robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:38 PM

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to ATLEAST be equal to 1

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:39 PM

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that's not what i was looking at to be fully honest

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but i'll check that stuff out

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:39 PM

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item weight is the most overcomplicatedly messy mod lol

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which didnt actually fix the issue

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so many transpilers from what i remember

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:39 PM

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i hate how it applies its config values

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but 🤷

icy sapphire Apr 17, 2025, 10:39 PM

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robust drum to ATLEAST be equal to 1

is this the bug that lethal weight fix tries to address

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:39 PM

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i got it so streamlined i'm honestly surprised myself

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:39 PM

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i might be confusing myself between lethal weight fix and item weights

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:40 PM

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that's the whole thing

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no terminal fucking patches

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no evil refreshes

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just works

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lol

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:40 PM

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lol

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yeah

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okay

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so you're making a mod that allows people to adjust item weight and item cost in runtime

icy sapphire Apr 17, 2025, 10:40 PM

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is it just that a val lower than 1 or higher than 3 can overload the weight value and causes you to gain weight after dropping something

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:41 PM

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robust drum so you're making a mod that allows people to adjust item weight and item cost in...

i'm making a replacement for both https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DarthLilo/ItemWeights/ and https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/GuysNight/Balanced_Items/

Thunderstore

ItemWeights v1.2.1

A Lethal Company mod to easily control the weights of items!

Thunderstore

Balanced Items v1.6.0

This mod gives you the power to customize item weights, scrap values, and spawn rates - even for custom items from other mods, and make equipment items sellable. With a unique approach to config files, you can dynamically adjust some settings as you play.

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:41 PM

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icy sapphire is it just that a val lower than 1 or higher than 3 can overload the weight valu...

lower than 1 or higher than 2.75 (2.75 because in vanilla you can carry up to 4 items so we assume you carryying 2.75 * 4)

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:41 PM

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because however they're patching the stuff it's not working with terminalformatter

remote sage Apr 17, 2025, 10:41 PM

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was it to have it as a terminal formatter dependant?

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:41 PM

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and i can't be bothered to soft-depend on every mod to check its configs

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:42 PM

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snow swift i'm making a replacement for both https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dar...

oh nice, just make sure whatever stuff you do, you dont force you stuff unless a player changes default value or ticks a bool

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:42 PM

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remote sage was it to have it as a terminal formatter dependant?

it's not gonna be a dependency of TF

remote sage Apr 17, 2025, 10:42 PM

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aah alright-o, it's own separate thing then

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:42 PM

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yes

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it's gonna work on the same system as TF (mrovlib's contentmanager)

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you dont force you stuff unless a player changes default value or ticks a bool

oh dear

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that's gonna be fun to do

remote sage Apr 17, 2025, 10:43 PM

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so it is fully compatible and without weird price changes am i right?

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:43 PM

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remote sage so it is fully compatible and without weird price changes am i right?

that is the plan

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:43 PM

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but yeah if you wanted to make a config for weights, and you want a user to be able to input a weight in lbs, just make sure they cant give you a negative number or a number higher than like 288.75

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and obviously from there you have to make sure you dont fuck up basic math in converting their number to your number

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:44 PM

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this will be fun

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:44 PM

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which would just be something like:

x = userInput;
properGameValue = x / 105 + 1;
item.weight = properGameValue;

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that should be all you need to do, literally, lol

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:45 PM

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plan is as follows:

get vanilla weights
put them in config
use config from then

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:45 PM

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robust drum which would just be something like: ``` x = userInput; properGameValue = x / 105...

remote sage Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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it's like a reverse engineer weight, you end with the total and the code <should> make the game say "this is the end goal" without the weird calc it does

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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fun

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a level of abstraction is always welcomed for the non-techy users

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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snow swift

i know you're better than chatgpt morvian

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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I KNOW I CAN

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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especially when chatgpt gets it wrong

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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but i succumbed to the temptation

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😭

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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chatgpt is literally clamping a value like 1.2 between 0 and 100

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laughsharder

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:46 PM

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lol

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i will right my wrong

robust drum Apr 17, 2025, 10:47 PM

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lol

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but yeah you're clamping in the wrong step anyway

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either clamp the first step or the final one

snow swift Apr 17, 2025, 10:47 PM

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i will do this

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wa

runic canyon Apr 17, 2025, 11:02 PM

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The anvil lol

timber canyon Apr 18, 2025, 12:38 AM

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Will it have the same functionality as ItemWeights

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Where you have to press a keybind to enter an item into the thingamajig

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Every item inside at once in its config would be bloat, and you would have to painstakingly sift through the items for the one you want to find

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I mean item as in like items you physically hold

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Not decor, upgrades, etc

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:35 AM

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timber canyon Every item inside at once in its config would be bloat, and you would have to pa...

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it's gonna be sorted alphabetically, so it's gonna be less bloat than an unordered list

bitter sparrow Apr 18, 2025, 10:36 AM

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i think im fine with that

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value ranges will also be changable?

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:39 AM

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oh yeah, i can make them use sliders

timber canyon Apr 18, 2025, 10:39 AM

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snow swift

Yeesh

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Still pretty bad organization Imo

bitter sparrow Apr 18, 2025, 10:40 AM

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snow swift oh yeah, i can make them use sliders

as long as they use the 32 bit integer limit just in case people want absurd price ranges

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:40 AM

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so a better solution would be to have a keybind that generates configs after it's pressed with that specific item in hand?

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i'm not sure i see how that's better UX

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:41 AM

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bitter sparrow as long as they use the 32 bit integer limit just in case people want absurd pri...

oh no 💀

bitter sparrow Apr 18, 2025, 10:42 AM

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the only problem is the keybind for itemweights has to be changed by each individual person

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for a while i didnt even know it was rebindable

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:42 AM

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exactly my point

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if you have to go through README to begin using a mod and its configs

bitter sparrow Apr 18, 2025, 10:42 AM

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well maybe the problem is more so the default is I

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:42 AM

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its bad design

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also: itemweights by default does this:

timber canyon Apr 18, 2025, 10:47 AM

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snow swift so a *better* solution would be to have a keybind that generates configs *after*...

There should be an option for a keybind instead

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because I don't want to scroll down through 99% of shit I don't use

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:47 AM

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why is navigating through an ordered list bad

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like genuinely

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i want to know your reasons

timber canyon Apr 18, 2025, 10:47 AM

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More time-consuming, and I have slight trouble reading and keeping memory

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:48 AM

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hm

timber canyon Apr 18, 2025, 10:48 AM

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Having specifically only what you want in the config is nicer Imo

snow swift Apr 18, 2025, 10:48 AM

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i'll try to cook something for that

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but it's gonna be opt-in

timber canyon Apr 18, 2025, 10:49 AM

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acoustic yoke Apr 20, 2025, 4:53 PM

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does anyone else have this happen

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when they type fast

kindred raptor Apr 20, 2025, 5:51 PM

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yes

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it normally appears inbetween $ and the price for me

runic canyon Apr 21, 2025, 2:47 PM

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acoustic yoke

easy fix

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don't type fast

wispy tangle May 27, 2025, 7:13 PM

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Does this mod still get updated? Would it be possible to add support for LethalMoonUnlocks moon discounts?

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As in have a (-X%) next to the price of discounted moons, like with shop items?

snow swift Jun 1, 2025, 2:49 PM

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i'll try to add that, no promises as to when

little elbow Jun 1, 2025, 3:00 PM

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snow swift i'll try to add that, no promises as to when

Is the mod compatible with v70

wispy tangle Jun 2, 2025, 3:49 PM

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little elbow Is the mod compatible with v70

Works fine for me

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Actually, did Experimentation always go right up to the 'B'?

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Feel like it should be offset slightly, don't remember what it was like before

bitter sparrow Jun 2, 2025, 3:59 PM

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wispy tangle Actually, did Experimentation always go right up to the 'B'?

experimentations hazard level is B in vanilla

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i dont believe the hazard levels are actually trying to be helpful to the player though, ive always taken them as only specifically talking about the moons environmental conditions and not monster spawns/activity

wispy tangle Jun 2, 2025, 4:00 PM

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bitter sparrow experimentations hazard level is B in vanilla

Ah no I meant the formatting, it looks like it's all one word

bitter sparrow Jun 2, 2025, 4:00 PM

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the only moon this doesnt make sense for is embrion

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OH

wispy tangle Jun 2, 2025, 4:01 PM

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Like I don't think it did this before, could be wrong though

bitter sparrow Jun 2, 2025, 4:02 PM

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there is a way to make it spaced out cause my mod pack isnt like this

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but i dont remember

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cant check atm

wispy tangle Jun 2, 2025, 4:02 PM

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Yeah it's possible it was fixed before by another mod that I haven't re-enabled yet

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Wait actually it's a D not a B, no idea what mod changed that

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I thought it was Map Improvements but that's still disabled rn

snow swift Jun 3, 2025, 3:39 PM

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wispy tangle Wait actually it's a D not a B, no idea what mod changed that

LLL does that

snow swift Jun 3, 2025, 3:39 PM

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wispy tangle Actually, did Experimentation always go right up to the 'B'?

and, umm

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what happened here 😳

rich storm Jun 4, 2025, 1:34 PM

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snow swift LLL does that

~~sorry~~

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wait i dont change vanilla ones do i

snow swift Jun 4, 2025, 10:02 PM

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i don't know tbh

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i thought you change all of the ranks based on the difficulty rating calculations

rich storm Jun 5, 2025, 4:50 AM

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the custom ones

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it only works because i use vanilla stuff as a baseline

bitter sparrow Jun 5, 2025, 6:39 AM

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@snow swift the simulate command for non-host clients is bugged and shows the moon's default interior chances as opposed to configured chances (if there)

snow swift Jun 5, 2025, 1:09 PM

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bitter sparrow <@231002429406183424> the simulate command for non-host clients is bugged and sh...

🥺 that's not good

kindred raptor Jun 5, 2025, 3:53 PM

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bitter sparrow <@231002429406183424> the simulate command for non-host clients is bugged and sh...

