkie talkies

The new version is 0.9.14 so it may take a bit before that version shows up on the thunder store or r2 mod man

Thank goodness for Zaggy and his all knowing wisdom or else this mod wouldn't be this put together 🙏

[worldly escarp]

@uneven stream How snare flea friendly is the Black Mesa Interior?

[uneven stream]

I haven't tested them exclusively yet, but one did land on my head when randomly testing on Experimentation lol

[uneven stream]

I am schemeing to work on a teleporter room tile that can show up in generation

where there teleporter in the center of the room can be 1 of many variants

and you don't know until you use it

I want it to either

• randomly send you deeper into the facility
• send you to the ship
• swap your positions with another player
• swap your positions with a random monster
• send you to a random monster
• send you to a random player
• explode

[undone fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-komarugif-komaru-everyday-комару-комаругиф-gif-9606335926411058399

@uneven stream

do you want me to test anything in particular

oh damn this is really cool

YOU GOT WORKING CHARGERS??????????????? AYO

[uneven stream]

I do haha 😄

[uneven stream]

glad all that is working on v50 with that hotfix LLL version

[undone fulcrum]

well its my first time ever playing this moon/interior so idk where to look if i were to search for broken stuff

[uneven stream]

try to take that custom walkie off the planet if you can

[undone fulcrum]

okie

[uneven stream]

it has a custom script to try to prevent it from happening

which may have issues with v50

but other than that it is all vanilla stuff

[undone fulcrum]

also lmao the icon

[uneven stream]

so it shouldn't have too many issues

yeah haha chonky walkie

couldn't figure out how to get the icon to change as it isn't a png haha

Made this for it and everything

[undone fulcrum]

i think the walkie is gone but the pic is still in my hotbar

let me just

[regal valley]

Genuinly asking but what will be the point of these custom cameras and the custom terminal if there's already one in the ship?

[undone fulcrum]

yeah it is gone

[uneven stream]

oh weird

[undone fulcrum]

its a common issue i think

[uneven stream]

these are for surveillance cameras in the inside

[undone fulcrum]

but yeah walkie itself is gone

[undone fulcrum]

oh you'd have to ask other modders for that ig haha

[uneven stream]

and the walkie tvs broadcast to the surveillance system in that room 🙂

[uneven stream]

did it blow up?

[undone fulcrum]

no

[regal valley]

But why would anyone stay there instead of the ship, like gameplay wise what is the point?

[uneven stream]

it is supposed to explode haha

[undone fulcrum]

im glad it didnt

i wouldve died if it did

like irl

im gonna take two and put one on the floor

[uneven stream]

because you can see more of what is going on inside, and I am going to be adding interactable Quarantine doors, PA system to help lead players to Fire exits, etc

[undone fulcrum]

nope it just vanishes

[regal valley]

Ah that sounds interesting

[undone fulcrum]

this interior is insane damn

[uneven stream]

dang haha

[regal valley]

Can't wait to see it when it is done

[uneven stream]

i think it is due to zeekers adding another parameter to the spawning explosions

it explodes in v49 haha

[undone fulcrum]

damn you zeekers....

[uneven stream]

but I have a fix ready for whenever LLL is properly on v50

[undone fulcrum]

alsoooo it feels like black mesa is wayyyyyyy too good for a 0 cost moon

[uneven stream]

gonna be adding tons of custom scrap and custom crowbar weapon

[undone fulcrum]

i got a ton of scrap

[uneven stream]

oh yeah it will cost money later once it is full released 😛

Probably like a Titan

[undone fulcrum]

cool cool

also wanted to say that the doors sound a bit weird but overall this dungeon looks insane

[uneven stream]

also can you check if the vent ducts work still?

yeah the doors I want to animate to slide instead and add custom sounds

[undone fulcrum]

oh sure in a bit

[uneven stream]

right now it is vanilla sounds for them haha

[undone fulcrum]

ah, it sounds weird like it has some echo or something like that

[uneven stream]

but there are ventilation ducts that you can crawl through to get from room to room

and they have vent grates that you can open and close to get in

and hide from monsters etc

you can peek through them too since they have slits

monsters can crawl into them to chase you tho so be careful

[worldly escarp]

Love it! It would be cool for you to have some randomly generated pc screens that maybe are broken. These screens would have clues understood only by testing the teleporter. After enough experience with the different vsrrients players could learn a pattern.

I find that if it is overtly too dangerous people will avoid it. Bit if there is a tick, people will aim to find it.

[undone fulcrum]

maybe make it a room variant that only has a chance to appear?

[uneven stream]

oh absolutely that sounds like a great idea

[uneven stream]

yeah I have a room already made for it 😛

I just need to get the teleporter working and the custom code for the other effects

but yeah that would be cool to give clues!

[undone fulcrum]

yeah, but the part about experience would kinda ruin it a bit...

i love how mimics approaches that issue with having an easy mode with clues and hard without, but room variants that both have clues and dont have any at all sounds really nice

[uneven stream]

I could have a room with clues, and a fully random room

most players would choose to do it if they are in a pinch

like if they will die anyways or something haha

[undone fulcrum]

so you dont always get to know even if you're experienced. but then some would say that would be a bit unfair? but then again no one is forcing you to use the teleporter (unlike mimics)

on the side note
my r2 completely refuses to launch so me testing vents will probably have to wait

[uneven stream]

no worries 🙂

[undone fulcrum]

i dont think i can close the starting room one

[uneven stream]

oh yeah that one is always open

I might make it interactable later on, but wanted it as a mini-tutorial to getting players used to getting into a vent haha

[undone fulcrum]

well not too adventurous

[uneven stream]

oh good they work!

Yeah no way to prevent dead ends

like vanilla haha

probably gonna add lights to help show dead ends easier

but no way to fully prevent them with how DunGen is haha

[undone fulcrum]

now we need a headcrab enemy

i just had a brilliant idea

[uneven stream]

but at least dead ends have the added feature of enemies not wanting to pathfind through them

they only pathfind through vents that connect rooms

so you can use dead ends to hide from them in

[undone fulcrum]

just used one to traverse between rooms

[uneven stream]

one of my friends was going to work on that haha

have it turn you into a black mesa zombie but instead of infecting you it attacks you

[undone fulcrum]

idk if you have heard about scarlet mansion but it has its own coilhead variant thats like a knight that has a chance to spawn or something like that, but its literally a coilhead with a custom model (i think)

made me think about a headcrab that would be a model replacement of a snare flea

also
barnacles?

content warning has barnacles but without the dangling tongue 👀

[undone fulcrum]

oh a custom enemy would be really cool yeah

scratch the enemy variant thing haha

[uneven stream]

yeah all of those are planned once the facility is done 😄 I just don't know how to animate

vortigaunts that chase you around and their energy can teleport you
Barnacles that are like hazards and you have to smack your friends that get caught to be released

[uneven stream]

scarlet mansion is really cool, I think enemy variants also would go nicely in some ways

[worldly escarp]

Puzzles are fun! 🙂

[uneven stream]

I know nothing about custom enemies tho so it would be very much so something to do at the end of this project haha

unless someone else works on the enemies first

[uneven stream]

yeah!

Might have the teleports have obvious variants to learn about

but then one broken down one that is fully random

for players truly desperate

kind of like Emergency Dice

[undone fulcrum]

i wonder if those work on v50

oh

werent there turrets in half life?

those could work like enemy variants

[regal valley]

yeah

There are also ceiling turrets and floor turrets

[undone fulcrum]

damn

thats a lot of turrets

[uneven stream]

yeah I was going to add some of those too cause they are sweeeet

and trip mines

but they go on the walls

with lasers to activate them instead of stepping on them

[undone fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-komarugif-komaru-everyday-комару-комаругиф-gif-9606335926411058399

[uneven stream]

so you have to jump over them or crouch under them

[undone fulcrum]

do you have a trash compactor room?

[uneven stream]

no but that would be funny

[undone fulcrum]

speaking of trash compactors, i wonder why no one has made a death star moon yet..... no star wars fans in lc community smh

[worldly escarp]

If you can find a way for these to be used in other Interiors I would giggle like a school girl! Also probably promptly die in the game.

[uneven stream]

I might have to manually place their potential spawn locations haha so idk if they will "just work" with other interiors due to rotational factors and have them spawn in heights that make sense

since I want to make sure it is polished for good jump heights and crouch heights 😛

[undone fulcrum]

zeekeers when he spawns a turret in factory wall

yk the parkour room with a steel beam

[worldly escarp]

Make this dream an attempt for after full release. 😛

[worldly escarp]

It's a feature. 😛

[uneven stream]

haha could be!

we will see how much gas in my tank I will have haha

btw @worldly escarp have you played it yet?

it should be very playable in the current state, especially with the dll/config issues fixed and now synced doors and everything 😄

[undone fulcrum]

even in v50!!!!

[uneven stream]

besides the cameras

they are supposed to go boom boom

[worldly escarp]

@uneven stream
I barely tested it last night. I was getting ready to release it in my last v49 update for shattered company. However I ran into an error.

I have never had this error with WT before so I am not sure why it happened. I sent it to @cyan drift
However, everything is in flux atm with the v50 drop so I do not expect him to get to it.

I will probably drop Black Mesa from the last v49 patch. So I will have Black mesa working with the other mods in v50.

I did some custom monster weights for it as well 😄

[uneven stream]

oh interesting! We are doing a huge 15 player test on it right now with lots of mods so we will see how it goes

[worldly escarp]

@uneven streamv50?