That happens when you use LQ

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Not a terminal formatter issue

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Unless you are not using it

bitter sparrow Jun 5, 2025, 7:11 PM

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i use CC

kindred raptor Jun 5, 2025, 8:26 PM

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bitter sparrow i use CC

Maybe it happens with CC too who knows!

runic canyon Jun 7, 2025, 2:12 PM

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bitter sparrow <@231002429406183424> the simulate command for non-host clients is bugged and sh...

The simulate commands only looks the LLL interior chances.
If you change it with CC or LQ, it won't be seen

bitter sparrow Jun 7, 2025, 2:12 PM

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that isnt true

runic canyon Jun 7, 2025, 2:12 PM

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the game takes the CC or LQ interior chances, but the simulate will show the LLL ones

bitter sparrow Jun 7, 2025, 2:12 PM

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i see the changed weights as host

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but for non-host clients, it doesnt show them

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id have to record my entire desktop for proof

runic canyon Jun 7, 2025, 2:13 PM

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If you want to check the CC values, copy and paste the chance values on the LLL config to match the values

bitter sparrow Jun 7, 2025, 2:13 PM

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and i just turned off my pc

runic canyon Jun 7, 2025, 2:14 PM

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bitter sparrow i see the changed weights as host

afaik, I don't

bitter sparrow Jun 7, 2025, 2:14 PM

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but i gladly will show that is the case

runic canyon Jun 7, 2025, 2:14 PM

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I've always seen the LLL values regardless using CC or LQ

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and I've used both

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deeply

rich storm Jun 7, 2025, 2:33 PM

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bitter sparrow but for non-host clients, it doesnt show them

lll configs aren't synced

snow swift Jun 7, 2025, 2:39 PM

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i'm just formatting what LLL is showing

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if the result is different without my mod present, i'll gladly look into it

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🥺

bitter sparrow Jun 7, 2025, 8:48 PM

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well i think batby confirmed its more so LLL than this mod

rich storm Jun 8, 2025, 4:10 AM

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yesn’t

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If cc or lq is meant to sync values its on them

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Otherwise just not implemented yes

cold wadi Jun 10, 2025, 1:58 PM

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Hey @snow swift terminal formatter has bug where cruiser value appears as 0

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I tested it alone and confirmed it was this mod

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It appears as 0 in the store but still is 370.

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Plz fix soon when u have time

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:35 PM

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Hi ! I've been issuing this error

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This seems to be due to a mod but I can't tell which one from the message

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basically it prevents from scrolling in the terminal

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:36 PM

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MrovLib reads the Terminal instance as null, hence the error

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it's impossible to occur without other mod breaking completely

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could you check if you get any errors earlier in the log?

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:37 PM

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I'll check

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I doubt it has anything to do but just in case

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it happens way earlier, I think it's around the gameplay start

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There's no earlier errors related to the terminal

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:40 PM

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yeah, you have Sector-0 added twice

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possibly in a bundle and standalone at the same time

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:40 PM

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this can cause such issues ?

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:40 PM

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yes

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:40 PM

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snow swift possibly in a bundle and standalone at the same time

I don't understand why map makers don't make "modpacks" instead of bundling all their moon in one zip

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:40 PM

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🙃

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:41 PM

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Alright I'll retry

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:41 PM

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I've been fighting for exactly this for many months

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:41 PM

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I support your cause

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:41 PM

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but some moon makers (I'm talking about your bundles again, @narrow latch) have their own vision

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and, well

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it's not bad

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but god it's painful

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:42 PM

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It's painful both for players who install mods and end up with conflicts like these, because you don't really know which moons you have installed, and it's painful for Thunderstore because you literally double upload your mods

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:43 PM

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zinc stump I doubt it has anything to do but just in case

I've added those ugly-danger-color logs to clearly indicate that the game will throw a fit

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:43 PM

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Good to know

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:43 PM

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because I've been resolving exactly this at least 10 times

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Alright I'm sorry that you have to re-re-resay that xd

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:44 PM

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and it's causing issues in my mods, LLL and others that have anything to do with planet names

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:44 PM

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zinc stump Alright I'm sorry that you have to re-re-resay that xd

oh, no problem at all

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a quick look at logs fixed it in 10 seconds

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Yep

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:44 PM

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I've downloaded many modpacks to get to that conclusion 🤭

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pain

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:45 PM

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Yep I understand your feeling

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Useless to say that when your mod relies on many others, it's always a pain to figure out where errors might come from (Enhanced Monsters is a little player in this domain)

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:45 PM

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that's so true

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when the errors get lost in the dependency chain

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😓

narrow latch Jun 12, 2025, 3:46 PM

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snow swift but *some* moon makers (I'm talking about your bundles again, <@4815686182204866...

what did I do

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:47 PM

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zinc stump I doubt it has anything to do but just in case

out of curiosity: at what point did those show up (right after starting a lobby, during loading, after loading in)? 😅

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because they are supposed to be a last thing after completely loading into a lobby

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:47 PM

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snow swift out of curiosity: at what point did those show up (right after starting a lobby,...

I'm not really sure but it's before the game tells that the lobby is open, and after you select a save

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:47 PM

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so you can see that something is not right and it's not lost in the weeds

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:47 PM

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so I'd say during the loading

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:47 PM

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zinc stump I'm not really sure but it's before the game tells that the lobby is open, and a...

alrighty

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:48 PM

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narrow latch what did I do

890MB of downloading asteroid-13 rocks

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😭

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:48 PM

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narrow latch what did I do

you are bundling your moons in a zip instead of making a modpack

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so I don't know which moons I have installed in gale

narrow latch Jun 12, 2025, 3:48 PM

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oh

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right

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hehe

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:49 PM

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narrow latch hehe

you bastard

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 3:50 PM

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You're overloading Thunderstore servers :(

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 3:50 PM

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I'm gonna be honest: the journeys update wouldn't work with everything standalone

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buuuut

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the download sizes holy shit

narrow latch Jun 12, 2025, 3:52 PM

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snow swift you bastard

webleyhappy

short inlet Jun 12, 2025, 4:54 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915715625400270858/1380333292695584768/image0.gif

icy sapphire Jun 12, 2025, 8:30 PM

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snow swift I'm gonna be honest: the journeys update wouldn't work with everything standalon...

I though it does?

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Don't you just have to have Galetry installed for all the journeys stuff to work?

snow swift Jun 12, 2025, 8:31 PM

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the first release of journeys was bundle-only

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and I've made my comment based on that bundling choice in mind

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since releasing day-1 everything separately would've been difficult to make people experience it like it was intended to be experienced

icy sapphire Jun 12, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Oh right

zinc stump Jun 12, 2025, 8:37 PM

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galetry is a weasley's moon ?

kindred raptor Jun 12, 2025, 8:44 PM

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zinc stump galetry is a weasley's moon ?

is THE Wesley's Moon, where the Journey begins!

robust drum Jun 12, 2025, 9:55 PM

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snow swift since releasing day-1 everything separately would've been difficult to make peop...

me when i make galetry thunderstore depend on all the standalone releases

wispy tangle Jun 22, 2025, 3:07 PM

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What metric does SORT: DIFFICULTY use?

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Can I do anything to customise the order moons are listed?

kindred raptor Jun 22, 2025, 4:42 PM

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wispy tangle What metric does `SORT: DIFFICULTY` use?

Probably the rating (B, A, S, S+, etc)

wispy tangle Jun 22, 2025, 4:45 PM

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That's what I would've thought but it seems pretty arbitrary from what I can see

sharp scaffold Jun 22, 2025, 5:31 PM

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wispy tangle What metric does `SORT: DIFFICULTY` use?

Probably this one

GitHub

LethalLevelLoader/LethalLevelLoader/ExtendedManagers/LevelManager.c...

A Lethal Company API to allow for custom Level & Dungeon integration. - IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader

snow swift Jun 22, 2025, 7:52 PM

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wispy tangle What metric does `SORT: DIFFICULTY` use?

it uses the difficulty rating from LLL

snow swift Jun 22, 2025, 7:53 PM

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wispy tangle Can I do anything to customise the order moons are listed?

no, not yet

void ibex Jun 24, 2025, 2:55 PM

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its not that simple.

each moon is given a rating # which then get categorised into the visual referenced letters you see. LLL uses a base dictionary based off what the vanilla moons are given and their ratings, to assign ratings to anything else that doesnt have a rating.. but thats more the visual stuff, the hidden number is just a calculation.

so the "order" for "difficulty" is the numbers you dont see afaik, you can actually change that text with a post fix, and the order wont change.

this gives an idea on what in LLL controls the order, as i basically patch things and provide my own values. (sorry about the 10 tonnes of commented out code.. i did have a lot of fiddling to make this work)
https://github.com/VirusTLNR/DynamicMoonRatings/blob/master/Patches/MoonRatingsPatch.cs

GitHub

DynamicMoonRatings/Patches/MoonRatingsPatch.cs at master · VirusTL...

Contribute to VirusTLNR/DynamicMoonRatings development by creating an account on GitHub.

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in theory (havent checked), you could setup your own ordering system, own sort option, and decide how they are sorted in a similar way. (edit, actually, the custom sorting in my mod above probably does it for you, but not on the fly)

snow swift Jun 24, 2025, 6:14 PM

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void ibex in theory (havent checked), you could setup your own ordering system, own sort o...

I really wanted to avoid it 🥲

void ibex Jun 24, 2025, 7:01 PM

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snow swift I really wanted to avoid it 🥲

avoid on the fly changes? xD or new sorting options? haha

snow swift Jun 24, 2025, 11:52 PM

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adding my own sorting 😅 😅

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I think this might be the time tho

void ibex Jun 25, 2025, 9:05 AM

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haha, gl xD

rich storm Jun 27, 2025, 3:49 AM

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@snow swift are you relatively active-ish nowadays?

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eg. if i changed a couple terminal names you might be looking at would it be a pain to update your stuff when i updated?

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generally ofc

snow swift Jun 27, 2025, 8:16 AM

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rich storm eg. if i changed a couple terminal names you might be looking at would it be a p...