[uneven stream]

nah for v49 haha

[cyan drift]

oh no, it's my mistakes again

i'll look at it tomorrow

[uneven stream]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx_6brmAMh6d8R-2kEog5Afvr75hxer4bk?si=BZnX22x52accAthr

One of my friends in VR with the new Handheld TV from my interior

works way better than I expected it to for VR

[uneven stream]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjLCYslHEkqKY43vUZZKzUDmHm4uP1s1M?si=Hn3oQkw7N3Zsrc35

What happens when you try to leave the planet with the Handheld TVs

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxYb1uWo_E7lXFTjT76wid2esf2xmcW1d9?si=izBeeJR1xxsOVwU2

Coilhead spotted on the security camera feed while giving an introduction to the Surveillance System

[old fiber]

hype

[winged wasp]

https://youtu.be/h_ld5ij1aH0?si=gKDBa95EwB_VIJTa

[uneven stream]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxU7njqy0U8Ju-Xll_W0EmTmjbKqEn9gTI?si=GAZveGso4hRbijkI
It is really funny when someone dies when holding the Handheld TV too lol

[fierce depot]

will this tank average fps with all the prefab tiles that have to be loaded into the game?

[uneven stream]

I have heard it certainly does if you don't use Cullfactory

I don't notice anything really when I play at all, but I also don't play with tons and tons of mods which I know can also cause more lag

[north thorn]

I would imagine that the prefabs just increase the memory consumption if we're talking about when the interior isn't loaded

they don't run updates or anything, so they shouldn't affect fps directly on CPU, but if you get some of the game pushed into swap it'll slow it down

[uneven stream]

Been working on an Easter egg tv

[winged wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-coomer-half-life-half-life-vr-youre-not-war-criminal-no-military-to-judge-you-gif-17301066

[uneven stream]

Recent update for Black Mesa

Changelog

• Added Nightvision to HandheldTVs in the Security Room
• Tweaked position and lighting of HandheldTVs
• Precautionary measures for pesky players trying to leave the planet with the HandheldTV >:)
• Optimized the cameras for the Handheld TV and Security Terminal

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Plastered_Crab/Black_Mesa_Half_Life_Moon_Interior/

[worldly escarp]

@uneven stream
Does this include the pathing fix for the tram?

[sacred quiver]

I would assume so, I saw him fix it

[worldly escarp]

hmm they did not seem to pursue me.

[uneven stream]

not yet haha

That will be next update 🙂 for now the doggies will be upset at you for going in there, but they won't chase you in there yet in that version 🙂

[worldly escarp]

Will you be releasing it for v49?

[uneven stream]

Yeah I will do an update for v49 and then as soon as LLL is stable for v50 I will speedrun getting that working

[worldly escarp]

@uneven stream
Another question. Does the Handheld Camera work also as a walkie talkie?

[uneven stream]

Yeah they do 🙂

[worldly escarp]

What was their item name again?

[uneven stream]

Ah they should be HandheldTV

but in that version there are 2 prefab versions that are just copies

so HandheldTV1 and HandheldTV2

but in the next version Zaggy helped a TON with getting them to only need 1 item

[worldly escarp]

Woot

What will it be called

[uneven stream]

which will be called HandhledTV and can have up to 5 of them

[worldly escarp]

I will add it for forward compat

roger

[uneven stream]

they will dynamically detect monitors to broadcast to and be optimized

[uneven stream]

I want so bad to learn how to port over animations

I want to port these ceiling turrets

And these ground sentry turret versions

[thin stratus]

those would be cool to add to lc

[worldly escarp]

@uneven stream
Would you be able to add a sound to the Handheld TV next update for when the Talk button is pushed on the walkie.

Just so we know it is broadcasting.

Some mods like reserved slots allow you to press it without looking and I cannot tell if it is doing anything XD

[sacred quiver]

Did you manage to get it to go in the ReservedWalkie slot? I was trying the other day and I couldn't get it to go in

[uneven stream]

It should still be the default walkie sound at the moment

so it should still make that sound

[uneven stream]

https://youtu.be/nhCbDUaof9g
WIP wall mounted tripmine from Half Life

the laser itself is a LineRenderer which is seemingly doing odd things when you get close to it, so I will look at fixing that, but it does give the effect of cutting off the beam and as you pass through it that is what triggers it, similar to walking through the trigger zone of the tripmine

Once I get them looking a bit nicer I will have these have a chance to spawn on walls in the Interior for players to crouch under or jump over

[worldly escarp]

I did yes

[sacred quiver]

What did you put in the config for the item name?

[worldly escarp]

I'll post it when I get back to the pc.

[worldly escarp]

Interesting. For me it makes no sound.

Powering it on and off does. Push to talk does not

[worldly escarp]

Handheld TV,Handheld TV1,Handheld TV2

[sacred quiver]

I thought I tried that, I'll have to give it another go. Thanks👍

[uneven stream]

Oh weird for me clicking left mouse button to talk makes the sound lol

I'll try to check it again

Working on the custom apparatus room

[worldly escarp]

It could be some weird conflict

[uneven stream]

Or me just misremembering haha

I'm really excited to see how this custom apparatus room will work

[undone fulcrum]

is it gonna be the resonance cascade room?

[uneven stream]

Yee

[undone fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974425485222236180/1229186779412959252/shake.gif

god DAMN

[uneven stream]

Going to try to make it a Xen Crystal be the apparatus

So you gotta take the crystal and get it back to the ship

[undone fulcrum]

If it helps I think major's bunker interior has the apparatus model (I think?) changed

well I know for a fact that its green...

[uneven stream]

Yeah I'm hoping this will work too, gonna test it tonight but it'll be a full model swap and I'll try to add green electric particles when you take it out

[undone fulcrum]

custom music mod for meltdown when

[uneven stream]

Haha would be cool

At some point I'd like to make a custom event happen when you take the crystal

Like green lightning storm inside the facility but instead of killing you it teleports you if you get hit

But that'll be later on if I can figure it out

[undone fulcrum]

👀

[uneven stream]

Added 8 new tiles today that are lab based

Gonna clean them up a bit, playtest them for bugs and get them in to the next update

[past valve]

FIRE

[runic pike]

Does this place have an apparatus?

[sacred quiver]

Soon™

[runic pike]

FacilityMeltdown in this place finna be wild

[raven atlas]

i couldnt try this mod due to LLL not being updated yet because of the terminal unable to interact

anyone have any idea about LLL updates?

[regal valley]

Coming soon, you can use this as a temp solution tho
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Pineguys/LethalLevelLoaderFixedV50/

[raven atlas]

ah, lemme see

[raven atlas]

does it only work for v49 for now?

what about v50?

[regal valley]

the one I sent above is for v50

[raven atlas]

i couldnt find it in the terminal

[regal valley]

you need to have base LLL disabled

[raven atlas]

i do

i only disable LLL and leave the other 5 mods enabled, while have the fixed one enabled

[uneven stream]

people have gotten this to work for v50 using that above one

just don't bring the Handheld Walkies off planet in v50 as they are supposed to explode and don't rn in v50 due to explosion code on the backend changing

[celest pulsar]

That same explosion code is what made the snail unable to kill people and the shockwave drone immortal lmao

[old fiber]

i really think you should reconsider kt being free, and making itma very end game moon

more than artifice

[undone fulcrum]

its gonna be

[old fiber]

bet

[uneven stream]

yeah for full release I will make it probably around Titan

I just didn't want players to have to pay to travel to something that isn't finished yet haha

[old fiber]

Nah more than titan def artifice

This is the god moon

The ultimate moon and interior

The best moon and interior it has to be the final greatest end game moon

[raven atlas]

big brain moment

turns out i have both LLL and LLL fixed enabled for some reason

i can find the moon now

[uneven stream]

haha there it is

[raven atlas]

my bad

[uneven stream]

But yeah be sure to not bring the handheld TVs to the ship

other than that it should be fine

[raven atlas]

hmm alright

[uneven stream]

Some updates to the Security Room

it is now in the room next to the main entrance

[old fiber]

this is really cool, but i have question, is there any reason to use the secuirty room over the terminal

i think having multiple security rooms with teleporters in the facility would be nice

not the facility, the black mesa interior

[uneven stream]

Yeah there are screens on one side of the room that show all cameras in the main entrance to give you insight on things in the main area which is big and to the left is a whole system for watching all Handheld TV feeds of players

we also want to make the system act as a PA system to transmit audio to fire exits in the facility to help guide players with sound to them

also eventually doors you can open and close via that room to act as temporary containment in case monsters are there

[uneven stream]

Just hit over 10k downloads lets goo

[winged wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

Congrats!!

It’s well deserved

[uneven stream]

FINALLY learned how to add custom animations to the doors

[honest ginkgo]

pog

[raven atlas]

is there a way to disable lightings like this?

[winged wasp]

Looks great!

[old fiber]

ohh bett

[uneven stream]

That looks like the sun for some reason

And not the lights inside at all

@velvet vault have you seen the issue above with the sun at all? I have only seen it happen when my interior is on vanilla moons

[velvet vault]

Only on vanilla? That's the opposite scenario I'd expect

[lost hemlock]

a very cool interior but sadly quite performance intensive

moon too

[uneven stream]

Yeah next update will have a lot more optimization for the interior which I'm excited about

[uneven stream]

Moon optimization will come eventually too cause I totally agree haha

Did that lighting bug happen on a vanilla moon? Or maybe did you not have Cull factory?