Not at all 😅

rich storm Jun 28, 2025, 6:03 AM

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@snow swift small QOL but the terminal refs in LLL are cleaned up 😄
old

        internal static TerminalKeyword routeKeyword;
        internal static TerminalKeyword routeInfoKeyword;
        internal static TerminalKeyword routeConfirmKeyword;
        internal static TerminalKeyword routeDenyKeyword;
        internal static TerminalKeyword moonsKeyword;
        internal static TerminalKeyword viewKeyword;
        internal static TerminalKeyword buyKeyword;
        internal static TerminalNode cancelRouteNode;
        internal static TerminalNode cancelPurchaseNode;

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new

        public struct KeywordReferences
        {
            public TerminalKeyword Route { get; private set; }
            public TerminalKeyword Buy { get; private set; }
            public TerminalKeyword Info { get; private set; }
            public TerminalKeyword View { get; private set; }
            public TerminalKeyword Moons { get; private set; }
            public TerminalKeyword Confirm { get; private set; }
            public TerminalKeyword Deny { get; private set; }
            public KeywordReferences(TerminalKeyword route, TerminalKeyword buy, TerminalKeyword info, TerminalKeyword view, TerminalKeyword moons, TerminalKeyword confirm, TerminalKeyword deny)
            {
                Route = route;
                Buy = buy;
                Info = info;
                View = view;
                Moons = moons;
                Confirm = confirm;
                Deny = deny;
            }
        }
        public static KeywordReferences Keywords { get; private set; }

        public struct NodeReferences
        {
            public TerminalNode CancelRoute { get; private set; }
            public TerminalNode CancelBuy { get; private set; }
            public NodeReferences(TerminalNode cancelRoute, TerminalNode cancelBuy)
            {
                CancelRoute = cancelRoute;
                CancelBuy = cancelBuy;
            }
        }
        public static NodeReferences Nodes { get; private set; }

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so now we can just do eg. TerminalManager.Keywords.Route

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if Unity didn't suck ass and was on the newer c#'s i could extend it into Terminal directly as a static property but oh well

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actually just chucked them in there anyway since most people do terminal stuff in the context of having the singleton reference

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so you can also do myTerminalInstance.Keywords().Route

snow swift Jun 28, 2025, 9:30 AM

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that's nice

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it's probably gonna be a simple recompile on my end 😇

snow swift Jul 13, 2025, 12:51 AM

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@buoyant fox could you send me more context of what's not working? 🥺

buoyant fox Jul 13, 2025, 7:34 AM

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Code Rebirth has decorative items that are set as upgrades by default. Swithching them to decor instead of upgrades doesn't seem to work with TF. They still show up in upgrades.

buoyant fox Jul 13, 2025, 10:21 AM

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📎 message.txt

snow swift Jul 13, 2025, 4:30 PM

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does CR support changing their "section" mid-game?

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if yes, then it's not gonna work nicely with MrovLib (in its current form)

robust drum Jul 13, 2025, 5:12 PM

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snow swift does CR support changing their "section" mid-game?

no

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i believe agitatio said they reloaded their game as well

snow swift Jul 13, 2025, 8:34 PM

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okay

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i'll check what's going on

desert roost Jul 15, 2025, 8:57 PM

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helloooo can you make oxyde not shown all the time

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thought it was selenes choicebut this one was at fault

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or maybe its both at once..

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but disabling this fixed it

robust drum Jul 15, 2025, 9:35 PM

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You don't check for hidden/locked mrov?

buoyant fox Jul 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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They do.

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There's even an option to always show hidden moons.

snow swift Jul 16, 2025, 10:02 AM

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robust drum You don't check for hidden/locked mrov?

I do

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don't really know why it's happening

timber canyon Oct 3, 2025, 3:05 AM

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0199a808-46f8-4407-bfb0-c3f685ca48e9

📎 LogOutput.log

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Unable to scroll at certain pages in the terminal; mod vomits out a huge error when I try to do

timber canyon Oct 3, 2025, 8:56 PM

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timber canyon Unable to scroll at certain pages in the terminal; mod vomits out a huge error w...

@snow swift

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Glue

snow swift Oct 3, 2025, 8:57 PM

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I'll take a look when I'm back home, sorry for no response 😅

timber canyon Oct 3, 2025, 8:58 PM

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It's all good, I was just wondering if u actually saw it

snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 12:06 AM

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timber canyon ``0199a808-46f8-4407-bfb0-c3f685ca48e9``

why do you have coderebirthlib installed?

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what the fuck is happening lol

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bitter pecan Oct 4, 2025, 12:08 AM

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snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 12:08 AM

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liquidation being twice is amazing

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i sincerely don't know why it's happening, but that's the cause of error

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snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 12:17 AM

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snow swift why do you have coderebirthlib installed?

found out it's a dep of lunarconfig

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good luck

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i have no idea

patent violet Oct 4, 2025, 12:18 AM

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snow swift

iirc they have another moon renamed to liquidation using lunarconfig

snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 12:48 AM

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patent violet iirc they have another moon renamed to liquidation using lunarconfig

why would you do that

runic canyon Oct 4, 2025, 12:51 AM

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snow swift why do you have coderebirthlib installed?

most prob cuz of LunarConfig, that mod needs to be updated, but the modder is kinda busy atm

timber canyon Oct 4, 2025, 5:09 AM

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Oh my god I missed all of this somehow

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Yeah I renamed custom moon Bilge's display name to Liquidation, and I guess that busted Terminal Formatter's... scrolling somehow???

timber canyon Oct 4, 2025, 5:09 AM

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snow swift why would you do that

Because Liquidation real yoiled

robust drum Oct 4, 2025, 6:22 AM

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What's wrong with having coderebirthlib?

proper badger Oct 4, 2025, 1:53 PM

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[Error : Unity Log] TypeLoadException: Could not load type of field 'TerminalFormatter.Nodes.Simulate+<>c:<>9__2_1' (1) due to: Could not load file or assembly 'LethalLevelLoader, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies.
Stack trace:
System.RuntimeTypeHandle.CanCastTo (System.RuntimeType type, System.RuntimeType target) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0000)
System.RuntimeType.IsAssignableFrom (System.Type c) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0020)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputManager.RegisterCustomTypes (System.Type[] types) (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0022)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputManager.RegisterCustomTypes () (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0064)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputManager.InitializeData () (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_06DB)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputManager.Initialize (UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.IInputRuntime runtime, UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSettings settings) (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_000D)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSystem.InitializeInPlayer (UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.IInputRuntime runtime, UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSettings settings) (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0028)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSystem..cctor () (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_000F)
Rethrow as TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSystem' threw an exception.
UnityEngine.InputSystem.Users.InputUser.GetUnpairedInputDevices (UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputControlList`1[UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputDevice]& list) (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0007)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.Users.InputUser.GetUnpairedInputDevices () (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0009)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.PlayerInput.AssignUserAndDevices () (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0281)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.PlayerInput.OnEnable () (at <7d67996a352a4f4fa0df2b7c9570fda6>:IL_0019)

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new update = )

robust drum Oct 4, 2025, 1:54 PM

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LLL is indeed broken on the new update

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As are most mods

proper badger Oct 4, 2025, 1:54 PM

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I don't have LLL

robust drum Oct 4, 2025, 1:55 PM

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Oh lol

proper badger Oct 4, 2025, 1:55 PM

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I'm just searching what mods broke with the new update

robust drum Oct 4, 2025, 1:55 PM

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TerminalFotmatter might be hard depending on LLL then :p

snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 5:34 PM

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robust drum TerminalFotmatter might be hard depending on LLL then :p

it is not

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if they don't have LLL then it's really surprising

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cause Simulate node only initializes when LLL is present in the chainloader

snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 5:41 PM

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proper badger [Error : Unity Log] TypeLoadException: Could not load type of field 'TerminalFo...

actually, could you send me your modpack code?

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because - I suspect - that LLL dies along the way and Formatter can't call it

proper badger Oct 4, 2025, 5:46 PM

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snow swift actually, could you send me your modpack code?

0199b054-933c-ab53-4026-d78dc76e5a22

robust drum Oct 4, 2025, 5:46 PM

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if you're on v73 then yeah 100% LLL dies

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netcode patcher is dead and fixplugintypes are dead rn mrov

snow swift Oct 4, 2025, 5:47 PM

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that's not good

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do we have any idea about a possible fix

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and/or the ETA? 🥺

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 12:53 AM

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@snow swift Can you update Terminal Formatter to remove LGU as a dependency? When both mods are present right now the game errors on boot and launches vanilla

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 1:10 AM

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I'll change the patches, sure

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how critical is it right now

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 1:10 AM

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snow swift how critical is it right now

Like I said the game won't boot modded cus of the error if TerminalFormatter and LGU exist

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lol

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I had to disable Terminal Formatter

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 1:10 AM

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yummy

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what changed for it to fail suddenly

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 1:11 AM

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I think when Whitespike added the DawnLib dependency

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Idk why

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 1:12 AM

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dawn must do something with either mod then

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I'll try to push the hotfix tomorrow

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it's just a case of changing when the patch runs on my end

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i see

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will be an easy fix

pastel sigil Oct 8, 2025, 3:21 AM

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was about to come here to say the same thing

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 9:17 PM

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@snow swift Terminal Formatter update still releasing today bud?

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:17 PM

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oh i haven't even started working on it lmao

runic canyon Oct 8, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Oof

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:35 PM

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if you could check if this version works, i'd be super grateful

📎 mrov-TerminalFormatter-0.2.30.zip

little elbow Oct 8, 2025, 9:35 PM

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snow swift oh i haven't even started working on it lmao

Isn't it just a recompile with the new netcode patcher, or is there other stuff that needs to be fixed?

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:36 PM

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i had to fix cyclic dependency issues

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and that's it, there's no networking here

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:37 PM

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snow swift if you could check if this version works, i'd be super grateful

@plain mountain

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Will test in just a sec

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 9:41 PM

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snow swift <@165179734194520073>

It works 👍

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:43 PM

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nice

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 9:44 PM

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Oh wait uhhhh

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What happened to the Store node and a bunch of the other nodes?

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LOL

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Only Moons Route Locked and Simulate are here

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KEKW

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:44 PM

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plain mountain What happened to the Store node and a bunch of the other nodes?

wdym

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 9:44 PM

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A bunch of the nodes went missing

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greed

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I noticed the Store was vanilla, checked the config and ☠️

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 9:46 PM

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the fuck

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 10:00 PM

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I'm just as confused lol

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:00 PM

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new version broke soft-dependencies

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god damn it

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 10:01 PM

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Oh yeah

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📎 message.txt

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☠️ Why is it even erroring?

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I have it

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LMAO

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:02 PM

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🙂

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OH NO

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 10:02 PM

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@glass bone They wrote Gullible on StoreRotationConfig

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:02 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

Tenor

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I do gotta update SRC but it doesn't use networking ~~yet~~

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greed

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:03 PM

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it's not your fault!

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it's me 🤭

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soft-deps all died

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:04 PM

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plink

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:04 PM

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and - because the project is very old i'm doing soft-compats in 3 different ways

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they all died

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lmao

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:04 PM

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💀

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:04 PM

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i seriously consider deprecating at this point

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 10:05 PM

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Hamunii has been working on a mod to fix the GetTypes stuff

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But uhhh you could set up your soft deps in the way pacoito does, @glass bone You got that example bud?

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Cus it still works on v73

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Yes but I shall withhold the information beevil

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:07 PM

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glass bone Yes but I shall withhold the information <:beevil:1174730104249798787>

fair enough

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perish

plain mountain Oct 8, 2025, 10:07 PM

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glass bone Yes but I shall withhold the information <:beevil:1174730104249798787>

I can't believe you would torture morv like this

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XD

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:07 PM

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jk it's this

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plink

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:07 PM

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okay

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so it's just separated

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and with the flags?

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:08 PM

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Ye any reference to a soft dependency should be quarantined under a [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.NoInlining | MethodImplOptions.NoOptimization)]

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:09 PM

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lmaoooooooooooooooooo

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the fucking idiot that wrote this

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KILL ME

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:09 PM

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Then said method should only be called if the dependency is found

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:10 PM

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snow swift

If you mean the typo, that's just the LLL assembly lmao 💀

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:10 PM

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glass bone If you mean the typo, that's just the LLL assembly lmao 💀

i know that 🤭

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i'm talking about this:

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glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:11 PM

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plink

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:11 PM

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TURNS OUT that check is completely skipped on the new version

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somehow

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🙂

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:11 PM

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Thonk

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Huh

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:11 PM

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OH WAIT NO

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it's something ELSE?????

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#

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bruh what

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:12 PM

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snow swift

Does LLLCompatibility.Init() have the funny attribute above it

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:13 PM

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not yet 💀

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:13 PM

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Ye that'd do it probably

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plink

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:15 PM

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glass bone Does `LLLCompatibility.Init()` have the funny attribute above it

Might also need it for LLLCompatibility.GetLLLSettings() but not sure

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:16 PM

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it's not even initialized😭

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:17 PM

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snow swift

Oh wait no it's the new Nodes.Simulate()

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Move that inside LLLCompatibility.Init() or something

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plink

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:18 PM

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it is there

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commented out

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:18 PM

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Thonk

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I dunno what's loading it then

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:19 PM

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i don't know what the hell is happening

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:21 PM

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snow swift i don't know what the hell is happening

It do be fixed by https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hamunii/TypeLoadExceptionFixer (most likely)

Thunderstore

TypeLoadExceptionFixer v1.0.0

Fixes issues caused by unloadable types.

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But there should be a fix you can do

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Thonk

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 10:21 PM

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wait am i compiling for the correct version

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lemme check

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i will lose my mind

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 10:27 PM

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💀

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 11:06 PM

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IT WAS FUCKING LINQQQQQQQ

glass bone Oct 8, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Oh 💀

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I do remember someone mentioning that last night lmao

snow swift Oct 8, 2025, 11:20 PM

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the hotfix is being pushed right now

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hopefully not breaking anything else 😇

iron cosmos Oct 9, 2025, 4:27 PM

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snow swift the hotfix is being pushed right now

right now?

snow swift Oct 9, 2025, 4:28 PM

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is it not there

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bruh

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noway

bitter sparrow Oct 17, 2025, 4:43 AM

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@snow swift i am pretty sure this is your fault

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📎 Player.log

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at least it only effects vanilla moons ig

plain mountain Oct 17, 2025, 4:47 AM

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Okay let me correct myself, this is a bug that is fixed in the 0.2.32 build that Mrov had me test, he forgot to push the update

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lol

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@snow swift Goober

snow swift Oct 17, 2025, 1:22 PM

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did I not

snow swift Oct 17, 2025, 2:59 PM

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mb chat

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i've uploaded it now

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kenji stop pregnanting me

kindred raptor Oct 17, 2025, 3:31 PM

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Wow

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Freaky

remote sage Oct 17, 2025, 3:36 PM

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snow swift kenji stop pregnanting me

sorry i can't help it...... i'll stop

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

Tenor

glossy tapir Oct 17, 2025, 3:55 PM

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hey @remote sage

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-# stop playing genshin impact

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321132669001666600/1321134890443477012/mrwiggles.gif

remote sage Oct 17, 2025, 3:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/stare-staring-cat-gif-20275090

Tenor

robust drum Oct 17, 2025, 3:57 PM

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bro's only lvl 59

pastel sigil Oct 17, 2025, 4:06 PM

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not even ar70 yet 💔

runic canyon Oct 18, 2025, 2:02 AM

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Uhm...
I'm getting this

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a weird Rotting to below the Orbiting

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and a line

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yup, this shouldn't be here

kindred raptor Oct 18, 2025, 2:07 AM

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rotting to ass

runic canyon Oct 18, 2025, 2:46 AM

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It is not this mod

ornate forge Oct 18, 2025, 2:47 AM

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She format on my terminal till I

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https://tenor.com/view/lootbug-lethal-company-lethal-company-loot-gif-8383565573298735433

Tenor

runic canyon Oct 18, 2025, 2:50 AM

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reverted the version and the bug is still present

snow swift Oct 18, 2025, 7:02 AM

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runic canyon It is not this mod

at least there's this

pastel sigil Oct 18, 2025, 1:27 PM

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Any potential fix for the weather misalignment other than not using the weather?

snow swift Oct 18, 2025, 1:46 PM

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fuck it's this again

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ummmm

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yeah, I'll make a thingy to solve this issue in next Registry version

ember nimbus Oct 31, 2025, 2:46 PM

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may i ask what does difficulty string length do exactly? if it does what it says, should i put it on 1 to keep things vanilla?

pastel sigil Oct 31, 2025, 3:45 PM

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ember nimbus may i ask what does difficulty string length do exactly? if it does what it says...

it will cut off the + and ++ from some difficulties visually

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and turn Safe into S

ember nimbus Oct 31, 2025, 3:47 PM

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ah ok thx

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it said something about scrap multiplier so i was confused

void ibex Nov 3, 2025, 4:08 PM

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the difficulty string is the moon difficulty rating. the length config enables you to make it longer or shorter. vanilla is 4 afaik (maybe 3?), not 1.

short inlet Nov 7, 2025, 9:51 PM

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📎 message.txt

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this happens when i try to scroll

snow swift Nov 7, 2025, 11:52 PM

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oh so everything dependent on mrovlib died

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fucking amazing

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will fix asap

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 3:20 PM

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short inlet

could you send me your modpack code?

short inlet Nov 8, 2025, 3:20 PM

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snow swift could you send me your modpack code?

this actually happened while testing it, so i had to remove it

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BUT

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im giving you the modpack still

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019a640f-0f36-ad43-76b3-87b8c9656112

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 3:34 PM

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i cannot reproduce it 😳

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if it happens again, please send me the whole log 🥺

plain mountain Nov 8, 2025, 3:35 PM

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I've had no problems as well

short inlet Nov 8, 2025, 3:37 PM

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snow swift if it happens again, please send me the whole log 🥺

yeah ill try to replicate it today

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263331414271594538/1436082343432421436/twitter_1986501881288429871.gif

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 3:37 PM

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alrighty!

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also i found an issue when dawnlib is present, but i cannot get to the root of it today

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the moon catalogue just doesn't load lol

plain mountain Nov 8, 2025, 3:44 PM

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snow swift the moon catalogue just doesn't load lol

Wait what? It works for me though

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 3:44 PM

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amazing

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does it load terminalformatter's one or vanilla one?

plain mountain Nov 8, 2025, 3:46 PM

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TerminalFormatter's I've been using it, is it only broken with DawnLib though? Cus I have both DawnLib and LLL in my pack 🤔

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If it's a thing when you have DawnLib only I can see that happening lol

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 3:47 PM

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plain mountain If it's a thing when you have DawnLib only I can see that happening lol

i had TerminalFormatter, Dawnlib, LLL and LLLU enabled Think

plain mountain Nov 8, 2025, 3:47 PM

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Weird

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 3:47 PM

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yeah

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i'm not digging further for now, but i'll check in some time if it's reproducible for me

plain mountain Nov 8, 2025, 3:48 PM

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Yeah it could be some edge case oddity

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Cus uhh yeah it just works on my pack plink

little elbow Nov 8, 2025, 4:09 PM

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Both works for me in my pack

short inlet Nov 8, 2025, 4:13 PM

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snow swift if it happens again, please send me the whole log 🥺

okay so now it works for some reason?????????????????

snow swift Nov 8, 2025, 4:14 PM

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insanity

kindred raptor Nov 8, 2025, 4:14 PM

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Remastered

pliant steeple Nov 13, 2025, 6:06 AM

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the mod for me just isnt working 😭

📎 message.txt

hybrid violet Nov 23, 2025, 3:00 PM

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snow swift i'm not digging further for now, but i'll check in some time if it's reproducibl...

I'm running into the same problem with DawnLib, LLL and TerminalFormatter
The moon menu is still vanilla but others are working
Modpack code : 019ab0b8-a4aa-087f-dae8-093341077b97

I've opened an issue on DawnLib side but i'm not sure that it's the true culprit here.

GitHub

DawnLib seems to overwrite the moon menu in terminal · Issue #30 ...