Curious why the heck the sun was showing through lmao

[lost hemlock]

epic to hear, really looking forward to adding it to my group's mod list

[uneven stream]

Would you mind answering some of the questions above? I want to see what the issue is so it doesn't happen again 😅

[uneven stream]

This one

[raven atlas]

I have cull factory on, though the sun light didn't appear in vanilla interiors

[uneven stream]

interesting

That gives me some stuff to investigate thank you 🙂

Oh my

I just realized I was replying to the wrong person the whole time lol

Sorry smodgy

I'm tired and just woke up lol

[lost hemlock]

all good man

[uneven stream]

https://youtu.be/HQV1hdUZiuo?si=2LoyeJPBJEkP9CoT

Bigger Test of the new Door Animations + Sounds, new Security Room updates, and Custom Apparatus Item + Room

[white stump]

love it!
Btw, at least in my version, inputting "C" is enough to "confirm", one character seems to do the job 😉

[uneven stream]

ah good to know!

will save me some time haha

[lost hemlock]

I love the makeshift control room for "ship players", very nice being the guy in the chair but more involved since you are actually inside the facility

but sadly those extra dual rendered cams melt fps haha

[uneven stream]

the next update is coming with a ton of optimizations for the cameras thanks to Zaggy's help 🙂

[lost hemlock]

ah right that's what the optimisation is about, very nice

will the update perhaps include lods too? or maybe even slight reduction in decor pieces and similar for optimisation sake?

[undone fulcrum]

been meaning to ask, does anyone know if this interior works in v50 with lll's unofficial fix? have only seen reports of it causing a black screen on joining and can't test it myself rn

[uneven stream]

I don't know how LODs would work since these are game assets and idk how I would go about making them LODs, but in the recent build Cullfactory makes the interior run at 50-60 fps for low to mid range machines compared to ~30 fps on the current live build

[uneven stream]

Yeah I've seen people play it on v50 with that

Only thing that doesn't work is the handheld TVs exploding when you take them off planet, since the explosion code was changed in v50

So don't bring them off planet lol

[undone fulcrum]

alr ty, will try to test it out myself next time I play!

[uneven stream]

I'll be working on more updates for this for until v50 is out and ready for LLL

Once it is then I'll push the latest changes out for v49 and then make a v50 version of it

Then I'll probably only keep it at v50 after that

[lost hemlock]

got it

[undone fulcrum]

oh this looks sick

[uneven stream]

Got it to where the handheld TVs can be dropped on the ground facing upright so that way they can be deployed around the interior

that way they can still be useful even when dropped

so you can set them up to watch certain doorways or hallways

[uneven stream]

A friend showed up out of nowhere to help with testing and scared the shit out of me

[celest pulsar]

Looking forward to trying out the interior in the future

An inside terminal setup sounds super interesting and I'd defo try it out

[uneven stream]

it'll have good reason to be in there

I want to also add a PA system in there to talk through speakers in the facility if I can figure it out

as well as some containment door controls

kinda like FNAF a bit

[celest pulsar]

Ah shiiii

I'm usually the terminal guy in ny runs so this sounds like fun

[uneven stream]

https://youtu.be/7GyFelXE9SE

New HandheldTV (ZagCam) feature test

showing off letting you deploy them on the ground to watch specific places and also them becoming body cameras when you pocket them

(ignore the weird lines on the terminal screens too, that is just because screens render weird in Unity's Editor)

[brazen forge]

so does this interior work with LLL v50?

or its broken like SDM atm

[sacred quiver]

It should work, just don't take the handheld tv's off the moon rn

[winged nebula]

good news, it does work with the current LLL

[sacred quiver]

The update for v50 should be soon

[winged nebula]

but I can't exit the game while staying on that moon

[uneven stream]

Good to know! This should be fixed for v50. That wasn't an issue for v49 so something must have changed there too

[winged nebula]

good thing is that I can still play with it just fine

not much else is broken

[uneven stream]

impressive since that current live build was mostly meant for v49 haha

next update will come with lots of new features we've been cooking

[deep wing]

Excited to try this out, looks insanely well done.

[uneven stream]

new update hopefully in a day or so will come with a tooon more stuff

and v50 support

well it does work with v50 already I guess

as long as you don't bring the handheld cams onto the ship and fly off

[winged nebula]

yeah also the "scanforitem" glitch

[uneven stream]

oh which is that?

we think we have it ready for v50 now

but I want to make sure that glitch won't be an issue

[winged nebula]

it might be just a nutcracker spawned im not sure

also somehow after I changed a few things about blackmesa in LL's config the terminal breaks

is it normal to have 2 outside fire exits linked to the same indoor fire exit

oh wait its happening on every round

[uneven stream]

yeah it is an issue with how I did it originally but that should be fixed next updatew (hopefully tonight)

Confirmed that spray paint seems to work as well which is nice

not sure about BetterSprayPaint

haven't tested it

[winged nebula]

Im getting this weird issue where in Black mesa the terminal cease to function

it seems to be only happening to this particular moon, and the way terminal fails is that you interact with it and the "press E" thingy is gone

I suppose it has something to do with the configs cuz i never got this issue before

[uneven stream]

What mods do you have? We haven't seen that at all yet and doesn't seem to be an issue with the v50 one we are working with

can you send the logs?