When used along LethalLevelLoader, the customized menu for the "moon" command of TerminalFormatter is not working. When DawnLib or LLL is disabled : When DawnLib and LLL are enabled : The...

plain mountain Nov 23, 2025, 8:07 PM

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hybrid violet I'm running into the same problem with DawnLib, LLL and TerminalFormatter The mo...

I have no idea why this happens cus it works fine for me

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Do you have TypeLoadExceptionFixer? I can only assume that is what might fix it if you add it

hybrid violet Nov 23, 2025, 8:18 PM

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plain mountain Do you have TypeLoadExceptionFixer? I can only assume that is what might fix it ...

I tried to add it but this doesn't fix the issue

plain mountain Nov 23, 2025, 8:20 PM

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That is so odd

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It works fine on my end and I have no idea why

hybrid violet Nov 23, 2025, 8:22 PM

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I'll ask some friends to try reproducing the issue

plain mountain Nov 23, 2025, 8:42 PM

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Mrov himself also reprod it I have no idea why it works okay for me

plain mountain Nov 23, 2025, 8:42 PM

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hybrid violet I'll ask some friends to try reproducing the issue

try regening your LLL and TerminalFormatter configs?

hybrid violet Nov 27, 2025, 6:08 PM

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plain mountain try regening your LLL and TerminalFormatter configs?

Yes, but sadly, it doesn't seem to fix the issue

formal depot Dec 26, 2025, 3:22 PM

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hello, is this related to terminal formater?
No crash, but this shows up in my console when i use the terminal.

snow swift Dec 26, 2025, 4:47 PM

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there's no logs from terminalformatter

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and it's not in the stacktrace

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soo I heavily doubt it

formal depot Dec 27, 2025, 12:36 AM

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after adding multiple optimization and fix mods, it fixed itself so nevermind that

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but one small thing is that i set lines to scroll to 1 and while shop does scroll really slow now, planets still scroll Way too fast. (probably due to amount of them i added, but still)

marsh bramble Jan 9, 2026, 10:08 AM

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terminal formatter seems to mess with the locked? setting for moons

bitter sparrow Jan 9, 2026, 10:09 AM

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cant you just individually unlock all locked moons from it? im not saying this shouldnt be fixed but you can probably just do that

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or is it not just unlock all

marsh bramble Jan 9, 2026, 11:21 AM

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bitter sparrow or is it not just unlock all

yeah

robust drum Jan 11, 2026, 6:23 PM

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Just making sure but you didn't forget did you @snow swift perceive

snow swift Jan 11, 2026, 6:24 PM

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i did not in fact forget

glossy tapir Jan 11, 2026, 6:25 PM

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snow swift i did not in fact forget

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-wrong-person-forget-i-said-that-forget-it-last-night-gif-4828677

Tenor

lime viper Jan 11, 2026, 11:20 PM

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Is there a way to display the cost and weather but not the risk level?

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 10:00 AM

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there is a toggle in the settings for that

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ShowDifficultyInAll

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 1:11 PM

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marsh bramble

could you test if this release fixes that issue?

📎 mrov-TerminalFormatter-0.2.32.zip

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 1:11 PM

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snow swift could you test if this release fixes that issue?

sure i will test it in a sec

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 1:23 PM

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snow swift could you test if this release fixes that issue?

still locked plink

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 2:35 PM

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hmm

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are you talking about the moon catalogue or the routing nodes?

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 5:53 PM

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marsh bramble still locked <:plink:1308332227318255696>

alright, i honestly don't know what's the exact issue that you're experiencing - could you give me more details about your issue? what's the expected behaviour, what's the steps to reproduce?

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and - preferably - your modpack code as well 😅

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 7:24 PM

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snow swift alright, i honestly don't know what's the exact issue that you're experiencing -...

Modpack Code: 019bb3a5-bbd1-c8ea-c9b3-9e16bbd93807
I have Is Locked? set to false for all of wesleys moons, which used to allow me to route to them despite not having them unlocked.
Problem: The moons are still locked
Steps to reproduce: make a new save. Type in any of wesleys moons and it will say the route is locked.

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 7:33 PM

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hmm alright

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oh it works for me wtf

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 7:47 PM

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marsh bramble Modpack Code: 019bb3a5-bbd1-c8ea-c9b3-9e16bbd93807 I have Is Locked? set to fals...

glossy tapir Jan 12, 2026, 7:52 PM

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marsh bramble Modpack Code: 019bb3a5-bbd1-c8ea-c9b3-9e16bbd93807 I have Is Locked? set to fals...

I remember having Cordillera still being on the list despite it being on "Is Hidden? ON"
but that's an issue for other thread as it was also w/o TF

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 7:53 PM

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snow swift

odd

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well i guess you fixed it then

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 7:53 PM

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oh that is just your code imported

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i didn't add or remove a single thing

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i've tried a few wesley moons and it routed without issues 💀

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 7:54 PM

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wait is locked moons in wesley true?

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because i might have disabled it again

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 7:54 PM

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this one?

glossy tapir Jan 12, 2026, 7:54 PM

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oh yeah uhhh
do you have progression enabled?

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 7:54 PM

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ye it should be on

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 7:54 PM

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alr

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reloading

glossy tapir Jan 12, 2026, 7:55 PM

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it shouldn't if you don't want the moons to be locked

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 7:55 PM

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well i want the progression features without unlocking them

glossy tapir Jan 12, 2026, 7:55 PM

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oh I see what you mean

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-# I guess

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 7:56 PM

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which used to work so i thought lunar changed something

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but then i was told it is due to terminal formatter

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 7:57 PM

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oh i see the issue now wtf

glossy tapir Jan 12, 2026, 7:57 PM

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I don't think TF has influence on locking the moons
but I might be mistaken

snow swift Jan 12, 2026, 8:02 PM

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alrighty i have no idea what's happening since it should be unlocked

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i'll investigate further tomorrow

glossy tapir Jan 12, 2026, 8:05 PM

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goodnight mrov

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 8:13 PM

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snow swift alrighty i have no idea what's happening since *it should be* unlocked

might be on dawn/lunar because i dont remember this being a problem before lunar moved over but idk

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and thanks for looking into it

kindred raptor Jan 12, 2026, 8:23 PM

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marsh bramble Modpack Code: 019bb3a5-bbd1-c8ea-c9b3-9e16bbd93807 I have Is Locked? set to fals...

Wouldnt it be better to just disable progression in wesleys own config instead of lunar

kindred raptor Jan 12, 2026, 8:23 PM

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marsh bramble well i want the progression features without unlocking them

Ooooh

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Well thst might be the issue then

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Ive heard those configs dont go well together

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Hey morv have you found a fix for Oxyde showing on the terminal even if its locked?

marsh bramble Jan 12, 2026, 8:29 PM

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kindred raptor Wouldnt it be better to just disable progression in wesleys own config instead o...

yeah it is not a big thing i just always do that for the ones i already unlocked

lime viper Jan 13, 2026, 1:24 AM

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snow swift there is a toggle in the settings for that

Thank you! Turns out I had that unchecked but it's just incompatible with LethalMoonUnlocks 🤧

snow swift Jan 13, 2026, 2:52 AM

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🥲

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 1:33 PM

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kindred raptor Hey morv have you found a fix for Oxyde showing on the terminal even if its lock...

i think i did

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at this point i've spent a few days trying to look into this issue and i have no idea what's really happening

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 1:35 PM

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:( well lets hope it has been fixed

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 1:45 PM

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i was debugging this shit with debugs disabled

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lord give me strength cause i hate this so mucj

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 1:46 PM

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🙏

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 1:48 PM

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oh now the LLL text just pops up

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dear god, let me work on weathers again

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 1:49 PM

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snow swift dear god, let me work on weathers again

You know its bad when you wanna work in weathers 😭

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You can do it!!! I believe

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 1:49 PM

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tbf i really want to finish that update

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and the terminal fix was supposed to be a copy-paste

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 1:50 PM

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Oof

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Stay strong

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 1:50 PM

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moon list doesn't display locked/hidden moons, which is good

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but i still can't route to them

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 1:51 PM

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Oooh even if they stop being locked you cant route?

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And you cant route to hidden moons either?

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 1:51 PM

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kindred raptor And you cant route to hidden moons either?

that is a good question

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i'll check

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LLL overrides it

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lmao

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 7:23 PM

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marsh bramble and thanks for looking into it

Hey, could you check if this version works?

📎 mrov-TerminalFormatter-0.2.33-dev.1.zip

marsh bramble Jan 16, 2026, 8:39 PM

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snow swift Hey, could you check if *this version* works?

sure i will check it later

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 10:21 PM

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HI MORV

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SO

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tested with oxyde

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it doesnt show in the moon catalogue when its locked

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you can still type oxyde and it will appear if you wanna confirm or deny

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if you confirm it says coordinatesnot found

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i think thats the intended behaviour

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thing is

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after unlocking it, it still doesnt appear in the moons

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but you can route to it

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hmmmm

marsh bramble Jan 16, 2026, 10:27 PM

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snow swift Hey, could you check if *this version* works?

you fixed it now for me

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 10:30 PM

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not for me :c

robust drum Jan 16, 2026, 10:45 PM

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kindred raptor hmmmm

asteroid 13? lmao

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 10:51 PM

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WHAT

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 11:36 PM

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marsh bramble you fixed it now for me

yippee 😇

snow swift Jan 16, 2026, 11:46 PM

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kindred raptor after unlocking it, it still doesnt appear in the moons

oh bwaaah

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that is not great

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cause it is supposed to check the status every time you interact with the page 🤔

kindred raptor Jan 16, 2026, 11:57 PM

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Yeee :(

snow swift Jan 17, 2026, 12:04 AM

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could you send me your modpack code? i'll dig into that bullshit later

kindred raptor Jan 17, 2026, 12:05 AM

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Oof, will have to be on sunday, im not home soo

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Sorry

snow swift Jan 17, 2026, 12:06 AM

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even better

kindred raptor Jan 17, 2026, 12:06 AM

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XD

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Time for weathers hehe

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Gotta outlast the weathers

glossy tapir Jan 17, 2026, 12:22 AM

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@snow swift hi

kindred raptor Jan 17, 2026, 12:34 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-gif-17505087808200651811

Tenor

snow swift Jan 18, 2026, 9:42 PM

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TerminalFormatter 0.2.33

(hopefully) fixed issues relating to incompatibilities with DawnLib and LLL being present together

kindred raptor Jan 18, 2026, 9:43 PM

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Omg i still cant send my code im sorry

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I should be able today later, but youll prob be sleeping haha

robust drum Jan 18, 2026, 9:49 PM

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WOW cheese

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you HATE this mod

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and PURPOSEFULLY delayed its development

kindred raptor Jan 18, 2026, 10:32 PM

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You wish

snow swift Jan 18, 2026, 10:49 PM

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kindred raptor You wish

hey

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😠

kindred raptor Jan 18, 2026, 10:49 PM

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I meant xu would pray for me to do it

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But i could never!!

plain mountain Jan 18, 2026, 11:00 PM

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snow swift # TerminalFormatter 0.2.33 - (hopefully) fixed issues relating to incompatibili...

Maybe this will also fix the annoying ship lag it was causing us as well lol

robust drum Jan 18, 2026, 11:01 PM

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those changes would be unrelated to whatever placebo you were havin

plain mountain Jan 18, 2026, 11:01 PM

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Twas not Placebo but okay

snow swift Jan 18, 2026, 11:01 PM

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plain mountain Maybe this will also fix the annoying ship lag it was causing us as well lol

was it tho

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did you verify and confirmed without any doubt that was just terminalformatter?

plain mountain Jan 18, 2026, 11:02 PM

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Yeah we got some odd lag after readding it in recent sessions, I think some weird compatibility thing with OpenBodyCams or TwoRadarMaps or smth

snow swift Jan 18, 2026, 11:02 PM

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hmm

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that's the first i hear of it

plain mountain Jan 18, 2026, 11:02 PM

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Cus one of the games that had lag was when the Body Cam was on, even when I wasn't on the ship

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Was weird

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lol

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It could have also been smth that updated, I need to do more in depth checking of stuff in the pack when my burnout subsides

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I'm taking a break for at least 2 weeks

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I need it

kindred raptor Jan 19, 2026, 2:34 AM

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do i still send the code? or should i test if its still happening

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also i dont see the update on ts

snow swift Jan 19, 2026, 2:49 AM

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oh it didn't publish ffs

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it's coming up

kindred raptor Jan 19, 2026, 2:50 AM

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Lol

steep lagoon Jan 29, 2026, 2:24 AM

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It seems I can't simulate asteroid-13 from wesley's moons. Names I tried were asteroid13 and asteroid-13, though...

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...if I try asteroid or asteroid 13... well...

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This error pops up

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019c0792-1247-f2dc-448e-dc1428f5b08e

Code if ye wanna give it a try. Contains 27 mods

robust drum Jan 29, 2026, 2:28 AM

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Yeah simulating asteroid 13s been broken for a while with TF

steep lagoon Jan 29, 2026, 2:28 AM

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ah

snow swift Jan 29, 2026, 12:11 PM

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robust drum Yeah simulating asteroid 13s been broken for a while with TF

that's good to know

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I'll check what's up

steep lagoon Jan 29, 2026, 7:49 PM

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Speaking of simulate, can there be a way to simulate only the moon that you're currently orbiting? Something like... an example... simulatecurrent which will simulate the moon that you're actually orbiting around

ashen pier Jan 29, 2026, 7:49 PM

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snow swift I'll check what's up

it's the issue I DM'd you about 👍

steep lagoon Jan 29, 2026, 7:49 PM

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Unless that's not possible to do

snow swift Jan 29, 2026, 8:19 PM

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ashen pier it's the issue I DM'd you about 👍

oh umm when

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OH I SEE FUCK

ashen pier Jan 29, 2026, 8:20 PM

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yeah lol

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like a weekish ago

snow swift Jan 29, 2026, 8:40 PM

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oh

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"I'll do it after registry" was my to go mental note since December lmao

void ibex Jan 30, 2026, 11:48 AM

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steep lagoon Speaking of simulate, can there be a way to simulate only the moon that you're c...

or just "simulate" without any moon name xD

robust drum Jan 30, 2026, 11:49 AM

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steep lagoon Speaking of simulate, can there be a way to simulate only the moon that you're c...

isnt simulate an LLL feature?

kindred raptor Jan 30, 2026, 12:24 PM

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Yess

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Yyyeesddddd

steep lagoon Jan 30, 2026, 10:46 PM

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robust drum isnt simulate an LLL feature?

huh... then... why does it break with Terminal Formatter?

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Without Terminal Formatter, now it works

steep lagoon Jan 30, 2026, 10:47 PM

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void ibex or just "simulate" without any moon name xD

Yea, that can work... though prob will have to suggest it to LLL

plain mountain Jan 30, 2026, 10:47 PM

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Terminal Formatter replaces the Simulate node

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You can turn off it doing that in it's config

steep lagoon Jan 30, 2026, 10:49 PM

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I see

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 10:55 PM

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steep lagoon huh... then... why does it break with Terminal Formatter?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

Tenor

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Whar

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What's it replacin it with

steep lagoon Jan 30, 2026, 10:59 PM

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Terminal Formatter with it's own simulate shows the percentage as well as the weight values, while with LLL's simulate... only the percentage shows

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:00 PM

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Oh

steep lagoon Jan 30, 2026, 11:00 PM

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...and some moons like Asteroid-13 if you were to simulate it with TF... you get a nice error

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:15 PM

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steep lagoon Without Terminal Formatter, now it works

in the message you've sent (#1213797469192855553 message) it says that the issue is in GetNumberlessPlanetName

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so yes, simulate is LLL thing

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but TerminalFormatter reformats it, hitting that error

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:16 PM

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glass bone What's it replacin it with

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalTerminalFormatter/blob/main/TerminalFormatter/Nodes/Simulate.cs

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:16 PM

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Ye just saw it

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:19 PM

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i don't really know why it's doing that

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will try to test it

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mhm

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fucking faaaaantastic

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:42 PM

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Oh plink

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:42 PM

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so numbered planets' simulate node events don't have the numbers 🙂

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so nice

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:43 PM

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snow swift so numbered planets' simulate node events don't have the numbers 🙂

Oh wha in ExtendedLevel?

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Or uh from LLL's side rather

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:47 PM

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LLL creates simulate nodes that have terminalEvent field set up to the planet's name (sanitized)

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and, umm

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asteroid13's node is just asteroid

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:47 PM

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Ye I can change that

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:47 PM

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plink

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:47 PM

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It'd conflict with like Asteroid-14 for instance

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:48 PM

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i guess so

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:48 PM

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glass bone It'd conflict with like Asteroid-14 for instance

Hyve formerly known as Asteroid-14

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:48 PM

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question is: what was the decision that led to that being the way it is?

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do events go insane with numbers inside?

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was it too complicated to get starting numbers but not ending ones in names?

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god only knows

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:49 PM

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I do not possess an answer plink

snow swift Jan 30, 2026, 11:49 PM

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and ig batby as well

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but i shall not awaken the titan

glass bone Jan 30, 2026, 11:49 PM

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snow swift do events go insane with numbers inside?

Guess I'll find out greed

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:06 AM

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@glass bone i am ashamed to admit that this little snippet of dogshit code fixed it:

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i should probably cache the keyword array

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so it's only gonna be bad

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:07 AM

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Lol

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:09 AM

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so the hack i've figured out is: the order of levels in StartOfRound is the same as in CompatibleNouns for simulate keyword

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so i just compare the indexes lmaooooo

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it's so fucking bad

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:09 AM

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Throw in a DawnLib moon beevil

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:09 AM

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are there any? 😳

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i genuinely don't know

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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A few ye

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This one for instance: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Pineguys/Fluffyland

Thunderstore

Fluffyland v0.0.1

[v73] Oogle...? Oogle! A New Custom Moon (With Achievements!)

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plink

bitter sparrow Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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wtf

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when did this come out

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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an hour ago???

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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Lmao

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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oh

bitter sparrow Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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oh ok

kindred raptor Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 AM

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Ye

iron cosmos Jan 31, 2026, 12:11 AM

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xD

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:11 AM

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snow swift are there any? 😳

But yeah Forsaken here too: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lilac_Luna/Lunas_Moons

Thunderstore

Lunas Moons v0.1.2

Moons Made By LilacLuna

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Also Oxyde plink

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:11 AM

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with all due respect

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i am not installing code rebirth to test that

bitter sparrow Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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W mrov

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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snow swift i am not installing code rebirth to test that

Don't have to test Oxyde I just threw it in as a DawnLib moon, for it is one plink

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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oh wait i had it installed the whole time

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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💀

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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for testing new registry

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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Oh lol

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:12 AM

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huh

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:13 AM

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snow swift i am not installing code rebirth to test that

I guess you are not installing Code Rebirth

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For it is already present greed

bitter sparrow Jan 31, 2026, 12:13 AM

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virus

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:15 AM

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they're last

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so ig they're not gonna mess up the order

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for now

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:15 AM

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Oh weird I was expecting them to be first plink

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:16 AM

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if that changes every launch i'm gonna kill someone

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at the same time

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i don't really care anymore

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 12:16 AM

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No I just know it registers stuff earlier than LLL

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plink

snow swift Jan 31, 2026, 12:17 AM

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maybe it adds it to vanilla lists later tho?

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i don't know

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0.2.34

fixed an issue with Simulate node not working with levels ending with a number (thanks, @steep lagoon !)

glossy tapir Jan 31, 2026, 12:30 AM

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snow swift # 0.2.34 - fixed an issue with `Simulate` node not working with levels ending w...

Do we know if simulate fissionc would work, or is it just with "-number" endings?

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I'm stupid I haven't checked that myself

ashen pier Jan 31, 2026, 1:50 AM

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snow swift # 0.2.34 - fixed an issue with `Simulate` node not working with levels ending w...

~~did you fix the issue with phobos / deimos too?~~

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looks like ya did

opal solar Jan 31, 2026, 4:10 AM

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glass bone But yeah Forsaken here too: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lilac_Lun...

... this is why we use thumbnails that indicate what a mod is. i had ZERO clue this even existed.