[winged nebula]

i might do some troubleshooting first

Im trying to modify the scrap amount and enemy spawnpool on each moon

[uneven stream]

yeah all that should be possible with this mod, but are you on v49 or v50?

some things for that have changed for v50 which should be released for this mod officially soon. So I imagine some config stuff might break if you are trying to edit values if you are playing on v50 for this mod

hoping to release official v50 for this tonight if possible, but at very least tomorrow

[winged nebula]

v50

[uneven stream]

ah yeah then the config stuff you are doing might be making it mad

it should have official v50 support very soon, including fully v50 config support as v50 config variable names have changed

[winged nebula]

yes and i'll be patiently waiting

uhhhhh

i disabled content configuration in LLL but its still not fixed

i guess once broken there's no going back huh

[winged nebula]

oh wait it might be a conflict with Detailedscan

bcs i was trying to get a accurate read on the value of scraps spawned inside

yes it is a conflict between blackmesa and detailedscan

[sacred quiver]

TerminalFormatter by Mrov has the same functionality as detailedscan and doesn't have the issue. I recommend using that instead

[winged nebula]

is it client sided?

[sacred quiver]

yes

[winged nebula]

oh good

[winged nebula]

uhh isn't black mesa supposed to be underground, the rain just go through the roof

also is there a way to better the performance of this interior

my framerate cant go above 30 once i go deep within black mesa

[uneven stream]

Are you using Cullfactory?

It gets 60fps if you use cullfactory

[undone fulcrum]

yeeeeeeahhh, tried it out the other day with a heavy modpack, def performance-heavy

[uneven stream]

Or at least on the build that is coming out soon

The optimization changes should help a lot

[undone fulcrum]

oh thats cool

FakeNitroEmoji

[winged nebula]

i do have that in my modlist

well most of the modded interiors do work smoothly but black mesa

[ornate coral]

Woo!

[uneven stream]

well hopefully the 20 hours spent to optimize the interior entrance and exterior help a bit lol

[winged nebula]

somehow it broke everything

even the LGU layout

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-arrival-avengers-gif-10391688

Time has come

I am ready for you

[uneven stream]

Cooking up some more stuff

V50 update I am hoping can come out tonight

[uneven stream]

Dang ol green lightning won't stay lmao

Well that isn't not quite right

https://tenor.com/view/doing-the-worm-wally-clark-school-spirits-s1-e6-worm-dance-gif-9698111266113708434

[undone fulcrum]

lmaoooo

[uneven stream]

Much better

now I just need a cheap plasma ball in the center

Looks really cool when the custom apparatus gets pulled

[uneven stream]

@upbeat haven

[upbeat haven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1215088130093219840/1219752438618259486/weeee-lethal-company.gif

[uneven stream]

specc this room out so far

[upbeat haven]

RAHHHHHH

JESUS

the cooking went

hard

[uneven stream]

Xen Observation lab room tile

[grave knot]

so I'm not sure if It's just me, but when I play the black mesa map is seems to break all the other moons when I leave the moon in multiplayer

is that gonna be fixed as well in this update? if It's not just me

[uneven stream]

Are you on v50?

[grave knot]

yess

[uneven stream]

Ah yeah the current version was only for v49 so far, but I'm hoping to be done with my v50 update tonight

Should fix that

V50 causes weird issues with mods from v49 lol

[grave knot]

I actually wish the game didn't update LuL but I am looking forward to the fix :) amazingly detailed map

[uneven stream]

Next update will be adding loooooots of new stuff so hope you like it!

[grave knot]

Looking even more forward to it! thanks for your lovely work Heh

[uneven stream]

Upcoming Changelog for next update

• Fixed all normal issues for textures so lighting looks great now
• Added nice lighting to each room (that syncs with the Apparatus Room)
• Added custom apparatus room + custom apparatus (Resonance Cascade Room + Xen Crystal)
• Added new single and double doors as well as blockers
• Added custom animations for new doors + custom sounds for them too
• Added 10 new tiles for generation (total is now at 110+ room tiles)
• Added new features to Handheld TVs (ZagCams) such as bodycameras, ground deployment, etc
• Tweaked nightvision of ZagCams
• Optimizations added to Security Terminals so cameras only render when the screens are being looked at
• Revamped entire security room (moved it, added it to be next to Start entrance)
• Added custom Clipboard to Security Room for lore and instructions to Security Room features
• Tweaked fire escapes to try to fix syncing issues
• Tweaked Scrap Spawns to help spread them better
• Tweaked monster spawns to be more intense and worth the risk of going in
• Tweaked vent ducts to try to prevent players from falling through them
• Tweaked dungeon size a bit
• Optimized exterior and interior to give more fps (still requires Cullfactory)

[uneven stream]

Couldn't do it without the help of my friends too!