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 4:10 AM

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plink

opal solar Jan 31, 2026, 4:11 AM

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yes i know it aint required, but i like to be aware of what moons are available

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 4:12 AM

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opal solar yes i know it aint required, but i like to be aware of what moons are available

It's this thread if you're wonderin: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1263283058266603644

robust drum Jan 31, 2026, 4:12 AM

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thats the funny thing, it has one of the best visual looking moons out there too lol

glass bone Jan 31, 2026, 4:12 AM

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Ye

opal solar Jan 31, 2026, 4:13 AM

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thekidneystone

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jfc...

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excuse me while i boot up Paint.NET

opal solar Jan 31, 2026, 4:46 AM

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im not late, you're late

rich storm Feb 1, 2026, 7:49 AM

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snow swift and ig batby as well

i think moons we're being dumb with some chars incompatible with es3 so i just got in the habit of using the super stripped name in a few places

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i probably over did it in that context

snow swift Feb 1, 2026, 7:50 AM

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might be

rich storm Feb 1, 2026, 7:50 AM

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its also possible this was genuinely implemented before moons had numbers in their name

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lmao

glass bone Feb 1, 2026, 7:53 AM

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Asteroid-13 do be a pretty old one though

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~~I recall button not being synced (when it was using LethalExpansion) and everyone in the lobby having to press it~~

burnt mirage Feb 3, 2026, 8:14 PM

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Terminal formatter doesnt display the correct price of items when I change them with lunarconfig (the vanilla items like pro flash, lockpicker)

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Price 25, total 15 AnimatedPlink

plain mountain Feb 3, 2026, 8:17 PM

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burnt mirage Terminal formatter doesnt display the correct price of items when I change them ...

This is known iirc, should work with StorePlus though in darmuh’s mod

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Should, I’ve seen a couple cases where at least one thing from DawnLib needs to be in the store for it to properly show the price change

snow swift Feb 3, 2026, 8:23 PM

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burnt mirage Terminal formatter doesnt display the correct price of items when I change them ...

oh yeah, I think I know why

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I'll try to get that sorted soonish

kindred raptor Feb 3, 2026, 8:25 PM

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After registry update :3 hehehehe

snow swift Feb 3, 2026, 8:27 PM

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technically registry update is fully done

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I'm waiting for 2 confirmations and I need to write docs

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and that's all

kindred raptor Feb 3, 2026, 8:30 PM

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Amazing!!

plain mountain Feb 3, 2026, 8:33 PM

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I prolly should have been ballsy and tested Experimental the last time we played but I was too worried about prioritizing keeping the pack stable at the time and Experimental mods scary peepoCoffeeShake

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But I may run some off stream tests with it, would allow me to migrate configs too

snow swift Feb 3, 2026, 8:34 PM

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i'm about to release (hopefully) the final release candidate version, which should be stable enough

plain mountain Feb 3, 2026, 8:34 PM

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Neat

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I will say I haven’t seen you be bombarded with bug reports so seems like it’s been good so far

glass bone Feb 3, 2026, 8:37 PM

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plain mountain I prolly should have been ballsy and tested Experimental the last time we played...

I, too, was spooked by the EVILWeatherRegistry name

kindred raptor Feb 3, 2026, 8:37 PM

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snow swift i'm about to release (hopefully) the final release candidate version, which *sho...

Whats the state of like uhmm weather mods like le and lw??

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Will they die??

snow swift Feb 3, 2026, 8:38 PM

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i know that paco did a fix for LE, and ziggy was testing it from the beginning, so i'm confident to say that both are ready to go

kindred raptor Feb 3, 2026, 8:40 PM

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Yayyy

snow swift Feb 3, 2026, 8:41 PM

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it's been uploaded

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now the only thing remaining is docs

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oh no

formal depot Mar 2, 2026, 1:03 AM

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hey
This option works for shop but does not seem to work for moon list.
Scrolling moons just goes like 15 lines always

formal depot Mar 3, 2026, 2:05 AM

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turns out the problem is on LLL end, but terminal formatter should be overriding it though.

pastel sigil Mar 4, 2026, 3:42 AM

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HOw 'in depth' is the difficulty sorting? out of curiosity? Or is this LLL's difficulty sorting?

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Is it just simple D tier to S tier sorting with no regards to anything else?

rich storm Mar 4, 2026, 3:43 AM

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(In general any implementation of dynamic difficulty calculation can't be super in depth as level design & fog zones plays a massive part which can't be accessed without the level being loaded)

robust drum Mar 4, 2026, 3:50 AM

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rich storm (In general any implementation of dynamic difficulty calculation can't be super ...

storing this data in Editor is totally possible (but also so much work i don't care for) beevil

rich storm Mar 4, 2026, 3:50 AM

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kinda ish yeah

pastel sigil Mar 4, 2026, 3:52 AM

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pastel sigil Is it just simple D tier to S tier sorting with no regards to anything else?

Ah yeah I get that, what I mean specifically is the order in the terminal moon listings, I made a small mod to group together moons and unlock them by quotas completed. After that, I went back and set it up so the prices of the moons in previous unlocked groups have their prices cut by a set percentage, but when messing with 100% discount (so free), the order of the moons went pretty messy

(personally) Intended and in order, when sorted by pricing:

Experimentation, D Grade, 10 Credits
Vow, D+, 20
Adamance, D++, 30
Moon4, C, 50
Moon5, C+, 70
Moon6, C++, 90

When all prices are 0, still sorted by pricing:

Adamance, D++, 0
Experimentation, D, 0
Vow, D+, 0
Moon5, C+, 0
Moon4, C, 0
Moon6, C++, 0

As for difficulty sorting, I forgot off the top of my head but I know its way more of a mess when using C, C+, C++ grades

pastel sigil Mar 4, 2026, 3:59 AM

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pastel sigil Ah yeah I get that, what I mean specifically is the order in the terminal moon l...

Of course, i can circumvent this completely if i use anything other than a 100% discount as long as all the moon prices are different

snow swift Mar 4, 2026, 5:54 AM

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pastel sigil HOw 'in depth' is the difficulty sorting? out of curiosity? Or is this LLL's dif...

I'm using LLL sorting

void ibex Mar 13, 2026, 12:38 AM

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pastel sigil Ah yeah I get that, what I mean specifically is the order in the terminal moon l...

when its letters like that, its still sorted by a number.

its like all moons are given a number, and when they get displayed, it translates the number to a "tier", that tier is what you see.. (in LLL's sorting), but moon makers can also just set their own rating of their moon, which i think borks the difficulty order, but i d k... havent used LLL sorting by difficulty in over a year.. x.x been using my own mod for setting difficulties and sorting them and it overwrites ALL moon ratings with my own system.. so i bypass that issue x.x (i replicate similar to what LLL does, just apply it to all moons...)

maybe LLL just needs to have a toggle to enable their rating for ALL modded moons? (not vanilla as LLL use vanilla as a baseline =p).

pastel sigil Mar 13, 2026, 1:45 AM

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void ibex when its letters like that, its still sorted by a number. its like all moons ar...

what mod may this be per say ...... if i dare ask

void ibex Mar 13, 2026, 7:13 AM

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pastel sigil what mod may this be per say ...... if i dare ask

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/VirusTLNR/DynamicMoonRatings/

also uses the same numbering system, but my scale is different, so will lead to different ratings, but the ratings should be in the correct order when sorted by difficulty, if they still arent in the right order for you, then let me know.. because I would have noticed i think before meaning maybe you have some other issue than LLL (as im replicating LLL's system other than the moon maker's moon ratings being overwritten)

after re-reading what i wrote originally above.. i should probably "remove" the LLL ratings setting in my mod, and instead have an "LLL" mode, that just overwrites all moons with LLL's own process and ignores my process.. but i didnt think of that when i created it.. lol, maybe ill do that in a future update (whenever that is... x.x)

pastel sigil Mar 13, 2026, 10:51 AM

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Will certaintly give this a shot when i return to dealing with terminal moon stuff

placid shadow Apr 10, 2026, 5:29 PM

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@snow swift when quickly typing commands between each other, sometimes it gets cut off

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this happens to me way too often, the first letter or 2 just get cutoff, like here you can see the "c" got printed next to pro-flashlight

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and i would have to retype the command

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you can see here as well

snow swift Apr 10, 2026, 6:07 PM

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oh, interesting

placid shadow Apr 10, 2026, 6:14 PM

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snow swift oh, interesting

they tell me im a fast typer but i didnt know im that fast

snow swift Apr 10, 2026, 8:38 PM

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lol

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I don't know why it's happening tbh

placid shadow Apr 10, 2026, 9:21 PM

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snow swift I don't know why it's happening tbh

it just happens when i type a command right after the other without waiting after pressing enter

opal solar Apr 10, 2026, 10:07 PM

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been that way for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG while. i dont even consider it an issue

placid shadow Apr 10, 2026, 11:32 PM

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except it is

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i did get used to it for a bit as well but it gets annoying

snow swift Apr 10, 2026, 11:34 PM

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i'll see what i can do when i'm around to work on this mod

little elbow Apr 12, 2026, 1:45 PM

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@snow swift I was getting some errors with the terminal using this in v81

iron cosmos Apr 17, 2026, 9:45 PM

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Detailed scan page shows easter egg after explode

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maybe presents too after open

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im gonna test

iron cosmos Apr 17, 2026, 11:41 PM

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plucky bane Apr 18, 2026, 5:00 PM

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TerminalFormatter changing of look of the Simulate command page is incompatible with some part of DawnLib. When I have it enabled in the config the command doesn't run (at stays typed out in the terminal and doesn't do anything) and I get this error:

Parameter name: index
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0009)
TerminalFormatter.Nodes.Simulate.GetTheFuckingLevelFromSimulateNode (TerminalNode node) (at ./Nodes/Simulate.cs:89)
TerminalFormatter.Nodes.Simulate.GetNodeText (TerminalNode node, Terminal terminal) (at ./Nodes/Simulate.cs:26)
TerminalFormatter.TerminalPatches.LoadNewTerminalFormatterNode (Terminal __instance, TerminalNode node) (at ./TerminalPatches/ReplaceText.cs:59)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMD<Terminal::LoadNewNode>(Terminal,TerminalNode)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?1292945428(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Dawn.TerminalCommandRegistration.AssignNodeProperDisplayText (On.Terminal+orig_LoadNewNode orig, Terminal self, TerminalNode node) (at ./src/API/TerminalCommands/.TerminalCommandRegistration.cs:58)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?-852938900(Terminal,TerminalNode)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?535805192(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Dawn.TerminalCommandRegistration.HandleQueryEventAndContinueCondition (On.Terminal+orig_LoadNewNode orig, Terminal self, TerminalNode node) (at ./src/API/TerminalCommands/.TerminalCommandRegistration.cs:357)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?1557790592(Terminal,TerminalNode)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?-590477538(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Dawn.Internal.TerminalPatches.UpdateItemPrices (On.Terminal+orig_LoadNewNode orig, Terminal self, TerminalNode node) (at ./src/Internal/Patches/TerminalPatches.cs:29)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<Terminal::LoadNewNode>?948502776(Terminal,TerminalNode)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMD<Terminal::OnSubmit>(Terminal)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0049)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.SendOnEndEdit () (at <34a16a0b0f624a15b30cd8fbba9e4e1e>:IL_000E)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at <34a16a0b0f624a15b30cd8fbba9e4e1e>:IL_001B)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at <34a16a0b0f624a15b30cd8fbba9e4e1e>:IL_00B0)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.OnUpdateSelected (UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <34a16a0b0f624a15b30cd8fbba9e4e1e>:IL_007C)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IUpdateSelectedHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <3af4be95fc4a4bad89fc96a2319eb4a6>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction`1[T1] functor) (at <3af4be95fc4a4bad89fc96a2319eb4a6>:IL_0067)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:Update()```
I asked in the DawnLib thread and it sounds like its this mods fault

iron cosmos Apr 18, 2026, 5:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-the-company-valuable-asset-landmine-explosion-gif-16895994890991032639

Tenor

snow swift Apr 18, 2026, 7:05 PM

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plucky bane TerminalFormatter changing of look of the Simulate command page is incompatible ...

Thanks for the log, I'll get that fixed as soon as I can

iron cosmos Apr 18, 2026, 7:27 PM

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iron cosmos Detailed scan page shows easter egg after explode

This one too if you could fix

snow swift Apr 19, 2026, 7:02 PM

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oh god this project is a mess

placid shadow Apr 20, 2026, 2:18 AM

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placid shadow you can see here as well

This one too

snow swift Apr 20, 2026, 5:28 AM

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placid shadow This one too

that one might be a little more challenging, but I have it saved

glossy tapir Apr 20, 2026, 7:12 AM

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People still type confirm instead of c? stare

iron cosmos Apr 20, 2026, 8:16 AM

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i just type c

ionic summit Apr 21, 2026, 7:31 AM

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Biggest problem I'm seeing is not being able to remove moon tag filters when terminal formatter is used in tandem with DawnLib and LLL, actually just makes the catalogue unuseable until the game is restarted.

snow swift Apr 21, 2026, 9:06 AM

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really? does filter none not work? 😭

snow swift Apr 21, 2026, 12:19 PM

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how in the hell

snow swift Apr 21, 2026, 7:14 PM

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TerminalFormatter 0.2.35

updated the mod to work with v80 of Lethal Company
removed compatibility with LethalQuantities
removed compatibility with AdvancedCompany
updated soft-compatibility modules for parity between them

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this update should fix all terminal errors and LLL/DawnLib issues the mod was having since the v80 update

iron cosmos Apr 21, 2026, 7:16 PM

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are you going to release this update today?

snow swift Apr 21, 2026, 7:17 PM

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oh the upload failed

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lol

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fixing rn

glossy tapir Apr 21, 2026, 7:24 PM

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snow swift oh the upload failed

mrovware strikes again PikaHoldIN

snow swift Apr 21, 2026, 7:51 PM

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okay it's up now

ionic summit Apr 21, 2026, 8:07 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255309655685468210/1495220152869060719/goldbaralarm.gif

placid shadow Apr 22, 2026, 12:14 AM

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placid shadow you can see here as well

Hey just wanna ask was this fixed in the latest update?

iron cosmos Apr 22, 2026, 12:16 AM

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xD

pastel sigil Apr 22, 2026, 2:01 AM

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placid shadow Hey just wanna ask was this fixed in the latest update?

Fix: Type slower

snow swift Apr 22, 2026, 2:37 PM

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placid shadow Hey just wanna ask was this fixed in the latest update?

no, not yet

iron cosmos Apr 24, 2026, 10:36 AM

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That problem with easter egg and gifts wasn't fixed.

snow swift Apr 24, 2026, 11:07 AM

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i know - i haven't fixed it yet 🤭

snow swift Apr 24, 2026, 11:07 AM

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ionic summit Biggest problem I'm seeing is not being able to remove moon tag filters when ter...

fuck i checked and it doesn't work

plucky yew Apr 27, 2026, 7:56 AM

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are you still working on this?

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nevermind you've messaged just a few days ago

iron cosmos Apr 27, 2026, 5:19 PM

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Is it possible to add compatibility with this option from butteryfixes (the part about butler knife) and Detailed scan page?

snow swift Apr 27, 2026, 5:31 PM

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the first part (scrap on Gordion) already is there, I can add compat with butler knives, no problem

ionic dawn Apr 30, 2026, 11:38 AM

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filtering moons with dawnlib, lethal level loader, and terminal formatter does whatever this is and doesn't update the screen view.

snow swift Apr 30, 2026, 11:52 AM

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yeah, unfortunately I know about this issue, I'll have a fix for that soon

ionic dawn Apr 30, 2026, 11:53 AM

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thank you in advance for uncooking my save

urban trail May 1, 2026, 3:51 AM

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Hi, I'm having an issue after installing Terminal Formatter where getting on the terminal gives me this error. I do not experience any actual bug in game but wanted to see what could be causing this.

snow swift May 1, 2026, 4:42 PM

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I doubt it's just TF's issue

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Could you send me your whole log file?

urban trail May 1, 2026, 10:09 PM

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Sure! It's a bit of a mess because I was also having issues with the Poltergeist mod and OpenBodyCams. OpenBodyCams has since been removed, we couldn't get the errors to stop but also couldn't pinpoint the source...anyways, thanks for looking. 🙂

📎 LogOutput.log

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And I doubt it too, TerminalFormatter has always worked really well for me! But I thought I'd start here and maybe you could at least point me in the right direction. I appreciate your help, your mods are great!

snow swift May 2, 2026, 8:46 PM

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formal depot May 3, 2026, 10:34 AM

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There is a bug that simulate "moon_name" command from LLL doesn't work when terminal formater is installed

quartz salmon May 3, 2026, 10:04 PM

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do yall know why this mod wont show the hidden moons, i have the setting enabled and artifice and embrion are not there

kindred raptor May 3, 2026, 10:11 PM

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prob broken hehe idk i know the mod is a bit buggy

snow swift May 3, 2026, 11:01 PM

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this will be fixed soon

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🥺

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i do have a better way of checking hidden moons without hardcoding them and/or depending on LLL to check their status

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which is what breaks it right now

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honestly I don't really have an ETA for all the needed fixes, but I'm working on getting everything done

plucky yew May 4, 2026, 3:38 AM

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I know I don't speak for everyone but it's certainly healthy to hear but take as long as you need, your mod is great and it's definitely my favourite mod that changes the terminal in any way so I'd prefer it works rather then it's rushed

urban trail May 4, 2026, 6:55 AM

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plucky yew I know I don't speak for everyone but it's certainly healthy to hear but take as...

This speaks for me at least. 🙂 I really appreciate the modders and what they add to the game.

ornate forge May 19, 2026, 12:28 PM

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formal depot There is a bug that simulate "moon_name" command from LLL doesn't work when term...

Oh is THAT what its been?

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cuz in my ultra modded modpack

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something fucks with Terminal Formatter causing it to break the whole terminal

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StockingCrying

quartz salmon May 28, 2026, 10:00 PM

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snow swift this will be fixed soon

hows it going?

quartz salmon May 28, 2026, 10:44 PM

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@ionic dawn wdym by ❗

pastel sigil May 29, 2026, 1:22 AM

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A chance encounter has occurred

snow swift May 31, 2026, 7:08 PM

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quartz salmon hows it going?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/TerminalUtils/

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try if it breaks with this installed

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the way that TerminalFormatter is working right now needs a rework so large that it will be split into two mods entirely

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so try disabling Simulate node in TF and install the mod I've linked

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it should work seamlessly

solar bear May 31, 2026, 8:46 PM

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snow swift https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/TerminalUtils/

i just tried this in my modpack and the sim command worked just fine again

quartz salmon Jun 1, 2026, 1:55 AM

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@snow swift hidden moons still aren't showing. code: 019e80e4-3155-df2c-d1f9-e2cfc6c099e2

snow swift Jun 1, 2026, 4:48 AM

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quartz salmon <@231002429406183424> hidden moons still aren't showing. code: 019e80e4-3155-df2...

with terminal formatter?

quartz salmon Jun 1, 2026, 1:01 PM

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snow swift with terminal formatter?

Yes

snow swift Jun 1, 2026, 5:41 PM

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hmm

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I'll try to see what's up with that

snow swift Jun 1, 2026, 5:41 PM

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solar bear i just tried this in my modpack and the sim command worked just fine again

alrighty, nice

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thanks for testing!

quartz salmon Jun 1, 2026, 11:25 PM

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@snow swift now its putting them on top of moon list instead of sorting by price

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the hidden moons

rich hemlock Jun 2, 2026, 4:05 PM

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snow swift https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/TerminalUtils/

this breaks with sma11s moons

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causes paid moons to display as free

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and makes every moon display their number before the name

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I should clarify it only effects the moons in that mod

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it doesnt result in everything globally breaking just sma11s moons

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and terminal formatter doesnt have the same issue

snow swift Jun 2, 2026, 8:33 PM

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huh, interesting

#Terminal Formatter

IT WAS FUCKING LINQQQQQQQ

TerminalFormatter 0.2.33

0.2.34

TerminalFormatter 0.2.35