They've done a lot of testing and bug fixing 🙂

[untold knot]

Should we foresee any unforeseen consequences?

https://tenor.com/view/fempyro-gif-21115940

[uneven stream]

Definitely 🙂

Be sure to read the clipboard in the security room

[ornate coral]

When the update releases I can't wait to see how it works

[uneven stream]

Excited to get to custom hazard stuff and custom enemies

[grave knot]

custom enemies on a half life based map is going to be such a W

[uneven stream]

Yeah it'll be fun to work on haha

[ornate coral]

Ah Gordon Freeman. It's good to see you.

[uneven stream]

First one will probably be a headcrab and zombie employee

[ornate coral]

Headcrab is like the uh

Snare flea

But grounded and lunges

[grave knot]

you should have the headcrab attach if possible Lul but like, at low health

[ornate coral]

Duh

[regal valley]

You should have one rare easter egg headcrab that's friendly and his name would be be Lamar lol

[uneven stream]

I'll probably do it like snareflea but have it lunge and damage players, and if player is low health enough jump on their heads and if not smacked with a shovel in time then they get turned into a zombie employee

Which will act like a mimic, but be a bit slower and attack players instead of turning them into another zombie

[grave knot]

now that is an extraordinary idea for a headcrab enemy

[uneven stream]

And of course make scary noises

[grave knot]

half life alyx type noises

[uneven stream]

I've got all their animations and sounds already grabbed haha

[white stump]

There's probably tons of code to handle the "kidnapping" that could get in the way, but also the Tulip Snake seems a valid option to use as a base for the headcrab (it already jumps and lunges)

[uneven stream]

Just wanted to wait to dive in until I get the interior mor polished

[uneven stream]

Yeah excited to see how best to do it, but tulips wouldn't be bad either!

I'm excited to do Barnacles too

And have players go ragdoll and get sucked to the ceiling if they hit the tongue

[grave knot]

going full send on the enemies is gonna be a W, let's pray the game doesn't update until that is completed LuL

[uneven stream]

And maybe eventually a Gman that stalks you like the ghost girl, but if he touches you then he teleports you with your loot to a random location

I also already have a test version of a Tripmine going

But holding off for implementing it and polishing it

https://youtu.be/uhsyUSNitzY?si=WM92cRJt1of0g6TP

Nothing is final about these trip mines at all and are just a proof of concept for now

[ornate coral]

Can we have microwave room

Please

[uneven stream]

Going to be interesting having mines you have to duck under or jump over and not go around

Oh yeah I have that already mostly done

Microwave room will be getting in eventually

[ornate coral]

"STOP FUCKING WITH THE MICROWAVE"

[uneven stream]

Have about 20-30 other tiles I am almost done with

[ornate coral]

Dear god

[grave knot]

the concept looks lovely so far, expanding the radius on the explosion for like 50 dmg each would probably be good, or the closer to the inital explosion the more dmg

[uneven stream]

Yeah I wanted more radius for sure since you could just hug the wall to the other side and avoid the blast haha

Basically enough radius to make sure you yet damaged or die from it

[grave knot]

oh yeah that'd be so sad if players just avoided it LuL

[untold knot]

I feel like Gman's the kind of enemy you would only interact with at a distance. You would see him at an intersection down the hallway, he'd adjust his tie and walk out of sight and then you run up there and its a dead end and he's gone, but maybe sometimes he leaves behind a portal or something?

[uneven stream]

And have it go off as soon as the laser is touched

[untold knot]

in most of the games if Gman actually did anything it was helpful to the player

[uneven stream]

Yeah maybe Vortigaunts should be the teleporting ebemies

Chasing you down to throw a teleportation beam at you

[grave knot]

GMan could be similar to Schizophrenia LuL like he shows up in your vision and speaks if you look at him

[untold knot]

yeah that would be really fitting

[ornate coral]

WAIT

Next update for V50?

[untold knot]

UM GALLAH LUNG

[uneven stream]

Nah no enemies for v50

[grave knot]

the headcrab and zombie employee are going to be the first enemies right most likely

[ornate coral]

No I mean the update for tonight

[uneven stream]

Oh yeah I'll likely be done with the update tonight

[uneven stream]

These are the changes getting in for the next update

[grave knot]

my pack will be perfect when this update drops heh

[ornate coral]

But I mean

This update. Tonight.

V50 compatible?

[uneven stream]

Yeah it will be the v50 update 🙂

[ornate coral]

Oh then I'm dumb

[grave knot]

hey how do you do the big bold font for the message?

[uneven stream]

Was going to do one for 49 but decided it wouldn't be worth the effort

But in front of your text

With a space after

[grave knot]

ohh okay, lovely
I manage a modpack for a server so that'll be useful :)

[ornate coral]

Is it gonna be uploaded soon?

[grave knot]

It'll be tonight sometime, we must be patient 😁

[ornate coral]

Fair

I don't mind

[uneven stream]

I have todo list to get through before I deem it polished enough to be uploaded but hopefully within 4 hours it'll be done

I say that now before we accidentally find something game breaking lmao

again

[ornate coral]

I mean this mod is

Huge

[jaunty thicket]

Damn.. LET THEM COOK!! 😭🙏

The things you do is a lot a lot

[uneven stream]

It was going to be released right about now, but running into something new causing fps issues now on low- mid range pcs

[ornate coral]

Man...

Get those fps issues outta there!

[uneven stream]

on my machine I get 70-80 fps

but that is the problem when you use higher end geometry haha

lethal geo is like poo so it runs at crazy fps usually

[ornate coral]

Tbh I'm gonna be real honest with ya. I feel getting the low range PCs

With good fps first before releasing

I cannot tell you how many people have that brick laptop

[uneven stream]

I don't think it will ever run at high fps on low end PCs tbh lol

[ornate coral]

Is... 60 high?

[vapid pendant]

skill issue

[uneven stream]

probably yeah

but yeah I spent like 10 hours culling backfaces, removing unseen geo for big tiles like the main entrance and the exterior, and it gave like 10-15 fps and is more stable

[vapid pendant]

you setting max texture res on stuff?

[uneven stream]

I used to get 55-60 fps but now I get 70 or so

nah all textures are on 512

[ornate coral]

Incredible

[uneven stream]

last thing I can think of is down the line trying what Cobertos has for his portal ripped levels

[ornate coral]

Especially with like 100 plus tiles

That's mental

[vapid pendant]

can run in editor and use unity's profiling tools

[uneven stream]

he has a script to merge some geo and whatnot

It also doesn't help that that I am still new to Unity hahaha

[ornate coral]

WHAT

[uneven stream]

So its nice to have people who know things with nice tips

[ornate coral]

Dude you are doing incredible for your first time with unity

[uneven stream]

Yeah never used Unity before a month ago haha

[ornate coral]

I'm not that well known with unity minus small things

But what I'm seeing with this moon

It's really good dude

[uneven stream]

Thank you T.T

[ornate coral]

🫡

[uneven stream]

If I can't ever pin down the fps stuff for lower end machines this might end up having to be a higher end machine moon lol, spent almost 400 hours into this so far and idk if there are many optimization ideas left to try, but if I do another interior at some point too then I would do things very different lol

most of this has been an experimental learning exercise haha

[ornate coral]

To be honest it's hard but textures are the biggest thing for performance

But I heard it's at... 512?

Going lower won't make it look as nice tbh

[uneven stream]

the game comes with 2k textures, so I made them 512 now

so they are currently 1/4 the quality

[ornate coral]

Oh here's a stupid idea. Maybe a config to lower the quality even more?

Lol

[uneven stream]

but worst case I could try 256 eventually, but yeah idk

oh gosh idk how to do that with a config haha

[ornate coral]

Tbh same

But asking around might help

[uneven stream]

most of that is done via unity on building the bundle I think

😅

[ornate coral]

Tbh?

It looks good at 512

Right

Then keep it at 512

256 would just. Mess it up. Tbh

But maybe putting down that the interior is not for low end PCs

[uneven stream]

yeah I will definitely mention that lol

[ornate coral]

I mean if you can find a unity expert to help with the config thing

That could help as well

🤷‍♂️

[vapid pendant]

@uneven stream hows your download speed

[uneven stream]

I have 600 Mb - 1 gig down usually

[vapid pendant]

if you send me your unity project i can try and take a gander when im free

[uneven stream]

Sure I can toss it your way! I can .7zip what I have after tonight and toss it your way

[ornate coral]

What you planning? I'm intrigued

[uneven stream]

Just removed some things I was sus about and Zac said it seemed to have helped so at least that is good too

[vapid pendant]

you can remove these from the zip before you upload

[uneven stream]

will do!

Thanks Batby, I will try to pack it up later tonight and no rush on checking it out 🫡

[old fiber]

if u want u share ur project i would reccomend git hub, also a great way to backup everything

[vapid pendant]

yeah but like

thats gotta be private

do not upload a dungeon or moon project to github publicly 😭

[old fiber]

cant u private stuff on git?

[vapid pendant]

you can

[old fiber]

then there we go? Or am i missing something

[ornate coral]

It's public domain on GitHub

Not the best idea tbh

Well not public domain

Like people can see the code

[vapid pendant]

unless its private

which is why i told him to set it to private

[ornate coral]

Fair

[old fiber]

oh alr, also its more work to set up thr github

[uneven stream]

I do that for my scripts but not the moon itself haha

[old fiber]

yea someone could just steal it

[uneven stream]

but the mod itself is huuuuuge so github might be mad about the whole thing on there

[old fiber]

how big is it?